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boutons_deux
03-23-2016, 05:14 AM
Trump Loves the Poorly Educated—and They Love Him Right Back
Trump is taking advantage of his supporters using psychology rather than reason.
Journalists found that in the counties where Trump is most dominant, there are large numbers of white high school dropouts, and unemployed people no longer looking for work.
An alliance with the incoherent personality cult of Donald Trump’s candidacy correlates strongly with failure to obtain a high school diploma, and withdrawal from the labor force.
The counties also have a consistent history of voting for segregationists, and have an above average percentage of its residents living in mobile homes.
Many conservatives, and even some kindhearted liberals, might object to the conclusions one can draw from the data as stereotyping, but the empirical evidence leaves little choice. Donald Trump’s supporters confirm the stereotype against them.
The candidate himself even acknowledged the veracity of the caricature of his “movement” when he made the odd and condescending claim, “I love the poorly educated.”
His affection for illiteracy and ignorance did not extend to himself or any of his children, all of whom have degrees from some of the best universities in the world.
The low-educated, low-income counties of Trump’s America also receive large sums of public assistance.
Social Security fraud—seeking disability payments for minor injuries or conditions—is so rampant that attorneys have created a cottage industry out of offering to secure services for clients willing to pay a one-time fee for longtime subsidy.
It is all because of those damn Mexicans coming up from the border, the Chinese villains overseas, or the Muslim immigrant illegally occupying the Oval Office.
Never mind that illegal immigrants comprise a mere 3.5 percent of the population, and that most of them are concentrated in six states, a “big, beautiful wall” will cure all the ills of a high school dropout no longer applying for jobs.
The inconsistency and hypocrisy evident in the right-wing portrayal of poverty, and even in the softer version of the mainstream media’s differing depiction of poor people, is overwhelming.
The black, urban poor are lazy parasites who need to get it together, study longer and work harder, but the unemployed and uneducated white people empowering Trump’s vulgarity and bigotry are helpless victims of large economic conspiracies.
Personal responsibility, it would appear, is only applicable to the lives of black people.
Trump’s entire campaign is predicated on the phony populism of American recovery from third-world status.
His out-of-work white constituency is in desperate need of his artistic deal making, but the black protester is just lazy.
The failure of the recovery to penetrate the lives of high school dropouts who have stopped filling out job applications is not evidence that the “American dream is dead” or that “America is going to hell,”
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/trump-loves-poorly-educated-and-they-love-him-right-back
You Trump suckers are totally conned. He doesn't give a shit about you. It's all about him, his $Bs, other billionaires, and multi-national mega-corps evading taxes.
boutons_deux
03-23-2016, 10:07 AM
Donald Trump Threatens Ted Cruz’s Wife, Eliciting Angry Retort (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/23/donald-trump-threatens-ted-cruzs-wife-elicting-angry-retort/)
For a moment, it seemed Donald J. Trump thought he had gone too far. The moment passed.
Shortly after publishing, then deleting, a menacing Twitter post about the wife of Senator Ted Cruz, Mr. Trump quickly corrected himself late Tuesday — by adding more colorful language and punctuation to his threat.
“Lyin’ Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from G.Q. shoot in his ad,” Mr. Trump wrote in the slightly revised message (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/712457104515317764). “Be careful, Lyin’ Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!”
Mr. Trump appeared to be referring to a recent ad from the “super PAC” Make America Awesome (http://makeamericaawesome.com/#sthash.wpCOnc7b.dpbs), which showed Mr. Trump’s wife Melania, a former model, posing nude. The ad, which was targeted to Mormon voters, has no ties to Mr. Cruz’s campaign.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/23/donald-trump-threatens-ted-cruzs-wife-elicting-angry-retort/?partner=rss&emc=rss
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Trump said he may "spill the beans" on Ted's wife. He doesn't back down from anyone!
Trump said he may "spill the beans" on Ted's wife. He doesn't back down from anyone!
What kind of beans?
boutons_deux
03-23-2016, 12:43 PM
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton viewed unfavorably by majority - CBS/NYT poll
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-viewed-unfavorably-by-majority-cbsnyt-poll
And "unelectable" Bernie still beats Trump by more than Hillz beat Trump, as he has for months.
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton viewed unfavorably by majority - CBS/NYT poll
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-viewed-unfavorably-by-majority-cbsnyt-poll
And "unelectable" Bernie still beats Trump by more than Hillz beat Trump, as he has for months.
What does it say about the process and our country that the two most hated candidates are going to face off against each other?
Regardless, I think people will come around to liking Trump once he gets in office. He will be a different type of politician.
What does it say about the process and our country that the two most hated candidates are going to face off against each other?
Regardless, I think people will come around to liking Trump once he gets in office. He will be a different type of politician.
You sound pretty confident that Trump is gonna get in. I don't think so - a lot of people will be voting AGAINST him.
You sound pretty confident that Trump is gonna get in. I don't think so - a lot of people will be voting AGAINST him.
I'm very confident, and I fully understand people are voting against him -- I fully understand that. The delegate rich states left on the board favor him though. I think he will get the necessary delegates.
clambake
03-23-2016, 01:57 PM
anything would be better than cruz.
MultiTroll
03-23-2016, 02:08 PM
Would establishment Repugs who absolutely loath anything Obama and the Dems do or would would do, vote for Shillary just to spite Donald?
boutons_deux
03-23-2016, 03:55 PM
Would establishment Repugs who absolutely loath anything Obama and the Dems do or would would do, vote for Shillary just to spite Donald?
Repugs know they can't win the WH, even if they cause riots and get Bishop Gekko winning a contested convention. So they and the VRWC/ALEC/1% are concentrating on Congressional, state, local elections.
The travesty of Republican gerrymandering: Why Donald Trump’s nomination should — but probably won’t — cost the GOP its congressional majority
If they win the White House in 2016, Democrats have another problem: Republicans control both the House and the Senate. Indeed, House Republicans have their largest majority since 1928 – 247 seats to 188. The GOP’s historic influence in both chambers of Congress has rendered the country ungovernable.
When the Tea Party movement exploded in 2009, dozens of right-wing nihilists descended on Congress with one goal: obstructionism. As a result, the Republican death-grip on the nation’s legislative branch has been near-total.
“Democrats have for the past year discussed the GOP’s 30-seat majority as a long-term problem, solvable only by shrinking it over successive elections. But Trump’s remarkable rise in the GOP presidential race, and the backlash he has already provoked among the broader electorate, has suddenly raised the prospect of a large November wave against Trump and the Republicans who would share the ballot with him.”
The panic is spreading far and wide within the Republican Party.
So toxic is Trump that his presence at the top of the ticket puts scores of down-ballot races into play.
Flipping 30 seats is a tall task, but without Trump it would be utterly unthinkable – with him it’s a possibility.
“High numbers of independent voters, socially moderate voters, millennials and minority voters” will be up for grabs, said DCCC Chairman Ben Ray Lujan. And even with an extremist candidate like Ted Cruz (the most likely alternative to Trump) leading the ticket, the prospects are scarcely better.
Last Friday, the Cook Political Report downgraded (http://cookpolitical.com/story/9382) the GOP’s chances in 10 congressional districts.
Overall, Cook rates 31 Republican seats as at risk – that’s not nearly enough if the Democrats want to retake the House, but it’s far more sanguine than anyone expected a year ago.
Ultimately, though, the prospects of transforming the balance of power in Congress remain vanishingly slim, even against the backdrop of a Trump candidacy.
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/22/the_travesty_of_republican_gerrymandering_why_dona ld_trumps_nomination_should_but_probably_wont_cost _the_gop_its_congressional_majority/
iow, with Repugs controlling the House, and maybe the Senate, America remains fucked and unfuckable.
Would establishment Repugs who absolutely loath anything Obama and the Dems do or would would do, vote for Shillary just to spite Donald?
The republican establishment is quite content with Obama/Hillary and the status quo. They hate Trump because he's unpredictable, unknown and uncontrollable.
I'm very confident, and I fully understand people are voting against him -- I fully understand that. The delegate rich states left on the board favor him though. I think he will get the necessary delegates.
I think Trump'll win the nomination but not the general election. Maybe if Cruz is his running mate and can pull the conservative/establishment voters along.
MultiTroll
03-23-2016, 04:55 PM
Repugs know they can't win the WH, even if they cause riots and get Bishop Gekko winning a contested convention. So they and the VRWC/ALEC/1% are concentrating on Congressional, state, local elections.
So,
Would establishment Repugs who absolutely loath anything Obama and the Dems do or would would do, vote for Shillary just to spite Donald?
MultiTroll
03-23-2016, 04:55 PM
The republican establishment is quite content with Obama/Hillary and the status quo. They hate Trump because he's unpredictable, unknown and uncontrollable.
So,
Would establishment Repugs who absolutely loath anything Obama and the Dems do or would would do, vote for Shillary just to spite Donald?
So,
They'd probably either stay home or write in another name.
I think Trump'll win the nomination but not the general election. Maybe if Cruz is his running mate and can pull the conservative/establishment voters along.
:lmao
Two Trumps running. If you thought one Trump was bad.
Cruz is just as bad as Trump, if not worse. I dont dare think what a presidency would look like under a Trump/Cruz presidency.
Trump said he may "spill the beans" on Ted's wife. He doesn't back down from anyone!
Headline: Hispanics furious over Trumps racist "spill the beans" comment.
CosmicCowboy
03-23-2016, 09:32 PM
Would establishment Repugs who absolutely loath anything Obama and the Dems do or would would do, vote for Shillary just to spite Donald?
Nope
A few might stay home.
Trump gets 1237 most of them will hock and spit and vote for him just like a lot of us did with Romney.
hater
03-23-2016, 10:14 PM
Nope
A few might stay home.
Trump gets 1237 most of them will hock and spit and vote for him just like a lot of us did with Romney.
Get real. Romney was a clown and everyone knew it.
Please don't compare Romney to The Donald. He's brought millions of new voters to the GOp. I'm talking about millions and millions. And they adore Trump. Many would die for him. He's Basically James Earl Jones and the 16 election his Conan The Barbarian
pgardn
03-23-2016, 10:22 PM
Get real. Romney was a clown and everyone knew it.
Please don't compare Romney to The Donald. He's brought millions of new voters to the GOp. I'm talking about millions and millions. And they adore Trump. Many would die for him. He's Basically James Earl Jones and the 16 election his Conan The Barbarian
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One must remember this poster suckled Putin while Putin was lactating, so there's that.
Hater likes super heroes and manbreasteses.
Get real. Romney was a clown and everyone knew it.
Please don't compare Romney to The Donald. He's brought millions of new voters to the GOp. I'm talking about millions and millions. And they adore Trump. Many would die for him. He's Basically James Earl Jones and the 16 election his Conan The Barbarian
He needs a majority of the vote and he doesn't even have that. Guy is at 37% of 51+1 that he'd need.
If numbers dont convince you of the fact Donald is really just not liked by even the vast majority of the republicans then nothing will.
Later in the evening, the paper responded, "Actually his rise has been cleared by the large and fractured GOP field. Of the 20.35 million GOP primary votes cast so far, he has received 7.54 million, or a mere 37%. Despite the media desire to call him unstoppable, Mr. Trump is the weakest Republican front-runner since Gerald Ford in 1976."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/wall-street-journal-warns-trump-220958#ixzz43GTAXVfp*
He needs a majority of the vote and he doesn't even have that. Guy is at 37% of 51+1 that he'd need.
If numbers dont convince you of the fact Donald is really just not liked by even the vast majority of the republicans then nothing will.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/wall-street-journal-warns-trump-220958#ixzz43GTAXVfp*
Remember there were 17 of them. It's only now dwindled to 3 candidates - a lot of delegates went to Rubio, Carson, Bush, etc. What percentage of the delegates (not counting the super delegates) does Hillary have? And that's with only 2 candidates for the majority of the race.
For a good laugh:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/03/23/donald-trump-2016-chalkings-around-emory-university-led-to-abject-panic-n2138353
I especially like some of the comments, but seriously, this is really sad.
Mitch
03-24-2016, 12:27 AM
Just another day in the political circus :lol
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Just another day in the political circus :lol
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Melania is still stunning at almost 46. Not a very flattering pic of Mrs. Cruz - she kinda looks like Cruz. Still not half as bad as that one of Jeb's wife. Trump needs to refrain from this petty bickering. I can understand that he's miffed with her pic splashed all over fb but it wasn't Cruz's fault.
Mitch
03-24-2016, 01:11 AM
Melania is still stunning at almost 46. Not a very flattering pic of Mrs. Cruz - she kinda looks like Cruz. Still not half as bad as that one of Jeb's wife. Trump needs to refrain from this petty bickering. I can understand that he's miffed with her pic splashed all over fb but it wasn't Cruz's fault.
Trump plays the game he knows best, tbh. He's hoping for Cruz to bite since he knows he'll lose.
Nbadan
03-24-2016, 01:14 AM
Get real. Romney was a clown and everyone knew it.
Please don't compare Romney to The Donald. He's brought millions of new voters to the GOp. I'm talking about millions and millions. And they adore Trump. Many would die for him. He's Basically James Earl Jones and the 16 election his Conan The Barbarian
:lol
Melania is still stunning at almost 46. Not a very flattering pic of Mrs. Cruz - she kinda looks like Cruz. Still not half as bad as that one of Jeb's wife. Trump needs to refrain from this petty bickering. I can understand that he's miffed with her pic splashed all over fb but it wasn't Cruz's fault.
I'd like to see a pic of Melania that's not photoshopped. This one's touched.
Melania would still be prettier but not as glamourous, I bet.
spurraider21
03-24-2016, 02:16 AM
Just wanted to ask if people realize that trump's notion that "mexico can pay for the wall because of the trade deficit" makes no sense
ElNono
03-24-2016, 02:24 AM
Just wanted to ask if people realize that trump's notion that "mexico can pay for the wall because of the trade deficit" makes no sense
yes
spurraider21
03-24-2016, 02:30 AM
yes
do you think he's being intellectually dishonest or just dumb
boutons_deux
03-24-2016, 03:21 AM
Trump’s Speeches Are At A Middle-School Reading Level, Study Says
Donald Trump’s campaign speeches are written at a lower grade level than those of other leading presidential candidates, a new analysis from Carnegie Mellon University suggests. (https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2016/march/speechifying.html)
Using a readability model known as REAP, researchers ****** Schumacher and Maxine Eskenazi analyzed a selection of speeches (http://reap.cs.cmu.edu/Papers/Technical_report_16-001_Schumacher_Eskenazi.pdf) from Republican candidates Ted Cruz, Donald Trump and Marco Rubio (who has since dropped out of the race (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/marco-rubio-ends-2016-campaign_us_56143762e4b0b134ad66b478)) and Democratic candidates Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.
The sample size was small: They analyzed five of Cruz’s speeches, six speeches by Rubio and Sanders, seven by Clinton and eight by Trump.
REAP — which isn’t an acronym, according to the researchers — measures how often different words and grammatical structures appear within a given text, then compares them with texts that education experts have determined are at a typical reading level for a particular grade.
In terms of their vocabulary, researchers found that the speeches for Trump — who once bragged he had “the best words (http://www.redstate.com/saragonzales/2016/03/07/new-ad-shows-donald-trump-best-words-video/)“ — were, on average, at about a 7th-grade reading level. Cruz’s and Clinton’s speeches were at about an 8th-grade level, while Rubio’s speeches were just under a 10th-grade level and Sanders’ were just above it.
In terms of grammatical structure, nearly all of the candidates’ speeches hovered at around a 7th-grade level, with the exception of Trump, whose speeches are full of short, declarative sentences that placed them just under a 6th-grade level.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-speeches-reading-level_us_56e9899fe4b0b25c9184183f
.... which is about where the school achievement level of his low-wage, low-education, ignorant supporters is.
spurraider21
03-24-2016, 03:55 AM
^yeah this is like the 30th reprint of that same study, which by the way concluded that mike huckabee spoke at a higher grade level than krazy klinton and bernie
http://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_460w/Boston/2011-2020/2015/10/20/BostonGlobe.com/National/Images/21language_graphic_WEB-1547.jpg
boutons_deux
03-24-2016, 04:29 AM
All y'all redneck assholes' hero is stunted at about age 15
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeSI7TIW4AApKS0.jpg
https://twitter.com/Don_Vito_08/status/712845257289965568/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
boutons_deux
03-24-2016, 04:31 AM
Poll: Most Republicans mortified by their party's 2016 presidential race (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/23/1505010/-Poll-Most-Republicans-mortified-by-their-party-s-2016-presidential-race)
Fully 60 percent of GOP voters said they were "embarrassed" by their party's presidential campaign, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/us/politics/republican-democratic-voters-poll.html?_r=1).
They also largely see their party as "divided," with 88 percent of Republicans sharing that view while only 33 percent of Democrats do.
http://images.dailykos.com/images/227881/large/Screen_Shot_2016-03-22_at_1.36.02_PM.png?1458679732
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/24/1505010/-Poll-Most-Republicans-mortified-by-their-party-s-2016-presidential-race?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29
spurraider21
03-24-2016, 04:38 AM
not surprised the dems have a favorable opinion of krazy klinton
pgardn
03-24-2016, 08:00 AM
do you think he's being intellectually dishonest or just dumb
I apologize for answering with my thoughts.
He is playing to a base who wish to hear extreme views.
"America is falling apart, we will just blow them up, it's simple, we will just refuse... "
on and on...
Just another day in the political circus :lol
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Thank you for standing up for yourself, Mr. Trump!
#LyingTed #NeverCruz
Mitch
03-24-2016, 10:18 AM
Cruz upon nomination: you knew damn well i was a snake before you let me in :lol
Thank you for standing up for yourself, Mr. Trump!
#LyingTed #NeverCruz
boutons_deux
03-24-2016, 10:45 AM
Why Republicans now want GOP to unite behind Trump
While the party leadership may still be reluctant to back Trump (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Decoder/2016/0323/Jeb-Bush-backs-Ted-Cruz-what-that-says-about-GOP-establishment), a growing percentage of voters aren't.
Trump had garnered the support of a majority of Republican primary voters nationwide. That poll showed a jump from 44 percent in their Feb. 24-27 poll to 53 percent.
And a March 18 Rasmussen Reports weekly survey (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_change) finds that 87 percent of likely Republican voters nationwide now say Trump is likely to win the GOP nomination – up from 60 percent the first week of February.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/0323/Why-Republicans-now-want-GOP-to-unite-behind-Trump-video
boutons_deux
03-24-2016, 11:47 AM
Most racists back Donald Trump: New poll suggests racial resentment above all is driving Trump’s rise
Trump has easily exploited identity politics, seducing white voters who project their anger against minorities
The driving force of Trump’s campaign, in many ways it’s raison d’etre, is racial and cultural resentment. Indeed, support for Trump is positively correlated (https://twitter.com/ValisJason/status/706285257121624064) with racial resentment, according to a recent American National Election Study (ANES). The disaffected whites clamoring for a big wall on the border at his rallies are a reminder of what’s lurking beneath the nationalist fervor. If a luxurious wall on the southern border was of any practical value, we’d be having a different conversation. But, as the inimitable John Oliver (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/21/john-oliver-slams-donald-trumps-u-s-mexico-border-wall-for-18-brutal-minutes/)pointed out, Trump’s wall is not only useless – it’s obscenely expensive and counterproductive.
The wall is a symbolic gesture, a metaphorical middle finger to the nebulous “other.” It won’t bring back any jobs; it won’t resuscitate the manufacturing sector; and it won’t make America any whiter or safer than it already is. But for the disillusioned Trump voter, it’s a palliative nevertheless.
As prominent Republicans like Paul Ryan (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/03/23/paul-ryan-tries-to-pivot-from-disheartened-state-of-politics/?tid=a_inl) scramble to stop Trump, decrying the tone and divisiveness of his campaign, a new Washington Post/ABC News poll (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/03/23/why-trump-is-winning-his-supporters-think-america-is-screwing-over-whites/)confirms that Trump is succeeding precisely because of his tone and divisiveness.
Republican voters were asked a revealing question: “Which of these do you think is a bigger problem in this country – blacks and Hispanics losing out because of preferences for whites, or whites losing out because of preferences for blacks and Hispanics?”
Whether you think that’s a good question or not is beside the point. What’s interesting is the responses and how they matched up with support for the various Republican candidates.
To begin with, a plurality of Republican respondents (45-19) said that the bigger problem is whites losing out, which is what you’d expect from a party that embraced the “Southern Strategy” (http://www.thenation.com/article/why-todays-gop-crackup-is-the-final-unraveling-of-nixons-southern-strategy/) forty years ago.
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/24/most_racists_back_donald_trump_new_poll_suggests_r acial_resentment_above_all_is_driving_trumps_rise/
The VRWC/1%/Repug propaganda is that "whites are losing out" because of the the stinky, criminal, lazy knitters, and all those brown wetbacks.
Incredibly brilliant LIE.
Whites, and everybody, is losing out due to VRWC/1%/BigCorp screwing EVERYBODY with high prices for shitty products (TV, phone, Internet, medical insurance,care), extractive fees, predatory lending, usurious lending rates, War on Employees, War on Women, War on Patients, War on all the 99%, etc, etc.
but but but, all the problems for whites are due to blacks and browns.
boutons_deux
03-24-2016, 11:50 AM
Leading White Nationalists Credit Trump With Empowering The 'Pro-White' Movement
It’s no secret that Donald Trump has become the candidate of choice of white nationalists (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-fearful-and-the-frustrated), including Jared Taylor, a leading figure in the white nationalist movement, who recorded a robocall (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/12/why-this-leading-white-nationalist-is-urging-iowa-voters-to-back-donald-trump/)in favor of Trump before the Iowa caucuses.
That image was only reinforced earlier this month when Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., appeared (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/03/listen-donald-trump-jr-and-pro-confederate-whit/208993) on the notorious white nationalist radio program “The Political Cesspool.”
On Saturday, Taylor joined (http://www.libertyroundtable.com/tpc/auto-draft-203/) “Political Cesspool” host James Edwards on his program, where the two expressed optimism about the future of what Edwards called the “pro-white” movement, something that they attributed in part to Trump’s candidacy.
Edwards gushed about an “awakening happening within the spirit of our people” that was beyond his “wildest dreams” when he started his program.
Taylor said that he too was “hugely encouraged” by the growth of the movement, particularly among “young people” who have “grown up with it.” He described it as “a real sea change.”
“The most visible manifestation of this is the support for Donald Trump,” Taylor added. “Donald Trump is an opportunity for ordinary Americans to say they are fed up.
And one of the big things they’re fed up about is the racial changes going on in the United States and they think Donald Trump might actually do something about it.”
“Even if he’s dog whistling about some of our issues,” Edwards responded, “he gives the people cover to come out and be more apparent in their beliefs, and I think that’s certainly a good thing.”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/leading-white-nationalists-credit-trump-empowering-pro-white-movement
Quetzal-X
03-24-2016, 12:27 PM
"And one of the big things they’re fed up about is the racial changes going on in the United States and they think Donald Trump might actually do something about it.”
:lol Tough shit racists honkeys
:lol You can always self-deport/secede back to your caves
Trill Clinton
03-24-2016, 12:34 PM
"And one of the big things they’re fed up about is the racial changes going on in the United States and they think Donald Trump might actually do something about it.”
:lol Tough shit racists honkeys
:lol You can always self-deport/secede back to your caves
thats riiiight!!!
Quetzal-X
03-24-2016, 12:50 PM
Bring it out!
spurraider21
03-24-2016, 01:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10bBNdqI7uE
Splits
03-24-2016, 02:16 PM
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SnakeBoy
03-24-2016, 05:53 PM
Trump plays the game he knows best, tbh. He's hoping for Cruz to bite since he knows he'll lose.
This. I was actually thinking this earlier. Trump has been baiting Cruz to get in the mud with him and Cruz is starting to oblige. Didn't work out too well for lil Marco.
Cruz was already taking heat for trying to out Trump Trump with his surveillance of american muslims schtick and he looked silly today trying to play tough guy with Trump.
Mitch
03-24-2016, 06:36 PM
This. I was actually thinking this earlier. Trump has been baiting Cruz to get in the mud with him and Cruz is starting to oblige. Didn't work out too well for lil Marco.
Cruz was already taking heat for trying to out Trump Trump with his surveillance of american muslims schtick and he looked silly today trying to play tough guy with Trump.
Hilary tried playing his game too, pretty stupid move tbh. Trump is the schoolyard bully, can't play dirty with him :lol
CosmicCowboy
03-24-2016, 06:48 PM
Just wanted to ask if people realize that trump's notion that "mexico can pay for the wall because of the trade deficit" makes no sense
It could be done but he would have to disavow NAFTA. A 5% tariff would pay for the wall. I'm not advocating it but don't say it couldn't be done.
TheSanityAnnex
03-24-2016, 06:54 PM
Hilary tried playing his game too, pretty stupid move tbh. Trump is the schoolyard bully, can't play dirty with him :lol
Hillary vs Donald debate will be epic. Bitch will lose her shit and blow up, can't wait
baseline bum
03-24-2016, 06:57 PM
Most racists back Donald Trump: New poll suggests racial resentment above all is driving Trump’s rise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDbHwz6JGzo
Mitch
03-24-2016, 07:00 PM
Most racists back republican candidates, most republicans back Trump
Go figure
baseline bum
03-24-2016, 07:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10bBNdqI7uE
Fivethirtyeight posted that video on March 15th. :lol
Also this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hcpedQmOyo
boutons_deux
03-24-2016, 08:18 PM
Most racists back republican candidates, most republicans back Trump
Go figure
Repugs are the party of racists, have been for 50+ years
Mitch
03-24-2016, 08:22 PM
Repugs are the party of racists, have been for 50+ years
I can't take a person seriously when they say "repug" every post they make, tbh. I don't even hear that word in California :lol
ChumpDumper
03-24-2016, 08:38 PM
I can't take a person seriously when they say "repug" every post they make, tbh. I don't even hear that word in California :lolAgreed.
Makes them sound cute.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/1b/58/90/1b5890210c75969eae5f287b1f684939.jpg
DarrinS
03-24-2016, 08:53 PM
No Trump fan here, but people are losing their fucking minds with all this KKK and Nazi shit.
DarrinS
03-24-2016, 08:54 PM
Dude is probably the best troll ever, tbh. Totally manipulating the media.
MultiTroll
03-24-2016, 08:58 PM
Hillary vs Donald debate will be epic. Bitch will lose her shit and blow up, can't wait
Not sure. Kruz had Donald ready to lose it in the final debate.
But ya Shillary won't know how to go on the offensive.
But ya Shillary won't know how to go on the offensive.
Must be why she's taking so many shots at him.
She's not going to get to his level of bickering. All she has to do is discuss policies and actual issues, something Trump has yet to do on an actual debate.
djohn2oo8
03-24-2016, 09:25 PM
Trump is thin skinned. Ya dont think the Clintons can play dirty? :lol
boutons_deux
03-24-2016, 09:26 PM
Ridiculous that a country is depending on silly, often mostly dishonest debates to choose candidate, or worse, a President.
Trump is thin skinned. Ya dont think the Clintons can play dirty? :lol
Dude is shitless afraid of harmless Megyn Kelly. Now wait until Hillary digs in. :lol
See, this what I dont get about her detractors. To them Hillary is this evil genious behind close doors but somehow someone like Trump would get the better of her? A guy who has women issues is going to take on another woman who is suppossed to be this voldermort type villian. :lol I dont that line of thinking.
angrydude
03-24-2016, 09:40 PM
Dude is shitless afraid of harmless Megyn Kelly. Now wait until Hillary digs in. :lol
See, this what I dont get about her detractors. To them Hillary is this evil genious behind close doors but somehow someone like Trump would get the better of her? A guy who has women issues is going to take on another woman who is suppossed to be this voldermort type villian. :lol I dont that line of thinking.
Hillary is a rat. She operates in the shadow and hides when the light is shined on her. She has survived all her scandals mainly by avoiding confrontation and hiding the evidence.
Hillary is a rat. She operates in the shadow and hides when the light is shined on her. She has survived all her scandals mainly by avoiding confrontation and hiding the evidence.
And Trump hasn't?
They are on par as far as scummy goes. Both are corrupt to the hilt.
boutons_deux
03-24-2016, 09:54 PM
Trump is as repugnant as any Repug politician or Repug voter.
after the 2012 massacre, Repugs had a reachout to groups that didn't vote Bishop Gekko.
reach out? :lol
Trump has deeply alienated women, blacks, Hispanics, (small dick) Asians, the under-35s, LGBT, while turning the Repug decades-long dog-whistling into explicit pandering to Repug racists, xenophobes, white supremacists, nativists, paranoid ignoramuses, and other American scum.
No Trump fan here, but people are losing their fucking minds with all this KKK and Nazi shit.
Huge Trump fan here, and I couldn't agree more with you -- that's a first!
angrydude
03-25-2016, 03:20 AM
Trump is as repugnant as any Repug politician or Repug voter.
after the 2012 massacre, Repugs had a reachout to groups that didn't vote Bishop Gekko.
reach out? :lol
Trump has deeply alienated women, blacks, Hispanics, (small dick) Asians, the under-35s, LGBT, while turning the Repug decades-long dog-whistling into explicit pandering to Repug racists, xenophobes, white supremacists, nativists, paranoid ignoramuses, and other American scum.
That's not a very nice way to describe blue collar workers (formerly the democratic base). You know, the exact crowd he is pandering to.
Did you all see Cruz's response? Trump can't back down after that. If he does, then it will make Cruz look strong. Trump needs to respond with another attack -- preferably in the form a retweet, so that he just say those weren't his words like when he called Cruz a pussy at a rally and said he was just repeating what someone else said.
By the way, Trump may be a "sniveling coward" according to Cruz, but Cruz is a man of his word and so he will support Trump once Trump gets the nomination. :lol
DeadlyDynasty
03-25-2016, 04:35 AM
boutons might be the first poster I ever put on ignore...just unrepentant spamming of irrelevant articles/polls (that nobody ever reads) you have to wade through on every page. Can't imagine how the PoFo regulars (on both sides) put up with it on a daily basis. He's Avante on the rag
boutons_deux
03-25-2016, 10:52 AM
white supremacist, misogynist terrorist issuing a fatwa to murder Cruz' wife
Neo-Nazi Trump supporter calls for execution of Ted Cruz’s ‘sl*t wife’ over links to ‘Jew banksters’
http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Andrew_Anglin-800x430.jpg
Writing on The Daily Stormer (http://www.dailystormer.com/trump-threatens-to-call-out-rafael-cruz-slut-wife/), founder Andrew Anglin used the dispute over attacks on the wives of both of the leading GOP presidential candidate’s wives to pile on Heidi Cruz, a former Goldman Sachs executive.
“Tedman Cruise Ship recently published sexy photos of Donald Trump’s beautiful Slav wife in an ad for the apparent purpose of indicating Trump is a badman for marrying a model who posed for sexy photos,” Anglin wrote, “Cruzman responded by lying and saying he had nothing to do with the ad, then saying it would be wrong to expose his slut wife as a shill for international Jew banksters.”
“Surely, he is not responsible for the actions of his own wife in this great feminist experimental society, but if my wife was playing a lead role in a Jewish conspiracy to dissolve the border with Mexico, I would file for divorce. Wouldn’t you?” he continued. “Ted Cruz’ wife should be in prison or execute [sic] for high treason. Donald Trump’s wife should be on the cover of more magazines.”
According to the Southern Poverty Law Center (https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/03/24/andrew-anglin-daily-stormer-says-heidi-cruz-should-be-executed) — which called attention to the Daily Stormer post — Anglin could be subject to arrest or imprisonment under 18 U.S. Code § 1879, which reads, “whoever knowingly and willfully threatens to kill, kidnap, or inflict bodily harm upon a major candidate for the office of President or Vice President, or a member of the immediate family of such candidate shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.”
Anglin hasn’t relented in his attacks on Ted and Heidi Cruz, writing on Friday (http://www.dailystormer.com/mutated-cuban-male-feminist-ted-cruz-tells-donald-to-leave-ugly-whore-wife-the-hell-alone/): “Mutated Cuban Male Feminist Ted Cruz Tells Donald to Leave Ugly Whore Wife ‘The Hell Alone.'”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/neo-nazi-trump-supporter-calls-for-execution-of-ted-cruzs-slt-wife-over-links-to-jew-banksters/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Splits
03-25-2016, 11:35 AM
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Trill Clinton
03-25-2016, 11:54 AM
is anybody else seeing a lot of "i'm not a trump fan, but...." or "i'm not a trump supporter, but..." posts on their social media or message boards?
is anybody else seeing a lot of "i'm not a trump fan, but...." or "i'm not a trump supporter, but..." posts on their social media or message boards?
One wonders if he's hated by so many women, hispanics, blacks, etc who exactly is voting for him in the primaries - didn't know there were so many angry, white republican males.
Trill Clinton
03-25-2016, 11:56 AM
where is m>s with the jew memes for trump? dude was slobbin' some jew knob, no homo, at the aipac
DarrinS
03-25-2016, 11:58 AM
where is m>s with the jew memes for trump? dude was slobbin' some jew knob, no homo, at the aipac
lol
boutons_deux
03-25-2016, 11:59 AM
One wonders if he's hated by so many women, hispanics, blacks, etc who exactly is voting for him in the primaries - didn't know there were so many angry, white republican males.
Trump is leading percentages vs other Repug asholes, but his absolute primary voting numbers are smaller than Hillary's, and not so different from Bernie's.
white, uneducated, male, dickless losers are Trump's hard core base.
Trill Clinton
03-25-2016, 12:02 PM
One wonders if he's hated by so many women, hispanics, blacks, etc who exactly is voting for him in the primaries - didn't know there were so many angry, white republican males.
white republican males are always angry. i just wish people stop being afraid to come out and say they like him. a lot of my republican peers claim to be supporting cruz but they always hit me with the "i don't like trump, but..." whenever we get to speaking on trump.
tlongII
03-25-2016, 12:15 PM
I like Trump and I'm not afraid to say it.
spurraider21
03-25-2016, 12:18 PM
white republican males are always angry. i just wish people stop being afraid to come out and say they like him. a lot of my republican peers claim to be supporting cruz but they always hit me with the "i don't like trump, but..." whenever we get to speaking on trump.
:lol DarrinS
Trill Clinton
03-25-2016, 12:28 PM
I like Trump and I'm not afraid to say it.
respect
I like Trump and I'm not afraid to say it.
I love him.
Th'Pusher
03-25-2016, 01:00 PM
:lol DarrinSCosmicCowgirl too.
DarrinS
03-25-2016, 01:12 PM
:lol DarrinS
Do a forum search. I've said plenty of negative things about that orange retard. Doesn't mean I think he's the next coming of Hitler. :lol
is anybody else seeing a lot of "i'm not a trump fan, but...." or "i'm not a trump supporter, but..." posts on their social media or message boards?
I get a lot of those.
They always exposed themselves in the process saying stupid shit like, I'm a Sanders guy, Democrat, this or that but I'm curious about Trump.. :lmao
spurraider21
03-25-2016, 01:19 PM
Do a forum search. I've said plenty of negative things about that orange retard. Doesn't mean I think he's the next coming of Hitler. :lol
i know you have, but you do have a lot of "i dont like trump, but" moments too :lol
DarrinS
03-25-2016, 01:20 PM
i know you have, but you do have a lot of "i dont like trump, but" moments too :lol
I have because I think the Bernie Sandernistas have lost their collective minds with the Nazi comparisons.
DarrinS
03-25-2016, 01:21 PM
white republican males are always angry. i just wish people stop being afraid to come out and say they like him. a lot of my republican peers claim to be supporting cruz but they always hit me with the "i don't like trump, but..." whenever we get to speaking on trump.
:lol
white republican males are always angry. i just wish people stop being afraid to come out and say they like him. a lot of my republican peers claim to be supporting cruz but they always hit me with the "i don't like trump, but..." whenever we get to speaking on trump.
It's peer pressure. My ds ducked out of declaring he was a Trump fan when his class had a mock election but voted Trump - he's surrounded by Rubio fans. IMO, Trump is the only one who can shake up things in Washington (as seen by the all-out effort to StopTrump) as he's not beholden to any donor.
I'll cite another bow down to political correctness - Djokovic (#1 male player in the world) walked back his stated opinion that the male tennis players should seek the most money that they could get and that the women's tour should do the same. Even though, IMO, he is correct - the men's game is more popular, draws more, etc., any man who opines so is gonna be labelled sexist and it will affect his endorsements. No less than Chris Evert and Billie Jean King sat him down and informed him of how things are and will remain. IMO, equal pay for equal work - therefore, best of 5 for women - now who wants to see them completely gassed in a 4th or 5th set? One of the funniest things I read of a female fan was - the women are working JUST as hard as the men so they should earn the same (regardless that they're not working as long or drawing as many fans).
Aztecfan03
03-25-2016, 06:07 PM
Once Hillary is the nominee, republicans will flock back to WHOEVER GOP nominee is unless Trump goes independent. Let's not kid ourselves here.
Nope sorry. I will not flock to a democrat even if they are running as a republican.
Aztecfan03
03-25-2016, 06:09 PM
Their hate for Hillary will drive them to the polls. They hate Hillary and Trump as much as Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini. Don't underestimate that.
fify
Trill Clinton
03-25-2016, 06:40 PM
:lol
What's so funny about that?
Nope sorry. I will not flock to a democrat even if they are running as a republican.
You'd rather Hillary pick SC justices instead of Trump? I think Trump's gonna be listening to conservatives (like Carson, Newt, Giuliani) on non-business stuff.
You'd rather Hillary pick SC justices instead of Trump? I think Trump's gonna be listening to conservatives (like Carson, Newt, Giuliani) on non-business stuff.
The trifecta of fail. :lol
baseline bum
03-26-2016, 12:53 AM
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-will-have-a-hard-time-turning-blue-states-red-in-november/
2016 ELECTION 8:11 AM MAR 25, 2016
Trump Will Have A Hard Time Turning Blue States Red In November
By NATE SILVER
https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/ap_498117236323.jpg?w=575
Donald Trump during a campaign event Monday at the Old Post Office Pavilion in Washington. ALEX BRANDON / AP
Donald Trump’s performance in primaries and caucuses has created some unusual geographic patterns. What sort of candidate dominates in both Alabama (where Trump won 43 percent of the vote on Super Tuesday) and Massachusetts (where he got 49 percent)? Why was Trump so strong in Hawaii — and so weak in Kansas? The answers to these questions are complicated. Trump attracts voters for multiple reasons: Economic anxiety and racial resentment are important factors in his success, but hardly the only ones.
Let me propose One Simple Trick that makes the geographic patterns at least a bit clearer: Trump’s strengths and weaknesses are easier to understand if you consider how many Democrats and Republicans turned out in each primary. Republican voters are a small minority of the overall electorate in states like Massachusetts and Hawaii, so their support for Trump isn’t a good indication of how those states might behave in November.
Take Massachusetts, for example. Trump’s 49 percent — his highest fraction in any state to date — was on light turnout: Only about 630,000 voters participated in the Republican primary, compared with 1.2 million for the Democratic one. Thus, Trump won only about 17 percent of the overall vote among Bay Staters who turned out that day.
By contrast, while Trump’s performance in Ohio might seem poor at first glance — he got 36 percent of the vote and lost to John Kasich — it’s better once you consider that Republicans turned out substantially more voters than Democrats. As a share of the combined Democratic and Republican primary turnout, Trump got 22 percent of the vote in Ohio — a fair bit better than he did in Massachusetts.
Here are those figures for all states where both Democrats and Republicans have voted so far.1
TRUMP’S SHARE OF PRIMARY/CAUCUS VOTE
STATE REPUBLICAN DEMOCRATIC+REPUBLICAN
Mississippi 47.3% 30.6%
Alabama 43.4 29.6
Tennessee 38.9 27.1
Arizona 47.1 26.6
Florida 45.7 26.5
Missouri 40.9 24.5
Georgia 38.8 24.4
Ohio 35.6 22.4
South Carolina 33.0 21.9
Nevada 45.9 21.7
Arkansas 32.8 21.3
Louisiana 41.4 20.4
North Carolina 40.2 20.2
Virginia 34.7 19.7
Michigan 36.5 19.2
New Hampshire 35.2 18.7
Texas 26.7 17.8
Massachusetts 49.3 17.0
Oklahoma 28.3 16.4
Illinois 38.8 16.1
Kansas 23.3 15.2
Iowa 24.3 13.9
Vermont 32.7 10.2
Utah 14.0 9.8
Maine 32.6 9.4
Minnesota 21.3 7.6
United States 37.1 21.3
SOURCE: THE GREEN PAPERS, UNITED STATES ELECTIONS PROJECT
This calculation makes it clearer that Trump’s strengths are mostly in the South. Of Trump’s top seven states so far by his share of the combined primary or caucus vote, five or six are in the South, depending on how you classify Missouri.
New England looks like a poor region for Trump, by contrast. His share of the combined primary or caucus vote was slightly below his national average in Massachusetts and New Hampshire and well behind it in Vermont and Maine.
The industrial Midwest has been about average for Trump. The Ohio result, as I mentioned, is better for Trump once you consider the very high Republican turnout there (and that he lost to the state’s governor). But his performances in Michigan and Illinois rate as middling by this metric even though Trump won both states. The Great Plains states have been a poor region for Trump, while the West has been a mixed bag. Trump’s big win in Nevada is less impressive once you consider that Democratic turnout outpaced GOP turnout. But his results from Arizona hold up well.
This method leaves a lot of things to be desired. If you were being more exacting, you’d want to adjust for whether each party held an open or closed primary in each state, how many opponents Trump faced at various stages of the race, and other factors.
But as the calendar turns toward bluer states, be wary of making extrapolations from Trump’s performance in the primaries to how he might perform in the general election. Overall, Trump is deeply unpopular with general election voters and will have a lot of work to do to repair his image should he become the Republican nominee. The race can and will change, and Hillary Clinton shouldn’t take a lot for granted. But Trump is more likely to “transform the electoral map” by turning red states blue, rather than the other way around.
cd021
03-26-2016, 09:43 AM
You'd rather Hillary pick SC justices instead of Trump? I think Trump's gonna be listening to conservatives (like Carson, Newt, Giuliani) on non-business stuff.
Is that supposed to be a selling point?:lol
Aztecfan03
03-27-2016, 12:26 AM
You'd rather Hillary pick SC justices instead of Trump? I think Trump's gonna be listening to conservatives (like Carson, Newt, Giuliani) on non-business stuff.
There would likely be little difference between their choices.
djohn2oo8
03-27-2016, 03:45 PM
Cruz closing in on Trump in California
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/ted-cruz-closing-donald-trump-202226557.html
In Trump's worldview, America comes first and everybody else pays
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/27/us/politics/donald-trump-foreign-policy.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0
Mitch
03-27-2016, 04:14 PM
Cruz closing in on Trump in California
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/ted-cruz-closing-donald-trump-202226557.html
Cruz needs to worry about NY, tbh. If Trump takes all 95 then Cruz is pretty much out of the race, there's no real clear path after that.
Pelicans78
03-27-2016, 04:53 PM
Cruz needs to worry about NY, tbh. If Trump takes all 95 then Cruz is pretty much out of the race, there's no real clear path after that.
Thats not true at all. New York won't decide anything. Trump's gonna win New York regardless but still needs a lot more delegates to win the majority.
djohn2oo8
03-27-2016, 05:41 PM
Cruz needs to worry about NY, tbh. If Trump takes all 95 then Cruz is pretty much out of the race, there's no real clear path after that.
Cruz winning Wisconsin could hinder Trump, since its winner take all right? Trump is going to win NY regardless. Losing California though, or splitting it with Cruz would hurt him.
djohn2oo8
03-27-2016, 05:41 PM
At this point, its all about a contested convention for Cruz and Kasich.
djohn2oo8
03-27-2016, 05:42 PM
Thats not true at all. New York won't decide anything. Trump's gonna win New York regardless but still needs a lot more delegates to win the majority.
Plus you have anti trump people working to switch his delegates from South Carolina over to another candidate.
InRareForm
03-27-2016, 05:54 PM
It looks like any scenario that happens with trump getting elected or there being a brokered convention is going to be entertaining no matter what.
Mitch
03-27-2016, 07:43 PM
Cruz winning Wisconsin could hinder Trump, since its winner take all right? Trump is going to win NY regardless. Losing California though, or splitting it with Cruz would hurt him.
Nah, Wisconsin is winner take most - 15 for winner + winner of each district takes the district's delegates. California is by district, each district (rural and urban) has the same delegates which should keep it close since Cruz does well in rural areas. If Trump takes 50+1 he gets 95 delegates and Cruz needs 95 delegates more to win - he already needs like 80% of the remainder so that's a huge blow. Considering that the April 26 super tuesday consists of the smaller east coast states and new england that Trump and Kasich do well in, Cruz is well out of play after floundering then.
The big question will be this: Does Cruz make good on his rhetoric that he is against a brokered convention and drop out when his path to nomination is blocked? I think he will stay in, but if he does stay in it might hurt him a lot.
Thats not true at all. New York won't decide anything. Trump's gonna win New York regardless but still needs a lot more delegates to win the majority.
New York has 95 delegates who can go to Trump with the 50+1 rule, winning that would allow him to probably break 1100 when it is all said and done. Kasich + Cruz wouldn't amount to that together, I believe, and Trump will probably concede a VP spot at most for nomination in that scenario.
boutons_deux
03-27-2016, 07:44 PM
Donald Trump’s Reign of Bullsh*t: He’s Not Lying to Us, He’s Just Completely Full of It
There's a difference between a liar and a bullshitter -- and it helps explain the essence of Donald Trump
Donald Trump’s Reign of Bullsh*t: He’s Not Lying to Us, He’s Just Completely Full of It
There's a difference between a liar and a bullshitter -- and it helps explain the essence of Donald Trump
philosopher Harry Frankfurt defines bullshit as a form of communication aimed to obscure the matter of facts being discussed by using the words that are neither necessarily true nor false.
This definition hinges on a crucial distinction between a liar and a bullshitter.
Unlike the liar, who hides things about himself in an attempt to lead us away from a correct apprehension of reality, the bullshitter hides that “the truth-values of his statements are of no central interest to him.”
In other words, bullshitter doesn’t care about what the truth is. He just talks as it suits his purposes.
It is hard not to notice the similarity between what Frankfurt describes in his essay and the current discourse of Donald Trump.
As PolitiFact reports (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/), most of Trump’s campaign statements have been blatantly false, mostly false or partially true.
Only 2 percent of his statements are described as true.
Although one is tempted to call him a liar, which many have done (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/11/23/donald-trump-is-constantly-lying/), he is not a liar but a bullshitter.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/donald-trumps-reign-bullsht-hes-not-lying-us-hes-just-completely-full-it
And Trump supporters either:
1) love to be bullshitted
or, more probably
2) are to stupid recognize bullshit when stuffed down their throats.
CosmicCowboy
03-27-2016, 07:47 PM
Well, Bookaki, Bernie knows there isn't a chance in hell of any of his stated policies being implemented. Sounds like he is a bullshitter too.
boutons_deux
03-27-2016, 07:49 PM
Well, Bookaki, Bernie knows there isn't a chance in hell of any of his stated policies being implemented. Sounds like he is a bullshitter too.
False equivalence, aka, CC B U L L S H I T
Bernie knows his stuff, proposes real policies to reverse the American shitstorm, not his fault Your Beloved Strict Obstructionist Repugs will keep America fucked up and in decline.
CosmicCowboy
03-27-2016, 09:24 PM
False equivalence, aka, CC B U L L S H I T
Bernie knows his stuff, proposes real policies to reverse the American shitstorm, not his fault Your Beloved Strict Obstructionist Repugs will keep America fucked up and in decline.
bullshit
check
Dirk Oneanddoneski
03-27-2016, 09:55 PM
where is m>s with the jew memes for trump? dude was slobbin' some jew knob, no homo, at the aipac
http://i.imgur.com/lLFbpCO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PtIL3D0.jpg
boutons_deux
03-28-2016, 04:36 AM
Wilkerson on Trump and lots of other stuff
https://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTurks/videos/vb.210277954204/10153515294709205/?type=2&theater
Pelicans78
03-28-2016, 07:22 AM
Trump's knowledge on foreign issues is pathetic. He has no idea what to say or what to think to say. Whenever he's asked detailed questions, he routinely changes the subject.
Trump's knowledge on foreign issues is pathetic. He has no idea what to say or what to think to say. Whenever he's asked detailed questions, he routinely changes the subject.
I have yet to hear the man even speak policy. Other than naming names.
boutons_deux
03-28-2016, 08:03 AM
bullshit
check
Bernie's "issues" on his website will ALL be blocked by Repugs, how is that his fault?
This guy's a mega hit with the ladies. New unfavorable ratings has him at a 73% with women. :lol
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/25/1506168/-73-percent-of-women-voters-have-an-unfavorable-view-of-Donald-Trump
All I know is the allegations against Ted Cruz that were reported by the National Enquirer are really scandalous. I hope they're not true. I really do.
Mitch
03-28-2016, 01:53 PM
All I know is the allegations against Ted Cruz that were reported by the National Enquirer are really scandalous. I hope they're not true. I really do.
Same, tbh. Poor women if true... might need to send the guy to gitmo for the PTSD he would have caused.
Dirk Oneanddoneski
03-28-2016, 09:28 PM
Libcucks taped themselves together to protest Trump in the lobby of a holiday inn and are getting arrested right now live on stream
http://ustream.tv/channel/DckuG22M7wE
Mitch
03-28-2016, 09:36 PM
Libcucks taped themselves together to protest Trump in the lobby of a holiday inn and are getting arrested right now live on stream
http://ustream.tv/channel/DckuG22M7wE
To think democrats were the wartime leaders at one point. People their age were storming the beaches and getting their brains splattered on the sand, now they just sit down and wait to be taken away.
Nbadan
03-29-2016, 12:01 AM
onald Trump tombstone mysteriously appears in Central Park
https://scontent-lax3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/12501858_1002254793161086_1016703883_n.jpg
Photos surfaced on Instagram Sunday of a tombstone for Donald Trump in Central Park.
Read more: http://abc7ny.com/news/donald-trump-tombstone-mysteriously-appears-in-central-park/1265092/
boutons_deux
03-29-2016, 06:26 AM
To think democrats were the wartime leaders at one point. People their age were storming the beaches and getting their brains splattered on the sand, now they just sit down and wait to be taken away.
To think .... :lol a possibility if all y'all rightwingnuts didn't have shit for brains.
Mitch
03-29-2016, 10:21 AM
Technically left-moderate, but I don't expect logic from a non-content poster such as yourself.
To think .... :lol a possibility if all y'all rightwingnuts didn't have shit for brains.
boutons_deux
03-29-2016, 11:06 AM
Technically left-moderate, but I don't expect logic from a non-content poster such as yourself.
If you could think, you wouldn't compare people, even Dems, dying war with Dems protesting the Trump asshole and all the bottom-feeding shit he represents.
hater
03-29-2016, 11:10 AM
Here we go. Arresting campaign manager and public death threats.
The establishment trying to disrupt Trump with force now. Called it
hater
03-29-2016, 11:12 AM
Lets take a step back and analize our situation.
Trump is a lock to Repub ticket. Save a prostitution type scandal or a barrage of bullets, he's a lock.
This takes u to a Trump vs Shillary long turbulent campaign. Get your assholes ready.
Trump will beat Hillary. He hasn't even started on her. And he will get back in the good graces of the GOP by picking Kasich as VP.
Pelicans78
03-29-2016, 11:47 AM
If Cruz isn't effected by this scandal/report from last week, Trump won't get the majority of delegates before the convention.
hater
03-29-2016, 11:50 AM
If Cruz isn't effected by this scandal/report from last week, Trump won't get the majority of delegates before the convention.
Don't matter. Even then, he would still be short only a handful. As Trump said if GOP doesn't pick him, expect riots
Establishment will do anything to deny Trump the nomination. Look at Louisiana - Trump won Louisiana but got less delegates - something about his campaign was not invited to the meeting for unbound delegates.
RandomGuy
03-29-2016, 12:18 PM
Trump will beat Hillary.
No, not really.
You are going to look as stupid as those who predicted a Romney landslide.
9TwuR0jCavk
:lol
RandomGuy
03-29-2016, 12:19 PM
Establishment will do anything to deny Trump the nomination. Look at Louisiana - Trump won Louisiana but got less delegates - something about his campaign was not invited to the meeting for unbound delegates.
The knives have come out...
http://cp91279.biography.com/Julius-Caesar-5-Little-Known-Facts-About-His-Death_HD_768x432-16x9.jpg
Establishment will do anything to deny Trump the nomination. Look at Louisiana - Trump won Louisiana but got less delegates - something about his campaign was not invited to the meeting for unbound delegates.
It's disgusting.. Everything about LYIN' Ted is gross.
No, not really.
You are going to look as stupid as those who predicted a Romney landslide.
It's partially wishful thinking. I know. But he has a much better chance than LYIN' TED.
However, if she picks Bernie as her VP then they will be unstoppable against any opponent.
boutons_deux
03-29-2016, 12:25 PM
Like the Old Lesbian from SC says: "choice is between being shot or being poisoned"
Trump and Kruz supporters thinking voting in these protest, anti-establishment candidates, or any Repug establishment clown, will do fuck all for them proves the supporters are dumbed-down and clueless.
And Kasich is aa extreme right wing as any of them, just check OH's actions under Kasich.
Pelicans78
03-29-2016, 12:26 PM
Don't matter. Even then, he would still be short only a handful. As Trump said if GOP doesn't pick him, expect riots
I don't think he will be that class. Looks like Cruz will take Wisconsin which is winner take all. 42 delegates. Trump will get most of the NE states, but Cruz will start winning out West and if Cruz wins California then Trump won't be close to getting a majority.
It's partially wishful thinking. I know. But he has a much better chance than LYIN' TED.
However, if she picks Bernie as her VP then they will be unstoppable against any opponent.
Hope DNC insists on a young person as VP for future of party - she'll probably want the sure bet (Bernie) no matter how old he is.
Pelicans78
03-29-2016, 12:29 PM
Establishment will do anything to deny Trump the nomination. Look at Louisiana - Trump won Louisiana but got less delegates - something about his campaign was not invited to the meeting for unbound delegates.
Trump barely won Louisiana so they both got the same amount of pledged delegates. However, Cruz is getting the unbound delegates from the other candidates. Establishment has nothing to do with it. The Cruz campaign went hard after the unbound delegates and got them. Nothing fishy about it. His campaign is just working harder than Trump's.
Pelicans78
03-29-2016, 12:31 PM
It's partially wishful thinking. I know. But he has a much better chance than LYIN' TED.
However, if she picks Bernie as her VP then they will be unstoppable against any opponent.
No he doesn't. Current polling shows Trump getting his ass handed to him by Hillary or Bernie. Trump is only getting white male voters. No women, no minority groups. Unfavorable 73%.
I don't think he will be that class. Looks like Cruz will take Wisconsin which is winner take all. 42 delegates. Trump will get most of the NE states, but Cruz will start winning out West and if Cruz wins California then Trump won't be close to getting a majority.
If Cruz wins California buy some lotto tickets.
Pelicans78
03-29-2016, 12:32 PM
If Cruz wins California buy some lotto tickets.
It's gonna be close unless Kasich takes votes away.
RandomGuy
03-29-2016, 12:32 PM
If Cruz isn't effected by this scandal/report from last week, Trump won't get the majority of delegates before the convention.
I think real journalists are holding out until there is a bit more confirmed data.
That doesn't preclude the fake ones from pulling thing out of their asses though.
No he doesn't. Current polling shows Trump getting his ass handed to him by Hillary or Bernie. Trump is only getting white male voters. No women, no minority groups. Unfavorable 73%.
Current polling. He hasn't started on Hillary and picking Kasich will help him in the incredibly important swing state of Ohio. CRUZ HAS NO CHANCE. NONE!
boutons_deux
03-29-2016, 12:35 PM
Current polling. He hasn't started on Hillary and picking Kasich will help him in the incredibly important swing state of Ohio. CRUZ HAS NO CHANCE. NONE!
Trump won't do shit against Hillary. The more he attempts to Trash Hillary, the stronger the pro-Hillary supporters will be.
He'll get destroyed in November, and his brand will be tarnished from all the garbage he spews.
Trump won't do shit against Hillary. The more he attempts to Trash Hillary, the stronger the pro-Hillary supporters will be.
He'll get destroyed in November, and his brand will be tarnished from all the garbage he spews.
I'm a liberal and my number one issue is foreign intervention/wars. I will never vote for Hillary without Bernie on the ticket. Many liberals feel the same.
hater
03-29-2016, 12:49 PM
I'm a liberal and my number one issue is foreign intervention/wars. I will never vote for Hillary without Bernie on the ticket. Many liberals feel the same.
Agreed. I'd prefer non warmonger Bernie over neocon ambassadorkilla
Shillaey has ni shit vs Trump
Agreed. I'd prefer non warmonger Bernie over neocon ambassadorkilla
Shillaey has ni shit vs Trump
And maybe I could hold my nose and vote for her if her record and positions didn't also suck on trade, wall street regulation, fracking, healthcare, etc.
She's the worst candidate to be put up by the Dems in my lifetime.
Oh, and her Keystone XL position was a total joke too, "BUT BUT BUT I need more information before I can decide". :lol
baseline bum
03-29-2016, 01:15 PM
I'm a liberal and my number one issue is foreign intervention/wars. I will never vote for Hillary without Bernie on the ticket. Many liberals feel the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdv9W-xcgeQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdv9W-xcgeQ
Trump is running in the GOP primarily which is mostly made up of loons, and he has to play to them... And yet, he had the courage to tell them to their face that the Iraq War was wrong, that George W. Bush didn't "keep us safe", that he wouldn't touch Social Security benefits, that single payer healthcare wasn't the devil and that we couldn't "let people die in the streets" the way some GOPers apparently are fine with... He is incredibly shallow but I think he's smarter, more independent, and more pragmatic than Hillary. It's not about the purity test, it's about him being a better candidate as sad as that is.
Also, Trump actually sued Bill for $5M, so there's that. :lol
Aztecfan03
03-29-2016, 01:58 PM
Establishment will do anything to deny Trump the nomination. Look at Louisiana - Trump won Louisiana but got less delegates - something about his campaign was not invited to the meeting for unbound delegates.
Only because he is more left wing than them and is a terrible person.
Mitch
03-29-2016, 02:10 PM
If you could think, you wouldn't compare people, even Dems, dying war with Dems protesting the Trump asshole and all the bottom-feeding shit he represents.
You automatically go to Trump for no reason, like I said: non-content poster.
Why don't you spam the board with a few more articles from Salon. I bet you've been caught posting Onion articles like they were real.
Spurminator
03-29-2016, 02:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdv9W-xcgeQ
I guess I get Sanders supporters not voting for Hilary... I don't agree with them, but I get it. But staying home altogether is just fucking stupid when you consider how many state and local campaigns that will also give to Republicans.
Only because he is more left wing than them and is a terrible person.
I think it's because they can't control him - he's not beholden to any donor - he'll upset their gravy train.
Mitch
03-29-2016, 07:00 PM
I think it's because they can't control him - he's not beholden to any donor - he'll upset their gravy train.
:lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHcaP1-4Wbk
boutons_deux
03-29-2016, 09:37 PM
Facts don't show a Trump revolution
Rachel Maddow points out that contrary to the "anti-establishment" tone of Republican front-runner Donald Trump, Republican voters are so far not rebelling against Republican incumbent candidates and by all measure just seem to like Trump.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/facts-don-t-show-a-trump-revolution-653955651937?cid=sm_fb_maddow
boutons_deux
03-29-2016, 09:46 PM
Trump Fan Brutally Pepper-Sprays Teenage Girl
Violence between Trump supporters and his protesters has broken out once again. A capitol reporter for the Wisconsin State Journal,Molly Beck (https://twitter.com/MollyBeck), witnessed an altercation at a rally in Janesville, which ended with a fifteen-year old protester being pepper-sprayed by a Trump supporter – so badly that she needed medical assistance afterwards. The heavily white town with a lengthy history with the Ku Klux Klan (https://badgerherald.com/news/2003/04/28/kkk-influence-on-the/) exploded into chaos this afternoon as hundreds of Black Lives Matter activists clashed with racists.
UPDATE – Witness reports, confirmed by local police chief, reveal that the Trump supporter sexually assaulted her by groping the young woman’s (https://twitter.com/news3leah/status/714953960486871044)chest, which prompted the punch and then the pepper-spraying. On a day which has already seen Trump and his supporters disparaging and insulting a woman after she was assaulted by his campaign manager (http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/03/29/watch-security-video-just-got-trumps-manager-charged-battery-2/), this truly puts into perspective how deep the hatred in the Trump campaign truly runs – misogyny, xenophobia, racism are all celebrated and defended by Trump and his bigoted supporters. He teaches them to treat other humans as objects, to be groped, shoved, and beaten with impunity; his supporters revel in their new-found confidence and behave like animals in public.
UPDATE – the victim of the pepper-spraying has reached out to Occupy Democratsand has given us this description of the incident to relay:
It was simple. I was in the crowd and a man started groping me. I yelled at him to stop touching me several times and he just laughed and continued, I yelled at him and said “you’re a grown man and I am a fifteen-year-old-girl, are you proud of yourself?” As I tried to push him off. He just kept laughing and still had his hands on me, so I hit him. Immediately as my hands went towards him I got pepper sprayed and then I basically got carried to a cop car because I could not open my eyes.
The pictures are a brutal symbol not only of the violence of Trump’s movement but of their naked disrespect towards women. As he continues to encourage violence at his rallies, the likelihood of people getting injured is rising substantially. This is a low point of American history that we won’t be able to soon recover from. This is fascism at work.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/03/29/just-trump-fan-brutally-pepper-sprays-teenage-girl-video/
Nbadan
03-29-2016, 10:37 PM
I guess I get Sanders supporters not voting for Hilary... I don't agree with them, but I get it. But staying home altogether is just fucking stupid when you consider how many state and local campaigns that will also give to Republicans.
They are all Gerry-mandered anyway
TheSanityAnnex
03-30-2016, 01:03 AM
Trump Fan Brutally Pepper-Sprays Teenage Girl
Violence between Trump supporters and his protesters has broken out once again. A capitol reporter for the Wisconsin State Journal,Molly Beck (https://twitter.com/MollyBeck), witnessed an altercation at a rally in Janesville, which ended with a fifteen-year old protester being pepper-sprayed by a Trump supporter – so badly that she needed medical assistance afterwards. The heavily white town with a lengthy history with the Ku Klux Klan (https://badgerherald.com/news/2003/04/28/kkk-influence-on-the/) exploded into chaos this afternoon as hundreds of Black Lives Matter activists clashed with racists.
UPDATE – Witness reports, confirmed by local police chief, reveal that the Trump supporter sexually assaulted her by groping the young woman’s (https://twitter.com/news3leah/status/714953960486871044)chest, which prompted the punch and then the pepper-spraying. On a day which has already seen Trump and his supporters disparaging and insulting a woman after she was assaulted by his campaign manager (http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/03/29/watch-security-video-just-got-trumps-manager-charged-battery-2/), this truly puts into perspective how deep the hatred in the Trump campaign truly runs – misogyny, xenophobia, racism are all celebrated and defended by Trump and his bigoted supporters. He teaches them to treat other humans as objects, to be groped, shoved, and beaten with impunity; his supporters revel in their new-found confidence and behave like animals in public.
UPDATE – the victim of the pepper-spraying has reached out to Occupy Democratsand has given us this description of the incident to relay:
It was simple. I was in the crowd and a man started groping me. I yelled at him to stop touching me several times and he just laughed and continued, I yelled at him and said “you’re a grown man and I am a fifteen-year-old-girl, are you proud of yourself?” As I tried to push him off. He just kept laughing and still had his hands on me, so I hit him. Immediately as my hands went towards him I got pepper sprayed and then I basically got carried to a cop car because I could not open my eyes.
The pictures are a brutal symbol not only of the violence of Trump’s movement but of their naked disrespect towards women. As he continues to encourage violence at his rallies, the likelihood of people getting injured is rising substantially. This is a low point of American history that we won’t be able to soon recover from. This is fascism at work.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/03/29/just-trump-fan-brutally-pepper-sprays-teenage-girl-video/
Your article seems to be missing a key element, the confirmation from the police chief. I mean for fucks sake it was even an "update"...how'd they leave the chief's crucial statement out.
TheSanityAnnex
03-30-2016, 01:04 AM
Trump Fan Brutally Pepper-Sprays Teenage Girl
Violence between Trump supporters and his protesters has broken out once again. A capitol reporter for the Wisconsin State Journal,Molly Beck (https://twitter.com/MollyBeck), witnessed an altercation at a rally in Janesville, which ended with a fifteen-year old protester being pepper-sprayed by a Trump supporter – so badly that she needed medical assistance afterwards. The heavily white town with a lengthy history with the Ku Klux Klan (https://badgerherald.com/news/2003/04/28/kkk-influence-on-the/) exploded into chaos this afternoon as hundreds of Black Lives Matter activists clashed with racists.
UPDATE – Witness reports, confirmed by local police chief, reveal that the Trump supporter sexually assaulted her by groping the young woman’s (https://twitter.com/news3leah/status/714953960486871044)chest, which prompted the punch and then the pepper-spraying. On a day which has already seen Trump and his supporters disparaging and insulting a woman after she was assaulted by his campaign manager (http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/03/29/watch-security-video-just-got-trumps-manager-charged-battery-2/), this truly puts into perspective how deep the hatred in the Trump campaign truly runs – misogyny, xenophobia, racism are all celebrated and defended by Trump and his bigoted supporters. He teaches them to treat other humans as objects, to be groped, shoved, and beaten with impunity; his supporters revel in their new-found confidence and behave like animals in public.
UPDATE – the victim of the pepper-spraying has reached out to Occupy Democratsand has given us this description of the incident to relay:
It was simple. I was in the crowd and a man started groping me. I yelled at him to stop touching me several times and he just laughed and continued, I yelled at him and said “you’re a grown man and I am a fifteen-year-old-girl, are you proud of yourself?” As I tried to push him off. He just kept laughing and still had his hands on me, so I hit him. Immediately as my hands went towards him I got pepper sprayed and then I basically got carried to a cop car because I could not open my eyes.
The pictures are a brutal symbol not only of the violence of Trump’s movement but of their naked disrespect towards women. As he continues to encourage violence at his rallies, the likelihood of people getting injured is rising substantially. This is a low point of American history that we won’t be able to soon recover from. This is fascism at work.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/03/29/just-trump-fan-brutally-pepper-sprays-teenage-girl-video/
did you even watch the video?
spurraider21
03-30-2016, 03:04 AM
Current polling. He hasn't started on Hillary and picking Kasich will help him in the incredibly important swing state of Ohio. CRUZ HAS NO CHANCE. NONE!
:lol that means nothing... the people who would be swayed by trump are people who are voting for him anyway
I'm a liberal and my number one issue is foreign intervention/wars. I will never vote for Hillary without Bernie on the ticket. Many liberals feel the same.
this is completely inconsistent with your support for trump
this is completely inconsistent with your support for trump
Please tell me how.
MultiTroll
03-30-2016, 08:40 AM
watch the video?
All I saw was the .gif
Looks like she blows air out of her nose and that prompts pepper spray guy to act?
spurraider21
03-30-2016, 08:48 AM
Please tell me how.
you're concerned with foreign intervention and you want the guy who wants to go balls out in the middle east, hasn't ruled out using nuclear weapons on the area, etc
boutons_deux
03-30-2016, 08:52 AM
did you even watch the video?
yes, I did. Some typically dickless, chickeshit asshole, very probably a Trump asshole, peppered sprayed her.
Taking pepper spray to a political meeting?
To use it on the cops?
or on opponents.
Really chickshit dicklessness by wannabe Machos.
TheSanityAnnex
03-30-2016, 09:23 AM
yes, I did. Some typically dickless, chickeshit asshole, very probably a Trump asshole, peppered sprayed her.
Taking pepper spray to a political meeting?
To use it on the cops?
or on opponents.
Really chickshit dicklessness by wannabe Machos.
She punched him in face. I wish he would have tased her.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1205275129485299
MultiTroll
03-30-2016, 09:44 AM
She punched him in face. I wish he would have tased her.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1205275129485299
She shoved him near the face?
He seriously felt threatened by love tap from 15 year old girl to the point of using spray?
The f out.
boutons_deux
03-30-2016, 09:50 AM
She punched him in face. I wish he would have tased her.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1205275129485299
hilarious. You reliably come back defending some rightiwingnut, dickless asshole who brings pepper spray to listen to Trump. :lol
you're concerned with foreign intervention and you want the guy who wants to go balls out in the middle east, hasn't ruled out using nuclear weapons on the area, etc
He wants to go "balls out in middle east"? He's never said anything like that other than he wants to destroy ISIS like EVERY other candidate.
He has consistently been against the Iraq war and he has never pushed for regime changes the way Hillary has.
hater
03-30-2016, 09:53 AM
Pretty much. Donald wants to work with Russia tbh. That's as far as from a warmonger as possible. He should receive the Nobel peace prize just for saying that tbqh
Hell Obama got the award for saying way less :lmao
boutons_deux
03-30-2016, 11:11 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/styles/ratio--3-2--1_5x-1245x830/public/ap_546569082082.jpg?itok=atOdeRh-
Trump and his rivals back away from RNC’s loyalty pledge
There was a point last summer when Donald Trump flirted with the possibility of running an independent presidential campaign, prompting widespread consternation in Republican circles. But by early September, Trump announced (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gop-finds-the-one-issue-which-trump-willing-back-down) that he’d signed the RNC’s “loyalty pledge,” committing him to the party’s nominating process – and its nominee.
As we’ve discussed (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-sees-rnc-default-putting-pledge-jeopardy) before, however, the New York Republican left himself some wiggle room. Trump said, repeatedly, that he would honor the agreement so long as Republicans treated him “fairly.” He never specified exactly what “fairly” meant – apparently, he knows it when he sees it – but the candidate’s rhetoric suggested he always saw a way out of his promise.
All of which led up to last night, when things changed (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-no-longer-willing-support-the-republican-nominee).
When pushed again by moderator Anderson Cooper about whether he’d respect the so-called “Loyalty Pledge” … Trump was more direct:
“No, I don’t anymore. No. We’ll see who it is. And he was essentially saying the same thing.”
In this case, “he” referred to Trump’s principal rival, Sen. Ted Cruz, who also suggested he no longer feels bound by the party’s pledge.
“I’m not in the habit of supporting someone who attacks my wife and attacks my family,” Cruz said last night. Pressed to explain the implications of his position, the Texas Republican would only say, “I gave you my answer.”
For good measure, even John Kasich hedged (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/29/trump-waffles-on-pledge-to-support-eventual-gop-nominee/) on whether he’ll honor the RNC pledge, saying he would have to wait to “see what happens” in the Republican race before deciding whether to keep his commitment.
Keep in mind, at a Republican debate held earlier this month, these candidates were asked (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/so-long-party-loyalty-reigns-never-trump-just-noise) whether they’d support their party’s presidential nominee, no matter who prevailed. Cruz said, “Yes, because I gave my word that I would.” Kasich responded, “ ends up as the nominee – sometimes, he makes it a little bit hard – but, you know, I will support whoever is the Republican nominee for president.”
A lot has happened in the four weeks since, and as of last night, the RNC’s “pledge” appears to be no more.
The next question, of course, is whether or not anyone should care about its demise. As a practical matter, if Trump eventually secures the Republican nomination, it won’t make [I]too much of a difference if Cruz and/or Kasich balk at an endorsement. It won’t look good that they abandoned their promise, but the real-world consequences are limited.
If, however, Trump doesn’t win his party’s nomination, and he’s decided the pledge is null and void, he may yet pursue a third-party candidacy – the one scenario the RNC thought it had prevented when Trump signed on the dotted line.
It’s difficult to know for certain just how serious to take these developments. The simple truth is, these Republican candidates have been battling it out for nearly a year; they’re in the middle of a long slog that won’t end for months; a contested convention appears likely; and by all appearances, the members of this trio don’t much care for one another. Asking them about their willingness to support a rival right now is like asking siblings to talk about their love for one another in the middle of an ugly family argument – it may be true, but it’s not foremost on their minds at the moment.
Regardless, if each of the remaining Republican presidential contenders have given up on the pledge they signed, the intensity of intra-party heartburn is only going to get worse. The document was supposed to bind these candidates to a process and a set of rules, and if it’s been shredded by the people who signed it, the political world can expect increased chaos.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-and-his-rivals-back-away-rncs-loyalty-pledge?cid=sm_fb_maddow
:lol You Repugs, thanks for the SOAP OPERA! :lol
hater
03-30-2016, 11:14 AM
Hell Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for his tan :lmao
Trump has always said his pledge was conditional based on him being treated fairly. Look at what they're doing to him in Louisiana! That's not fair!
boutons_deux
03-30-2016, 11:21 AM
Perhaps adding to the Repug shitstorm:
Years later, the ‘D.C. Madam’ scandal is relevant once more
The former attorney for the “D.C. Madam” has asked the United States Supreme Court to allow him to release records of Deborah Jeane Palfrey’s escort service, including customer names, addresses and Social Security numbers, because they allegedly could affect the 2016 presidential election.
In an application to the high court, filed Monday, Montgomery Blair Sibley is asking to be released from a judge’s 2007 restraining order which prohibited him from sharing Palfrey’s telephone records, during the much-publicized run-up to her federal trial for racketeering, money laundering and mail fraud.
And, if the Supreme Court won’t hear his argument, Sibley says he will release the identifying information of Palfrey’s customers.
Sibley, however, now wants to release the documents, and in fact, believes it’s in the public’s interest for him to do so. As Rachel explained last night, Sibley argued in his court filings that the materials from the D.C. Madam case “contain information relevant to the upcoming presidential election.”
In his latest filing with the Supreme Court, the lawyer added, “Time is of the essence. Given the significance of the upcoming political primaries and caucuses, in the looming Republican and Democratic conventions on July 18th and July 25th respectively, and given the impact of the presently sealed from the public record that this attorney seeks to release, upon those electoral deliberations, expedited resolution to this application is incumbent upon this court.”
Sibley went on to argue, “The delay by this court and resolution of this application in hindsight will intentionally favor one presidential candidate over others by protecting that candidate from the release of the D.C. madam phone records, which the attorney maintains are relevant to this election cycle.”
The attorney added that he may release the materials fairly soon, whether the court gives him permission or not.
It’s the kind of story that raises all kinds of questions, for which there are no publicly available answers. But as we’ve seen, the D.C. Madam scandal has already affected many lives, and its political significance was obvious when Vitter lost his gubernatorial election last fall by double digits.
All of this appears likely to play out over the next two weeks. It’s not getting a lot of media attention just yet, but it’s worth keeping an eye on this one.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/years-later-the-dc-madam-scandal-relevant-once-more?cid=sm_fb_maddow
Hillary the dyke (according to rightwingnut hate media)? Bernie? or Repug(s)?
Sibley filed a birther suit against Obama, but also questioned Kruz's eligibility, so it's hard to tell which party's candidates would be damaged by the DC Madam's list.
Pelicans78
03-30-2016, 11:24 AM
Trump has always said his pledge was conditional based on him being treated fairly. Look at what they're doing to him in Louisiana! That's not fair!
What's unfair about it? He barely won. Cruz came out with the same delegates. There were 10 unbound delegates from other candidates and they choose Cruz which shows Cruz probably would have won the state if it was just those two going at it.
TheSanityAnnex
03-30-2016, 11:27 AM
hilarious. You reliably come back defending some rightiwingnut, dickless asshole who brings pepper spray to listen to Trump. :lol
hilarious. You reliably come back defending some dumb kunt who thinks her actions don't have consequences.
TheSanityAnnex
03-30-2016, 11:28 AM
She shoved him near the face?
He seriously felt threatened by love tap from 15 year old girl to the point of using spray?
The f out.
don't want pepper spray don't punch someone in the face. I don't give a shit how old she was and I'm sure she won't be doing that again, lesson learned.
Pelicans78
03-30-2016, 11:29 AM
Trump's probably the least qualified candidate. Listening to him for a whole hour yesterday actually made me dumber. He really has no clue on what's going on and basically just says things that his supporters want to here. His comment on NATO being obsolete was retarded and every response is "we have a big problem going on."
There were 10 unbound delegates from other candidates and they choose Cruz which shows Cruz probably would have won the state if it was just those two going at it.
Ughh... No, that's not what it shows.
Regardless, Cruz didn't win. LMAO "would have"... Contests shouldn't be decided on what you think "would have" happened.
Pelicans78
03-30-2016, 11:37 AM
Ughh... No, that's not what it shows.
Regardless, Cruz didn't win. LMAO "would have"... Contests shouldn't be decided on what you think "would have" happened.
But that's the point. The delegate process is part of the election and those unbound delegates choose Cruz over Trump.
TheSanityAnnex
03-30-2016, 11:39 AM
Trump's probably the least qualified candidate. Listening to him for a whole hour yesterday actually made me dumber. He really has no clue on what's going on and basically just says things that his supporters want to here. His comment on NATO being obsolete was retarded and every response is "we have a big problem going on."
Yeah last night listening to him was brutal and he rarely actually answered a question. Really wish Kasich had more support, most level headed guy left.
Pelicans78
03-30-2016, 11:43 AM
Yeah last night listening to him was brutal and he rarely actually answered a question. Really wish Kasich had more support, most level headed guy left.
Yeah Kasich is by far the most qualified on either side just by listening to him. Has the most experience too.
The Reckoning
03-30-2016, 11:57 AM
Trump must have a lifelong beef against the Republican party. It's incredible to watch him destroy the party from within. He's a political genius.
boutons_deux
03-30-2016, 12:10 PM
L'il Marco is not releasing his 170 delegates, deluded that he can have some impact at the convention.
Aztecfan03
03-30-2016, 12:29 PM
Trump must have a lifelong beef against the Republican party. It's incredible to watch him destroy the party from within. He's a political genius.
Just doing a favor for his pals Bill and Hillary.
baseline bum
03-30-2016, 12:34 PM
Yeah last night listening to him was brutal and he rarely actually answered a question. Really wish Kasich had more support, most level headed guy left.
Still, what candidate has ever answered questions?
boutons_deux
03-30-2016, 12:44 PM
Corporations Grow Nervous About Participating in Republican Convention
Some of the country’s best-known corporations are nervously grappling with what role they should play at the Republican (http://www.nytimes.com/topic/subject/republican-national-convention)N (http://www.nytimes.com/topic/subject/republican-national-convention)ational C (http://www.nytimes.com/topic/subject/republican-national-convention)onvention (http://www.nytimes.com/topic/subject/republican-national-convention), given the likely nomination of Donald J. Trump (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/donald-trump-on-the-issues.html?inline=nyt-per), whose divisive candidacy has alienated many women, African-Americans and Hispanics.
An array of activist groups is organizing a campaign to pressure the companies to refuse to sponsor the gathering, which many of the corporations have done for both the Republican and Democratic parties for decades.
The pressure is emerging as some businesses and trade groups are already privately debating whether to scale back their participation, according to interviews with more than a dozen lobbyists, consultants and fund-raisers directly involved in the conversations.
Apple, Google and Walmart are among the companies assessing their plans for the convention, which will be held in Cleveland from July 18 through July 21.
In addition to Mr. Trump’s divisive politics, there is the possibility that protests, or even violence, will become a focus of attention at the convention. Mr. Trump has suggested (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/16/donald-trump-warns-of-riots-if-party-blocks-him-at-conve)t (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/16/donald-trump-warns-of-riots-if-party-blocks-him-at-conve)hat (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/16/donald-trump-warns-of-riots-if-party-blocks-him-at-conve)there w (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/16/donald-trump-warns-of-riots-if-party-blocks-him-at-conve)ill (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/16/donald-trump-warns-of-riots-if-party-blocks-him-at-conve) be “riots” (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/16/donald-trump-warns-of-riots-if-party-blocks-him-at-conve) if he is not chosen as the party’s nominee, and the city of Cleveland recently sought bids for (http://www.cleveland.com/rnc-2016/index.ssf/2016/03/cleveland_seeking_to_buy_riot.html) about 2,000 sets of riot gear for its police force.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/31/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-national-convention.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
hater
03-30-2016, 01:12 PM
Trump's probably the least qualified candidate. Listening to him for a whole hour yesterday actually made me dumber. He really has no clue on what's going on and basically just says things that his supporters want to here. His comment on NATO being obsolete was retarded and every response is "we have a big problem going on."
Well. shillary basically says things her Financers want to hear.
Trump it is :tu
hater
03-30-2016, 01:14 PM
And how the hell is Shillary more qualified????
Last time she had a job she killed our ambassador and created ISIS
I won't blame her for Banghazi but the Iraq War definitely gave rise to ISIS as we know it.
Pelicans78
03-30-2016, 01:43 PM
Still, what candidate has ever answered questions?
At least Kasich and even Cruz were giving some details. Trump was like, "well, we've got a really big problem..."
Pelicans78
03-30-2016, 01:45 PM
And how the hell is Shillary more qualified????
Last time she had a job she killed our ambassador and created ISIS
She's not qualified at all. She's horrible.
That's why a Trump vs Hillary is gonna turn alot of people away from voting. Not sure which disaster to vote for.
angrydude
03-30-2016, 01:51 PM
And how the hell is Shillary more qualified????
Last time she had a job she killed our ambassador and created ISIS
She's like any other government employee who fails upward
boutons_deux
03-30-2016, 03:23 PM
Trump, who is currently struggling with women voters, was pressed on the issue of abortion during an interview with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, set to air Wednesday evening.
Matthews asked whether abortion should be punished, and Trump initially skated around the issue. He said some Republicans would say it should be, and that he “would say it’s a very serious problem and it’s a problem we have to decide on.”
He then asked Matthews — but didn’t answer himself — “Are you going to, say, put them to jail?” and added he was anti-abortion and that “we have to ban” abortion.
“There has to be some form of punishment,” Trump said, adding “Yeah” when Matthews asked if he meant for the woman. The host asked if that punishment would be closer to 10 days or 10 years, and Trump said he didn’t know.
Trump indicated he would be far more lenient on the man who impregnated a woman who had an abortion — he said he did not think (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/trump-advocates-abortion-ban-some-form-punishment-women) they would bear the same level of responsibility.
The Trump campaign quickly tried to walk back his comments afterward, saying the matter should be decided by the states.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-abortion-women-punishment_us_56fc2a99e4b083f5c606880d?ir=Politics§ion=us_politics&utm_campaign=033016&utm_content=FullStory&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Alert-politics
:lol
Any Repug was going to lose the wimmen vote by multiples of 10% anyway, but WTF? :lol
Let's watch Lyin' Ted get to the right of that, bitch. :toast
Spurminator
03-30-2016, 03:32 PM
Honestly, how much of the pro-choice vote is Trump commanding right now anyway? He didn't answer that question any differently than most pro-lifers would have.
angrydude
03-30-2016, 03:58 PM
He's just seeing what he can get away with now.
Spurminator
03-30-2016, 04:07 PM
Honestly, I don't see how going strong on abortion does anything but help him. His weakest area is still the evangelical vote.
Pelicans78
03-30-2016, 04:11 PM
Honestly, I don't see how going strong on abortion does anything but help him. His weakest area is still the evangelical vote.
Getting that endorsement from Falwell Jr. was yuuugee
Spurminator
03-30-2016, 04:14 PM
Cruz had better start talking about patrolling feminist/abortionist neighborhoods stat.
hater
03-30-2016, 04:26 PM
Geniius. Trump has just sealed the nomnatiin with his statements about abortion :lol
Checkmate
spurraider21
03-30-2016, 04:38 PM
Geniius. Trump has just sealed the nomnatiin with his statements about abortion :lol
Checkmate
:lol hater is probably the most entertaining poster in the political forum
Geniius. Trump has just sealed the nomnatiin with his statements about abortion :lol
Checkmate
Then why is he walking the comments back now?
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/274733-trump-attempts-to-walk-back-abortion-comments
Pussy.
Pelicans78
03-30-2016, 04:59 PM
Trump the Chump keeps shooting himself in the foot. Can't help himself just like his bouncer, I mean campaign manager.
No surprise Cruz has turned a 10 point deficit last month in Wisconsin to now a 10 point lead in today's polling.
boutons_deux
03-30-2016, 05:15 PM
Trumps getting TONS of play, again, for his "punish women if illegal abortion, I don't know ..."
Aztecfan03
03-30-2016, 05:31 PM
Honestly, how much of the pro-choice vote is Trump commanding right now anyway? He didn't answer that question any differently than most pro-lifers would have.
*He didn't answer it any differently than the way LIBERALS THINK pro-lifers would have answered it.
This shit is blowing up about the abortion stuff. Lol Trump. Lol hater
Warlord23
03-30-2016, 06:21 PM
This supports the theory that Trump is a Democratic plant. Trump might be intentionally tanking to ensure Cruz's nomination and an easier match up for the Dems.
Think about it: at this point, the most likely outcome is a contested convention with Trump falling short by a couple of hundred delegates, and Cruz/Kasich way behind. That gives the GOP establishment a chance (albeit small) of overthrowing both Trump and Cruz and inserting a moderate who will put up a better fight in the general. Trump probably figures that if he can't lock up the nomination outright, he'd rather throw it to Cruz than risk a convention coup by Kasich or Ryan. So he's making absurd statements to ensure that Cruz wins the states where he and Trump are the contenders. That allows Cruz to win a lot more delegates and get close to Trump's total. Then it would be more likely that the establishment grudgingly backs Cruz at the convention. Or Trump throws a tantrum and leaves just before the convention, with a majority of delegates coalescing behind Cruz.
A Cruz nomination is almost as good for the Dems as a Trump nomination. Cruz appeals to a narrow sliver of the electorate and if Shillary stays out of the FBI's grasp, she should win comfortably. Not so if it's Kasich facing her.
If this plays out, Trump would have eliminated all the moderates and handed the nomination to the least electable GOP candidate
InRareForm
03-30-2016, 07:58 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/31/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-national-convention.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0 sponsors scared to sponsor for RNC
hater
03-30-2016, 08:48 PM
This shit is blowing up about the abortion stuff. Lol Trump. Lol hater
Lol blowing up.
a bunch of feminazis on twatter and cnn bitching :lol
boutons_deux
03-30-2016, 08:51 PM
"inserting a moderate"
:lol
The VRWC and their tea baggin whores will not allow any "moderate", of which there are none left in the pure, purged Repug party. Even Paul Ryan is gonna be primaried.
boutons_deux
03-30-2016, 10:10 PM
Coca-Cola Dumps Trump And Declines To Sponsor The Republican Convention
The New York Times reported (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/31/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-national-convention.html)that Coca-Cola has heard the complaints brought by ColorofChange and has already declined to sponsor the Republican National Convention to the same level of $600,000.00 as they did in 2012.
In fact, they had donated $75,000.00 and they have no plans to donate more.Why? ColorofChange has a more than 100,000 signatures on a petition (http://act.colorofchange.org/sign/stop-sponsoring-donald-trump/?t=5&referring_akid=5600.374376.bJMkdl)demanding that the companies that sponsor the convention decline to do so this year, including Google, Walmart, Xerox, and Apple.
Kent Landers, a Coca-Cola spokesman, declined to explain the reduction in support. But officials at the company are trying to quietly defuse a campaign organized by the civil rights advocacy group Color of Change, which says it has collected more than 100,000 signatures on a petition demanding that Coca-Cola, Google, Xerox and other companies decline to sponsor the convention. Donating to the event, the petition states, is akin to endorsing Mr. Trump’s “hateful and racist rhetoric.’’
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/30/coca-cola-declines-sponsor-republican-national-convention-hate.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
They don't even know if Trump will win it. Cruz could get it.
Mitch
03-30-2016, 11:39 PM
Cruz gets it and he loses every possible swing state, tbh. Weak candidate and the sex scandal will bite him in the ass
They don't even know if Trump will win it. Cruz could get it.
Trump is looking kind of done.
spurraider21
03-31-2016, 12:25 AM
:lmao rubio
baseline bum
03-31-2016, 07:17 AM
Geniius. Trump has just sealed the nomnatiin with his statements about abortion :lol
Checkmate
What do you think of him wanting Saudi Arabia to have nukes?
pgardn
03-31-2016, 07:41 AM
This supports the theory that Trump is a Democratic plant. Trump might be intentionally tanking to ensure Cruz's nomination and an easier match up for the Dems.
Think about it: at this point, the most likely outcome is a contested convention with Trump falling short by a couple of hundred delegates, and Cruz/Kasich way behind. That gives the GOP establishment a chance (albeit small) of overthrowing both Trump and Cruz and inserting a moderate who will put up a better fight in the general. Trump probably figures that if he can't lock up the nomination outright, he'd rather throw it to Cruz than risk a convention coup by Kasich or Ryan. So he's making absurd statements to ensure that Cruz wins the states where he and Trump are the contenders. That allows Cruz to win a lot more delegates and get close to Trump's total. Then it would be more likely that the establishment grudgingly backs Cruz at the convention. Or Trump throws a tantrum and leaves just before the convention, with a majority of delegates coalescing behind Cruz.
A Cruz nomination is almost as good for the Dems as a Trump nomination. Cruz appeals to a narrow sliver of the electorate and if Shillary stays out of the FBI's grasp, she should win comfortably. Not so if it's Kasich facing her.
If this plays out, Trump would have eliminated all the moderates and handed the nomination to the least electable GOP candidate
So the Democrats had all this planned...
How about...?
NO.
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 07:52 AM
Bishop Gekko has filed with FEC. He may be the knitter in the Cleveland woodpile
Chinook
03-31-2016, 07:54 AM
This abortion issue may be the dumbest thing yet. If abortion is illegal, and a woman gets one, she absolutely SHOULD be punished for it. Like seriously, what the fuck is wrong with this world? Does the word "illegal" have a different meaning now?
And no, potential assholes, I'm not pro-life. I'm just shocked that people on both sides can be attacking Trump for making one of his most reasonable statements ever.
This abortion issue may be the dumbest thing yet. If abortion is illegal, and a woman gets one, she absolutely SHOULD be punished for it. Like seriously, what the fuck is wrong with this world? Does the word "illegal" have a different meaning now?
And no, potential assholes, I'm not pro-life. I'm just shocked that people on both sides can be attacking Trump for making one of his most reasonable statements ever.
100% Co-Signed!
hater
03-31-2016, 07:58 AM
What do you think of him wanting Saudi Arabia to have nukes?
No problem with it whatsoever. As long as Iran can have nukes as well of course. Hell even Pakistan has nukes and that country can't get more backwards if Terry tried :lol plus they are already Saudis servant nation.
Best case scenario, the entire middle east nukes themselves to oblivion :lol
Another genious move by Trump :lol
The media has to sensationalize everything -- it's disgusting! Trump even walked back the comment but that won't stop MSNBC from spending almost the entire news cycle celebrating its "gotcha" moment.
hater
03-31-2016, 08:05 AM
This abortion issue may be the dumbest thing yet. If abortion is illegal, and a woman gets one, she absolutely SHOULD be punished for it. Like seriously, what the fuck is wrong with this world? Does the word "illegal" have a different meaning now?
And no, potential assholes, I'm not pro-life. I'm just shocked that people on both sides can be attacking Trump for making one of his most reasonable statements ever.
Pretty much spot on. Win win situation by Trump..hes pit the neocons, liberals, media and feminazis in a virtual headlock :lol
He's just enjoying himself at this point :lmao
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 08:12 AM
This abortion issue may be the dumbest thing yet. If abortion is illegal, and a woman gets one, she absolutely SHOULD be punished for it.
how about the person, esp a male, who performed the abortion?
how about the male impregnator who is an accomplice to, perhaps instigator of, the abortion?
or is it only the woman who is to be punished?
btw, Ms of American women had abortions prior to Roe v Wade, in America, and many were wives, daughters, friends, lovers of men like cops, judges, pastors, lawyers and other men in establishment positions. How many of those men were punished when abortion was illegal?
You People are truly misogynist, sexist pigs.
Chinook
03-31-2016, 08:20 AM
how about the person, esp a male, who performed the abortion?
Yep. Drug dealers and drug users are both punished. It's not a big legal conundrum.
how about the male impregnator who who is an accomplice to, perhaps instigator of, the abortion?
If he aids in the abortion, then yes, but to a lesser extent. A person telling you to use drugs isn't breaking the law. A person driving you to pick them up is. Simply getting a woman pregnant isn't close to setting up the abortion, so absolutely not.
or is it only the woman who is to be punished?
I just answered this in the above quotes.
Ms of American women had abortions prior to Roe v Wade, in America, and many were wives, daughters, friends, lovers of men like cops, judges, pastors, lawyers and other men in establishment positions. How many of those men were punished when abortion was illegal?
Does "Ms" mean "millions"? Anyway you have to do more work than that if you want to make a point. I assume you're arguing that those husbands, fathers, friends and lovers actively participated in the abortions. But you have to show that was the case. Even so, I could care less who was punished and who wasn't. I was arguing about what should be the case logically, not what was once the case.
You People are truly misogynist, sexist pigs.
So says the guy who supports the idea that women shouldn't be considered moral agents in front of abortion law. Your stance completely undercuts the pro-choice stance.
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 09:13 AM
Donald Trump Says His Very Rich Muslim Friends Won’t Be Banned From The Country
“I have been called by more Muslims saying what you are doing is a great thing, not a bad thing,” he continued. “Believe it or not, I have a lot of friends that are Muslim, and they call me, and in most cases, they’re very rich Muslims.”
Pressed by MSNBC’s Chris Matthews whether Trump’s friends could even get into the country with a ban on Muslims, Trump conceded. “They’ll come in,” he said. “They’ll come in, and you’ll have exceptions.”
http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2016/03/31/3765216/trump-muslim-friends-immigration/
mrsmaalox
03-31-2016, 09:19 AM
This abortion issue may be the dumbest thing yet. If abortion is illegal, and a woman gets one, she absolutely SHOULD be punished for it. Like seriously, what the fuck is wrong with this world? Does the word "illegal" have a different meaning now?
And no, potential assholes, I'm not pro-life. I'm just shocked that people on both sides can be attacking Trump for making one of his most reasonable statements ever.
Well it's pretty dumb to say because it goes against how pro lifers see it. Evangelical prolifers have NEVER advocated for punishment of women who have had abortions, those women have the same opportunity to repent their sin and be forgiven accepted into heaven just like everyone else does. Remember they don't hate the sinner, just the sin. The prolife movement has then demonized the doctors and clinics that perform the abortions in order to portray the woman and fetus as their "victims". As long as women and fetuses are the ones being victimized they are justified in murdering the doctors and bombing the clinics and can use the excuse of implementing "safety procedures" to shut down as many clinics as possible. These particular comments about abortion alone aren't going to bring Trump down. But they show how out of touch Trump is with the pulse of his potential supporters and collectively with all the other out of touch things he has said can bring him down eventually.
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 09:27 AM
*He didn't answer it any differently than the way LIBERALS THINK pro-lifers would have answered it.
That's bullshit. You can't say abortion is murder and then waffle on whether the person who sought out that murder should be held responsible. Do you really think the group of people who believes that a woman should be forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy for 40 weeks is really that concerned about the well being of the woman after she terminates the pregnancy?
Sounds like the pro-life movement is as confused as Trump. I've grown up with enough pro-lifers to know they would have no problem with a hefty fine or even jail time for a woman who had an illegal abortion.
Donald Trump Says His Very Rich Muslim Friends Won’t Be Banned From The Country
“I have been called by more Muslims saying what you are doing is a great thing, not a bad thing,” he continued. “Believe it or not, I have a lot of friends that are Muslim, and they call me, and in most cases, they’re very rich Muslims.”
Pressed by MSNBC’s Chris Matthews whether Trump’s friends could even get into the country with a ban on Muslims, Trump conceded. “They’ll come in,” he said. “They’ll come in, and you’ll have exceptions.”
http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2016/03/31/3765216/trump-muslim-friends-immigration/
See, he's reasonable.
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 09:35 AM
See, he's reasonable.
His tax plan says he is above all Wealth Warrior (includes preferences, privileges for his wealthy Muslim friends), and won't do fuck all for the 99%.
And since the MIC is war profiteering for the wealthy, Trump will not restrain the MIC, as your delusion goes.
mrsmaalox
03-31-2016, 09:35 AM
That's bullshit. You can't say abortion is murder and then waffle on whether the person who sought out that murder should be held responsible. Do you really think the group of people who believes that a woman should be forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy for 40 weeks is really that concerned about the well being of the woman after she terminates the pregnancy?
Sounds like the pro-life movement is as confused as Trump. I've grown up with enough pro-lifers to know they would have no problem with a hefty fine or even jail time for a woman who had an illegal abortion.
Extremely. Its difficult to reconcile the hypocrisy of their own cherry picked beliefs and still find a way into heaven.
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 09:38 AM
Well it's pretty dumb to say because it goes against how pro lifers see it. Evangelical prolifers have NEVER advocated for punishment of women who have had abortions, those women have the same opportunity to repent their sin and be forgiven accepted into heaven just like everyone else does. Remember they don't hate the sinner, just the sin. The prolife movement has then demonized the doctors and clinics that perform the abortions in order to portray the woman and fetus as their "victims". As long as women and fetuses are the ones being victimized they are justified in murdering the doctors and bombing the clinics and can use the excuse of implementing "safety procedures" to shut down as many clinics as possible. These particular comments about abortion alone aren't going to bring Trump down. But they show how out of touch Trump is with the pulse of his potential supporters and collectively with all the other out of touch things he has said can bring him down eventually.
That's just the PR spin that evangelicals put on the issue. It's similar to saying laws requiring arbitrarily lofty standards for abortion clinics are about protecting women's health.
But yeah, Trump clearly didn't read the talking points. Still, I know there are a lot of people that quietly agreed with him on this... He was just saying what everybody's thinking, as the saying goes. Probably shouldn't have backtracked.
mrsmaalox
03-31-2016, 09:42 AM
That's just the PR spin that evangelicals put on the issue. It's similar to saying laws requiring arbitrarily lofty standards for abortion clinics are about protecting women's health.
But yeah, Trump clearly didn't read the talking points. Still, I know there are a lot of people that quietly agreed with him on this... He was just saying what everybody's thinking, as the saying goes. Probably shouldn't have backtracked.
I agree its all about PR spin but that's what they rely on. Spin. So Trump did not help their case at all.
hater
03-31-2016, 09:47 AM
Trump will win the presidency without an ounze of spin.
:tu
Chinook
03-31-2016, 09:47 AM
Well it's pretty dumb to say because it goes against how pro lifers see it. Evangelical prolifers have NEVER advocated for punishment of women who have had abortions, those women have the same opportunity to repent their sin and be forgiven accepted into heaven just like everyone else does. Remember they don't hate the sinner, just the sin. The prolife movement has then demonized the doctors and clinics that perform the abortions in order to portray the woman and fetus as their "victims". As long as women and fetuses are the ones being victimized they are justified in murdering the doctors and bombing the clinics and can use the excuse of implementing "safety procedures" to shut down as many clinics as possible. These particular comments about abortion alone aren't going to bring Trump down. But they show how out of touch Trump is with the pulse of his potential supporters and collectively with all the other out of touch things he has said can bring him down eventually.
That's fine. I get how this hurts him with his base. But liberals have no room for attacking a logically consistent point. Same thing with Murdoch for however it's spelled in 2012. Just talking points on both sides. It's embarrassing to the country that MSNBC and other leftist groups are jumping on this as being anti-woman. Never seen a more sexist take.
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 09:55 AM
Donald Trump has collapsed in general election polls
Donald Trump loves to brag that he's ahead of Hillary Clinton in the polls. "I beat Hillary Clinton in many polls," he repeatedly insisted (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/03/the-fox-news-gop-debate-transcript-annotated/) at a debate earlier this month.
Here on planet Earth, that isn't true or even close to true. In 33 general election pollstracked by HuffPost Pollster (http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton) over the past two months, Trump has led Clinton in just one.
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/FZVF4jIKZlYwNcNRAXcSrGFYPEU=/1200x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6265235/HuffPostpollster.png
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/31/11336884/donald-trump-polls-winning
40% still for this asshole? :lol
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 09:56 AM
‘It was a complete misspeak’: Katrina Pierson shouts at CNN host for quoting Trump verbatim on abortion
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/it-was-a-complete-misspeak-katrina-pierson-shouts-at-cnn-host-for-quoting-trump-verbatim-on-abortion/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 10:03 AM
This supports the theory that Trump is a Democratic plant. Trump might be intentionally tanking to ensure Cruz's nomination and an easier match up for the Dems.
Think about it: at this point, the most likely outcome is a contested convention with Trump falling short by a couple of hundred delegates, and Cruz/Kasich way behind. That gives the GOP establishment a chance (albeit small) of overthrowing both Trump and Cruz and inserting a moderate who will put up a better fight in the general. Trump probably figures that if he can't lock up the nomination outright, he'd rather throw it to Cruz than risk a convention coup by Kasich or Ryan. So he's making absurd statements to ensure that Cruz wins the states where he and Trump are the contenders. That allows Cruz to win a lot more delegates and get close to Trump's total. Then it would be more likely that the establishment grudgingly backs Cruz at the convention. Or Trump throws a tantrum and leaves just before the convention, with a majority of delegates coalescing behind Cruz.
A Cruz nomination is almost as good for the Dems as a Trump nomination. Cruz appeals to a narrow sliver of the electorate and if Shillary stays out of the FBI's grasp, she should win comfortably. Not so if it's Kasich facing her.
If this plays out, Trump would have eliminated all the moderates and handed the nomination to the least electable GOP candidate
Nah. If Trump was a plant, it would make more sense at this point to see it through to the general election.
Chinook
03-31-2016, 10:04 AM
Nah. If Trump was a plant, it would make more sense at this point to see it through to the general election.
I thought you were going to say, "If Trump was a plant, he'd be green, not orange."
hater
03-31-2016, 10:34 AM
Trump just toying with extremists emotions at this point. Feminazis, bible thumpers and mainstream media :lol
Hell unite the country when he's had enough
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 11:27 AM
Theodore Shoebat: 'Sluts' Who Have Abortions Should Be Put To Death
Extremist right-wing activist and Donald Trump supporter Theodore Shoebat posted a video (http://shoebat.com/2016/03/30/donald-trump-says-that-women-who-commit-abortions-and-murder-their-own-children-should-be-punished-by-the-government-and-now-the-pro-life-movement-is-attacking-trump/) last night praising Trump's short-lived (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/donald-trump-abortion-positions/index.html) call to punish women who have abortions, declaring that "sluts" who have abortions should be put to death.
"You pro-life bastards!" Shoebat screamed at the anti-choice groups who criticized Trump's initial position. "You are useless scum. Bastards. Pigs. Swine. Lower than the devils that you claim to be fighting against because you do not follow the law of God."
Shoebat, who was recently featured (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/theodore-shoebat-says-anti-gay-activists-are-carrying-out-inquisition-get-him-renounce-his-e) in Janet Porter's anti-gay documentary "Light Wins (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/topics/light-wins)" along with several Republican presidential candidates, members of Congress and leading anti-gay activists, then cited Leviticus (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2020:2-5) as he declared that "all these sluts who kill their own children" should be put to death.
"They had a choice to keep their legs closed," he stated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNG8KAeaN1c). "They could have controlled themselves, and they got the abortions and they murdered their own children. Let me tell you something, I believe in the death penalty for these women and I believe that God himself agrees with me."
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/theodore-shoebat-sluts-who-have-abortions-should-be-put-death
Trump The Punisher and this murderous asshole are not the only two Repugs and Christian Taliban who are misogynist freaks.
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 11:42 AM
I thought you were going to say, "If Trump was a plant, he'd be green, not orange."
I wish I had.
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 11:43 AM
Fact Checkers Prove That 91% of the Things Donald Trump Says Are False
Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, is at the bottom of the Politifact list with a sad 9% of true or mostly true statements. Just 9% of the things Donald Trump says are mostly related to the truth.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trump-false.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+ (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trump-false.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)%29 (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trump-false.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)
Spurminator
03-31-2016, 12:01 PM
Thoughts from Dallas' most embarrassing religious leader:
“Let me put this in context: Conservative leaders are on TV condemning Trump because it’s politically expedient to do so: You never blame the woman, you paint her as a victim,” he said. “That conservative orthodoxy has been born out of political expediency rather than logic. If you believe abortion is murder, it’s not outlandish to suggest the woman bears some culpability.”Jeffress was asked again: If abortion is one day outlawed, do you believe a woman should be punished for getting an abortion?
“Look,” he said, “I have counseled with many women who have had abortions, and they go through their own private hell,” he said. “I do think they are victims. But if you ever outlaw abortion — and I don’t think it will ever be outlawed — how do you have a law but there’s no punishment for breaking that law? The doctor ought to bear the majority of the punishment.”
“Yes, if she’s committing an act that’s against the law,” he said. “Nobody gets a free pass on breaking the law.”And the woman as well?
Jeffress, incidentally, said he doesn’t really believe Trump wanted to step back his initial answer.
“Mr. Trump was giving an honest knee-jerk answer to that question,” he said. But eventually, the pastor said, Trump “probably came to the conclusion this is not politically palatable in today’s culture. In a refreshing way, it shows his honesty rather than some contrived answer.”
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2016/03/first-baptist-dallas-jeffress-defends-trumps-abortion-comment-embattled-dallas-pd-chief.html/
How come other candidates aren't being asked this question? If you think abortion is murder and a woman voluntarily gets an abortion, then why wouldn't you punish her? This is one of the many reasons I'm pro-choice because pro-life isn't just too extreme a position it's also not practical to enforce. Ted Cruz doesn't even believe in exceptions to anti-abortion policy and he gets off totally free on this question.
boutons_deux
03-31-2016, 12:45 PM
it's not whether anyone "thinks" abortion is murder.
It's whether abortion is legal or illegal.
Trump, assorted assholes, and Christian Taliban say, if illegal, a woman (only) should be punished.
Abortionists and other accomplices to the crime aren't mentioned as punishable, only the (hated) woman.
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