Church of Trump

[CosmicCowboy]

Keep wasting $10Bs and 100Ks lives like we've been doing since your criminals dubya and dickhead fucked up the Middle East.

The GWOT is unwinnable, and US military hasn't won shit anyway since 1945. But it's great for wealth transfer from taxpayers to the MIC.

Nice duck and dodge Boo. I thought you were advocating Russia as the boogeyman.

[CosmicCowboy]

One thing we definitely have in common with Russia is we both despise Islamic terrorism. The big difference is they have it right on their border.

[boutons_deux]

Nice duck and dodge Boo. I thought you were advocating Russia as the boogeyman.

Russia is a boogeyman, given openings in Syria, the M/E, Turkey by your Repugs fucking up the M/E. RIFF

[CosmicCowboy]

You're right Boo. Let's nuke em.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Agenda: A Recipe for Civil Unrest

The Donald’s recent remarks highlight the candidate’s bigotry, but also signal a grim future for African Americans should he be elected.

Donald Trump finally got around to demonizing African Americans. The only surprise is how long he took to get there

But he held off on making broad, baseless generalizations about black people.

“We got the message and he wasn’t even talking about us,” U.S. Representative Eleanor Holmes Norton, a District of Columbia Democrat, told a National Association of Black Journalists convention audience in August, referring to Trump’s comments about other minority groups. “But he was and we knew it.”

Trump has spewed misinformation about African Americans, and, especially, low-income people in inner cities, who according to Trump, have “no jobs,” “no education” and “get shot walking down the street.” “Our African-American communities are absolutely in the worst shape they've ever been in before. Ever. Ever. Ever,” he told a predominately white North Carolina audience this week.

Trump’s remarks not only reveal the billionaire’s bigotry, but also presage a grim future for African Americans should he win in November.

Trump’s America will be known for its hyper-militarized police forces, an intensification of stop-and-frisk policies, and expanded racial and religious profiling. His prescriptions are a recipe for continued civil unrest.

Trump would go further—ending restrictions on the Defense Department program that sends grenade launchers, helmets, armored vehicles, and other surplus military equipment to police forces, some of whom lack the proper training to know when and how to deploy such materiel against civilians, assuming it’s even proper to deploy it at all.

Trump once again (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/donald-trump-new-york-bombing-racial-profiling) endorsed ethnic and religious profiling, giving voice to the very attitude that makes stop-and-frisk so onerous in minority communities.

http://prospect.org/article/trump%E2%80%99s-agenda-recipe-civil-unrest

[DMX7]

Is he running for revenge?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htt91G2qDwM

Yes, it's been at least in the back of his mind throughout this whole process -- that, I can tell you.

[boutons_deux]

Why does it have to be revenge, to you rightwingnuts?

Reasonable, serious people do not want Trash anywhere near the WH, and Obama certainly qualifies.

You racist, bigoted, anti-semitic, neo-Nazi Trash supporters see Obama as if he were thin skinned like your Orange Orge, just one of your numerous fucked up ideas.

[boutons_deux]

When Donald's Anti-Japanese Comments Came Back to Haunt Him

Donald Trump made a habit (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ilanbenmeir/that-time-in-1988-trump-told-oprah-what-was-wrong-with-ameri?utm_term=.uwy80w8JA#.sb9daJdV2) of bashing Japan (https://www.buzzfeed.com/ilanbenmeir/that-time-trump-spent-nearly-100000-on-an-ad-criticizing-us?utm_term=.ltnYEMY0l#.wy4YzwYjr) when the island nation was an economic juggernaut in the 1980s—a habit he's even continued (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/08/business/international/unease-after-trump-depicts-tokyo-as-an-economic-rival.html) into the 2016 campaign despite Japan's long economic slump (http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-japan-economy/). In one of his books, 1990's Surviving at the Top, he even told a lengthy story about how much he enjoyed throwing a superwealthy Japanese businessman out of his office. But his anti-Japanese comments came back to haunt him.

In early 1990, Trump was short of cash and many of his highly leveraged properties couldn't make enough money to keep up with their debts. Trump's struggling properties included his Atlantic City casinos—he nearly destroyed his own empire by missing an interest payment on the Trump Castle that June—and Trump's beloved Plaza Hotel in New York, which he'd once called a "Mona Lisa (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trumps-art-of-the-fail-213578)" in a full-page open letter in the New York Times. Seeking to save the Plaza from bankruptcy, Trump went to Japan to court potential partners who might buy half the hotel, the Washington Post's Michael Kranish and Marc Fisher write in their new book, Trump Revealed.

But Japanese businessmen weren't having any of it. Japanese buyers had once snapped up condos in Trump's buildings. But between Trump's xenophobic rhetoric, public marital problems, and increasingly shaky finances, their interest was cooling.

"He sweet-talks the Japanese buyers and then criticizes them in New York," a Tokyo real estate agent told the [I]Wall Street Journal (https://github.com/ConfuddledPenguin/CS412---Wall-Street-Journal-Searcher/blob/master/Split%20Files/WSJ_0622/WSJ_0622.127) that June.

"Japanese investors aren't stupid. (unlike Trash's current supporters) They know what's going on."

A banker told Newsweek (http://www.newsweek.com/trump-fall-206414) the same month that potential Japanese buyers once "would tell us, 'We want something in a Trump building. We don't care what it costs.' Now, forget it. They don't like the publicity."

"Trump came home, no investor in sight, the Plaza's debt mounting," Kranish and Fisher write.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/trump-files-when-donalds-xenophobia-cost-him-millions

Trash is very fucking stupid, ignorant, like his supporters.

[Pelicans78]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/politics/ted-cruz-endorses-donald-trump/index.html
cruz expected to support trump!

Politically he should have supported him at the convention even though Trump made it personal. He should have learned from Nixon in 1964 who supported a more unpopular candidate in Goldwater which put him in a favorable spot with the party elites.

[ducks]

Scott Lincicome ‏@scottlincicome · 2h2 hours ago

New Politico poll on #TPP:
Support: 11%
Oppose: 18%
Never heard or read *anything* abt it: 70%
[url]h


http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/morning-trade/2016/09/americans-say-tpp-who-216487

[ducks]

Why does it have to be revenge, to you rightwingnuts?

Reasonable, serious people do not want Trash anywhere near the WH, and Obama certainly qualifies.

You racist, bigoted, anti-semitic, neo-Nazi Trash supporters see Obama as if he were thin skinned like your Orange Orge, just one of your numerous fucked up ideas.


they are reasonable and serious people that want trump to win

they are reasonable and serious people that want johnson to win

they are reasonable and serious people that want clinton to win

they are reasonable and serious people that want the other candiates to win to

[boutons_deux]

Krazy Kruz opens wide and swallows orange dick, not that his voters GAFS.

Ted Cruz’s ex-roommate ridicules his ‘calculated’ Trump endorsement: He has ‘defeated himself’

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/ted-cruzs-ex-roommate-ridicules-his-calculated-trump-endorsement-he-has-defeated-himself/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[ducks]

Netanyahu to meet with Clinton, Trump on Sunday

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/politics/netanyahu-to-meet-with-clinton-trump-on-sunday/index.html

[CosmicCowboy]

Cruz running scared. He's reading the polls. Rick Perry could beat him easily if he decides to run against him in 1018 and Castro is almost running even.

[boutons_deux]

Trash is grifter, shaking down the country

Your Taxes Are Literally Paying Trump to Run for President

Trump's latest filing reveals that his airline profits every time he flies with a U.S. Secret Service agent.

A new filing by the Trump campaign for the Federal Election Committee reveals the campaign has received $1.6 million in taxpayer money to fly U.S. Secret Service agents on a plane owned by—you guessed it—Donald Trump.

According to Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-secret-service-campaign-travel-payments-228553), the agency always reimburses presidential candidates and other officials for the cost of traveling with the candidates. The difference is although the Secret Service has reimbursed the Clinton campaign some $2.6 million, Trump owns the plane he travels on through TAG Air Inc. As Politico notes, “the government is effectively paying him.”

"It's just another example of how the Trump campaign has taken an unprecedentedly large amount of its money and spent it at Trump-owned facilities,"

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/707358990485815296/photo/1

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/us-government-literally-paying-trump-run-president

What a slimebag

[ducks]

Yes u are

[CosmicCowboy]

Trash is grifter, shaking down the country

Your Taxes Are Literally Paying Trump to Run for President

Trump's latest filing reveals that his airline profits every time he flies with a U.S. Secret Service agent.

A new filing by the Trump campaign for the Federal Election Committee reveals the campaign has received $1.6 million in taxpayer money to fly U.S. Secret Service agents on a plane owned by—you guessed it—Donald Trump.

According to Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-secret-service-campaign-travel-payments-228553), the agency always reimburses presidential candidates and other officials for the cost of traveling with the candidates. The difference is although the Secret Service has reimbursed the Clinton campaign some $2.6 million, Trump owns the plane he travels on through TAG Air Inc. As Politico notes, “the government is effectively paying him.”

"It's just another example of how the Trump campaign has taken an unprecedentedly large amount of its money and spent it at Trump-owned facilities,"

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/707358990485815296/photo/1

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/us-government-literally-paying-trump-run-president

What a slimebag

Headline should read "trump saves secret service one million dollars compared to Hillary."

[Reck]

Headline should read "trump saves secret service one million dollars compared to Hillary."

Seriously? LOL

Trump has the secret service detailing Ivanka now. Someone who's not even fucking running.

http://www.newser.com/story/231354/secret-service-now-protecting-ivanka-trump.html

[ducks]

Clinton Campaign: Hillary Would Sign 9/11 Bill if She Were president

[ducks]

"The fact an IT staffer maintaining Clinton's secret server called a new retention policy designed to delete emails after 60 days a 'Hillary coverup operation' suggests there was a concerted effort to systematically destroy potentially incriminating information," Trump spokesman Jason Miller said in a statement. "It's no wonder that at least five individuals tied to the email scandal, including Clinton's top State Department aide and attorney Cheryl Mills, secured immunity deals from the Obama Justice Department to avoid prosecution."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/politics/fbi-investigation-hillary-clinton-emails/index.html

[ducks]

Latest: Trump campaign to spend $140 million more on ads
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/latest-clinton-runs-ad-trumps-remarks-women-101142984--election.html

[Reck]

Latest: Trump campaign to spend $140 million more on ads
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/latest-clinton-runs-ad-trumps-remarks-women-101142984--election.html

Basically they are emptying all their coffers.

I think that's all they actually have to spend.

Also this is a beauty:

The campaign is targeting key battleground states like Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Pennsylvania, along with Michigan, Maine, New Mexico, Wisconsin and others.

What a waste of money. :lol

Florida, Ohio and NC is where you want to unload. No wonder people dont want to donate to Trump. They know he'll spend it on stupid places that makes no sense at all.

[hitmanyr2k]

Is he running for revenge?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htt91G2qDwM

I said the same thing 2 months ago and referenced that exact moment :lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262379&page=4&p=8681236&viewfull=1#post8681236


I think this is the moment Trump decided he was going to run for President. He's built himself up in his mind and his fragile ego couldn't take this vicious mocking by Obama as he was reduced to a joke in front of all of those people. I think Obama's line "these are the decisions that would keep me up at night" was telling. Just hours after he slayed Trump he ordered the hit on Bin Laden in Pakistan

[ElNono]

lmao Cruz and peeps that thought the dude had any integrity.... brb, gonna go get a few laughs at redstate.com...

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump is still a birther: He said Obama is a U.S. citizen “to get on with the campaign”

Less than a week after (we thought) he'd definitively declared Obama a U.S. citizen, Trump says he was just kidding

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/22/donald-trump-i-only-said-obama-is-a-u-s-citizen-to-get-on-with-the-campaign/

Trash havin' fun fuckin with USA. Fuck this shitbag and fuck all his trashy supporters.

[Splits]

lmao Cruz and peeps that thought the dude had any integrity.... brb, gonna go get a few laughs at redstate.com...

:lol

Glenn Beck has a sad :cry https://www.facebook.com/GlennBeck/posts/10154578878363188

[Splits]

"only" 22%
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtF0lK3VUAABTwN.jpg

[Reck]

"only" 22%
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtF0lK3VUAABTwN.jpg

Who the fuck are these people?

Not one stat has a positive outlook on a Trump presidency. Fucking narcissists.

[Splits]

Who the fuck are these people?

Not one stat has a positive outlook on a Trump presidency. Fucking narcissists.

This is the half that are deplorables.

http://www.fxtribune.com/images/haberler/meet_donald_trumps_basket_of_deplorables_toronto_s tar_m6.jpg

[spurraider21]

Donald Trump is still a birther: He said Obama is a U.S. citizen “to get on with the campaign”

Less than a week after (we thought) he'd definitively declared Obama a U.S. citizen, Trump says he was just kidding

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/22/donald-trump-i-only-said-obama-is-a-u-s-citizen-to-get-on-with-the-campaign/

Trash havin' fun fuckin with USA. Fuck this shitbag and fuck all his trashy supporters.





"he says he was just kidding"

LOL salon, what a piece of shit site

[DMX7]

it's disqualifying for Gary Johnson to have not known what Aleppo is. He needs to drop out.

[hater]

it's disqualifying for Gary Johnson to have not known what Aleppo is. He needs to drop out.

Hes a true libertarian because of that fact. Only legiimate candidate besides Trump

[DMX7]

Hes a true libertarian because of that fact. Only legiimate candidate besides Trump

Being libertarian doesn't mean being utterly clueless about major world affairs.

[hater]

Being libertarian doesn't mean being utterly clueless about major world affairs.

Thats actually the definition of libertarians IMo

[rmt]

Back from my aunt's funeral and Trump's down from when I left. C'mon, you Colorado Ted Cruz people - Trump NEEDS NH or CO.

[Reck]

Back from my aunt's funeral and Trump's down from when I left. C'mon, you Colorado Ted Cruz people - Trump NEEDS NH or CO.

Sorry to hear that.

Wont find concellation in Colorado or New Hampshire though.

[Winehole23]

No chief executive at the nation’s 100 largest companies had donated to Republican Donald Trump’s presidential campaign through August, a sharp reversal from 2012, when nearly a third of the CEOs of Fortune 100 companies supported GOP nominee Mitt Romney.http://www.wsj.com/articles/no-fortune-100-ceos-back-republican-donald-trump-1474671842

[ducks]

trump within 2 in a 4 way race in pen
http://www.mcall.com/news/local/elections/

[boutons_deux]

Eric Trump: My father started with 'just about nothing'
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/politics/eric-trump-donald-trump-american-dream/index.html

... but looks like he'll lose the WH but make campaign profit stealing, grifting, defrauding.

[boutons_deux]

More evidence that Trash is absolutely an establishment Repug

Trump Tax Plan Revealed To Be A Fraud That Would Cost Trillions And Benefit The Top 1%

The conservative-leaning Tax Foundation has evaluated Donald Trump's tax plan and found that the plan would cost the US trillions of dollars and grow the incomes of the top one percent by 10%-16%.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/19/trump-tax-plan-revealed-fraud-cost-trillions-benefit-top-1.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[ducks]

Dem Andrew Stein Endorses Trump

[boutons_deux]

Hillary Clinton Turns The Tables As Foundation Scandal Sinks Donald Trump

The script has flipped as Hillary Clinton is demanding that Donald Trump releases his tax returns after a new report found that the Republican nominee illegally used funds from his charitable foundation to settle lawsuits.

http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/trump-clinton-5-701x394.jpg

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/20/hillary-clinton-turns-tables-foundation-scandal-sinks-donald-trump.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[ducks]

Is that article a month old to Boutons?

[boutons_deux]

how do you like the shit prepared and eaten when Trash loses?

[boutons_deux]

Mike Pence Just Gave The Dumbest And Most Dangerous Answer Of The Entire Campaign

When asked how Trump's plan to profile immigrants would work, Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence gave an answer that was both incredibly dumb and dangerous to the country.

"Well, I think it’s all about common sense.

Donald Trump and I talk to law enforcement officers every day on the campaign trail, and I’m proud that my running mate and I have been endorsed by the largest police officers union in the United States, three hundred and thirty thousand strong, Fraternal Order of Police, but talking with law enforcement officers, they’ll tell you that today they feel like

they operate in an environment of political correctness :lol

where they can’t use common sense to target their resources and target their energies against individuals who would be most likely a potential threat to our families and the safety of our communities."

O’Donnell asked Pence if profiling can violate rights. He answered, “Well, of course, it can,” and then talked more about the importance of common sense.

under Donald Trump, the “common sense” of the president overrides the constitutional rights and protections of the American people.

Gov. Pence’s answer wasn’t just idiotic.

Pence expressed a form of idiocy that presents a danger to fundamental individual rights that are the backbone of the republic.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/20/mike-pence-gave-dumbest-dangerous-answer-entire-campaign.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[boutons_deux]

Trash's supporters are 100% full Nazi brownshirts.

The Vile, Anti-Semitic, ‘Brownshirt-y’ War of Trump Supporters Against Journalists

“MAYBE A FEW JOURNALISTS DO NEED TO BE WHACKED...MAYBE THEN THEYD STOP BEI[N]G BIASED HACKS. KILL EM ALL STARTING W/ KATY TUR.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/21/vile-anti-semitic-brownshirt-y-war-trump-supporters-journalists.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

And you Trash supporters support the brownshirts, the white supremacy, the racism, xenophobia, misogyny

[boutons_deux]

Trump's outright lies in one week—31—a generous undercount (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/25/1574103/-Trump-s-outright-lies-in-one-week-31-a-generous-undercount)

The New York Times has clearly turned a corner on its Donald Trump coverage, now fully embracing the word "lie" to describe the geyser of falsehoods that gush from him. Between Sept.15-21, its reporters counted what the paper called his "Week of Whoppers (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/24/us/elections/donald-trump-statements.html?&hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region%C2%AEion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news)" and found 31 biggies. But that was clearly a generous undercount.

This total excludes dozens more:

Untruths that appeared to be mere hyperbole or humor, or delivered purely for effect, or

what could generously be called rounding errors.

Mr. Trump’s campaign, which dismissed this compilation as “silly,” offered responses on every point, but in none of the following instances did the responses support his assertions.


Among the 31 that made the cut, Trump most frequently lied about his Iraq War position (five times) and mischaracterized Hillary Clinton's (and President Obama's) immigration policies (four times). Here's one example:

He said Mrs. Clinton is calling for “total amnesty in the first 100 days,” including “a virtual end to immigration enforcement” and for unauthorized immigrants to receive Social Security and Medicare.


In other words, Trump’s desperate need to be right (about the war) and his efforts to rally racists and xenophobes to his side dominate his lie-fests.

Next up: The Times should try counting how many truths Trump actually tells in any given speech. If you take away his outright lies, his exaggerations and hyperbole, and his policy pronouncements that are clearly impossible to accomplish (i.e. deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants), my suspicion is that his lies would consistently outnumber his truths in any given speech.


UPDATE: The Trump lie-o-meter continues


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"Trump averaged about one falsehood every 3 minutes and 15 seconds over nearly 5 hours of remarks."

—@POLITICOMag (https://twitter.com/POLITICOMag)http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/2016-donald-trump-fact-check-week-214287 … (https://t.co/6SsafxBSa6)



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/09/25/1574103/-Trump-s-outright-lies-in-one-week-31-a-generous-undercount?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

"Sad. So Sad" :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

One of you amateur legal experts needs to explain this "scandal" to me. A judge ordered a charitable donation to settle a complaint. That donation is tax deductible. He transferred funds from one charitable foundation where he had already taken a tax deduction. The transfer of funds from one charitable organization to another was not tax deductible, so it only got deducted once. Why would the IRS care?

[Spurminator]

I'm just trying to imagine an alternate universe where Donald Trump was Secretary of State for 4 years and the biggest scandal arising from it was a private email server.

[boutons_deux]

One of you amateur legal experts needs to explain this "scandal" to me. A judge ordered a charitable donation to settle a complaint. That donation is tax deductible. He transferred funds from one charitable foundation where he had already taken a tax deduction. The transfer of funds from one charitable organization to another was not tax deductible, so it only got deducted once. Why would the IRS care?

Go get WaPo-splained. "they started it"

[Winehole23]

I'm just trying to imagine an alternate universe where Donald Trump was Secretary of State for 4 years and the biggest scandal arising from it was a private email server.Peddling access to the US Secretary of State through the Clinton Foundation might have overshadowed HRC's email shenanigans, if the GOP hadn't been crying wolf for five straight years over Benghazi.

For better and for worse, the electorate seems completely desensitized to corruption apparent or actual -- a predictable side effect of 25 years of fake outrage, frivolous scandal-mongering and cheap cynicism.

[Th'Pusher]

One of you amateur legal experts needs to explain this "scandal" to me. A judge ordered a charitable donation to settle a complaint. That donation is tax deductible. He transferred funds from one charitable foundation where he had already taken a tax deduction. The transfer of funds from one charitable organization to another was not tax deductible, so it only got deducted once. Why would the IRS care?

The long and short of it is that the debt was Mar-a-Lagos' and he used his charitable foundation to settle the debt.

[Spurminator]

Peddling access to the US Secretary of State through the Clinton Foundation might have overshadowed HRC's email shenanigans, if the GOP hadn't been crying wolf for five straight years over Benghazi.

For better and for worse, the electorate seems completely desensitized to corruption apparent or actual -- a predictable side effect of 25 years of fake outrage, frivolous scandal-mongering and cheap cynicism.

A fair point, but even including the Foundation, I can't imagine a Trump Secretaryship being without similar (or worse) scandal.

I might be guilty of desensitization as well, and without sounding like I'm defending her, I think a lot of this is a result of her being the highest-positioned Presidential candidate since Al Gore 16 years ago when the world was, frankly, much different.

We're used to candidates with much lower-stakes experience. Senators, etc. I'd have a hard time imagining any former Secretary of State having a high "trustworthy" rating.

[ducks]

Trump gets it right on Jerusalem
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/opinions/trump-israel-policy-greenblatt/

[Reck]

Trump gets it right on Jerusalem
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/opinions/trump-israel-policy-greenblatt/

Is Trump being a docile dog when he comes across world leaders again?

He did it with the Mexican president. With Egypts president and now this guy? :lol

[ducks]

Is Trump being a docile dog when he comes across world leaders again?

He did it with the Mexican president. With Egypts president and now this guy? :lol

Do u know he raised 5 million the day he went to Mexico

[Reck]

Do u know he raised 5 million the day he went to Mexico

Just 5? How many did Hillary raise? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Kellyanne Conway squirms under intense questioning from ‘Morning Joe’ panel trying to explain Trump ‘lie’

Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway went onto Morning Joe on Monday and likely expected an easy interview.Instead, she found herself getting grilled by both Mark Halperin and Mika Brzezinski about

Trump’s factually incorrect claim that debate moderator Lester Holt is a registered Democrat, when in reality,

Holt is a registered Republican.
“He made a factual claim about the moderator, who deserves to be treated fairly, and it was just wrong,” said Halperin. “And it’s a metaphor for his frequently, in public, stating things with no basis.”

“I think it’s a terrible and irrelevant example,” Conway shot back, before proceeding to completely dodge Halperin’s question.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/kellyanne-conway-squirms-under-intense-questioning-from-morning-joe-panel-trying-to-explain-trump-lie/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Hey, Halperin, look up the definition of "metaphor"

Trash's team "appalled" by Matt "super-softball" Lauer? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump and the Return of Seditious Libel

so offended Britain’s royal governor of New York and New Jersey, William Cosby, that Cosby brought suit against Zenger for

seditious libel — the crime of criticizing the government.

Under the law then in effect in Britain and its colonies,

truth was not a defense to this charge.

The leading legal treatise of the day explained that “since the greater appearance there is of truth in any malicious invective, so much the more provoking it is.” And: “The malicious prosecution of even truth itself cannot… be suffered to interrupt the tranquility of a well-ordered society.” This was deemed especially the case with true attacks on those in power, as they would have “a direct tendency to breed in the people a dislike of their governors and incline them to faction and sedition.” :lol Holy Shit

Trump is more hostile to the legal and constitutional rights of the press than any major presidential candidate of the last two centuries.

What he proposes is reminiscent of the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 championed (to his immortal disgrace) by President John Adams in the last serious attempt to relitigate at the federal level what had seemed resolved in the Zenger case.

Trump has said that most reporters are “absolute dishonest, absolute scum.”

He’s said that “I think the media is among the most dishonest groups of people I’ve ever met. They’re terrible.”

In February he pledged (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/27/trump-freedom-press-not-people.html) that “one of the things I’m gonna do if I win, and I hope that I do, and we’re certainly leading, is

I’m gonna open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money.

We’re gonna open up those libel laws.

Nor is a threat by Trump to sue for libel an idle one. In 2006 he brought such a suit against a book that asserted he had wildly overstated his wealth. He lost the case on the merits as well as for failure to prove fault. But the Washington Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/that-time-trump-sued-over-the-size-of-hiswallet/2016/03/08/785dee3e-e4c2-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html) that “Trump said in an interview that he knew he couldn’t win the suit but brought it anyway to make a point. ‘I spent a couple of bucks on legal fees, and they spent a whole lot more. I did it to make [author Tim O’Brien’s] life miserable, which I’m happy about.’

“It is not ‘freedom of the press’ when newspapers and others are allowed to say and write whatever they want even if it is completely false!”

Melania Trump’s libel lawyer ... New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, the 1964 Supreme Court decision that established modern press protections, should be overruled (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/ailes-media-litigator-charles-harder-930963).

https://www.propublica.org/article/donald-trump-and-the-return-of-seditious-libel?utm_campaign=sprout&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=1474891900

[boutons_deux]

New Hillary Clinton Ad Calls Out Donald Trump’s ‘Seven Deadly Lies’

"The video..highlights the most outrageous his 'Seven Deadly Lies,'" including his biggest lie of all: that "I will never lie to you"


1. “I was always against the war in Iraq”

2. “I would have stayed out of Libya”

3. When the World Trade Center came down, I watched “thousand and thousands” of people cheering

4. Hillary “has pledged to create totally open borders for the United States”

5. “President Obama is the founder of ISIS”6. “Mexico is going to pay for the wall”And the deadliest (and most obvious) lie of all,

7. “I will never lie to you”

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/26/hillary-clinton-ad-calls-donald-trumps-seven-deadly-lies.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Crooked Hillary? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trash's people are as trashy as he is. So many flies attracted to that shit.

Ex-Cop Who Flew Pence To Rallies Let Go After Violent Crime Charges Surface

Retired police officer Vincent Caldara last year pleaded not guilty to a charge of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon for allegedly, intentionally ramming a former colleague with his car, leaving the colleague with serious physical injuries and over $200,000 in medical bills, according to The Guardian.

Caldara’s former business associate Jeff Shanley said Caldara repeatedly struck him with his vehicle, forcing him to undergo two surgeries and leaving him unable to bend his right hand.

In another incident, a woman sued Caldara for driving his Harley-Davidson motorcycle into her, causing her serious physical harm.

Caldara appeared with Trump at an event in Fort Myers as recently as last week, and spoke on his behalf at a campaign event in Cocoa Beach earlier in September, where he praised the real estate mogul as the “law and order candidate.” ( iow RACIST )

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/vincent-caldara-trump-campaign-eastern-air-lines?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump denied visit to civil rights museum after campaign “bullied” staff with “special requests”

A civil rights museum in North Carolina rejected a request to visit from Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump after the businessman’s campaign was “aggressive and rude” to museum staff.


Greensboro’s WFMY first reported (http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/local/civil-rights-museum-denies-request-by-trump-campaign-special-request/325172910) on The International Civil Rights Center and Museum’s decision to deny Trump’s request to visit during his campaign swing through the battleground state last week. Co-founder Earl Jones explained that the Trump campaign had demanded “special requests” that the museum could not grant, such as the facility remaining closed to the public for at least five hours to accommodate the Republican candidate.

“We have equal treatment for everyone coming to the museum,” Jones told WFMY, adding that his staff was contacted by the Trump campaign to plan a visit for last Tuesday, when the Republican presidential nominee would be in town for a separate speech. “We did not honor the request of the Donald Trump team because we thought [what its members] demonstrated in their approach was disrespectful, so therefore we did not grant that request.”

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/26/trump-denied-visit-to-civil-rights-museum-after-campaign-bullied-staff-with-special-requests/

Trash and his trashy staff, reaching out to blacks.

[boutons_deux]

Is Trump’s shady charity finally a political issue? Experts say Trump Foundation is in serious trouble

Legal experts say the Trump Foundation took advantage of lax nonprofit regulations and repeatedly broke the rules

After many baffling weeks buried other news, the shady dealings of Donald Trump’s charitable nonprofit, the Trump Foundation, are finally emerging as a major political story.

Experts whom I have spoken to say the Trump Foundation’s actions, as reported by the Post, looked like pretty clear violations of laws governing charitable spending and that Trump and his charity are probably looking at fines and sanctions, with still more severe punishments possible.

Trump has already been punished by the IRS for his foundation’s suspiciously timed contribution (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/us/politics/pam-bondi-donald-trump-foundation.html) to a political action committee supporting Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, who had been considering opening an investigation into fraud allegations against Trump University when the Trump Foundation cut the PAC a $25,000 check. The IRS apparently impelled Trump to pay a 10 percent excise tax on the donation (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/01/trump-pays-irs-a-penalty-for-his-foundation-violating-rules-with-gift-to-florida-attorney-general/) — $2,500 — and Trump claims that he reimbursed the foundation for the full $25,000.

But the Trump Foundation is also under scrutiny for allegations of self-dealing:

using foundation funds to settle lawsuits against Trump’s business interests and

to purchase items that were used for business or personal reasons,

including paintings of Trump and

a football helmet signed by right-wing culture hero Tim Tebow.

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman’s office, which handles oversight of New York-based charities like the Trump Foundation, has announced its opening of an investigation (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/new-york-attorney-general-opens-inquiry-into-trump-foundation-228125) into “troubling transactions that have recently come to light.”

“Part of what goes along with the low level of enforcement is that most charities are really trying their best to do the right thing,”

the proliferation of misconduct allegations against the Trump Foundation, Sugin said, “possibly reflects a greater problem, which is perhaps that Donald Trump doesn’t have enough respect for the rule of law.”

“What’s particularly unusual is the pattern of behavior, assuming all the allegations are true.”

The Trump Foundation seems to have repeatedly broken basic, longstanding rules governing how charitable funds can be spent — rules that officials at the charity absolutely should have known about. “They were definitely being very sloppy,” Mayer said. “And I’d be very interested to know who their lawyers and accountants were, because they should have been telling them ‘Don’t do this.’”

The IRS could fine Trump, force him to pay taxes on contributions that are determined to be self-dealing and require that he reimburse the foundation. As TPM’s Tierney Sneed has reported (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/trump-foundation-self-dealing-legal-violations), if the IRS finds a flagrant pattern of self-dealing, it “has the authority to terminate the private foundation by way of taxing the charity the entirety of its worth.”

he brought all this trouble on himself. The allegations of self-dealing by Trump Foundation might have escaped the notice of light-touch regulators had Trump not run for president. But he stuck his head up and made himself one of the most visible people in the world, thus inviting reporters to scrutinize every shady facet of his public life.

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/26/is-trumps-shady-charity-finally-a-political-issue-experts-say-trump-foundation-is-in-serious-trouble/

child rapist, adulterer, fraudulent university scam, importing foreingers to work for poverty wages, ignoring foundation regulations/self-dealing, etc, etc. Just what you rightwingnuts want for President.

btw, these are not bogus charges, like Repugs/right-wing-hate-media are witch-hunting Hillary with.

[Axl Rose]

Y'all hear that rustling? It's happening bouts, embrace it

[boutons_deux]

...

[boutons_deux]

CNN panel goes off the rails after Trump surrogate mocks Hillary Clinton’s figure

the Donald Trump surrogate suggested he wouldn’t like to see Hillary Clinton wearing yoga pants.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/cnn-panel-goes-off-the-rails-after-trump-surrogate-mocks-hillary-clintons-figure/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

goddam, Trash's people are pure trash.

[CosmicCowboy]

damn

I can't unsee that thought.

[boutons_deux]

Trump has demonized the Latino community

it is no secret how different this election cycle has been for many Latinos in America. None of us anticipated the extent our community would be the face, and in many ways the target, of the most prominent issue of this election season: immigration.

Led by Donald Trump, the tone of 2016’s immigration discussion has managed to cast aspersions well beyond those personally affected by immigration policy to include attacks on the Latino community as a whole.

From denigrating Mexican Americans as “criminals, rapists, and drug dealers” to questioning the integrity of an American judge based solely on his Latino heritage, Trump has demonized our community and advanced the dark and baseless notion that Latinos are a threat, and not a strength, to our country.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/trump-has-demonized-the-latino-community/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[ducks]

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/297719-economists-have-a-message-clintons-policies-are
Clinton's policies are wrong for America

[boutons_deux]

This Looks Real Big

We're still piecing the details of David Fahrenthold's latest story (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-directed-23-million-owed-to-him-to-his-charity-instead/2016/09/26/7a9e9fac-8352-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html?postshare=1474923050077&tid=ss_tw) at the Post. But this seems like by far his biggest get yet. He appears to have

caught Trump in major tax evasion using his charity.

Tax evasion on the back end, self-dealing on the front.

That makes the whole entity look like a tax dodge.

Let me jump through the outline details.

Last week we noted that a Trump family aide defended the idea (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-life) that Trump Foundation money is really Trump's money since often he takes money that's owed to him and directs it to the Foundation. That's laudable if true. But it's irrelevant in terms of whose money it is.

Once Trump gives money to his Foundation it's the Foundation's money and all those rules apply.

Now it turns out that a lot of the Foundation money does come in just this way. But here's the key. It sounds like Trump is not paying taxes on that income.

It works like this. Trump or one of his businesses is owed money by Company X or Person Y. Trump says

'Don't send the check to me. Just send it to my Foundation.' No problem with that. As I said, as long as your foundation is legit, it's laudable.

But you have to pay taxes on that money because it's your income.

Here's where it gets weird. Fahrenthold got a series of false explanations from Trump representative Boris Epshteyn about how this money was handled. When Fahrenthold presented Epshteyn with proof of these diversions, Epshteyn shifted gears and said the diversions did happen but they were fine.

At this point, Epshteyn cited an obscure 1942 tax case which seems not to apply to the facts in Trump's case. Here's that passage in the Post's piece ...


Instead, Epshteyn put forward a different explanation. Trump, he said, had never done what Patton described.Instead, Epshteyn said, Trump had all along been following the dictates of an obscure 1942 court case, which he cited by name: Commissioner of Internal Revenue v. Giannini (https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5200464440872304193&hl=en&as_sdt=6&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr).

That case involved a San Francisco bank president who had decided he had been paid enough and renounced the rest of his salary for the year. The bank gave his money to the University of California instead. The court held that the bank president didn’t have to pay taxes on that money, because he hadn’t controlled where it went.

Trump, Epshteyn said, was just like that. He had not exercised control over where his money went. Indeed, Epshteyn said, when Trump helped someone, he never asked specifically for a gift to the Donald J. Trump Foundation — but rather suggested a gift to some charity, somewhere.

But sometimes, Epshteyn said, a gift arrived at the Trump Foundation.

“He’s Donald J. Trump,” Epshteyn said, explaining why donors had chosen this particular charity.

Under the set-up that Epshteyn described, tax experts said, Trump might have escaped paying income taxes on donations to the Trump Foundation — as long as he truly had no influence over where the money went.


Now here's where my assumption comes in. I'm pretty certain that if Trump had paid taxes, there'd be no need to cite this case.

The tax experts the Post talked to (we're talking to our own right now) seem to think it's pretty open and shut that Trump needed to pay taxes.

At length, Epshteyn said Trump did pay tax on a major appearance fee from Comedy Central. But when asked for proof, he refused to give any.

Here's where it gets interested. As one former prosecutor notes in the piece, for Trump to face criminal penalties prosecutors would need to prove he knew he was violating the law. But there's another dimension of this.

We already have pretty clear evidence that Trump practiced self-dealing on what the Foundation chose to contribute to.

And that all adds up to the Trump Foundation looking like a big tax evasion scheme - not just a poorly run family foundation that didn't follow all the rules.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/this-looks-real-big?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

Benghazi! :lol

emails! :lol

[boutons_deux]

Exclusive: Russian-Born Oil Magnate Gives Big to Trump Victory

Simon Grigorievich Kukes, former chief executive of a now-defunct Russian state-owned oil company, who contributed more than $150,000 to Trump’s campaign and joint fundraising committee, Trump Victory (http://www.opensecrets.org/jfc/top.php?type=C&cycle=2016).

This is the first election cycle he has contributed, according to FEC documents.

Kukes gave $2,700 directly to Trump’s campaign in March, and then a total of $149,000 to Trump Victory in June and July; another $2,700 of that went to Trump directly, while the remainder was divided between the Republican National Committee’s main account, its convention account and its headquarters account.

Kukes has another link with Trump: He bought a five-room condominium at Trump Parc in Midtown West for $1.7 million in 2000, according to the Observer (http://observer.com/about/), (which is published by Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law.)

Trump isn’t the only beneficiary of Kukes’ funds: He also contributed the max (http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.php?name=simon+kukes&cycle=2016&sort=R&state=&zip=&employ=&cand=&submit=Submit) to Elizabeth Cheney’s campaign for Wyoming’s congressional seat in June. Cheney is the daughter of former vice president Dick Cheney.

Neither Kukes nor the Trump campaign had responded to requests for comment at the time of publication.

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/exclusive-russian-born-oil-magnate-gives-big-to-trump-victory/

[HarlemHeat37]

I've been riding for Trump, but smh, how are you gonna fuck with Don King as your conduit to us? I hope an advisor got fired for that, tbh..

[CosmicCowboy]

Exclusive: Russian-Born Oil Magnate Gives Big to Trump Victory

Simon Grigorievich Kukes, former chief executive of a now-defunct Russian state-owned oil company, who contributed more than $150,000 to Trump’s campaign and joint fundraising committee, Trump Victory (http://www.opensecrets.org/jfc/top.php?type=C&cycle=2016).

This is the first election cycle he has contributed, according to FEC documents.

Kukes gave $2,700 directly to Trump’s campaign in March, and then a total of $149,000 to Trump Victory in June and July; another $2,700 of that went to Trump directly, while the remainder was divided between the Republican National Committee’s main account, its convention account and its headquarters account.

Kukes has another link with Trump: He bought a five-room condominium at Trump Parc in Midtown West for $1.7 million in 2000, according to the Observer (http://observer.com/about/), (which is published by Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law.)

Trump isn’t the only beneficiary of Kukes’ funds: He also contributed the max (http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.php?name=simon+kukes&cycle=2016&sort=R&state=&zip=&employ=&cand=&submit=Submit) to Elizabeth Cheney’s campaign for Wyoming’s congressional seat in June. Cheney is the daughter of former vice president Dick Cheney.

Neither Kukes nor the Trump campaign had responded to requests for comment at the time of publication.

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/exclusive-russian-born-oil-magnate-gives-big-to-trump-victory/




What's your point, boo?

[boutons_deux]

What's your point, boo?

Why do I have to have a point?

Why do you ask? do you really GAF?

[CosmicCowboy]

Why do I have to have a point?

Why do you ask? do you really GAF?

Are you racist against people of Russian heritage? Are they not allowed to exercise their right to make political contributions?

[ducks]

Clinton's Top 5 Lies Of The Night
https://gop.com/clintons-top-5-lies-of-the-night/

[spurraider21]

I've been riding for Trump, but smh, how are you gonna fuck with Don King as your conduit to us? I hope an advisor got fired for that, tbh..
herd mentality tbh

[Splits]

Big League Trouble: Trump Faces New Questions About His Charity Finances

ByTIERNEY SNEED (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/profile/tierney)PublishedSEPTEMBER 27, 2016, 5:51 PM EDT

It’s not just where the money went from the Donald Trump Foundation that’s drawing scrutiny to GOP nominee. It’s also how the money came in.

A new Washington Post report (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-directed-23-million-owed-to-him-to-his-charity-instead/2016/09/26/7a9e9fac-8352-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html) this week presented cases where Trump directed third parties to pay monies owed to him or his businesses directly to the Donald J. Trump Foundation--monies that arguably should have been taxed as income to Trump.

The Trump campaign has said that the payments were all aboveboard and proper, and slammed the Post's reporter for trafficking in speculation about possible but not proven legal problems. All of this comes against the backdrop of Trump refusing to release his tax returns, a stance unprecedented among modern major party presidential nominees. Without those tax returns, the exact handling of the payments and any associated taxes remains murky.

But tax experts interviewed by TPM said the new revelations by the Post include a number of red flags. At best, the practice could be described as sloppy and driven by an extreme ignorance of the law, the experts said. At worst, it fits into a pattern of using the charity as a personal piggy bank. On their own, such allegations could be dealt with a minor slap on the wrist, but coupled with the Post’s previously surfaced examples (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-used-258000-from-his-charity-to-settle-legal-problems/2016/09/20/adc88f9c-7d11-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html)of Trump using foundation money for his own benefit they fuel major concerns about how Trump’s charity has operated.

Seth Perlman of Perlman and Perlman, a New York City firm that specializes in nonprofit law, said that accusations that Trump was illegally directing fees to his charity are tough to prove and not totally unheard of in the non-profit world.

"It becomes really troubling, however, if he was diverting or pushing fees to a nonprofit and using those fees to benefit himself. That becomes a much more serious problem," Perlman said.

One former IRS regulator told TPM that, taken all together, the financial dealings surrounding the foundation would have forced him to “give some serious thought” to recommending a criminal investigation into the foundation’s practices.

“Once you see a pattern of that kind of egregious nature, you start to think if whether there’s an appropriate criminal referral there,” said Philip Hackney, a Louisiana State University Law Center professor who previously served in the IRS’ Office of the Chief Counsel as a senior technician reviewer for exempt organizations.

Monday's Washington Post story on third-party contributions to the Trump Foundation points to two specific cases where payments to Trump for goods and services went to the charity. In the first case, Comedy Central made a $400,000 donation in exchange for his appearance on a 2011 roast. In the second, contributions amounting to nearly $1.9 million came into the charity over time from a New York man named Richard Ebers, who two unnamed sources told the Post bought goods and services from Trump or his businesses.

“Is this is a one-off or is this something he encouraged?” asked Gordon Fischer, a lawyer in Iowa who specializes in charitable giving. “Assignment of income – that you could just give income you receive to your foundation and not pay tax on it – that’s sort of taxes 101, or at least 201. It’s a pretty basic thing.”

The major issue is that the payments identified by the Post should have been taxed as income, and the campaign has waffled in explaining exactly how Trump handled the transactions and whether they were reported as income.

First, campaign advisor Boris Epshteyn denied Trump ever directed the third party payments to his charity. Then, he said Trump did in fact follow “all applicable rules and regulations” in handling the payments. Along the way, Epshteyn cited an obscure 1942 court case where the person in question was not required to pay taxes on charitable donations made in lieu of his income. But the circumstances were far different than those surrounding Trump.

Separately, Lynne Patton, an assistant to Trump’s son Eric, who is an officer for the Eric Trump Foundation, explained at a campaign event (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2016/09/21/some-donations-trump-foundation-count-trumps-money-aide-says/90784632/)in Iowa last week that Trump will give speeches for organizations and then ask them to cut a check for his charity, rather than to him personally. The campaign disputed her characterization to the Post and finally said that taxes were paid on the Comedy Central payment. The campaign refused to elaborate on how Ebers’ contributions were handled, the Post said. As long as Trump refuses to release his personal tax returns, none of what the campaign says can be independently confirmed.

Trump himself, meanwhile, has brushed off (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-on-whether-his-foundations-followed-charity-laws-i-hope-so/) the whole affair by saying his lawyers handle the charity issues.

“I’d really like to know who those lawyers are, because they either gave him really bad advice or he didn’t listen to them,” said Lloyd Meyer, a Notre Dame Law School professor who teaches courses on not-for-profit organizations.

According to numerous tax lawyers interviewed by TPM, the way such transactions typically would be handled – if someone being paid for a good or service said they’d prefer the money go to their charity – is that the income would first be paid and reported to the person who provided the service, and then he or she could separately cut the check for their foundation.

“The proper way to do it is, Comedy Center cuts a check to Trump and then Trump runs the check to the foundation,” said Jim Fishman, a professor at The Elisabeth Haub School of Law at Pace University in New York, who teaches courses on nonprofit law.

This was just the scenario that Epshteyn outlined Tuesday on MSNBC regarding the Comedy Central while rebutting the Post’s report.

“Comedy Central paid Trump productions. Trump Productions paid income tax and donated the money to the foundation,” he said.

But the foundation’s tax return for that year shows the contribution coming directly from Comedy Central. There could be some explanation for why it was reported that way that involved Trump still paying taxes on it, but without further documentation put forward by the campaign, there's no way of knowing for sure, the experts said.
The IRS, if it chose to examine the discrepancies, could simply look at Trump's personal tax returns to answer the essential question of whether the income was properly reported and taxed. From there, it would be a simple matter of correcting the report and paying back what was owed -- and perhaps some additional civil penalties.
Taken with other allegations surrounding his charity, however, particularly the cases of “self-dealing,” where Trump used foundation money for his personal benefit, a closer look may be more appropriate.

“This is not as a clear violation as the self dealing, but it does make you wonder about how the foundation is being run,” Ellen Aprill, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles said.

Still, a criminal case would be tough to pursue, the experts said, as it requires proof of intent -- that Trump knew he was violating the law -- and ignorance is a permissible defense to tax allegations like these.

“No prosecutor would go after him for this, because it’s just too hard to prove,” Meyer said, unless there was some smoking gun, like an email, that showed Trump knew he was breaking the law.

“The pattern we are starting to see is that, he is not just pushing the envelope, he is going outside of what the law allows,” Meyer said. “He is being very aggressive in what he is doing. Maybe aggressive out of ignorance?”

A claim of ignorance also undermines the central arguments Trump has made for his candidacy: that he is an extremely successful businessman who knows how to surround himself with all the best people.

“He's a guy who is supposedly a billionaire but has run that foundation like a thousand-aire,” Fishman said.

[spurraider21]

many people are saying trump used cocaine prior to the debate

[ducks]

FOX News Channel Achieves Milestone by Delivering Its Most Watched Quarter Ever in Total Day Viewership


FNC Ranks #1 in Basic Cable in Q3 Primetime and Total Day Viewers

‘The O’Reilly Factor’ Tops Q3 Total Viewers; ‘The Kelly File’ Tops Q3 24-54 Demo

‘Hannity’ Leads Cable News 25-54 Demo in September While ‘The O’Reilly Factor’ Takes Number One in Total Viewers

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160927006447/en/FOX-News-Channel-Achieves-Milestone-Delivering-Watched

[ducks]

many people are saying trump used cocaine prior to the debatemany people are stupid

[clambake]

who you rootin for, ducks?

[spurraider21]

many people are stupid
weird, since "many people" are trump's #1 source for his "facts" and claims :lmao

[benefactor]

who you rootin for, ducks?
:lol...really?

[clambake]

:lol...really?

i love it! duck is possessed! he's on fire! ducks is all in!

[DMX7]

I thought Mr. Trump wasn't that great last night during the debate at least on most issues, but I went to Drudge and WOW, he did amazing!!! We love Drudge!

[boutons_deux]

Hillary trumped Trump: 6 conservative talking heads who say Donald bombed

Not even their hate for Hillary can compel these conservatives to say Trump won the debate

1. Hugh Hewitt: The conservative radio talk show host who frequently hammers the mainstream media for its so-called “liberal bias,” told MSNBC that Trump “blew” the last hour of the debate.

“I think Donald Trump won the first — I clocked it at 29 minutes when birtherism came up,” Hewitt said. “He blew that badly, terribly, and it turned the debate around. She then delivered a knockout blow on speaking to our strategic allies.”

2. John Podhoretz: The conservative columnist for the New York Post wrote a scathing review (http://nypost.com/2016/09/27/trumps-debate-incompetence-a-slap-in-the-face-to-his-supporters/) of Trump’s performance, calling it a “slap in the face to his supporters,” who “should be furious with him.”
Podhoretz said Trump’s “vanity and laziness” were on full display as Clinton “methodically and carefully” attacked the GOP nominee. “Even when he could have taken her down, he was so incompetent he didn’t go for it,” Podhoretz wrote.

“By performing this incompetently, by refusing to prepare properly for this exchange, by not learning enough to put meat on the bones of his populist case against Clinton, he displayed nothing but contempt for the people who have brought him this far — and for the American people who are going to make this momentous decision on Nov.
8,” Podhoretz concluded.

3. Steve Deace: Steve Deace began his slow, painful separation with the Republican Party when Trump became their nominee, but that didn’t stop the conservative Iowa talk radio host from tearing into the GOP candidate’s “total disaster” of a performance.

Deace took to Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/stevedeace/#) to lament Trump’s lack of “depth” on major policy issues and his incoherent badgering when the questions got tough. “As I warned for months, Trump simply couldn’t carry a credible conversation with the nation by himself for 90 minutes, minus a full stage of others vying for air time,” Deace wrote.

4. Bill Kristol: Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, who served as a foreign policy adviser for Sen. John McCain, tore into Trump’s debate performance with a piece bitingly titled, “Trump Choked (http://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-choked/article/2004552#.V-nfi0IFvSk.twitter).”

“I’m not positive Hillary actually won the debate,” Kristol write. “But I’m sure Trump lost it. He choked.”

5. Ben Shapiro: Conservative political commentator Ben Shapiro was seriously unimpressed with Trump’s debate performance, at one point likening it to “sharting.”


Follow (https://twitter.com/benshapiro)
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Trump won first 30 minutes. Then Hillary hurt his feelings about his business record and he whined like a small child and rambled for 60.
10:12 PM - 26 Sep 2016 (https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/780605965120909312)



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Worst moment: Trump rambling and getting petulant about Hannity and Iraq, then complimenting his own temperament to crowd's laughter.
11:02 PM - 26 Sep 2016 (https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/780618630539075584)



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Trump may not have fully pooped himself, but there was some sharting.
11:12 PM - 26 Sep 2016 (https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/780621133993299969)


6. Greg Gutfeld: Fox News host Greg Gutfeld live-tweeted his thoughts on the debate, calling it “the most disturbing 90 minutes since The Evil Dead” and goading Trump supporters to admit the candidate’s failure.

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/27/hillary-trumped-trump-6-conservative-talking-heads-who-say-donald-bombed/

[boutons_deux]

Trashy Trash supporter news

Kayleigh McEnany smears Trump-exposing Miss Universe Alicia Machado by comparing her to a terrorist

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/kayleigh-mcenany-smears-trump-exposing-miss-universe-alicia-machado-by-comparing-her-to-a-terrorist/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Wall Street Climbs In Wake Of First Presidential Face-off

Consumer and technology stocks, including Amazon, led gains on Wall Street on Tuesday, while a perceived win by Democrat Hillary Clinton in Monday’s first presidential debate gave broader support to equities.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/wall-street-climbs-wake-first-presidential-face-off/

[boutons_deux]

Trump denies saying not paying taxes 'makes me smart' an hour after he said it (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/26/1574749/-Trump-denies-saying-not-paying-taxes-makes-me-smart-an-hour-after-he-said-it)

During the first presidential debate, during a discussion about Donald Trump (http://www.rollingstone.com/topic/donald-trump)'s refusal to release his tax returns, Hillary Clinton noted that he's "paid nothing in federal taxes" in recent years. "That makes me smart," Trump bragged.

Dana Bash (CNN): “My question for you is, first of all, it sounds like you admitted that you hadn't paid federal taxes and that that was smart. Is that what you meant to say?

Trump: “No, I didn't say that at all.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/09/27/1574749/-Trump-denies-saying-not-paying-taxes-makes-me-smart-an-hour-after-he-said-it?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

[boutons_deux]

Arizona newspaper endorses Dem for president for first time


http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/298193-arizona-newspaper-endorses-dem-for-president-for-first-time

[boutons_deux]

Trash tools trashing the fat pig Miss Universe

“The fact that his surrogates are on TV trashing another woman like this is just kind of appalling, and says everything you need to know about how the Trump campaign is operating right now.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/cmon-this-is-so-beneath-you-cnn-guest-shames-scottie-nell-hughes-for-trashing-alicia-machado/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Trash's org is garbage from top to bottom.

Trashing a beauty queen is important to Trash? What's that have to do with being President or America? WTF cares?

goddam, Trash and his people keep going lower and lower

I have no doubt that Trash, the child rapist and serial adulterer, will bring up Bill and Monica to "hit Hillary harder next debate".

[Splits]

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[Fabbs]

Trump Bots and Laker Bots.

Who are the more brainwashed?

[pgardn]

many people are stupid

Dont break the mirror duckman.

[boutons_deux]

Here's America's Asshole again, also an adulterer and stupid Trash supporter, farting noxiously in Repug reachout to women.

Giuliani: Clinton 'too stupid to be president'Rudy Giuliani blasted Hillary Clinton as "too stupid to be president" because she stayed with her husband after the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

"She didn't just stand by him -- she attacked Monica Lewinsky, and after being married to Bill Clinton for 20 years, if you didn't know the moment Monica Lewinsky said Bill Clinton violated her and was telling the truth -- then you're too stupid to be president,"
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politics/rudy-giuliani-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-monica-lewinsky/index.html

[boutons_deux]

Flashback: Trash voices reservations about invasion of Iraq

Trash comments in January, 2003 interview with Neil Cavuto

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5143548710001/flashback-trump-voices-reservations-about-invasion-of-iraq/?#sp=show-clips

[ducks]

Clinton campaign in ‘panic mode’ over Florida black voters

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-florida-black-voters-228822#ixzz4LYugbdYm
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

[boutons_deux]

Clinton campaign in ‘panic mode’ over Florida black voters

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-florida-black-voters-228822#ixzz4LYugbdYm
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

so black voters are STUPID ENOUGH to punish Clinton(s) by voting for a law-and-order, stop-and-frisk racist? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Meet the Convicted Cocaine Trafficker Donald Trump Called a 'Credit to the Community' (http://theslot.jezebel.com/meet-the-convicted-cocaine-trafficker-donald-trump-call-1787180877)

In October 1985, Joseph Weichselbaum, the general manager of the helicopter service that shuttled VIPs to and from Trump’s Atlantic City casinos, was named in an 18-count indictment accusing him of being a marijuana and cocaine trafficker.

Convicted of grand larceny and embezzlement (https://books.google.com/books?id=RX5DAD9yV7IC&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=Joseph+Weichselbaum&source=bl&ots=TgWBIGSmzo&sig=PFC8EUJYOODrqqt-dDeftf3YY-g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiIkY3iup3LAhXJmR4KHccRCf4Q6AEINjAH#v=on epage&q=Joseph%20Weichselbaum&f=false) in the ‘70s, Weichselbaum, prosecutors stated, “was a felon even before becoming a drug dealer.”

(According to Spy magazine (https://books.google.com/books?id=RX5DAD9yV7IC&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=Joseph+Weichselbaum&source=bl&ots=TgWBIGSmzo&sig=PFC8EUJYOODrqqt-dDeftf3YY-g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiIkY3iup3LAhXJmR4KHccRCf4Q6AEINjAH#v=on epage&q=Joseph%20Weichselbaum&f=false), Weichselbaum’s firm also maintained, stored, and flew Trump’s personal helicopter, Ivana.)

The 1985 indictment alleged that Weichselbaum ran his narcotics operation from Miami, where he would buy kilos of cocaine from two Colombian brothers, Francisco and Walter Ramirez, which he would then sell to smaller dealers in the parking lot of a car dealership owned by his younger brother. The customers would then distribute the drugs in Ohio, Kentucky, and North Carolina, prosecutors alleged. In court filings obtained by the Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/the-donald-and-the-dealer-173892), Weichselbaum’s lawyer argued that his client had gotten into drug trafficking as a result of his “addiction to cocaine, compounded by an extremely stressful marriage.”

For all his flaws, Weichselbaum was forthright enough to tell the Trump Organization about the criminal charges filed against him in federal court in Ohio immediately following his arrest, giving the developer the opportunity to cut ties with the alleged narcotics trafficker.

(New Jersey casino owners were required to distance themselves from criminal elements, and ran the risk of losing their gambling license if they did not.) However, according to investigative reporter Wayne Barrett, regulators with the state’s Division of Gaming Enforcement failed to press the issue.

Two months after the 1985 indictment was unsealed, Trump began renting a two-bedroom coop unit in Trump Plaza in Manhattan directly to Weichselbaum.

He also wrote a pre-sentencing letter—first disclosed in Barrett’s 1992 biography, Trump: The Deals and the Downfall—vouching for the coke-addled drug dealer (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/the-donald-and-the-dealer-173892) in 1986, calling him “conscientious, forthright, and diligent” and “a credit to the community.”

Weichselbaum was sentenced to three years in prison and served just 18 months before receiving early release, while the others charged in the same indictment got as many as 20 years.

After Weichselbaum was released, he moved into Trump Tower with his girlfriend, who had just bought two adjoining apartments there for $2.4 million.

http://theslot.jezebel.com/meet-the-convicted-cocaine-trafficker-donald-trump-call-1787180877?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29

Trash, pal-ling around with Gangsters and employing, endorsing a cocaine dealer/convicted felon. :lol

[spurraider21]

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attacking hillary's physical health = bigoted
attacking trump's mental health = a-ok

[DarrinS]

attacking hillary's physical health = bigoted
attacking trump's mental health = a-ok


Actually, it's a super scientific analysis of les desplorables :lol

[boutons_deux]

attacking hillary's physical health = bigoted
attacking trump's mental health = a-ok

slandering Hillary as phsically ill, impaired, chronically is not based on evidence. ( what happened to her colostomy bag? :lol )

Saying Trash is mentally disordered, a pathological lying sicko, a egomaniac, is based on evidence on display DAILY since the escalator.

Even his own staff says he can't concentrate, is scatter-brained, won't, or can't, study policy, prepare FACTUALLY for future debates.

[boutons_deux]

Watch Donald Trump Say He Hired a Female Employee Just Because She Was Hot

He also called beautiful women his "alcoholism."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/watch-donald-trump-hire-woman-hot

An emotional teenager/frat rat in a man's seriously overweight body.

[boutons_deux]

Forbes pegs Trump's wealth at $3.7 billion, $800 million less than last yearhttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-wealth-idUSKCN11Y27S?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29

Remember Trash supporters saying he was "so rich" he would finance his own campaign? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Jaws Drop As Donald Jr. Shows That Sexism Is A Trump Family Disease


Claiming his father took the "high road", Donald Trump Jr told host Simon Conway of 1040 WHO Iowa radio that it took "courage" for his father to close his mouth for once and also not be a sexist pig.It took much “courage” for Donald Trump to avoid trying to shame Hillary Clinton by throwing her husband’s affairs in her face during a presidential debate on national TV. This is what passes for “courage” in Trump land.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/28/donald-trump-jr-praises-fathers-courage-throwing-clintons-husbands-infidelities-face.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

The Turd Ball doesn't fall far from the Asshole.

[djohn2oo8]

I guess CN left the Church of Trump.

[boutons_deux]

Trash is one classless, immature, insecure sick motherfucker

Trump Goes After Machado Again

In the situation Donald Trump is in with former Miss Universe Alicia Machado, any media professional or really anyone with a conscience would say this: "We quarreled many years ago. It's in the past. I truly wish her the best." Done and done.

But just an hour ago Trump went on O'Reilly to again trash Machado, now saying that he saved her job, gave her a shot at not being fat
and this is the thanks he gets. Yes, he really said that. "You know, they wanted to fire her. The company itself wanted to fire her. I saved her job ... I saved her job because I said that's going to -- I did that with a number of young ladies. The staff itself [wanted to fire her]. Look what happened.Look what I get out of it. I get nothing. A lot of things are coming out about her."

TRUMP:

But this is a person, Bill that that was the first one under my ownership. She did not do well. She had a lot of difficulty. And, you know, they wanted to fire her. The company itself wanted to fire her. I saved her job. I will bet you if you put up and added up all the time I spoke to her probably less than five minutes. I mean, I wasn't -- I hadnothing to do with this person, but they wanted to fire her. I saved her job because I said that's going to -- I did that with a number of young ladies. The staff itself. Look what happened. Look what I get out of it. I get nothing. A lot of things are coming out about her.

I saved her job because they wanted to fire her for putting on so much weight it is a beauty contest. Say what you want, Bill. It's a beauty contest. I said "Don't do that. Let her try and lose the weight." You can imagine? I end up in a position like this. So that's the way it is. I really just don't know her.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-goes-after-machado-again?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[boutons_deux]

damn good makeup

http://digg.com/video/snl-promo-trump-clinton-debate

[Splits]

attacking hillary's physical health = bigoted
attacking trump's mental health = a-ok

:cry both sides :cry

Except that article had nothing to do with Trump's "mental health"

:cry why can't we all just get along :cry
:cry 6 of one half a dozen of the other :cry
:cry libs are just as guilty as repugs :cry

You're the problem

[spurraider21]

:cry both sides :cry

Except that article had nothing to do with Trump's "mental health"

:cry why can't we all just get along :cry
:cry 6 of one half a dozen of the other :cry
:cry libs are just as guilty as repugs :cry

You're the problem
yeah, i was wrong about the specific contents about det article, you got me

partisan hackery is always a problem. doesn't mean the parties are "just as guilty" or "just as bad." i just don't look with blinders on

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump allegedly did illegal business in Cuba (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/29/1575830/-Donald-Trump-allegedly-did-illegal-business-in-Cuba)

A company controlled by Donald Trump (http://www.newsweek.com/topic/donald-trump), the Republican nominee for president, secretly conducted business in communist Cuba during Fidel Castro’s presidency despite strict American trade bans that made such undertakings illegal, according to interviews with former Trump executives, internal company records and court filings.

… with Trump’s knowledge, executives funneled the cash for the Cuba trip through an American consulting firm called Seven Arrows Investment and Development Corporation.

Once the business consultants traveled to the island and incurred the expenses for the venture, Seven Arrows instructed senior officers with Trump’s company — then called Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts — how to make it appear legal by linking it after-the-fact to a charitable effort.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/09/29/1575830/-Donald-Trump-allegedly-did-illegal-business-in-Cuba?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

No Law Is Above The Trashman

[RandomGuy]

Donald Trump allegedly did illegal business in Cuba (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/29/1575830/-Donald-Trump-allegedly-did-illegal-business-in-Cuba)

A company controlled by Donald Trump (http://www.newsweek.com/topic/donald-trump), the Republican nominee for president, secretly conducted business in communist Cuba during Fidel Castro’s presidency despite strict American trade bans that made such undertakings illegal, according to interviews with former Trump executives, internal company records and court filings.

… with Trump’s knowledge, executives funneled the cash for the Cuba trip through an American consulting firm called Seven Arrows Investment and Development Corporation.

Once the business consultants traveled to the island and incurred the expenses for the venture, Seven Arrows instructed senior officers with Trump’s company — then called Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts — how to make it appear legal by linking it after-the-fact to a charitable effort.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/09/29/1575830/-Donald-Trump-allegedly-did-illegal-business-in-Cuba?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

No Law Is Above The Trashman




Probably the kind of illegal shit he is trying to hide by not releasing his returns.

[RandomGuy]

many people are saying trump used cocaine prior to the debate

Many people are saying that. ;)

[RandomGuy]

Who will win the presidency?
Chance of winning

FiveThirtyEight
Hillary Clinton 62.2% Donald Trump 37.7%


Effect of the debate is becoming clearer, with an obvious tilting of odds.

[Th'Pusher]

Is he running for revenge?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htt91G2qDwM

Anybody watch this when it aired? I watched it last night. Pretty solid imo.

All I could think about was "House of Cards", when the covered HRC.

My wife said she thought it "was a little toward Hillary, or maybe Trump is that bad" :lol

[ducks]

Here’s a scary stat for Democrats: In 2012, President Obama won re-election by almost 5 million votes, but about 47 million eligible white voters without a college degree — including 24 million men — didn’t bother to vote. In 2016, these nonvoters are part of the demographic that is most strongly in favor of Donald Trump.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/missing-white-voters-could-elect-trump-but-first-they-need-to-register/?ex_cid=538twitter

[Spurminator]

Here’s a scary stat for Democrats: In 2012, President Obama won re-election by almost 5 million votes, but about 47 million eligible white voters without a college degree — including 24 million men — didn’t bother to vote. In 2016, these nonvoters are part of the demographic that is most strongly in favor of Donald Trump.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/missing-white-voters-could-elect-trump-but-first-they-need-to-register/?ex_cid=538twitter

Better cross your fingers for the uneducated white vote!

[Fabbs]

Fact Checker: Trump’s ridiculous claim that veterans are ‘treated worse’ than undocumented immigrants
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheckingthecandidates/fact-checker-trump%e2%80%99s-ridiculous-claim-that-veterans-are-%e2%80%98treated-worse%e2%80%99-than-undocumented-immigrants/ar-AAiPo7k?ocid=spartandhp

[Splits]

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[Reck]

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And the first one to be in a softcore porn. :lol

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-appears-unearthed-2000-playboy-porn-video-article-1.2813554

[Splits]

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[benefactor]

:lol

[boutons_deux]

The child-man is pure Trash

[Chris]

Mein neger Trey Smith signed off on Trump; I'm all aboard the Trump train. Last time I voted was for Ralph Nader :lol Trump is the new age King Cyrus :toast

xzuxTEq-plE

[cd021]

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:lmao

[cd021]

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[Warlord23]

A couple of years ago, would any of you have believed it if someone predicted that the Republican nominee would talk about sex tapes, dick size, menstruation and marital infidelity while tweeting like a 10-year old girl? Kim and Kanye are probably weighing a 2020 campaign.

[Splits]

781902723356786690

:lol

[Splits]

Read my lips: check out sex tape

[Splits]

Mr. Gorbachev, check out sex tape!

[baseline bum]

Speak softly and check out sex tape

[baseline bum]

And so my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can check out sex tape.

[baseline bum]

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men check out sex tape.

[Splits]

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, check out sex tape.

[ducks]

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-wrong-issue-the-wrong-time-the-wrong-campaign
The wrong issue, at the wrong time, from the wrong campaign

[cd021]

A couple of years ago, would any of you have believed it if someone predicted that the Republican nominee would talk about sex tapes, dick size, menstruation and marital infidelity while tweeting like a 10-year old girl? Kim and Kanye are probably weighing a 2020 campaign.

Not to mention that he said that he and his wife watched Paris Hilton's sex tape after it came out because he admitted that he was attracted to her when he first met her when she was 12. He also said that he would date his his daughter if she wasn't his daughter.:wow

[cd021]

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-wrong-issue-the-wrong-time-the-wrong-campaign
The wrong issue, at the wrong time, from the wrong campaign

Trump and his surrogates are adulterers and have 9 marriages combined. How are they going to hammer Bill on his cheating when they are just as bad?

[cd021]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-playboy_us_57efc120e4b082aad9bb9a0e?section=&


Trump pressured his future wife to do Playboy, he wound up making a cameo himself. He also tried to get his employees to pose nude too.


He even tried to get Playboy to do a spread called “The Girls of Trump,” wooing his most shapely staffers, including a former beauty queen secretary, into posing for the magazine with a sliding scale of offers on everything from full nude to breast to “wet-lip” shots.

http://theslot.jezebel.com/donald-trump-reportedly-wanted-his-women-staffers-to-po-1784835548

:wow

[benefactor]

Check out sex tape has become meme glory

[benefactor]

Mr. Gorbachev, check out sex tape!


Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men check out sex tape.


I did not have sexual relations with that woman, check out sex tape.
:rollin

[rmt]

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men check out sex tape.

Hey, hey - unfair - women should be able check it out too - lol. Seriously, I don't get the outrage I'm hearing from female reporters about this beauty queen. Don't they have to sign something that they'll keep themselves up as they represent Miss Universe and market all those free clothes, shoes, makeup, jewelry, scholarships, etc?

[florige]

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men check out sex tape.





:lol

[Winehole23]

Hey, hey - unfair - women should be able check it out too - lol. Seriously, I don't get the outrage I'm hearing from female reporters about this beauty queen. Don't they have to sign something that they'll keep themselves up as they represent Miss Universe and market all those free clothes, shoes, makeup, jewelry, scholarships, etc?because Miss Universe limited herself contractually doesn't mean Trump gets a pass on his own loutish remarks.

the social disapproval has been well-earned. being a loudmouthed asshole is a big part of Trump's act and it isn't cost-free.

[ducks]

Trump and his surrogates are adulterers and have 9 marriages combined. How are they going to hammer Bill on his cheating when they are just as bad?
Hillary trashed those women

[ducks]

http://nypost.com/2016/09/28/the-fbis-hillary-email-probe-is-looking-even-more-like-a-coverup/
Cover up

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://nypost.com/2016/09/28/the-fbis-hillary-email-probe-is-looking-even-more-like-a-coverup/
Cover up
People will shit on your source but take out the sensationalism and its spot on. Even after the story continues to unravel for the DOJ and FBI nothing will happen. After it came out five key people were given immunity by the DOJ it was obvious orders came from the top of the WH that nothing would happen to anyone.

[cd021]

Hillary trashed those women

Trump cheated on his spouses too, and tried to get his second wife to pose nude for playboy. He then pretends like he has the moral high ground against the Clinton's and the Ms. Universe?:lol

Trump doesn't know when to quit, 1st he gets hammered during the debates then he tweets about the former Ms. Universe, telling his supporters "To check out the sex tape," in an attempt to discredit her when Trump himself appeared in a Playboy video.:lmao

[cd021]

because Miss Universe limited herself contractually doesn't mean Trump gets a pass on his own loutish remarks.

the social disapproval has been well-earned. being a loudmouthed asshole is a big part of Trump's act and it isn't cost-free.

Calling her Ms. housekeeping is pretty fucked up and goes to along history of disrespecting woman. He deserves the backlash tbh

[Chris]

People will shit on your source but take out the sensationalism and its spot on. Even after the story continues to unravel for the DOJ and FBI nothing will happen. After it came out five key people were given immunity by the DOJ it was obvious orders came from the top of the WH that nothing would happen to anyone.

...But Trump tweeted something on Twitter. Get your mind out of the gutter. (Move along; nothing to see here).

[hitmanyr2k]

:lol Trump has no love for the rubes.

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[baseline bum]

:lol Trump has no love for the rubes.

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Why don't they check out sex tape before the rally?

[cd021]

Why don't they check out sex tape before the rally?
It's a valid question; A lot people say to check out the sex tape, believe me!

[Splits]

Why don't they check out sex tape before the rally?

:lol

Maybe they should replace the music loop with the audio of sex tape, so people could check it out

[Reck]

People will shit on your source but take out the sensationalism and its spot on. Even after the story continues to unravel for the DOJ and FBI nothing will happen. After it came out five key people were given immunity by the DOJ it was obvious orders came from the top of the WH that nothing would happen to anyone.

Which source is that, genius? Go on, tell.

[ducks]

Trump, who has repeatedly shot down requests to release his tax returns, may have legally avoided paying any taxes at all for up to 18 years, The New York Times reports, after he filed a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns.
The tax experts told the Times that regulations giving special advantages to wealthy filers would have allowed Trump to use the $916 million loss in 1995 to cancel out more than $50 million in taxable income over the next 18 years.



TAKE THAT CLINTON

legally not breaking laws

[Reck]

Trump, who has repeatedly shot down requests to release his tax returns, may have legally avoided paying any taxes at all for up to 18 years, The New York Times reports, after he filed a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns.

TAKE THAT CLINTON

legally not breaking laws

How old are you? Take that you, how do you like that?

:lol Who the fuck says that?

And "legally" means using loopholes within the system. That's hardly something to pounce your chest on.

He used his business as an excuse to not pay up.

[ducks]

who enjoy paying more tax then they need to?
it is not like he does not give directly to vets and other good things
gov proves they can not run a balanced budget

[cd021]

:lol

Maybe they should replace the music loop with the audio of sex tape, so people could check it out

Why half ass it? People deserve to see the whole ass on the video screens at the rally. They have a right to check out the sextape. :lol

[ducks]

TRUMP CAMPAIGN STATEMENT

"The only news here is that the more than 20-year-old alleged tax document was illegally obtained, a further demonstration that the New York Times, like establishment media in general, is an extension of the Clinton Campaign, the Democratic Party and their global special interests. What is happening now with the FBI and DOJ on Hillary Clinton's emails and illegal server, including her many lies and her lies to Congress are worse than what took place in the administration of Richard Nixon - and far more illegal.

"Mr. Trump is a highly-skilled businessman who has a fiduciary responsibility to his business, his family and his employees to pay no more tax than legally required. That being said, Mr. Trump has paid hundreds of millions of dollars in property taxes, sales and excise taxes, real estate taxes, city taxes, state taxes, employee taxes and federal taxes, along with very substantial charitable contributions. Mr. Trump knows the tax code far better than anyone who has ever run for President and he is the only one that knows how to fix it.

"The incredible skills Mr. Trump has shown in building his business are the skills we need to rebuild this country. Hillary Clinton is a corrupt public official who violated federal law, Donald Trump is an extraordinarily successful private businessman who followed the law and created tens of thousands of jobs for Americans."

[cd021]

Life,
Liberty,
and the pursuit to....

check out the sextape tbh

[Reck]

who enjoy paying more tax then they need to?
it is not like he does not give directly to vets and other good things
gov proves they can not run a balanced budget

Where is the proof he gives to charity or even veterans?

[djohn2oo8]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html

So avoiding taxes eh?

[rmt]

because Miss Universe limited herself contractually doesn't mean Trump gets a pass on his own loutish remarks.

the social disapproval has been well-earned. being a loudmouthed asshole is a big part of Trump's act and it isn't cost-free.

What would I have done if I had sunk millions of dollars into Miss Universe and the winner who signed multiple contracts reneged on them? taken her to court for breaking those legal contracts? or make some loutish remarks? And I wonder if it would have mattered if it was a woman who made those loutish remarks and not the male Republican nominee. People are way too sensitive about weight - in this case, they're not supposed to just let themselves go - it's business or rather multiple businesses (clothes, makeup, beauty contest, etc.) and if she can't fulfill her obligations, then she ought to have given up the crown, scholarships, clothes, shoes, makeup, etc and let the runner-up have them.

[ducks]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html

So avoiding taxes eh?

Everyone knows he failed for bankruptcy 4 times

[SpursforSix]

Fuck this election and fuck these two crooked, dishonest, and reprehensible people. This is it? Out of 300,000,000? These are the 2 choices?

[ducks]

CNN hypocrisy? Flashback to when network fat shamed Miss Universe Alicia Machado
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/09/29/cnn-hypocrisy-flashback-to-when-network-fat-shamed-miss-universe-alicia-machado.html

[ducks]

I suppose this is the MSM's way of indicting Trump of something?
How about anyone in the Main Stream Media pursuing anything on the
Clinton Foundation especially CNN. Pursue any of the below and you
will find corruption that would land anyone else besides the Clintons in
jail.
Clinton Foundation
Marsha Blackburn on corruption of Clinton Foundation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjanfaPl6E
Clinton Cash “Pay for Play” as Hillary and Bill sell out America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM
10% to actual charities
Hillary $5 mil for speeches.
Bill Clintion $100 mil for speeches.
Washington Post total contribution $2 Bil to Clintion Foundation
Clinton Pay for Play
For only Africa, Haiti, Columbia, Russia and many other countries
====
For Africa
Out of Clinton Foundation:
2009 shortly after Hillary was Secretary of State
Joe Wilson friend of Clintons – his company Jarch Capital – 50 years lease on 400,000 hectares in South Sudan, 1 Hectare = 2.47105381 Acres
Deals worth hundreds of millions of dollars
Warlords give access to land to make huge amount of money for exploring for natural gas, oil, and mineral rights.
Into Clinton Foundation:
Lukas Lundin $100 mil to Clinton Foundation
Out of Clinton Foundation:
Mining in Congo – Lukas Lundin’s company – LundinGold - Overall all capitalization $20 Bil.
Into Clinton Foundation:
Gilbert Chagoury $1 Bil to the Clinton Foundation (CGI)
Out of Clinton Foundation:
Gilbert Chagoury and Marc Rich got oil assets in Nigeria, sold oil assets for Leader of Nigeria Sani Abacha and smuggled out $4-8 bil out of country. Gilbert Chagoury indicted in Europe, but given a pass by US.
====
Haiti
Everything funneled through the Clintons:
13 Billion dollars from international relief organizations (Red Cross)
Hillary Clinton’s state department oversee reconstruction with Cheryl Mills
Bill Clinton special envoy appointed by the United Nations – Co Chair of Interim Haiti Recovery Commission.
They took advantage of Haiti’s earthquake. It is called Disaster Capital – rebuilding and self enrichment
Took US $124 million – Caracol – Textile factory – support to create 60,000 jobs.
Built in Northern part of country (unaffected by earthquake), Southern part was effected.
Only created created 5,000 jobs.
Only beneficiaries: Gap, Target, Walmart for textiles were tariff free.
Large tracks of homes built
Only large donors to Clinton Foundation got contacts
Contract to build 15,000 homes for $53 mil,
Instead 2,600 homes for $90 mil and got away with it.
Dennis O Brien – Billionaire investor company Digicel
$5 -10 Mil to Clinton Global Initiative
Arranged speeches for Bill Clinton
State Department by Hillary Clinton – mobile money transfer – transfer and receive money on their
phones.
4 weeks after application, sponsor a speech for Bill Clinton in Jamaca - $250,000.
Within 4 months, Digicel receives first install of grant money
Protest outside Hillary Clinton’s Manhattan office – Billions of dollars stolen by IHRC headed by Bill Clinton. Hundreds of millions of dollars in kickback through the Clinton Foundation.
Gold mining in Haiti – not granted Gold mining in 50 years.
Oversight by Bill and Hillary Clinton – VCS Mining – Tony Rodham on board of directors, brother of
Hillary Clinton. They get the gold mining grant.
====
Keystone XL Pipeline
Keystone XL Pipeline – add to Climate Change.
Clintons should reject this.
20,000+ Jobs would be created
Secretary of State in 2008 – Issue for Keystone XL Pipeline on her desk.
She has to signed Environment/Economic Impact whether it to go forward or not.
Bill Clinton gets $2mil for 10 speeches in Canada from TD Bank Investment Group.
3 months later Hillary signs Environment impact that supports the Keystone Pipeline.
She betrays the Environment Supports by signing this deal.
“Greenpeace” and “Friends of the Earth” were stunned.
Global Warming and Climate Change and Fossil Fuels – Clintons preach against this.
TD Bank Investment Group one of the largest shareholders in the Keystone XL Pipeline.
They never sponsored any speeches for Bill Clinton.
====
11 of Bill Clinton’s speeches skyrocket to $500,000 a piece after Hillary became Secretary of State.
====
Ericsson
Swedish telecom company selling equipment to Iran and other oppressive countries.
2012-2013
Trading with an enemy State. U.S. to broaden sanctions against Iran.
Ericsson hires Bill Clinton to give a single speech for $750,000.
Never supported Bill Clinton for a speech before.
7 days after that speech, Hillary’s State Department, not to broaden sanctions
against Iran to include telecom technology.
We will rely on companies like Ericsson to police themselves.
======
Columbia
Frank Giustra – mining company – friend of the Clintons
Canadian Stock Exchange - played Penny stocks in mining.
2010 Bill Clinton meeting with outgoing President Uribe of Colombia.
Hillary grants President Uribe technical agreement that Uribe wants.
In days, Frank Giustra gets major concession from Columbia.
His companies: Pacific Rubiales, Petroamerica, Prima Colombia Properties.
Grant to cut timber in rainforest along the Pacific coast to export to China.
This is in contrast to what the Clintons profess to be in favor of: Environmental Protection.
Clintons talk about not cutting down rainforest: for low carbon economies need rainforest.
Mitigate carbon dioxide in the air.
=====
Russia gets 20% of USA’s Uranium. Clinton Foundation gets $145mil
$145mil to Clinton Foundation - 20% of USA Uranium to Russia.
Russia Uranium deal
2005 Bill Clinton to Kazakhstan with Frank Giustra
To talk about AIDS HIV but Kazakhstan doesn’t have a problem.
Frank Giustra wanted access to Kazakhstan Uranium mines.
Bill Clinton stands with dictator of Kazakhstan (Nursultan Nazarbayev)
and praises human rights record.
OSCE – Operation for Security and Cooperation in Europe.
Dictator has been condemned by human rights organization but Bill Clinton
recommends that dictator be the head of human rights organization OSCE.
2 days later, Frank Giustra gets his Uranium deal in Kazakhstan
worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
Bill Clinton get $30 mil from Frank Giustra.
1st pledge of commitments that will be worth over $100 mil from
Frank Giustra to Bill Clinton.
Nazarbayev get approval of Bill Clinton, good on human rights
Frank Giustra get Uranium in Kazakhstan
Bill Clinton gets $30 mil
Chapter 2 of Uranium Deal
Frank Giustra takes the concession in Kazakhstan
and puts it into a company called uraniumone.
Stock market in Canada.
Gain uranium deals in Wyoming, Texas, New Mexico and Utah.
2009 they have over 50% (51.4%) of uranium production in the USA.
Gains the interest of Vladimir Putin
Hillary let Russian buy 20% of U.S Uranium Production Capacity
By National Review, 04/23/2015.
Russia wants this so they offer 40% over price on uraniumone.
But for the sale to go through, it has to be approved by the US Government.
Has to be signed off by the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Shareholders of uraniumone send more than $145 mil to Clinton Foundation.
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal, New York Times,
04/23/2015
Ian Telfer chairman and Frank Holmes of uraniumone giving to Clinton Foundation.
Hillary usually opposed to these deal lets Vladimir Putin buy uraniumone stock
and take control of 20% of the USA’s Uranium.
Over $145mil to Clinton Foundation and Russia gets 20% of USA’s Uranium.
====
Clinton Corruption Cost US Taxpayers estimation of $5.1 Bil.
Cost other Countries $1,446,751,663.70

[ducks]

It is called the tax code. If he is compliant with the tax code, there is no issue, aside from those who want to determine what other's "fair share" of taxes should be. If Hillary is so offended by this, why didn't she work to change the tax code when she was a senator? By the way, this is the same tax code used by the banks who hire Hillary to give speeches and the same tax code used by he'd Silicon Valley friends who hide their profits offshore, like her buddy Tim Cook of Apple. Ridiculous non-story here.

[ducks]

If Hillary doesn't like Trump's tax breaks, she shouldn't have voted for them when she was a senator.

[Reck]

Trump, who has repeatedly shot down requests to release his tax returns, may have legally avoided paying any taxes at all for up to 18 years, The New York Times reports, after he filed a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns.
The tax experts told the Times that regulations giving special advantages to wealthy filers would have allowed Trump to use the $916 million loss in 1995 to cancel out more than $50 million in taxable income over the next 18 years.



TAKE THAT CLINTON

legally not breaking laws

Also, lmao at you excusing Trump of losing almost a billion dollars.

How pathetic are you?

[ducks]

916 is closer to 900 million then a billion
He lost big money with the casinos everyone knew that already

[Reck]

916 is closer to 900 million then a billion
He lost big money with the casinos everyone knew that already

:lmao

ducks proving why schools are important in life. :lmao

[Winehole23]

What would I have done if I had sunk millions of dollars into Miss Universe and the winner who signed multiple contracts reneged on them? taken her to court for breaking those legal contracts? or make some loutish remarks? And I wonder if it would have mattered if it was a woman who made those loutish remarks and not the male Republican nominee. People are way too sensitive about weight - in this case, they're not supposed to just let themselves go - it's business or rather multiple businesses (clothes, makeup, beauty contest, etc.) and if she can't fulfill her obligations, then she ought to have given up the crown, scholarships, clothes, shoes, makeup, etc and let the runner-up have them.Trump gave that fat bitch what she deserved.

[Winehole23]

btw, check out sex tape!

[Winehole23]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eVlPrBWLywc/mqdefault.jpg

[cd021]

916 is closer to 900 million then a billion
He lost big money with the casinos everyone knew that already

His brand is all about success, he was born on 3rd base and acts as though he's self made. He lost $916 million, this is a big hit to that brand, worse yet he seemingly tried to cover it up.

[cd021]

Also, lmao at you excusing Trump of losing almost a billion dollars.

How pathetic are you?
I swear Trump supporters act as though they are in a cult:lol

[cd021]

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Trending on twitter, 125,000 tweets roasting Trump #LastTimeTrumpPayedTaxes

[hitmanyr2k]

His brand is all about success, he was born on 3rd base and acts as though he's self made. He lost $916 million, this is a big hit to that brand, worse yet he seemingly tried to cover it up.

Exactly. I don't care so much about Trump not paying taxes but I do care that he touts himself as a great businessman while refusing to show any proof that he actually is. Who knows how much money his businesses have lost in the last 15 years? How is he keeping himself afloat? I've always found it strange that a "billionaire" needed to come up with a get-rich-quick scheme like Trump University to scam Americans out of their money. To me that's a sign of desperation that someone is hard up for cash rather than drowning in success. Trump is a narcissist and I'm sure if his tax records in the last 20 years were in his favor he would release them and flaunt them in a heartbeat. The fact that he won't (even the records that aren't under audit) is suspicious.

[Winehole23]

The spending raised eyebrows among campaign finance experts and some of Mr. Trump’s critics who have questioned whether the presumptive Republican nominee, who points to his business acumen as a case for his candidacy, is trying to do what he has suggested he would in 2000 when he mulled making an independent run: “It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it.”


“He could end up turning a profit if he repaid himself for the campaign loans,” said Paul S. Ryan, a campaign finance expert with the Campaign Legal Center. “He could get all his money back plus the profit margin for what his campaign has paid himself for goods and services.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/22/us/politics/donald-trump-self-funding-payments.html

[ducks]

The New York Times risked legal trouble to publish Donald Trump’s tax return
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/02/the-new-york-times-risked-legal-trouble-to-publish-donald-trumps-tax-return/

new york times paid no taxes in 2014

[Winehole23]

the NYT isn't running for president

[Winehole23]

Trump 2016 is even more inept than Hilary 2008, and he has no one to blame but himself.

[Reck]

Trump 2016 is even more inept than Hilary 2008, and he has no one to blame but himself.

:lol

Trump also lost an additional 800 million dollars as of last year according to a Forbes investigation. What a fucking moron.

[Splits]

Nobody cares how much he made or loss. We are all too busy checking out sex tape.

[Winehole23]

Trump needs to win to leverage the Old Post Office deal and to keep Deutche Bank's bacon out of the grease -- no other bank will lend to him.

Trump chose not to control the timing of the release of his tax information -- a bad strategic mistake.

[benefactor]

916 is closer to 900 million then a billion
He lost big money with the casinos everyone knew that already
This is one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever read on this forum.

[RandomGuy]

The New York Times risked legal trouble to publish Donald Trump’s tax return
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/02/the-new-york-times-risked-legal-trouble-to-publish-donald-trumps-tax-return/

new york times paid no taxes in 2014


the NYT isn't running for president

:rollin

[RandomGuy]

Who will win the presidency?
Chance of winning

FiveThirtyEight
Hillary Clinton
66.8%

Donald Trump
33.2%
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

[pgardn]

It is called the tax code. If he is compliant with the tax code, there is no issue, aside from those who want to determine what other's "fair share" of taxes should be. If Hillary is so offended by this, why didn't she work to change the tax code when she was a senator? By the way, this is the same tax code used by the banks who hire Hillary to give speeches and the same tax code used by he'd Silicon Valley friends who hide their profits offshore, like her buddy Tim Cook of Apple. Ridiculous non-story here.

So when Donald Ducks says the system is rigged, he clearly is not talking about the tax code that allows him and other multimillionaires and billionaires to avoid paying taxes. And no one is dismissing the Clinton's of anything except that they have released tax returns. And of course we can learn absolutely nothing about tax returns...according to Donald.

Good to know that the tax code is not part of the rigging he is referring to.

What an utter piece of shit...
What does rigged mean? It implies using an unfare rule. What's it mean ducks? Hmmmm?
Fckn hypocrite.

[florige]

l

[florige]

This is one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever read on this forum.


:lol

[CosmicCowboy]

You guys act like you have never heard of loss carry forwards.

[rmt]

Trump's accountants doing a good job will be perceived as not fair - even if it is legal. Which one of you goes around refusing tax deductions/credits/benefits/etc. for the sake of paying your fair share? I don't know about you, but I take every single legal tax deduction/credit/benefit that I can.

[pgardn]

To the tune of a billion dollars...

I will ask again:

When Trump refers to a rigged system does this include the tax code?

Trump was too deemed to big to fail by the banks that he owed. This sounds familiar. Not only that, he uses the legal tax code on a gigantic scale. But the welfare cheats...

Disgusting hypocrites...

[pgardn]

Trump's accountants doing a good job will be perceived as not fair - even if it is legal. Which one of you goes around refusing tax deductions/credits/benefits/etc. for the sake of paying your fair share? I don't know about you, but I take every single legal tax deduction/credit/benefit that I can.

I do to. But I always owe, and owe big. I think the last time I got off free was just out of college. And you know what, I SHOULD OWE EVERY YEAR. Because this country has allowed me to prosper. This country. So hell yes I owe and I pay.

[Splits]

lol a racist homeschooling mom in Florida pretending to economically relate to a billionaire.

[pgardn]

So Trump is an expert at using the tax code and leverage banks. Make him president. People who know how to take care of enormous wealth obviously are uniquely tied to the pulse of this country. Hell, everyone likes to hide their money. Who here likes to spend other people's money?

Good deal. He is our man. An outsider who can clean things up in government. What a Fckn joke...

[Warlord23]

Back when the GOP Primary clown car was overflowing, Trump said that "the hedge fund guys are getting away with murder" when it comes to taxes and that "they'll pay more" under his plan. Interesting that (a) he didn't mention real estate developers like himself and (b) both hedge fund managers and Trump himself will end up with a lower tax liability under Trump's plan.

[Winehole23]

You guys act like you have never heard of loss carry forwards.It's exactly this sort of remark that makes you and Donald Trump look like out of touch elitists.

Most people can't afford such losses, let alone relate to carryng them forward and paying no income taxes for 15 years as a result.

[rmt]

It's exactly this sort of remark that makes you and Donald Trump look like out of touch elitists.

Most people can't afford such losses, let alone relate to carryng them forward and paying no income taxes for 15 years as a result.

I just don't understand this sort of thinking - an out of touch elitist? Some one who provides jobs for his employees? Is this the prevailing attitude toward small business owners? I guess you rather a public servant who has millions of dollars by whatever methods vs someone who actually creates jobs. The tax code is not the fault of either Trump or CC - why blame them for taking advantage of them?

[dabom]

I just don't understand this sort of thinking - an out of touch elitist? Some one who provides jobs for his employees? Is this the prevailing attitude toward small business owners? I guess you rather a public servant who has millions of dollars by whatever methods vs someone who actually creates jobs. The tax code is not the fault of either Trump or CC - why blame them for taking advantage of them?

The guy is an out of touch elitist. Dude wants more Trickle Down Economics times AIDS. And then we get into another fucking recession.

Here is a recent example at state level. :lol

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/09/billions-dollars-louisiana-destroyed-bobby-jindal.html

[pgardn]

I just don't understand this sort of thinking - an out of touch elitist? Some one who provides jobs for his employees? Is this the prevailing attitude toward small business owners? I guess you rather a public servant who has millions of dollars by whatever methods vs someone who actually creates jobs. The tax code is not the fault of either Trump or CC - why blame them for taking advantage of them?

So it's OK for the tax code to be rigged.

How are you planning on watching the vote in November in your area since the election is rigged? I mean lets get to the important stuff the Great Leader has called for. What are your plans and what do you expect to find?

[dabom]

"lets slash cuts for the RICH BIGTIME!" :lol

[Winehole23]

I just don't understand this sort of thinking - an out of touch elitist? Some one who provides jobs for his employees? Is this the prevailing attitude toward small business owners? I guess you rather a public servant who has millions of dollars by whatever methods vs someone who actually creates jobs. The tax code is not the fault of either Trump or CC - why blame them for taking advantage of them?It's absolutely true that Trump is not directly responsible for the fact that the tax code and bankruptcy law are rigged for rich insiders like him:


The loss stemmed from Trump’s investments in the early 1990s.

Ordinary investors in Trump’s business empire saw the value of their shares plunge to 17 cents from $35.50, bondholders got pennies on the dollar, and scores of contractors went unpaid.

But Trump got a bonanza because the tax code allows “net operating losses” to cancel out taxable income in future years. And the bankruptcy code allows wealthy people to stiff the people they owe by reorganizing their debts under Chapter 11.

[Winehole23]

Trump used his wealth and connections to build lavish casinos. When they went belly up, he used bankruptcy law to screw his investors and a rigged tax code to shirk income taxes.

[Winehole23]

that's the MO of a consummate insider. Trump isn't one of us.

[dabom]

I remember when hater told me he and ducks owned the political forum. :lol

I shouldn't come down here anymore to own ya bitches. :lmao

[ElNono]

I just don't understand this sort of thinking - an out of touch elitist? Some one who provides jobs for his employees? Is this the prevailing attitude toward small business owners? I guess you rather a public servant who has millions of dollars by whatever methods vs someone who actually creates jobs. The tax code is not the fault of either Trump or CC - why blame them for taking advantage of them?

You mean jobs he then turns around and refuses to pay for, because :cry losses :cry? But then when the bonanza time comes around, he pockets the difference?

I get it, "That makes me smart"... yeah, but the middle class takes it up the ass, once when they don't get paid, then again, when they have to cover because this bitch doesn't pay his taxes.

Not saying Shillary is any better, but really? This is the guy that's suddenly interested in saving the middle class? gmafb

[Winehole23]

hater and ducks own the shit-posting by volume, but both are fair weather friends -- expect them to disappear on November 9.

[pgardn]

I'm good at using other people's money to pay for things...

This is your man rmt.

[Winehole23]

Trump isn’t and was never a smart businessman. He was and is smart at gaming the system. There’s a difference.

[Winehole23]

and face it, as a politician, Trump sucks: he lacks discretion, discipline and self-control, and is totally inconsistent on policy.

this phase of the campaign is a job interview. the lack of relevant knowledge, preparation and temperament shows.

[rmt]

I think some of you need to go back and re-read my post. I was commenting on Winehole calling CC an out of touch elitist.

an out of touch elitist? Some one who provides jobs for his employees? Is this the prevailing attitude toward small business owners?

You guys are so easy to jump to conclusions.

[Winehole23]

what CC said about taxes was out of touch, and to be fair, I didn't call him an elitist: I said his remarks about carried losses make him sound like one.

[Winehole23]

tell me, rmt, do you admire rich guys like Trump and CC more for gaming a system that's rigged in their favor?

[pgardn]

I just don't understand this sort of thinking - an out of touch elitist? Some one who provides jobs for his employees? Is this the prevailing attitude toward small business owners? I guess you rather a public servant who has millions of dollars by whatever methods vs someone who actually creates jobs. The tax code is not the fault of either Trump or CC - why blame them for taking advantage of them?

bolded

And no one said it was Trumps fault.

But the man calls various government functions, programs, etc... rigged and then passes taxes to me. He takes advantage of a rigged tax code and then has the audacity to blame any of his political failings on various rigged systems. The contradictions are so blatant.

The election is rigged if he loses. The debate was his microphone. He is a whiny spoiled child and people have the audacity to let him slip by because he did not make the system, he just pilfered from it? Seriously? Now we know why he will not release tax returns. Bogus charities, bogus University, bogus streaks...

He is like an old tent toting revivalists taking money from people and he BRAGS ABOUT IT.

[Winehole23]

or is it more like envy?

[Winehole23]

do you envy Trump for screwing over his creditors and shirking his taxes in a totally legal fashion?

[rmt]

tell me, rmt, do you admire rich guys like Trump and CC more for gaming a system that's rigged in their favor?

Winehole, they are not gaming the system. What they are doing is legal. If you want to rail at someone, then I suggest you do it to the politicians who make the tax code. As far as carried losses, I would think that most business use it when it is of benefit. With regard to my day-trading/stocks, I use whatever is legal tax-wise to my benefit. What I think some of you are missing is that it behooves business people to do whatever is legal tax-wise to benefit their company or that company is not gonna last long - what do you think the company is - a charitable organization?

Look at Obamacare - do I blame people for signing up at the beginning of the year, getting their physicals, labs and procedures done and then dropping. Do I blame people for doing what is in their self-interest (as long as it's legal)? No, I blame the Democrats who wrote and passed this stupid law.

[rmt]

or is it more like envy?

Sigh, this might not be an appropriate place for this but this is what taped to my computer screen (a newspaper clipping):

I Asked God

I asked God for strength, that I might achieve.
I was made weak, that I might learn to obey.

I asked God for health, that I might do greater things.
I was given infirmity, that I might do better things.

I asked for riches, that I might be happy
I was given poverty, that I might be wise.

I asked for power, that I might have the praise of men.
I was given weakness, that I might feel the need of God.

I asked for all things, that I might enjoy life.
I was given life, that I might enjoy all things.

I got nothing that I asked for - but everything I had hoped for.
Almost despite myself, my unspoken prayers were answered.

I am, among all men, most richly blessed.

So, no, I do not envy Donald Trump - my priorities are elsewhere. Regarding envy - CC was not born rich. He worked hard and achieved the American dream. Is this not what previous generations have come to this country for? Why knock someone when they have succeeded - instead strive to achieve it yourself. I don't know what your ages are (I'm assuming most are young). I know things seem stacked against you but most start off with not much and work hard, invest wisely and in (my) 50s have a little nest egg - and it didn't come from NOT taking whatever tax deduction/credit/benefit legally available to me.

[dabom]

Sigh, this might not be an appropriate place for this but this is what taped to my computer screen (a newspaper clipping):

I Asked God

I asked God for strength, that I might achieve.
I was made weak, that I might learn to obey.

I asked God for health, that I might do greater things.
I was given infirmity, that I might do better things.

I asked for riches, that I might be happy
I was given poverty, that I might be wise.

I asked for power, that I might have the praise of men.
I was given weakness, that I might feel the need of God.

I asked for all things, that I might enjoy life.
I was given life, that I might enjoy all things.

I got nothing that I asked for - but everything I had hoped for.
Almost despite myself, my unspoken prayers were answered.

I am, among all men, most richly blessed.

So, no, I do not envy Donald Trump - my priorities are elsewhere. Regarding envy - CC was not born rich. He worked hard and achieved the American dream. Is this not what previous generations have come to this country for? Why knock someone when they have succeeded - instead strive to achieve it yourself. I don't know what your ages are (I'm assuming most are young). I know things seem stacked against you but most start off with not much and work hard, invest wisely and in (my) 50s have a little nest egg - and it didn't come from NOT taking whatever tax deduction/credit/benefit legally available to me.

So as a man of God, I don't see how you can vote for him. He is closer to Satan than anything. Tell me how morally wealthy Trump is. :lmao

[rmt]

So as a man of God, I don't see how you can vote for him. He is closer to Satan than anything. Tell me how morally wealthy Trump is. :lmao

I am a woman of God. I am not voting for Trump because he is some paragon of virtue - I'm voting for him because he might actually have the b**ls to upset the corruption that's in Washington. Do you see the FBI handing out immunity to 5 people and getting nothing in return? The government is corrupt at every level - and Hillary is the epitome of the establishment. You all get caught up in the BS Trump spouts - it all stems from his big ego/bravado/bluster - at least you hear what's on his mind compared to Hillary who will say anything to get your vote.

[ElNono]

I am a woman of God. I am not voting for Trump because he is some paragon of virtue - I'm voting for him because he might actually have the b**ls to upset the corruption that's in Washington. Do you see the FBI handing out immunity to 5 people and getting nothing in return? The government is corrupt at every level - and Hillary is the epitome of the establishment. You all get caught up in the BS Trump spouts - it all stems from his big ego/bravado/bluster - at least you hear what's on his mind compared to Hillary who will say anything to get your vote.

He's been all about himself, fucking the middle-class right in the ass for years on end, and you think he suddenly had a change of heart? Shillary being the embodiment of the "establishment" doesn't make this guy any less of an insider. Heck, he's admitted repeatedly how he's been a willing accomplice of this alleged "rigged system" that has made him a lot of money.

And where you really lost me is in the "what's on his mind part"... I mean, I'm not religious and enjoy trolling as much as the next guy for the lols, but reconciling "check the sextape", mocking the disabled, the constant misogyny, xenophobia, etc with "woman of God" would probably be one of the most twisted plots I've every heard, tbh.

I think it would simply be way more honest to simply admit you're voting for him because he's from red team and/or he's not from blue team. We're all adults here, tbh...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I am a woman of God. I am not voting for Trump because he is some paragon of virtue - I'm voting for him because he might actually have the b**ls to upset the corruption that's in Washington. Do you see the FBI handing out immunity to 5 people and getting nothing in return? The government is corrupt at every level - and Hillary is the epitome of the establishment. You all get caught up in the BS Trump spouts - it all stems from his big ego/bravado/bluster - at least you hear what's on his mind compared to Hillary who will say anything to get your vote.

:lol WTF. You admit that he takes advantage of a rigged corporate system and you expect him to not continue to aggrandize himself and 'fix the system,' whatever the fuck that means?

Best chance of fixing the system is SCOTUS nominees that will repeal CU and the only candidate still in this that has promised to appoint them is HRC. That alone in my eyes makes her the better choice.

Hope is not a plan, princess.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think it would simply be way more honest to simply admit you're voting for him because he's from red team and/or he's not from blue team. We're all adults here, tbh...

:bobo

[Warlord23]

I am a woman of God. I am not voting for Trump because he is some paragon of virtue - I'm voting for him because he might actually have the b**ls to upset the corruption that's in Washington. Do you see the FBI handing out immunity to 5 people and getting nothing in return? The government is corrupt at every level - and Hillary is the epitome of the establishment. You all get caught up in the BS Trump spouts - it all stems from his big ego/bravado/bluster - at least you hear what's on his mind compared to Hillary who will say anything to get your vote.

Name 1 specific reason or policy that makes you think Trump is willing or able to "upset the corruption". His tax policy is designed to be a windfall for himself. His energy and regulatory policies are a rehash of the "establishment" that you despise. He wants to boost defence spending massively while cutting taxes and keeping entitlements as-is. He whines about the debt but wants to add a boatload of new debt. He has not identified 1 specific, quantified spending cut. His proposed trade war is enough to kick off another recession.

On the other hand, his history suggests he would expand corruption. He likes cronies who agree with him, and is likely to appoint yes-men rather than competent people around him. At least one of his businesses (Trump U) was a scam. He was sued and/or fined repeatedly for skirting laws both in the real estate and casino businesses. He's been using both his charity and campaign funds for personal gain. He has bribed state officials to avoid Trump University investigations.

We get it - you don't like the status quo and want to change something. But electing Trump is equivalent to lobbing a hand grenade into a car and hoping that the explosion will fix the engine trouble you've been having. There is no upside, and plenty of downside.

[ElNono]

What's even more ridiculous in this case is that we're talking about his personal tax return, not his company tax return. There's no fiduciary duty to shareholders here (and we know how that went). This is strictly personal gain.

[cd021]

:lol

Trump also lost an additional 800 million dollars as of last year according to a Forbes investigation. What a fucking moron.

Trump should have just given all that money to the joker to burn for it him, ala the Dark Knight:lol.

[Splits]

I'm bored. Can anyone suggest something I should check out?

[rmt]

He's been all about himself, fucking the middle-class right in the ass for years on end, and you think he suddenly had a change of heart? Shillary being the embodiment of the "establishment" doesn't make this guy any less of an insider. Heck, he's admitted repeatedly how he's been a willing accomplice of this alleged "rigged system" that has made him a lot of money.

And where you really lost me is in the "what's on his mind part"... I mean, I'm not religious and enjoy trolling as much as the next guy for the lols, but reconciling "check the sextape", mocking the disabled, the constant misogyny, xenophobia, etc with "woman of God" would probably be one of the most twisted plots I've every heard, tbh.

I think it would simply be way more honest to simply admit you're voting for him because he's from red team and/or he's not from blue team. We're all adults here, tbh...

My emphasis is meant to be on WOMAN since dabom thought I was a man - nothing to do with Trump/God. And he is hardly my typical conservative Republican. Gosh, either I'm not expressing myself well or you guys are not comprehending what I'm saying.

And the irony of it all is that Hillary used this so-called "scheme" in 2015 and took a $700,000 loss and got a tax refund of $3.5 million in 2014 (according to Fox). The NYT uses the tax code to minimize the tax it pays also.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/clinton-campaign-admits-hillary-used-same-tax-avoidance-scheme-trump

[hater]

:lmao crying about a tax return when Clinton Foundation was working as a subsidiary to the State Department :lmao

Blue team reaching new lows

[hater]

:lmao thinking that Shillary and Bill would hesitate to pocket as much $ from tax returns as possible :lol


Hypocrisy at its finest

[rmt]

Fox probably mixed up the report - maybe it's the NYT that had the 3.5 (3.6) million dollar tax refund. That's a little too close for my comfort - it's probably a mix-up (saying it was Hillary who got the 3.5m refund instead of NYT).

[pgardn]

My emphasis is meant to be on WOMAN since dabom thought I was a man - nothing to do with Trump/God. And he is hardly my typical conservative Republican. Gosh, either I'm not expressing myself well or you guys are not comprehending what I'm saying.

And the irony of it all is that Hillary used this so-called "scheme" in 2015 and took a $700,000 loss and got a tax refund of $3.5 million in 2014 (according to Fox). The NYT uses the tax code to minimize the tax it pays also.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/clinton-campaign-admits-hillary-used-same-tax-avoidance-scheme-trump

Honestly I hate being negative about candidates as its way too easy. People who actually can say something meaningful and positive are useful. It's just very hard to admire either candidate in this election. But when one is so utterly full of contradictions and can't think when challenged, it's scary.

Both candidates have stated rebuilding infrastructure is a fundamental goal toward jobs creation and a better economy. I believe this to be true and personally I am more than willing to see my taxes go up because I benefit and also believe the country will. There. I said it.

And I do understand the reticence in a vote for Hillary. But my gosh looking for real positives in Trump is so difficult for me. And when you listen to Trump supporters.... Really? Most Hillary supporters seem to be motivated by default IMO.

[CosmicCowboy]

tell me, rmt, do you admire rich guys like Trump and CC more for gaming a system that's rigged in their favor?

Seriously? That's an ignorant statement.

Using a loss carry forward is a standard tax treatment of growing companies because you might have years of losses before you show a profit.

You borrow money to invest money in new buildings, equipment, trucks, employees etc.

At the end of the year you spent more money than you got in income and your company is growing and providing a service and jobs but you lost money.

After years of scrimping and investing and building your company you finally start to make a profit, but you still have to pay back all that money you borrowed to build the company.

Being able to deduct the early losses from the new income actually balances things out and presents a true picture of the actual taxable profit of the company over a multi-year window.

How is this "gaming the system"?

Without it, it would be almost impossible to start a business and ever make it profitable.

[pgardn]

:lmao crying about a tax return when Clinton Foundation was working as a subsidiary to the State Department :lmao

Blue team reaching new lows

Clinton Foundation should be handed over to new people and should be kept running as it is actually helpful but also has so much money coming in friends and relatives can sponge off it. But it actually does something useful unlike fake Donny and his University.

Truth. Try it out.

And F the blue team shit you partisan skank. Save that for Boots.

[pgardn]

Seriously? That's an ignorant statement.

Using a loss carry forward is a standard tax treatment of growing companies because you might have years of losses before you show a profit.

You borrow money to invest money in new buildings, equipment, trucks, employees etc.

At the end of the year you spent more money than you got in income and your company is growing and providing a service and jobs but you lost money.

After years of scrimping and investing and building your company you finally start to make a profit, but you still have to pay back all that money you borrowed to build the company.

Being able to deduct the early losses from the new income actually balances things out and presents a true picture of the actual taxable profit of the company over a multi-year window.

How is this "gaming the system"?

Without it, it would be almost impossible to start a business and ever make it profitable.

This is NOT what Donald has done. He has been let out of debt by banks. Do you just continually screw your creditors because you are SO BIG. Who do you think ends up paying for Donald's loses so he can get a do over?

[CosmicCowboy]

This is NOT what Donald has done. He has been let out of debt by banks. Do you just continually screw your creditors because you are SO BIG. Who do you think ends up paying for Donald's loses so he can get a do over?

Winehole was attacking ME.

[pgardn]

Winehole was attacking ME.

And rmt put you and Trump in the same sentence.
You are welcome for the PR. I'll send you my bill.

[CosmicCowboy]

Success typically does not come without risk and responsibility.

it's easy to be a hater.

[rmt]

This is NOT what Donald has done. He has been let out of debt by banks. Do you just continually screw your creditors because you are SO BIG. Who do you think ends up paying for Donald's loses so he can get a do over?

So, you have a problem with bankruptcy laws in general? Isn't that what anyone who declares bankruptcy ends up doing - screw over their creditors? If you all have a problem with the laws, the gripe should be with the politicians who make the laws. We have enough problems with people who break the law than worrying about people who are following the law.

[rmt]

And rmt put you and Trump in the same sentence.
You are welcome for the PR. I'll send you my bill.

No - that was Winehole himself.

[rmt]

Success typically does not come without risk and responsibility.

it's easy to be a hater.

I don't think some get how hard it is at first - sinking everything into a business, taking that chance, the uncertainty/unknown. LOL - my day trading is similar - sometimes like gambling - is the market gonna go up or down?

[CosmicCowboy]

I guess you guys all hate Jeff Bezos at Amazon too.

He used billions of loss carry forwards before Amazon ever started paying taxes and they still only pay about 4%.

[rmt]

I guess you guys all hate Jeff Bezos at Amazon too.

He used billions of loss carry forwards before Amazon ever started paying taxes and they still only pay about 4%.

Miami hometown boy

[RD2191]

I guess you guys all hate Jeff Bezos at Amazon too.

He used billions of loss carry forwards before Amazon ever started paying taxes and they still only pay about 4%.

Is Jeff Bezos running for president?

[rmt]

Is Jeff Bezos running for president?

Hillary is also running for president and used it last year.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/clinton-campaign-admits-hillary-used-same-tax-avoidance-scheme-trump

[Th'Pusher]

Seriously? That's an ignorant statement.

Using a loss carry forward is a standard tax treatment of growing companies because you might have years of losses before you show a profit.

You borrow money to invest money in new buildings, equipment, trucks, employees etc.

At the end of the year you spent more money than you got in income and your company is growing and providing a service and jobs but you lost money.

After years of scrimping and investing and building your company you finally start to make a profit, but you still have to pay back all that money you borrowed to build the company.

Being able to deduct the early losses from the new income actually balances things out and presents a true picture of the actual taxable profit of the company over a multi-year window.

How is this "gaming the system"?

Without it, it would be almost impossible to start a business and ever make it profitable.

You are referring to taxes you pay through your business. Why was Donald taking close to a billion loss on his individual tax return?