Church of Trump

[Clipper Nation]

The only interesting candidate in the two major parties needs his own thread, tbh. As a libertarian, he's too much of a neocon for me to want him as president, but he does bring up valid issues that ought to be talked about, and he is consistently entertaining.

Today, he's making plans to kick El Chapo's ass:

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[ElNono]

ugh, he's the koolaid-man of politicos... can't believe it would be you out of all people that would fall for it...

[boutons_deux]

interesting? :lol

valid issues? :lol

running the Executive isn't meant to be "entertaining".

[Clipper Nation]

interesting? :lol

valid issues? :lol

running the Executive isn't meant to be "entertaining".
Ugh, why is this shill defiling my perfectly good thread?

[boutons_deux]

perfectly good thread?

:lol

[Clipper Nation]

The Donald just brushing off all his haters and doubters, not letting it affect his swag, LeBron no headband, Witten no helmet, et al.:

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[unleashbaynes]

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/06/1399563/-Donald-Trump-gets-into-Twitter-war-with-Modern-Family-writer-is-obliterated

[boutons_deux]

http://www.truthdig.com/images/made/images/cartoonuploads/and0712j_590_444.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/06/1399563/-Donald-Trump-gets-into-Twitter-war-with-Modern-Family-writer-is-obliterated
:lol Daily Kos

Trump won, tbh. Modern Family is garbage, anyway. A sitcom with no jokes or humor at all.

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol Daily Kos

Trump won, tbh. Modern Family is garbage, anyway. A sitcom with no jokes or humor at all.
That's alright because it has homos, an interracial couple and a fat kid.

[boutons_deux]

Trump says Phoenix officials erred in letting too many people in to his speech (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/12/1401622/-Trump-says-Phoenix-officials-erred-in-letting-too-many-people-in-to-his-speech)


http://images.dailykos.com/images/151418/large/trumpbooger.jpg?1435690766

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump posted a tweet Sunday claiming the City of Phoenix violated its fire code by allowing a crowd at his event Saturday that was more than three times the room's capacity.Trump and his campaign were declaring through the day Saturday that there were 10,000, 15,000 or 20,000 people at the event at the Phoenix Convention Center. The hall where the rally was held has a maximum occupancy of 4,200.

Trump's tweets today (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/620221421755736064) said Phoenix officials "did not want to have thousands of people standing outside in the heat, so they let them in." Donald, if you happened to look at those people "standing outside in the heat," you'd notice they were protestors! (Who also made up some of the 4,200 in the hall.) The truth is, Convention Center officials offered the campaign a larger room, but Trump's people declined, because 4,000 or 5,000 in a room capable of holding 10,000 (a Sanders crowd) wouldn't present the right optics.

Every news organization estimated the Phoenix crowd at about 4,200—a decent size but not enough for Trump's fact-free ego, which demanded Bernie-like numbers.

Still, fire officials were adamant (http://www.12news.com/story/news/local/valley/2015/07/12/donald-trump-says-phoenix-violated-fire-code-to-expand-crowd-size/30051767/) that they did not permit 15,000 or 20,000 people into the space.


A spokeswoman for the Phoenix Fire Department and a person who was on-site Saturday and familiar with security arrangements said Trump was wrong."There's no way that would be allowed," said Phoenix Fire Department spokeswoman Shelly Jamison. "No one from Phoenix fire will be wowed by Donald Trump and turn the other cheek."


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/12/1401622/-Trump-says-Phoenix-officials-erred-in-letting-too-many-people-in-to-his-speech?detail=email

Prime Klown driving the Repug VERY CROWDED Klown Kar

[boutons_deux]

5 Reasons America Needs Immigrants More Than It Needs Donald Trump


http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/TrumpPainting-668x501.jpg


1. People like Trump crashed our economy.

Immigrants didn’t issue millions of bad mortgages, bundle them and then sell them to suckers, leading to the loss of trillions in wealth and 8 million jobs. Speculators like Donald Trump did. And though the richest were among those who helped engineer the crash, they’re also among the very few Americans who are soaking up the gains of the recovery.
Our nation’s greatest economic problem is income inequality. It’s slowing our growth (http://www.oecd.org/newsroom/inequality-hurts-economic-growth.htm), depressing our economic mobility (http://www.epi.org/blog/chair-yellen-income-wealth-inequalities/), andcorrupting our democracy (http://www.thenewcrossroads.com/2012/10/03/book-review-inequality-undermines-democracy/). The idea that the rich know best for America has resulted in one thing: The richest getting richer.
That’s the point of Donald Trump’s candidacy (http://www.nationalmemo.com/5-reasons-donald-trump-is-the-republican-party/) and the goal of the Republican Party. And it’s wrecking our middle class.

2. People like Trump are polarizing our government.

Republicans told themselves to pass immigration reform after losing in 2012. When a bipartisan bill passed the Senate — a bill that would have doubled the number of border patrol agents — the House GOP refused to vote on it. Instead they voted to deport law-abiding undocumented immigrants, over and over.

Why? The House GOP does not need to win one Latino vote (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/21/upshot/why-house-republicans-alienate-hispanics-they-dont-need-them.html?_r=0) to keep its majority. And while Latinos care about far more than immigration, the issue is hugely consequential and symbolic, as it shows whether your outstretched hand is open to new Americans, or making a fist.

For decades Republicans have used racial resentment to win elections and gut the policies that built the middle class. Now they need minorities to win the White House, and the seeds of distrust and division they’ve planted have grown into vines that threaten to strangle the party itself, the same way they have cut off all air to reform.

3. Unlike Trump, immigrants have every interest in steering clear of wrongdoing.

Every murder is a tragedy, but Trump’s attempt to turn Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez into a new Willie Horton betrays a cynical dismissal of reality that rises on a pungent cloud of xenophobia and opportunism.

“We know that as a group, immigrants are actually much less likely (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/08/donald-trumps-false-comments-connecting-mexican-immigrants-and-crime/) to commit crimes than native-born Americans,” Paul Waldman wrote in the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/07/08/the-new-willie-horton/).

The logic is pretty simple. Immigrants come here to work to support themselves and their families. Going to jail or back to Mexico screws this plan up. Avoiding law enforcement is the goal, to the point that crimes against the undocumented often go unreported, to avoid the risk of deportation. The exploitation of those in the shadows by criminals and employers is one huge reason that humanitarian groups and the Catholic Church support reform.

Trump, in an effort to seem less racist, argues that Mexico is capriciously sending criminals north. As if saying, “Not all Mexicans are rapists, just the ones in America” is any less offensive. And while his racist invective definitely has an audience, it’s likely to be less effective than George H.W. Bush’s Willie Horton attacks for a simple reason: Violent crime was actually spiking in the late 1980s, and Republicans didn’t need minority votes to take the White House.

While undocumented immigrants have every reason to avoid gamy interests (http://www.nationalmemo.com/candidate-trump-will-media-scrutinize-casino-kings-gamy-connections/) and multifarious questionable practices (http://www.nationalmemo.com/21-questions-for-donald-trump/), we can’t say the same for Trump.

4. Immigration reform will extend the life of Social Security.

Donald Trump could help extend the life of America’s retirement guarantee by arguing that people like him who have benefited the most from America should pay into Social Security on all their income, the way the middle class does.

Since the current Republican Party exists to make sure rich people don’t pay taxes, this simple fix to the country’s most invaluable social program isn’t likely. But the Senate passed a bill in 2013 that could have extended Social Security — immigration reform.

“Here’s how the math works,” The Daily Beast’s Eleanor Clift wrote (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/29/how-immigrants-will-save-social-security.html). “Five percent of the U.S. workforce is undocumented, which is some 8.1 million people. Thirty-eight percent of the 8.1 million pay Social Security taxes, which comes to roughly $12 billion a year, according to CAP estimates. That’s a pretty nice cushion for a graying America.”

This is a common-sense way to keep the program going (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/report/2013/06/14/66543/improving-lives-strengthening-finances-the-benefits-of-immigration-reform-to-social-security/) without asking America’s hardest-working people to work even longer.

5. Immigrants can help solve our biggest economic problems.

Given that President Obama has led the longest private sector expansion in American history— (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/12/05/obama_on_jobs_numbers_the_longest_streak_of_privat e_sector_job_growth_on_record.html)which has seen the unemployment rate cut faster and more dramatically than even Mitt Romney promised, as we’re on pace for the second-highest number of jobs ever created in one president’s term (http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2015/07/public-and-private-sector-payroll-jobs.html)—Republicans have to find other numbers to whine about. Their current fixation is the labor force participation rate. It is falling, as it has for decades, mostly because those pesky Baby Boomers actually thought we were serious when we said Americans should be able to retire.

I know Republicans just like to complain instead of trying to solve problems. But if they really want to increase labor force participation, immigration reform is the way to do it. Immigrants have showed a higher labor participation rate recently (http://www.as-coa.org/articles/get-facts-five-reasons-why-us-labor-force-needs-immigrants), and could help replace — and support — the legions of retiring Americans.

Forcing all workers to join in a legal labor market, where they can’t be exploited, would also help to address our second biggest problem: stagnant wages. Immigrants have already raised wages for American workers between 0.1 and 0.6 percent (http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/235003-how-immigration-benefits-americas-middle-class). And with these workers invited to participate in and contribute to our economy, they can advance the efforts to raise salaries through a higher minimum wage and a new overtime threshold that will pay millions of Americans more for work they’re already doing. (http://www.epi.org/publication/time-update-overtime-pay-rules-answers-frequently/)

http://www.nationalmemo.com/5-reasons-america-needs-immigrants-more-than-it-needs-donald-trump/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=MM_frequency_six&utm_campaign=Morning%20Memo%20-%202015-07-13&utm_content=A

[boutons_deux]

A century of research says Donald Trump is wrong about immigrants and crime

1) Native-born Americans are much more likely to be incarcerated than immigrants

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/e1LDlji4VTI9O_EytPZP4SXKPzw=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3858092/US%20crime%20immigrants.pngImmigration Policy Center (http://immigrationpolicy.org/special-reports/criminalization-immigration-united-states)
The Immigration Policy Center found that immigrant men from Mexico, El Salvador, and Guatemala ages 18 to 39 and without a high school diploma — those who make up a bulk of the unauthorized immigrant population (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/11/21/7-charts-that-explain-the-undocumented-immigrant-population/) and would be most prone to commit crime — are incarcerated at much lower rates than native-born American men of the same age and education level. This suggests that immigrants — both unauthorized and legal — are committing much less crime.

The analysis found this has held up for decades. In 1980, 1990, 2000, and 2010, native-born Americans ages 18 to 39 were two to five times more likely to be in jail or prison than immigrants of the same age.
In a review of the research, the Immigration Policy Center cited multiple studies that found immigrants aren't more prone to commit crime. For example, a 2013 study (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4078741/) found that "immigrants to the US are less likely to engage in violent or nonviolent antisocial behaviors than native-born Americans. Notably, native-born Americans were approximately four times more likely to report violent behavior than Asian and African immigrants and three times more likely than immigrants from Latin America."

"IMMIGRANTS TO THE US ARE LESS LIKELY TO ENGAGE IN VIOLENT OR NONVIOLENT ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIORS THAN NATIVE-BORN AMERICANS"

Some conservatives (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/07/illegal-immigrants-accounted-for-nearly-37-percent-of-federal-sentences-in-fy-2014/) point out that undocumented immigrants represent more than one-third of yearly federal sentences for criminal convictions. But the Immigration Policy Center demonstrated that the federal statistic misses the much larger state prison population, where immigrants make up a tiny fraction of inmates. The report stated, "while some may be for committing a serious criminal offense, a great many more may be there because of an immigration violation. Moreover, it is important to keep in mind that the characteristics of the federal prison population do not necessarily speak to the US prison population as a whole because the overwhelming majority of prisoners are not in federal prisons. According to data from the US Bureau of Justice Statistics, federal inmates accounted for only 9 percent of all prisoners in 2010."

The group also pointed to federal commissions from a century ago that studied the effects of previous immigration waves on crime. The Dillingham Commission (https://books.google.com/books?id=MWkTAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=No+satisfactory+evidence+has+yet+been+produced+ to+show+that+immigration+has+resulted+in+an+increa se+in+crime+disproportionate+to+the+increase+in+ad ult+population.+Such+comparable+statistics+of+crim e+and+population+as+it+has+been+possible+to+obtain +indicate+that+immigrants+are+less+prone+to+commit +crime+than+are+native+Americans.&source=bl&ots=cv2QXSBKWZ&sig=STN7O5DzH6k3cxpPMkeMlfF7cdw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rqCeVbOlI8Ht-AGzhbXQBQ&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false) in 1911 concluded, "No satisfactory evidence has yet been produced to show that immigration has resulted in an increase in crime disproportionate to the increase in adult population. Such comparable statistics of crime and population as it has been possible to obtain indicate that immigrants are less prone to commit crime than are native Americans."

2) Since the 1990s, more unauthorized immigrants came to the US — and crime rates dropped


https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/VBwrT-8Byej727WZEkKFl6VfFsQ=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3858296/immigrants%20and%20crime.pngImmigration Policy Center (http://immigrationpolicy.org/special-reports/criminalization-immigration-united-states)
As the number of immigrants — unauthorized and otherwise — increased in the US, crime fell precipitously across the country. And major immigrant "gateways" — such as El Paso, San Antonio, San Diego, and Austin — have seen big crime drops (http://www.urban.org/urban-wire/learning-about-crime-decline-big-city-experiences-homicide) along with the rest of the country, according to the Immigration Policy Center report.

Now, immigration isn't necessarily the [I]cause of the US crime drop — criminologists point to many, many reasons (http://www.vox.com/cards/crime-rate-drop) for the decline, and some are still being studied and debated to this day.

But some criminologists believe immigration helped. John Roman, a senior fellow at the Urban Institute's Justice Policy Center, previously told me (http://www.vox.com/cards/crime-rate-drop/gentrification-crime) that upwardly mobile immigrants (and gentrifiers) help create more prosperous economic environments — because they don't push older residents out of inner-city neighborhoods, but instead create more integrated, economically healthier areas. These stronger economies then help drive down crime.

UPWARDLY MOBILE IMMIGRANTS (AND GENTRIFIERS) HELP CREATE MORE PROSPEROUS ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENTS

Roman pointed to research (http://billmoyers.com/groupthink/gun-violence-in-our-inner-cities/the-nations-most-segregated-city/) that shows economically and racially segregated areas tend to have a lot more problems with crime. He cited the differences in crime in New York City, which has seen a lot of gentrification (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/01/the_gentrification_myth_it_s_rare_and_not_as_bad_f or_the_poor_as_people.html) in recent years, and Chicago, which remains one of the most economically (http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/08/01/the-rise-of-residential-segregation-by-income/) and racially (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/31/chicago-most-segregated-c_n_1244098.html) segregated major cities in the US. While New York City has seen homicides drop over the past few decades, Chicago's homicide rate has seen a smaller decline (http://blog.metrotrends.org/2012/12/learning-crime-decline-big-city-experiences-homicide/).

Roman acknowledged that it's difficult to study the direct effects of immigration and gentrification — making it hard to know how much, if any, of an impact immigrants may have.

But at the very least, the Immigration Policy Center's analysis shows that increases in immigration aren't leading to huge spikes in crime — suggesting that the warnings of Trump and others are misguided at best.

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/9/8922783/immigrants-crime-donald-trump

[Blake]

It's crazy that people are actually talking about Trump as if he's a serious candidate.

[boutons_deux]

It's crazy that people are actually talking about Trump as if he's a serious candidate.

right now, he's polling at the top or very near the top. Will certainly be in the Top 10 "Debate" assholes.

[InRareForm]

I actually like that he is fearless... But this is trump and does not deserve to be our president lol

[boutons_deux]

I actually like that he is fearless... But this is trump and does not deserve to be our president lol

easy to be fearless when you were born on 3rd base worth $Bs

[CosmicCowboy]

I actually like that he is fearless... But this is trump and does not deserve to be our president lol

Bet he's not fearless enough to keep talking shit about El Chapo. Dude would cap his ass just to prove he could and he would be a freaking overnight folk hero in Mexico.

[CosmicCowboy]

It's crazy that people are actually talking about Trump as if he's a serious candidate.

Same with Sanders. Yin and Yang.

[Clipper Nation]

It's crazy that people are actually talking about Trump as if he's a serious candidate.
He's more serious than that nutjob Bernie Sanders.

[Blake]

He's more serious than that nutjob Bernie Sanders.

That's almost like saying cat shit is more serious than dog crap

[boutons_deux]

He's more serious than that nutjob Bernie Sanders.

Trump is running on hate, Bernie is running on help for the 99%.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Reportedly Tells Hollywood Audience We Should Have Invaded Mexico Instead Of Iraq

That comment reportedly drew a loud round of applause.Romero reports that Lou Ferrigno and Paul Sorvino were in attendance (http://www.laweekly.com/news/trump-says-the-us-should-have-invaded-mexico-5794214). In addition, right wing commentator Ann Coulter was present. Donald Trump blew her a kiss from the podium.

Furthermore, while Trump’s demagoguery taps into white resentment to score votes, his arguments are odds with the facts. Despite all of Trump’s amplified rhetoric, illegal crossings across the U.S. Southern border are at a forty-year low (http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politics/fact-check-immigration/). Since 2007, more Mexicans have been leaving the United States than entering it (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/for-first-time-since-depression-more-mexicans-leave-us-than-enter/2012/04/23/gIQApyiDdT_story.html).

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/13/trump-reportedly-tells-hollywood-audience-invaded-mexico-iraq.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[LnGrrrR]

:lol Daily Kos

Trump won, tbh. Modern Family is garbage, anyway. A sitcom with no jokes or humor at all.

It's certainly not as funny as Trump running for president...

[LnGrrrR]

Bet he's not fearless enough to keep talking shit about El Chapo. Dude would cap his ass just to prove he could and he would be a freaking overnight folk hero in Mexico.

Cmon CC, this was a teeball all served up for you and you missed it. What you meant to say was "overnight folk hero in DC, California, NY, Boston..." lol

[LnGrrrR]

He's more serious than that nutjob Bernie Sanders.

I think Bernie Sanders has SLIGHTLY more capability to run the nation, having been in Congress. I know Trump's run a business empire, but I'm not quite sure it's the same. Has Trump even put out anything more than positions? Is there any policy he's behind? I mean, other than lofty platitudes like, "Big a build wall along the border!" and "Less taxes and immigrants!"? What about ISIS, for instance? What about Iran? What about Common Core standards? Where does he stand on education grants? etc etc...

[Fabbs]

If Trump did take out that Mexican asshat, would that propell Donny to the presidency?

Let's just say two days from now El Chumpo is found nuked and a wig like DT wears is put on his head.

Trump gains how many votes while losing how many US Mexicans who idol worship El Chumpo?

[LnGrrrR]

If Trump did take out that Mexican asshat, would that propell Donny to the presidency?

Let's just say two days from now El Chumpo is found nuked and a wig like DT wears is put on his head.

Trump gains how many votes while losing how many US Mexicans who idol worship El Chumpo?

Obama made the call to kill a bunch of pirates and save a hostage... and he didn't get any credit from some circles because he wasn't actually pulling the trigger. I wouldn't be surprised if those same people gave Trump all the credit... now if Trump flies down to Mexico himself and goes mano-a-mano, I'll give him all the credit in the world. It will be at his grave, but still.

[boutons_deux]

Paul Krugman: GOP voters naturally love Trump because he’s ‘a belligerent, loudmouth racist’

“He’s a belligerent, loudmouth racist with not an ounce of compassion for less fortunate people,” Krugman said. “In other words, he’s exactly the kind of person the Republican base consists of and identifies with. It’s clear that the very things that Upper West Side New Yorkers find detestable about him are exactly what endear him to the Republican base, which is basically people who see in him everything — even the big red face and the yelling — that makes him their kind of guy.”

Krugman argued that the GOP establishment had lost the ability to limit their field of presidential contenders to people who could put a “smoother face” on their platform, for at least part of the primary process.

A similar thing happened in 2012, he added, when several “loudmouthed, angry ludicrous candidates” enjoyed brief success in early polling — much like the kind Trump has been enjoying recently.

“In the end, they nominated Mitt Romney, who on substance was not that different the others,” Krugman recalled. “And probably, the same thing will happen this time around, with Jeb Bush playing that role.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/paul-krugman-gop-voters-naturally-love-trump-because-hes-a-belligerent-loudmouth-racist/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[unleashbaynes]

:lol Daily Kos

Trump won, tbh. Modern Family is garbage, anyway. A sitcom with no jokes or humor at all.

Yeah, it's a dumb show and people only watch it for Sofia Vergara's tits, and dumbass still got his ass handed to him by someone who writes it.

[boutons_deux]

The Donald went so far as to say he'd "kick [Guzman's] ass (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/620389447977320448)," while his opponents would merely negotiate with him.

Guzman apparently replied with some choice profanity via an unverified account with more than 300,000 followers.

"I'll make you eat your fucking words," the tweet threatens.

Joaquín Guzmán Loera @ElChap0Guzman (https://twitter.com/ElChap0Guzman)

Sigue chingando y voy hacer que te tragues todas tus putas palabras pinche guero cagaleche @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
4:13 PM - 12 Jul 2015 (https://twitter.com/ElChap0Guzman/status/620340119896133636)



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[Fabbs]

Obama made the call to kill a bunch of pirates and save a hostage... and he didn't get any credit from some circles because he wasn't actually pulling the trigger.
Barry got some cred and took a spike in the polls after taking out BinBin.

[LnGrrrR]

From some quarters... conservative? Not so much. Just look at these mouthbreathers for instance... https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090414224814AAD95pF

[Blizzardwizard]

My little faith there is left in 1st world societies is further diminished when you see people supporting this wack.. I mean what is the point of this guy? How do people atually take him seriously?

[ChumpDumper]

http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/lt/lt_cache/thumbnail/400/img/photos/2015/07/13/52/c4/trumpcat.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

My little faith there is left in 1st world societies is further diminished when you see people supporting this wack.. I mean what is the point of this guy? How do people atually take him seriously?
Wrong thread, you're looking for the "I Stand With Bernie Sanders" thread.

[Clipper Nation]

http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/lt/lt_cache/thumbnail/400/img/photos/2015/07/13/52/c4/trumpcat.jpg
Trump just locked up N0 LyF3 ScRuB's vote.

[HarryLoLa]

Not much of a church. Worst comb over ever. He called the FBI at first sign of trouble. Likely to curb his comments now.

[K...]

did anyone see el nono destroy op in post two?

[Clipper Nation]

did anyone see el nono destroy op in post two?
No. We did see you being a faggot from posts 1-1,927 though.

[Winehole23]

It's crazy that people are actually talking about Trump as if he's a serious candidate.first place, for now:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/07/14/usa-today-suffolk-poll-republicans-donald-trump/30102255/

[Winehole23]

Trump's edge, which is within the poll's margin of error, is one more sign that his ​harsh rhetoric about immigration and toward his rivals has struck a chord with some voters.

[CosmicCowboy]

first place, for now:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/07/14/usa-today-suffolk-poll-republicans-donald-trump/30102255/

Hillary was kicking Obama's ass at this stage in '08 too.

[boutons_deux]

Hillary was kicking Obama's ass at this stage in '08 too.

Hillary and Obama were legit, serious candidates

your boy Trump, so beloved by self-insulting rightwingnuts, is a total clown appealing to the racism, xenophobia, jingoism, wanna-be machism of the Repug base.

[Quetzal-X]

Trump is a fucking pussy depending on the govt. He shoukd stand on his own 2 if he wants to talk macho man . This pinche joto wants to talk shit and then run to the FBI like a huge fuckin pussy. Depending on the govt to save him. gtfo orange motherfucker...

[CosmicCowboy]

Hillary and Obama were legit, serious candidates

your boy Trump, so beloved by self-insulting rightwingnuts, is a total clown appealing to the racism, xenophobia, jingoism, wanna-be machism of the Repug base.

You not only are a fucking moron your reading comprehension truly sucks.

Where did you read that Trump was "my boy"?

[Blake]

first place, for now:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/07/14/usa-today-suffolk-poll-republicans-donald-trump/30102255/

At some point people will remember that it's Donald Trump.

Whatever happened to Rand Paul?

[boutons_deux]

Artist 3D Prints Donald Trump Butt Plug to Protest Anti-Immigrant Rhetoric


http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/trump_butt_plug_0.png

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/artist-3d-prints-donald-trump-butt-plug-protest-anti-immigrant-rhetoric?akid=13305.187590.fHzPmP&rd=1&src=newsletter1039390&t=13

[TDMVPDPOY]

i thought u need to be in politics or held some govt seat to be a candidate

if this clown can be a candidate, then anybody could be a candidate...at the end of the day its a popularity contest and how much money u have...

[DMX7]

Mexico is not sending its best people. It's not sending you. It's not sending you.

[DMX7]

right now, he's polling at the top or very near the top. Will certainly be in the Top 10 "Debate" assholes.

Threat the man with some respect! He is worth 10 BILLION DOLLARS!

[Nero5]

Trump is the gift that keeps on giving!
Love the trump!
With GOT off the air this is the best thing since sliced bread!

[boutons_deux]

$10B and not an ounce of class. That's he's leading Repugs polls shows what shitty people make up the Repug base.

He got trashed thoroughly when he pulled all kinds of tricks, bankruptcy, etc to reduce his wealth so he wouldn't have to pay his ex-wife. Really is a scumbag, Repug base loves scumbags.

[Uriel]

JULY 12, 2015Walker Assures G.O.P. Voters He Is as Horrible as TrumpBY ANDY BOROWITZ (http://www.newyorker.com/contributors/andy-borowitz)
http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Borowitz-Scott-Walker-690.jpg (http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Borowitz-Scott-Walker-1200.jpg)CREDITPHOTOGRAPH BY DANIEL ACKER / BLOOMBERG VIA GETTY MADISON, WISCONSIN (The Borowitz Report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report)) – Serving notice that he intends to go toe-to-toe with the controversial real-estate mogul, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker used the official announcement of his Presidential candidacy to assure Republican voters that he is as horrible as Donald Trump.
“Donald Trump has grabbed a lot of headlines over the past few weeks by spewing bigotry and venom,” Walker told an enthusiastic crowd of supporters. “I want to make it clear that when it comes to those things, I take a back seat to no one.”
Concluding his speech with a line that triggered a standing ovation, Walker said, “To those who thought Donald Trump was the only sociopath in the race, let me say this: not anymore.”
Prior to his announcement, aides to the Wisconsin governor had privately fretted that by establishing his identity as an arrogant and ill-informed merchant of hatred, Trump had appropriated Walker’s brand.
In the hopes of proving that Trump has no monopoly on odiousness, aides have released a point-by-point comparison showing that on such key issues as worker’s rights and health care, Walker is just as terrifying as the former reality-show host.
Acknowledging that Trump has dominated media attention for now, Walker’s aides believe that the governor will eventually reclaim his rightful mantle as the worst person in the race.
“Sooner or later, the Trump candidacy is going to fall apart and voters are going to be looking for another dick to vote for,” one aide said. “Scott Walker wants to be that dick.”

[boutons_deux]

Walker is actually worse than trump, because Walker and his WI Repug legislature have passed all kinds of horrible shit targeting the 99%, schools, colleges, workers, unions, women, etc. Trump is, so far, comparatively harmless.

[hater]

Lol I remember when pizza man Cain was leading deep into the GOP playoffs :lol

:lol GOP still playing checkers while everyone else plays chess :lmao

[hater]

Fucking Hilary might need an asterisk for this win tbh :lol

Never thought Hilary had a chance in hell and then I took a look at GOP lolz

[boutons_deux]

http://images.dailykos.com/images/154086/lightbox/1247ckCOMIC-trump-mysteries.png?1436999922

[Winehole23]

HuffPo banishes Trump campaign coverage to its entertainment page:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/a-note-about-our-coverage-of-donald-trumps-campaign_55a8fc9ce4b0896514d0fd66

[Winehole23]

Hillary was kicking Obama's ass at this stage in '08 too.Some of her numbers now don't inspire confidence:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/07/16/this-isnt-a-good-trend-line-for-hillary-clintons-2016-prospects/

[Winehole23]

...

[boutons_deux]

Some of her numbers now don't inspire confidence:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/07/16/this-isnt-a-good-trend-line-for-hillary-clintons-2016-prospects/

The main redeeming aspect for Hillary isn't that she tons better than any Repug, all of which are laughably horrible, even the top Repugs pollers are horrible.

Her agenda isn't too bad, but it has big holes (Wall st ) that aren't in this one: http://www.sanders.senate.gov/agenda/

[boutons_deux]

Some of her numbers now don't inspire confidence:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/07/16/this-isnt-a-good-trend-line-for-hillary-clintons-2016-prospects/

The main redeeming aspect for Hillary isn't that she tons better than any Repug, all of which are laughably horrible. Of course, the top Repugs pollers are horrible. Repugs just don't have any serious candidates in their Trump-driven Klown Kar.

Her agenda isn't too bad, but it has big holes (Wall st ) that aren't in this one: http://www.sanders.senate.gov/agenda/

[Clipper Nation]

Trump taking a wet shit on the HuffPo:

622399905441583104

622401553022894081

The Donald

[boutons_deux]

It's not pollsters' fault that Trump is #1 or #2. It's the fault of the racist, xenophobic, igonrant assholes who support him.

All SERIOUS people aren't crazy about Trump winning the polls, I'm totally amused, and know Trump will flame out (they come out of his asshole), never be President, will not even be the Repug candidate.

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump Isn’t the Exception. He’s the Republican Prototype.


Republicans are panicking that Donald Trump is ruining their good name :lol

while Democratic atheists are praying to god that Trump somehow manages to stay in the race through many a debate. They think this ex-Democrat and Republican apprentice who made “branding” the tackiest marketing trick on earth is their best hope to keep trashing the GOP’s brand without spending a Democratic dime.

I don’t buy it. It’s not that Trump isn’t

vulgar,

racist,

mean,

obnoxious,

irrational,

fact-challenged,

loudmouthed,

homophobic,

xenophobic,

sanctimonious, and a

demagogue

with Crazy Harry for hair.

But that extraterrestrial mane aside, he’s almost indistinguishable from the other 14 Republican crackpots running for president.

With the exception of George Pataki and Jeb Bush, who are as boring as Hillary Clinton, Trump is the prototype, not the exception. His fellow-candidates stand for almost exactly what he stands for.

They just couch it more politically, which is to say more sleazily: they trump Trump.

Even dull Jeb is more Trump than not. He’s supposedly the most moderate of the herd. Yet what Bush actually stands for would have placed him way to the right of Barry Goldwater in 1964.

And Goldwater is the guy who made Ronald Reagan look like a lefty in comparison. (Goldwater, who saw the religious right for the fundamentalist threat it was to secular government, suggested Jerry Falwell deserved a good kick in the balls, was all for gays in the military a generation before Democrats caught on, and blamed Republicans for damaging themselves more than Democrats ever could, is now what you’d call a moderate Democrat, putting him left of Hillary Clinton.)

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/07/18/donald-trump-isnt-exception-hes-republican-prototype

the Trump characteristics above are mirrored widely and deeply by Repug base.

[Splits]

ugh, he's the koolaid-man of politicos... can't believe it would be you out of all people that would fall for it...

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump rips former POW John McCain’s war record: ‘I like people who weren’t captured’

"He's not a war hero," Trump said dismissively of McCain, who spent more than five years being tortured as prisoner of war in Vietnam and suffered permanent injuries as a result.

Trump, who received a number of deferments to avoid serving in Vietnam, backtracked slightly after drawing boos.

"He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured," he said, with to a mix of laughs and jeers from the several hundred social conservatives gathered at the Family Leadership Summit.

"I believe perhaps he is a war hero, but right now, he said some very bad things about a lot of people,"

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-rips-pow-john-mccain-war-record-article-1.2296437

[ElNono]

:lmao this nigga gotta be a shillary mole, tbh

[Oh, Gee!!]

Trump taking exception to McCain for saying "bad things about a lot of people" is pretty funny.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I don't think a person who engages in twitter fights is a serious candidate.

[boutons_deux]

Mitt Romney Piles On Trump For Savaging McCain, Trump Fires Back


Mitt Romney (https://twitter.com/MittRomney)
(https://twitter.com/MittRomney)✔@MittRomney (https://twitter.com/MittRomney)

The difference between @SenJohnMcCain (https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain) and @realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump): Trump shot himself down. McCain and American veterans are true heroes.
1:51 PM - 18 Jul 2015 (https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/622478894881505281)




Donald J. Trump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

Why would anybody listen to @MittRomney (https://twitter.com/MittRomney)? He lost an election that should have easily been won against Obama. By the way,so did John McCain!
3:46 PM - 18 Jul 201 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/622507858714841088)5


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mitt-romney-john-mccain-donald-trump-vietnam-war?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

Voila, all y'all's Party of Stoopid

[boutons_deux]

Ted Cruz Cancels Press Conference In Order To Avoid Answering Questions About Trump

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/18/ted-cruz-cancels-press-conference-order-avoid-answering-questions-trump.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[HarryLoLa]

If I was McCain... Where was Trump during the Vietnam era? (Bone spur in his heel -- not qualified to serve)

[Clipper Nation]

Guess who said this about John McCain:

"I don't buy the war hero thing. Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

If you guessed Democrat Al Franken (http://www.salon.com/2000/01/10/voices/), you'd be right!

[Spurminator]

Is that leading Democrat Party Presidential candidate Al Frankin?

[ChumpDumper]

Guess who said this about John McCain:

"I don't buy the war hero thing. Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

If you guessed Democrat Al Franken (http://www.salon.com/2000/01/10/voices/), you'd be right!So you approve of what Trump said because Franken said the same thing?

Wow.

I think it was wrong for both of them to say it, but I'm just better than you.

[admiralsnackbar]

Bet he's not fearless enough to keep talking shit about El Chapo. Dude would cap his ass just to prove he could and he would be a freaking overnight folk hero in Mexico. Some US citizens might hop on that bandwagon.

[ElNono]

Heck, I hear Chapo is already a folk hero in Mexico

[boutons_deux]

Guess who said this about John McCain:

"I don't buy the war hero thing. Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

If you guessed Democrat Al Franken (http://www.salon.com/2000/01/10/voices/), you'd be right!

A hero does heroic stuff. Getting shot down and imprisoned isn't heroic. No need to trash McCain, but where is the heroism? hero and champion are over-used.

[hitmanyr2k]

Trump is a clown. He's reality TV in politics. He says the most routine things in the most flamboyant, loud-mouthed way possible and the media eats it up and does his work for him. His rise in the polls is no shock if you see the game that's being played. The media wants this guy in the fray for as long as they can use him, especially the left leaning media. They can't get enough of Trump and they love what he's doing to the Republican brand. That's why when you see him in interviews he gets softball questions and no one presses him on specifics when all his answers amount to "everyone bad, Trump good". When his act gets old and he's put under more scrutiny everyone will will turn on him and he'll go the way of Herman Cain.

[hitmanyr2k]

A hero does heroic stuff. Getting shot down and imprisoned isn't heroic. No need to trash McCain, but where is the heroism? hero and champion are over-used.

That may be the case but Trump going after McCain the way he did could be interpreted as him bashing all POWs. To the ultra-patriotic 'Murican mouth breathers out there that's not going to go over well at all. That's most of Fox News' audience. I'd like to see how they spin this. I figured Trump would pull this shit though. He doesn't want to be President and even though he's bragging about it I don't think he really wants to be #1 in the polls which will invite scrutiny and pressure. This little stunt with McCain is a good way to sabotage his campaign.

[djohn2oo8]

Bet he's not fearless enough to keep talking shit about El Chapo. Dude would cap his ass just to prove he could and he would be a freaking overnight folk hero in Mexico.
He would chop his Fucking head off and ship it to his family.

[djohn2oo8]

That may be the case but Trump going after McCain the way he did could be interpreted as him bashing all POWs. To the ultra-patriotic 'Murican mouth breathers out there that's not going to go over well at all. That's most of Fox News' audience. I'd like to see how they spin this. I figured Trump would pull this shit though. He doesn't want to be President and even though he's bragging about it I don't think he really wants to be #1 in the polls which will invite scrutiny and pressure. This little stunt with McCain is a good way to sabotage his campaign.

It's been over for Trump since day 1, but the chaos he is causing within the Repugs is pure entertainment.

[pgardn]

The only interesting candidate in the two major parties needs his own thread, tbh. As a libertarian, he's too much of a neocon for me to want him as president, but he does bring up valid issues]

Lets discuss John McCain, war hero or wuss?

The OP is as big a joke as the Donald.

Gotta give credit to boots for starting the madness of the GOP thread. The conservatives are experimenting with a Fruit Bat Fringe or they have declared Jihad and are attempting to blow themselves up... ?

But, but, it's interesting...

[Splits]

Glibertarian principals: what pisses off liberals? Ok, let's go with that.

The most spineless, pussified, and self-enamored people in the country. Fucking faggots.

[djohn2oo8]

Lets discuss John McCain, war hero or wuss?

The OP is as big a joke as the Donald.

Gotta give credit to boots for starting the madness of the GOP thread. The conservatives are experimenting with a Fruit Bat Fringe or they have declared Jihad and are attempting to blow themselves up... ?

But, but, it's interesting...

Yeah. OP is a pussy. "I don't support him, but I support him" :lmao

[Splits]

:cry I'm anti-choice and also think that we should abolish the death penalty and stop bombing countries but I only start threads about false abortion stories that crazy wingnuts concoct :cry

CN is a huge faggot.

:cry USA is the greatest country in the history of the world :cry

[boutons_deux]

Trump trashing McLiar was really stupid, like Trump.

McLiar was Repug Pres candidate, but is not on the Pres radar now.

Why go after McLiar?

Really Stupid Politics that will cost Trump, but his racist, xenophobic True Believers (in bullshit) will probably hang on.

[boutons_deux]

Trump church goers

Racism and xenophobia are exactly why Republicans love Donald Trump, polls show

The open question is how much damage can Trump do to the GOP brand and the nominating process

It’s accompanying analysis said that Trump’s surge was among the same Republicans who typically are Tea Partiers and support more restrictive voting laws.

“Trump’s really caught fire with voters on the far right,” PPP found (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/07/trump-leads-gop-field-in-north-carolina.html). “Sixty-six % of ‘very conservative’ voters see him favorably to only 24% with a negative view of him. Trump is polling particularly well with younger voters (29%) and men (20%).”

However, outside of far right circles, there is still a wide perception that Trump is not in the race to win. Thirty-nine percent of Monmouth’s respondents (http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/d56c8128-f211-4a0e-a413-f4716c83cf65.pdf) ”named Donald Trump as a candidate who is in it more for the publicity.”

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/18/trump_polls_partner/

[Clipper Nation]

Yeah. OP is a pussy. "I don't support him, but I support him" :lmao
I think he's entertaining and makes a few good points, but I don't agree with his whole platform enough to really want him as president. How is that being a "pussy"?

[boutons_deux]

makes a few good points

... which are?

[Clipper Nation]

:cry I'm anti-choice and also think that we should abolish the death penalty and stop bombing countries but I only start threads about false abortion stories that crazy wingnuts concoct :cry

CN is a huge faggot.

:cry USA is the greatest country in the history of the world :cry
:cry "I'm a cuck who has a thing for emaciated trannies with the body of a 12-year-old boy. I call them supermodels." :cry

Splitcuck is a huge faggot.

:cry "This is how models look, this is how they play, and I'm the guy who fucks them while you're saving up for a new purse" :cry

[Splits]

:cry I don't know how to respond when called out with truthbombs pls save me cuckfactory :cry

[djohn2oo8]

I think he's entertaining and makes a few good points, but I don't agree with his whole platform enough to really want him as president. How is that being a "pussy"?

But you made a thread defending him and talking about his swag :lol

[Splits]

But you made a thread defending him and talking about his swag :lol

:lol there couldn't be a more predictable face to the clown carnival masking itself as the republican primary process and this faggot CN jumps onboard :lmao

:cry but I'm a glibertarian, I Stand With Rand :cry

[Clipper Nation]

But you made a thread defending him and talking about his swag :lol
What can I say? His Twitter is hilarious and he pisses libs like you off :lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol there couldn't be a more predictable face to the clown carnival masking itself as the republican primary process and this faggot CN jumps onboard :lmao

:cry but I'm a glibertarian, I Stand With Rand :cry
You're trying really hard, but "glibertarian" is never going to be a thing, tbh.

I'll be writing Ron Paul in.

[Splits]

You're trying really hard, but "glibertarian" is never going to be a thing, tbh.

I'll be writing Ron Paul in.

:lmao so you can't even vote for his son?

[djohn2oo8]

What can I say? His Twitter is hilarious and he pisses libs like you off :lol

But you said he is too Much of a neocon for you. Unless he isn't :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

:lol there couldn't be a more predictable face to the clown carnival masking itself as the republican primary process and this faggot CN jumps onboard :lmao

:cry but I'm a glibertarian, I Stand With Rand :cry

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao so you can't even vote for his son?
He flip-flops too much and sucks up to faggots like Bitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham.

[Splits]

What can I say? His Twitter is hilarious and he pisses libs like you off :lol

This is the glibertarian agenda: fuck principals, whatever pisses off liberals.

The funny thing is, I'm 100% in on 50% of the glibertarian agenda. But they find it more important to self-inflate and give each other reach arounds when they think they found the "piss off liberal" zinger. They're basically faggots.

[Splits]

He flip-flops too much and sucks up to faggots like Bitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham.

Like I said, I agree with glibs 100% 50% of the time. Bitch and that homo Graham are two of the worst humans to ever live.

[ElNono]

:lol this is going to end with Donald writing a book, probably sponsored by the Clinton Foundation, racking in the millions, then declaring bankruptcy so he doesn't have to pay the 3 guys that actually wrote the book...

[Splits]

:lol this is going to end with Donald writing a book, probably sponsored by the Clinton Foundation, racking in the millions, then declaring bankruptcy so he doesn't have to pay the 3 guys that actually wrote the book...

Nah, Ann Coulter will be there to lick the sperm dripping off his hairpiece after he yanks off... and help ghostwrite another book.

[Clipper Nation]

Trump speaking the truth to the GOP establishment:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/07/19/donald-trump-republican-party-presidential-candidate-editorials-debates/30389993/

[Clipper Nation]

Thanks to McCain and his Senate colleague Bernie Sanders, their legislation to cover up the VA scandal, in which 1,000+ veterans died (http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/24/us/senator-va-report/) waiting for medical care, made sure no one has been punished, charged, jailed, fined or held responsible.

Blizzardwizard (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42696) Uriel (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20048) boutons_deux (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16047) Tuddy (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=23681) Nathan89 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20260) :downspin: this shiiiiiiiiiiitttt!

[ChumpDumper]

He was in a parade! :lol

[boutons_deux]

Trump speaking the truth to the GOP establishment:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/07/19/donald-trump-republican-party-presidential-candidate-editorials-debates/30389993/

Trump? you're quoting Trump as a "reliable source"? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Thanks to McCain and his Senate colleague Bernie Sanders, their legislation to cover up the VA scandal, in which 1,000+ veterans died (http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/24/us/senator-va-report/) waiting for medical care, made sure no one has been punished, charged, jailed, fined or held responsible.

Blizzardwizard (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42696) Uriel (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20048) boutons_deux (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16047) Tuddy (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=23681) Nathan89 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20260) :downspin: this shiiiiiiiiiiitttt!

that's Trump's LIE, here's closer to what happened

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/bernie-sanders-jeff-miller-veterans-affairs-deal-109464.html

CN always on the WRONG SIDE of the truth. why? he's a rightwingut, it's standard to be wrong on everything.

[Blake]

Trump speaking the truth to the GOP establishment:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/07/19/donald-trump-republican-party-presidential-candidate-editorials-debates/30389993/

Lol Trump worship.

You're such an idiot.

[Spurminator]

Thing is, Trump is basically the candidate embodiment of how people talk about current events anyway. Of course he's going to be attractive to a conservative bloc that spends ten hours a day watching Fox News.

[boutons_deux]

Thing is, Trump is basically the candidate embodiment of how people talk about current events anyway. Of course he's going to be attractive to a conservative bloc that spends ten hours a day watching Fox News.

... old, white, male.

Repugs needs nearly 50% of Hispanic vote to win Pres, they poll now well below 30%. Repugs will also lose the youth, women, black, LGBT, and probably Asian blocs.


WATCH: Comedian George Lopez leads Phoenix audience in rousing ‘F*ck Donald Trump’ chant

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/watch-comedian-george-lopez-leads-phoenix-audience-in-rousing-fck-donald-trump-chant/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Spurminator]

... old, white, male.

Repugs needs nearly 50% of Hispanic vote to win Pres, they poll now well below 30%. Repugs will also lose the youth, women, black, LGBT, and probably Asian blocs.


WATCH: Comedian George Lopez leads Phoenix audience in rousing ‘F*ck Donald Trump’ chant

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/watch-comedian-george-lopez-leads-phoenix-audience-in-rousing-fck-donald-trump-chant/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29



Thing is, Trump is basically the candidate embodiment of how people talk about current events anyway.

boutons being the non-candidate embodiment from the other side...

[Sportcamper]

Trump really screwed the pooch attacking John McCain…Trump was getting loaded when McCain was in Nam prison camp…Bad form Donald... :wow

[Oh, Gee!!]

Thing is, Trump is basically the candidate embodiment of how people talk about current events anyway. Of course he's going to be attractive to a conservative bloc that spends ten hours a day watching Fox News.

Almost. He needs to claim his 1st amendment rights are being violated by the negative attention he's recieving.

[Drachen]

Don't know how to post a tweet, buy just saw this and its hilarious.

#DonaldTrump is like if a Comments Section ran for office.

[Splits]

Don't know how to post a tweet, buy just saw this and its hilarious.

#DonaldTrump is like if a Comments Section ran for office.

:lol

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[Clipper Nation]

http://i.imgur.com/CqYeT6h.jpg

:cry But, but, his campaign's dead because he made fun of McCain! HuffPo and the DailyKos promised! :cry

[boutons_deux]

http://i.imgur.com/CqYeT6h.jpg

:cry But, but, his campaign's dead because he made fun of McCain! HuffPo and the DailyKos promised! :cry

I really hope Trump is the candidate. Even Bernie would destroy him.

[Clipper Nation]

I really hope Trump is the candidate. Even Bernie would destroy him.
Bernie would be holding an "L" of Mondale proportions if he had to face Trump. The Donald would crush him in every debate.

[ChumpDumper]

Will be interesting to see if the numbers hold up after Trump tried to shit on POWs.

[ducks]

trump should have blasted john for va hostpital in phoenix he spends every other weekend in az watching dbacks play in person on your tax dollar

john is not a hero he is a discrace to the military


it will be instersting how polls do
I am ready for anyone other then a typically politician to get in any office

[ducks]

that's Trump's LIE, here's closer to what happened

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/bernie-sanders-jeff-miller-veterans-affairs-deal-109464.html

CN always on the WRONG SIDE of the truth. why? he's a rightwingut, it's standard to be wrong on everything.

being a left or right wing has nothing to being wrong or right
you are wrong or right based on the fact not if you are a donkey or republican

[boutons_deux]

being a left or right wing has nothing to being wrong or right
you are wrong or right based on the fact not if you are a donkey or republican

when have Repugs been right on anything?

[ducks]

when have the democrats
see Obama no new taxes on the middle class LIE taxes higher then when he took over!
no secure border need to use mine traps like other countries do
give them illegals 48 warning

near the boarder 3/4 of the school is illegals living in mexico but your tax dollar is paying for those people to learn here in usa to take the American kids jobs away from them
but lets just make them all legal just ask the guy in office

[ducks]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-teen-shot-by-friend-of-girlfriends-stepfather-20150719-story.html

oh and he was not suppose to own the gun but you know crimnals always obey the law right just ask the liberals

[Spurminator]

Oh can we please have a ducks vs. boutons megathread?

[ducks]

Will be interesting to see if the numbers hold up after Trump tried to shit on POWs.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/donald-trump-dominates-stunning-2016-212924033.html

Trump going to be president and make boutons go live in Mexico since the USA sucks

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/donald-trump-dominates-stunning-2016-212924033.html

Trump going to be president and make boutons go live in Mexico since the USA sucksThat poll was taken mostly before his shit talking POWs.

[Winehole23]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-the-worlds-greatest-troll/

[Winehole23]

And yet, the public is perhaps even more obsessed with Trump. Among the GOP candidates, he represented 62 percent of the Google search traffic over the past month, having been searched for more than six times as often as second-place Bush.

[cd021]

http://www.latinpost.com/articles/66911/20150719/presidential-race-2016-gop-may-need-support-of-nearly-half-of-latino-voters-to-win.htm

Kind of ironic

For the GOP to win the White House, they'd likely need between forty-fifty percent of the Hispanic vote. The last four elections they've pulled less than forty percent and in the last two they've pulled 33% and 29%.

[pgardn]

The only interesting candidate in the two major parties needs his own thread, tbh. As a libertarian, he's too much of a neocon for me to want him as president, but he does bring up valid issues that ought to be talked about, and he is consistently entertaining.

Today, he's making plans to kick El Chapo's ass:

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Everytime I come back to this I realize what a joke of a poster you are. It explains your ridiculous takes on basketball as well. You need to go watch a middle school play to satisfy your desire for slapstick comedy and chaos. We need to go retro and create some sort of mosh pit at your local club so you can get your old ass down in there for playtime.

[boutons_deux]

Trump way out front in Repug polls shows how totally fucked up, how big of a joke the ignorant, racist, gun fellatin, Bible humpin Repug base is. Trump is clown and so is the Repug base

[pgardn]

Trump way out front in Repug polls shows how totally fucked up, how big of a joke the ignorant, racist, gun fellatin, Bible humpin Repug base is. Trump is clown and so is the Repug base

Their true base is fiscal responsibility. No way he gets the nomination.

[boutons_deux]

Their true base is fiscal responsibility. No way he gets the nomination.

fiscal responsibility, balanced budget is VRWC code-word for starve the beast (so BigCorp can operate unimpeded), destroy the safety net, privatize SS, privatize Medicare/Medicaid, but keeping spending nauseously high for defense. iow, wealth transfer to the top, redistribution upwards.

[pgardn]

fiscal responsibility, balanced budget is VRWC code-word for starve the beast (so BigCorp can operate unimpeded), destroy the safety net, privatize SS, privatize Medicare/Medicaid, but keeping spending nauseously high for defense. iow, wealth transfer to the top, redistribution upwards.

No many have seen the waste in Government run institutions like I have. They have seen how people can entrench themselves in a government agency and hide while doing nothing wrong by doing nothing. I will admit that private companies can go to the other extreme but I see both sides.

[boutons_deux]

entrench themselves in a government agency and hide while doing nothing wrong by doing nothing

the "fisical responsiblity" crowd doesn't care about those people and what they cost. They want to get their hands on the $Ts in SS, medicare, medicaid, safety net.

[boutons_deux]

Jon Stewart

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/21/jon_stewart_returns_to_daily_show_in_trump_overdri ve_he_has_no_control_over_the_projectile_vomit_of_ dickishness_that_comes_out_of_his_mouth/

[ducks]

@mlipst Some of McCain’s fellow prisoners, who were tortured and did not collaborate, have challenged his narrative, expressing their belief that McCain was not physically abused at all and that he was well treated. Others who were also in the prison camp dispute that claim.
@mlipst McCain is a Veteran with political clout and does nothing for the VA but collect a check himself....!

gotchafox
I agree with Trump... being a prisoner of war should not automatically make you a war hero. Secondly, just WHAT has McCain accomplished during his tenure? Just ONE thing?

While I always respect the fact that someone fought for this country, that alone does not make them a good person. McCain hasn't done what he should as a politician and Trump has every right to call him out on it; he is not untouchable because he was a POW.
found it best for those who were never prisoners of war to not criticize the actions of those who were.

That being said, I am not a huge fan of McCain's political record. I feel he is the poster child for term limits.


instersting quotes

[ducks]

John McCain is a veteran, a hero, that is a stretch. Depending on which source you believe, McCain could have been responsible for the fire on the USS Forrestal in 1967. He has voted at least 22 times against legislation to help veterans or to properly equip troops fighting in the Middle East. He is a RINO and an establishment republican. He seems to think fighting wars constantly is a good thing, regardless of the cost in American lives and treasure. Donald Trump lacks tact and diplomacy, that is what appeals to people. He's not a politician and it seems the mainstream media and the GOP are afraid of him. Neither party wants to rock the boat and both parties are sprinting for an inevitable economic collapse. Maybe Trump deserves a chance to do something different, because we KNOW the politicians are either too incompetent to prevent our demise or complicit in bringing it about.

[ducks]

Truth be told, McCain is anti-veteran and always has been. He carries a deep and spiteful vendetta against those veterans who were NOT captured.

[ducks]

McCain has been in the Congress for 30 years. He is considered one of the movers and shakers of Congress, who has a 19% approval rating. He is the Chair of the most powerful Congressional Oversight Committee for the Armed Services, and Veterans are dying before they can see a doctor at the VA.

[ducks]

johnnyoneortwotimes Actually his home state leads the nation in veterans that are dying because they can't get the medical care they were promised when they enlisted and gave years of their lives for this country. McCain has never done a thing to help the veterans


I'm a vet and i'm not offended by Trump's slip. Although i am HIGHLY offended by the way politicians have treated the military and vets, and they don't let us protect our borders! This has been an on going and intentional issue for a long time by all demoncrats and half of the republicans

[ducks]

Killed in her sleep: Illegal immigrants suspected in Mass. grandma's death faced deportation

A Massachusetts woman killed as she slept in her bed by a bullet fired through her ceiling would be alive today, if the men accused of shooting her had been deported, according to anti-illegal immigration activists.

Mirta Rivera, 41, a nurse and grandmother from Lawrence, was shot July 4 from an upstairs apartment where two illegal immigrants lived despite being under federal deportation orders, according to the Boston Herald. Dominican Republic nationals Wilton Lara-Calmona and Jose M. Lara-Mejia both had long histories of sneaking into the U.S.

The case, as well as a pending murder case in neighboring Connecticut involving an illegal immigrant accused in the stabbing death of a woman, comes after the July 1 murder of Kathryn Steinle in San Francisco helped propel illegal immigrant crime into a hot-button national issue.




YES SHOULD HAVE DEPORTED HIM ACTUALLY YOU CATCH HIM ONCE YOU PUT IN THE COMPUTER SECOND STRIKE YOU ARE OUT (6 foot under) That would take care of the issue. THE USA DOES NOT OWE THE PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES ANYTHING

[Spurminator]

Truth be told, McCain is anti-veteran and always has been. He carries a deep and spiteful vendetta against those veterans who were NOT captured.

:lol Who said that?

[ChumpDumper]

lol ducks is all in on Trump

[ducks]

"The reality is that John McCain the politician has made America less safe, sent our brave soldiers into wrong-headed foreign adventures, covered up for President Obama with the VA scandal and has spent most of his time in the Senate pushing amnesty. He would rather protect the Iraqi border than Arizona's,"

[boutons_deux]

In Defense of Donald Trump’s Slam on John McCain

John McCain is a prick. It’s true.

We have to acknowledge that out of the gate because media coverage of the controversy over Donald Trump’s slam on McCain omits the fact that McCain baited Trump.

McCain started it.

McCain always starts it.

First McCain went after Trump’s anti-immigration supporters, calling them “crazies (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2015/07/20/mccain-wont-apologize-term-endearment-call-trump-supporters).” McCain has a long history of denigrating his political opponents’ mental health (http://www.drudge.com/news/187363/mccain-cant-stop-laughing-wacko-bird).

For many years his phrase of choice was “wacko birds (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/03/08/mccain-calls-paul-cruz-amash-wacko-birds/),” or just wackos for short.

The fact that McCain has gotten away with his slurs for so many years is a tribute to hownon-litigious American society really is. Libel lawyers love it when someone calls their clients crazy. It’s one of those classic defamatory attacks (http://www.lawfirms.com/resources/personal-injury/libel-and-slander/elements-required-defamation.htm) that makes a libel lawsuit a cakewalk. This pays off a lot of lawyers’ yachts.

What’s amazing is that John McCain never gotten sued.

This essay is in defense of Donald Trump’s slam on McCain and other comments about the Vietnam War that Trump made this weekend.

The Donald Trump vs. John McCain battle was inevitable.

John McCain starts fights and never apologizes. Donald Trump, in this case, fights back and never apologizes. Game on!

I’m not going to join the national pile-on over Trump’s ad-lib speaking style (http://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-slammed-on-sunday-morning-shows-as-bombastic-clown-known-for-douchebaggery-video/), his refusal to hire (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/20/us/politics/trump-refuses-to-apologize-for-comments-on-mccains-service.html?_r=0) a professional campaign staff, his hair (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/07/19/what-donald-trump-said-about-mccain-obama-immigrants-his-hair/) or his nativist remarks about Mexican rapists (http://crooksandliars.com/2015/07/donald-trump-attacking-mccain-exposes). Mainstream corporate media has that well in hand.

But the media is declaring Trump politically dead (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-cashes-donald-trump-dead-2016-campaign/story?id=32495812), even though he is running No. 1 in the polls (http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/17/politics/donald-trump-summer-surge/).

Worse, the media is always hard-pressing a meme I find disturbing: that no one should cover his campaign (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/01/the-many-reasons-to-stop-covering-donald-trump/384817/) for president. Or that it ought to be relegated, as the Huffington Posthas officially done, to the entertainment section (http://www.poynter.org/news/mediawire/358557/huffington-post-is-going-to-cover-trump-as-entertainment-not-politics/) of the news.

What?

Pot, meet kettle (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hi_pot,_meet_kettle). Arianna Huffington (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianna_Huffington), meet Donald Trump.

Trump’s comment was that McCain isn’t a war hero (http://www.eonline.com/news/677698/donald-trump-says-john-mccain-isn-t-a-war-hero-feels-the-wrath-of-meghan-mccain-jeb-bush-and-many-more) because he allowed himself to be captured by the North Vietnamese. Trump’s refusal to apologize for what he said runs contrary to the “all of our sainted troops are glorious heroes” militarist narrative.

Since 9/11, that narrative has been the gospel of both the Democratic and Republican parties, as well as the national news media.

Until Trump, no major public figure has dared to attack a high-profile military veteran, especially an A-lister like John McCain. McCain won a Silver Star after suffering torture, permanent physical injuries and more than five years of captivity as a POW in the infamous “Hanoi Hilton.”

No matter what you think about Trump’s puerile critique of McCain’s combat chops – what was McCain supposed to do, swallow a cyanide pill after his plane was shot down over Hanoi? — Americans have never been much into that Japanese-style “fight to the death” thing. So attempting to undermine the century-old myth of McCain as a war hero is a radical departure.

It’s a radical departure from what Americans are used to seeing and hearing.

Even more interesting – thrilling, even – was to see a preeminent right wing Republican businessperson and politician (yes, Trump is a politician) state unreservedly that the Vietnam War was a disaster.

That Vietnam was wrong had been the MSM narrative from the fall of Saigon in 1975 until the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980.

But around the time of the release of “Rambo: First Blood Part II (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089880/)” in 1985, it has been off limits to publicly say what had previously been conventional wisdom: The United States had no business fighting that war.

Trump said:

I was not a big fan of the Vietnam War … I wasn’t a protester, but the Vietnam War was a disaster for our country. What did we get out of the Vietnam War other than death? We got nothing.”


In public life, truer words have rarely been spoken.

In the context of Trump’s attack on McCain, the broader critique of the Vietnam War brings up an important question. And it’s one that Americans rarely discuss.

Is it possible to be a war hero if history judges that the war in which you fought was unjust?

The same question came up briefly in the ongoing Confederate flag controversy following the mass shooting in a black church in Charleston, South Carolina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston_church_shooting).

Sam Peckinpah (https://www.google.com/search?q=sam+peckinpah&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDgz4HnxCnfq6-gZFliXmFEgeIaVaeUakllp1spZ-WmZMLJqxSMotSk0vyi4K2ZT9fZjA3bdrxyfqx1e2VK0s-_QAAJQJKl0wAAAA&sa=X&ved=0CLYBEJsTKAEwGGoVChMI45zx6pHqxgIVAo0NCh3sogOq) ’s 1977 film “Cross of Iron (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074695/),” which showcases personal bravery among Nazi troops fighting on the Eastern front during World War II, says the answer is yes.

Personally, I’d argue that the answer is maybe.

But if you enlisted voluntarily and willingly, like McCain? No.

Millions of other Americans, recognizing that the Vietnam War was immoral and illegal,refused to go even when they were drafted (http://time.com/3378546/vietnam-draft/).

McCain should have done the same.

Trump got out of military service due to “bone spurs” in his foot.

And good for him, I say.

If there’s anything to impugn about McCain’s service from a nationalistic viewpoint, it’s the fact that he ultimately caved in to his North Vietnamese torturers by signing a confession (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jan/17/mccains-pow-record-attacked/) that he had committed war crimes.

Having never been in the position of being tortured — and being tortured with no hope of imminent release or even imminent death — I can’t say what I would have done in the same position.

You’d like to think that you would spit in the faces of your captors and tell them to go to hell. But really, there’s no telling.

As he is wont to do, however, Trump just got silly when he claimed to be a veterans’ advocate.

“I’m with the veterans all the time,” he said.

Cue eye rolling.

Yet Trump scored back points when he went after McCain on one of America’s great shames, its long-standing failure to take proper care of those who serve in its wars (http://www.creators.com/liberal/ted-rall/military-service-is-for-suckers-.html). Trump said:

John McCain talks a lot, but he doesn’t do anything. I don’t like the job that John McCain is doing in the Senate because he’s not taking care of our veterans. Some of these people wait four or five days just to see a doctor. They sit in a reception room, which is dirty and filthy and disgusting.”


This is all true.

It is fascinating to watch how Trump has managed to attack militarism from the right.

In his USA Today opinion piece (http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/07/19/donald-trump-republican-party-presidential-candidate-editorials-debates/30389993/) explaining his comments about McCain and Vietnam, Trump wrote:

John McCain the politician has made America less safe and sent our brave soldiers into wrong-headed foreign adventures.”


Who could have imagined, even a week ago, that a right wing, Silver Star-winning media darling like McCain could successfully be attacked for his repeated votes in favor of war? Not to mention his belligerence against other countries, like Iran?

This morning on the Today show, Trump told host Matt Lauer (http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-says-john-mccain-war-hero-doesnt-apologize-t33191) that he never said John McCain wasn’t a hero. Trump reaffirmed comments he’d made saying that McCain really owed veterans an apology.

“I’m not a fan of John McCain,” the Republican presidential contender told Lauer in a phone interview. “He’s done a horrible job for the vets.”

Trump may be inconsistent, bombastic, egotistical, and evasive on the issue of his personal wealth (http://www.msnbc.com/up/watch/how-much-is-donald-trump-actually-worth--486955587524), but he is bringing up important issues and a refreshing point of view which has been suppressed far too long.

That’s good for all of us.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/07/21/defense-donald-trumps-slam-john-mccain

[Clipper Nation]

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with a Boutons spam article. I'd also add that McCain - despite knowing the horrors of war intimately - is so much of a chickenhawk that he made up a "funny" jingle about bombing an entire country. He always gets a free pass for his bullshit by playing the "war hero" card.

[ChumpDumper]

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with a Boutons spam article. I'd also add that McCain - despite knowing the horrors of war intimately - is so much of a chickenhawk that he made up a "funny" jingle about bombing an entire country. He always gets a free pass for his bullshit by playing the "war hero" card.Speaking of Iran, what is Trump's policy regarding Iran?

[ducks]

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with a Boutons spam article. I'd also add that McCain - despite knowing the horrors of war intimately - is so much of a chickenhawk that he made up a "funny" jingle about bombing an entire country. He always gets a free pass for his bullshit by playing the "war hero" card.I am so sick f his war hero card and him every other weekend on tv during a dbacks game

[boutons_deux]

a psychiatric evaluation of McCain underwent while a prisoner of war in North Vietnam. The psych0logical portrait drawn by Spanish psychiatrist Fernando Barral is that of a deeply narcissistic personality, cold, hardened and largely devoid of human empathy, a man who seemed to view the bombing of civilian populations as a kind of sport. These aggressive personality traits have also characterized his nasty political career.–

The top war-monger in Congress has been Senator John McCain, Republican from Arizona, seeker of the Republican presidential nomination. In one rhetorical bombing run after another, McCain has bellowed for “lights out in Belgrade” and for NATO to “cream” the Serbs. At the start of May he began declaiming in the US senate for the NATO forces to use “any means necessary” to destroy Serbia.

McCain is often called a “war hero”, a title adorning an unlovely resume starting with a father who was an admiral and graduation fifth from the bottom at the US Naval Academy, where he earned the nickname “McNasty”. McCain flew 23 bombing missions over North Vietnam, each averaging about half an hour, total time ten hours and thirty minutes. For these brief excursions the admiral’s son was awared two Silver Stars, two Legions of Merit, two Distinguished Flying Crosses, three Bronze Stars, the Vietnamese Legion of Honor and three Purple Hearts. US Veteran Dispatch calculates our hero earned a medal an hour, which is pretty good going. McCain was shot down over Hanoi on October 26, 1967 and parachuted into Truc Boch Lake, whence he was hauled by Vietnamese, and put in prison.

A couple of years later he was interviewed in prison camp by Fernando Barral, a Spanish psychiatrist living in Cuba. The interview appeared in Granma on January 24, 1970.

Barral’s evaluation of McCain is quoted by Amy Silverman, author of many excellent pieces on McCain in the Phoenix-based New Timesweekly. Here’s how Barral described “the personality of the prisoner who is responsible for many criminal bombings of the people.” Barral goes on, “He (McCain) showed himself to be intellectually alert during the interview. From a morale point of view he is not in traumatic shock. He was able to be sarcastic, and even humorous, indicative of psychic equilibrium. From the moral and ideological point of view he showed us he is an insensitive individual without human depth,who does not show the slightest concern, who does not appear to have thought about the criminal acts he committed against a population from the absolute impunity of his airplane, and that nevertheless those people saved his life, fed him, and looked after his health and he is now healthy and strong. I believe that he has bombed densely populated places for sport. I noted that he was hardened, that he spoke of banal things as if he were at a cocktail party.”

McCain is deeply loved by the press. As Silverman puts it, “As long as he’s the noble outsider, McCain can get away with anything it seems – the Keating Five, a drug stealing wife, nasy jokes about Chelsea Clinton – and the pundits will gurgle and coo.”

Indeed they will. William Safire, Maureen Dowd, Russell Baker, theNew Yorker, the New York Times Magazine, Vanity Fair, have all slobbered over McCain in empurpled prose. The culmination was a love poem from Mike Wallace in 60 Minutes, who managed to avoid any inconvenient mention of McCain’s close relationship with S & L fraudster Charles Keating, with whom the senator and his kids romped on Bahamian beaches. McCain was similarly spared scrutiny for his astonishing claim that he knew nothing of his wife’s scandalous dealings. His vicious temper has escaped rebuke.

McCain’s escape from the Keating debacle was nothing short of miraculous, probably the activity for which he most deserves a medal. :lol A

fter all, he took more than $100,000 in campaign contributions from the swindler Keating between 1982 and 1988, while simultaneously log-rolling for Keating on Captitol Hill. In the same period McCain took nine trips to Keating’s place in the Bahamas. When the muck began to rise, McCain threw Keating over the side, hastily reimbursed him for the trips and suddenly developed a profound interest in campaign finance reform.

The pundits love McCain because of his grandstanding on soft money’s baneful role in politics, thus garnering for himself a reputation for willingness to court the enmity of his colleagues.

In fact colleagues in the Senate regard McCain as a mere grandstander. They know that he already has a big war chest left over from his last senatorial campaign, plus torrents of pac money from the corporations that crave his indulgence, as chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee.

Communications companies (US West, Bell South, ATT, Bell Atlantic), have been particularly effusive in McCain’s treasury, as have banks, military contractors and UPS. They also know he has a rich wife and the certain knowledge that his supposed hopes for an ending to soft money spending will never receive any practical legislative application.

McCain is the kind of Republican that liberals love: solid military credentials as a former POW, ever ready with acceptable sound-bites on campaign finance reform and other cherished issues. Thus it was that McCain drew enthusiastic plaudits last year when he rose in the Senate chamber to denounce theinsertion of $200 million worth of pork in the military construction portion of the defense authorisation bill. Eloquently, he spoke of the 11,200 service families on food stamps, the lack of modern weapons supplied to the military, the declining levels of readiness in the armed forces. Bravely, he laid the blame at the doors of his colleagues: “I could find only one commonality to these projects, and that is that 90 percent of them happened to be in the state or districts of members of the Appropriations Committees.” Sternly, in tones befitting a Cato or a Cicero, the senator urged his colleagues to ponder their sacred duty to uphold the defense of the Republic rather than frittering away the public purse on such frivolous expenditure: “We live in avery dangerous world. We will have some serious foreign policy crises. I am not sure we have the military that is capable of meeting some of these foreseeable threats, but I know that what we are doing with this $200 million will not do a single thing to improve our ability to meet that threat.”

In the gallery, partisans of pork-free spending silently cheered while those who hoped to profit from portions of the $200 million gnashed their teeth in chagrin. Yet, such emotions were misplaced on either side. This was vintage McCain. Had he wished to follow words with deeds, he could have called for a roll-call on the items he had just denounced so fervently. That way the looters and gougers would have had to place their infamy on the record. But, no, McCain simply sat down and allowed the offending expenditure to be authorised in the anonymous babble of a voice vote (“All those in favor say Aye”). Had McCain really had the courage of his alleged convictions he could have filibustered the entire $250 billion authorisation bill, but, inevitably, no such bravery was in evidence. Instead, when the $250 billion finally came to a vote, he ^voted for it.

This miserable display provides useful insights into the reason for McCain’s ineffectiveness on issues such as campaign finance that have garnered him so much favorable publcity. A conservative Senate staffer offers these observations on McCain’s fundamental weakness of character: “The real question is why this Senator did not use the strong leverage he has to insist that his ‘ethical’ position be incorporated into a major bill? After all, Senator McCain couched his concerns in issues of the highest national importance: readiness, modernization, and the military’s ability to defeat the threats we face (whatever they are). “Pragmatism is the most commonly heard excuse. If McCain had made a pain out of himself in insisting on keeping the unneeded and wasteful pork out of the Milcon Authorization bill, some people would argue he would have lost comity with his Senate colleagues. They wouldn’t respect him anymore; they would have been angry with him, because he kept them up late (it was about 10:30 pm), and they would have been embarrassed by his showing them up as pork-meisters. This would weaken his ability to get things done.

“This argument assumes politics in the US Senate is a popularity contest: if you want to get anything done around here, you have to go along and get along. Well, this place is a popularity contest, but it is supposed to be one with the voters, not one’s colleagues. Besides, this place doesn’t really operate that way. Here, they have contempt for fluffy show pieces. Show them you mean business, and you’re someone who has to be dealt with (rather than a talk-only type), and you’ll begin to get some results. Get ready for a fight, though, because they are some on the other side who are no push-overs.

Obviously, Mr. McCain was not prepared to make that investment.”

This article appeared in the May 1999 edition of CounterPunch magazine.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/20/the-horrors-of-john-mccain-war-hero-or-war-criminal/ (http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/20/the-horrors-of-john-mccain-war-hero-or-war-criminal/)

[ducks]

What The Media Doesn't Get About Donald Trump
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/donald-trump-john-mccain-ant-man-hillary-clinton-124576220850.html

[ducks]

Trump heads to border amid 3rd party threat

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/23/politics/donald-trump-border-visit-texas/index.html

Trump heads to border amid 3rd party threat

[unleashbaynes]

Donald Trump isn't a real candidate. He's a plant sent to say stupid shit and take all the heat off of other candidates. Then they get to look sane and competent in comparison, when really they're a bunch of snakes.

[ducks]

Border Patrol union pulls out of Trump meeting

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/23/border-patrol-union-pulls-out-trump-meeting/

He said the border with Mexico is "not secure," and an "honest discussion" is needed with the American people. But he expressed concern that a meeting with Trump would have been portrayed as an endorsement.

"As Local 2455, our intentions to meet with Mr. Trump was to provide a 'Boots on the Ground' perspective to not only Mr. Trump, but to the media that would be in attendance at this event," he said. "Just to be clear, an endorsement was never discussed for any presidential candidate. Local 2455 does not endorse candidates for any political office. For these reasons, Local 2455 will not participate in any events with Mr. Trump."

In a written statement responding to the development, the Trump campaign said the local union was "totally silenced directly from superiors in Washington who do not want people to know how bad it is on the border --- every bit as bad as Mr. Trump has been saying."

[boutons_deux]

A Repug mucky muck for Laredo on NPR this morning spinning Trump's visit that (95% Latino) Laredo appreciates someone who speaks the truth (of his racism, xenophobia, nativism, hate for Mexicans). :lol

[DarrinS]

Donald Trump isn't a real candidate. He's a plant sent to say stupid shit and take all the heat off of other candidates. Then they get to look sane and competent in comparison, when really they're a bunch of snakes.

tinfoiler

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump Visits Border in Laredo, ‘Despite the Great Danger’ (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/23/donald-trumps-border-visit-stirs-passions-in-laredo/)

From the moment he landed, wearing a white “Make America Great Again” baseball cap, Donald J. Trump’s visit to the border of Mexico and the United States seemed to know only one speed: full throttle.

Dozens of police officers on motorcycles blocked traffic and escorted the Trump campaign entourage, which included two chartered buses of reporters that swept through the streets of downtown Laredo.

One bus driver was told nothing in terms of a final destination except “be sure to follow the vehicle in front of you.”

The winding ensemble hit the road minutes after Mr. Trump landed in his plane. He held a brief news conference in the lobby of the airport here, where he repeatedly referred to the personal danger he faced at the border, but affirmed that “I have to do it, I love this country.” :lol

(Laredo, for what it’s worth, is one of the safest cities in the state.)

In just three minutes, he managed to disparage Rick Perry, the former governor of Texas and a rival for the Republican presidential nomination, saying he “did a terrible job as governor of Texas,” and then his own security detail, albeit perhaps unintentionally, telling reporters that “we’ll see you at the border,” before adding, with emphasis, “hopefully.”

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/23/donald-trumps-border-visit-stirs-passions-in-laredo/?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

[unleashbaynes]

tinfoiler

Nope just seeing right through the bullshit unlike your dumbass self.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Donald Trump Visits Border in Laredo, ‘Despite the Great Danger’ (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/23/donald-trumps-border-visit-stirs-passions-in-laredo/)

From the moment he landed, wearing a white “Make America Great Again” baseball cap, Donald J. Trump’s visit to the border of Mexico and the United States seemed to know only one speed: full throttle.

Dozens of police officers on motorcycles blocked traffic and escorted the Trump campaign entourage, which included two chartered buses of reporters that swept through the streets of downtown Laredo.

One bus driver was told nothing in terms of a final destination except “be sure to follow the vehicle in front of you.”

The winding ensemble hit the road minutes after Mr. Trump landed in his plane. He held a brief news conference in the lobby of the airport here, where he repeatedly referred to the personal danger he faced at the border, but affirmed that “I have to do it, I love this country.” :lol

(Laredo, for what it’s worth, is one of the safest cities in the state.)

In just three minutes, he managed to disparage Rick Perry, the former governor of Texas and a rival for the Republican presidential nomination, saying he “did a terrible job as governor of Texas,” and then his own security detail, albeit perhaps unintentionally, telling reporters that “we’ll see you at the border,” before adding, with emphasis, “hopefully.”

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/23/donald-trumps-border-visit-stirs-passions-in-laredo/?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0



I watched his presser at lunch and it was hilarious.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You know the left is scared when huffpo pulls shit like this

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/55a8fc9ce4b0896514d0fd66?

[ChumpDumper]

You know the left is scared when huffpo pulls shit like this

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/55a8fc9ce4b0896514d0fd66?Eh, the WSJ agrees.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Eh, the WSJ agrees.
Not surprising, Trump shit on the entire media today in Laredo.

[hitmanyr2k]

Donald Trump isn't a real candidate. He's a plant sent to say stupid shit and take all the heat off of other candidates. Then they get to look sane and competent in comparison, when really they're a bunch of snakes.

Trump isn't a real candidate but he's not a plant either. He's in this for the attention and self-promotion. How many times has he pulled this "I'm running for President" stunt now? He never truly takes it seriously. It's all about talking himself up saying how successful he is, how rich he is, look at the big crowds coming to hear me talk blah blah blah. I honestly think he's a guy that has all this money, is bored out of his fuckin mind, craves more attention than a Kardashian and this is the only way he can fill those needs.

[spurraider21]

:lol... i cant believe trump is actually emerging as a legitimate candidate
:lol gop

[ElNono]

:lol... i cant believe trump is actually emerging as a legitimate candidate
:lol gop

IMO, shillary or bill are ponying up the campaign...

[ChumpDumper]

Not surprising, Trump shit on the entire media today in Laredo.This was three days ago.

[TheSanityAnnex]

This was three days ago.
Is that what you think?

[ChumpDumper]

Is that what you think?Four actually.

[ducks]

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/658813

[ducks]

Glenn Spencer: Union Fears Trump Could Stop Illegals From Entering US

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/658837

[ElNono]

:lol Is that your guy, ducks? You write like somebody that would vote for him, tbh...

[boutons_deux]

For Aging GOP Voters, The Times They Are A-Changin’

Needless to say, GOP strategists are tearing their hair out, hardly believing their bad luck. After a grueling series of primary debates damaged their brand in the 2012 presidential cycle, they tried to rein them in, hoping to show voters a cast of serious and sober candidates.

But the superficial changes — including cutting the number of primary debates — don’t get to the much larger problem afflicting the

Republican Party: Its strategists have spent decades appealing to the worst instincts of their constituents, and they are now reaping what they’ve sown. It’s the voters, after all, who are keeping Trump’s hopes alive.

Those voters have been treated to years of bombast and propaganda as Republican politicians pandered to their fears, their prejudices, their hatreds. The late Lee Atwater confessed that GOP pols perfected a strategy of playing to the bigotry of whites uncomfortable with the changes wrought by the civil rights movement. Too savvy to denigrate black Americans directly, they used a coded language, Atwater said in an interview: “… You’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites …”

That vile Southern strategy was never retired. It was simply given a 2.0 upgrade (http://www.nationalmemo.com/giving-the-gays-guns-and-god-bloc-reason-to-stay-home-in-2016/) that denounces Islam, defames Mexicans and slanders gays and lesbians. Oh, and savages President Obama.

Having been fed that drivel for half a century, aging GOP voters are hardly going to suddenly surrender their gospel truths.

No, Trump’s appeal won’t last. But the prejudices that are animating so many GOP primary voters are more enduring. And that’s where party leaders need to start their work.

As an aging (and angry) white Southern reader once said to me: “I’m being told that everything I was taught as a child is wrong!” (:lol yep, you were lied to, brainwashed with hate)
http://www.nationalmemo.com/for-aging-gop-voters-the-times-they-are-achangin/

Repugs created and pandered to their monstrous base with lies, hate, prejudice, paranoia, "enemies", and now the monster is out of control.

[boutons_deux]

It’s not who he is, it’s who he hates: The secret to Donald Trump’s toxic appeal

It’s not what Trump’s for that makes his fans love him. They love him instead because of what he is against. Even more specifically, it’s who he’s against — and who is against him — that, in Trump’s backers’ eyes, makes him so great. Obviously, when it comes to the “haters” and “losers” (http://www.bustle.com/articles/90984-29-donald-trump-tweets-about-haters-losers-morons-lightweights-that-prove-that-he-should-probably) who comprise Trump’s enemies, Mexicans and other immigrants are at the top of the list. After all, these are the “criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc. (http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-epic-statement-on-mexico-2015-7)” who are taking American jerbs (http://southpark.cc.com/clips/104259/they-took-our-jobs) and bringing in “infectious disease.” But it’s not only Latinos who are to be hated; it’s China (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donald-trump-chinese-diplomats-should-be-taken-mcdonalds-1512026) and Japan (http://www.vox.com/2015/6/23/8826245/donald-trump-japan-peril), too.

Racism and xenophobia are operative here, no doubt.

But Trump’s brand of populist rage is rather free-floating; and his supporters seem to be even more passionate about his domestic foes. As Elspeth Reeve put it (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122220/22-year-old-really-wants-donald-trump-be-president) in the New Republic, some Trumpites love him because he is so aggressively politically incorrect. “He doesn’t know what ‘PC’ means,” as one New Hampshire supporter raved. For these people, Reeve writes, Trump is appealing because “he violates social taboos but not their own political sensibilities.” He says what they believe but don’t have the guts to say for themselves.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/25/its_not_who_he_is_its_who_he_hates_the_secret_to_d onald_trumps_toxic_appeal/

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao SJWSalon

[boutons_deux]

Trump takes GOP lead in New Hampshire, moving up on Walker in Iowa: pollshttp://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/trump-takes-gop-lead-in-new-hampshire-moving-up-on-walker-in-iowa-polls/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

It's looks like hate, ignorance, racism, xenophobia are more widespread and deeper in the Repug base than even I expected.

[JoeChalupa]

Yeah, I just saw where he is still leading in the polls. Conservatives are just making a statement to awaken the other candidates to what they want.

[boutons_deux]

In Bid to Take Attention from Trump, Other Fifteen Hopefuls Release Joint Sex Tape

http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Borowitz-GOP-Joint-Sex-Tape-690.jpg

WASHINGTON —In what critics are calling a desperate attempt to draw the media’s attention away from Donald Trump, the other fifteen candidates for the Republican nomination have released a joint sex tape.

The tape, including such luminaries as former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, Texas senator Ted Cruz, former Florida governor Jeb Bush, and New Jersey governor Chris Christie, appeared briefly on major news Web sites before an avalanche of viewer revulsion demanded it be taken down.


According to Carol Foyler, a viewer who happened to catch the tape during its brief appearance on the CNN Web site, the video contained images “I may never be able to get out of my mind.”

“I couldn’t believe that these people would participate in such a thing,” she said. “Except maybe Santorum.” :lol

A spokesman for Rick Perry defended the former Texas governor’s appearance on the tape. “It changed the conversation, at least for a minute or two,” the spokesman said.

Possibly as a result of his exclusion from the sex tape, in the aftermath of its release Trump has surged another eleven points in the latest poll.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/in-bid-to-take-attention-from-trump-other-fifteen-hopefuls-release-joint-sex-tape?mbid=nl_Borowitz%20(30)&cndid=&mbid=nl_Borowitz%20(30)&CNDID=&spMailingID=7938759&spUserID=MjczNzc0Njk0NDAS1&spJobID=723690913&spReportId=NzIzNjkwOTEzS0

[Clipper Nation]

http://i.imgur.com/5N5fpi3.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

lol dude isn't even a conservative

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump Never Raped His Wife And Even If He Did It Was Classy
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-16-at-10.04.45-AM.png

the Daily Beast reminds us (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html)that during his very classy and completely amicable divorce from Ivana, the former Mrs. Trump accused Donald of raping her.

This is not entirely unknown, as the incident is discussed in a 1993 book, Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump, (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393030296/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=0393030296&link_code=as3&tag=wonkette0f-20&linkId=GBUC5WSPIKKM5HDM) by Harry Hurt III, which is really not a porn name at all.

The details of the accusation, from a deposition in the divorce case, are sordid and gross, and not only because they involve Donald Trump.

Also, the Daily Beast piece informs us that one of Trump’s attorneys, Michael Cohen, is one huge asshole; his epic hissy-fit at Daily Beast reporters Tim Mak and Brandy Zadrozny is a story in itself.

Will any of it hurt the Trump campaign?

Why would it?

Trump supporters love him because he’s a sociopath, (http://wonkette.com/591649/donald-trump-winning-because-plenty-of-republicans-like-loudmouthed-dickheads) and for all we know, a little rape story could actually boost his popularity since the mean liberal media is beating up on him.

http://wonkette.com/592221/donald-trump-never-raped-his-wife-and-even-if-he-did-it-was-classy

[Clipper Nation]

Accused =/= guilty. Speaking of rape, why does Bernie Sanders have rape fantasies?

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/29/410606045/the-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-explained

Dude is one sick fuck, tbh.

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump's only real foreign policy idea: steal foreigners' oil

It looks like Donald Trump's presidential campaign is going to be with us for a little while longer, and probably through the first Republican debate. At some point, then, it becomes impossible to avoid talking about Trump's policies — yes, even his foreign policy.

Trump doesn't really like talking about policy, and he doesn't have what you might call a clear policy agenda. But there is one quote that really gets to the core of his foreign policy worldview and what a Trump administration foreign policy would look like. Here it is, from a 2011 TV appearance (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/04/04/155527/trump-iraq-oil-soldiers-died-vain/) (emphasis mine):

I very simply said that Iran is going to takeover Iraq, and if that’s going to happen, we should just stay there and take the oil. They want the oil, and why should we? We de-neutered Iraq, Iran is going to walk in, take it over, take over the second largest oil fields in the world. That’s going to happen. That would mean that all of those soldiers that have died and been wounded and everything else would have died in vain– and I don’t want that to happen. I want their parents and their families to be proud.


Yes, Trump believes that America should "take Iraq's oil."

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/28/9057899/donald-trump-steal-oil

"de-neutered Iraq" WTF?

Taking Iraq oil is exactly echoing dickhead's National Energy Policy of 2001 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/17/AR2007071701987.html

[Clipper Nation]

Accused =/= guilty. Speaking of rape, why does Bernie Sanders have rape fantasies?

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/29/410606045/the-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-explained

Dude is one sick fuck, tbh.
:lol I see Boutons_shill has quickly pivoted after this.

[ChumpDumper]

Accused =/= guilty. Speaking of rape, why does Bernie Sanders have rape fantasies?

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/29/410606045/the-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-explained

Dude is one sick fuck, tbh.Do you think Bernie Sanders raped anyone?

[boutons_deux]

:lol I see Boutons_shill has quickly pivoted after this.

no, your bullshit doesn't make me pivot. I just keep posting quotes and shit from your rigthwingnut heroes.

[Clipper Nation]

Do you think Bernie Sanders raped anyone?
No, never said he did. Do you think Trump raped anyone?

[ChumpDumper]

No, never said he did. Do you think Trump raped anyone?I'd have to know more about the accusation tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

I'd have to know more about the accusation tbh.
Ivana herself has admitted multiple times that she lied:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-wife-ivana-disavows-rape-allegation/story?id=32732204

[tlongII]

Donald Trump's only real foreign policy idea: steal foreigners' oil

It looks like Donald Trump's presidential campaign is going to be with us for a little while longer, and probably through the first Republican debate. At some point, then, it becomes impossible to avoid talking about Trump's policies — yes, even his foreign policy.

Trump doesn't really like talking about policy, and he doesn't have what you might call a clear policy agenda. But there is one quote that really gets to the core of his foreign policy worldview and what a Trump administration foreign policy would look like. Here it is, from a 2011 TV appearance (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/04/04/155527/trump-iraq-oil-soldiers-died-vain/) (emphasis mine):

I very simply said that Iran is going to takeover Iraq, and if that’s going to happen, we should just stay there and take the oil. They want the oil, and why should we? We de-neutered Iraq, Iran is going to walk in, take it over, take over the second largest oil fields in the world. That’s going to happen. That would mean that all of those soldiers that have died and been wounded and everything else would have died in vain– and I don’t want that to happen. I want their parents and their families to be proud.


Yes, Trump believes that America should "take Iraq's oil."

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/28/9057899/donald-trump-steal-oil

"de-neutered Iraq" WTF?

Taking Iraq oil is exactly echoing dickhead's National Energy Policy of 2001 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/17/AR2007071701987.html




Why not take their oil? Better us than Iran.

[ChumpDumper]

Ivana herself has admitted multiple times that she lied:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-wife-ivana-disavows-rape-allegation/story?id=32732204That's what I'm talking about.

[boutons_deux]

As Irin Carmon at msnbc.com writes (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/meet-the-marital-rape-deniers), “There is a long history of conservative opposition to the very concept of marital rape, which is a fairly recent concept in law.”

She cites conservative pundit Phyllis Schlafly, Virginia legislator Richard Black, and the infamous Missouri congressman Todd Akin, all criticizing bans on spousal rape.

In most cases, they claim that they worry about the poor hypothetical husbands falsely accused by vindictive women during divorce proceedings. (Of course, people file false reports on other crimes, too, including assault and theft, but for some reason no one thinks the solution is to legalize those behaviors.)

But the fact that this attitude has a home in conservative circles shouldn’t really be a surprise. After all, resistance to the idea that all forced sex is rape is hardly limited to the question of spousal rape. Public discourse about sexual assault has been on the rise for years now, and the conservative punditry is still a reliable source of people spouting ignorance about rape that sounds more at home in some misogynist Internet forum (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/reddit-controversy-ellen-pao-libertarians) than in supposedly mainstream media.

Like James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal playing (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/11/james-taranto-rape-wall-street-journal_n_4766064.html) the “rape is just drunk girls expressing regret” card. (In reality, it’s that rapists pick intoxicated women because they know they won’t be believed.)

Or George Will suggesting that a clear-cut case of rape can’t count (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/08/wash-posts-george-will-sexual-assault-victim-is/199641) because the victim willingly dated the rapist in the past.

Or Andrea Tantaros on Fox News whining, “Where’s the personal responsibility for both sides?”—by which she means the victim and the rapist. “Really!” she continued. “If we say ‘personal responsibility for women,’ the feminists go berserk! They’re like, ‘No, we should be able to wear whatever we want and drink as much as we want and pass out in the streets.’”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/trump-spousal-rape-controversy-bigger-than-lawyer?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

Repugs, conservatives are pro-rape misogynists. No need to wonder why Dems vacuum up a huge majority of the female voters.

[boutons_deux]

Mark Cuban Has the Dumbest Reason For Supporting Donald Trump

I don't care what his actual positions are. I don't care if he says the wrong thing. He says what's on his mind. He gives honest answers rather than prepared answers. This is more important than anything any candidate has done in years.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/07/the-lakers-are-the-best-team-in-the-nba

https://www.yahoo.com/sy/nn/fp/rsz/072815/images/smush/donaldandivanatrump_635x250_1438100871.jpg

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump Wants To Tap Sarah Palin
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/trumpalin_2.jpg

I would love that because she really is somebody that knows what’s happening, and she’s a special person. She’s really a special person. And I think people know that.

And she’s got a following that’s unbelievable. I still have people saying, “Oh, get Sarah’s support, get Sarah’s support!” No matter where I go, everybody loves her. And she’s got a tremendous — she has, like me, she’s got some people that don’t exactly love us, and we understand who they are, and you sort of forget about that.

But she has a tremendously loyal group of people out there for her, and I think now maybe more so than ever, you know — I’m looking at some of these candidates.

They’re weak, they’re ineffective, and you know, to a degree that’s actually almost hard to believe. And you know they like the Sarah Palin kind of strength. You just don’t see much of it anymore.

One of the things I most admire about her is that she took so much nonsense — lies and disgusting lies — and she handles it so well. She’s tough and smart and just a great woman.

http://wonkette.com/592272/donald-trump-wants-to-tap-sarah-palin-wonkette-dies-of-orgasms



Grifter News:

Sarah Palin's PAC, like her TV career, on the wane

Unlike many political action committees, very little of the $753,000 it spent from Jan. 1 to June 30 went directly to political candidates and committees.

Instead, SarahPAC’s top expenditures largely helped fortify its own existence — or help Palin personally.

Federal rules governing spending by “leadership PACs” — committees run by current or former elected officials — are notoriously (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/leadership-pacsslush-funds-says-fmr-fec-chair/) permissive (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/leadership-pacs-politicians-spend-money-leisure-golf/story?id=8675725), with both Democrats and Republicans regularly using the cash to fund lavish travel, pricey gifts or just about any other self-indulgent expense.

Top SarahPAC expenditures include:


$230,250 on consultants, including $80,500 to longtime aide and PAC treasurer Timothy Crawford
$139,932 on direct mail, produced by conservative fundraising firm HSP Direct (http://hspdirect.com/clients/)
$128,482 on postage, printing and related supplies
$82,213 on travel and accommodations, including airfare, hotels, car and SUV rentals, travel agents and taxis. The Waldorf Astoria in New York City ($4,562) and Venetian Resort Hotel Casino in Las Vegas ($797) were two particularly pricey hotel choices. The $3,854 SarahPAC paid a New York-based limousine company came on Feb. 19, right after Palin appeared (http://www.etonline.com/tv/159799_lingering_questions_about_the_snl_40_annive rsary_special/) at the staging of Saturday Night Live’s 40th anniversary special, where she sat in the audience next to musician Taylor Swift.
$48,000 on speech writing, mostly to Aries Petra Consulting (https://sccefile.scc.virginia.gov/Business/S3025402), a small limited liability company registered in Virginia and based in Los Angeles
$37,354 on Internet fundraising through Austin, Texas-based Harris Media LLC (http://www.harrismediallc.com/), which works for numerous conservative politicians


SarahPAC spent $25,000 on candidate contributions during the first half of 2015 — less than 4 percent of its overall expenditures.

Reps. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas; Trey Gowdy, R-S.C.; Raul Labrador, R-Idaho; and Ted Yoho, R-Fla., are among the 43 candidates to receive SarahPAC cash so far this year, with most getting $500 — the per-election federal limit is $2,700.

Palin’s PAC has never given more than a small fraction (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/02/sarah-palin-s-donors-don-t-care-where-money-s-going.html) of its income away to Republicans it supports.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/2015/07/28/17713/sarah-palins-pac-her-tv-career-wane?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+publici_rss+%28The+Center+for +Public+Integrity+Latest+Stories%29

[spurraider21]

Donald Trump Never Raped His Wife And Even If He Did It Was Classy
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Screen-Shot-2015-07-16-at-10.04.45-AM.png

the Daily Beast reminds us (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html)that during his very classy and completely amicable divorce from Ivana, the former Mrs. Trump accused Donald of raping her.

This is not entirely unknown, as the incident is discussed in a 1993 book, Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump, (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393030296/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=0393030296&link_code=as3&tag=wonkette0f-20&linkId=GBUC5WSPIKKM5HDM) by Harry Hurt III, which is really not a porn name at all.

The details of the accusation, from a deposition in the divorce case, are sordid and gross, and not only because they involve Donald Trump.

Also, the Daily Beast piece informs us that one of Trump’s attorneys, Michael Cohen, is one huge asshole; his epic hissy-fit at Daily Beast reporters Tim Mak and Brandy Zadrozny is a story in itself.

Will any of it hurt the Trump campaign?

Why would it?

Trump supporters love him because he’s a sociopath, (http://wonkette.com/591649/donald-trump-winning-because-plenty-of-republicans-like-loudmouthed-dickheads) and for all we know, a little rape story could actually boost his popularity since the mean liberal media is beating up on him.

http://wonkette.com/592221/donald-trump-never-raped-his-wife-and-even-if-he-did-it-was-classy
this is the piece of shit journalism you read on a daily basis?

trump never raped his wife, GOP candidates sex tapes, mark cuban's reason for liking trump, trump wants to tap palin, etc

[Clipper Nation]

This is why neocons and other BigGov shills (like Boutons) are scared:

626125709606580224

[ChumpDumper]

President Giuliani suggests that you not get ahead of yourself.

[boutons_deux]

. (https://twitter.com/raedcabello/status/341596524402319361/photo/1)..

[Clipper Nation]

#CloseTheBorders #DeportAllIllegals

626140315116830721

[Splits]

#CloseTheBorders #DeportAllIllegals

626140315116830721

:lmao are you fucking serious?

:lol this has to be a joke, you're seriously trumped? :lmao

Who has ever advocated for "no borders"? :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao are you fucking serious?

:lol this has to be a joke, you're seriously trumped? :lmao

Who has ever advocated for "no borders"? :lmao
All the faggot libtards who want votes in the form of unrestricted immigrants streaming across the borders, for starters. Amnesty might as well be literally opening the borders since we're just rolling over and rewarding the law-breakers.

[ChumpDumper]

lol unrestricted

[Splits]

Man. I've seen stupidity in my life, on this site, wherever I go. It's one of the reasons I'm so wealthy. But I've literally never met anybody as dumb as CN unless he's trolling and I've been duped :lol

[Clipper Nation]

It's one of the reasons I'm so wealthy.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

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http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/AP_76843600705-690.jpg

Bar Officially Cannot Be Lowered

MINNEAPOLIS — A group of scholars who have been monitoring the descent of the bar over the past few decades have concluded that the bar can no longer be lowered, the scholars announced on Friday.

The academics, led by Professor Davis Logsdon, of the University of Minnesota, published their conclusion after their research definitively found that the bar had finally dropped to its lowest possible position.


“For those who thought the bar still had room to be lowered, our findings resoundingly contradict that assumption,” Logsdon said. “The bar is now essentially flush with the ground.”

Logsdon acknowledged that he and his fellow scholars have come under fire in the past for claiming that the bar could not be further lowered, specifically when they issued a paper to that effect after the selection of the Republican Vice-Presidential nominee in 2008. ( :lol pitbull bitch, a joke for the ages! )

“We got that one wrong,” he said. “Clearly, the bar still had a way to go.”

Now that the issue of whether the bar can be further lowered has been settled, Logsdon and his colleagues plan to examine the question of whether there is anything left to scrape at the bottom of the barrel.

“Our findings are preliminary, but it appears that the answer is no,” he said.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/bar-officially-cannot-be-lowered

[Clipper Nation]

DJT brushing those haters off once again. They only get half a bar...

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[boutons_deux]

Repugs and Fox created a Repugentein monster, now out of controal

http://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/trumpnew17-24-01.png

that huffpo only, but very probably representative of the rest of the media coverage.

JimmyRicky! Go Team Texas! :lol

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http://otherwords.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Dog-Whistling-Is-So-Pass%C3%A91-600x432.jpg

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Trump University: How Donald Trump persuaded students to pay $35,000 to become just like him

From 2005 to 2010, Trump offered what he called "Trump University," which was supposed to offer instruction on becoming a real estate investor (http://www.vox.com/cards/donald-trump-election-explained/donald-trump-rich-billionaire).

This was a generous — and, New York officials claim, illegal — use of the term "university." Trump's institution wasn't chartered as a university; he later renamed it the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative. New

York's attorney general sued Trump in 2013, saying the operation was a fraud, and former students have filed a class-action suit asking for their money back.

Trump University implied students would meet Trump himself

Trump University, which launched in 2005, didn't promise a college degree. It was a series of seminars at escalating price points that purported to teach students the secrets of successful real estate investing. The "university" started with a free 90-minute seminar, continued to a three-day seminar that cost $1,495, and charged $35,000 for the "Trump Gold Elite" package, which promised personal mentorship from experienced instructors "handpicked by Trump."

At every seminar, students were told that the most valuable secrets were only available at the next, more expensive level, according to an investigation (http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/trump.pdf) from New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman. Students were encouraged to call their credit card companies and ask for a credit line increase, and were told it would raise their credit score. Such a request is more likely to lower your score than raise it — but the students would then be able to borrow more to pay for the most expensive programs.

The attorney general's office found that although the mentors were supposedly experienced real estate investors, Trump University didn't verify their credentials, and some had never worked in real estate or had declared bankruptcy. Some mentors simply disappeared after the three-day seminar, even though students had paid thousands of dollars for a full year of instruction.

Although the promotional materials suggested Trump himself was heavily involved, even in "handpicking" the instructors, there's no evidence that he was.

"He's the most celebrated entrepreneur on earth," one pitch began, according to Schneiderman's lawsuit. "He's earned more in a day than most people do in a lifetime. He's living a life many men and women only dream about. And now he's ready to share — with Americans like you — the Trump process for investing in today's once-in-a-lifetime real estate market. … You'll learn from Donald Trump's handpicked instructor a systematic method for investing in real estate that anyone can use effectively."

Schneiderman's investigation found that most of the curriculum came from an unnamed "third-party company that creates and develops materials for an array of motivational speakers and seminar and timeshare rental companies."

Students didn't meet Trump, but they did get the opportunity to take a photo with a life-size cardboard cutout of him.

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/29/9067429/trump-university

Trump as Pres, pitbull bitch as VEEP, two grifters in the WH.

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Jeb gets Trumped in his own state: New poll shows Bush losing Florida to The Donaldhttp://www.salon.com/2015/07/29/jeb_gets_trumped_in_his_own_state_new_poll_shows_b ush_losing_florida_to_the_donald/

[Clipper Nation]

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:cry But, but, he's racist! :cry

[TheSanityAnnex]

It fun watching Trump make liberal faggots like boutons squirm.

[boutons_deux]

:cry But, but, he's racist! :cry

Trump Campaign Manager: Round Up And Deport Immigrants Or Have Them 'Self-Deport

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/trump-campaign-manager-round-and-deport-immigrants-or-have-them-self-deport

[Clipper Nation]

Trump Campaign Manager: Round Up And Deport Immigrants Or Have Them 'Self-Deport

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/trump-campaign-manager-round-and-deport-immigrants-or-have-them-self-deport



:cry Enforcing the law is racist! :cry

[Clipper Nation]

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DJT: never bought, never influenced. Cue the salty tears from Boutons.

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you wimpering little bitches are really obsessed with The Great Boutons. Understandable after some many daily bitch slappings.

[Clipper Nation]

you wimpering little bitches are really obsessed with The Great Boutons. Understandable after some many daily bitch slappings.
You are so fucking butthurt that Trump turned down money from "the Kockenstein Monsters."

[TheSanityAnnex]

you wimpering little bitches are really obsessed with The Great Boutons. Understandable after some many daily bitch slappings.
If a boutons bitch slapping consists of slinking away from a thread and not responding after being called out sure, you are the master of bitch slappings.

[Clipper Nation]

http://i.imgur.com/77VMxlb.jpg

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[TheSanityAnnex]

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11140354_10152960789218375_7952570747615699414_n.j pg?oh=51667d16f38ef126eabcbbe803f1d9ed&oe=56464134
It's refreshing to hear a Presidential candidate publicly say what everyone else is thinking.

[Clipper Nation]

Trump to give kids free rides on his $7 million chopper at the Iowa State Fair:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3180443/Kissing-babies-old-fashioned-Donald-Trump-says-ll-bring-7-million-helicopter-campaign-trip-Iowa-State-Fair-free-rides-children.html

[boutons_deux]

It's refreshing to hear a Presidential candidate publicly say what everyone else is thinking.

uh, not EVERYONE.

[boutons_deux]

Women Voters Are Not Impressed By Donald Trump. Just 1 in 5 View Him Favorably

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/30/women-voters-impressed-donald-trump-1-5-view-favorably.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[boutons_deux]

Report: Trump's Companies Hire More Than 1,000 Foreign Workers

Companies owned by real estate mogul Donald Trump, who predicted in his presidential announcement speech that he'll "be the greatest jobs President that God ever created," have reportedly sought to secure visas for more than 1,100 foreign workers since 2000.

Reuters reported (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/01/us-usa-election-trump-exclusive-idUSKCN0Q62RQ20150801) late Friday on Trump's hiring practices, citing data from the U.S. Department of Labor. The report noted that Trump entities have sought the greatest number of workers through the H2-B temporary visa program, which mainly brings in workers from Mexico.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-donald-trump-hired-foreign-workers?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[Clipper Nation]

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[ChumpDumper]

CROFL I think Trump is the only Republican candidate who would lose to Bernie Sanders in a general election.


Trump, however, is underwater in potential matchups against Democratic candidates. He would lose to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton 48-36 percent -- and would also be bested by Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and even Vice President Joe Biden, who is not in the race.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2015/07/quinnipiac-poll-donald-trump-surges-in-gop-but-would-lose-to-democrats.html

[boutons_deux]

Trump: Documentary The Donald Suppressed, Free At Last

A documentary that Donald Trump, the Republican frontrunner, killed 25 years ago with threats of litigation is now available for all to view (https://player.vimeo.com/video/134895538?title=0&byline=0&portrait=0) on the Internet.

Trump: What’s The Deal (https://www.youtube.com/embed/7Qy75pRQKMU)? paints a powerful and disturbing picture of a financial Dorian Gray whose public image bears little resemblance to his conduct away from the cameras, including hiring actors for $50 each to applaud (http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/06/17/hollywood-reporter-donald-trump-campaign-paid-actors-50-to-cheer-on-his-announcement/) at his campaign announcement.

In public, Trump presents himself as a businessman so skilled his deals are an art form. The 80-minute documentary peels back this façade.

Hidden from public view, the documentary shows Trump manipulating politicians and the criminal justice system, pocketing millions in taxpayer welfare, not paying people he hired, doing some of his biggest deals with mobsters, retaining a cocaine dealer as his helicopter pilot, and evidently benefiting from having his sister working in the Justice Department before winning appointment as a federal judge. Former advisors and employees describe furious tirades that no one, not even his family, could escape.

The film reveals how Trump repeatedly engaged in questionable conduct — such as intimidating tenants of a Manhattan building he wanted to empty — but drew little attention from law enforcement. One top city official says on camera that Mayor Abe Beame, a childhood pal of Trump’s father Fred, instructed him that Donald Trump was to get whatever he wanted from city government.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-documentary-the-donald-suppressed-free-at-last/

[Clipper Nation]

More libcuck hypocrisy.

> "Benghazi and Hillary's emails aren't relevant!"

> "A 25-year-old biased documentary about Trump is relevant!"

[ChumpDumper]

More libcuck hypocrisy.

> "Benghazi and Hillary's emails aren't relevant!"

> "A 25-year-old biased documentary about Trump is relevant!"I doubt the documentary is relevant.

How are Benghazi and the emails relevant? No Googling, just your own words.

[angrydude]

I doubt the documentary is relevant.

How are Benghazi and the emails relevant? No Googling, just your own words.

Hilary was Sec. of State, an embassy was attacked and her employees were killed, the Obama administration lied to the American public and blamed the attack on a film maker, and people want to know if the deaths could have been avoided if Hillary displayed better leadership skills, the very same leadership skills she wants to use as President of the United States, but they can't because Hillary was holding her emails illegally in a personal server?

[Clipper Nation]

I doubt the documentary is relevant.

How are Benghazi and the emails relevant? No Googling, just your own words.
Both are scandals from this decade involving a current presidential candidate - not some lame hit piece of a documentary from 25 years ago.

[ChumpDumper]

Hillary's emails were being illegally held in her own private email serverNot illegal at all tbh. If you say it was illegal you will have to cite the law in effect at the time that was broken.


and people want to know if the deaths could have been avoided if Hillary displayed better leadership skills, the very same leadership skills she wants to use as President of the United States.How would the Secretary of State have led anything in that situation?

[boutons_deux]

Hilary was Sec. of State, an embassy was attacked and her employees were killed, the Obama administration lied to the American public and blamed the attack on a film maker, and people want to know if the deaths could have been avoided if Hillary displayed better leadership skills, the very same leadership skills she wants to use as President of the United States, but they can't because Hillary was holding her emails in an illegal personal server?

you're full of bullshit.

The Congressional Repugs investigated, witch hunted Benghazi in multiple committes OVER YEARS and have come up empty handed, as empty as you rightwingnut head.

Benghazi! Hillary actually murdered those 4 US citizens herself.

btw, the State Dept aske Repug Congress for more money for diplomatic mission security, the Repugs refused.

[ChumpDumper]

Both are scandals from this decade involving a current presidential candidate - not some lame hit piece of a documentary from 25 years ago.And how are they scandals again?

[Clipper Nation]

And how are they scandals again?
Because they are, David.

[angrydude]

you're full of bullshit.

The Congressional Repugs investigated, witch hunted Benghazi in multiple committes OVER YEARS and have come up empty handed, as empty as you rightwingnut head.

Benghazi! Hillary actually murdered those 4 US citizens herself.

btw, the State Dept aske Repug Congress for more money for diplomatic mission security, the Repugs refused.

When a murderer gets away with murder it's not called murder, it's called a missing person.

People want to know if Hillary Clinton is a fuck up, because nobody wants a fuck up as President of the United States, but they can't because Hillary is also a pathological liar.

[ChumpDumper]

Because they are, David.lol David, you sure have your ignorance on full display today. :tu

[boutons_deux]

It sounds like the documentary exposes the very nasty, bullying, vindictive character of Trump, which from the white-nationalist, racist, xenophobic shit he's spewing now, is still relevant.

How is his character not relevant (or has he become an angelic altar boy?) but Hillary's character is central to Repug attacks on her.

[Clipper Nation]

lol David, you sure have your ignorance on full display today. :tu
As always, I'm a lot smarter than you, David.

[ChumpDumper]

As always, I'm a lot smarter than you, David.Except you can't even say how Benghazi and Hillary's emails are scandals, David.

That means you are really quite stupid and ignorant.

lol

[Clipper Nation]

Except you can't even saw how Benghazi and Hillary's emails are scandals, David.

That means you are really quite stupid and ignorant.

lol
I "can't even saw"? Who's the stupid one again, David?

[ChumpDumper]

I "can't even saw"? Who's the stupid one again, David?Thanks, David. I edited the typo.

Now, how about you explain how Benghazi and Hillary's emails are scandals?

I know you can't, so you'll keep deflecting. Go ahead, David.

[Clipper Nation]

Thanks, David. I edited the typo.

Now, how about you explain how Benghazi and Hillary's emails are scandals?
:lol The "typo" excuse

Sorry, David, but you're just really, really dumb.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol The "typo" excuse

Sorry, David, but you're just really, really dumb.lol still deflecting.

Just as I predicted. I'm pretty smart that way.

Now deflect some more, David.

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When a murderer gets away with murder it's not called murder, it's called a missing person.

Hillary murdered somebody? Benghazi diplomats? Vince Foster?

you such sucker for propaganda and slander