ESPN First Take // Skip & Screamin' A. Smith Talk Spurs Offseason

[hooperflash]

http://youtu.be/n6c0erI4Np8

[spursparker9]

Bookmark first. later watch

[Darius Bieber]

In their projected line-up, Mills was not part of the team... Is he gone?

[Mal]

Who watch this shit ? Nothing worthy was said during this 9 minutes video

[NASpurs]

In their projected line-up, Mills was not part of the team... Is he gone?

WTF no

[TheDoctor]

Who watch this shit ? Nothing worthy was said during this 9 minutes video

You just did.

[hooperflash]

You just did.

The doctor is in.

[21209]

Skip was at his blowhard best just like I knew he would be.

[spurspokesman]

Skip is wagon hopping on our spurs wagon lol

[skulls138]

Skip was right pointing out Stephen A not giving Duncan enough credit. You win 5 championships you need good coaches AND players. Stephen A likes to paint Duncan as useless without Pop. I think Stephen A is mad because Kobe, much more than Duncan, needs a good coach to be successful

[Uriel]

Both agree that the Spurs are the favorite to win it all next season. That's all you really need to know.

[Obstructed_View]

Both agree that the Spurs are the favorite to win it all next season. That's all you really need to know.

Thank you. I closed the window as soon as I read your post.

[Mr. Body]

Stephen A. Smith is a bigot. He only likes black players with a perceived urban edge to them. He's an utter joke and ESPN is a joke because of him.

[soxxx]

Stephen A. Smith is a bigot. He only likes black players with a perceived urban edge to them. He's an utter joke and ESPN is a joke because of him.
He defended Deandre for his stunt. He said he was ok with him changing his mind. Now imagine if that was a white player doing that to a team, we all know he would be in an uproar about it.

[Blizzardwizard]

'My Spurs' :lol

Yeah, didn't this guy have a meltdown after the Spurs lost 4 regular season games and said the Kings would beat them?

[HarlemHeat37]

Skip was right pointing out Stephen A not giving Duncan enough credit. You win 5 championships you need good coaches AND players. Stephen A likes to paint Duncan as useless without Pop. I think Stephen A is mad because Kobe, much more than Duncan, needs a good coach to be successful

Stephen A is awful, but he had Duncan as top 5 all-time IIRC..

I like Skip Bayless, but I can't believe this show is so popular, tbh:lol..its so bad..

[ironman2886]

'My Spurs' :lol

Yeah, didn't this guy have a meltdown after the Spurs lost 4 regular season games and said the Kings would beat them?
He has meltdowns throughout the year . He should be a poster on Spurstalk, tbh.

[Cry Havoc]

Skip was right pointing out Stephen A not giving Duncan enough credit. You win 5 championships you need good coaches AND players. Stephen A likes to paint Duncan as useless without Pop. I think Stephen A is mad because Kobe, much more than Duncan, needs a good coach to be successful

I think it's funny how everyone proclaims Duncan for being lucky to have Pop for so long.

Kobe Bryant had three of the best big men in the world, and one of the 3 best coaches in NBA history. They ALL left him.

Is that some sort of bizarre cosmic coincidence? No. That's just Kobe being Kobe. People can't stand him, so they leave. Pretty fucking simple.

Kobe is the instrument of his own destruction.

[bluebellmaniac]

I think it's funny how everyone proclaims Duncan for being lucky to have Pop for so long.

Kobe Bryant had three of the best big men in the world, and one of the 3 best coaches in NBA history. They ALL left him.

Is that some sort of bizarre cosmic coincidence? No. That's just Kobe being Kobe. People can't stand him, so they leave. Pretty fucking simple.

Kobe is the instrument of his own destruction.

Well said.

[HarlemHeat37]

You know ESPN programming is bad when PTI is a "respected" show, tbh:lol..

The only watchable show on ESPN is Highly Questionable, and that's because they don't focus on sports:lol..

[steeledl]

Funny that everyone shits on ESPN shows but still watch them.....

[ironman2886]

Funny that everyone shits on ESPN shows but still watch them.....
Guilty. Will watch First Take sometimes if a team I follow did something significant(win/trade/league decision on player or team) the day before. Won't watch anything else though.

[BillMc]

I think it's funny how everyone proclaims Duncan for being lucky to have Pop for so long.

Kobe Bryant had three of the best big men in the world, and one of the 3 best coaches in NBA history. They ALL left him.

Is that some sort of bizarre cosmic coincidence? No. That's just Kobe being Kobe. People can't stand him, so they leave. Pretty fucking simple.

Kobe is the instrument of his own destruction.

100% agree. Kobe (was it last year?) sent out the spin which Stephen A and others have jumped on that he was jealous of the Spurs for having the consistency in the organization that the Lakers lacked, the underline point being Tim somehow had an advantage he didn't. Stephen A even went on to say Kobe had had a better career than Duncan because he overcame adversity. Adversity that is all self-created. People seem to forget that when Phil left the first time it was in large part to being burnt out from dealing with Kobe whom he called "uncoachable" in his book. And Kobe couldn't work with Rudy T another coach who has won multiple rings.

He pushed away Shaq and Howard, ended any chances at LMA with the whole "You can be my Pau Gasol" line, and never came to the real Pau Gasol's defense when the Lakers were misusing him under D'Antoni.

And I know Skip is a Spurs fan, but somehow his jumping off and on the bandwagon continuously annoys me.

[spurraider21]

You know ESPN programming is bad when PTI is a "respected" show, tbh:lol..

The only watchable show on ESPN is Highly Questionable, and that's because they don't focus on sports:lol..
stump the schwab tho :lol

[spurs1990]

I never understood how a Spurs fan cannot be entertained when Bayless sings high praise of YOUR team.

It takes self deprecation to a whole new level.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

In their projected line-up, Mills was not part of the team... Is he gone?

No, just more excellent background research by the folks at ESPN.

[AFBlue]

I never watch ESPN, but that's mostly because I work during the hours when their commentary programming is aired. I used to like Around the Horn because Woody Paige was an off-the-wall nut job, but even that show was disappointing at times. I don't think the national shows care enough about the details to provide insightful analysis, so they're really not worth paying attention to tbqh. I was struck by this yesterday when Brent Barry was doing commentaryfor the Summer League. He knew only true basketball people would watch an event like that so he dropped insightful little nuggets and strategy routinely throughout the game. You'd never see that on a national broadcast of a regular season game because they have to appeal to the lowest common denominator fan.

[hater]

Ma niga skip is one of the biggest trolls in mainstream media tbh

Props to him for making dough by basically trolling :lol

And no. Skip is not a spurs fan. It's all part of his trolling. I hear he didn't even like the Spurs. :lol

[BillMc]

No, just more excellent background research by the folks at ESPN.
:lol Truth.

[dgspursforlife]

Guys all of you participating in troll jobs should love this show.
I mean they get cash to troll people. That's fucking awesome

[rexrobinson]

Funny that everyone shits on ESPN shows but still watch them.....

I think for some it is just a guilty pleasure. The sooner one realizes that ESPN produces contrived fictional narratives meant only to create a "Reality TV" style sports drama to boost ratings, the quicker one can come to peace by not taking it at all seriously. :lol

[Spurminator]

If it wasn't for the occasional airing of live sports, I would never watch ESPN.

[hater]

If it wasn't for the occasional airing of live sports, I would never watch ESPN.

[skulls138]

Kobe is a badass, a lethal assassin of a player who I feared more than Shaq and frankly Lebron. Im not going to kick him when he's down. However Kobe needed Jackson more than Duncan needs Pop. Duncans like a coach and a player in one package. He sees the big picture. Kobe doesn't.

[Mal]

You just did.

Only because it was posted here. Not that I was looking for it or anything.

[EVAY]

I think it's funny how everyone proclaims Duncan for being lucky to have Pop for so long.

Kobe Bryant had three of the best big men in the world, and one of the 3 best coaches in NBA history. They ALL left him.

Is that some sort of bizarre cosmic coincidence? No. That's just Kobe being Kobe. People can't stand him, so they leave. Pretty fucking simple.

Kobe is the instrument of his own destruction.

Agree 100%. Kobe is the very definition of a supremely talented athlete and cancerous teammate, and seems to become less of a talent and more of a cancer as he ages.

My question to you (serious question) - given the drama surrounding DeAndre Jordan this summer, is it possible that Chris Paul is more like Kobe than anyone imagined?

Or- is/was all of that just DeAndre being the headcase that he is?

[bigfan]

Those two guys are the biggest douchebags on tv sports, I don't care who they think are good or bad. A pox on them both.

[manufan10]

I occasionally watch Around the Horn, PTI, and SportsCenter. I can't stand First Take, and never watch it. Other than that, only watch ESPN when they're showing games.

[BD24]

Stephen A. semen shielding and sucking that Kobe dick. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Stephen A. semen shielding and sucking that Kobe dick. :lol

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Funny that everyone shits on ESPN shows but still watch them.....

I'd say it's a lack of competition. Fox Sports hasn't stepped up their game enough and no one else has the size/scope to compete.

[Holden_Caulfield]

lol d west did not settle for the vet min. apparently he received more money from other contenders but he chose the spurs. smith is a retard.

[703 Spurz]

You know ESPN programming is bad when PTI is a "respected" show, tbh:lol..

The only watchable show on ESPN is Highly Questionable, and that's because they don't focus on sports:lol..

That's with LeBatard yes? If that's the best show the network has, kill us all.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGpJ1EoThiQ

[hater]

Chris Tucker went downhill fast. crack?

[dbreiden83080]

Stephen A yammering on about Duncan and the stability, when Kobe didn't have that. :lol


Kobe pushed Shaq out of town, and didn't care if Phil went with him back when..

[HarlemHeat37]

That's with LeBatard yes? If that's the best show the network has, kill us all.

LeBatard is the best on ESPN, tbh..he's obnoxious, but his actual takes are much closer to hardcore fans than media..

He was one of the first with the Duncan > Kobe takes, too..last week, he made the argument that the current Spurs organization is the greatest organization in NBA history(he may have said sports history, actually), which is something you would never hear from the mainstream media..

Much better than somebody like Wilbon or Kornheiser with their mainstream, cliche takes..

[T Park]

Stephen A. Smith is a bigot. He only likes black players with a perceived urban edge to them. He's an utter joke and ESPN is a joke because of him.



"David Robinson isn't black enough to win a championship"- SAS in 1998. Remember it like it was yesterday

[Cry Havoc]

Agree 100%. Kobe is the very definition of a supremely talented athlete and cancerous teammate, and seems to become less of a talent and more of a cancer as he ages.

My question to you (serious question) - given the drama surrounding DeAndre Jordan this summer, is it possible that Chris Paul is more like Kobe than anyone imagined?

Or- is/was all of that just DeAndre being the headcase that he is?

Well, I don't necessarily think Paul is a massive cancer. But I would definitely put the truth somewhere in the middle. Anyone who flips on ANY team, let alone a respected, veteran-laden team like the Mavs is a massive asshat.

However, I do think CP3s attitude plays into this. It's obvious he has an ego every time he steps on the court. Like the dude as a person, but he might be the whiniest player in the league, and in the modern NBA that is saying a lot. His attention seeking antics are probably in the top 5, along with Kobe, Westbrook, LeBron, etc.

The repeated shuffling of blame that Paul does, where you can legitimately wonder if Paul ever thinks he's lost a game of his own accord rather than getting screwed by the officials is probably going to prevent him from becoming the greatest PG of all time. It could also prevent him from ever entering the truly legendary category of players. Such a shame. If he put his head down and just played ball, he would be so much scarier of a player. Maybe he'll grow up this year. Doubt it.

[cutewizard]

Chris Paul is the greatest flopper of all time, imo

[cutewizard]

Well, I don't necessarily think Paul is a massive cancer. But I would definitely put the truth somewhere in the middle. Anyone who flips on ANY team, let alone a respected, veteran-laden team like the Mavs is a massive asshat.

However, I do think CP3s attitude plays into this. It's obvious he has an ego every time he steps on the court. Like the dude as a person, but he might be the whiniest player in the league, and in the modern NBA that is saying a lot. His attention seeking antics are probably in the top 5, along with Kobe, Westbrook, LeBron, etc.

The repeated shuffling of blame that Paul does, where you can legitimately wonder if Paul ever thinks he's lost a game of his own accord rather than getting screwed by the officials is probably going to prevent him from becoming the greatest PG of all time. It could also prevent him from ever entering the truly legendary category of players. Such a shame. If he put his head down and just played ball, he would be so much scarier of a player. Maybe he'll grow up this year. Doubt it.



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Hello Sir Cry Havoc

[hooperflash]

http://youtu.be/I5RTIt2ATo0

[vander]

I would like to see anything related to ESPN banned from Spurstalk, ESPN is worse than any poster on this site other than boutons_newspeak

[hooperflash]

I would like to see anything related to ESPN banned from Spurstalk, ESPN is worse than any poster on this site other than boutons_newspeak

But, but, their sources... :depressed

You'd be depriving Spurs Talk of a few laughs, tbh :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

First Take is pretty funny tbh :lol

[noles1983]

fuck that race baiting faggot stephen a smith