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spursistan
07-16-2015, 05:31 PM
Yes, not much flexibility, but if you think that team was 3 games short of NBA Finals good, you would be in for a rude awakening..a choking Clipper team + a banged up, cancer-infested Mavs team (Rondo) with severely declined Dirk are not a reliable measuring stick, tbh..Surprised Morey didn't look to take huge swing in offseason (especially on the Aldridge front)..

Mitch
07-16-2015, 05:34 PM
Another year, another disappointment for the Rockets.

djohn2oo8
07-16-2015, 05:49 PM
Yes, not much flexibility, but if you think that team was 3 games short of NBA Finals good, you would be in for a rude awakening..a choking Clipper team + a banged up, cancer-infested Mavs team (Rondo) with severely declined Dirk are not a reliable measuring stick, tbh..Surprised Morey didn't look to take huge swing in offseason (especially on the Aldridge front)..

They went after Aldridge. He was always going to SA. Btw, what should they have done? They were down two starters, and re-signed Bev and Brew. They shouldn't make drastic moves.

djohn2oo8
07-16-2015, 05:51 PM
Another year, another disappointment for the Rockets.

I think they bigger disappointment was picking Russell.

spankadelphia
07-16-2015, 05:51 PM
Grizz didn't do shit either. Replaced Koufos with Brandan Wright, traded for Matt Barnes (lol) who was about to be waived by Charlotte anyway, and drafted a couple of busts. Our GM also refused to entertain any trade offers for Tony Allen while his trade value was at an all time high. That son of a bitch does more harm than good and needs to be traded for an actual wing who can shoot BEFORE he loses a step and becomes untradeable.

Our first round pick (Jarrell Martin) has a Jones fracture in his foot. The exact same type of injury that has ended many big's careers in the NBA. Of course, this was news to our GM the day after the draft, but he would never admit that he didn't know about it.

spursistan
07-16-2015, 05:59 PM
Grizz didn't do shit either. Replaced Koufos with Brandan Wright, traded for Matt Barnes (lol) who was about to be waived by Charlotte anyway, and drafted a couple of busts. Our GM also refused to entertain any trade offers for Tony Allen while his trade value was at an all time high. That son of a bitch does more harm than good and needs to be traded for an actual wing who can shoot BEFORE he loses a step and becomes untradeable.

Our first round pick (Jarrell Martin) has a Jones fracture in his foot. The exact same type of injury that has ended many big's careers in the NBA. Of course, this was news to our GM the day after the draft, but he would never admit that he didn't know about it.

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spankadelphia
07-16-2015, 06:02 PM
Hollinger isn't our GM. It's the Chris Wallace show right now. Hollinger was in charge of the draft last year and wouldn't you know it, we got 2 solid young prospects.

Martin and Harrison has Wallace written all over it. "OOO look at the former 5* composite #10 overall player from high school who underwhelmed in college. I'm gonna draft ANOTHER one just to see what happens."

spursistan
07-16-2015, 06:03 PM
Hollinger isn't our GM. It's the Chris Wallace show right now. Hollinger was in charge of the draft last year and wouldn't you know it, we got 2 solid young prospects.

Martin and Harrison has Wallace written all over it. "OOO look at the former 5* composite #10 overall player from high school who underwhelmed in college. I'm gonna draft ANOTHER one just to see what happens."
But doesn't he have a big voice in trade/drafts as VP of basketball operation? thought he is influential..

spankadelphia
07-16-2015, 06:04 PM
Go to that website that shows the history of GM's and all of the moves they've made and pull up Chris Wallace. Do you see ONE good move on that list? This is the guy who traded Joe Johnson and Chauncey Billups for junk and drafted a JUCO player with a lottery pick. He's a fucking dumbass.

spankadelphia
07-16-2015, 06:08 PM
Wallace seemingly gets a lifetime pass for putting our core of Conley, Marc, and Zach together, but he hasn't done a damn thing to fill any of the glaring roster holes we've had in the past few playoff runs. He sure does like to trade away 1st rounders, take on salary for other teams without anything in return (looking at you Boston), and sign washed up vets.

baseline bum
07-16-2015, 06:10 PM
Another year, another disappointment for the Rockets.

They finally got that two seed they have been saying was locked up since about 08 though.

spankadelphia
07-16-2015, 06:12 PM
They finally got that two seed they have been saying was locked up since about 08 though.

That was a gift from the Grizzlies, who decided they were done playing serious basketball after the ASB was over. Of course, unlike the real elite teams in the NBA, the Grizz are neither talented nor deep enough to "coast" and avoid playing .500 basketball.

spursistan
07-16-2015, 06:17 PM
They went after Aldridge. He was always going to SA. Btw, what should they have done? They were down two starters, and re-signed Bev and Brew. They shouldn't make drastic moves.

Aldridge wasn't that of a lock for SA; Rockets didn't go the salary dump/trade route for him like, say, PHX..I think the intention all along was mostly to not shake up the group..

Thread
07-16-2015, 06:20 PM
Aldridge wasn't that of a lock for SA

That is exactly what he was. He did the grand tour as a favor to the NBA. His agent brokered it for him. (You scratch my back, I'll rub your ding dong.)

Robz4000
07-16-2015, 06:21 PM
If/when they get Ty Lawson they'll improve, but until Harden stops choking in the postseason and McFail is let go for a real coach they won't win anything.

Thread
07-16-2015, 06:23 PM
If/when they get Ty Lawson they'll improve

You're like &, you've been smokin' pot.

spankadelphia
07-16-2015, 06:24 PM
If/when they get Ty Lawson they'll improve, but until Harden stops choking in the postseason and McFail is let go for a real coach they won't win anything.

Ty Lawson will be out of the league in a year or two. Not many full blown alcoholics on NBA rosters.

Leetonidas
07-16-2015, 06:26 PM
What were they supposed to do though tbh...didn't have much flexibility and what top FA wants to play 2nd fiddle to Harden and play with bitch boy Dwight? :lol

spursistan
07-16-2015, 06:27 PM
They need a 3rd banana who is a legit playoff performer capable of taking over games whenever Harden turn on choke-mode and Dwight enters the mental midgetry zone..

Robz4000
07-16-2015, 06:29 PM
Ty Lawson will be out of the league in a year or two. Not many full blown alcoholics on NBA rosters.

Haven't been keeping up with that DUI situation. Is it that bad?

Mitch
07-16-2015, 06:32 PM
I think they bigger disappointment was picking Russell.

If Russell never plays a single game, the disappointment wouldn't be half that than MVP harden pissing away 13 possessions and the chip.

spankadelphia
07-16-2015, 06:33 PM
If he's serious about sticking around the league, he should sign with the Bobcats and get the PJ Hairston treatment from MJ. Gun in your car? No problem, case dismissed! DUI? No biggie, we know the judge.

UNT Eagles 2016
07-16-2015, 06:35 PM
Grizz didn't do shit either. Replaced Koufos with Brandan Wright, traded for Matt Barnes (lol) who was about to be waived by Charlotte anyway, and drafted a couple of busts. Our GM also refused to entertain any trade offers for Tony Allen while his trade value was at an all time high. That son of a bitch does more harm than good and needs to be traded for an actual wing who can shoot BEFORE he loses a step and becomes untradeable.

Our first round pick (Jarrell Martin) has a Jones fracture in his foot. The exact same type of injury that has ended many big's careers in the NBA. Of course, this was news to our GM the day after the draft, but he would never admit that he didn't know about it.
If you trade Tony Allen, who's going to stop Durant in the playoffs? (Assuming his Jones fractured foot has healed for good)

spankadelphia
07-16-2015, 06:36 PM
If you trade Tony Allen, who's going to stop Durant in the playoffs? (Assuming his Jones fractured foot has healed for good)

Durant averaged over 30 ppg the last time we played them. Did he really stop Durant?

UNT Eagles 2016
07-16-2015, 06:36 PM
They need a 3rd banana who is a legit playoff performer capable of taking over games whenever Harden turn on choke-mode and Dwight enters the mental midgetry zone..
I'll give them Leonard for Ariza and two firsts.

ducks
07-16-2015, 06:37 PM
they lost josh smith they went backwards!

djohn2oo8
07-16-2015, 06:38 PM
If Russell never plays a single game, the disappointment wouldn't be half that than MVP harden pissing away 13 possessions and the chip.

I've said for a long time he should not handle the ball for 48 minutes. They have no PG.

UNT Eagles 2016
07-16-2015, 06:38 PM
Durant averaged over 30 ppg the last time we played them. Did he really stop Durant?
ppg =/= efficiency. It was a 7 game series that you would have won in 6 or less easily had OKC not gotten lucky at the end of game 4. Memphis was the better team, but they wore out too early. Durant struggled with his shot, 30 ppg notwithstanding.

Mitch
07-16-2015, 06:39 PM
I've said for a long time he should not handle the ball for 48 minutes. They have no PG.

The season series was fairly telling, eh?

UNT Eagles 2016
07-16-2015, 06:41 PM
The season series was fairly telling, eh?
Meh, Lin was always overrated...and they put up with a similar SG/C star duo situation with TMac/Yao not too many years ago for quite awhile, with a guy from the And-One squad as your PG... seriously, when's the last time you guys had a star PG again? Steve Francis? :lmao

BTW, Bevvy will be back to take out Westy's knees again. 2nd seed confirmed, as per par.

spankadelphia
07-16-2015, 06:43 PM
ppg =/= efficiency. It was a 7 game series that you would have won in 6 or less easily had OKC not gotten lucky at the end of game 4. Memphis was the better team, but they wore out too early. Durant struggled with his shot, 30 ppg notwithstanding.

The Grizz are always completely gassed by Game 4 or 5 of a series. Hoping and praying to sweep a team like OKC or beat them in 5 before their stars pull their heads out of their asses is not a winning strategy for Memphis. There is no margin of error whatsoever. We can play elite defense without Tony Allen, but our offense will never be fluid enough to win a title with him on the roster.

djohn2oo8
07-16-2015, 06:45 PM
Meh, Lin was always overrated...and they put up with a similar SG/C star duo situation with TMac/Yao not too many years ago for quite awhile, with a guy from the And-One squad as your PG... seriously, when's the last time you guys had a star PG again? Steve Francis? :lmao

BTW, Bevvy will be back to take out Westy's knees again. 2nd seed confirmed, as per par.

Francis was a chucker at best. But yeah, Dragic, Lowry and Brooks were their last good Point Guards.

UNT Eagles 2016
07-16-2015, 06:46 PM
The Grizz are always completely gassed by Game 4 or 5 of a series. Hoping and praying to sweep a team like OKC or beat them in 5 before their stars pull their heads out of their asses is not a winning strategy for Memphis. We can play elite defense without Tony Allen, but our offense will never be fluid enough to win a title with him on the roster.
Not when the Warriors make him shoot corner threes all game and he goes 1/12, lol. That's why he needs to do more backdoor cuts for layups with Gasol passing out of the double. Obviously he can't shoot, but the Grizzlies don't win by scoring lots of points. They're an inside-outside team, and often inside-inside. With Courtney Lee and Vince Carter or Matt Barnes in the game, they have more flexibility offensively, but their defense suffers tremendously. It's a tradeoff that has worked well in the past against teams like OKC with multiple perimeter stars. Conley can hold his own against Westy and Allen/Barnes (formerly Prince) can guard Durant.

UNT Eagles 2016
07-16-2015, 06:48 PM
Francis was a chucker at best. But yeah, Dragic, Lowry and Brooks were their last good Point Guards.
Lowry happened during your dark non-playoff era, so irrelevant... Dragic was good but not great as a Rocket, and Brooks was good in 09 against the Lakers with you guys shorthanded. I still wish you guys had won the series, because FTL

djohn2oo8
07-16-2015, 06:51 PM
Lowry happened during your dark non-playoff era, so irrelevant... Dragic was good but not great as a Rocket, and Brooks was good in 09 against the Lakers with you guys shorthanded. I still wish you guys had won the series, because FTL

They had Lowry in the playoffs.

Indazone
07-16-2015, 11:29 PM
Rockets still have the MLE to play with. They have to shore up their PG position. I heard rumors that Chuck Hayes maybe headed back as a reserve at Power Forward.

HarlemHeat37
07-16-2015, 11:39 PM
Not when the Warriors make him shoot corner threes all game and he goes 1/12, lol. That's why he needs to do more backdoor cuts for layups with Gasol passing out of the double. Obviously he can't shoot, but the Grizzlies don't win by scoring lots of points. They're an inside-outside team, and often inside-inside. With Courtney Lee and Vince Carter or Matt Barnes in the game, they have more flexibility offensively, but their defense suffers tremendously. It's a tradeoff that has worked well in the past against teams like OKC with multiple perimeter stars. Conley can hold his own against Westy and Allen/Barnes (formerly Prince) can guard Durant.

Its 2015, nigga, you don't win with players like Tony Allen as a key player anymore:lol..

Grizzlies are a perennial "blind and false hope" team that are hyped due to 90s nostalgia..people are desperate for an old school team to beat teams like today's Spurs and Warriors types..

UNT Eagles 2016
07-16-2015, 11:43 PM
Rockets still have the MLE to play with. They have to shore up their PG position. I heard rumors that Chuck Hayes maybe headed back as a reserve at Power Forward.

nice, another guy for us to hax

SAGirl
07-16-2015, 11:44 PM
Grizz didn't do shit either. Replaced Koufos with Brandan Wright, traded for Matt Barnes (lol) who was about to be waived by Charlotte anyway, and drafted a couple of busts. Our GM also refused to entertain any trade offers for Tony Allen while his trade value was at an all time high. That son of a bitch does more harm than good and needs to be traded for an actual wing who can shoot BEFORE he loses a step and becomes untradeable.

Our first round pick (Jarrell Martin) has a Jones fracture in his foot. The exact same type of injury that has ended many big's careers in the NBA. Of course, this was news to our GM the day after the draft, but he would never admit that he didn't know about it.
I actually like Jordan Adams a lot. He's a gifted scorer. I hope he gets some playing time this season.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 01:51 PM
Mark Berman @MarkBermanFox26
Agent Jason Martin confirms KJ McDaniels reached agreement w/ #Rockets. According to NBA sources deal is for 3 years/$10 million. No option

Nice deal

Thread
07-19-2015, 02:50 PM
^You're gonna have to figure out how to get keep Harden from going into rigor mortis every Spring.

tee, hee.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 05:49 PM
^You're gonna have to figure out how to get keep Harden from going into rigor mortis every Spring.

tee, hee.

Easy. Acquire a point guard.

LkrFan
07-19-2015, 08:15 PM
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LkrFan
07-19-2015, 08:17 PM
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Mugen
07-19-2015, 08:17 PM
Lawson to the Rockets per WOJ tbh

HarlemHeat37
07-19-2015, 08:17 PM
Toughest conference of all-time, coming up..smh..

Mugen
07-19-2015, 08:20 PM
:lol should be fun tbh



:lmao Lakers

UNT Eagles 2016
07-19-2015, 09:46 PM
So much for this thread.