Spurs already secretly rebuilding for 2016

[sexinthatsx]

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Can you imagine a lineup with: Tony Parker, Kawhi Leonard, Kevin Durant, LMA, and Duncan?! :wow:wow:wow

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[Richie]

Impossible

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Nope. Durant is too much of a pussy to play for pop. He will only play for a coach and organization that constantly kisses his ass. He wont get that here.

[TheGreatYacht]

Book it fam :lobt2:

[Kikoluna]

It's financially impossible I'm afraid. The math doesn't add up. Beaides, he is in the lebron, cp3, John wall mind frame of thumping chest after every basket. Not spur like

[ohmwrecker]

Nope. Durant is too much of a pussy to play for pop. He will only play for a coach and organization that constantly kisses his ass. He wont get that here.

Yeah... that's why it's not going to happen.

[Knoxxx]

Seems to me Spurs are in the range to sign a max player (or close) each of the next 2 years when the salary cap explodes:

2016 salaries: $68 million (not counting Duncan $5.6 million which I guess is guaranteed even if he retires?) Include $3 million guaranteed portion of $6.5 million to Diaw. Cap projected to be $89 million. Better case here is get one more year out of Duncan and save cap space for 2017 when...

2017 salaries: $66 million. Diaw unguaranteed $7 million, Duncan not on books. Cap projected to be $108 million. This would probably allow us to get a third max player to pair with Leonard + Aldridge (& Green).

[spurraider21]

dont forget 2018 when TP is off the books

[Ocotillo]

I have my doubts as to whether Durant will ever regain form due to the Jones fracture. He will still be a good player but not what he was before. It's interesting that you don't hear much about that when you hear the media discussing the upcoming Durant Sweepstakes.

[Mr Bones]

Durant's a SF like Kawhi, and isn't strong enough to guard PFs... what position would he play?

[BillMc]

Durant's a SF like Kawhi, and isn't strong enough to guard PFs... what position would he play?

He can backup Kawhi:lol (Assuming he can beat out Slomo for the spot!)

[TheGreatYacht]

Didn't he call Kawhi a system player? :lol that shit would be awkward tbh

[steeledl]

Durant's a SF like Kawhi, and isn't strong enough to guard PFs... what position would he play?

I'm sure Kawhi could find a comfortable seat on the bench or we can just be super long with Durant at the two.

[BillMc]

Didn't he call Kawhi a system player? :lol that shit would be awkward tbh

Truth.

[steeledl]

dont forget 2018 when TP is off the books

Hope we can get him resigned for a couple more years by then. By then his game will have probably slipped to where ginobilis was over the past couple years so we will need a starter but Tony could still be solid off the bench.

[spurs10]

Sounds like a lot of parity in the league. We are as flush as we will ever be in history! Not looking forward to the Durant hullabaloo next summer. He's done a lot of commercials and not much basketball in the recent past.

[spurs10]

Didn't he call Kawhi a system player? :lol that shit would be awkward tbh You mean NBA champion and FMVP Kawhi? Who called him that and what has he done?

[BatManu20]

Durant would be dumb to leave OKC imo. But if he did, it won't be for SA. It'll likely be Washington or LAC.

[steeledl]

You mean NBA champion and FMVP Kawhi? Who called him that and what has he done?

Kevin Durant, league MVP..... lets not pretend Kawhi could ever be the player Durant is . This doesn't mean we dont like Kawhi.

[steeledl]

Laurent would be dumb to leave OKC imo. But if he did, it won't be for SA. It'll likely be Washington or LAC.

I could see him going to LAL.... it's only a matter of time before they land a guy and especially if some of their young guys show promise....they could land Durant and another good player. The money will be there.

[Aztecfan03]

I'm sure Kawhi could find a comfortable seat on the bench or we can just be super long with Durant at the two.
I like green in our starting lineup. Don't think DUrant would fit as well as green at all.

[steeledl]

I like green in our starting lineup. Don't think DUrant would fit as well as green at all.

Are you joking or not? With Durant we would be literally unstoppable if healthy.

[baseline bum]

Seems to me Spurs are in the range to sign a max player (or close) each of the next 2 years when the salary cap explodes:

2016 salaries: $68 million (not counting Duncan $5.6 million which I guess is guaranteed even if he retires?) Include $3 million guaranteed portion of $6.5 million to Diaw. Cap projected to be $89 million. Better case here is get one more year out of Duncan and save cap space for 2017 when...

2017 salaries: $66 million. Diaw unguaranteed $7 million, Duncan not on books. Cap projected to be $108 million. This would probably allow us to get a third max player to pair with Leonard + Aldridge (& Green).

A Durant max contract would start at about $31 million.

[Kikoluna]

Kevin Durant, league MVP..... lets not pretend Kawhi could ever be the player Durant is . This doesn't mean we dont like Kawhi.
Leonard is a better overall player. Durant is superb offensively but is insignificant on the defensive side. Durant's durability is questionable. Plus Durant has the me first team second mindset. Implying that comparing Leonard and Durant is laughable is itself laughable.

[spurs10]

Kevin Durant, league MVP..... lets not pretend Kawhi could ever be the player Durant is . This doesn't mean we dont like Kawhi. Apples and oranges to me. Kawhi is a great defender with a monstrous Finals run on his resume. KD is obviously an incredible player, but doesn't need to be talking smack about anyone less he wants to watch repeats of his only Finals run. This 'system player' rub is funny to me because it is a system and a team and the rub is always used by those whose team accomplishments are small.

I've never cared much about the players individual prowess if their team inevitably loses. Thought KD's stat padding in the league MVP race was obvious and telling. To me guys like Manu Ginobili have the perfect careers. Great success on every level.

[steeledl]

Leonard is a better overall player. Durant is superb offensively but is insignificant on the defensive side. Durant's durability is questionable. Plus Durant has the me first team second mindset. Implying that comparing Leonard and Durant is laughable is itself laughable.


:lmao You people could not possible be this delusional.:rollin I don't even know how to respond to this because it is so unreasonable. Leonard isn't even fucking close to the player Durant is ..........

[dabom]

Durant plays pg while Tony plAys off the bench.

[steeledl]

Drunk.... You guys are all drunk. Like throwing up, pissing yourselves, and shitting yourself all at the same time drunk.

[spurs10]

:lmao You people could not possible be this delusional.:rollin I don't even know how to respond to this because it is so unreasonable. Leonard isn't even fucking close to the player Durant is .......... Don't know what you mean by 'even close to the player.' If you mean individual player, I think anyone who doesn't recognize Durant's skills is indeed delusional. Time will tell how their careers go. Kevin could have climaxed already for instances, hope not. That Kawhi is just getting started and already has enjoyed much more success with his team is a fact.

[spurs10]

Drunk.... You guys are all drunk. Like throwing up, pissing yourselves, and shitting yourself all at the same time drunk. Speaking of shitting the bed, watch the 2012 Finals.

[Vic Petro]

I have my doubts as to whether Durant will ever regain form due to the Jones fracture.

[spurs10]

Yeah I hope he can regain his form and have many years ahead of him. I'm a Spurs fan so he'll always be a pain in the ass for me. :lol
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[jhfenton]

I don't see any appealing max free agents on next years list, except maybe Mike Conley, assuming Parker doesn't return to all-star form.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Our holes are C and PG... any good ones that we could get for $21 million next year?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I don't see any appealing max free agents on next years list, except maybe Mike Conley, assuming Parker doesn't return to all-star form.
I'd still take Conley though if no great centers are available.

[spurs10]

We will be looking for a 5 no doubt!

[SuperCam]

Leonard is a better overall player. Durant is superb offensively but is insignificant on the defensive side. Durant's durability is questionable. Plus Durant has the me first team second mindset. Implying that comparing Leonard and Durant is laughable is itself laughable.

Fucking Spursfan homers :lmao


How do the non-homers manage to coexist with all of you koolaid drinkers?

[steeledl]

Fucking Spursfan homers :lmao


How do the non-homers manage to coexist with all of you koolaid drinkers?

Every fan base has people like this...... but this is a pretty extreme case, tbh. Just have to try not to let it bother you.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

A Durant max contract would start at about $31 million.
We still have the amnesty clause from 2011 don't we? We could easily amnesty Porker and have that much room.

Hell, Durant can be our PG as he's quick enough... he and Kawhi can take turns bringing the ball up when they're in the game... then you bring in Patty/McCollum/whoever off the bench, maybe Manu will come back for one more year, maybe he won't...

[TXstbobcat]

We still have the amnesty clause from 2011 don't we? We could easily amnesty Porker and have that much room.

Hell, Durant can be our PG as he's quick enough... he and Kawhi can take turns bringing the ball up when they're in the game... then you bring in Patty/McCollum/whoever off the bench, maybe Manu will come back for one more year, maybe he won't...

Spurs don't have anyone ellible to use the amnesty clause on from the last CBA agreement.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Spurs don't have anyone ellible to use the amnesty clause on from the last CBA agreement.
Really? I thought you can use it on ANY one player until the CBA runs out, then you get a new one. I didn't think that a renewed contract made after 2011 would invalidate the use of the amnesty clause. Correct me if I'm wrong?

Either way, would it be possible to trade Parker and a future second to a team with cap space needing a PG for say, a different future second and a bag of Doritos?

[Strategic]

Only one ball and KD wants, wants, wants, wants, wants. No thanks.

[TXstbobcat]

Really? I thought you can use it on ANY one player until the CBA runs out, then you get a new one. I didn't think that a renewed contract made after 2011 would invalidate the use of the amnesty clause. Correct me if I'm wrong?

Either way, would it be possible to trade Parker and a future second to a team with cap space needing a PG for say, a different future second and a bag of Doritos?

The contract would have to have been signed before the collective bargaining agreement In order for the player to be eligible for the amnesty provision for that CBA.

[Chinook]

Really? I thought you can use it on ANY one player until the CBA runs out, then you get a new one. I didn't think that a renewed contract made after 2011 would invalidate the use of the amnesty clause. Correct me if I'm wrong?

Either way, would it be possible to trade Parker and a future second to a team with cap space needing a PG for say, a different future second and a bag of Doritos?

You're wrong in the first paragraph, and the trade is possible, save the chips.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Only one ball and KD wants, wants, wants, wants, wants. No thanks.
KD gets to the foul line a million times a game and he shoots almost 90 percent. Definitely want. Also if he gets crowded in the paint, Danny and Kawhi get open threes all game or TD/LMA gets a dunk. Can't go wrong

[TheDoctor]

I don't see any appealing max free agents on next years list, except maybe Mike Conley, assuming Parker doesn't return to all-star form.

You don't assume Enrique doesn't return to all-star form. That's a FACT and start to think that way because Tony's no Tim Duncan.

[TheDoctor]

Only one ball and KD wants, wants, wants, wants, wants. No thanks.

That's Tony Parker actually. KD has to do that in OKC: 1) Because Scott Brooks (who was fired) and 2) Because Westbrook. Ironically, you put KD in the Spurs' system and he will thrive magnificently. He probably will score a lot less points, but the easiness of his shots would be something insane.

Anyways, Kawhi would be the Shooting Guard w/ Durant playing at SF. Damn that's a pipe dream. TP, KL, KD, LMA, TD and Danny fucking Green off the bench to back-up Kawhi. Damn.

[milkyway21]

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Can you imagine a lineup with: Tony Parker, Kawhi Leonard, Kevin Durant , LMA, and Duncan?! :wow:wow:wow

:huh. ?

[hooperflash]

Bring back G.Hill !

[TheDoctor]

Bring back G.Hill !

Straight for TP. Deal.

[Strategic]

KD gets to the foul line a million times a game and he shoots almost 90 percent. Definitely want. Also if he gets crowded in the paint, Danny and Kawhi get open threes all game or TD/LMA gets a dunk. Can't go wrongSo you think Spurs would be better telling Kawhi and Danny to forget the offense that helped them win a title and just go stand on the 3 point line to watch durant operate and wait for the ball? Oh boy, let's watch 82 games of durant shooting 82 free throws!

[hooperflash]

Straight for TP. Deal.

It somehow worked in 2K :lol I have the Spurs (NBA 2K) playing in a Game 7 vs OKC at home. The Bulls are awaiting us in the Finals. :tu

[Strategic]

That's Tony Parker actually. KD has to do that in OKC: 1) Because Scott Brooks (who was fired) and 2) Because Westbrook. Ironically, you put KD in the Spurs' system and he will thrive magnificently. Guess you didn't read durants wise crack about the Spurs system player?

[spurs10]

Guess you didn't read durants wise crack about the Spurs system player? Exactly! Tells you a lot about his character....

[Knoxxx]

Durant shmerant, who else will be available for the $20-$30 million range in 2017?

I think in 2016 we most likely have Tim back for a repeat and any salary cap space for a free agent is used on guys willing to sign for a ring discount and one year deal (to preserve max 2017 cap).

[spurs10]

Durant shmerant, who else will be available for the $20-$30 million range in 2017?

I think in 2016 we most likely have Tim back for a repeat and any salary cap space for a free agent is used on guys willing to sign for a ring discount and one year deal (to preserve max 2017 cap). Like that scenario!

[YGWHI]

Drunk.... You guys are all drunk. Like throwing up, pissing yourselves, and shitting yourself all at the same time drunk.
The Spurs never signed two max-big money contracts at the same time like now, and you want to bench one of those two players? "Kawhi could find a comfortable seat on the bench" Noboby pays 95M to bench that player.
Maybe they aren't drunk, maybe they just have the basketball knowledge and common sense that you lack.

[Kikoluna]

Straight for TP. Deal.

They can keep hill, just take tp

[Knoxxx]

The Spurs never signed two max-big money contracts at the same time like now, and you want to bench one of those two players? "Kawhi could find a comfortable seat on the bench" Noboby pays 95M to bench that player.
Maybe they aren't drunk, maybe they just have the basketball knowledge and common sense that you lack.

Or he just be trolling and you took the bait? :lol

[Horry Hipcheck]

Nobody's gonna want a one-legged Durant before too long.

[cutewizard]

Duran Duran

lol

[YGWHI]

Or he just be trolling and you took the bait? :lol

:lol

Really? He just seemed stupid but if he was trolling, it was cool. Hope nobody takes him/his posts seriously again. :lol

[DJR210]

Didn't he call Kawhi a system player? :lol that shit would be awkward tbh

If Kobe can forgive being called a rapist..

[Aztecfan03]

Are you joking or not? With Durant we would be literally unstoppable if healthy.
Danny is a far better defender and is a great 3-point shooter. That is what is needed with the other players we have. If we still had splitter instead of aldridge, then maybe.

In that post i quoted you but was responding to the op. no idea why i quoted you.

[LiSpurs516]

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2016/

Next years free agent class, I doubt he ever leaves but could you imagine the defense with Conley, Green and Kawhi :wow

[cutewizard]

Andre Drummond is a better fit for the Spurs

get Drummond!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cutewizard]

THE FUTURE SPURS:

Drummond at center
LaMarcus and Kawhi at forwards
Mills and Green at guards

Marjanovic as Sixth Man!

Marjanoviccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc cccccccccccccccc rules

[cutewizard]

Rookie of the Year:

Marjanovic!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you heard it from me first

[cutewizard]

David West, Sixth Man of the Year

[skin27]

its impossible to happen!!! Durant may go to DC:wakeup

[sexinthatsx]

As much as Spurs fans hate KD's comments towards the Spurs and Kawhi for being a system player, keep in mind that come 2016, Durant will pretty much be in the same boat as Aldridge - having spent his whole career with a franchise that can't put him over the top. If he really wanted to ring, Spurs would be the realistic option. But if he's looking to get paid, he can always go elsewhere.

KD won't pick Lakers for the same reason that LMA didn't even consider Lakers: why stick a star in his prime along with a young developing core? It's almost counter-intuitive. The older stars are better off sticking together in one team to have the best shot of getting a title.

KD won't pick the Wizards for the same reason. Paul Pierce pretty much made the team a lot better during his stint, but really how big of an upgrade is John Wall to Russell Westbrook and Nene to Serge Ibaka?

Realistically, he's either going to retire a Thunder or better off joining a group of stars, whether it be the Spurs or maybe another stacked team.

[dabom]

Get the 2nd best player in the league. Use him as a SG. Tall SG. Not unheard of before for the spurs.

[Ditty]

I wouldn't be shocked if Spurs got a visit during the offseason with him.

I called it last off season from what I remember when people were saying that we wouldn't even get a meeting with Aldridge.

If Spurs win the championship this year, I think it would be extremely intriguing to KD tbh

He is really good friends with Lamarcus, and has a pretty good relationship with Pop from what I've heard.

I think he will listen, but I think he is staying OKC (60%) or going to Washington (40%).

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Durant is signing a 1+1 deal with the Thunder next summer.

[cutewizard]

Can he be comfortable with being the third top dog only?

That is the question

[tesseractive]

I could see him going to LAL.... it's only a matter of time before they land a guy and especially if some of their young guys show promise....they could land Durant and another good player. The money will be there.
Not a chance in hell. Realistically there's no way he would come to the Spurs, but at this point in his career, he'd be crazy to go to the Lakers to play with some kids who are still settling into the league. He's in the prime of his career, he's never won a title, and the Lakers won't help him win one. Unless his goal in life is to be Carmelo Jr., he'll go somewhere where he at least has a shot.

[Spurtacular]

Durant's a SF like Kawhi, and isn't strong enough to guard PFs... what position would he play?

Kawhi could play guard if it meant getting Durant.

[Spurtacular]

Kevin Durant, league MVP..... lets not pretend Kawhi could ever be the player Durant is . This doesn't mean we dont like Kawhi.

Kawhi was a top five player in the second half of last season. It's not a stretch for Kawhi to get an MVP at some point.

[daledondale]

Fuck Durant.

[Drom John]

Nope. We let Cory Joseph leave.
http://cdn.slamonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/x6101.jpg

[tatteredprince]

Kevin Durant, league MVP..... lets not pretend Kawhi could ever be the player Durant is . This doesn't mean we dont like Kawhi.


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Alternatively, Kevin Durant MIGHT NEVER experience the heights of ecstasy reached by Kawhi, which is winning the NBA championship!

Poor Durant, after a few years no one will pay attention to him.......just another non-cerebral young gorilla.....

[tatteredprince]

Kevin Durant is over rated, i want Drummond!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tatteredprince]

In the Annals of NBA history, the small forward is stacked with legends....

Bird, the greatest small forward who played the game

Len Bias, might have been the greatest talent, but alas, we will never know

Julius Erving, the most spectacular small forward in history

Dennis Rodman, as a small forward was the greatest rebounder, with possibly the highest bball IQ

Scottie Pippen, the greatest all-around defender

Paul Pressey, the man who originated the point forward position

Rick Barry, one of the fiercest competitors ever

Elgin Baylor, the best one-on-one forward the game has produced

and if you consider Dirk Nowitzki as a small forward, then second to Bird

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Kevin Durant is NOT in this class yet, he has NOT reached their level yet

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On the other hand, if Kawhi develops an offensive game to match his defense, and continues to develop, sky is the limit for him

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Conclusion: Kawhi has greater potential than Kevin Durant at this point!

[tatteredprince]

im biased for Kawhi, I know, the guy almost won two championships for us........

[KaiRMD1]

Durant has to regain form first

[TheDoctor]

Guess you didn't read durants wise crack about the Spurs system player?

I did, but we are taking here about pipe dreams possibilities so...

[BD24]

Fucking Spursfan homers :lmao


How do the non-homers manage to coexist with all of you koolaid drinkers?
Says the faggot who thinks Newton is better than Rodgers :lol

But obviously Durant isn't coming here, so lets cut the nonsense out.

[TXstbobcat]

Washington will make a huge push to sign KD and I think it comes down to Washington or staying in OKC.

[Baseline21]

The guy that I really want for the rebuilding process when Duncan and ginobili are gone, is Rudy Gobert. That guy could win DPOY for many years. Imagine Aldridge, Kawhi and him as a front line. I think he's a free agent in 2017 but not sure exactly. A jazz fan told me on Twitter that.

[sasaint]

Next summer sign Al Horford to replace TD or David West if either retires. If they stay, ditch Marjanovic for Horford.