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djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 08:28 PM
Jonathan Feigen
✔@Jonathan_Feigen (https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen)

Rockets will give up almost no one in playoff rotation -- Papanikolaou, Prigioni, Dorsey, Johnson -- along with 1st (protected) for Lawson.

HarlemHeat37
07-19-2015, 08:29 PM
He's a little overrated IMO, but no risk, at all here, they gave up nothing..low risk/high reward..

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 08:32 PM
He's a little overrated IMO, but no risk, at all here, they gave up nothing..low risk/high reward..
Can't believe they got him for scraps worse than the Lakers scraps :lol

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Koolaid_Man
07-19-2015, 08:33 PM
The problem is Harden and Dwight...Harden is literally incapable of playing off the ball...and Dwight wont play defense unless he has the ball...Ty is good but unfortunately those two mental midgets will fuck it up...If Harden knew how to play off the ball like Clay Thompson the Rox could make some noise...

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 08:34 PM
:lmao Denver traded a pick too

Koolaid_Man
07-19-2015, 08:35 PM
:lmao Denver traded a pick too

Nice Fleece job breh

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 08:36 PM
Nice Fleece job breh
:tu

JakeCuenca
07-19-2015, 08:37 PM
Prigioni was a major piece last year in the playoffs, but still this is great for Houston.

Should take off a lot of pressure from Harden.

if Lawson can play at a level he played two years ago...Houston is going to be tough to beat.

SuperCam
07-19-2015, 08:38 PM
This was a homerun for Morey. He gets a very high caliber offensive player who is an extraordinary set up man. I mean they already had a WCF team with that fucking washed up argentuzos scrub starting in the playoffs. Rox have deep bench now too.

Chinook
07-19-2015, 08:38 PM
Couldn't even get Harrell from Houston. Sad, but kinda obvious given Lawson's recent issues.

Trill Clinton
07-19-2015, 08:38 PM
ty is about to trade in the liquor for styrofoam cups of leanhttp://i61.tinypic.com/2akecd4.png

HarlemHeat37
07-19-2015, 08:39 PM
Should have Lawson as 6th man, would be huge for their bench unit and would maximize his impact..

spurraider21
07-19-2015, 08:40 PM
Should have Lawson as 6th man, would be huge for their bench unit and would maximize his impact..
indeed. and its not uncommon to have more defensive oriented starter and an offensive-minded backup... especially because harden already runs the O

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 08:41 PM
Should have Lawson as 6th man, would be huge for their bench unit and would maximize his impact..
I wondered about this. If Beverley re-signed knowing he would start.

HarlemHeat37
07-19-2015, 08:41 PM
indeed. and its not uncommon to have more defensive oriented starter and an offensive-minded backup... especially because harden already runs the O

Ya, I don't expect McHale to make the intelligent move, though:lol..

TXstbobcat
07-19-2015, 08:41 PM
:lmao Denver traded a pick too

Very nice trade for the Rockets.

benefactor
07-19-2015, 08:42 PM
All those strip clubs...Ty ain't gotta chance.

HarlemHeat37
07-19-2015, 08:43 PM
I wondered about this. If Beverley re-signed knowing he would start.

Doesn't make much sense to start Lawson IMO..even if they do, I bet they change it after a few weeks..

A lineup with Lawson-Harden-Jones puts too much defensive pressure on Ariza and Howard(and Dwight has been vocal in the past about a reduced offensive role in favor of carrying a defense, probably even worse at his current age), and it minimizes Lawson's impact, since he's a poor off-ball player..

Starting Beverley gives them 3 defenders with 3 role players that can make spot-up jump shots, and allows Lawson to create the entire offense for a bench unit that doesn't have any creators outside of occasional D-Mo post-ups..Houston's offense when Harden left the floor was one of their primary flaws, last year, IIRC..

Koolaid_Man
07-19-2015, 08:46 PM
Should have Lawson as 6th man, would be huge for their bench unit and would maximize his impact..


The Rox needed a PG bad...and they found a very good one. They need to take the ball out of Hardens hands...Ty can't defend for shit but he's a very good and capable offensive player...he avg.15 and 9 dimes last season..the issue is Harden and Dwight low IQs...them two niggas aren't too bright and unfortunately it will continue to haunt the Rox...tbh

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 08:46 PM
Doesn't make much sense to start Lawson IMO..even if they do, I bet they change it after a few weeks..

A lineup with Lawson-Harden-Jones puts too much defensive pressure on Ariza and Howard(and Dwight has been vocal in the past about a reduced offensive role in favor of carrying a defense, probably even worse at his current age), and it minimizes Lawson's impact, since he's a poor off-ball player..

Starting Beverley gives them 3 defenders with 3 role players that can make spot-up jump shots, and allows Lawson to create the entire offense for a bench unit that doesn't have any creators outside of occasional D-Mo post-ups..Houston's offense when Harden left the floor was one of their primary flaws, last year, IIRC..
I agree. Only thing is D-Mo likely starts.

m>s
07-19-2015, 08:46 PM
Doesn't make much sense to start Lawson IMO..even if they do, I bet they change it after a few weeks..

A lineup with Lawson-Harden-Jones puts too much defensive pressure on Ariza and Howard(and Dwight has been vocal in the past about a reduced offensive role in favor of carrying a defense, probably even worse at his current age), and it minimizes Lawson's impact, since he's a poor off-ball player..

Starting Beverley gives them 3 defenders with 3 role players that can make spot-up jump shots, and allows Lawson to create the entire offense for a bench unit that doesn't have any creators outside of occasional D-Mo post-ups..Houston's offense when Harden left the floor was one of their primary flaws, last year, IIRC..youre forgetting that per the stats gardens defense was vastly improved and actually pretty damn good this year

Robz4000
07-19-2015, 08:47 PM
Saw this coming a mile away and with Lawson's DUI I figured Houston would get him for cheap. As Harlem said, low risk/high reward for Houston; this puts them ahead of the Grizz/Hawks but still behind SA/GS/CLE/LAC.

Koolaid_Man
07-19-2015, 08:49 PM
ty is about to trade in the liquor for styrofoam cups of leanhttp://i61.tinypic.com/2akecd4.png
He will do ok up till Allstar break...

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 08:49 PM
Jonathan Feigen
✔@Jonathan_Feigen (https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen)

Just to be clear, the Rockets pick to Denver is lottery protected in 2016. The Denver second rounder to the Rockets in '17 not protected.

Splits
07-19-2015, 08:50 PM
The Rox needed a PG bad...and they found a very good one. They need to take the ball out of Hardens hands...Ty can't defend for shit but he's a very good and capable offensive player...he avg.15 and 9 dimes last season..the issue is Harden and Dwight low IQs...them two niggas aren't too bright and unfortunately it will continue to haunt the Rox...tbh

Stick to "Tammy" and olympics topics. Your basketball takes suck

Koolaid_Man
07-19-2015, 08:51 PM
Stick to "Tammy" and olympics topics. Your basketball takes suck

So does your asshole Splits.... wink wink

100%duncan
07-19-2015, 08:52 PM
The west gets better

Clipper Nation
07-19-2015, 08:54 PM
A recovering alcoholic on a team led by Harden and Dwight? That'll end well.

SuperCam
07-19-2015, 08:54 PM
only downside is Tywon is a UNC faggot who is of low moral fiber. but Rox willing to have a pedophile on their team so I imagine that didn't come up in the discussion. still potential to be brought down by the combined faggotry of that starting lineup though ala 2012 lakerz

Splits
07-19-2015, 08:54 PM
So does your asshole Splits.... wink wink

You want to suck my ass again? wink

Koolaid_Man
07-19-2015, 08:59 PM
You want to suck my ass again? wink

Muh mah..dick does Splits...ohh I meant Splaqs..:lol

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 09:00 PM
Rockets will ask John Lucas to help counsel in his rehab.

Koolaid_Man
07-19-2015, 09:03 PM
Can't be much worse Djohn...you got a guy that pays 25k per hooker, a pedo, and now a wino....

Two sex pervs and basically a drunk....

Michael Corleone
07-19-2015, 09:05 PM
622949600832294912

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 09:06 PM
Can't be much worse Djohn...you got a guy that pays 25k per hooker, a pedo, and now a wino....

Two sex pervs and basically a drunk....
If Lawson fucks up again, he is done. NBA probably bans him and contract voided.

Mugen
07-19-2015, 09:06 PM
:lol who's the last guy that John Lucas successfully mentored? I'm pretty sure Stevie Franchise is in a crack den somewhere in Baltimore tbh

DJR210
07-19-2015, 09:09 PM
Gallons of that drank for Lawson

HarlemHeat37
07-19-2015, 09:10 PM
Damn, Lakers losing confidence in Russell already?:lol

Koolaid_Man
07-19-2015, 09:11 PM
:lol who's the last guy that John Lucas successfully mentored? I'm pretty sure Stevie Franchise is in a crack den somewhere in Baltimore tbh

Crack is different bro...never done it but I have snorted a coke line once

Mugen
07-19-2015, 09:11 PM
it's a no brainer for the Rockets obviously but I'm calling Rondo to the Mavs 2.0 tbh.

A town where there's nothing to do but hit up strip clubs with off the court degenerates like Dwight and Harden isn't exactly the ideal situation for an alcoholic :lol

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 09:12 PM
Damn, Lakers losing confidence in Russell already?:lol
:lol

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 09:16 PM
Now bring turtlehead back. Good locker room vet.

Mugen
07-19-2015, 09:17 PM
Now bring turtlehead back. Good locker room vet.

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sook
07-19-2015, 09:28 PM
:lmao all the naysayers. Harden/Lawson guard combo is terrific

sook
07-19-2015, 09:28 PM
Can't be much worse Djohn...you got a guy that pays 25k per hooker, a pedo, and now a wino....

Two sex pervs and basically a drunk....

:lmao butthurt

Splits
07-19-2015, 09:29 PM
Damn, Lakers losing confidence in Russell already?:lol

:lol did you see D'Bust against d-league scrubs in SL? He was fucking awful, shot 37% from the field and 12% from 3. 12/5/3 with more than 5 TOs per game.

Against d-league talent.

Dancelot
07-19-2015, 09:29 PM
ty is about to trade in the liquor for styrofoam cups of leanhttp://i61.tinypic.com/2akecd4.png
:lol

noob cake
07-19-2015, 09:31 PM
Last year, we relied on Josh Smith to be the play maker when Harden is resting. Now Harden can get some rest while Lawson pounds the ball.

Lawson's fit with Harden is questionable, but we shall see how much Harden can play off the ball.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 09:38 PM
Wonder when his suspension is handed down

Mugen
07-19-2015, 09:40 PM
dj, you gonna tweet this nigga and offer to be his personal uber driver or what tbh?

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 09:41 PM
dj, you gonna tweet this nigga and offer to be his personal uber driver or what tbh?
:lol if it would guarantee he would stay sober

myhc
07-19-2015, 09:47 PM
So Rockets add a drunk/woman beater and go from the most hated team in the nba to the most hated team in the nba? Great!

Thread
07-19-2015, 09:48 PM
Good. Another trip wire to keep Duncan holding that Bag.

UNT Eagles 2016
07-19-2015, 09:50 PM
So who's the odd man out here? Beverley? Jason Terry?

Also, the Rockets are in need of a center for when Dwert obligatorily takes off some games or gets in foul trouble. Looks like unproven backup Capela might be getting some minutes. The Rockets, however, should go after Javale McGee.

Thread
07-19-2015, 09:51 PM
So who's the odd man out here? Beverley? Jason Terry?

Keep all three. You can never have enough talent.

UNT Eagles 2016
07-19-2015, 09:53 PM
Keep all three. You can never have enough talent.
Who plays center when punk isn't in the game?

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 09:53 PM
Keep all three. You can never have enough talent.
They will keep all three.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 09:54 PM
Who plays center when punk isn't in the game?
Capella

Thread
07-19-2015, 09:55 PM
Who plays center when punk isn't in the game?

What did Ted Kennedy say to Mary Jo Kopechne when she told him she was pregnant? We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

Thread
07-19-2015, 09:55 PM
Capella

How the fuck is singin' with no instruments accompanying gonna play center?

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 10:02 PM
How the fuck is singin' with no instruments accompanying gonna play center?
Ld-AOpOX-Ys

adonis827
07-19-2015, 10:03 PM
The 2016 hou pick is likely in the 25 - 30. The 2017 den pick very likely is in the 31 to 40. So basically like drafting out of the first round in the year the rox is probably looking for another max player.

That does not seem much for a pretty solid PG. Hope the NBA consider altering the trade a little bit to make it more fair.

Thread
07-19-2015, 10:07 PM
Ld-AOpOX-Ys

Look at ya,,,you're so jazzed you couldn't resist flyin' over my obtuseness.

Ya happy now, dj, you got your big old Lawson run...

B7r6A6YQdtI

Darius McCrary
07-19-2015, 10:11 PM
ty is about to trade in the liquor for styrofoam cups of leanhttp://i61.tinypic.com/2akecd4.png


:toast:

100%duncan
07-19-2015, 10:12 PM
622949600832294912

Lolkers

LkrFan
07-19-2015, 10:15 PM
WC Playoff LOCKS:

1) Dubs
2) Rockets
3) Clipps
4) Spurs
5) OKC
6) Grizz

Two spots up for grabs.

DPG21920
07-19-2015, 10:18 PM
How is it possible that LA couldn't beat HOU's offer of nothing :lol

Mugen
07-19-2015, 10:19 PM
Look at ya,,,you're so jazzed you couldn't resist flyin' over my obtuseness.

Ya happy now, dj, you got your big old Lawson run...

B7r6A6YQdtI

:lol only you Cubby

LkrFan
07-19-2015, 10:21 PM
How is it possible that LA couldn't beat HOU's offer of nothing :lol
What use is it to bring Lawson in? We just drafted our future PG. Why have somebody like Lawson around our young players? It makes no sense.

Thread
07-19-2015, 10:24 PM
What use is it to bring Lawson in? We just drafted our future PG. Why have somebody like Lawson around our young players? It makes no sense.

You're talking to a brick wall...a short, brick wall.

djohn2oo8
07-19-2015, 10:26 PM
What use is it to bring Lawson in? We just drafted our future PG. Why have somebody like Lawson around our young players? It makes no sense.
Mitch still tried to :lol

LkrFan
07-19-2015, 10:26 PM
You're talking to a brick wall...a short, brick wall.

:lol

LkrFan
07-19-2015, 10:27 PM
Mitch still tried to :lol
I doubt it son. :lol

spankadelphia
07-19-2015, 10:27 PM
:lmaotrading for an alcoholic point guard

Know any full blown alcoholics with a spot in the rotation for a playoff team? Or on an active NBA roster for that matter? I'll wait.

GuerillaBlack
07-19-2015, 10:27 PM
Last year, we relied on Josh Smith to be the play maker when Harden is resting. Now Harden can get some rest while Lawson pounds the ball.

Lawson's fit with Harden is questionable, but we shall see how much Harden can play off the ball.

Harden can still spot up shoot for a bit when Lawson has the ball. I'd just stagger them a bit and have Lawson in with Thornton more. Not even worried though. They are friends off the court and good players find a way to play together. It is a damn steal of a trade. Gave up literally nobody for a starter that puts the Rockets in top four in the NBA.

Kikoluna
07-19-2015, 10:28 PM
Wished spurs had this guy. Better to have a drunk pg that a 20 pound overweight pg.

GuerillaBlack
07-19-2015, 10:29 PM
Lawson/Beverley/Terry
Harden/Thornton/McDaniels
Ariza/Brewer/Dekker
DMo/Jones/Harrell
Dwight/Capela

That is one deep lineup. Hope the young players continue to improve and Dwight stays healthy.

TDMVPDPOY
07-19-2015, 10:44 PM
whats with rich athletes who has all this money, wasted it on shit when the avg person can spend less but get a better product...

hardens spends 25k to get laid, but look at those hoes...
d12 bastard guy with 5 bastard children

now with ty law a drunk...i wonder how much he spends on booze, let alone the brand his drinking to get drunk....not those 40oz drinks? isnt that diluted shit without the fizz?

DaDakota
07-19-2015, 11:29 PM
Nice pickup by Morey.

DD

Clipper Nation
07-19-2015, 11:33 PM
We just drafted our future PG.

http://i.imgur.com/YxQHgLu.gif

Thread
07-19-2015, 11:33 PM
Lawson/Beverley/Terry
Harden/Thornton/McDaniels
Ariza/Brewer/Dekker
DMo/Jones/Harrell
Dwight/Capela

That is one deep lineup. Hope the young players continue to improve and Dwight stays healthy.

You're gonna miss Smith. He was a solid, serious basketball player as he hunted that ring. You have to replace that. You can't just pretend it didn't happen.

GuerillaBlack
07-20-2015, 12:01 AM
You're gonna miss Smith. He was a solid, serious basketball player as he hunted that ring. You have to replace that. You can't just pretend it didn't happen.

We replaced his playmaking abilities with a guy who is better at it. Plus, improved the free throw and three point shooting of the team. I crigned every time Smith went to the line. I won't with Lawson. You just hope the young bigs continue to grow and produce.

Mark Celibate
07-20-2015, 12:15 AM
Not much of an upgrade over Beverley imho. Houston is a good destination for this drunkhead, nonetheless.

Johnny RIngo
07-20-2015, 01:00 AM
What use is it to bring Lawson in? We just drafted our future PG. Why have somebody like Lawson around our young players? It makes no sense.

Russell's not a point guard. He's Kobe's replacement more than anything. With Kobe not willing to go away anytime soon, Lakers are probably gonna screw up the kid's development by playing him out of position (not to mention picking up bad habits from Bryant).

SPM
07-20-2015, 01:01 AM
A recovering alcoholic on a team led by Harden and Dwight? That'll end well.

:lol Pretty much. Does nothing for me personally, but t fans like DJohn will probably bust a nut over getting a scrub who plays no D and can't shoot.

SPM
07-20-2015, 01:08 AM
Wished spurs had this guy. Better to have a drunk pg that a 20 pound overweight pg.

:lol

noob cake
07-20-2015, 01:33 AM
Harden can still spot up shoot for a bit when Lawson has the ball. I'd just stagger them a bit and have Lawson in with Thornton more. Not even worried though. They are friends off the court and good players find a way to play together. It is a damn steal of a trade. Gave up literally nobody for a starter that puts the Rockets in top four in the NBA.

You are right. Harden and Lawson will probably be staggered. Let Lawson start for show/respect. Pull him early so he can play more as the 2nd unit lead man. He can jack all the shot and play PG at the same time. Harden is honestly not a great spot up shooter.

LakerHater
07-20-2015, 02:35 AM
Well Lucas can put him in his facility!

ambchang
07-20-2015, 06:51 AM
The rox reminds me a lot of the jailblazers. Great talent, questionable character, no regard for team chemistry.

They can vmbe dangerous, go deep in the playoffs, beat anyone at anytime, but something will rear its ugly head at the wrong time and they will be kicked out of the playoffs year after year, the entire thing will collapse due to egos and morey will have nothing to show for his genius.

djohn2oo8
07-20-2015, 07:08 AM
The rox reminds me a lot of the jailblazers. Great talent, questionable character, no regard for team chemistry.

They can vmbe dangerous, go deep in the playoffs, beat anyone at anytime, but something will rear its ugly head at the wrong time and they will be kicked out of the playoffs year after year, the entire thing will collapse due to egos and morey will have nothing to show for his genius.
They have some regard for team chemistry. Smith was labeled a "cancer" before he got to Houston. Now look at him.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-20-2015, 07:43 AM
Not much of an upgrade over Beverley imho. Houston is a good destination for this drunkhead, nonetheless.

It's an offensive upgrade, but a defensive downgrade, so it a wash. But Lawson needs the ball in his hand to be productive, and with the Rockets offense being run through Harden, it probably going to be difficult for Lawson to fit in.

That is why Beverly is the perfect PG for the Rockets. Great defender, but doesn't need to be ball dominate, so he doesn't mind deferring to Harden.

Good pickup by the Rockets. Should use him as a 6th man, not a starter.

703 Spurz
07-20-2015, 08:01 AM
Perhaps it's just b/c I'm a Spurs fan and pay attention to what happens in the division but fuck man, it seems like Dallas, Memphis, and Houston make 20 moves an offseason to become better.

Double-Up
07-20-2015, 08:25 AM
:lol who's the last guy that John Lucas successfully mentored? I'm pretty sure Stevie Franchise is in a crack den somewhere in Baltimore tbh

Yea I was thinking along the same line. :lol

Killakobe81
07-20-2015, 08:28 AM
It's an offensive upgrade, but a defensive downgrade, so it a wash. But Lawson needs the ball in his hand to be productive, and with the Rockets offense being run through Harden, it probably going to be difficult for Lawson to fit in.

That is why Beverly is the perfect PG for the Rockets. Great defender, but doesn't need to be ball dominate, so he doesn't mind deferring to Harden.

Good pickup by the Rockets. Should use him as a 6th man, not a starter.


This. All in all could be a steal especially if we see the Lawson we saw early in his career the past few he has been unimpressive. and i watch him fairly close as UNC is my mistress NCAA team. Bruins (of course) my primary squad.

Spurs9
07-20-2015, 08:52 AM
Houstonhas a good freeway system for Ty tbh

Kidd K
07-20-2015, 09:29 AM
Houston will probably be the 3rd best team in the west this season tbh. Lawson will add a nice dimension to their offense.



The problem is Harden and Dwight...Harden is literally incapable of playing off the ball...and Dwight wont play defense unless he has the ball...Ty is good but unfortunately those two mental midgets will fuck it up...If Harden knew how to play off the ball like Clay Thompson the Rox could make some noise...

Wut?

I know he's become a bit of a ball hog but Harden used to play with Durant and Chuckbrook for years. He had no choice but to play off the ball. His efficiency will probably go up because of Lawson being on the team instead of some shitter like Lin or Beverley.

The Gemini Method
07-20-2015, 10:45 AM
Why not pick up J.R. Smith and see who leads the Rockets in Breathalyzer tests per season next year.

Double-Up
07-20-2015, 10:51 AM
Why not pick up J.R. Smith and see who leads the Rockets in Breathalyzer tests per season next year.

"ESPN sources say that the Lakers were also a determined trade bidder for Ty Lawson, but Denver clearly preferred what the Rockets offered"

Double-Up
07-20-2015, 10:52 AM
^ :lmao

The Gemini Method
07-20-2015, 10:56 AM
^ :lmao and? I have long stopped caring what this FO is doing.

TDMVPDPOY
07-20-2015, 11:00 AM
so they wasted a no.2 pick and wants to trade for lawson....roflmao fakers

djohn2oo8
07-20-2015, 11:56 AM
It's an offensive upgrade, but a defensive downgrade, so it a wash. But Lawson needs the ball in his hand to be productive, and with the Rockets offense being run through Harden, it probably going to be difficult for Lawson to fit in.

That is why Beverly is the perfect PG for the Rockets. Great defender, but doesn't need to be ball dominate, so he doesn't mind deferring to Harden.

Good pickup by the Rockets. Should use him as a 6th man, not a starter.

Bev's problem is he can't pass to save his life.

Killakobe81
07-20-2015, 12:12 PM
"ESPN sources say that the Lakers were also a determined trade bidder for Ty Lawson, but Denver clearly preferred what the Rockets offered"


Not sure what the big deal is. Rox offered more they got who they wanted good for them. Not sure why this is funny seem to be reaching here Double you can make fun of real issues with the Lakers outbidding the Lakers for Lawson is not one of them ...

Double-Up
07-20-2015, 12:49 PM
Not sure what the big deal is. Rox offered more they got who they wanted good for them. Not sure why this is funny seem to be reaching here Double you can make fun of real issues with the Lakers outbidding the Lakers for Lawson is not one of them ...

We gave them trash, how the hell couldn't the Lakers outbid trash? You have to admit it is pretty funny, especially when you just drafted a PG. :lol

Earl
07-20-2015, 01:34 PM
This team has DEPTH.

PG Lawson/Beverley/Terry
SG Harden/Brewer/Thornton
SF Ariza/Dekker/McDaniels
PF Motiejunas/Jones/Harrell/Alan Williams
C Howard/Capela

UNT Eagles 2016
07-20-2015, 01:54 PM
You are right. Harden and Lawson will probably be staggered. Let Lawson start for show/respect. Pull him early so he can play more as the 2nd unit lead man. He can jack all the shot and play PG at the same time. Harden is honestly not a great spot up shooter.
Harden did pretty damn fine the last time he played with a scoring PG...

UNT Eagles 2016
07-20-2015, 01:55 PM
The 2016 hou pick is likely in the 25 - 30. The 2017 den pick very likely is in the 31 to 40. So basically like drafting out of the first round in the year the rox is probably looking for another max player.

That does not seem much for a pretty solid PG. Hope the NBA consider altering the trade a little bit to make it more fair.
Lawson comes with EC baggage, so his value comes down a bit.

djohn2oo8
07-20-2015, 04:55 PM
623241514806808576

Fuck yeah!!!

The Franchise
07-20-2015, 05:17 PM
I woke up this morning for work, saw this shit and almost called in. The west is going to be bananas again.

TD 21
07-20-2015, 05:27 PM
This team has DEPTH.

PG Lawson/Beverley/Terry
SG Harden/Brewer/Thornton
SF Ariza/Dekker/McDaniels
PF Motiejunas/Jones/Harrell/Alan Williams
C Howard/Capela

More like:

Jones/Motiejunas/Harrell
Ariza/Brewer/Dekker
Howard/Capela/Hayes
Harden/Thornton/McDaniels
Lawson/Beverley/Terry

It's possible Motiejunas starts over Jones, but either way, expect a nine man rotation, with Brewer and Beverley splitting the backup SG minutes.

They're deep, no question, but they might be too deep, as far players who likely expect to be in the rotation. How will at least two of Terry, Thornton and McDaniels handle being non rotation players? And if they do play ten, how will Brewer and Beverley handle more limited minutes off the bench?

buttsR4rebounding
07-20-2015, 05:35 PM
Should have Lawson as 6th man, would be huge for their bench unit and would maximize his impact..

Lawson has to come off the bench. Harden would not stand for someone dominating the ball like Lawson.

Indazone
07-20-2015, 05:40 PM
It's an offensive upgrade, but a defensive downgrade, so it a wash. But Lawson needs the ball in his hand to be productive, and with the Rockets offense being run through Harden, it probably going to be difficult for Lawson to fit in.

That is why Beverly is the perfect PG for the Rockets. Great defender, but doesn't need to be ball dominate, so he doesn't mind deferring to Harden.

Good pickup by the Rockets. Should use him as a 6th man, not a starter.


Last time ire the Rockets tried to play a ball dominant guard with Harden both their efficiencies went down. It's obvious Ty Lawson will play on the second unit while Beverly plays on the first unit. McHale wants his starting point guard to pass the ball and make the occasional three pointer. Play defense. That's not Ty Lawson. However having Lawson on the second unit gives the bench a lot more offensive punch. The three guard rotation of Lawson, Beverly and Terry will be a formidable guard trio.

djohn2oo8
07-20-2015, 05:47 PM
Last time ire the Rockets tried to play a ball dominant guard with Harden both their efficiencies went down. It's obvious Ty Lawson will play on the second unit while Beverly plays on the first unit. McHale wants his starting point guard to pass the ball and make the occasional three pointer. Play defense. That's not Ty Lawson. However having Lawson on the second unit gives the bench a lot more offensive punch. The three guard rotation of Lawson, Beverly and Terry will be a formidable guard trio.

What ball dominant guard did they play with Harden?

djohn2oo8
07-20-2015, 06:31 PM
From grantland

Sure, Lawson “needs” the ball, but that doesn’t mean he’s ineffective in a secondary role. He’ll touch it plenty; Harden sucks entire defenses toward him as he dribbles up high on the pick-and-roll, and if he spots Lawson’s defender tiptoeing into the paint, Harden can whip the ball to his new teammate. Give Lawson a head start like that, and you’re toast. Diversity is healthy, anyway. Houston badly needs a secondary creator so that Harden can play fewer minutes and do less heavy lifting when he’s on the floor. He can be a capable spot-up shooter, too.

Houston’s offense died all season with Harden on the bench. Things got especially embarrassing in the conference finals, when Golden State outscored the Rockets by 36 points in the 41 minutes Harden rested, per NBA.com. The series was almost dead even with Harden on the court, and if Lawson commits, Houston should be able to at least survive when Harden sits. Lawson can carry second units even if he starts, provided Kevin McHale staggers minutes properly.

djohn2oo8
07-20-2015, 06:45 PM
Ty Lawson allows final season of contract to become unguaranteed, puts $13,213,482 on the line
Dan Feldman Jul 20, 2015, 6:13 PM EDT

Ty Lawson really wanted out of Denver.
The point guard, as a condition of his trade from the Nuggets to the Rockets, agreed to alter his contract.
Previously, he was owed $12,404,495 this season and $13,213,482 next season – both years guaranteed.
Zach Lowe of Grantland:

Trading for Lawson, who’s been arrested twice for DUI in the last six months, was already a risk worth taking for the Rockets. This news makes it an even better bet than previously thought.
If Lawson struggles this season – on or off the court – Houston can just waive him before the 2016-17 season begins with no cap hit.
It’s unclear whether Lawson got a guarantee date for that season. If he didn’t, the Rockets could use his contract as a major trade chip next summer if he’s not worth the money on the court. The Cavaliers are shopping Brendan Haywood‘s deal the same way this summer, though such a contract has more value now before the salary cap shoots up. (Update: Lawson has a June guarantee date, according to Eric Pincus of Basketball Insiders.)
More immediately, Lawson is betting on himself in a major way – and it might work.
I think his personal and professional issues are related. Lawson clearly hasn’t been happy with the Nuggets, and although that doesn’t excuse his actions, it might explain them. People are more likely to stay on the straight and narrow when the straight and narrow offers a fulfilling existence.
Simply, I think Lawson is more likely to stay sober when that means a spot on a high-end team than he was willing to stay sober for a spot on a lottery squad.
More than $13 million will only increase Lawson’s motivation.
This isn’t a silver bullet to getting Lawson healthy, but it gives him more incentive not to drink. He clearly sees the upside, too. He had to agree to reduce the protected compensation in his contract.
Lawson has talked about leaving Denver, avoiding legal troubles, being a good NBA citizen.
He just put his money where his mouth is.

SPM
07-20-2015, 09:48 PM
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djohn2oo8
09-13-2015, 09:49 AM
Lawson on potentially coming off the bench.

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hater
09-13-2015, 09:59 AM
2 midgets at the point plus terrys dead corpse. Good thing for Houston is they wont matter cause hardon n is going to hog the ball anyways :lmao

Indazone
09-16-2015, 01:21 PM
Now McHale saying that Ty ain't guaranteed as the starter. :lol

Rockets coach Kevin McHale raved about the skills Ty Lawson will bring and how well those skills will fit. He would not, however, assume that Lawson will start over the incumbent at the point, Pat Beverley, or how the minutes will be distributed.

“They’ll determine that,” McHale said before a Rockets event on Tuesday to unveil three new alternate uniforms. “We’ll find out. Can we play them together? Maybe. We’ll put them out there. We had 28 days of camp. We’ll decide who will get the lion’s share of the minutes. One will and one will be a backup.”

When he spoke to the crowd later, McHale praised Lawson, but said he has to return to his level of play prior to last season.

“Ty last year had a very average year in Denver compared to what he had done before,” McHale said. “(Former Nuggets coach) George Karl runs a little bit more of an open offense like we run here, get up and down, attack. We want Ty to do what he does best, get in the paint, make plays for others, scoring.

“Since we had (Goran) Dragic, he’ll probably be our best guy at getting in the paint and then throwing out from the paint. He can make all the passes. And he’s got to get back to playing better defense. He’s got to be the head of the snake defensively. He can. I’ve seen him.

“If he just does what he does well, he’ll be a fit for us.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterocket...arting-lineup/ (http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2015/09/mchale-says-lawson-not-guaranteed-spot-in-starting-lineup/)

Indazone
09-16-2015, 01:23 PM
You watch, Lawson will be the designated go stand in the corner guard while Hard On do his thing. If you're open you best be hitting that open jay.

djohn2oo8
09-16-2015, 05:59 PM
You watch, Lawson will be the designated go stand in the corner guard while Hard On do his thing. If you're open you best be hitting that open jay.

Um, if Harden is double teamed with Lawson on the court, Lawson can just drive in to the basket.

hater
09-16-2015, 07:06 PM
Um, if Harden is double teamed with Lawson on the court, Lawson can just drive in to the basket.

You need a ball to drive in to the basket

djohn2oo8
09-16-2015, 07:21 PM
You need a ball to drive in to the basket

Harden will pass it. You don't average 7 assists a game by not passing.

Double-Up
09-16-2015, 09:19 PM
Harden will pass it. You don't average 7 assists a game by not passing.

Tell that to Steve Francis and Allen Iverson...:lol

Double-Up
09-16-2015, 09:20 PM
Everything will work out though...it's all good.

Indazone
11-15-2015, 01:37 PM
I told you dumb asses that this would happen to Ty Lawson. He just got McHale'd and is getting the Jeremy Lin treatment.

Houston Rockets, James Harden Ruined it for Jeremy Lin; Doing the same to Ty Lawson (http://sportige.com/86846-houston-rockets-james-harden-ruined-it-for-jeremy-lin-doing-the-same-to-ty-lawson/)
The Dallas Mavericks stunned the Houston Rockets 110-98, losing another game in which James Harden acted like he’s the only player on the floor. Ty Lawson might wanna call up Jeremy Lin in Charlotte and ask him how to handle being used like a forgotten second guard standing all alone in the corner.

http://sportige.com/86846-houston-rockets-james-harden-ruined-it-for-jeremy-lin-doing-the-same-to-ty-lawson/ :lol