My expectations from Parker for the 2015-2016 campaign.

[xellos88330]

If you were an opposing defense, who would you send to help? IMO, the best person to help off of would be Parker. This is not meant as a slight against Parker, but it is simply mathematical. Parker just isn't a long range threat like Green or Leonard. Keeping this in mind, last season Parker took and made the most threes since 2005 according to basketball-reference.com (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html) The wrinkle in this is that he posted a career high 3pt percentage at 42.7%. I remember watching the season that the 3's he was attempting weren't mainly from the corner as in previous years (excluding the beginning of his career). I found this quite surprising.

Long story short, I was mulling it over and I am actually thinking that Parker will have banner year. Of all of the starting 5, I believe that Parker will be the one who benefits most from the signing of Aldridge. Should his 3pt % show last season wasn't a fluke, Parker will most likely tear this league a new one.

I know that everyone is hungover from celebrating our summer title last night, but I would like to have your serious thoughts on your expectations of Parker this upcoming season. :toast

[Laughing Gravy]

My expectations are that he will be a little better than last year, sprain his ankle and or strain a calf/hammy/hip flexor midway and come into the playoffs well rested.

He will play a few great games in the playoffs, but the most important pg during crunch time will be Patty Mills.

In before dribbledribbledribbledribble chuck! dribbledribbledribbledribble chuuuck!!!!

[eDizzle20]

I think he'll have a good year since he won't be relied heavily upon to generate offense. Averages... 14 ppg, 5 apg, and 51% fg.

[Kuestmaster]

Just pray whataburger goes bankrupt.

[SuperCam]

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[SquawkinHawkBigCock]

Spursfan predicts PG going on 34 years whose game was predicted on elite quickness will recover from being a bottom 5 starting PG :downspin:
He's probably still better than super chucker Kemba Walker

[LiSpurs516]

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/tony-parker-s-offseason-workout-plan-could-change-the-course-of-his-career-061815
The articles from this past June, but fwiw I think Parker realized he was porker and has been working to change that.

[SpursFan86]

Ideally, I'd like to see him at least get back to where he was during the 2013-2014 regular season. It's unrealistic to expect him to ever return to being a top 5 PG in the league, but at the same time, I can't help but think there's no way in hell he'll be as bad as he was last season. Hopefully the extra spacing that Aldridge/West will provide will create more space in the paint for him.

It'd also be nice if he could continue working on that 3-point shot. Worse comes to worst, at least he'd be a spot-up 3 threat that teams can't just ignore on the perimeter.

[Kikoluna]

Weight control, agree entirely with whataburger threat

[Diego20]

I would be happy with some improved defense..

[ChumpDumper]

Everyone's trying out their shiny new alts.

[Johnny RIngo]

The wrinkle in this is that he posted a career high 3pt percentage at 42.7%. I remember watching the season that the 3's he was attempting weren't mainly from the corner as in previous years (excluding the beginning of his career). I found this quite surprising.

Long story short, I was mulling it over and I am actually thinking that Parker will have banner year. Of all of the starting 5, I believe that Parker will be the one who benefits most from the signing of Aldridge. Should his 3pt % show last season wasn't a fluke, Parker will most likely tear this league a new one.

Don't be deceived by those numbers. His three point shooting was flukey as hell last year. Shot around 50% pre-all star break and proceeded to fall back to earth afterwards. Shot 28% from three post-all star break. 0% from three in the playoffs. I don't think it's realistic to expect TP to shoot 40% from three again. Anything above 35% would be fine.

[dabom]

Everyone's trying out their shiny new alts.

There is no conspiracy. Everyone just knows Enrique needs to lose some weight.

How hard is that to understand?

[ChumpDumper]

There is no conspiracy. Everyone just knows Enrique needs to lose some weight.

How hard is that to understand?So defensive. You can tell who made an alt pretty easily.

[dabom]

So defensive. You can tell who made an alt pretty easily.

Tell me who the alts are in this thread then.

[ChumpDumper]

Tell me who the alts are in this thread then.The ones who have alts are the ones who get defensive when the subject of alts is brought up.

[dabom]

The ones who have alts are the ones who get defensive when the subject of alts is brought up.

You came in here calling out alts but how could you tell if the "subject of alts" was never raised?

[ChumpDumper]

You came in here calling out alts but how could you tell if the "subject of alts" was never raised?I brought it up. What part of that do you not understand?

[dabom]

You should reread my last response. :bang

[ChumpDumper]

You should reread my last response. :bangYes, I can tell. the defensive posters make it easier tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

He'll be better just on the fact that he doesn't have two 7 footers clogging up the paint anymore, same goes for Kawhi. The early playoff exit will help him and the rest of our older guys tremendously and euro basket will get Parker in shape for training camp.

[SAGirl]

I think he'll have a good year since he won't be relied heavily upon to generate offense. Averages... 14 ppg, 5 apg, and 51% fg.
Agree with this. If he can sustain his 3 pt shooting he will be fine scoring. His athletic drop off is most noticeable in his creating for others, which he wont be relied as much to do. Hopefully he will then have the legs to hit his jumpshots. If he can do that and stay healthy, he could hopefully have a bounce back year.

[z0sa]

Im not terribly concerned with him regaining most of his offensive form. I think he can still turn the jets on with the best of em for another couple seasons, as long as he can reach and maintain peak fitness and conditioning.

What concerns me is the other end of the floor.

[313]

Overall he has hot 47% from three but I remember for a while he was blazing hot, shooting something like 55% from three. Obviously that wasn't sustainable, but I'd like to see what his percentage was after that hot streak the first couple of months of the season.

Like other have posted, I expect him to be at least better than last season, with the improved spacing and all.

[HarlemHeat37]

If he accepts his role as a facilitator that just runs the offense, shoots open shots and takes advantage of the occasional mismatch when he's hot, he should have a nice season IMO..if he tries to be a star again, the team is going to suffer tremendously..

[Bruno]

Healthy Parker was playing at an all star level last season, too bad it lasted only 2 months.
So if he can put all his injuries behind him, but it's a big if given all the mileages he has, I expect him to be a top 5 PG in the league.

[Spur-Addict]

Good Health first and foremost, stay on top of that. Take care of yourself. Efficiency, and others have said, facilitate.

[FkLA]

So much hype over percentage for a guy that made 38 total threes all year. Yeah, that's right he made a grand total of 38 threes. I repeat 38. Not to mention the fact that he couldn't nail a single one in the playoffs.

[FkLA]

Healthy Parker was playing at an all star level last season, too bad it lasted only 2 months.
So if he can put all his injuries behind him, but it's a big if given all the mileages he has, I expect him to be a top 5 PG in the league.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/flags/France.gif

Bruno is a Spurs fan from France.

[apalisoc_9]

Parker should really start gunning the first 10 games. It seems like some coaches in the league ( Rivers is one of them as evident with the LA series), have completely considered him a detrimental player, one that you would allow to be the offense to take away the real offense. It's important that he regains good reputation back to allow Aldrdige and Leonard more room.

If he's going to be terrible at the start of the season, it's going to be a nightmare mainly because we know he's not going to be A team player and accept a different role. If he plays super passive, teams are just going to corral Aldridge and Leonard. He needs to drive to the basket when he's open and he needs to make those open jump shots...

[apalisoc_9]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/flags/France.gif

Bruno is a Spurs fan from France.

Top 5 PG.

:lmao

[FkLA]

Top 5 PG.

:lmao

Kuumia

[Bruno]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/flags/France.gif

Bruno is a Spurs fan from France.

Shemale porn...

[FkLA]

Shemale porn...

Deflecting...

[apalisoc_9]

Not sure why Bruno is attacking FKLA tbh?

Like isn't he a fan from France? Seems pretty factual to me.

[Bruno]

Top 5 PG.

:lmao

Go create other alt accounts to suck you own dick:
"knows his basketball more than 90% of the posters here though and is clearly a VIP or a very important poster" :rollin

[apalisoc_9]

I only ever created one alt in spur stalk history..

Not sure why Bruno is mad today.

He always seems to be a chill dude..

Now all of a sudden laughing at top 5 pg comment is making him aggressive..

[TheGreatYacht]

Go create other alt accounts to suck you own dick:
"knows his basketball more than 90% of the posters here though and is clearly a VIP or a very important poster" :rollin
:wow :lmao


http://youtu.be/bQlpDiXPZHQ

[koriwhat]

Tell me who the alts are in this thread then.

God youre such a pansy little queer. Demanding this or that, making up shit to act like you know something you dont, etc. Little queer boy.

[FkLA]

Go create other alt accounts to suck you own dick:
"knows his basketball more than 90% of the posters here though and is clearly a VIP or a very important poster" :rollin

More deflecting with personal attacks...

[dabom]

God youre such a pansy little queer. Demanding this or that, making up shit to act like you know something you dont, etc. Little queer boy.

You remind me of the cuck Blake. :lmao

[Bruno]

More deflecting with personal attacks...

Sure attacking people's nationality isn't personal...

Friendly advice, stop here.

[FkLA]

Sure attacking people's nationality isn't personal...

Friendly advice, stop here.

:lol Who attacked your nationality? All I did was connect your flag to your ridiculously biased post.

[apalisoc_9]

Sure attacking people's nationality isn't personal...

Friendly advice, stop here.

Where did FKLA attack your nationality?

I don't see it.

[Bruno]

:lol Who attacked your nationality? All I did was connect your flag to your ridiculously biased post.

And all I did was connect your incredible stupidity to too much faping in frond of shemale porn. All that blood going to you dick instead of irrigating your brain has caused severe damages.

I'm just connecting, dude...

[koriwhat]

You remind me of the cuck Blake. :lmao

I remind you of a dude you dont know and someone i couldnt be more 180 from? Wtf? Just like all trolls, you say shit that means nothing but for some reason you believe to be some kind of badass knowitall. Talk bball and stop with the drama you little prissy bitch.

[SupremeGuy]

Spursfan predicts PG going on 34 years whose game was predicted on elite quickness will recover from being a bottom 5 starting PG :downspin:This is how fucking bad porker has become, tbh. We're being mocked by fucking Bobcat fans... let that fucking sink in. If that french asshole is a detriment to the team on both sides of the court next year, regardless of who we signed, we're fucked. I hope Pop has the balls to take his little french sweetheart out back and tell him to look at the flowers.

[apalisoc_9]

Wow I've never seen Bruno give personal attack ever.

FKLA, you struck a chord bro. :lol

[SupremeGuy]

There is no conspiracy. Everyone just knows Enrique needs to lose some weight.

How hard is that to understand?:cry everyone critical of our slow, brick laying PG is an alt :cry

[dabom]

I remind you of a dude you dont know and someone i couldnt be more 180 from? Wtf? Just like all trolls, you say shit that means nothing but for some reason you believe to be some kind of badass knowitall. Talk bball and stop with the drama you little prissy bitch.

Defensive much? Must be true. I even gave you a pass today. :lmao

[FkLA]

And all I did was connect your incredible stupidity to too much faping in frond of shemale porn. All that blood going to you dick instead of irrigating your brain has caused severe damages.

I'm just connecting, dude...

If I'm incredibly stupid what does that make the guy that thinks Enrique can still be a Top 5 PG?

[koriwhat]

I cant wait til ST shuts down. Not that i want it to because sometimes theres some actual bball conversations once in a blue moon. It would just be nice knowing those that ruined this place with their lame wannabe jokes and alts will have to find somewhere else new. If i had to, id lay odds that all the little trolls here are trolls elsewhere but these trolls are so cool and live lavish lives but still find the time to post on ST taking 23 hrs a fay out of their busy schedules to do so.

[Clipper Nation]

Wow I've never seen Bruno give personal attack ever.

FKLA, you struck a chord bro. :lol
:lol The French haven't been this butthurt since Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette were in charge.

[dabom]

Lets just be clear. Tony is never going to be a top 5 pg anymore.

[DenialTwist]

Freddie Coleman on ESPN called Parker "still a serviceable point guard" in a tone that made it sound like he was saying "well, he'll do for now" lol
Realistic expectations for Parker: that he'll stay healthy and won't have any recurring hamstring, ankle or achilles issues. He won't have the same pressure now that Aldridge is there, to create shots for himself to score. He needs to be a better facilitator (1 assist ain't gonna cut it) because in the last playoffs he was injured and couldn't penetrate or attack the basket to kick out to shooters, and also the defense didn't respect his midrange game because he was shooting like 20% from the field. He also needs to stay in shape. The Eurobasket is a positive thing because his conditioning will improve and he'll be ready for training camp. Hope he'll teach McCallum a thing or two so that McCallum will also be ready to play for him when Parker rests games throughout the season.

[dabom]

I cant wait til ST shuts down. Not that i want it to because sometimes theres some actual bball conversations once in a blue moon. It would just be nice knowing those that ruined this place with their lame wannabe jokes and alts will have to find somewhere else new. If i had to, id lay odds that all the little trolls here are trolls elsewhere but these trolls are so cool and live lavish lives but still find the time to post on ST taking 23 hrs a fay out of their busy schedules to do so.

Doom prophecies. Never heard that before. :lmao

[koriwhat]

Defensive much? Must be true. I even gave you a pass today. :lmao

So if chump calls you out for being a troll and using alts ect and you get your panties in a wad because it's true well thats not you getting defensive? But if i state the truth im being defensive? It doesnt work both ways you little queer you.

[timtonymanu]

Role player Tony >>> top 5 PG Tony

I just don't see the need for him to demand a lot of touches anymore with all the offensive weapons the Spurs have now. I just want him to facilitate.

[dabom]

Let me save you a couple of pages of embarrassment.

http://oi46.tinypic.com/333g745.jpg

:lmao

[koriwhat]

I posted more than just that photo. Post all my photos youve archived. I dont give a shit big dog!

[koriwhat]

Btw, just proves youre a little queer. Trust me when i say, i have no dudes photo saved nor do i care to look them up or post them. Print that photo out of me and put it in your wallet little strawberry you.

[dabom]

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/RTM-322/koriwhat-sucks.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/user/RackTheMouse/media/RTM-322/koriwhat-sucks.jpg.html)

:lmao

[FkLA]

Role player Tony >>> top 5 PG Tony

I just don't see the need for him to demand a lot of touches anymore with all the offensive weapons the Spurs have now. I just want him to facilitate.

Him accepting being a role player is easier said than done though. He took 20+ shots in a Game 7 even though he was shooting 30% from the field and looked like he was playing with ankle weights on. He kept chucking in the title clinching game even though he started off like 0-15 tbh.

[koriwhat]

So rehashing old shit is supposed to be embarrassing? Ok. Word to the wise, I'm not easily embarrassed.

[TheGreatYacht]

Dabom is making Pinoys look so bad smh, haven't seen anything like it since Marquez

[dabom]

Dabom is making Pinoys look so bad smh, haven't seen anything like it since Marquez

I'm not filipino but guess again. :lmao

[koriwhat]

Yall bitch me out yrs ago claiming i ruin threads because i tried talking bball and then got sidetracked with these ho ass trolls... wtf? These are the people ruining threads.
Kori, close this site down already because youre losing money and catering to a bunch of children.

[timtonymanu]

Let me save you a couple of pages of embarrassment.

http://oi46.tinypic.com/333g745.jpg

:lmao

:lol all that's missing is Technique's "promoter" friend holding RMJ by the waist.

[dabom]

Yall bitch me out yrs ago claiming i ruin threads because i tried talking bball and then got sidetracked with these ho ass trolls... wtf? These are the people ruining threads.
Kori, close this site down already because youre losing money and catering to a bunch of children.

I had a civilized conversation with Chump and then you come out of nowhere and start attacking me. Then you get mad because you got "trolled". :lmao

[timtonymanu]

Him accepting being a role player is easier said than done though. He took 20+ shots in a Game 7 even though he was shooting 30% from the field and looked like he was playing with ankle weights on. He kept chucking in the title clinching game even though he started off like 0-15 tbh.

Oh yeah just like his player fans on here, I'm expecting him to approach the season like he has to be MVParker

[dabom]

:lol all that's missing is Technique's "promoter" friend holding RMJ by the waist.

:lol

[koriwhat]

I had a civilized conversation with Chump and then you come out of nowhere and start attacking me. Then you get mad because you got "trolled". :lmao

I got trolled? Please define because all i see is some little queer throwing terms out there like he has a clue what they mean.

[dabom]

I got trolled? Please define because all i see is some little queer throwing terms out there like he has a clue what they mean.

This is exactly what I expected to happen. I even have you 2 passes today. :lmao

[koriwhat]

Im done conversing with your bitchass daboom. Goodluck in your future endeavors.

[dabom]

Im done conversing with your bitchass daboom. Goodluck in your future endeavors.

au revoir

[timtonymanu]

:lol

How do you think that conversation went?

Kori: Hey Roger, I'm a huge Spurs fan. Just look at my calf tats (reveals his chicken legs).
RMJ: (nervous chuckle) that's cool, man.
Kori: can I take a picture with you so I can show my friends on Spurstalk?
RMJ: Uhh..sure.

[dabom]

How do you think that conversation went?

Kori: Hey Roger, I'm a huge Spurs fan. Just look at my calf tats (reveals his chicken legs).
RMJ: (nervous chuckle) that's cool, man.
Kori: can I take a picture with you so I can show my friends on Spurstalk?
RMJ: Uhh..sure.

I was going to write something but I'll leave the kid alone. He already made some questionable decisions in his life. He already has to live with that. :lol

[TXstbobcat]

As stacked as this Spurs roster is this season, Tony doesn't need to dominate for the Spurs to win. he just needs to stay healthy and he should play well this season. He doesn't need to be MVParker to win with this Spurs roster.

[All Mighty Janitor]

I think the Spurs are best served with Parker in a more reserved role taking shots when he's open, driving in open lanes(his burst shouldn't be completely gone), and just moving the ball otherwise; just less of him getting his own shot in general, regardless if he still can. He should focus on conserving himself more so he more fresh for the playoffs(also to prevent aggravating his seemingly chronic hamstring). Consistency will be key so the spurs don't have to really on the young guys too much. ppg:13.5, ast:4.5, fg%:50%

[All Mighty Janitor]

Also, Parker took all those shots in game seven because Kawhi wasn't producing in game 5 and 6. That and nobody was used to the Kawhi centered offence; nobody knew were their shots were coming from. I believe pop went away from Kawhi intentionally because there were no timeouts to stop Parker and he wasn't benched for taking so many shots. Pop went full ride-or-die with Parker(even though was[really] struggling himself) because that was the offence everybody was use to. I think injuries are all we can blame for the first round loss because it prevented the team from developing chemistry with Kawhi being the number 2 option(everyone is secondary option in the motion offence).

[TheGreatYacht]

Also, Parker took all those shots in game seven because Kawhi wasn't producing in game 5 and 6. That and nobody was used to the Kawhi centered offence; nobody knew were their shots were coming from. I believe pop went away from Kawhi intentionally because there were no timeouts to stop Parker and he wasn't benched for taking so many shots. Pop went full ride-or-die with Parker(even though was[really] struggling himself) because that was the offence everybody was use to. I think injuries are all we can blame for the first round loss because it prevented the team from developing chemistry with Kawhi being the number 2 option(everyone is secondary option in the motion offence).
Truth bombs

[Diego20]

Healthy Parker was playing at an all star level last season, too bad it lasted only 2 months.
So if he can put all his injuries behind him, but it's a big if given all the mileages he has, I expect him to be a top 5 PG in the league.

so "All Star level" means 2 months playing great?


Ok :lol

[lefty]

Just pray whataburger goes bankrupt.

:lmao

[SAGirl]

Thread derailed from bball discussion into personal attacks and trolling. Apa's return has immediately shitted on everyone else. Too bad, he should have stayed banned TBH. He only reduces the environment of the forum to his level. By the way no need to reply to this, I have you on ignore already, and only lament that others take time to respond to you. I choose to stay out of it.

[dabom]

Thread derailed from bball discussion into personal attacks and trolling. Apa's return has immediately shitted on everyone else. Too bad, he should have stayed banned TBH. He only reduces the environment of the forum to his level. By the way no need to reply to this, I have you on ignore already, and only lament that others take time to respond to you. I choose to stay out of it.

I don't know if this is a cry for attention tbh. Typical.

[ElNono]

hopefully "ugh, 2 more years of this" is not the overriding theme once the upcoming season is over, tbh...

[dabom]

hopefully "ugh, 2 more years of this" is not the overriding theme once the upcoming season is over, tbh...

or the "if only tony can make his jumpers he'll be alright" theme. :lmao

[100%duncan]

Parker needs to be the court general and not the scorer. He should be pass first especially with all the new offensibe weapons we have. He should have an open lane sometimes and he can take it. I expect 10 ppg, 6apg, 2 rpg

[timtonymanu]

or the "if only tony can make his jumpers he'll be alright" theme. :lmao

Or "he's not 100% right now."

[apalisoc_9]

Actually I think Parker should look to score in the first few games instead of being passive.

He needs to command respect. It should give Kawhi and Aldridge more room.

But if my hunch is right, lots of coaches in the league have already figured out and are convinced Parker is done. That's terrible considering Pop woudn't bench him even if he took 40 shots and missed them.

He needs to score the first few games and show he can still ball.

[100%duncan]

Surpises in this thread:
Bruno actually got mad. He usually chill.

Non-surprises:
Chump not talking basketball.
Koriwhat being a faggot.

[100%duncan]

Actually I think Parker should look to score in the first few games instead of being passive.

He needs to command respect. It should give Kawhi and Aldridge more room.

But if my hunch is right, lots of coaches in the league have already figured out and are convinced Parker is done. That's terrible considering Pop woudn't bench him even if he took 40 shots and missed them.

He needs to score the first few games and show he can still ball.

The problem ia, even if he wanted to, he just couldnt anymore. Top 5 pg is long gone and is gone forever.

[dabom]

Or "he's not 100% right now."

or "he needs to play more to get in to shape" conundrum. Play more risk injury. Play less and you don't get rhythm.

[apalisoc_9]

Ideally, I'd like to see him at least get back to where he was during the 2013-2014 regular season. It's unrealistic to expect him to ever return to being a top 5 PG in the league, but at the same time, I can't help but think there's no way in hell he'll be as bad as he was last season. Hopefully the extra spacing that Aldridge/West will provide will create more space in the paint for him.

It'd also be nice if he could continue working on that 3-point shot. Worse comes to worst, at least he'd be a spot-up 3 threat that teams can't just ignore on the perimeter.

Who is that girl in your sig?

damn!

She is so beautiful!

[TXstbobcat]

The problem ia, even if he wanted to, he just couldnt anymore. Top 5 pg is long gone and is gone forever.

He doesn't have to be a top 5 pg for the Spurs to win with this stacked lineup.

[dabom]

The problem ia, even if he wanted to, he just couldnt anymore. Top 5 pg is long gone and is gone forever.

I agree with this.

[100%duncan]

He doesn't have to be a top 5 pg for the Spurs to win with this stacked lineup.

Exactly. Does he know that?

[AFBlue]

I expect a bit of a rebirth like Duncan experienced a few years back.

[eric365]

The best play you can run with LMA and shooters like green in the corner and Duncan near the rim is the Pick and Roll

And last time I checked Parker is the only guy that can run a P&R in the starting unit (and maybe in the whole team depending of what Manu has left)

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Anything Parker can give us is just icing on the cake, oh wait maybe I shouldn't be using food analogies regarding Parker...

[Macca76]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/flags/France.gif

Bruno is a Spurs fan from France.

FkLA is a notorious Parker hater from Italy

[Macca76]

The problem ia, even if he wanted to, he just couldnt anymore. Top 5 pg is long gone and is gone forever.

This is what you think but tbh, I think it's way too soon to tell. Give the guy some slack, I still don't know after all these years why some so-called Spurs fans hate him.

Let him come back, he had a season plagued with injuries, let's hope he comes back healthy but in the meantime it's nothing but wild guessing to assume he won't be back at some good level. The additions of Aldridge and West will be good for him, it will give him space in the paint and it will take off some offensive weight in terms of scoring (especially Aldridge).

I honestly think he will be fine, but at this point it's just guess.

[FkLA]

Or "he's not 100% right now."

He already pulled the sore ankle, achilles and hamstring excuses in recent years. I wonder what minor injury excuse is next?

[FkLA]

This is what you think but tbh, I think it's way too soon to tell. Give the guy some slack, I still don't know after all these years why some so-called Spurs fans hate him.

Let him come back, he had a season plagued with injuries, let's hope he comes back healthy but in the meantime it's nothing but wild guessing to assume he won't be back at some good level. The additions of Aldridge and West will be good for him, it will give him space in the paint and it will take off some offensive weight in terms of scoring (especially Aldridge).

I honestly think he will be fine, but at this point it's just guess.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/flags/France.gif

Macca76 is a Porker fan from France.

[100%duncan]

This is what you think but tbh, I think it's way too soon to tell. Give the guy some slack, I still don't know after all these years why some so-called Spurs fans hate him.

Let him come back, he had a season plagued with injuries, let's hope he comes back healthy but in the meantime it's nothing but wild guessing to assume he won't be back at some good level. The additions of Aldridge and West will be good for him, it will give him space in the paint and it will take off some offensive weight in terms of scoring (especially Aldridge).

I honestly think he will be fine, but at this point it's just guess.
Stop being biased. He wont ever come near steph, wesbrook, cp3, irving, lillard, lowry, conley, teague. He wont be top 5 again. And we dont need him to be. I dont get why big parker fans always want him to "score more" as if its the only way to say he's back or he's helping the team. What the spurs need now is a court general and a facilitator and even a declining parker can do that if he committed to it.

[Macca76]

Stop being biased. He wont ever come near steph, wesbrook, cp3, irving, lillard, lowry, conley, teague. He wont be top 5 again. And we dont need him to be. I dont get why big parker fans always want him to "score more" as if its the only way to say he's back or he's helping the team. What the spurs need now is a court general and a facilitator and even a declining parker can do that if he committed to it.

You're right about top 5, maybe I got carried away because of all the bullshit pulled by Parkert haters this last season and I misread your post, I didn't focus enough about the Top 5 part. However I don't agree with the fact that he won't be nowhere near your list.
He'll be behind some players of that list, that's sure but not all. Well, maybe all but not far behind. A healthy Parker can be close to these players and it is your assumption to say that he won't come near them.
Maybe you're right, but my point is that it's far too soon to write him off. Maybe I'm biased (I don't think honestly), maybe I'm just not ready to give up on a player after an injury season, but I'm not worried about him.
About the scoring part, I disagree. We need easy points in the paint and we need TP to be able to score 10 in a quarter when needed. He's a court general and he's a facilitator but IMO, this part is shared in the Spurs team and THIS team doesn't rely on our PG for this as many other teams do.
And more over the PG position today is a scoring position.
Anyway, just my 2 cents on this.
PS : call me biased just because I'm French is jumping to conclusions just a little bit :p:

[100%duncan]

You're right about top 5, maybe I got carried away because of all the bullshit pulled by Parkert haters this last season and I misread your post, I didn't focus enough about the Top 5 part. However I don't agree with the fact that he won't be nowhere near your list.
He'll be behind some players of that list, that's sure but not all. Well, maybe all but not far behind. A healthy Parker can be close to these players and it is your assumption to say that he won't come near them.
Maybe you're right, but my point is that it's far too soon to write him off. Maybe I'm biased (I don't think honestly), maybe I'm just not ready to give up on a player after an injury season, but I'm not worried about him.
About the scoring part, I disagree. We need easy points in the paint and we need TP to be able to score 10 in a quarter when needed. He's a court general and he's a facilitator but IMO, this part is shared in the Spurs team and THIS team doesn't rely on our PG for this as many other teams do.
And more over the PG position today is a scoring position.
Anyway, just my 2 cents on this.
PS : call me biased just because I'm French is jumping to conclusions just a little bit :p:

I disagree about the scoring part. Look no further than game 7 last season, yeah sure he scored 20 plus points but we lost because the offense was in shambles. No one was able to facilitate it well enough and Pop for some otherworldy reason didnt play Patty to finish off games despite of his early heroics in the series. Yah the pg position is more on scoring but the Spurs is a different team, for instance, if Steph doesnt score as much they will have much problem at winning games look at games 2 and 3 against memphis. When the cavs lost irving, lebron had to do all the work offensively. When Conley isnt going, the Memphis offense stagnates. The spurs are different, we dont need parker to score a lot, hell we dont even need mills to score alot we value patty's spark and energy more, his scoring only second.

I dont care for nationalities, the most obnoxious parkertards here are americans :lol

[Macca76]

I disagree about the scoring part. Look no further than game 7 last season, yeah sure he scored 20 plus points but we lost because the offense was in shambles. No one was able to facilitate it well enough and Pop for some otherworldy reason didnt play Patty to finish off games despite of his early heroics in the series. Yah the pg position is more on scoring but the Spurs is a different team, for instance, if Steph doesnt score as much they will have much problem at winning games look at games 2 and 3 against memphis. When the cavs lost irving, lebron had to do all the work offensively. When Conley isnt going, the Memphis offense stagnates. The spurs are different, we dont need parker to score a lot, hell we dont even need mills to score alot we value patty's spark and energy more, his scoring only second.

I dont care for nationalities, the most obnoxious parkertards here are americans :lol


Let's say it differently : his effectiveness as a distributor is higher when he is a weapon on offense and when defenses really fear him so in the end I guess everything is connected. But I hear you about the fact that don't rely on 25 pts from him to win games. However I think that he needs his own offense to be good to facilitate the offense of others. And I think we missed last year the sparks he could give us at the beginning of the games when he could score easy points in the point at times when our offense wasn't really flowing.

In the past his plays in the paint opened up things for shooters and with the addition of LMA and DW, I think he's gonna be the one that will benefit the most from high % midrange shooters, things will be easier for him and maybe Simmons should he play.

[ceperez]

If you were an opposing defense, who would you send to help? IMO, the best person to help off of would be Parker. This is not meant as a slight against Parker, but it is simply mathematical. Parker just isn't a long range threat like Green or Leonard. Keeping this in mind, last season Parker took and made the most threes since 2005 according to basketball-reference.com (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html) The wrinkle in this is that he posted a career high 3pt percentage at 42.7%. I remember watching the season that the 3's he was attempting weren't mainly from the corner as in previous years (excluding the beginning of his career). I found this quite surprising.

Long story short, I was mulling it over and I am actually thinking that Parker will have banner year. Of all of the starting 5, I believe that Parker will be the one who benefits most from the signing of Aldridge. Should his 3pt % show last season wasn't a fluke, Parker will most likely tear this league a new one.

I know that everyone is hungover from celebrating our summer title last night, but I would like to have your serious thoughts on your expectations of Parker this upcoming season. :toast

Aldridge will space the floor giving Parker free reign to make his layups.

[skulls138]

Stop being biased. He wont ever come near steph, wesbrook, cp3, irving, lillard, lowry, conley, teague. He wont be top 5 again. And we dont need him to be. I dont get why big parker fans always want him to "score more" as if its the only way to say he's back or he's helping the team. What the spurs need now is a court general and a facilitator and even a declining parker can do that if he committed to it.
Why are you such a doubter? Its a valid point that Aldridge and West will open things up for Parker and I think he'll be more self motivated than the year before. I too think he should be more of a facilitator but that will only happen if he's pulling in defenders because of his scoring. Health and less minutes are the key

[steeledl]

Everyone wants to shit on Parker after he was injured last year and couldn't stay in basketball shape ..... He may never be as great as he was but if he is healthy he will be a solid player and be critical to our success.


Meanwhile, the real problem is ginobili. Dude has no legs, can't shoot, has trouble creating separation, makes a lot of bad decisions and I only see it getting worse...... As much as I love pop I think he will probably stick with ginobili and give him minutes he doesn't deserve out of his love for ginobili.... Could be a major problem in the playoffs.

[Diego20]

Everyone wants to shit on Parker after he was injured last year and couldn't stay in basketball shape ..... He may never be as great as he was but if he is healthy he will be a solid player and be critical to our success.


Meanwhile, the real problem is ginobili. Dude has no legs, can't shoot, has trouble creating separation, makes a lot of bad decisions and I only see it getting worse...... As much as I love pop I think he will probably stick with ginobili and give him minutes he doesn't deserve out of his love for ginobili.... Could be a major problem in the playoffs.


:lmao

[Mr Bones]

In the last three seasons, Parker's 3 pt %s have been 35.3%, 37.3%, and 42.7%. In those same three seasons, his FT%s have been 84.5%, 81.1%, and 78.3%. All of these percentages are above his career averages for 3pt and FT shooting, so I think it's clear he has improved as a pure shooter. I'd like for him to double the amount of threes he takes-- I think that would only open up the driving lanes for him more. And that would still only mean barely over one made three per game. Sure, he has lost speed, but he's still a reliable ball handler, and all he needs to do is take advantage of the open lanes LMA and West will afford him while playing smart...

[slick'81]

Its kinda hard to say after last season and he is 33 now.still i think hes good for 16/6 and if he could throw in some steals that would be nice

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Pop will tinker with lineups maniacally. He has 4 and maybe 5 bigs that can shoot, post up, and defend. A dynamic 3 that can do both.

Backup 1-3 is intriguing. Mills, McCallum, Manu, Anderson and Simmons.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Everyone wants to shit on Parker after he was injured last year and couldn't stay in basketball shape ..... He may never be as great as he was but if he is healthy he will be a solid player and be critical to our success.


Meanwhile, the real problem is ginobili. Dude has no legs, can't shoot, has trouble creating separation, makes a lot of bad decisions and I only see it getting worse...... As much as I love pop I think he will probably stick with ginobili and give him minutes he doesn't deserve out of his love for ginobili.... Could be a major problem in the playoffs.

Manu vs Parker mentality is the problem.

[TheGreatYacht]

Everyone wants to shit on Parker after he was injured last year and couldn't stay in basketball shape ..... He may never be as great as he was but if he is healthy he will be a solid player and be critical to our success.


Meanwhile, the real problem is ginobili. Dude has no legs, can't shoot, has trouble creating separation, makes a lot of bad decisions and I only see it getting worse...... As much as I love pop I think he will probably stick with ginobili and give him minutes he doesn't deserve out of his love for ginobili.... Could be a major problem in the playoffs.

[AFMadison]

I'm curious to know if player fans on this site really want to see certain players fail because of their own fixation on someone else. I have a favorite player, but I would never choose that players success over the team. I feel like some posters would choose an outing in the playoffs (if that would mean Parker would play terrible), over the Spurs winning a championship (by means of Parker winning another FMVP).

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm curious to know if player fans on this site really want to see certain players fail because of their own fixation on someone else. I have a favorite player, but I would never choose that players success over the team. I feel like some posters would choose an outing in the playoffs (if that would mean Parker would play terrible), over the Spurs winning a championship (by means of Parker winning another FMVP).
That's the sad truth. They're only 0.05% of ST, but unfortunately they spam the board with their BS all they want. Don't mind them tbh

[JuneJive]

We need him healthy. First and foremost.

Outside of that it's up to him how he will adapt to the inevitable loss of speed, so crucial so far in his career.

Him "reinventing" himself will determine his post-prime career.

[AFMadison]

That's the sad truth. They're only 0.05% of ST, but unfortunately they spam the board with their BS all they want. Don't mind them tbh
It would be nice if everyone joined in on completely ignoring them. It would be kind of funny to see their mentality change after a few weeks of nobody responding.

[AFMadison]

We need him healthy. First and foremost.

Outside of that it's up to him how he will adapt to the inevitable loss of speed, so crucial so far in his career.

Him "reinventing" himself will determine his post-prime career.

I think polishing up his 3 point shot was a good start. I think he should work on his midrange. Pull pnr defenders away from Duncan/Aldridge.

[steeledl]

Manu vs Parker mentality is the problem.

I don't hate ginobili. He isn't my favorite player but if the dude had game I'd love it if he won the mvp and led us to a championship.... I'm just of the opinion that he doesn't have much left.

[FkLA]

I'm curious to know if player fans on this site really want to see certain players fail because of their own fixation on someone else. I have a favorite player, but I would never choose that players success over the team. I feel like some posters would choose an outing in the playoffs (if that would mean Parker would play terrible), over the Spurs winning a championship (by means of Parker winning another FMVP).

Or maybe we just like the Spurs so much that we don't want to see a repeat of last season, when Enrique dragged the team down the way he did. Y'all are the faggots that want to keep trodding his fat ass out there even if it means another 1st Rd exit. So ask yourself who is really the player fan?

[bic50]

That's the sad truth. They're only 0.05% of ST, but unfortunately they spam the board with their BS all they want. Don't mind them tbh
Stfu. You and a select few on this forum do the same crap with leonard.

[apalisoc_9]

Or maybe we just like the Spurs so much that we don't want to see a repeat of last season, when Enrique dragged the team down the way he did. Y'all are the faggots that want to keep trodding his fat ass out there even if it means another 1st Rd exit. So ask yourself who is really the player fan?

[bic50]

A healthy parker is what this team needs. He doesn't need to be the all star pg anymore with the addition of lma and kawhi likely getting more of the load offensively along with many on the team who can contribute as well. Hes still a major threat though that defenses will have to respect. Hopefully whatever hindered his performance last season was sorted out because we will need him.

[daledondale]

Everyone wants to shit on Parker after he was injured last year and couldn't stay in basketball shape ..... He may never be as great as he was but if he is healthy he will be a solid player and be critical to our success.


Meanwhile, the real problem is ginobili. Dude has no legs, can't shoot, has trouble creating separation, makes a lot of bad decisions and I only see it getting worse...... As much as I love pop I think he will probably stick with ginobili and give him minutes he doesn't deserve out of his love for ginobili.... Could be a major problem in the playoffs.
Really man?..so much users here said the same after 2012-2013, and his 2013-2014 playoffs and finals were big. And we aren't talking like it's something happened like 7 years ago. Show some respect and don't be a blind hater.:flag:

[apalisoc_9]

Really man?..so much users here said the same after 2012-2013, and his 2013-2014 playoffs and finals were big. And we aren't talking like it's something happened like 7 years ago. Show some respect and don't be a blind hater.:flag:

That guy constantly bashes Manu to prop up Parker just sayin..

[daledondale]

That guy constantly bashes Manu to prop up Parker just sayin..
http://collegetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/26683-scorpio-simpsons-gif-cdza.gif
I know what are you trying to do :lol

[Seventyniner]

I think Pop just didn't have a backup plan when Parker couldn't handle being the engine of the team last year due to injuries. Other than Manu, there were really no "engine" players to be had. For everyone calling Parker a cancer and a chucker, fuck you. Pop is in charge of the team, and if Parker was playing contrary to Pop's wishes, he would have benched Parker in an instant. Unfortunately Joseph wasn't ready to lead the team and Mills isn't really a PG anyway.

This year should see a drop in usage for Parker and an increase in efficiency, assuming he can stay healthy. In the starting lineup, Parker should be about the #3 option behind Aldridge and Leonard. If Parker can develop a respectable spot-up 3 point shot, the Spurs will be nigh unstoppable.

[steeledl]

That guy constantly bashes Manu to prop up Parker just sayin..

Nope. Dont mistake me commenting on my concerns for manu as me bashing him. Now do I think Parker has is a better player ? I do .... Or at least he has been for the past. Parker was injured last year so it's hard to say how much of his game suffered because of age and how much of it was injury . We will see this year... Parker may be just as done as ginobili and if he is ill say it.

[TheDoctor]

To Enrique's defense, he looked a lot les fatty in those vids with the tiger and the press conference photos afterwards.

Maybe he stopped eating less brioche and more wholemeal bread in his french toasts.

[AFMadison]

Or maybe we just like the Spurs so much that we don't want to see a repeat of last season, when Enrique dragged the team down the way he did. Y'all are the faggots that want to keep trodding his fat ass out there even if it means another 1st Rd exit. So ask yourself who is really the player fan?

I don't want a repeat of last season. I also think Pop is the best at making that call. I remember other key players falling off the map, only to return with a greater impact. You assume a little too much. Do you truly believe Parker is the sole reason the Spurs exited the first round last year? If so bud I'm gonna have to ask you and your followers to walk hand in hand into extinction. In all seriousness though lets hope they play with a little fire under their ass this year.

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't want a repeat of last season. I also think Pop is the best at making that call. I remember other key players falling off the map, only to return with a greater impact. You assume a little too much. Do you truly believe Parker is the sole reason the Spurs exited the first round last year? If so bud I'm gonna have to ask you and your followers to walk hand in hand into extinction. In all seriousness though lets hope they play with a little fire under their ass this year.
Great post

[AFMadison]

That guy constantly bashes Manu to prop up Parker just sayin..
http://media.giphy.com/media/zGgd5ZQWB13La/giphy.gif

[MI21]

I think he will be good this season. I expect a whole heap less minutes and averages of around 13/5 on 45-48% with passable defense.