Jimmer Fredette to the Spurs (Update: Mostly Non-Guaranteed Training Camp Deal)

[Mugen]

http://www.heraldextra.com/sports/basketball/professional/report-former-byu-basketball-superstar-jimmer-fredette-might-be-joining/article_cdffb372-e769-5f92-8187-08c4636e3b79.html


"NBAWire.com has learned Jimmer is in San Antonio today, flew in last night and all indications are the 2011 National Player of the Year, former #BYU star could sign a contract with the #Spurs as early as today," Kirkland wrote in the article.

[NASpurs]

We staaaaaaaacked.

[NASpurs]

Who would you rather have, Eddie or Jimmer?

[lakerhaterade]

No fucking way

[Mugen]

http://i.imgur.com/k6Nb0.gif

[Mugen]

Who would you rather have, Eddie or Jimmer?

Eddie tbh.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:lol nba

[gambit1990]

http://i.imgur.com/k6Nb0.gif

[TheGreatYacht]

Jimmer actually killed Kawhi in the matchup


http://youtu.be/DlDPwcwLu2o

[benefactor]

:cry nbawire :cry
:cry VBM pls :cry

[timtonymanu]

Why? The Spurs are going to have 4 PGs?

[z0sa]

Obligatory NBA=f:lolcked comment

[PrimeMinister]

Why? The Spurs are going to have 4 PGs?

Implying Jimmer is anything but a shooting guard

[tatteredprince]

my god, the Spurs badly want that sixth title!!!!!

[ceperez]

yikes.... mills and jimmer in the back court? a 10 point lead by an opponent in the last minute isn't a guarantee!

[tatteredprince]

:bobo

[Mugen]

Jimmer is pretty much a homeless man's Patty Mills tbh.

RC probably thinks he can't do any wrong this summer. Might as well turn Jimmer into a rotation player :lol

[tatteredprince]

the NBA enters apocalypse,

we are BEYOND stacked, tbh

Go Spurs go!!!!!!

[tatteredprince]

demolishing the NBA this year

can we get 70 wins??????

[ceperez]

demolishing the NBA this year

can we get 70 wins??????

70 wins, I would be dissappointed if Spurs don't make 70pts per half.

[tatteredprince]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6mqFMdhDe4

[tatteredprince]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6mqFMdhDe4

[NASpurs]

Has this been posted anywhere? I'll just stick this here since it's minor news.

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[benefactor]

You need to take your meds breh. That manic state is no fun for anyone.

[tatteredprince]

shit, this human has unbelievable range, lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZkrYKITL-o

[tatteredprince]

70 wins, I would be dissappointed if Spurs don't make 70pts per half.


:bobo

[jeebus]

Post more relevant college basketball links. Might as well sign Adam Morrison since he was good in college. Dumbasses.

[steeledl]

Yes pleasseeeee

[timtonymanu]

http://i.imgur.com/k6Nb0.gif

:lol first thing to cross my mind when I saw this thread

[T_L_P]

Please no!

[tatteredprince]

Gary Neal on steroids, imo

[tatteredprince]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_FdUdj_zKk

[PrimeMinister]

Gary Neal on steroids, imo

Gary has at least shown up in the NBA. If there wasn't an already emerging off guard coming up, I'd be all for this move. Jimmer just didn't really fit with our current bench guys. Who do we play him with? Jimmer/Manu? Good offense, we're gonna get sliced apart though by anyone with a playmaker on the bench.

[random21]

Patty and Jimmer combo would chuck us to a 20 pt lead or 20 pt deficit...

[FkLA]

:cry nbawire :cry
:cry VBM (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16355) pls :cry

You think its that nbawire? I know the owners were Utah based and Jimmer is from BYU.

[tatteredprince]

David West can lead that third team:

Marjanovic at center
David West at power forward
Kyle Anderson at small forward
McCallum and Fredette at guards

not bad for a third unit, huh

[PrimeMinister]

Patty and Jimmer combo would chuck us to a 20 pt lead or 20 pt deficit...

We would have to hit 3 after 3 to compensate for the perpetual revolving door defensively on the perimeter

[tatteredprince]

David West can lead that third team:

Marjanovic at center
David West at power forward
Kyle Anderson at small forward
McCallum and Fredette at guards

not bad for a third unit, huh


i forgot Simmons, sorry

[NASpurs]

People were threatening to commit suicide last year watching Beli's traffic cone defense, imagine if the Spurs get Jimmer. :lol

[tatteredprince]

guys, lighten up a bit will yah

Jimmy will play on the third unit, haha

garbage time, but we shall enjoy,

(hell yeah, he could the 3 point shooting contest)

[ceperez]

Patty and Jimmer combo would chuck us to a 20 pt lead or 20 pt deficit...

That's why you bring both in only when team is behind by a lot and time is running out. Like 20 pts behind with 2 minutes to go. Who cares if you lose by 40, but there's a chance to win.

[tatteredprince]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL98mizDAGk

[benefactor]

You think its that nbawire? I know the owners were Utah based and Jimmer is from BYU.
I went to the site. It's just a news site now. Looks like someone bought the old domain from syxx.

[ceperez]

We would have to hit 3 after 3 to compensate for the perpetual revolving door defensively on the perimeter

You don't get it do you? Have you ever seen the game against Dallas where Spurs inserted Steve Kerr who never played a minute the entire season? Same reason why you have Fredette, for the games that are almost out of reach.

[tatteredprince]

here is a pro game:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5my03X819K4

[PrimeMinister]

Again, I would be all for it if Simmons hadn't emerged like he has. Just gonna take minutes from him. I want to see this guy adjust to the NBA before Manu retires.

[tatteredprince]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTc22SZs2Yw

[FkLA]

I went to the site. It's just a news site now. Looks like someone bought the old domain from syxx.

Aww you're right. Definitely someone else.

[tatteredprince]

redette's skill level is incredibly high, as evidenced not only by his production, but also the way he gets baskets.

He creates a huge chunk of his offense (68% according to Synergy Sports Technology) on his own, be it in isolation situations, in transition or in pick-and-roll sets—in that order. He's an excellent ball handler who is capable of dribbling with either hand and is very adept at splitting screens. And he's as shifty as they come, given his ability to play at different speeds.

Fredette shows excellent quickness, outstanding footwork and incredible creativity with the ball in his hands. He creates space to operate about as well as any guard in college basketball not namedKemba Walker (http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kemba-Walker-5152/), and he is a more complete scorer than Walker in terms of his offensive polish.

His best asset is clearly his shooting ability, which borders on outrageous when it comes to the difficulty of shots he is capable of making.

Fredette's range extends well beyond the NBA 3-point line. Unlike most shooters, however, he's just as effective making off-the-dribble jumpers as he is with his feet set. He elevates high off the ground, squaring his shoulders instantaneously and balancing himself perfectly in mid-air. He's capable of pulling up on a dime from unbelievable distances with his lightning quick release.

From DraftExpress.comhttp://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3gdsM9SOK
http://www.draftexpress.com

[PrimeMinister]

Situationally he would be fine, absolutely. With the bench we currently have and the prospects we are grooming to come up, I just don't see the fit though. We've already got a microwave 2 guard in a point guards body

[BillMc]

I thought he was a bust? Must look up stats....

[spurraider21]

he woulda been a good fallback option if we had to trade Patty... but i dont see a point now

[tatteredprince]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0awIKsjyU4

[PrimeMinister]

he woulda been a good fallback option if we had to trade Patty... but i dont see a point now

Thank you. Perez makes the steve Kerr comparison but we already have our ballsy 3 shooter. Patty has shown he can hit 3s on the big stage.

[tatteredprince]

who knows he might be Chip Engelland's assistant someday.....a shooting coach in the making

[spurraider21]

JJ Redick minus defense

[tatteredprince]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6LTguJLFVo

[Mugen]

he woulda been a good fallback option if we had to trade Patty... but i dont see a point now

The Spurs aren't trading Patty.

[BillMc]

He shot .188 from behind the arc last season, though at least he's a career .381

[FkLA]

Thank you. Perez makes the steve Kerr comparison but we already have our ballsy 3 shooter. Patty has shown he can hit 3s on the big stage.

You can never have too many players to bail out Enrique. That same year Kerr bailed him out Speedy also had to bail him out in the Finals.

[philldafunk]

I don't think this kid ever got a fair shot. I'd hate to see him relegated to garbage time....

[spurraider21]

The Spurs aren't trading Patty.
i know... which is why i said "i dont see a point now"

[ChumpDumper]

He shot .188 from behind the arc last season, though at least he's a career .381Buy low.

[PrimeMinister]

You can never have too many players to bail out Enrique. That same year Kerr bailed him out Speedy also had to bail him out in the Finals.

If/When Parker's play in this new offense proves itself to be an issue, there will be better options in the buy out market than Jimmer. He doesn't even really serve much back up as a playmaker anyway. And as I've alluded to, Patty makes Jimmer's skillset look average and redundant.

[szkorhetz]

i know... which is why i said "i dont see a point now"
We still lack a good, defensive big, TBH.

[TheGreatYacht]

ST :lol

"Who cares if Matty is the 15th guy and had a bad shooting year, corporate knowledge :cry "

"But is Jimmer good enough to be the 15th guy? I don't know, he's only shown he can shoot the ball and is fairly young... Don't like the move tbh tbh"

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Why? The Spurs are going to have 4 PGs?

I don't mind. Whatever it takes for Parker to play less minutes in the regular season so he can be fresh for the playoffs and not hobbling around on a bad hamstring and ankle as he has the past 3 years.

[Beaverfuzz]

Fuck Ferdette, terrible.

[silverblackfan]

Hardly knew anything about him until this thread. He has range. Seems redundant, but still a very skilled shooter. Spurs just seem to be hording good talent at this point. :lol

[Beaverfuzz]

Why? The Spurs are going to have 4 PGs?

Ferdette excepted because he sucks, I'm betting because Manu's minutes are going to be more limited as a whole.

[loveforthegame]

I like it. Another guy who didn't get a fair shake in Sacramento and wasn't able to find time after that.

He could bounce back in SA I believe.

Damn. The Spurs are ridiculous this summer. :tu

[tatteredprince]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSE6MxhHKiU

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSE6MxhHKiU
:lol not exactly a danny green highlight video

[ceperez]

he's #15 in the roster. has a great work ethic and high basketball IQ.

Spurs are so stacked, I don't know how he'll even get minutes playing. He's going to get the minimum because it appears nobody else is interested in his services.

BTW... is he elligible to play in the d-league?

[silverblackfan]

He may be training camp fodder and spend some time in Austin learning the system. The D-League limit just increased.

[Fireball]

I do not like that the Spurs fill all 15 roster spots, but I have nothing against Jimmer as an end of bench guy ... if he finds his 3 point stroke ... whew

[lilbthebasedgod]

All indications are that this guy really isn't that good. He has bad stats on offense and defense and I really haven't seen him do anything impressive outside of college. Its cool I guess, but like I don't see how having a really really below average player (statistically) as our 15th makes us stacked.

[FkLA]

If/When Parker's play in this new offense proves itself to be an issue, there will be better options in the buy out market than Jimmer. He doesn't even really serve much back up as a playmaker anyway. And as I've alluded to, Patty makes Jimmer's skillset look average and redundant.

The Spurs never have full confidence in buyouts that join midseason. Even Diaw wasn't fully integrated until the following season.


I don't mind. Whatever it takes for Parker to play less minutes in the regular season so he can be fresh for the playoffs and not hobbling around on a bad hamstring and ankle as he has the past 3 years.

Don't forget his two torn achilles, amputated left pinky toe, and amputated right big toe tbh.

[FkLA]

All indications are that this guy really isn't that good. He has bad stats on offense and defense and I really haven't seen him do anything impressive outside of college. Its cool I guess, but like I don't see how having a really really below average player (statistically) as our 15th makes us stacked.

Once upon a time MVPaddy was nothing more than the GOAT towel waver.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

All indications are that this guy really isn't that good. He has bad stats on offense and defense and I really haven't seen him do anything impressive outside of college. Its cool I guess, but like I don't see how having a really really below average player (statistically) as our 15th makes us stacked.

Honestly, he might be Mills part 2. Spurs looking to keep Manu and Parker's minutes down. Getting a guy like Jimmer will do just that. Guy is an excellent shooter. With the Spurs spacing, he should fit in. Your not going to get much better for the #15 spot in all honesty.

[Hoops Czar]

Probably a non-guaranteed contract. His defense is beyond atrocious, he makes Marco Belinelli look like Kawhi Leonard on defense..

[cd98]

Sure, he's not that good as a startig point guard for Sacramento or even NO. But in the Spurs system that favors shooters, even ones with bad defense, he can be a weapon. Sure you need defense to win, but the some nights the Spurs will score so much their defense won't matter as much. And he's not a bad creator either, I've seen him play some pretty good minutes at PG and not be overwhelmed. All and all, I think he's good value at the 15th spot and you can always cut him if something better comes along. I don't think he'll disappoint in S.A. if they sign him.

[Bruno]

Meh signing (provided it's true and it's a guaranteed contract).

Spurs needed a vet shooting wing, Fredette is that but he is really short and not that good. I guess Spurs couldn't get better offering a min contract and without guaranteeing some playing time.

And for people saying he is a 15th player, it's more complicate than that. Anderson and Simmons have shown nothing at a level above D-League and summer league. Both might not turn into NBA caliber players. In that case, Fredette will be the 10th player on Spurs roster chart.

[TheGreatYacht]

Once upon a time MVPaddy was nothing more than the GOAT towel waver.
This dude here might watch transgender porn in his free time, and he might be Italian.. But for once he posted something that's true.. He's right

[cd98]

Also, remember that Patty Mills isn't playing for his national team because of an injury. Maybe the Spurs are concerned if he'll be ready to go. If his shoulder is holding up his shooting, it may be wise to have Fredette as a fall-back option.

[ceperez]

Honestly, he might be Mills part 2. Spurs looking to keep Manu and Parker's minutes down. Getting a guy like Jimmer will do just that. Guy is an excellent shooter. With the Spurs spacing, he should fit in. Your not going to get much better for the #15 spot in all honesty.

#15 doesn't even suit up for a majority of games. However, I am not going to be surprise to see Pop will sit Tim and Manny for half the games in the regular season.

So plenty of opportunities for bench players to at least dress for the game. Besides, a couple of Spurs rookies will be spending time also in D-league.

[cd98]

Meh signing (provided it's true and it's a guaranteed contract).

Spurs needed a vet shooting wing, Fredette is that but he is really short and not that good. I guess Spurs couldn't get better offering a min contract and without guaranteeing some playing time.

And for people saying he is a 15th player, it's more complicate than that. Anderson and Simmons have shown nothing at a level above D-League and summer league. Both might not turn into NBA caliber players. In that case, Fredette will be the 10th player on Spurs roster chart.

That's true, but the Spurs think outside the box and are gambling that one of Anderson or Simmons will work out sufficiently. They can always cut anyone at the end of the bench if a better player gets bought out. It will cost $$$, but I think they would pay the $$$.

[ElNono]

The real question is when are we getting a Jimmer Jam?

http://i57.tinypic.com/s4z1jq.jpg

[Hoops Czar]

Also, remember that Patty Mills isn't playing for his national team because of an injury. Maybe the Spurs are concerned if he'll be ready to go. If his shoulder is holding up his shooting, it may be wise to have Fredette as a fall-back option.

If this is even the least bit true, they have McCallum to take Patty's place. Jimmer's basically the 5th string pg or the 4th string shooting guard, depending on where you slot Patty and Manu. He's redundant in every way imaginable.

[cd98]

If this is even the least bit true, they have McCallum to take Patty's place. Jimmer's basically the 5th string pg or the 4th string shooting guard, depending on where you slot Patty and Manu. He's redundant in every way imaginable.

No. It's well known that McCallum's strength is driving, not shooting threes.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Again, I would be all for it if Simmons hadn't emerged like he has. Just gonna take minutes from him. I want to see this guy adjust to the NBA before Manu retires.

Simmons is not a lock from 3. He's pretty mediocre. Three point daggers are something we lost with Belinelli.

[ceperez]

Spurs going to invent a new kind of lineup:

Parker - 6'2"
Mills - 6'0"
Fredette - 6'2
McCallum - 6'3"
Marjaonovic - 7'3"

This kind of lineup was experimented by the Reno Long Horns in the D-league. Basically, the idea is that everyone keeps chucking 3 point shots with one big dude manning the paint to prevent layups. They call it 'organized chaos' read: http://www.rgj.com/story/sports/2014/11/13/murray-new-bighorns-coach-brings-organized-chaos-nba-d-league/18973411/

[PrimeMinister]

Simmons is not a lock from 3. He's pretty mediocre. Three point daggers are something we lost with Belinelli.

Floor spacing is fine at the moment. If anything the bench units need slashing and wing defense

[BatManu20]

Jimmer is one of my all time favorite college players. Dude had "in the gym" range. But he's a 6'2 SG who's too unathleric to play D. I mean, as a 15th man it's not terrible, but seems a bit redundant with Patty already on the team and the trade from McCallum. Would rather see if Eddie can do anything. At least he's a 6'7 wing. Would rather have the depth there, tbh. Maybe Jimmer is just training camp fodder (if he does indeed sign with us, of course).

[objective]

Don't care for the possible move. Simmons is a better NBA prospect without a real game under his belt, and it's not close, jimmer would just be a guy people would resent for blocking minutes for simmons, McCollum, Anderson, etc.

I don't think he's good enough to be 1-13 active on this roster, but his name & rep would put him there.

[cd98]

Floor spacing is fine at the moment. If anything the bench units need slashing and wing defense

I think that's what they get from Manu, Simmons, and Ray. Jimmer is more that just a shooter. He can drive and kick. He's a good ball handler. His problems are on defense.

[PrimeMinister]

I think that's what they get from Manu, Simmons, and Ray. Jimmer is more that just a shooter. He can drive and kick. He's a good ball handler. His problems are on defense.

Exactly what I'm saying. Jimmer will take minutes from guys like ray and simmons who can drive to the hole and finish.

[Kineto]

6 fouls to give when it's hack-a-Jordan time...

[littlecoyotecoin]

Floor spacing is fine at the moment. If anything the bench units need slashing and wing defense

I think they're confident in Simmons for some of that. Jimmer is a little small and redundant to Patty, I agree. It does make me wonder about the Patty injury story.

Eddie's stroke is so smooth that he was a little intriguing. And, sadly, he's better defensively than Jimmer, as bad as Eddie's defense seems. He does have some length, and more athletic ability, blocked a shot and got after it a little bit in that last SL game.

[SPURt]

Spurs going to invent a new kind of lineup:

Parker - 6'2"
Mills - 6'0"
Fredette - 6'2
McCallum - 6'3"
Marjaonovic - 7'3"

This kind of lineup was experimented by the Reno Long Horns in the D-league. Basically, the idea is that everyone keeps chucking 3 point shots with one big dude manning the paint to prevent layups. They call it 'organized chaos' read: http://www.rgj.com/story/sports/2014/11/13/murray-new-bighorns-coach-brings-organized-chaos-nba-d-league/18973411/
The Spurs would officially become the manifestation of the Kings wet dream

[ceperez]

Folks! Stop thinking of Jimmer playing in a traditional lineup. The only time I see him ever playing for the Spurs is if the team needs to jack up several 3's in a hurry. Kind of like what the Cavs where doing in the final game of the championship. That's with J.R. Smith chucking a 3 point shot at every opportunity.

[SPURt]

If anyone can get talent out of him the Spurs can, that said I don't want him ahead of Simmons as far as first chance to make an impact, or KA for that matter.

I'm surprised I haven't seen more Jimmer>>>>>>>8======o Parker posts

[BatManu20]

I'll always remember his last college 3-pointer, tbh. Good shit.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjc8z2IEm-k

[AFBlue]

Spurs lost a lights out shooter in Beli. Jimmer replaces that skill set at half the price. He's smart enough to operate in the flow of the offense and will probably get more open looks in one year than he has in his entire career.

[ceperez]

I think they're confident in Simmons for some of that. Jimmer is a little small and redundant to Patty, I agree. It does make me wonder about the Patty injury story.

Eddie's stroke is so smooth that he was a little intriguing. And, sadly, he's better defensively than Jimmer, as bad as Eddie's defense seems. He does have some length, and more athletic ability, blocked a shot and got after it a little bit in that last SL game.

Wow... finally, somebody vouches for Eddie's other skill set.

I guess when people start comparing players with the other alternatives, they start getting practical.

I agree, I would get Eddie over Fredette.

I would play Simmons over Richard Jefferson. Anyone want RJ over Simmons, please raise your hand? Simmons hasn't played a game in the NBA, RJ is a former all-star. Who wants to take RJ over Simmons?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Meh signing (provided it's true and it's a guaranteed contract).

Spurs needed a vet shooting wing, Fredette is that but he is really short and not that good. I guess Spurs couldn't get better offering a min contract and without guaranteeing some playing time.

And for people saying he is a 15th player, it's more complicate than that. Anderson and Simmons have shown nothing at a level above D-League and summer league. Both might not turn into NBA caliber players. In that case, Fredette will be the 10th player on Spurs roster chart.

Well then its a good thing that we have one of the best player development programs in sports don't you think?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Exactly what I'm saying. Jimmer will take minutes from guys like ray and simmons who can drive to the hole and finish.

No he won't. Even heard of insurance policy players. If Spurs did sign Jimmer, I am sure he would consent to go to the Toros to learn the Spurs system.

After seeing the contracts Beli, Baynes and Joseph were just handed out, you can bet players like Jimmer see going to the Spurs as an opportunity to improve their game and get a contract down the road. Mills was just a towel waver the first two years on the team and developed into an integral part of the Spurs the past two years.

Spurs staff does wonders in developing players with potential. Jimmer does, at least offensively.

[itzsoweezee]

Dude is a complete scrub. Worse than de Colo. I hope kawhi shits on him in practice.

[cd98]

Exactly what I'm saying. Jimmer will take minutes from guys like ray and simmons who can drive to the hole and finish.

He may be playing with those guys to create space.

[ceperez]

No he won't. Even heard of insurance policy players. If Spurs did sign Jimmer, I am sure he would consent to go to the Toros to learn the Spurs system.

After seeing the contracts Beli, Baynes and Joseph were just handed out, you can bet players like Jimmer see going to the Spurs as an opportunity to improve their game and get a contract down the road. Mills was just a towel waver the first two years on the team and developed into an integral part of the Spurs the past two years.

Spurs staff does wonders in developing players with potential. Jimmer does, at least offensively.

Jimmer is almost about to be kicked out of the NBA. He's a free agent with nobody showing any interest. His stats look like he's a complete bust. The guy is desperate and will sign with anybody!

I like the experiment... hey... it's #15 .... why not throw the dice on this one?

[BatManu20]

Jimmer's been helping Chauncey Billups' with his bball vids this summer.

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[BatManu20]

Dude is a complete scrub. Worse than de Colo. I hope kawhi shits on him in practice.

Why would he be guarding Kawhi in practice? :lol

[BatManu20]

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[littlecoyotecoin]

Wow... finally, somebody vouches for Eddie's other skill set.

I guess when people start comparing players with the other alternatives, they start getting practical.

I agree, I would get Eddie over Fredette.

I would play Simmons over Richard Jefferson. Anyone want RJ over Simmons, please raise your hand? Simmons hasn't played a game in the NBA, RJ is a former all-star. Who wants to take RJ over Simmons?

heh

Slow your roll. Just vs Jimmer!

[ceperez]

Why would he be guarding Kawhi in practice? :lol

Yeah... that really didn't make any sense. Kind of like saying ... 'hope M.J. shits on Steve Kerr in practice' ?????!!!!!

[NASpurs]

623907042214809600

What's the max number of players the Spurs can take into camp? I hope Eddie gets a call up for camp.

[jhfenton]

Meh. Count me in the "he's redundant with Patty Mills" camp. I'm not sure we need another under-sized shooting guard.

[SPURt]

http://moargeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/its-happening.gif
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[SpursPreacher]

What's the max number of players the Spurs can take into camp? I hope Eddie gets a call up for camp.

I believe its around 18-19 or so ?

[SPURt]

Yeah... that really didn't make any sense. Kind of like saying ... 'hope M.J. shits on Steve Kerr in practice' ?????!!!!!
I think he was suggesting literally, like some sort of sexy hazing

[itzsoweezee]

Why would he be guarding Kawhi in practice? :lol

I didn't say he would. I said I hope kawhi shits on jimmer. KL does not like that overrated scrub from his college days.

[ceperez]

623907042214809600

Jimmer hasn't *unconfirmed* the rumors on twitter... it must be real then!!!

[101A]

Designated FT shooter off the bench to ice games is a luxury the Spurs haven't had in a while.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Jimmer is almost about to be kicked out of the NBA. He's a free agent with nobody showing any interest. His stats look like he's a complete bust. The guy is desperate and will sign with anybody!

I like the experiment... hey... it's #15 .... why not throw the dice on this one?

Same with Sjax, Mills, Green and Baynes etc. Its amazing what working with the best Basketball development coaching staff will do for a player.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Designated FT shooter off the bench to ice games is a luxury the Spurs haven't had in a while.

Wish they had him for the Detroit game last year. 7 or 9 FTs missed down the stretch. That one still stings.

[cd98]

I didn't say he would. I said I hope kawhi shits on jimmer. KL does not like that overrated scrub from his college days.

Wrong. They are actually friends. Jimmer invited Kawhi to play in his PRE-NBA game the summer they were drafted. And Kawhi played in it. There's no bad blood there.

[TheGreatYacht]

Eddie or Jimmer :tu doesn't matter to me who gets the last spot, we just need a sharpshooter.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Why would he be guarding Kawhi in practice? :lol

I hope it's a real game, as practices are closed to the public and I haven't seen anything like that since two girls one cup.

[ceperez]

Ray McCallum is a free-agent next year. Spurs need a backup PG for 2016-2017.... sign Jimmer up for 2 years!!

[TheGreatYacht]

Same with Sjax, Mills, Green and Baynes etc. Its amazing what working with the best Basketball development coaching staff will do for a player.
Charlotte Diaw

[ceperez]

Charlotte Diaw

I don't think Spurs did anything to develop Diaw's game, he just needed to play with smarter players.

[NASpurs]

He's already 26? Geez, I always assumed he was closer to Kawhi's age.

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't think Spurs did anything to develop Diaw's game, he just needed to play with smarter players.
Made him lose weight and helped him lose his timidness on offense he used to have

[NASpurs]

I mean it can't hurt when Manu misses his usual 1/3 of the season and Simmons/Anderson have to take over Manu's spot.

[ceperez]

He's already 26? Geez, I always assumed he was closer to Kawhi's age.

Wow... looking like a legitmate bust! Perfect Spur, Spurs need a new reclamation project!!

[TheGreatYacht]

He's already 26? Geez, I always assumed he was closer to Kawhi's age.
Butler is 25 going on 26 soon, and Parsons is 26.. Kawhi was pretty young compared to others in his draft class

[Dex]

:lol People on SpursTalk expecting the 14th/15th man to be an excellent shooter, athletic, AND a great defender all while playing of the minimum.

PATFO is good, but they aren't THAT good.

I agree, this seems like a move to replace Beli's shootings. Simmons and Jimmer will likely battle for that last wing spot in the rotation. I'd have to give the advantage to Simmons at the moment, but can't say I've seen Jimmer much outside of the highlights shown here which show he obviously has range.

[cd98]

He's already 26? Geez, I always assumed he was closer to Kawhi's age.

Jonathan Simmons is 25 and will turn 26 before the season starts.

[SpursFan86]

I also lean towards Eddie over Jimmer. At least Eddie has decent size/athleticism, and he's still a lights out shooter.

Don't really care that much either way. Our main rotation is already set providing at least one of KA/Simmons proves they're ready to be a rotation player this year.

[Vic Petro]

:pop: But is he over himself?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Spurs lost a lights out shooter in Beli. Jimmer replaces that skill set at half the price. He's smart enough to operate in the flow of the offense and will probably get more open looks in one year than he has in his entire career.

[cd98]

:lol People on SpursTalk expecting the 14th/15th man to be an excellent shooter, athletic, AND a great defender all while playing of the minimum.

PATFO is good, but they aren't THAT good.

I agree, this seems like a move to replace Beli's shootings. Simmons and Jimmer will likely battle for that last wing spot in the rotation. I'd have to give the advantage to Simmons at the moment, but can't say I've seen Jimmer much outside of the highlights shown here which show he obviously has range.

It's funny. A slashing SF that can defend and shoot 3s costs around 90 million. How does Spur fan think we get that type of player (who isn't even on the market) at the league minimum? Our back up SF is hopefully Anderson, at least that is the Spurs' plan.

[NASpurs]

Jonathan Simmons is 25 and will turn 26 before the season starts.

Well I mentioned Kawhi because Jimmer and KL have a history together. I always assumed Jimmer was 23 or 24 for that reason. They just have a 2 year difference though in the grand scheme of things. I don't know why the gap seems larger. :lol

[Blizzardwizard]

200 pages incoming.

[NASpurs]

200 pages incoming.

Yeah they should just make this a "Live" thread. :lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Spurs are already set at SF. You have Kawhi, Simmons, Manu, and KA that all can play SF. Spurs need another shooter. McCallum isn't exactly known for his 3 pt shot, Jimmer is. I think the Spurs should sign Eddie to the D League and develop him another year like they did Simmons.

[Chinook]

he woulda been a good fallback option if we had to trade Patty... but i dont see a point now

Would love for Jimmer to be Eddie's size. I'd take him on a multiyear deal, but he probably doesn't do a whole lot for the team this season.

[cd98]

I also lean towards Eddie over Jimmer. At least Eddie has decent size/athleticism, and he's still a lights out shooter.

Don't really care that much either way. Our main rotation is already set providing at least one of KA/Simmons proves they're ready to be a rotation player this year.

People that see Jimmer as a one dimensional shooter have never really seen him play. He can handle, shoot, and create. He’s not Steve Nash, but he is a good drive and kick player. He also can run the pick and roll and is a deadly midrange shooter. He’s not just a camp out at the three point line and hope to get a pass. He’s better all around than Eddie.

[spurraider21]

so i guess he's the marco replacement. smaller, but hard to be a worse defender anyway. might actually be a good thing, sometimes pop threw marco at tall wing scorers, no way he'd actually try that with jimmer

[BatManu20]

I really want to retain Eddie though

[Chinook]

People that see Jimmer as a one dimensional shooter have never really seen him play.He can handle, shoot, and create.He’s not Steve Nash, but he is a good drive and kick player.He also can run the pick and roll and is a deadly midrange shooter.He’s not just a camp out at the three point line and hope to get a pass.He’s better all around than Eddie.

It's pretty easy seeing where Eddie could get minutes. A lot harder seeing where Jimmer could....

...unless Patty's injury is more serious than we're assuming :depressed

[ceperez]

People that see Jimmer as a one dimensional shooter have never really seen him play. He can handle, shoot, and create. He’s not Steve Nash, but he is a good drive and kick player. He also can run the pick and roll and is a deadly midrange shooter. He’s not just a camp out at the three point line and hope to get a pass. He’s better all around than Eddie.

But, but, but why is every other NBA team passing on this free agent? He can't possibly be any good, can he?

[DesignatedT]

jimmer is a good dude who works hard. I like the guy but don't see where he necessarily fits if true.

[cd98]

But, but, but why is every other NBA team passing on this free agent? He can't possibly be any good, can he?

Same thing was said about Patty Mills. And Jimmer is a better all-around offensive player.

[jhfenton]

What's the max number of players the Spurs can take into camp? I hope Eddie gets a call up for camp.

They can carry up to 20 in the offseason, which I believe includes camp.

[cd98]

Rate at which Spurs announce signings, this could take another three weeks.

[BatManu20]

If Jimmer does sign with us, I wonder if Sean will un-retire his #32 for him as well :lol

[ceperez]

jimmer is a good dude who works hard. I like the guy but don't see where he necessarily fits if true.

I don't see where he fits. I understand the Spurs need someone to replace Belinelli but Jimmer just seems to be too small.

[BatManu20]

Yea I hope if nothing else that we pay Eddie enough to keep him in Austin as a potential call-up in case someone gets hurt or needs rest, etc. Don't want another team taking him from us, tbh.

[BatManu20]

It's kind of gone unnoticed, but the best part about all the Spurs recent signings is that none of them were Carlos Boozer, tbh.

[TheGoldStandard]

Jimmer is interesting. Always reminded me of a Reddick kind of player. I think if he were to play here and Austin he could become a serious role player.

[NASpurs]

It's kind of gone unnoticed, but the best part about all the Spurs recent signings is that none of them were Carlos Boozer, tbh.

:lol it's been a great offseason

Now if David West hadn't come to the Spurs...

[still.focused]

A la Steve Kerr

[TheGoldStandard]

Maybe the Spurs will waive Williams and being in Eddie

[NASpurs]

They can carry up to 20 in the offseason, which I believe includes camp.

Thanks :tu, seems like Eddie should get a call up at the minimum.

[littlecoyotecoin]

People that see Jimmer as a one dimensional shooter have never really seen him play.He can handle, shoot, and create.He’s not Steve Nash, but he is a good drive and kick player.He also can run the pick and roll and is a deadly midrange shooter.He’s not just a camp out at the three point line and hope to get a pass.He’s better all around than Eddie.

The Spurs seem to agree. They could have had Eddie, but looked elsewhere.

[ceperez]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865630361/Upstill-What7s-next-for-Jimmer-Fredette.html?pg=all


According to ESPN's real plus-minus, Fredette is “the worst defender in the entire NBA, 5.6 points per 100 possessions worse than an average player. He can't stay in front of anyone, and has a tough time contesting shots.” Matty Robinson of SB Nation who covers the Pelicans said, “Due to a lack of quickness Jimmer wasn’t able to keep players out of the lane and thus opposing point guards ran circles around him. When he was moved off the ball, physicality became an issue as he was too small to stay with nearly every wing in the NBA.”

[Darkwaters]

If this is a make-good, non-guaranteed contract for training camp then I'm completely down with this. He'd be a great guy to bring in and kick the tires on. That being said, I'd give the same offer to Jerrell Eddie (and a few others) and see what floats to the top.

[timvp]

Jimmer is pretty damn terrible. Can't dribble. No playmaking skills. Bad defender. Bad shot selection. Struggles to get his shot off against any type of defense.

That said, if he's ever going to make it, it'd be with the Spurs since they'd be able to get him wide open shots and could help him hide on defense.

Honestly, unless Jarell Eddie has an attitude or work ethic problem, I would prefer him. He has better size and a faster release.

The only way Jimmer makes sense is if the Spurs are sold on Anderson and Simmons and they just want a hired gun with good work ethic and good character who wouldn't mind being a 15th man.

[BatManu20]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSE6MxhHKiU

[Spurs9]

Didn't know we still had roster spots tbh

[littlecoyotecoin]

Didn't know we still had roster spots tbh

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[BatManu20]

Yea like I said earlier, Jimmer's defense is just awful. Probably worse than Belli's. But he's a pure shooter at the very least and at #15 at the end of the bench, it could be worse. Still prefer Eddie though, if we're going that route. He's much bigger, more athletic, and has a quicker release, as timvp stated. This really would be an interesting move. He's the type of high-character guy PATFO would love though.

[ceperez]

Jimmer is pretty damn terrible. Can't dribble. No playmaking skills. Bad defender. Bad shot selection. Struggles to get his shot off against any type of defense.

That said, if he's ever going to make it, it'd be with the Spurs since they'd be able to get him wide open shots and could help him hide on defense.

Honestly, unless Jarell Eddie has an attitude or work ethic problem, I would prefer him. He has better size and a faster release.

The only way Jimmer makes sense is if the Spurs are sold on Anderson and Simmons and they just want a hired gun with good work ethic and good character who wouldn't mind being a 15th man.

Hit the nail on the head again! Eddie has a work ethic problem. Jimmer has legendary work ethic and character. Spurs now have a lot of young players, Anderson (21), Leonard(24), McCallum(24), Simmons(25), Marjanovic (26), Mills (26) .... and Green (29) who still dresses like he's 21. Somebody needs to reign in these folks!

[BillMc]

Spurs cornering the market on shooting guards in point guard bodies.

[cd98]

Jimmer Scouting Report:

Summary
Jimmer Fredette is 25 year old 6’2″ combo guard with a 200lb frame and 6’5″ wingspan. Fredette last played for the Chicago Bulls. Jimmer is a great shooter. He is one of the few players capable of shooting off screens, spots-ups, & off the dribble. In addition, Fredette is a solid creator in pick & roll situations. He excels in the high Pick & Roll attacking the paint on sags and hitting the roll man. In addition he can make defenses pay for playing soft on such plays.
On his best day, Fredette is an average defender. He is okay working within a defined pick & roll coverage but struggles mightily in isolation situations. In addition, he is often late or in poor position to contest shooters. He needs to improve his motor and defensive fundamentals; stance, sliding, hand positioning, et al.
Though, Jimmer is still young and hasn’t even cracked 3000 minutes going into his fourth season. As such, he flashes his upside from time to time; raining transition 3s and dominating pick & roll play as a scorer and playmaker. If Fredette can negotiate his way to the right team while improving his defense, there is no doubt he can be a quality contributor on a good team; spacing the floor and bringing offense to a second unit. Its unlikely that Fredette commands more than a minimum contract in the market.

Strengths
=> Scoring Off-Screens – Jimmer runs off baseline screens, back screens, staggered doubles & flares to free himself for 3 point looks. Squares shoulders, good elevation.
=> Spotup Shooting – Fredette is deadly in catch and shoot situations. Excellent from the corners in hammer actions & motion. Deadly from wings/break via post pass.
=> Running the Offense – Executes triple zipper sets. Runs Horns 45 ‘Flex’ actions. Finds cutters & shooters.

Weaknesses
=> Lateral Quickness – Jimmer Struggles to stay in front of quicker offensive players. Needs to anticipate better. Does not play angles, opens up.
=> Closing Out Shooters - Cheats off his man and over commits; not good at stunting. Makes late rotations, lacks urgency. Needs to work on body control; stance & slides.
=> Unforced Errors – Attempts difficult one handed passes in transition. Picks up his dribble far from the basket. Drives into traps.

Upside
=> Transition Shooting – Excellent in open space. Will pull up without hesitation. Also good at spotting up if not the BH. The rest of his transition game needs work.
=> Pick & Rolls – Good passer. Makes pocket passes and capable of beating traps. Can run high & from the wing. Makes defense pay for sagging; early actions.

Prognosis
=> Great Shooter; spot-up, dribble
=> Unproven player; limited PT
=> Good passer/creator, PG skills
=> Mediocre defender, competes
=> Quality back-up on good team
=> Vet Min to Bi-anual exception $

[TheGreatYacht]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSE6MxhHKiU
WITH Green on him

[spursince#99]

Probably a non-guaranteed contract. His defense is beyond atrocious, he makes Marco Belinelli look like Kawhi Leonard on defense..



Just shut up at this point fwiw.

[BatManu20]

So final roster would be:

1. Tony
2. Danny
3. Kawhi
4. LMA
5. Timmy
6. Manu
7. Boris
8. D-West
9. Patty
10. McCallum
11. Boban
12. Simmons
13. Kyle
14. Bonner
15. Jimmer

[spursince#99]

Jimmer is pretty damn terrible. Can't dribble. No playmaking skills. Bad defender. Bad shot selection. Struggles to get his shot off against any type of defense.

That said, if he's ever going to make it, it'd be with the Spurs since they'd be able to get him wide open shots and could help him hide on defense.

Honestly, unless Jarell Eddie has an attitude or work ethic problem, I would prefer him. He has better size and a faster release.

The only way Jimmer makes sense is if the Spurs are sold on Anderson and Simmons and they just want a hired gun with good work ethic and good character who wouldn't mind being a 15th man.


No disrespect, but watch more film.

[spurraider21]

Need a 3 point shooting lineup with

Mills
Jimmer
Green
Diaw
Bonner

[cd98]

Jimmer is pretty damn terrible. Can't dribble. No playmaking skills. Bad defender. Bad shot selection. Struggles to get his shot off against any type of defense.

That said, if he's ever going to make it, it'd be with the Spurs since they'd be able to get him wide open shots and could help him hide on defense.

Honestly, unless Jarell Eddie has an attitude or work ethic problem, I would prefer him. He has better size and a faster release.

The only way Jimmer makes sense is if the Spurs are sold on Anderson and Simmons and they just want a hired gun with good work ethic and good character who wouldn't mind being a 15th man.

Disagree with some of this. His offense is pro worthy. He can handle the ball, he can get his shot off, and he can run the pick and roll. He can't defend. If he could defend, he's be worth way more than the minimum. Spurs system is perfect for him.

[BillMc]

Signing Jimmer as our 15th man means (sniff, sniff) the Jeff Ayres era is officially over. :depressed

[ceperez]

Need a 3 point shooting lineup with

Mills
Jimmer
Green
Diaw
Bonner

Absolutely need to match up with Warriors 3 point team:

Curry
Igoudala
Thompson
Barnes
Green

[spursince#99]

People that see Jimmer as a one dimensional shooter have never really seen him play.He can handle, shoot, and create.He’s not Steve Nash, but he is a good drive and kick player.He also can run the pick and roll and is a deadly midrange shooter.He’s not just a camp out at the three point line and hope to get a pass.He’s better all around than Eddie.


Honestly, fwiw.

[monkeypunk]

Signing Jimmer as our 15th man means (sniff, sniff) the Jeff Ayres era is officially over. :depressed

Those are tears of joy, BillMcRiga. Tears of joy...

[timvp]

No disrespect, but watch more film.

Of who?

[Johnny RIngo]

I understand the team needs an extra three point shooter but Jimmer? Ugh. Rather they keep that roster spot open instead of wasting it on this piece of trash.

[BillMc]

Those are tears of joy, BillMcRiga. Tears of joy...

:lol True, true.

[NASpurs]

How does Raven feel about Jimmer?

[look_at_g_shred]

Eddie > Jimmer

[wildcardX]

Signing Jimmer as our 15th man means (sniff, sniff) the Jeff Ayres era is officially over. :depressed

Bonner still finds a way to hang around.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/66/92/4d/66924d0fac9360e72917ea248f76403a.jpg

[buttsR4rebounding]

Who knows if he would even get a fully guaranteed contract. For that matter, I could see the Spurs waiving Ferdette, McCallum, Simmons, or Boban and eating the contract if the right opportunity came along. He may not be the best that might be available during the entire season, but he fills a need right now. Doesn't mean the Spurs are stuck with him the entire year. I think this year is one that they are going to eat a certain level of tax and not worry about it. You can't ask Tim to play for $5 million and turn around and say we can't lose $5 or 6 million because we became tax payers.

[monkeypunk]

It's kind of gone unnoticed, but the best part about all the Spurs recent signings is that none of them were Carlos Boozer, tbh.

:toast

[From Downtown]

Steve Kerr is a poor man's Jimmer Fredette tbh

[BillMc]

It's kind of gone unnoticed, but the best part about all the Spurs recent signings is that none of them were Carlos Boozer, tbh.

Amen, brother.

[spursince#99]

Of who?

Jimmer.

[FlAVaK]

2007–2009 Golden State Warriors
2009–2010 Toronto Raptors
2010–2012 New Orleans Hornets
2012–2013 Chicago Bulls
2013–2015 San Antonio Spurs
since 2015 Sacramento Kings

2011–2014 Sacramento Kings
2014 Chicago Bulls
since 2014 New Orleans Pelicans

So that would leave the Raptors & Warriors for Jimmer to copy Marco´s career stations in the NBA :lol

[Maddog]

Looking at the game film that's a pretty slow release.
I suspect it's a non or partial guaranteed contract for camp if true at all.

Might be fun to see a fast break with Jimmer, Kyle and Boban. Probably have to record it and play it back at 2-4X as I'm a busy man...

[BillMc]

So that would leave the Raptors & Warriors for Jimmer to copy Marco´s career stations in the NBA :lol

Hope he copies him with a ring while with us then! :lobt:

[Mikeanaro]

Bonner still finds a way to hang around.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/66/92/4d/66924d0fac9360e72917ea248f76403a.jpg

Ginger has brainwashed PATFO and will play ´till his 60s.

[BillMc]

Bonner still finds a way to hang around.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/66/92/4d/66924d0fac9360e72917ea248f76403a.jpg

Bonner is a survivor, give the Red Mamba credit.

[Kikoluna]

Nice, I always liked jimmer. Glad he's on board....now, if we can somehow stop this Anderson madness

[Nathan89]

Does Jimmer have a twin brother that did the athletic parts of the combine for him? Seems strange that he's recognized as a terrible athlete but performed well at the combine.

[silverblackfan]

Bonner still finds a way to hang around.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/66/92/4d/66924d0fac9360e72917ea248f76403a.jpg


It is uncanny that all those guys are gone this year, except Bonner. I wonder if Pop insisted on this group for the picture? Just because.

[Nathan89]

Jimmer is a strong guard so he could potentially play next to Ray easier than Patty.

[Brian Windhorst]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865630361/Upstill-What7s-next-for-Jimmer-Fredette.html?pg=all

The -5.6 number is from a year ago, when he played for Sac and then Chicago. Last year on the Pels he was a much more respectable -1.95, which was better than Ray McCallum and a certain other PG on the Spurs. His numbers sucked in Sac, but he got better when paired with better defenders like Holiday, Asik, and Davis.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

My main observation is that he appeas to have shorter arms than just about any pro basketball player I can remember seeing. What's his wingspan?

[beirmeistr]

Looking at the game film that's a pretty slow release.
I suspect it's a non or partial guaranteed contract for camp if true at all.

Might be fun to see a fast break with Jimmer, Kyle and Boban. Probably have to record it and play it back at 2-4X as I'm a busy man...might have to call it a slow break

[DesignatedT]

I honestly hope the Spurs just roll with the 14 players they have under contract. I don't want Eddie either. Simmons and Anderson should suffice as that 4th/5th wing and would be a pretty interesting and competitive battle between the two.

[Nathan89]

My main observation is that he appeas to have shorter arms than just about any pro basketball player I can remember seeing. What's his wingspan?

6'4.5

[timvp]

Disagree with some of this. His offense is pro worthy. He can handle the ball, he can get his shot off, and he can run the pick and roll. He can't defend. If he could defend, he's be worth way more than the minimum. Spurs system is perfect for him.

His jumper is hypothetically pro worthy, but he hasn't really proven that with his play.

His ball handling and running of an offense are poor. If judging him as a point guard he is extremely poor. And he struggles to get quality shots off; that's pretty much undeniable since it's the main reason he hadn't made it in the NBA. Teams could and would overlook his matador defense if he was the scoring demon he appeared to be coming into the league.

The reason the Spurs might gamble on Jimmer is the fact that players like him (Redick, Eddie House, Kerr, etc) sometimes take years to figure out how to get their shots off on the NBA level. Once they do, they can suddenly become useful. But the Spurs would be basing the decision on what they saw of him back in college, not his disaster of a pro career.

The aspect that gives me hope is that Jimmer is actually a pretty good athlete. Still, I'd hope for him signing a contract that isn't fully guaranteed.

[TheCerebral1]

Jimmer is completely terrible!

[TXstbobcat]

An unguaranteed contract to take a look at him at training camp just to see what he has to offer the Spurs wouldn't cost that much.

[SpursforSix]

The reason the Spurs might gamble on Jimmer is the fact that players like him (Redick, Eddie House, Kerr, etc) sometimes take years to figure out how to get their shots off on the NBA level. Once they do, they can suddenly become useful.

Based on what?

All three have been fairly consistent in FGA and % based on their amount of playing time since they came into the league.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I honestly hope the Spurs just roll with the 14 players they have under contract. I don't want Eddie either. Simmons and Anderson should suffice as that 4th/5th wing and would be a pretty interesting and competitive battle between the two.

Agreed, except neither of the shoot worth much a damn from 3.

[littlecoyotecoin]

6'4.5

But that's because he's 5'10" across the chest.

[tesseractive]

It's nice to have a shooting specialist at the end of the bench to be able to bring in when the moment calls for it. He's not the greatest, but for the minimum, it's not a terrible idea.

[ceperez]

Just ran the numbers comparing him with J.J. Redick, standing reach is 1 inch less but he has a wider wingspan. Everything else looks comparable. If Redick can be such a deadly problem for the Spurs, I think Jimmer could be similarly serviceable.

Spurs should absolutely sign him.

With the right kind of screens, Jimmer can be equally deadly in offense.

Like I said early, McCallum is on his final year. Spurs need a backup PG, Jimmer is a good insurance policy.

[cd98]

His jumper is hypothetically pro worthy, but he hasn't really proven that with his play.

His ball handling and running of an offense are poor. If judging him as a point guard he is extremely poor. And he struggles to get quality shots off; that's pretty much undeniable since it's the main reason he hadn't made it in the NBA. Teams could and would overlook his matador defense if he was the scoring demon he appeared to be coming into the league.

The reason the Spurs might gamble on Jimmer is the fact that players like him (Redick, Eddie House, Kerr, etc) sometimes take years to figure out how to get their shots off on the NBA level. Once they do, they can suddenly become useful. But the Spurs would be basing the decision on what they saw of him back in college, not his disaster of a pro career.

The aspect that gives me hope is that Jimmer is actually a pretty good athlete. Still, I'd hope for him signing a contract that isn't fully guaranteed.

Last year, he shot the 3 horribly for some reason. But year 1 h shot 36%, year 2 41%, year 3 47% (including 49%that year with the Kings. He can shoot and he can get his shot off. He can't defend. He can dribble, play the pick and roll, and drive and kick, but can't really create a la Steve Nash. No doubt he is a limited player, but if the Spurs can hide his D and get him good looks, I agree he has his best shot at saving his career. Don't forget he's played almost his entire career with Tyreke Evans...he just hasn't been used correctly. That said, he probably gets a non-guaranteed contract and a shot at training camp to prove he can be a shooter and play some kind of point guard/shooting guard for the Spurs. If he fails here, obviously, he'll spend the rest of his career in Europe, where he will probably be a great player.

[phxspurfan]

Spurs going to invent a new kind of lineup:

Parker - 6'2"
Mills - 6'0"
Fredette - 6'2
McCallum - 6'3"
Marjaonovic - 7'3"

This kind of lineup was experimented by the Reno Long Horns in the D-league. Basically, the idea is that everyone keeps chucking 3 point shots with one big dude manning the paint to prevent layups. They call it 'organized chaos' read: http://www.rgj.com/story/sports/2014/11/13/murray-new-bighorns-coach-brings-organized-chaos-nba-d-league/18973411/

What happens when the other team pick and rolls marjanovic out to the 3 point line? Parker patrols the paint?

[ceperez]

Last year, he shot the 3 horribly for some reason. But year 1 h shot 36%, year 2 41%, year 3 47% (including 49%that year with the Kings. He can shoot and he can get his shot off. He can't defend. He can dribble, play the pick and roll, and drive and kick, but can't really create a la Steve Nash. No doubt he is a limited player, but if the Spurs can hide his D and get him good looks, I agree he has his best shot at saving his career. Don't forget he's played almost his entire career with Tyreke Evans...he just hasn't been used correctly. That said, he probably gets a non-guaranteed contract and a shot at training camp to prove he can be a shooter and play some kind of point guard/shooting guard for the Spurs. If he fails here, obviously, he'll spend the rest of his career in Europe, where he will probably be a great player.

Players that don't stick with the Spurs beacause of a lack of work ethic. From what I read, Jimmer seems to be a hard working player that just happened to be in the wrong NBA system.

However, Jimmer will be playing behind McCallum who is uber athletic. At SF, Simmons is also uber athletic. Both these players can blow by Jimmer like he wasn't even there. So Jimmer's prospects for proving himself against other Spurs players are next to nil.

However, Spurs players tend to have higher percentages than numbers playing for other teams. So those numbers are going to be much higher. Jimmer is going to find himself unexpectedly open. Based on his reputation, he absolutely isn't going to miss an open shot.

[TampaDude]

NBA = fucked (again) :lol

[ceperez]

What happens when the other team pick and rolls marjanovic out to the 3 point line? Parker patrols the paint?

Controlled chaos defense is zone defense. Marjanovic is in the paint and the guards are at the perimeters, so you they are daring you to take an uncontested mid-range 2 point shot while the the offense takes three point shots or shots at the rim.

[Mugen]

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[NASpurs]

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Det nigga Mugen all over this news :lol

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Free agent guard Jimmer Fredette is finalizing a training camp deal with the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

[NASpurs]

I had typed in "Jimmer" into Twitter and it went from getting 5 new Jimmer related hits in five minutes to 40 in like 2 minutes. I was wondering wtf happened :lol

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Spurs are searching hard for shooters, plan to give Fredette a chance to make roster. Deal includes modest financial guarantee, sources said

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Free agent guard Jimmer Fredette is finalizing a training camp deal with the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
training camp fooder

[ceperez]

Wow!!! Confirmed.... the guy is going to play for the Spurs... and can be cut if he doesn't deliver.. perfect!!!!

[NASpurs]

Who's going to grab the low hanging fruit and start a Mormon Church of Jimmer Fredette thread? :lol

[TXstbobcat]

All this is is a partially guaranteed contract to kick the tires on him in training camp.

[phxspurfan]

Camp fodder

[ceperez]

Who's going to grab the low hanging fruit and start a Mormon Church of Jimmer Fredette thread? :lol

It's called a temple not a church.

[cd98]

Glad he got a shot to stay in the league. Hope he can make the roster. If not, he'll spend the rest of his career in Europe.

[NASpurs]

It's called a temple not a church.

You know more about it than me then. :lol

[LakerHater]

Think they'd get along!?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKiqPFiVAAAC3or.jpg

[timvp]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Free agent guard Jimmer Fredette is finalizing a training camp deal with the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.


Training camp deal probably means something like $50,000 guaranteed.

If that's the case, great news :tu

[BillMc]

Jimmer and Eddie training camp duel should be fun.

[xellos88330]

Interesting. Looks like it is only for training camp.

Pop will most likely find out all he needs to know about Jimmer before camp ends. If he is signed by the end, I wouldn't be surprised. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't. That is my problem with Jimmer. Let us see what happens. :D

[ceperez]

Training camp deal probably means something like $50,000 guaranteed.

If that's the case, great news :tu

Last chance for Jimmer to show he belongs in the NBA.

[Spur|n|Austin]

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[LakerHater]

He jus signed to the Spurs training camp deal!

[timvp]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Spurs are searching hard for shooters, plan to give Fredette a chance to make roster. Deal includes modest financial guarantee, sources said


Nice. Bring in Jimmer, Eddie and a couple vets in the Carlos Delfino mold and let them battle for one spot.

I didn't like Jimmer with a fully guaranteed contract but on a make-good deal, he's a no-brainer.

[NASpurs]

Jazz fans must be committing suicide as we speak.

Seriously though, if his career doesn't take off with the Spurs, he might as well just quit the NBA and go to Europe or something.

[LakerHater]

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[ceperez]

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Absolutely great, with Chip Engeland having him under a microscope, will be able to tell if he's actually legit.

[dabom]

wtf? :lmao

[Darkwaters]

Non-guaranteed training camp try out