BigAg, BigChem, BigFood and the secret stuff in your food-like substances

[boutons_deux]

from a newsletter:

Instead of listening to American consumers, the U.S. House of Representatives just

passed the DARK Act, a bill that would

overturn state genetically engineered (GE) food labeling laws,

block FDA from ever implementing mandatory GE food labeling, and

allow food companies to continue to make misleading “natural” claims for foods that contain GE ingredients.

[Clipper Nation]

But, but, BigGov's regulating our food, right? It must be all good!

[Wild Cobra]

from a newsletter:

Instead of listening to American consumers, the U.S. House of Representatives just

passed the DARK Act, a bill that would

overturn state genetically engineered (GE) food labeling laws,

block FDA from ever implementing mandatory GE food labeling, and

allow food companies to continue to make misleading “natural” claims for foods that contain GE ingredients.



I see you are shitting again Shazbot.

No link means it's another AlterShit article. Right?

[SupremeGuy]

WC pushed bouton's shit in so hard in the that other thread that he's not posting links to his own shitty articles anymore? :lol

[Wild Cobra]

Wow...

Shazbot is correct in that HR 1599 passed.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll462.xml

Here is the text:

https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/hr1599/BILLS-114hr1599rh.pdf

[Wild Cobra]

WC pushed bouton's shit in so hard in the that other thread that he's not posting links to his own shitty articles anymore? :lol

It bugs the hell out of me that he, and others, are quick to post what they read in some activist rag, and don't provide any material to source check.

I'm sorry. What good is an article if they don't provide proper sources?

[DarrinS]

Using Big(shit you're against) and "for profit" -- signs of libtard dementia

[Wild Cobra]

At the same time the bill says there can be no state requirements to label GMO foots that are of interstate commerce, starting on page 15 are standards and provisions for labeling foods that are not GMO.

[sickdsm]

At the same time the bill says there can be no state requirements to label GMO foots that are of interstate commerce, starting on page 15 are standards and provisions for labeling foods that are not GMO.

Science tells us there is no harm from GMO foods. Requiring labeling would be akin to making all gay nba players wear a rainbow uniform.

[baseline bum]

LOL as if man hasn't been doing genetic engineering on food for 30,000 years. Almost all the shit we eat is man-made, except it was done through selective breeding.

[pgardn]

Actually there is some pretty awful stuff used to increase the shelf life of foods.
Unfortunately Boots overextends the argument thereby ruining the legit stuff.

[boutons_deux]

GMO technology isn't a strategy to make higher quality crops, more nutritious, cheaper, etc, etc.

GMO enslaves farmers world-wide to BigAg, BigChem, forced to buy patented seeds and using Ms tons of corresponding x-icides, forever.

glyphosate has sterilized, poisoned the soil and water.

People want their BigFood shit's contents exposed, they don't want mystery food, mystery chemicals, so Repug whores make a FEDERAL REGULATION as they are paid to do that blocks states, FREEDOM!, from passing labelling regulations.

[boutons_deux]

LOL as if man hasn't been doing genetic engineering on food for 30,000 years. Almost all the shit we eat is man-made, except it was done through selective breeding.

BigChem, BigFood, BigAg and genetic engineering are for more profits, "rentier agriculture", NOT for improved, more nutritious, more productive crops, which was, is the objective of traditional plant, animal breeding.

[pgardn]

GMO technology isn't a strategy to make higher quality crops, more nutritious, cheaper, etc, etc.

GMO enslaves farmers world-wide to BigAg, BigChem, forced to buy patented seeds and using Ms tons of corresponding x-icides, forever.

glyphosate has sterilized, poisoned the soil and water.

People want their BigFood shit's contents exposed, they don't want mystery food, mystery chemicals, so Repug whores make a FEDERAL REGULATION as they are paid to do that blocks states, FREEDOM!, from passing labelling regulations.

So all GMO is bad?

[Blizzardwizard]

All GMO food should be labelled. But all the BigCorp and their BS will make sure that doesn't happen.

[boutons_deux]

So all GMO is bad?

Still waiting for your proof that Vit A from your beloved GMO rice is bioavailable and gets into blood circulation.

GMO shit cannot be evaluated as food alone(it's NOTHING SPECIAL, even inferior to organic), but only in the context of the for-profit, polluting, poisoning industrial system that produces it.

If GMO shit is so wonderful, why isn't it advertized on packaging labels?

[boutons_deux]

USDA Moves to Approve "Agent Orange" GMO Seeds
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/21069-usda-moves-to-approve-agent-orange-gmo-seeds

[Wild Cobra]

LOL as if man hasn't been doing genetic engineering on food for 30,000 years. Almost all the shit we eat is man-made, except it was done through selective breeding.

Genetic manipulation is far different than hybrids of genetics. It's perfectly understandable for concerns.

[Wild Cobra]

GMO technology isn't a strategy to make higher quality crops, more nutritious, cheaper, etc, etc.

GMO enslaves farmers world-wide to BigAg, BigChem, forced to buy patented seeds and using Ms tons of corresponding x-icides, forever.

glyphosate has sterilized, poisoned the soil and water.

People want their BigFood shit's contents exposed, they don't want mystery food, mystery chemicals, so Repug whores make a FEDERAL REGULATION as they are paid to do that blocks states, FREEDOM!, from passing labelling regulations.

Can you tell me how many good innovations have come about when there was not a profit motive?

[boutons_deux]

Can you tell me how many good innovations have come about when there was not a profit motive?

I dunno. But you, Expert Mind Reader through the millenia, reveal to us the motivations of people who advanced civilization.

[sickdsm]

Gmos are mainly designed to be resistant to weeds, diseases and insects. Quit pretending you know anything about anything.

Roundup breaks down in sunlight and soil. Funny how you say it's sterilizing the soil. Are you referring to raising the salinity? In that case home diy remedies of vinegar etc are much worse for salt levels. Do you care to explain that ?

[boutons_deux]

Gmos are mainly designed to be resistant to weeds, diseases and insects. Quit pretending you know anything about anything.

how naive. GMOs enslave agriculture to perennial purchases of GMO seed and corresponding x-icides.

BigChem LIES that glyphosate breaks down "quickly". You could look up the truth. "glyphosate doesn't break down"

[DarrinS]

Anti-GMO is akin to being anti-vaxer

Why does boutons want 3rd world kids to die?

[boutons_deux]

"Anti-GMO is akin to being anti-vaxer"

You Lie. akin only your rightwingnut "logic"

"Why does boutons want 3rd world kids to die?"

You Lie

[Clipper Nation]

All GMO food should be labelled. But all the BigCorp and their BS will make sure that doesn't happen.
Why should private businesses be forced at gunpoint by BigGov to put labels on their products to soothe your irrational anti-scientific fear of GMOs?

[Blizzardwizard]

Why should private businesses be forced at gunpoint by BigGov to put labels on their products to soothe your irrational anti-scientific fear of GMOs?

'Anti-scientific' :lol

Conservatives of all people taking the scientific high ground :lol

[Blizzardwizard]

Why should private businesses be forced at gunpoint by BigGov to put labels on their products to soothe your irrational anti-scientific fear of GMOs?

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11760329_10154095934397908_999732660458273705_n.pn g?oh=0dd9ed669923f29f4d889d5b77bea778&oe=564AE43B


Bernie Sanders with another truthbomb.

[TeyshaBlue]

It's corn, Bernie.

[Clipper Nation]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11760329_10154095934397908_999732660458273705_n.pn g?oh=0dd9ed669923f29f4d889d5b77bea778&oe=564AE43B


Bernie Sanders with another truthbomb.
More retardation from Bernie. Everything he says is more evidence that liberalism is a mental disease.

Humans have been genetically modifying crops since at least 10,500 BCE. We've survived this whole time without private companies being forced at gunpoint by the state to put GMO labels on their food.

I'd say I'm surprised that the same libtards who claim to be the "party of science" are so anti-science on this issue, but given that being anti-GMO allows you guys to smear successful businesses for no real reason, I'm not surprised.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

First, the "libtard" thing gets old. Second, I'm no GMOphobe. I know many conservatives who are all about organic foods and paying twice the amount for a damn vegetable.

[Blizzardwizard]

More retardation from Bernie. Everything he says is more evidence that liberalism is a mental disease.

Humans have been genetically modifying crops since at least 10,500 BCE. We've survived this whole time without private companies being forced at gunpoint by the state to put GMO labels on their food.

I'd say I'm surprised that the same libtards who claim to be the "party of science" are so anti-science on this issue, but given that being anti-GMO allows you guys to smear successful businesses for no real reason, I'm not surprised.

Claim liberalism is a mental disease,

pushes Conservatism and their 'the world was created in 7 days agenda' into education.

Tries to claim having less guns will create more gun violence.

Mental disease my ass :lol

[Clipper Nation]

First, the "libtard" thing gets old.

Tell me about it. Libtards need to just STFU and GTFO already. Move to one of your beloved European socialist wonderlands or something.

[Blizzardwizard]

Tell me about it. Libtards need to just STFU and GTFO already. Move to one of your beloved European socialist wonderlands or something.

You should come to England, I'm sure you'd love living in the Conservative utopia full of private sector fun and the government's own version of The Hunger Games for poor people. You'd have a blast.

[Clipper Nation]

You should come to England, I'm sure you'd love living in the Conservative utopia full of private sector fun and the government's own version of The Hunger Games for poor people. You'd have a blast.
The same England that is wasting billions on the national elderly-euthanization and wait-list program you call healthcare? The one that has been referred to as "the world's first politically-correct totalitarian state" (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/9595417/is_britain_the_worlds_first_politically_correct_to talitarian_state/) for your SJW justice system? The one that's responsible for 7% of the world's welfare spending? (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/585255/Britain-welfare-spending-largest-George-Osborne-benefits-Treasury)

[sickdsm]

how naive. GMOs enslave agriculture to perennial purchases of GMO seed and corresponding x-icides.

BigChem LIES that glyphosate breaks down "quickly". You could look up the truth. "glyphosate doesn't break down"

Talk about Naive. Gmo s don't force me to buy seed next year. Laws concerning intellectual property do. Other countries replant the same seed year after year. Only an idiot would blame it on the seed.


You would instantly be a billionaire if you could make glyphosphate not break down. Roundup is sprayed every few weeks on crops unless you use a stronger chemical. There is no residual action on roundup.

[Blizzardwizard]

The same England that is wasting billions on the national elderly-euthanization and wait-list program you call healthcare? The one that has been referred to as "the world's first politically-correct totalitarian state" (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/9595417/is_britain_the_worlds_first_politically_correct_to talitarian_state/) for your SJW justice system? The one that's responsible for 7% of the world's welfare spending? (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/585255/Britain-welfare-spending-largest-George-Osborne-benefits-Treasury)

Ed West? :lmao

Jeez, took you that long to find that brainwashed garbage.

And the Sunday Express, if ever a national newspaper could be mistaken for The Onion, that'd be it.

You may somehow think England is some welfare haven (which it would be better off being than whatever it is now), but if you actually look at the overall inequality and poverty figures, the conservatives have actually somehow managed to increase relative overall poverty in England to 23%, your kinda figures huh?

[sickdsm]

Google LD50 of roundup. Lots of results will show you it's safer and cheaper than soccer mom home brews. Safer than a lot of common household products also.

[pgardn]

Still waiting for your proof that Vit A from your beloved GMO rice is bioavailable and gets into blood circulation.

GMO shit cannot be evaluated as food alone(it's NOTHING SPECIAL, even inferior to organic), but only in the context of the for-profit, polluting, poisoning industrial system that produces it.

If GMO shit is so wonderful, why isn't it advertized on packaging labels?

Because people like you are scared shitless of things you don't understand.
Still in the works ya fruit bat. You actually hope Golden Rice fails, how sad is that?

http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v23/n4/full/nbt1082.html

[JoeChalupa]

I understand the concern about GMO but I try not to eat many processed foods.

[boutons_deux]

Because people like you are scared shitless of things you don't understand.
Still in the works ya fruit bat. You actually hope Golden Rice fails, how sad is that?

http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v23/n4/full/nbt1082.html

You Lie

I don't hope it fails, just show us PROOF that your adored gmo rice actually provides bio-available Vit A in humans. "good intentions" of the rice developers, financers are meaningless.

[pgardn]

You Lie

I don't hope it fails, just show us PROOF that your adored gmo rice actually provides bio-available Vit A in humans. "good intentions" of the rice developers, financers are meaningless.

Do you want to go through all the GMO successes?

Again, you are willing to throw a wonderful technique out the window because of a perceived Big attachment. You are a perfect example of why some liberals are so misguided as you are truly a conservative; Unwilling to change your ideas even if proven wrong. Stay the course boots, Evolution is a big mess as well.

You are who you hate, and it's funny you can't see this.

[pgardn]

You Lie

I don't hope it fails, just show us PROOF that your adored gmo rice actually provides bio-available Vit A in humans. "good intentions" of the rice developers, financers are meaningless.

I already have you dip shit. Go read all the links I gave you again.

[spursncowboys]

Twice now when I bought HEB's generic chunky soup, I googled the FDA code and saw it was recalled.

[spursncowboys]

I understand the concern about GMO but I try not to eat many processed foods.
Same here. I've also completely cut out anything with "rib meat" label. I saw a huge difference in my kid's behavior and my health.

[Clipper Nation]

Ed West? :lmao

Jeez, took you that long to find that brainwashed garbage.

And the Sunday Express, if ever a national newspaper could be mistaken for The Onion, that'd be it.

You may somehow think England is some welfare haven (which it would be better off being than whatever it is now), but if you actually look at the overall inequality and poverty figures, the conservatives have actually somehow managed to increase relative overall poverty in England to 23%, your kinda figures huh?
It's almost as if handouts keep people dependent on BigGov, as opposed to actually working for a living.

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It's almost as if handouts keep people dependent on BigGov, as opposed to actually working for a living.

same old liar, same old LIE

[pgardn]

I have a garden.

Keep the pests off with soap and water.

I also have to GMO Tangerine trees that do wonderfully in the rocky basic soils of NW SA.
If you time it properly and do the proper research you can find some good hybrids that Texas ATM has played with that do very well at different times of the year in hot Texas rocky soils. ATM has got some fantastic VFM tomatoes ( highly modified to resist roundworms, common tomato fungus, etc...)

You should be getting those young tomatoes ready for a good fall crop. Your okra should be doing fantastically this year. Pick it early as possible, you wait one day and it's too big to harvest in some cases.

Boots stay away from all ATM hybrids, some are GMO.

[pgardn]

You Lie

I don't hope it fails, just show us PROOF that your adored gmo rice actually provides bio-available Vit A in humans. "good intentions" of the rice developers, financers are meaningless.

Another idiot that does not get science. The research is ONGOING. Should the research be halted? You read the nature article, does it convince you, the expert, that Golden Rice is a dead end ?

[boutons_deux]

Another idiot that does not get science. The research is ONGOING. Should the research be halted? You read the nature article, does it convince you, the expert, that Golden Rice is a dead end ?

they have the rice? or don't?

if they have it, have they fed it to (young) humans and checked for increase in serum Vit A?

Bill and Melinda are donating much-needed toilets to poor countries (but what about the plumbing, septic tanks?). There are 600K homeless in USA, including a couple 100K school children.

[pgardn]

they have the rice? or don't?

if they have it, have they fed it to (young) humans and checked for increase in serum Vit A?

Bill and Melinda are donating much-needed toilets to poor countries (but what about the plumbing, septic tanks?). There are 600K homeless in USA, including a couple 100K school children.

HUGE DEFLECTION.

Why is disease so rampant in poor counties?

Packed conditions, lack of sanitation AND POOR NUTRITION (immune system)

As a liberal you should be absolutely ashamed of your post. It's disingenuous and pitiful.

[pgardn]

they have the rice? or don't?

if they have it, have they fed it to (young) humans and checked for increase in serum Vit A?

.

So stop the research on Golden Rice because it's not finished?
Stop being such a disingenuous panty waste.

[Blizzardwizard]

It's almost as if handouts keep people dependent on BigGov, as opposed to actually working for a living.

Or that having welfare keeps people alive, and therefore available to work, but whatever.

[sickdsm]

I have a garden.

Keep the pests off with soap and water.

I also have to GMO Tangerine trees that do wonderfully in the rocky basic soils of NW SA.
If you time it properly and do the proper research you can find some good hybrids that Texas ATM has played with that do very well at different times of the year in hot Texas rocky soils. ATM has got some fantastic VFM tomatoes ( highly modified to resist roundworms, common tomato fungus, etc...)

You should be getting those young tomatoes ready for a good fall crop. Your okra should be doing fantastically this year. Pick it early as possible, you wait one day and it's too big to harvest in some cases.

Boots stay away from all ATM hybrids, some are GMO.

When I spray any sort of insecticide there is a pretty good chance I get sick. The way it's been described to me is that the insecticide s are the worst for health. Fungicides are second and herbicides are the least likely to make an applicator ill. I'd imagine the soap is not killing the insects but it's leaving an icky film on the plant. You are eating soap basically.Lots of insecticides kill on contact but leave no residual action behind.

[pgardn]

When I spray any sort of insecticide there is a pretty good chance I get sick. The way it's been described to me is that the insecticide s are the worst for health. Fungicides are second and herbicides are the least likely to make an applicator ill. I'd imagine the soap is not killing the insects but it's leaving an icky film on the plant. You are eating soap basically.Lots of insecticides kill on contact but leave no residual action behind.

Soap definitely kills the stink bugs that probe tomatoes and aphids. Soap is too basic for them I think. I have not watched if direct contact kills all the types of caterpillars. I might keep some caterpillars and grow them to moths like I used to, except spray them and watch. Only problem is I gotta go out of town for work too much and my wife is starting to refuse to help with my experiments. Imagine that...

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AbstractGlyphosate is one of the most widely applied herbicides globally but its persistence in seawater has not been reported.

Here we quantify the biodegradation of glyphosate using standard “simulation” flask tests with native bacterial populations and coastal seawater from the Great Barrier Reef.

The half-life for glyphosate at 25 °C in low-light was 47 days, extending to 267 days in the dark at 25 °C and 315 days in the dark at 31 °C, which is the longest persistence reported for this herbicide.

AMPA, the microbial transformation product of glyphosate, was detected under all conditions, confirming that degradation was mediated by the native microbial community.

This study demonstrates glyphosate is moderately persistent in the marine water under low light conditions and is highly persistent in the dark.

Little degradation would be expected during flood plumes in the tropics, which could potentially deliver dissolved and sediment-bound glyphosate far from shore.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0025326X14000228

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You can't separate GMO food from the corrupt GMO industrial/political system

Vandana Shiva: ‘We Must End Monsanto’s Colonization, It’s Enslavement of Farmers’

Monsanto’s subversion of democratic legal processes is not new. In fact, it is their modus operandi, be it the subversion of LA’s decision to be GMO free by amending the California Seed Law (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/13-14/bill/asm/ab_2451-2500/ab_2470_bill_20140825_chaptered.pdf)—equating corporations with persons and making seed libraries and exchange of seed (http://www.alternet.org/environment/how-seed-laws-make-farmers-seeds-illegal)beyond 3 miles illegal—or suing Maui County (http://www.rt.com/usa/205655-monsanto-dow-gmo-hawaii/) for passing a law banning GMOs.

Decades before there was a “debate” over GMOs and Monsanto’s PR and law firms became the busiest of bees, India was introduced to this corrupting, corporate giant that had no respect for the laws of the land. When this massive company did speak of laws, these laws had been framed, essentially, by their own lawyers.

Today, Indian cotton farmers are facing a genocide that has resulted in the death of at least300,000 of their brothers and sisters between 1995 and 2013 (http://www.international.ucla.edu/institute/article/145702), averaging 14,462 per year (1995-2000) and 16,743 per year (2001-2011). This epidemic began in the cotton belt, in Maharashtra, where 53,818 farmers have taken their lives. Monsanto, on it’s own website (http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/pages/india-pink-bollworm.aspx), admits that pink bollworm “resistance [to Bt] is natural and expected” and that the resistance to Bt “posed a significant threat to the nearly 5 million farmers who were planting the product in India.” Eighty four percent of the farmer suicides have been attributed to Monsanto’s Bt Cotton, placing the corporation’s greed and lawlessness at the heart of India’s agrarian crisis.

There are three outright illegalities to Monsanto’s existence in India.

First, Monsanto undemocratically imposed the false idea of “manufacturing” and “inventing” a seed, undermining robust Indian laws—that do not allow patents on life—and by taking patents on life through international trade law. Since 1999, Monsanto has had the U.S. government do its dirty work, blocking the mandatory review of the Monsanto Law in TRIPS (the Trade Related Intellectual Property Rights Agreement implemented through the WTO).

Second, since they do not have a patent for Bt-Cotton (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Seeds-of-doubt-Monsanto-never-had-Bt-cotton-patent/articleshow/47578304.cms), Monsanto’s collection of royalties as “trait value” or as a “fee for technology traits” (IPR category that does not exist in any legal framework and was concocted by Monsanto lawyers to work outside of the laws of the land) is illegal. These illegal royalty collections have been collected from the most marginal farmers, pushing them to take their own lives.
Third, the smuggling of a controlled substance without approvals (and thus Monsanto’s very entry into India) is a violation and subversion of India’s Biosafety Regulations. This includes the illegal introduction of GMOs into the food system in India, which poses grave risks to the health of ordinary Indian citizens.

Illegal entry of Bt Cotton into India
The Genetic Engineering Appraisal Committee (GEAC (http://www.moef.nic.in/division/genetic-engineering-approval)), the apex body constituted in the Ministry of Environment and Forests, is solely entrusted with the responsibility of approving field trials of any genetically modified organisms (GMOs). India’s biosafety framework—one of the strongest in the world—is governed by The Rules for the Manufacture, Use, Import, Export and Storage of Hazardous Micro Organisms, Genetically Engineered Organisms or Cells (notified under the Environment Protection Act, 1986).

ARTICLE (7) OF THE RULES STIPULATES:

APPROVAL AND PROHIBITIONS ETC.

(1) NO PERSON SHALL IMPORT, EXPORT, TRANSPORT, MANUFACTURE, PROCESS, USE OR SELL ANY HAZARDOUS MICROORGANISMS OF GENETICALLY ENGINEERED ORGANISMS/SUBSTANCES OR CELLS EXCEPT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE GENETIC ENGINEERING APPROVAL COMMITTEE.
On 10 March 1995, MAHYCO (which became Monsanto-Mahyco in 1998) imported 100 grams of cottonseed that contained the MON531-Bt Gene into India without approval from the GEAC. MAHYCO, under undisclosed circumstances, had obtained permission from the RCGM (Review Committee of Genetic Manipulation under the Department of Biotechnology (DBT)), which does not have the authority to approve such an import. Without the approval of the governing body responsible for the approval of the import (GEAC) Monsanto had smuggled a controlled substance into India.

ARTICLE (4) OF THE RULES STIPULATES:

(4) GENETIC ENGINEERING APPROVAL COMMITTEE (GEAC)

THIS COMMITTEE SHALL FUNCTION AS A BODY UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT FORESTS AND WILDLIFE FOR APPROVAL OF ACTIVITIES INVOLVING LARGE SCALE USE OF HAZARDOUS MICROORGANISMS AND RECOMBINANTS IN RESEARCH AND INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTION FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANGLE. THE COMMITTEE SHALL ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVAL OF PROPOSALS RELATING TO RELEASE OF GENETICALLY ENGINEERED ORGANISMS AND PRODUCTS INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.
Open field trials are a deliberate release of GMOs into the environment and, under the above Indian law, require approval by the GEAC. Eager to get to market and establish a monopoly in the cotton sector of India in 1998, Monsanto-Mahyco, without the approval of the sole agency allowed to grant permission for open field trials—the GEAC—started large scale, multi-centric, open field trials of Bt Cotton in 40 locations spread across nine states of India.

...

http://ecowatch.com/2015/07/25/vandana-shiva-end-monsanto/

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Prefer Your Meat Drug-Free? You're the "Fringe 1 Percent"

Elanco, the animal-health division of the pharma giant Eli Lilly, makes one of the world's most controversial growth-promoting chemicals for meat production: ractopamine, marketed as Optaflexx (https://www.elanco.us/labels/Beef/Optaflexx.pdf) for cattle, Paylean (http://www.elanco.us/products-services/swine/feed-efficiency-finishing-swine.aspx) for pigs, and Topmax (http://palsusa.com/files/msds/FeedMedication/Topmax%20MSDS.pdf) for turkeys.

The campaign insists that organic methods, which forbid growth-boosting chemicals for animals, aren't going to cut it when it comes to fixing hunger.

A member of the class of medicines known as beta-agonists, which are also given to asthmatic people to help relax their airway muscles, ractopamine makes animals grow bigger faster—but it also mimics stress hormones and makes animals' hearts beat faster. Studies suggest that it makes livestock more vulnerable to heat (http://www.grandin.com/heat.stress.lameness.html).

Ractopamine is banned for animal use in the European Union (http://www.globalmeatnews.com/Industry-Markets/European-ministers-uphold-EU-ractopamine-ban), China (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-11/pigs-using-muscle-drug-means-u-s-missing-china-pork-import-boom), and more than 100 other countries, and it faces mounting criticism here in the United States.

One can see why an exec operating in the meat industry might be feeling defensive. Industrial-scale meat production has been linked (http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2013/09/cdc-meat-industry-yes-you-contribute-antibiotic-resistance) to the rise of antibiotic resistance in human medicine (which claims at least 700,000 lives per year globally (http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/01/antibiotic-failure-will-cost-10-million-lives-annualy-2050)); ecological ruin (http://www.vaclavsmil.com/wp-content/uploads/Smil_2014.pdf); increased risk of cancer (http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/10/what-you-need-know-about-meat-and-cancer); and the hollowing (http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/11/industrial-scale-hog-farming-screws-small-towns) out (http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/121-a182/) of communities where it alights. Insult to injury, US consumers have been cutting back on meat consumption overall, and turning increasingly to drug-free, pasture-raised product.

To clean up his company's image, Elanco's president, Jeff Simmons, has launched a "counteroffensive," reports (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-29/the-case-for-juiced-up-cows-in-the-organic-age)Bloomberg Businessweek reporter Andrew Martin. In addition to his responsibilities operating a $2.3 billion-dollar global animal-drug business, Simmons runs an initiative called ENOUGH Movement (http://www.enoughmovement.com/), which calls itself (http://www.enoughmovement.com/about.aspx) a "global community working together to ensure everyone has access to nutritious, affordable food—today and in the coming decades."

he complained that a group he labeled the "fringe 1 percent," agitating for increased regulation on meat producers, is driving the national debate around food.

Simmons is taking a page from the agrichemical/GMO industry playbook: present your industry as crucial to "feeding the world," as global population grows to 9 billion by 2050, and paint your critics as out-of-touch rich people who are indifferent to hunger and poverty.

"Simmons doesn't directly pitch Elanco products during his speeches on hunger, saying he has a higher purpose: alleviating world hunger and changing a conversation that's been hijacked by a vocal fringe of activists," Businessweek's Martin writes. "If the arguments sound familiar, it's because Monsanto and other proponents of genetically modified foods made similar claims."

We're on the verge of a loud campaign by the meat industry, particularly its pharma sector, to portray its critics as a privileged fringe, untroubled by global hunger.

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/11/pharma-exec-meat-industry-critics-youre-lunatic-fringe

[sickdsm]

I raise drug free beef. It does not only mean implants. Antibiotics are included. It makes for sicker animals. And to be honest the premium isn't there.

[boutons_deux]

I raise drug free beef. It does not only mean implants. Antibiotics are included. It makes for sicker animals. And to be honest the premium isn't there.

drug free, but free range? or pathogenic CAFO/feedlot?

fed grass as natural forage (makes them healthy) or GMO corn/soy as unnatural food (makes them sick needing drugs)?

[pgardn]

When I spray any sort of insecticide there is a pretty good chance I get sick. The way it's been described to me is that the insecticide s are the worst for health. Fungicides are second and herbicides are the least likely to make an applicator ill. I'd imagine the soap is not killing the insects but it's leaving an icky film on the plant. You are eating soap basically.Lots of insecticides kill on contact but leave no residual action behind.

No. Soap washes off quite well. It's water soluble of course and stays on the outside of the fruit. Dishwashing liquid mixed with water to be more exact. You do have to spray more often though. Lots more work for a large garden.


And upon further observation with the fall tomatoes soap does a great job. Definitely kills the aphids and stink bugs. The stink bugs are definitely the ones messing with the fruit. I will keep using it.

[pgardn]

drug free, but free range? or pathogenic CAFO/feedlot?

fed grass as natural forage (makes them healthy) or GMO corn/soy as unnatural food (makes them sick needing drugs)?

Whats the difference with cattle fed nonGMO corn? It's still to get them fat.And It's still not free range.

[sickdsm]

drug free, but free range? or pathogenic CAFO/feedlot?

fed grass as natural forage (makes them healthy) or GMO corn/soy as unnatural food (makes them sick needing drugs)?

They are fed both ngmo and gmo corn since their is no scientific difference. I sell them at about 600 lbs and someone else finish s them. They typically use them for their natural fed program or grass fed if they have pasture for them. My personal beef is finished on corn and distillers grain since a low protein diet doesn't result in a tasty steak. You need fat for the marbeling and that's where the taste comes from. If you wanted a crappy dried up leather pouch to gnaw on then maybe an old dairy cow or bison is more up your alley?

[sickdsm]

drug free, but free range? or pathogenic CAFO/feedlot?

fed grass as natural forage (makes them healthy) or GMO corn/soy as unnatural food (makes them sick needing drugs)?
Assuming that your an anti vaxxer by those statements.

[boutons_deux]

Assuming that your an anti vaxxer by those statements.

I against some vaccines that are mostly useless, other are very effective (at least for a while)

I assume you feeding your animals unnatural feedstock and various carb instead of their natural diet of only grasses.

[I. Hustle]

No. Soap washes off quite well. It's water soluble of course and stays on the outside of the fruit. Dishwashing liquid mixed with water to be more exact. You do have to spray more often though. Lots more work for a large garden.


And upon further observation with the fall tomatoes soap does a great job. Definitely kills the aphids and stink bugs. The stink bugs are definitely the ones messing with the fruit. I will keep using it.

So you just mix it and spray? I am putting together a pepper garden and my main concern was keeping bugs off. I want to plant jalapeños, serranos, etc. but I didn't want to waste time and money if they were just going to be eaten up.

[boutons_deux]

So you just mix it and spray? I am putting together a pepper garden and my main concern was keeping bugs off. I want to plant jalapeños, serranos, etc. but I didn't want to waste time and money if they were just going to be eaten up.

Indian neem oil seem to work well.

[boutons_deux]

Indian neem oil seem to work well.

I use iron phosphate for slugs

[I. Hustle]

Indian neem oil seem to work well.


I use iron phosphate for slugs

I'm going to look into both. I'm not going to pretend like I know anything about gardening. I just wanted to do it as a hobby. Nothing too big. I appreciate the help.

[sickdsm]

I against some vaccines that are mostly useless, other are very effective (at least for a while)

I assume you feeding your animals unnatural feedstock and various carb instead of their natural diet of only grasses.

Since naturally grass doesn't grow in the winter they'd be dead by now.

I'm in the business of raising food. Not hosting a bovine preserve.

[sickdsm]

I against some vaccines that are mostly useless, other are very effective (at least for a while)

I assume you feeding your animals unnatural feedstock and various carb instead of their natural diet of only grasses.

There's vaccines that are very effective for animals. Why not use them on animals?

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More Than 100 Monsanto Employees Crashed My Presentation on GE Crops and Pesticides

On October 14, I presented the findings of the Center for Food Safety's Pesticides in Paradise (http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/reports/3901/pesticides-in-paradise-hawaiis-health-and-environment-at-risk) report on the island of Moloka‘i in Hawai'i. At around 5:45 PM, about 15 minutes before the presentation was going to start, more than 100 Monsanto employees, all dressed in neon yellow shirts, arrived.

I re-entered the main hall, now crowded with community members, workers. The island is so small that I already recognized faces from the four days I had spent here. My team gave me half horrified, half encouraging looks as I paced the front of the hall. With a few deep breaths and a nod from the few friends we had in the audience, I began. (You can watch the full video, un-edited here) (https://youtu.be/d2iOTwmiN_c).

The presentation walks the audience through data on pesticides and genetically engineered crops in Hawai‘i and the medical literature that examines the human health and environmental impacts of pesticide exposure (http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/files/key-findings_2nd_ed_61347.pdf), on pregnant women, children, and farm workers, who are particularly vulnerable to adverse health effects.

By the time I had wrapped up the presentation, the agitation in the room was palpable.

The company spokespeople had their time on stage, rallying the crowd to cheers of opposition, repeatedly asserting that the information we were sharing was false....

"These are the real experts on pesticides," said Robert Stevenson, president of the Molokai Chamber of Commerce gesturing to the Monsanto workers. "No one knows agriculture and pesticides more than the people of Moloka‘i."

http://www.alternet.org/environment/more-100-monsanto-employees-crashed-my-presentation-ge-crops-and-pesticides

"the people of Moloka‘i.", their crops, their land, their water, their bodies being poisoned by Monsanto for profit

[sickdsm]

Which is it? Pesticides or gmo? Because they are inversely related. Would you like to see a picture in my hazmat suit next year planting my non gmo corn? That sounds safe.

Hawaii is unique to all seed companies because it's year round environment and isolation. You do realize that gmo seed is developed in a non gmo format then spliced with the traits desired? Your poisonous corn is also for sale in a non gmo hybrid from Monsanto.

[boutons_deux]

Which is it? Pesticides or gmo? Because they are inversely related. Would you like to see a picture in my hazmat suit next year planting my non gmo corn? That sounds safe.

Hawaii is unique to all seed companies because it's year round environment and isolation. You do realize that gmo seed is developed in a non gmo format then spliced with the traits desired? Your poisonous corn is also for sale in a non gmo hybrid from Monsanto.

gmo food isn't the primary problem, it's the enslavement of farmers to Monsanto/Syngenta/Bayer AND above all the pollution of air, land, water, people.

[SpursforSix]

gmo food isn't the primary problem, it's the enslavement of farmers to Monsanto/Syngenta/Bayer AND above all the pollution of air, land, water, people.

it's really the demand for food that's the problem. lower the demand for grains and stuff.

[boutons_deux]

it's really the demand for food that's the problem. lower the demand for grains and stuff.

the Big Lie from BigChem is that BigPesticide produces higher yields.

[SpursforSix]

the Big Lie from BigChem is that BigPesticide produces higher yields.

BigPesticide is in cahoots with BigPharma

[sickdsm]

the Big Lie from BigChem is that BigPesticide produces higher yields.

Now you're just reciting buzzwords. Insecticide doesn't come from big chemical companies. It's old and off patent. Generics all around. Sometimes I wonder if you're not a person but a program that's not capable of an original coherent response. It would explain a lot.

[pgardn]

So you just mix it and spray? I am putting together a pepper garden and my main concern was keeping bugs off. I want to plant jalapeños, serranos, etc. but I didn't want to waste time and money if they were just going to be eaten up.

Yep.

Dont have peppers this year but it has done a good job on tomatoes.
Looks like the tomato hornworm is not bothered by it. I can usually just find those bastards and crush them between my teeth.

[pgardn]

I against some vaccines that are mostly useless, other are very effective (at least for a while)

I assume you feeding your animals unnatural feedstock and various carb instead of their natural diet of only grasses.

Which suggested vaccines are useless?

[boutons_deux]

Which suggested vaccines are useless?

seasonal flu vaccines, for healthy people

[pgardn]

seasonal flu vaccines, for healthy people

Thanks for relying on herd immunity to protect yourself. And when you don't get the flu (like me), and spread the virus to some child (not me I get vaccinated anyway NOW), give yourself a big pat on the back knowing you screwed big pharma.

Selfish bastard.

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Thanks for relying on herd immunity to protect yourself. And when you don't get the flu (like me), and spread the virus to some child (not me I get vaccinated anyway NOW), give yourself a big pat on the back knowing you screwed big pharma.

Selfish bastard.

GFY. seasonal vaccines for healthy people are a BigPharma milch cow. Even vaccine-pusher CDC says they are ineffective. viruses mutate, so this year's vaccines are for last year's virusus, not the new ones this year, etc, etc.

[boutons_deux]

Selfish bastard.

stupid, ignorant bastard

google "cdc flu vaccine ineffective"

[TheSanityAnnex]

Can we stick to the gmo/ngmo food topic so I can continue to watch boutons get his shit pushed in harder than chumpdumper at a chemsex weekend party

[boutons_deux]

Can we stick to the gmo/ngmo food topic so I can continue to watch boutons get his shit pushed in harder than chumpdumper at a chemsex weekend party

why don't have a go a pushin shit and see what happens?

[pgardn]

GFY. seasonal vaccines for healthy people are a BigPharma milch cow. Even vaccine-pusher CDC says they are ineffective. viruses mutate, so this year's vaccines are for last year's virusus, not the new ones this year, etc, etc.

Total and utter BS. You don't know how to read these articles.

You are selfish and rely on the rest of the population to protect your ass.
You are a liberal and understand you could give the flu to a young kid or an old person and kill them due to your ignorance. Amazing.

Last year in Texas the trivalent vaccine missed a major flu causing virus yet STILL made the symptoms much milder. The quadravalent vaccine had it covered. #research. So it worked. Pharma way overcharges people that can afford the vaccine. This is definitely true. So knowing that the poor can get the flu vaccine free YOU WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE IN YOUR KNOWLEDGE ADVISING THEM NOT TO VACCINATE.

You are seriously the poster child for the liberal gone nuts... You know the John Stewart skit on this, it's you.

[pgardn]

Can we stick to the gmo/ngmo food topic so I can continue to watch boutons get his shit pushed in harder than chumpdumper at a chemsex weekend party

No.

I cant. His misunderstanding and disingenuous twisting of Science needs to be exposed on all levels. Just like the anti evolution nuts we have on this board. Cept boots is, in all practicality, more dangerous to others around him.

[TheSanityAnnex]

No.

I cant. His misunderstanding and disingenuous twisting of Science needs to be exposed on all levels. Just like the anti evolution nuts we have on this board. Cept boots is, in all practicality, more dangerous to others around him.
Continue on pushing his shit in

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DuPont Caught Covering Up Deadly Risks of Chemical that’s in Nearly Everything & Everyone

Thousands of people have filed lawsuits against DuPont for poisoning them with a chemical that causes birth defects, multiple types of cancer, and death. According to internal DuPont documents and emails, the company knew about the health risks to their employees and local communities but covered up the data in order to increase their profit margin. After decades of dumping this toxic chemical into the ocean, rivers, landfills, and the air, DuPont has contaminated the bloodstream of nearly every American with this non-biodegradable chemical.

In 1946, Teflon was introduced with an essential ingredient known as perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA) or C8. For several decades, DuPont and seven other corporations contaminated the U.S. by using C8 in hundreds of products, including Gore-Tex and other waterproof clothing; coatings for eyeglasses and tennis rackets; stain-proof coatings for carpets and furniture; bicycle lubricants; communications cables; fast food wrappers; fire-fighting foam; microwave popcorn bags; pizza boxes, ski wax; non-stick cookware; and satellite components.

According to internal DuPont documents, an employee named R.A. Dickison noted in 1954 receiving an inquiry into the possible toxicity of C8. Seven years later, a group of in-house researchers discovered that C8 was toxic and should be handled with extreme care. However, DuPont decided not to disclose this information to its own employees. Over the years, DuPont scientists have conducted experiments exposing dogs, rats, rabbits, monkeys, and humans to varying doses of C8, which killed many of the lab animals.

During the first trimester of her pregnancy, former DuPont employee Sue Bailey was transferred to the Teflon division at the Parkersburg plant in 1980. Her son, Bucky, was born with tear duct deformities, only one nostril, an eyelid that started down by his nose, and a condition known as keyhole pupil. According to a recent article (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/08/11/dupont-chemistry-deception/) in The Intercept, at least one of eight babies born to women who worked in the Teflon division had birth defects.

While on maternity leave, Bailey received a phone call from a DuPont doctor asking if her baby had any birth defects. Before Bailey returned to work, she learned that DuPont decided to remove all female employees from the Teflon division.

When Bailey returned to work and visited the plant doctor, Dr. Younger Lovelace Power told her that Bucky’s birth defects were not caused by C8 and also told Bailey that the company had no record of her working in the Teflon division.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/thousands-people-file-lawsuits-dupont-causing-cancer-birth-defects-toxic-chemical/

How many deformed babies, cancers, etc has Muslim terrorists/ISIS caused in USA?

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Why Eating Meat in America Is Like Going on a Trip to the Drug Store


Most of the meat Americans eat is banned in other industrialized countries.

chicken giant Sanderson Farms for falsely marketing its products as “100% Natural” even though it contains many unnatural and even prohibited substances. Sanderson chicken products tested positive for the antibiotic chloramphenical, banned in food animals (https://www.organicconsumers.org/sites/default/files/oca_v_sanderson_-_complaint_court_stamped.pdf), and amoxicillin, not approved for use in poultry production. Sanderson Farms products also tested positive for residues of steroids, hormones, anti-inflammatory drugs and even ketamine, a drug with hallucinogenic effects.

The New York Times reported (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/05/opinion/kristof-arsenic-in-our-chicken.html) that most chicken feather-meal samples examined in one study contained Tylenol, one-third contained the antihistamine Benadryl, and samples from China actually contained Prozac. The FDA has caught hatcheries (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martha-rosenberg/big-pharma-secrets_b_1257150.html) injecting antibiotics directly into chicken eggs. Tyson Foods was caught injecting eggs with the dangerous human antibiotic (http://www.beasleyfirm.com/blog/2012/february/the-antibiotic-gentamycin-can-cause-hearing-loss/) gentamicin.

The Natural Resources Defense Council has reported (https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/03/dangerous-herbs-may-be-in-your-food-unlabeled/) the presence of the potentially dangerous herbs fo-ti, lobelia, kava kava and black cohosh in the U.S. food supply as well as strong the antihistamine hydroxyzine. Most of the ingredients are from suppliers in China.

Because the activities of Animal Pharma are so underreported, few Americans realize that most of the meat they eat is banned in other industrialized countries. One example is ractopamine (https://www.organicconsumers.org/blog/drugging-animals-factory-farms%E2%80%94enough-already), a controversial growth-promoting asthma-like drug marketed as Optaflexx for cattle, Paylean for pigs, and Topmax for turkeys and banned in the European Union, China and more than 100 other countries.

Also used in U.S. meat production (https://www.centerforhealthjournalism.org/2015/09/30/controversial-growth-drug-removed-some-pork) is Zilmax, a Merck drug (https://www.agweb.com/article/merck-animal-health-provides-update-on-zilmax-five-step-plan-announces-next-steps-news-release/) similar to ractopamine that the FDA linked (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-zilmax-merck-study-idUSBREA2B23720140312) to 285 cattle deaths during six years of administration. Seventy-five animals lost hooves, 94 developed pneumonia and 41 developed bloat in just two years, Reuters reported (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-zilmax-merck-cattle-special-report-idUSBRE9BT0NV20131230).

The European Union boycotts the U.S.' hormone-grown beef.

They routinely used synthetic hormones zeranol, trenbolone acetate and melengestrol acetate pose "increased risks of breast cancer and prostate cancer," says (https://ec.europa.eu/food/sites/food/files/safety/docs/cs_meat_hormone-out21_en.pdf) the European Commission's Scientific Committee on Veterinary Measures.

"Consumption of beef derived from Zeranol-implanted cattle may be a risk factor for breast cancer," according to an article (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21617224) in the journal Anticancer Research.

The European Union has also traditionally boycotted U.S. chickens because they are dipped in chlorine baths

Other germ-killing or germ-retarding chemicals routinely used in U.S. food production include (http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/17734) nitrites and nitrates in processed meat (declared carcinogens by the World Health Organization in 2016), the parasiticide formalin legally used (https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/contemporary-shrimp-production-poses-risks-consumers-and-environment) in shrimp production, and carbon monoxide to keep meat (http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/why-supermarket-meat-is-always-unnaturally-red/) looking red in the grocery store no matter how old it really is.

Many thought public revulsion at the ammonia puffs used to discourage E. Coli growth in the notorious beef-derived “pink slime” in 2012 forced the product into retirement.

According to the Center for Food Safety, Animal Pharma uses (http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/reports/4069/americas-secret-animal-drug-problem-how-lack-of-transparency-is-endangering-human-health-and-animal-welfare#showJoin) over 450 animal drugs, drug combinations and other feed additives “to promote growth of the animals and to suppress the negative effects that heavily-concentrated confinement has on farm animals.”

“growth production” had been removed from labels but the drugs are still routinely used for the new indication of “disease prevention.”

a Reuters investigation (http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/farmaceuticals-the-drugs-fed-to-farm-animals-and-the-risks-posed-to-humans/) found Tyson Foods, Pilgrim’s Pride, Perdue Farms, George’s and Koch Foods using antibiotics “more pervasively than regulators realize.” Pilgrim’s Pride’s feed mill records show the antibiotics bacitracin and monensin are added “to every ration fed to a flock grown early this year.” (Pilgrim’s Pride threatened legal action against Reuters for its finding.) Also caught red-handed using antibiotics, despite denying it on their website, was Koch Foods, a supplier to Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurants.

U.S. chickens continue to be fed with inorganic arsenic to produce quicker weight gain with less food (the same reason antibiotics are given) despite some public outcry (https://www.opednews.com/populum/page.php?f=A-Little-Arsenic-Never-Hur-by-Martha-Rosenberg-130621-227.html) a few years ago. Arsenic is also given to turkeys, hogs and chickens for enhanced color. Such use “contribute[s] to arsenic exposure in the U.S. population,”

Drug use in food animals will get worse, not better
There are two reasons drug residues in food animals will soon grow worse not better. In exchange for China agreeing to accept U.S. beef after a long hiatus, the U.S. agreed (http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2251832-us-beef-exports-to-china-will-resume-if-the-us-will-import-chinas-chickens/) to import cooked chickens from China. China’s food safety record is abysmal including rat meat sold as lamb, gutter oil sold as cooking oil, baby formula contaminated with melamine and frequent bird flu epidemics. Globalization dangers already exist with seafood, most of which comes from countries (https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/contemporary-shrimp-production-poses-risks-consumers-and-environment) that use chemicals and drugs banned in the U.S.

The second reason is the U.S. meat industry’s increasing move toward privatization and corporate self-policing—phasing out U.S. meat inspectors in favor of the “honor system.” USDA’s “New Poultry Inspection System” (NPIS) shamelessly allows (http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2017/06/watchdog-group-sues-usda-for-names-of-poultry-companies/#.WU1rJ1syefQ) poultry producers to switch to a voluntary program that allows for non-government poultry inspections. Such privatization deals are the wave of the future as federal meat inspectors are ignored (https://foodrevolution.org/blog/meat-inspectors-speak-out-but-government-doesnt-want-to-hear-them/) and phased out by the government.

After all, we are living with an administration that sees regulations as nothing more than an impediment to Big Ag’s cheap meat agenda.

http://www.alternet.org/food/why-eating-meat-america-going-trip-drug-store


BigCorp profit seeking is crapifying people, air, earth, water.

[boutons_deux]

BigCorp poisons plant foods, too. From a newsletter...
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"California has a major opportunity to ban a dangerous pesticide that damages children's brains, sickens farmworkers and communities living near farms, and is unsafe at any level.

Chlorpyrifos is sprayed on fruits and vegetables like strawberries, broccoli, apples, and oranges, and

it gets absorbed into the food -- which means that it can't simply be rinsed off.

When pregnant mothers have been exposed to chlorpyrifos, it’s been linked to autism, lower birth weight, and developmental delays in cognition, motor control, and attention in their children.

Exposure to chlorpyrifos can cause seizures, coma, and death. In May, the pesticide sickened 47 farmworkers in California.

Donald Trump stopped the Environmental Protection Agency from banning chlorpyrifos earlier this year,

[sickdsm]

BigCorp poisons plant foods, too. From a newsletter...
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"California has a major opportunity to ban a dangerous pesticide that damages children's brains, sickens farmworkers and communities living near farms, and is unsafe at any level.

Chlorpyrifos is sprayed on fruits and vegetables like strawberries, broccoli, apples, and oranges, and

it gets absorbed into the food -- which means that it can't simply be rinsed off.

When pregnant mothers have been exposed to chlorpyrifos, it’s been linked to autism, lower birth weight, and developmental delays in cognition, motor control, and attention in their children.

Exposure to chlorpyrifos can cause seizures, coma, and death. In May, the pesticide sickened 47 farmworkers in California.

Donald Trump stopped the Environmental Protection Agency from banning chlorpyrifos earlier this year,



Introduced in 1965........

What administration is to blame for this moderatly hazardous chemical again?

[SnakeBoy]

When I spray any sort of insecticide there is a pretty good chance I get sick. The way it's been described to me is that the insecticide s are the worst for health. Fungicides are second and herbicides are the least likely to make an applicator ill. I'd imagine the soap is not killing the insects but it's leaving an icky film on the plant. You are eating soap basically.Lots of insecticides kill on contact but leave no residual action behind.


Soap definitely kills the stink bugs that probe tomatoes and aphids. Soap is too basic for them I think. I have not watched if direct contact kills all the types of caterpillars. I might keep some caterpillars and grow them to moths like I used to, except spray them and watch. Only problem is I gotta go out of town for work too much and my wife is starting to refuse to help with my experiments. Imagine that...

Yeah soap definitely kills some some bugs but can burn plants too. Kaolin clay works pretty good at keeping the pests off of the plants. It doesn't kill anything just leaves a milky residue on the plant that bugs don't like. Goes by the name Surround WP

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Sperm counts among western men have halved in last 40 years – study

Reasons for the ‘shocking’ drop are unclear, say researchers, and represent a huge and neglected area of public health

research suggesting

links to body weight, (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/jul/09/fat.men)

a lack of physical activity (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/feb/04/active-men-higher-sperm-counts),

smoking (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2006/jul/03/familyandrelationships.healthandwellbeing), and

exposure of pregnant women to chemicals found in myriad household products, known as endocrine disruptors (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/may/12/sperm-swimming-navigational-skills-chemicals-endocrine-disruptors).

there is cause for concern around male reproductive function, pointing out that rates of testicular cancer are on the rise,

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jul/25/sperm-counts-among-western-men-have-halved-in-last-40-years-study?mc_cid=0e4be9d2e5&mc_eid=47e367557b (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jul/25/sperm-counts-among-western-men-have-halved-in-last-40-years-study?mc_cid=0e4be9d2e5&mc_eid=47e367557b)

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My guess is that lowered sperm counts, plus the apparent need for so many younger med to use dick hardeners, increasing rates of pre-term births, hypospadias, decreases infant male AGD that we, industrial societies, are being poisoned by BigChem and BigFood.

That's a bunch of extremely fundamental biology increasingly fucked up.

[boutons_deux]

A FDA-registered food safety laboratory tested iconic American food for residues of the weed killer glyphosate (aka Monsanto’s Roundup) and found ALARMING amounts.

Just to give you an idea of how outrageous these amounts are,

independent research shows that probable harm to human health begins at really low levels of exposure – at only 0.1 ppb of glyphosate (https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.fooddemocracynow.org/images/FDN_Glyphosate_FoodTesting_Report_p2016.pdf).

Many foods were found to have over 1,000 times this amount! Well above what regulators throughout the world consider “safe”.


https://foodbabe.com/app/uploads/2016/11/2016-11-14_1537.png


https://foodbabe.com/2016/11/15/monsanto/

[pgardn]

A FDA-registered food safety laboratory tested iconic American food for residues of the weed killer glyphosate (aka Monsanto’s Roundup) and found ALARMING amounts.

Just to give you an idea of how outrageous these amounts are,

independent research shows that probable harm to human health begins at really low levels of exposure – at only 0.1 ppb of glyphosate (https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.fooddemocracynow.org/images/FDN_Glyphosate_FoodTesting_Report_p2016.pdf).

Many foods were found to have over 1,000 times this amount! Well above what regulators throughout the world consider “safe”.


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https://foodbabe.com/2016/11/15/monsanto/

There is a ton of research that also shows it is NOT carcinogenic.
Give me ANY research that shows how this compound interacts with DNA.

It is nothing like any of the drugs/compounds that do chemically react with DNA in humans. It's structured completely wrong. The compound glycophophate inhibits plants from making amino acids important in producing protein. By interacting with a specific enzyme (that is a protein boots) contained in plant types that grow very rapidly (broadleaf weeds) . Which have in a number of cases become resistant to the compound which is a big problem.

So now we are going to make it carcinogenic because of other problems associated with it. Not even close to being conclusive. And just not structured properly to really be alarming. More testing...

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Plastic fibres found in tap water around the world, study reveals

Exclusive: Tests show billions of people globally are drinking water contaminated by plastic particles, with 83% of samples found to be polluted

The US had the highest contamination rate, at 94%, with plastic fibres found in tap watersampled at sites including Congress buildings, the US Environmental Protection Agency’s headquarters, and Trump Tower in New York.

Lebanon and India had the next highest rates.

European nations including the UK, Germany and France had the lowest contamination rate, but this was still 72%. The average number of fibres found in each 500ml sample ranged from 4.8 in the US to 1.9 in Europe (https://www.theguardian.com/world/europe-news).

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/5638c48f8f13c75fd6f1026713a301eebba3802c/0_8_4096_2458/master/4096.jpg?w=460&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&
The new analyses indicate the ubiquitous extent of microplastic contamination (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/feb/14/sea-to-plate-plastic-got-into-fish) in the global environment. Previous work has been largely focused on plastic pollution in the oceans, which suggests people are eating microplastics via contaminated seafood.

“We have enough data from looking at wildlife, and the impacts that it’s having on wildlife, to be concerned,” said Dr Sherri Mason, a microplastic expert at the State University of New York in Fredonia, who supervised the analyses for Orb.

“If it’s impacting [wildlife], then how do we think that it’s not going to somehow impact us?”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/06/plastic-fibres-found-tap-water-around-world-study-reveals

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Crofl foodbabe.com

Whats next Booboo, natural news?

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Crofl foodbabe.com

Whats next Booboo, natural news?

only the messenger, you deny the message

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This is UK, but there no reason to think this doesn't exist in USA


Cocktail of pesticide residues in fruit and vegetables given to schoolchildren


Traces of 123 pesticides, including those linked to cancer, hormone disruption and damage to brain development, have been found in fresh produce supplied to primary school children through a government scheme aimed at promoting healthy eating habits.


The research analysed the government’s own data from regular testing of fruit and vegetables by the Expert Committee on Pesticide Residues in Food (PRiF).

In two thirds of the samples tested, residues of more than one pesticide were detected, with some individual samples containing as many as thirteen different chemicals.

http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2989261/cocktail_of_pesticide_residues_in_fruit_and_vegeta bles_given_to_schoolchildren.html

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BigIdiot^

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I'm pretty sure this bullshit is prelude to Congress cutting payments to WHO cancer function, protecting BigChem

Congressional committee questions operation of WHO cancer agency

Two influential U.S. Congressmen have asked the World Health Organization’s cancer agency to get ready to testify about its work assessing if substances cause cancer, citing concerns about its “scientific integrity”.

Their letter to the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), seen by Reuters and sent on Wednesday, is part of ongoing investigations by two Congressional committees into IARC that were fueled by the agency’s review of glyphosate, the primary ingredient of Monsanto Co’s weedkiller Roundup.

A letter to IARC director Chris Wild from the Republican chairmen of the House Committee on Science and the Subcommittee on Environment said they are “concerned about the scientific integrity” of IARC’s “monograph” program, which assesses whether various substances can cause cancer in people.

In a second letter seen by Reuters, the Congressmen,

Lamar Smith :lol and

Andy Biggs :lol,

expressed concern that IARC’s assessment meetings, deliberations and drafts are not made public.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-who-congress-exclusive/exclusive-congressional-committee-questions-operation-of-who-cancer-agency-idUSKBN1D15TU?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FhealthNews+%28Reute rs+Health+News%29

yep, for sure Monsanto told the Repugs to go after WHO Cancer group for concluding Monsanto glyphosate causes cancer.

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16 Health Problems That Improved in Patients Who Switched From GMO to Organic Diets

A new study reveals the harsh reality of a diet filled with genetically modified foods.

Health problems that improved include:



Digestive: 85.2%
Fatigue, low energy: 60.4%
Overweight or obesity: 54.6%
Clouding of consciousness, “brain fog”: 51.7%
Food allergies or sensitivities: 50.2%
Mood problems, such as anxiety or depression: 51.1%
Memory, concentration: 48.1%
Joint pain: 47.5%
Seasonal allergies: 46.6%
Gluten sensitivities: 42.2%
Insomnia: 33.2%
Other skin conditions (not eczema): 30.9%
Hormonal problems: 30.4%
Musculoskeletal pain: 25.2%
Autoimmune disease: 21.4%
Eczema: 20.8%
Cardiovascular problems, including high blood pressure: 19.8%


In the article, I describe three ways in which GMOs may contribute to health problems:



The process of genetic modification itself damages DNA, which can add allergens, toxins, and anti-nutrients to food.
Most GM corn produces Bt toxin, an insecticide linked with allergies and gut damage.
All six major GMOs are engineered to be herbicide tolerant (HT)—to survive spray applications of weed killer. By far, the most widely grown HT crops are, produced by Monsanto to withstand treatments of Roundup.GMO foods, therefore containhigh residues of Roundup’s active ingredient glyphosate, which is classified as a “probable human carcinogen” by the World Health Organization’s International Agency for Research on Cancer. Roundup is also linked to a myriad of other serious diseases.


The article pays special attention to how the side effects of GMOs could lead to digestive disorders,

https://www.alternet.org/food/16-health-problems-improved-patients-who-switched-gmo-organic-diets

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Widespread chemical contaminants stunt growth of amphibians
https://phys.org/news/2017-11-widespread-chemical-contaminants-stunt-growth.html

... but BigChem says a 100 synthetic chemicals in human umbilical cord blood is harmless. Deal With It.

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Monsanto Giving Cash to Farmers Who Use Controversial Pesticide

The cash-back offer comes as several states are considering restrictions on the use of the drift-prone and highly volatile chemical.

Looks like Monsanto (https://www.ecowatch.com/tag/monsanto) really wants farmers to use XtendiMax. The agribusiness giant is offering a

cash incentive to farmers to apply a controversial pesticide linked to 3.1 million acres (https://www.croplife.com/crop-inputs/herbicides/dicamba-treadmill-herbicide-resistance/) of crop damage in nearly two dozen heartland states,

according to Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-pesticides-monsanto/monsanto-offers-cash-to-u-s-farmers-who-use-controversial-chemical-idUSKBN1E50EN).

The cash-back offer comes as several states are considering restrictions on the use of the drift-prone and highly volatile chemical. DuPont Co. and BASF SE also sell dicamba (https://www.ecowatch.com/tag/dicamba)-based formulations.

Monsanto could refund farmers about 50 percent of the price of its product, XtendiMax With VaporGrip Technology, in 2018 if they spray the product on the seed company's Xtend soybeans that are genetically engineered (https://www.ecowatch.com/gmo-genetically-modified-organism/) to tolerate dicamba.

Reuters reported:

XtendiMax costs about $11 per acre to buy, and Monsanto is offering $6 per acre in cash back to farmers when they apply it on Xtend soybeans along with other approved herbicides, according to the company.

“We believe cash-back incentives for using XtendiMax with VaporGrip Technology better enable growers to use a management system that represents the next level of weed control," said Ryan Rubischko, Monsanto product manager.


The herbicide is designed to beat back weeds on dicamba-resistant soy and cotton fields

but is highly damaging if it floats onto neighboring non-target crops.

Plants exposed to the chemical are left wrinkled, cupped or stunted in growth.

https://www.alternet.org/food/monsanto-giving-cash-farmers-who-use-controversial-pesticide