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ElNono
07-23-2015, 11:56 PM
N.J. Attorney General will not investigate police response to cop's shooting of ex-wife

FREEHOLD — The New Jersey Attorney General's Office will not take over the investigation into law enforcement's handling of a Neptune police officer's fatal shooting of his ex-wife in the presence of cops last month.

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On June 16 in broad daylight on an Asbury Park street, Seidle, 51, had fired off two rounds of shots at Tamara Seidle in the presence of Asbury Park and Neptune Township police officers who did not return fire. Seidle, a 22-year veteran of the Neptune Township Police Department, was well known to police officers and residents in neighboring Asbury Park.

At least one Asbury Park police officer was on the scene shortly after 11 a.m. when Seidle fired off the first round of shots from his service weapon at his ex-wife while she was in her car on Sewall Avenue, witnesses have said. Several more Asbury Park and Neptune officers had arrived before he fired a second round. While they all had their weapons trained on him, none of the officers fired at Seidle, witnesses said.

After holding police at bay while pointing a gun to his head, Seidle eventually surrendered to authorities.

A week after the shooting, acting Monmouth County Prosecutor Christopher Gramiccioni announced his office was conducting an investigation into whether the responding officers followed standard operating procedures under the circumstances.

Gramiccioni acknowledged the panel conducting the investigation – the Professional Responsibility Bureau – includes two former members of the Asbury Park Police Department. But Gramiccioni insisted their roles on the panel were not at a level where a conflict could arise.

On Wednesday, Gramiccioni said that when such an investigation occurs, his office is required to notify the attorney general's office within 72 hours and report any potential conflicts. He said his office complied with that requirement and received the all-clear to proceed with the investigation.

http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2015/07/nj_attorney_general_not_investigating_police_respo .html#incart_2box_monmouth_index.ssf

Winehole23
07-24-2015, 08:51 AM
100%. the guild seems to think itself better than the community it serves.

pgardn
07-24-2015, 09:28 AM
If they knew the deed was done and that he was most likely a danger only to himself, should we not applaud the restraint of not having multiple projectiles flying about?

The key seems to be knowing who you are dealing with. I would suggest the same would happen with any armed group of people if they knew the perp (especially given the sparse timeline concerning the chain of events in this incident)

boutons_deux
07-24-2015, 10:10 AM
100%. the guild seems to think itself better than the community it serves.

Blue Wall. Self-protecting

To Protect (Ourselves) and Serve (our psychoses)

ElNono
07-24-2015, 10:13 AM
If they knew the deed was done and that he was most likely a danger only to himself, should we not applaud the restraint of not having multiple projectiles flying about?

The key seems to be knowing who you are dealing with. I would suggest the same would happen with any armed group of people if they knew the perp (especially given the sparse timeline concerning the chain of events in this incident)

They didn't think the victim might need immediate medical attention? Who are these guys serving?

TheSanityAnnex
07-24-2015, 10:27 AM
It's got to be tough to kill your friend/acquaintance/workmate. I'm glad they didn't, killing him would have given him an easy way out. hope they put him in general population to be killed by the inmates.

pgardn
07-24-2015, 03:01 PM
They didn't think the victim might need immediate medical attention? Who are these guys serving?

If they knew the deed was done... First sentence.

And if not, they could have been telling him to back off we got an ambulance on the way. The report timeline is sparse as I said.

Clipper Nation
07-24-2015, 03:06 PM
ITT: Libs mad that policemen DIDN'T shoot someone.

boutons_deux
07-24-2015, 04:08 PM
ITT: Libs mad that policemen DIDN'T shoot someone.

You Lie

ElNono
07-24-2015, 06:09 PM
At the very least, it's gotta be negligence.... I would be shocked if the PD doesn't get sued to hell and back by the victim's family and any bystanders.