Infinite_limit
07-24-2015, 01:47 AM
QUOTE:
"I lived in Ukraine for 2 years, Moscow for 1 year. I met and married a beautiful Ukrainian woman. They are similar but I found Ukrainians have a better sense of humor and are more outgoing in general.
I would need a book, a large one, to tell you the difference and basically was tempted to throw rocks at American women after living there. Yes, they treat you like a King. But there are caveats. They are not subservient robots and they expect to be treated in kind. Most importantly, I mean MOST importantly, they will not tolerate abuse, verbal, physical or otherwise AT ALL!!!! It is absolutely forbidden for me to speak to my wife in other than a loving and kind way, ALWAYS. It is their BELIEF that men are stronger and superior to women (I am not here to argue, only say the truth of what they are like) and if this stronger and superior person can be reduced to screaming and yelling by a "mere, insignifigant" woman, he is not a man at all.
They absolutely demand 1000% loyalty. They must be #1 with you. They live in a society iwth 20% more women than men and they jealously guard a good husband when they get one. My wife and I do almost everything together. She is not posessive, but she would not tolerate the least amount of flirting with other women. It is OK to have a "friend" that is a woman, bu the "friend" line must be very plain and clear.
First, your husband needs to act like a man. He should not be discussing his "fond memories" I would NEVER discuss other women with my wife. She asks no questions, she is Ukrainian...she KNOWS, it is not discussed. It is OK to discuss cultural differences, they are very proud of the fact they are good wives, but not what you "did" with other women. OMG NO!!!! They know their country is full of beautiful devoted women and they KNOW about competition like no other nationality of women. A single man, particularly one from "the west" is gold. I speak Russian, but they can spot my accent in a second. If I sat at an outdoor cafe and ordered a "Coca-Cola Lite" before the drink came there would be 1 or 2 or 3 women sitting at my table and chatting me up. Finding dates is like falling off a log, even easier. So that kind of thing isn't discussed. Men who don't drink alcohol (not many) are highly regarded (I don't drink alcohol at all).
By the way, I met my wife on the bus and we had a normal dating relationship for 21 months before I proposed. She is not a "mail-order" bride and it is wrong to think most Russian women are, but they ARE friendly, warm, and outgoing (Ukrainians even more so) "meeting" them is not a problem. You can get a mail order bride, but you better know what you are in for. They are NOT for beginners. If you think you are marrying a subservient sex machine you are VERY wrong and your marriage will last about 2 weeks.
OK, so what do they do? Why are they wonderful? (skip to here if you want)
1. Their man is #1, the most important thing in the world to them and they care for you in that way. I must get up at 5 am. My wife gets up at 4:30, cooks me breakfast, makes me a lunch (no store bought food could be as good as what she makes) then comes and gently wakes me with kisses and "good words". She calls me at work 2-3 times a day to make sure "all is OK" and if i need anything she will drive to my job and bring it to me. She calls me at lunch to make sure the food she made was good and that I ate all of it (lunch is the most important meal of the day). If I eat early, I call her and thank her for the good food. (having good food is not something they always had, it is highly regarded) When I head home, I call her and dinner is ready when I arrive home. We eat together, usually with candles on the table. I help with dishes afterwards. They DO expect a man to do "man" things and help when he can.
2. They always look great! For one thing, there is a high percentage of beautiful women in Russia and Ukraine, it is incredible. But also they NEVER go out of the house unless they look beautiful and they always look beautiful for their man. My wife wants me to say how I like her hair, her clothes, her make-up. She wants to look good for me and it makes her feel good. In return I make her feel desireable. Don't even think you can go through life without complimenting your woman and telling her how wonderful and beautiful she is many times a day. And ONLY your wife is "beautiful" this is a very powerful word and means "most beautiful of all". Other women are "attractive", only SHE can be beautiful for you. I never "notice" other women, but she does, and will point them out. I say "Yes, she is very attractive" That better be the end of it!!!
3. They generally don't want to work outsode the house, even thought they are usually highly educated (my wife has a masters degree and speaks four languages) and they are NOT lazy. Their DREAM in life is to have a husband, children and cozy home to care for, even if it is a tiny 2 room "flat". They are NOT materialistic and their husband and children get all before them. BUT they absolutley love gifts and presents. But they are not demanding. Most never dreamed of having a car, a dishwasher, a washing machine, 24 hour hot water. In a normal American home they are quite happy. A normal American life is quite luxurious to most Russian and Ukrainian women. They LOVE nice clothes but don't need many. My wife has 8 pairs of shoes and thinks it is "excessive" she has asked if now I will "run away" because she has "so many" shoes. )) She grew up with a family of four in a flat the size of our living room now. You think she is happy? She thinks our small (by American standards) house is about all she can care for properly.
4. They ENJOY, crave, to look like and feel like women. They are very feminine. My wife will not wear (or own) sweat pants, sweat shirt. Tennis shoes are for tennis. She wears heels, stockings (no pantyhose) lace underwear, perfume, very attractive, sexy (but not slutty) clothes, mostly skirts or dresses but also jeans and tops, but very attractive ones, not "t-shirts". ALL of her night wear is attractive or sexy. No flannel bags, no sweats. The night gown is for wearing around the house, she sleeps naked, and holds me all night.
We never spend a night apart. They want their man to look good, it is a reflection on them if you don't. She cares for my clothes, irons my jeans (!!!!) and checks me out before we go somewhere. If I don't look good, she doesn't look good.
5. Sexually, ah yes, you knew I would get to that. In general, they never refuse their man, EVER. It is the MAN's resposibility to be, well, responsible. I would never initiate ( I never "ask") sex when she is feeling ill. She would not refuse me, I promise, but she would think I am abusive and not considering her. As I said, this is NOT a one way street. With privilege comes responsibility. She is open to any sexual act and will try anything (except other people) and when she knows what gives her man pleasure, she offers it willingly and enthusiastically. Remember they receive TRUE pleasure from giving pleasure to their man. She likes sex also! They are not quiet in bed! Very vocal. Sex is frequent, enthusiastic, varied and basically mind-blowing quality! SHE expects her man to be a good lover and satisfy her also and to treat her like a princess. I give her a bath several times a week, wash her hair, put her lotion on her. She gives herself to me completely and expects to be pleased the same way.
6. They NEVER argue. They expect their man to consider their opinion and listen to them. BUT it is the man's job to make the decisions. When I decide something, it is decided there is no question, no argueing, no hard feelings. It is their BELIEF it must be this way because the man always has the best interests of the family in mind, not her "selfish" concerns, and even if she does not agree she BELIEVES I have made the best decision. She does not harbor any resentment, IF I at least consider her thoughts. BUT if you think it is wonderful, it is also an awesome responsibility. If I do NOT make decisions and DO the things I need to, she will have no use for me. I MUST do what a man should do. It is my job to relieve her of responsibilities, not boss her around. If you think for one second a man can boss around a Russian/Ukrainian woman...wow, have you got another thing coming! She EXPECTS to have everything she "needs" and things she "wants" if it is possible. She expects me to do anything I CAN do for her and the family and not complain, just like she does.
7. I think a Russian/Urkainian woman would rather cut off her arms and legs than cheat on a good man. They just WILL NOT! They won't do it. As fantastically beautiful as she is, as outgoing and friendly as she is, I am absolutely secure. Not only would she not cheat, she won't even do anything to make me suspicious. Oh...she demands the same from me."
"I lived in Ukraine for 2 years, Moscow for 1 year. I met and married a beautiful Ukrainian woman. They are similar but I found Ukrainians have a better sense of humor and are more outgoing in general.
I would need a book, a large one, to tell you the difference and basically was tempted to throw rocks at American women after living there. Yes, they treat you like a King. But there are caveats. They are not subservient robots and they expect to be treated in kind. Most importantly, I mean MOST importantly, they will not tolerate abuse, verbal, physical or otherwise AT ALL!!!! It is absolutely forbidden for me to speak to my wife in other than a loving and kind way, ALWAYS. It is their BELIEF that men are stronger and superior to women (I am not here to argue, only say the truth of what they are like) and if this stronger and superior person can be reduced to screaming and yelling by a "mere, insignifigant" woman, he is not a man at all.
They absolutely demand 1000% loyalty. They must be #1 with you. They live in a society iwth 20% more women than men and they jealously guard a good husband when they get one. My wife and I do almost everything together. She is not posessive, but she would not tolerate the least amount of flirting with other women. It is OK to have a "friend" that is a woman, bu the "friend" line must be very plain and clear.
First, your husband needs to act like a man. He should not be discussing his "fond memories" I would NEVER discuss other women with my wife. She asks no questions, she is Ukrainian...she KNOWS, it is not discussed. It is OK to discuss cultural differences, they are very proud of the fact they are good wives, but not what you "did" with other women. OMG NO!!!! They know their country is full of beautiful devoted women and they KNOW about competition like no other nationality of women. A single man, particularly one from "the west" is gold. I speak Russian, but they can spot my accent in a second. If I sat at an outdoor cafe and ordered a "Coca-Cola Lite" before the drink came there would be 1 or 2 or 3 women sitting at my table and chatting me up. Finding dates is like falling off a log, even easier. So that kind of thing isn't discussed. Men who don't drink alcohol (not many) are highly regarded (I don't drink alcohol at all).
By the way, I met my wife on the bus and we had a normal dating relationship for 21 months before I proposed. She is not a "mail-order" bride and it is wrong to think most Russian women are, but they ARE friendly, warm, and outgoing (Ukrainians even more so) "meeting" them is not a problem. You can get a mail order bride, but you better know what you are in for. They are NOT for beginners. If you think you are marrying a subservient sex machine you are VERY wrong and your marriage will last about 2 weeks.
OK, so what do they do? Why are they wonderful? (skip to here if you want)
1. Their man is #1, the most important thing in the world to them and they care for you in that way. I must get up at 5 am. My wife gets up at 4:30, cooks me breakfast, makes me a lunch (no store bought food could be as good as what she makes) then comes and gently wakes me with kisses and "good words". She calls me at work 2-3 times a day to make sure "all is OK" and if i need anything she will drive to my job and bring it to me. She calls me at lunch to make sure the food she made was good and that I ate all of it (lunch is the most important meal of the day). If I eat early, I call her and thank her for the good food. (having good food is not something they always had, it is highly regarded) When I head home, I call her and dinner is ready when I arrive home. We eat together, usually with candles on the table. I help with dishes afterwards. They DO expect a man to do "man" things and help when he can.
2. They always look great! For one thing, there is a high percentage of beautiful women in Russia and Ukraine, it is incredible. But also they NEVER go out of the house unless they look beautiful and they always look beautiful for their man. My wife wants me to say how I like her hair, her clothes, her make-up. She wants to look good for me and it makes her feel good. In return I make her feel desireable. Don't even think you can go through life without complimenting your woman and telling her how wonderful and beautiful she is many times a day. And ONLY your wife is "beautiful" this is a very powerful word and means "most beautiful of all". Other women are "attractive", only SHE can be beautiful for you. I never "notice" other women, but she does, and will point them out. I say "Yes, she is very attractive" That better be the end of it!!!
3. They generally don't want to work outsode the house, even thought they are usually highly educated (my wife has a masters degree and speaks four languages) and they are NOT lazy. Their DREAM in life is to have a husband, children and cozy home to care for, even if it is a tiny 2 room "flat". They are NOT materialistic and their husband and children get all before them. BUT they absolutley love gifts and presents. But they are not demanding. Most never dreamed of having a car, a dishwasher, a washing machine, 24 hour hot water. In a normal American home they are quite happy. A normal American life is quite luxurious to most Russian and Ukrainian women. They LOVE nice clothes but don't need many. My wife has 8 pairs of shoes and thinks it is "excessive" she has asked if now I will "run away" because she has "so many" shoes. )) She grew up with a family of four in a flat the size of our living room now. You think she is happy? She thinks our small (by American standards) house is about all she can care for properly.
4. They ENJOY, crave, to look like and feel like women. They are very feminine. My wife will not wear (or own) sweat pants, sweat shirt. Tennis shoes are for tennis. She wears heels, stockings (no pantyhose) lace underwear, perfume, very attractive, sexy (but not slutty) clothes, mostly skirts or dresses but also jeans and tops, but very attractive ones, not "t-shirts". ALL of her night wear is attractive or sexy. No flannel bags, no sweats. The night gown is for wearing around the house, she sleeps naked, and holds me all night.
We never spend a night apart. They want their man to look good, it is a reflection on them if you don't. She cares for my clothes, irons my jeans (!!!!) and checks me out before we go somewhere. If I don't look good, she doesn't look good.
5. Sexually, ah yes, you knew I would get to that. In general, they never refuse their man, EVER. It is the MAN's resposibility to be, well, responsible. I would never initiate ( I never "ask") sex when she is feeling ill. She would not refuse me, I promise, but she would think I am abusive and not considering her. As I said, this is NOT a one way street. With privilege comes responsibility. She is open to any sexual act and will try anything (except other people) and when she knows what gives her man pleasure, she offers it willingly and enthusiastically. Remember they receive TRUE pleasure from giving pleasure to their man. She likes sex also! They are not quiet in bed! Very vocal. Sex is frequent, enthusiastic, varied and basically mind-blowing quality! SHE expects her man to be a good lover and satisfy her also and to treat her like a princess. I give her a bath several times a week, wash her hair, put her lotion on her. She gives herself to me completely and expects to be pleased the same way.
6. They NEVER argue. They expect their man to consider their opinion and listen to them. BUT it is the man's job to make the decisions. When I decide something, it is decided there is no question, no argueing, no hard feelings. It is their BELIEF it must be this way because the man always has the best interests of the family in mind, not her "selfish" concerns, and even if she does not agree she BELIEVES I have made the best decision. She does not harbor any resentment, IF I at least consider her thoughts. BUT if you think it is wonderful, it is also an awesome responsibility. If I do NOT make decisions and DO the things I need to, she will have no use for me. I MUST do what a man should do. It is my job to relieve her of responsibilities, not boss her around. If you think for one second a man can boss around a Russian/Ukrainian woman...wow, have you got another thing coming! She EXPECTS to have everything she "needs" and things she "wants" if it is possible. She expects me to do anything I CAN do for her and the family and not complain, just like she does.
7. I think a Russian/Urkainian woman would rather cut off her arms and legs than cheat on a good man. They just WILL NOT! They won't do it. As fantastically beautiful as she is, as outgoing and friendly as she is, I am absolutely secure. Not only would she not cheat, she won't even do anything to make me suspicious. Oh...she demands the same from me."