Put Flacco on the Seahawks...

[Clipper Nation]

...how many points do they win the Super Bowl by last season? I say at least 20.

No way Joe Bags disappears for two whole quarters of the game like Struggle did. With a shittier team around him, he dropped 4 TDs and 31 points on the Patriots and put the fear of God into them in Foxboro. Now imagine if he had Lynch and the best defense in the game instead of Torrey "Faggot Quitter" Smith and one of the worst secondaries in football.

http://i.imgur.com/CQJsJx9.jpg

[Kool Bob Love]

Wasn't he carried to a ring by Ray Lewis?

[Clipper Nation]

Wasn't he carried to a ring by Ray Lewis?
Nope. He put up statistically the best playoff run by any quarterback since Montana.



Wild Card Round: Flacco completes just 12 passes, but he throws for 282 yards (12.3 yards per attempt), two scores and zero interceptions in a 24-9 win over the Indianapolis Colts (http://bleacherreport.com/indianapolis-colts). Trailing 10-6 heading into the half, Flacco tosses two scores over the final 30 minutes to lead the Ravens back. Baltimore overcomes nine penalties and two lost fumbles from Ray Rice to win comfortably.



Divisional Round: Despite facing four different deficits, Flacco helps the Ravens rally in overtime and beat the Denver Broncos (http://bleacherreport.com/denver-broncos), 38-35. Among Flacco's 331 yards and three scores was the Ravens' defining moment of the postseason, a long heave that Jacoby Jones ran in for the tying, 70-yard score with 31 seconds left in regulation.



AFC Championship Game: For the second straight season, Flacco thoroughly outplayed Brady at his own house in the AFC title game. This time around, the Ravens confidently strutted past the Patriots (http://bleacherreport.com/new-england-patriots) and into the Super Bowl. Flacco completed 21 passes for 240 yards, three scores and zero picks. All three of Flacco's touchdowns came in the second half as Baltimore cruised, 28-13.



Super Bowl XLVII: The Ravens blazed out to leads of 21-3 and 28-6, thanks mostly to Flacco's three first-half touchdown passes. While Baltimore managed just two second-half field goals, Flacco made a handful of big throws to extend drives and stymie the 49ers (http://bleacherreport.com/san-francisco-49ers)' rally. The Ravens held on for a 34-31 win, and Flacco (22-of-33, 287 yards, three touchdowns) was named Super Bowl MVP.


Joe Bags :worthy:

[Avante]

Now do this......

Since you obviously don't know, Google Flacco's first three seasons stats vs Wilson's first three seasons stats ok little man? That's how you compare athletes ya dumb fuck, alright? STAGE OF A CAREER...ok idiot?

Really, go look at how badly Flacco stacks up vs Wilson in his first three seasons, go ahead check it out. To compare a three year cat vs a 10 year vet is what a dummy would do.

Sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~

[Clipper Nation]

Flacco = most road playoff wins of any QB in history. Can Struggle do that?

[Avante]

Flacco = most road playoff wins of any QB in history. Can Struggle do that?

Now think moron. Why is Flacco having to play on the road in the playoffs, well?

I noticed you totally ignored everything I said, sheesh~~~~~~~

Dude, where was Flacco at after just three seasons compared to RW, how about answering the question, ok? He won less games, had less playoff success, his stats were inferior, go ahead check it out.

[Clipper Nation]

Now think moron. Why is Flacco having to play on the road in the playoffs, well?
He doesn't blow his load in the regular season, and he doesn't have mega-stacked teams around him.


I noticed you totally ignored everything I said, sheesh~~~~~~~
Mainly because you're a faggot.

Speaking of ignoring, you've ignored my question. How many points would Seattle have won by with Flacco instead of Struggle?

[SuperCam]

Flacco has won games in which his defense has given up more than 24. Game managing faggot has not. End of discussion

[spurraider21]

Flacco has won games in which his defense has given up more than 24. Game managing faggot has not. End of discussion
Wilson is 0-5 in such games

Flacco is 10-20

to anybody with half a brain, the sample size for wilson is too small to make a judgment

[Avante]

He doesn't blow his load in the regular season, and he doesn't have mega-stacked teams around him.


Mainly because you're a faggot.

Speaking of ignoring, you've ignored my question. How many points would Seattle have won by with Flacco instead of Struggle?

I;ll try again...

Hey stupid do you understand.....SAME LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE...at all ya dumb fuck?

Clipper Nation give me the name of any QB ever who matchs what RW has done in three seasons, ok? Clipper Nation how about actually answering a question, you can do it. Now tell me faggot what NFL QB did more in their first three seasons than RW, well?

Watch this queer totally ignore that question again, sheesh~~~~~~

[Clipper Nation]

I;ll try again...

Hey stupid do you understand.....SAME LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE...at all ya dumb fuck?

Clipper Nation give me the name of any QB ever who matchs what RW has done in three seasons, ok? Clipper Nation how about actually answering a question, you can do it. Now tell me faggot what NFL QB did more in their first three seasons than RW, well?

Watch this queer totally ignore that question again, sheesh~~~~~~
Answer my question and I'll answer yours.

[SuperCam]

Wilson is 0-5 in such games

Flacco is 10-20

to anybody with half a brain, the sample size for wilson is too small to make a judgment


Small sample three years zero wins :lol

:cry "give him more time seven isn't enough" :cry

It's 0-7, playoffs count, and game manager can't win without his defense carrying the day.


There isn't an elite, hell, not even above average, QB in the history of this league who hasn't won one fuckin' game in his career where his defense gives up more than 24. This fraud is going to cripple a franchise once he costs them pieces on defense

[spurraider21]

he's been fine. when you compare their receiving talent to their running back, its clear they're going to be a run-heavy team... he's still been an efficient passer. the lowest QB Rating of his career (95 in 2014) is better than Cam's best season, for instance.

you can say "haha 0-7 derp" without taking context of games into consideration (like leading 3 TD drives to come back against atlanta, only for ATL to get into field goal range in about 18 seconds of game time :lol. Seahawks scored their last TD with 31 seconds left, and the Flacons were able to get to field goal range with 13 seconds on the clock)

[Clipper Nation]

Wilson is 0-5 in such games

Flacco is 10-20

to anybody with half a brain, the sample size for wilson is too small to make a judgment
He's benefited from a mega-stacked defense that doesn't give up that many points too often. If he was as great as advertised, he could bail out his defense at least once when they have a bad game - something actual franchise QBs have to do all the time.

[SuperCam]

He has a high passer rating because he never needs to take risky passes. That is the reason everyone is talking about, and you're acting like that somehow is a point in his favor. He can make wide open passes all day because they are doing ball control so often thanks to the elite D, with beastmode drawing so much attention himself. The little faggot never has to carry the team on his back with a passing game like the QBs you compare him to, so his rating stays intact. Very much like some scrub NBA player who shoots 40%+ on threes because he takes so few of them and is wide wide open.

Nothing is more telling that the few times he's actually been relied on to save the team with a passing attack, he's failed literally every single time.

[spurraider21]

He's benefited from a mega-stacked defense that doesn't give up that many points too often. If he was as great as advertised, he could bail out his defense at least once when they have a bad game - something actual franchise QBs have to do all the time.
in flacco's rookie year he threw for 2900 yards, 14 TD's, 12 picks, and 80 QB Rating, and then he got 2 of his famed "road playoff wins" by:

throwing 9/23 (39%) for 135 yards with no touchdowns
throwing 11-22 (50%) for 161 yards and 1 TD

and that whole season they made the playoffs riding on a defense that was allowing 15 ppg

in wilson's rookie year, his playoff LOSS came in a game where he threw 24-36 for 385 yards, ran for 60, and scored 3 TD's (2 passing, 1 rushing). basically, he outplayed any of flacco's rookie playoff wins, but all you look at is "haha lol 0-7 he cant carry shit"

[spurraider21]

He has a high passer rating because he never needs to take risky passes. That is the reason everyone is talking about, and you're acting like that somehow is a point in his favor. He can make wide open passes all day because they are doing ball control so often thanks to the elite D, with beastmode drawing so much attention himself. The little faggot never has to carry the team on his back with a passing game like the QBs you compare him to, so his rating stays intact. Very much like some scrub NBA player who shoots 40%+ on threes because he takes so few of them and is wide wide open.

Nothing is more telling that the few times he's actually been relied on to save the team with a passing attack, he's failed literally every single time.
you aren't going to take that many games over through the air with Doug Bladwin, Jermaine Kearse, and Luke Wilson. he's made plenty of high difficulty throws, game winning throws, etc. it just makes no sense to go pass-heavy given their receivers and their running back

[Avante]

Answer my question and I'll answer yours.

Flacco with three years experience wouldn't have done as good as RW has, so..0.

Now answer my questions.

[Clipper Nation]

Flacco with three years experience wouldn't have done as good as RW has, so..0.

That's not an answer to my question. Put Flacco - not Flacco from five years ago - on the Seahawks and how much do they win by?

[Avante]

That's not an answer to my question. Put Flacco - not Flacco from five years ago - on the Seahawks and how much do they win by?

There is a reason the players in the league have Flacco ranked 97 with RW at 22, ya reckon?

Flacco wouldn't do as well as RW does in that system, he would be a downgrade. Flacco isn't has talented as RW.

[Clipper Nation]

Flacco isn't has talented as RW.

http://i.imgur.com/ogbetMI.gif

[Avante]

http://i.imgur.com/ogbetMI.gif


Why not take just a few minutes and actually bone up on this stuff for once, ok? Look at their stats, tell me what you see there.

Once again why did the NFL players vote Flacco 97 and RW 22, answer the question.

I'll go slow...

When you compare athletes it's done by comparing the same experience level, ok dummy? Who compares a high school kid to an NCAA athlete....well? Who compares a college footballer to a pro, well? And once a pro you look at same number of years experience.

Damn you're dumb.

[JohnnyZ]

Oh hell yes put Flacco on the Seahawks over Wilson, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[spurraider21]

:lol Clipper Nation (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)
:lol joe sharona
:lol but he had that 4 good games in 2012!

[JohnnyZ]

:lol Clipper Nation (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)
:lol joe sharona
:lol but he had that 4 good games in 2012!

He;ll ignore this thread.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Clipper Nation (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)
:lol joe sharona
:lol but he had that 4 good games in 2012!
Joe Bags: Super Bowl MVP for his own team
Struggle: Super Bowl MVP for the opposing team

[AaronY]

What is Flacco's contract like? What will they do with him in the off-season if they go with Jackson?

[djohn2oo8]

Lol this thread

[spurraider21]

Joe Bags: Super Bowl MVP for his own team
Struggle: Super Bowl MVP for the opposing team
Flacco lost his starting job to Slim Tebow while Wilson has the seahawks in playoff position in a season when everybody thought Seattle was supposed to be bottoming out

[Will Hunting]

:lol “Slim Tebow”

Sorry Clipper Nation but Joe Bags has been way too mediocre since his Super Bowl, Wilson is way better. Wilson’s supporting cast isn’t as bad as some people claim it is but it’s bad enough that it requires pro bowl level QB play to be a competitive team.

[SuperCam]

lamar >>> flucco tbh

[spurraider21]

:lol “Slim Tebow”

Sorry Clipper Nation but Joe Bags has been way too mediocre since his Super Bowl, Wilson is way better. Wilson’s supporting cast isn’t as bad as some people claim it is but it’s bad enough that it requires pro bowl level QB play to be a competitive team.
you really think Shtick Nation gives a shit? he's going to take this crap to the grave tbh

and lol mediocre. dude's been garbage since the super bowl... passer rating is usually a fluff stat in this inflated era, and Flacco's passer ratings by season since the SB win: 73, 91, 83, 84, 80, and 84.

we are in a season where QB's have astronomical completion %'s. Cum is a career 59% guy who is completing 69% this year.

Flacco is at 61.2% with an abysmal 6.5 yards per attempt. the only qualifying QB's with lower Y/A are Josh Allen and Josh Rosen. his Y/A since the SB by season? 6.4, 6.2, 6.8, 6.4, 5.7, 6.5

dude's complete trash and an immobile stiff. baltimore has been a "darkhorse" pick to be good for the past 3-4 years and they're always in the shitter because of flacco. his career legacy is just going to be a shitty eli manning but with only 1 SB

[SuperCam]

is Cripple the last spurtalk holdout denying Wilson's eliteness? Even Robz and those dallas/pats fans came around...

[JohnnyZ]

is Cripple the last spurtalk holdout denying Wilson's eliteness? Even Robz and those dallas/pats fans came around...

Super bowl champ
NFL records
NFL firsts
Nobody has ever won more games in a seven year career
Multi time pro bowler/MVP
Twice in the MVP talk

That is a....struggle......really?

Led the NFL in TD passes
Led the NFL in passer rating....110.1

struggle???

[Blake]

Well you struggle with your weight

[Will Hunting]

you really think Shtick Nation gives a shit? he's going to take this crap to the grave tbh

and lol mediocre. dude's been garbage since the super bowl... passer rating is usually a fluff stat in this inflated era, and Flacco's passer ratings by season since the SB win: 73, 91, 83, 84, 80, and 84.

we are in a season where QB's have astronomical completion %'s. Cum is a career 59% guy who is completing 69% this year.

Flacco is at 61.2% with an abysmal 6.5 yards per attempt. the only qualifying QB's with lower Y/A are Josh Allen and Josh Rosen. his Y/A since the SB by season? 6.4, 6.2, 6.8, 6.4, 5.7, 6.5

dude's complete trash and an immobile stiff. baltimore has been a "darkhorse" pick to be good for the past 3-4 years and they're always in the shitter because of flacco. his career legacy is just going to be a shitty eli manning but with only 1 SB
You misunderstood what I meant by mediocre :lol

[Mark Celibate]

yeah I hated Chatterjee his first few years because of all the slobbing he got from the media when he could only complete screen passes or pre-designed "pick" plays, all while being carried by an all time defense. some of his other theatrical bullshit was annoying too (i.e. crying tears of joy like he was the MVP in the NFCCG after throwing 4 picks, etc)

gotta give credit where credit is due tho. he's definitely put in the time, and is easily a Top 10 QB in the league at this point.

Hopefully the same kind of improvement can happen with Dak. He's also an uncle Tom who appears to be a square, so maybe there's hope for him to put in the work and get the same improvement. Chatterjee was still pretty shitty in year 3 as well

[Millennial_Messiah]

Put Flacco on Seattle and he'd average 9 sacks per game behind that dreadful offensive line over the past 5 years

[Will Hunting]

Put Flacco on Seattle and he'd average 9 sacks per game behind that dreadful offensive line over the past 5 years
Yeah this is a myth that overhypes Wilson. His offensive line isn’t great or anything but it isn’t he terrible abomination that people say it is. A lot of Wilson’s sacks are due to him holding onto the ball too long.

[Rosewood]

Yeah this is a myth that overhypes Wilson. His offensive line isn’t great or anything but it isn’t he terrible abomination that people say it is. A lot of Wilson’s sacks are due to him holding onto the ball too long. A problem with Dak Prescott too, they want to do too much.

Wilson is a good QB.

[spurraider21]

Yeah this is a myth that overhypes Wilson. His offensive line isn’t great or anything but it isn’t he terrible abomination that people say it is. A lot of Wilson’s sacks are due to him holding onto the ball too long.
it's not that bad anymore. there was a 2-3 period stretch where they were the worst pass protecting OL in the league maybe outside of indy. then trading unger fucked their run game too

[Sir Johnny]

Wonder where the Ravens will dump Flacco, boy the Seahawks sure could have used this loser, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~

[spurraider21]

:lmao broncos trade for flacco
:lmao elway

[FrostKing]

Broncos automatically better than Ravens

[Sir Johnny]

I can't believe the Seahawks didn't try to get him, what in the hell are they thinking? Fuck, now stuck with Russell Wilson, sheesh~~~~~~~~~