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Splits
07-28-2015, 05:57 PM
USA! USA!


Cecil the lion's killer revealed as American dentist


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Cecil the lion – the most famous creature in one of Zimbabwe (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/)'s national parks – was killed by an American hunter who has boasted about shooting a menagerie of animals with his bow and arrow, The Telegraph can reveal.

Walter James Palmer, a dentist from Minnesota, is believed to have paid £35,000 to shoot and kill the much-loved lion (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/11764395/Zimbabwes-favourite-lion-Cecil-killed-by-hunter-from-North-America.html) with a bow and arrow. The animal was shot on July 1 in Hwange National Park. Two independent sources have confirmed the hunter's identity to the paper, which has also seen a copy of the relevant hunting permit.

Conservation groups in Zimbabwe reacted angrily to the news that the 13-year-old animal had been killed: partly because the lion was known to visitors and seemingly enjoyed human contact, and partly because of the way in which he was killed. He was lured out of the national park and shot.

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During the hunt – which the organisers later admitted was badly carried out – it was alleged that Cecil was lured at night about half a mile out of the national park using bait, and then shot with a bow and arrow. The next day he was found wounded by the hunters and killed, before being beheaded and skinned.

Animals cannot be killed within the confines of the park. The hunters then removed his collar – further contravening park rules.

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Dr Andrew Loveridge, one of the principal researchers on the project, told the publication that Cecil and another male lion named Jericho led two prides with six lionesses and a dozen young cubs, and he feared for the safety of the cubs now Cecil had been killed (http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2015/07/21/death-of-zimbabwes-best-loved-lion-ignites-debate-on-sport-hunting/).

"Jericho as a single male will be unable to defend the two prides and cubs from new males that invade the territory. This is what we most often see happening in these cases. Infanticide is the most likely outcome," he said.



Other AWESOME kills by hero Walt Palmer:

Leopard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nevada Bighorn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Roosevelt Elk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The almost-extinct White Rhino!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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USA! USA!

spurraider21
07-28-2015, 06:40 PM
alpha

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 07:12 PM
Did he obtain the same type of hunting permit that blonde chick did that everyone was crying about? I'd never hunt these animals cause personally I think it's fucked up but these limited, expensive permits keep these parks afloat and keep waaaay more animals alive than the few killed each year. The money from these permits is also used to build fences around area farmers properties so their livestock isn't killed by lions, tigers, etc and the meat from these permitted kills goes to feed the villages.

Splits fail per par.

SupremeGuy
07-28-2015, 07:56 PM
Did he obtain the same type of hunting permit that blonde chick did that everyone was crying about? I'd never hunt these animals cause personally I think it's fucked up but these limited, expensive permits keep these parks afloat and keep waaaay more animals alive than the few killed each year. The money from these permits is also used to build fences around area farmers properties so their livestock isn't killed by lions, tigers, etc and the meat from these permitted kills goes to feed the villages.

Splits fail per par.Get your logic out of here! It's going to burn split's eyes and melt his mind.

InRareForm
07-28-2015, 08:11 PM
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/yelp-poacher/

Splits
07-28-2015, 08:13 PM
Did he obtain the same type of hunting permit that blonde chick did that everyone was crying about? I'd never hunt these animals cause personally I think it's fucked up but these limited, expensive permits keep these parks afloat and keep waaaay more animals alive than the few killed each year. The money from these permits is also used to build fences around area farmers properties so their livestock isn't killed by lions, tigers, etc and the meat from these permitted kills goes to feed the villages.

Splits fail per par.

First of all, I have no idea who this blonde chick is you're referring to.

Second, the argument "we have to kill em to keep them alive" makes about as much sense as "we need guns in schools to.... " never mind, you'll never accept logic.

And thirdly, Cecil was intentionally kept on a reserve until he was lured out by these faggots hanging dead carcasses from trees so they could kill him. So no, there was no fucking fence paid for you fucking idiot.

Luckily, this faggot is now an international fugitive

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boutons_deux
07-28-2015, 08:20 PM
asshole

InRareForm
07-28-2015, 08:35 PM
fuck that bitch ass dentist

Splits
07-28-2015, 08:38 PM
Big surprise, the dentist maxed out Romney in '12:

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Trill Clinton
07-28-2015, 08:47 PM
What a coward. Him and those poachers can burn in hell for that.

lefty
07-28-2015, 08:49 PM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/a6/a6e872a3a830f127c07f0e3c045c40d100ffbdd699a8c3a854 648097f0226bee.jpg

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 08:52 PM
We can agree on him being a faggot, but he said he thought he was doing it legally, could have been misled by the tour guides for all we know. Whatever though, he is a faggot. Now let's move on and look at how fucking stupid your next statement is when in fact killing them does keep them alive.




Second, the argument "we have to kill em to keep them alive" makes about as much sense as "we need guns in schools to.... " never mind, you'll never accept logic.




http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/

Can trophy hunting ever be a useful tool in the conservationist’s toolbox? On the surface, the answer would appear obvious. It seems as if the killing of an animal – especially an endangered one – for sport is directly contradictory to the goal of ensuring the survival of a species. The question has been asked again following the auction last Saturday night of the right to hunt an endangered black rhinoceros (Diceros bicornis) in Namibia. And the answer, as usual, is more complicated.
The permit was sold for $350,000, well above the previous high bid for a permit in that country, $223,000. While the Dallas Safari Club had the dubious distinction of being the first organization to hold such an auction outside of Namibia itself, it’s fairly unremarkable and actually quite common for an African nation to sell permits for trophy hunting, even for endangered species. Indeed, both Namibia and South Africa are legally permitted (http://www.cites.org/eng/res/13/13-05R14C15.php) by the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) to sell five permits for the hunting of adult male black rhinos each year.
And it’s not just rhinos. For example, a 2000 report from TRAFFIC (http://www.traffic.org/general-reports/traffic_pub_gen8.pdf), an organization that works with the WWF, IUCN, and CITES to track the international trade of wildlife, describes how Namibia alone was the site of almost 16,000 trophy hunts that year. Those 16,000 animals represent a wide variety of species – birds, reptiles, mammals, and even primates – both endangered and not. They include four of the so-called “big five” popular African game: lion, Cape buffalo, leopard, and rhinoceros. (Only the elephant was missing.) The hunters brought eleven million US dollars with them to spend in the Namibian economy. And that doesn’t include revenue from non-trophy recreational hunting activities, which are limited to four species classified as of “least concern” by the IUCN: Greater Kudu, Gemsbok, Springbok and Warthog.
The issues here are complex and highly politicized. There are several questions that science can’t help address, primary of which is whether or not the money raised from the sale of hunting permits is used for conservation, something often promised (https://www.facebook.com/DallasSafariClub/posts/620656804679231) by hunting tour operators. But empirical research can help to elucidate several other questions, such as whether hunting can ever help drive conservation efforts.
In 2006, researcher Peter A. Lindsey of Kenya’s Mpala Research Centre (http://www.mpala.org/) and colleagues interviewed 150 people who either had already hunted in Africa, or who planned to do so within the following three years. Their findings were published in the journal Animal Conservation. A majority of hunters – eighty-six percent! – told the researchers they preferred hunting in an area where they knew that a portion of the proceeds went back into local communities. Nearly half of the hunters they interviewed also indicated that they’d be willing to pay an equivalent price for a poorer trophy if it was a problem animal that would have had to be killed anyway.
Lindsey’s team also discovered that hunters were more sensitive to conservation concerns than was perhaps expected. For example, they were less willing to hunt in areas where wild dogs or cheetahs are illegally shot, in countries that intentionally surpass their quotas, or with operators who practice “put-and-take hunting,” which is where trophy animals are released onto a fenced-in property just before a hunt. Together this suggests that hunters were willing to place economic pressure on countries and tour companies to operate in as ethical a manner as possible. Approximately nine out of every ten hunters said they’d be willing to hunt in places that were poor for wildlife viewing or which lacked attractive scenery. That is, they said that they were willing to hunt in areas that would not have otherwise been able to reap an economic benefit from ecotourism.
It’s encouraging that trophy hunters seem willing to take conservation-related issues into consideration when choosing a tour operator, but it is possible that they were simply providing the researchers with the answers that would cast them in the best light. That’s a typical concern for assessments that rely on self-report. Better evidence would come from proof that hunting can be consistent with actual, measurable conservation-related benefits for a species.
Is there such evidence? According to a 2005 paper by Nigel Leader-Williams and colleagues in the Journal of International Wildlife Law and Policy the answer is yes. Leader-Williams describes how the legalization of white rhinoceros hunting in South Africa motivated private landowners to reintroduce the species onto their lands. As a result, the country saw an increase in white rhinos from fewer than one hundred individuals to more than 11,000, even while a limited number were killed as trophies.
In a 2011 letter to Science magazine, Leader-Williams also pointed out that the implementation of controlled, legalized hunting was also beneficial for Zimbabwe’s elephants. “Implementing trophy hunting has doubled the area of the country under wildlife management relative to the 13% in state protected areas,” thanks to the inclusion of private lands, he says. “As a result, the area of suitable land available to elephants and other wildlife has increased, reversing the problem of habitat loss and helping to maintain a sustained population increase in Zimbabwe’s already large elephant population.” It is important to note, however, that the removal of mature elephant males can have other, detrimental consequences (http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20121211-animals-that-seek-teenage-kicks) on the psychological development of younger males. And rhinos and elephants are very different animals, with different needs and behaviors.
Still, the elephants of Zimbabwe and the white rhinos of South Africa seem to suggest that it is possible for conservation and trophy hunting to coexist, at least in principle. It is indeed a tricky, but not impossible, balance to strike.
It is noteworthy that the Leader-Williams’ 2005 paper recommended that legal trophy hunting for black rhinos be focused mainly on older, non-breeding males, or on younger males who have already contributed sufficient genetic material to their breeding groups. They further suggested that revenues from the sale of permits be reinvested into conservation efforts, and that revenues could be maximized by selling permits through international auctions. Namibia’s own hunting policy, it turns out, is remarkably consistent with scientific recommendations.
Even so, some have expressed concern regarding what the larger message of sanctioned trophy hunts might be. Could the possible negative consequences from a PR perspective outweigh the possible benefits from hunting? Can the message that an auction for the hunting of an endangered species like the black rhino brings possibly be reconciled with the competing message that the species requires saving? This question is probably not one that science can adequately address.
However, it might just be worth having a quick look at some numbers. 745 rhinos were killed due to illegal poaching in 2012 in Africa, which amounts to approximately two rhinos each day, mostly for their horns. In South Africa alone, 461 rhinos were killed in just the first half of 2013. Rhino horns are valued for their medicinal uses and for their supposed cancer-curing powers. Of course, rhino horns have no pharmacological value at all, making their harvest even more tragic. The five non-breeding rhinos that Namibia allows to be hunted each year seem paltry in comparison, especially since they are older males who can no longer contribute to population growth.
I don’t understand the desire to kill a magnificent animal for sport, even if the individual is an older non-breeding male. The sale of the right to kill an animal for a trophy surely reflects the value that animal lives hold in at least some corners of our society: that killing an animal for fun isn’t wrong, as long as you can afford it. It is right to worry about the sort of message that sends.
But if an endangered species as charismatic as the black rhinoceros is under such extreme threat from poaching (http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/extinction-countdown/2013/07/12/rhino-horn-south-africa-legalized/), then perhaps the message that the species needs saving has a larger problem to address than the relatively limited loss of animals to wealthy hunters. The real tragedy here is that the one rhino that will be killed as a result of Saturday’s auction has received a disproportionate amount of media attention compared to the hundreds of rhinos lost to poaching each year, which remain largely invisible. And while there remains at least a possibility that sanctioned trophy hunts can benefit the black rhino as they have for the white rhino, there is only one possible consequence of continued poaching. It’s one that conservationists and hunters alike will lament. – Jason G. Goldman | 15 January 2014

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 08:55 PM
And if you'd like articles explaining how the donated meat feeds entire villages and the money from the hunts pays to protect the villages livestock I can provide those as well. Again, I would never participate in one of these big game hunts due to my own morals, but to claim they aren't beneficial for the local population puts your ignorance on display, faggot.

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 09:00 PM
:lol It’s encouraging that trophy hunters seem willing to take conservation-related issues into consideration when choosing a tour operator, but it is possible that they were simply providing the researchers with the answers that would cast them in the best light. That’s a typical concern for assessments that rely on self-report. Better evidence would come from proof that hunting can be consistent with actual, measurable conservation-related benefits for a species.
Is there such evidence? According to a 2005 paper by Nigel Leader-Williams and colleagues in the Journal of International Wildlife Law and Policy the answer is yes. Leader-Williams describes how the legalization of white rhinoceros hunting in South Africa motivated private landowners to reintroduce the species onto their lands. As a result, the country saw an increase in white rhinos from fewer than one hundred individuals to more than 11,000, even while a limited number were killed as trophies.
In a 2011 letter to Science magazine, Leader-Williams also pointed out that the implementation of controlled, legalized hunting was also beneficial for Zimbabwe’s elephants. “Implementing trophy hunting has doubled the area of the country under wildlife management relative to the 13% in state protected areas,” thanks to the inclusion of private lands, he says. “As a result, the area of suitable land available to elephants and other wildlife has increased, reversing the problem of habitat loss and helping to maintain a sustained population increase in Zimbabwe’s already large elephant population.” :lol

The Reckoning
07-28-2015, 09:13 PM
not saying the guy's not an asshole, but this is the same approach guy harvey takes with fishing conservation. same with CCA. often times it's the wealthy fisherman/hunters who put forth the most money so their game can flourish.

Splits
07-28-2015, 09:22 PM
We can agree on him being a faggot

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Whatever though, he is a faggot.

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when in fact killing them does keep them alive.

I'm sure that $50,000 will more than cover the millions Zimbabwe will lose in tourism to their parks to see Cecil. You see, this is the problem with non-educated simpletons such as yourself. You can't think more than one checker move ahead. Or the consequences for a single "accident". For every 1 life saved by guns, we lose thousands to homicide and suicide. Yet single-issue, pre-disposed, intellectually lazy fucktards like you want everybody in a dark movie theater armed to the teeth as if that is going to solve the problem of theater shootings.

I'm sure that village was fed for decades by this dead iconic lion.



due to my own morals

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faggot.

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TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 09:27 PM
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I'm sure that $50,000 will more than cover the millions Zimbabwe will lose in tourism to their parks to see Cecil. You see, this is the problem with non-educated simpletons such as yourself. You can't think more than one checker move ahead. Or the consequences for a single "accident". For every 1 life saved by guns, we lose thousands to homicide and suicide. Yet single-issue, pre-disposed, intellectually lazy fucktards like you want everybody in a dark movie theater armed to the teeth as if that is going to solve the problem of theater shootings.

I'm sure that village was fed for decades by this dead iconic lion.


"The hunters brought eleven million US dollars with them to spend in the Namibian economy."

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And no comment on how the Rhino and Elephant populations are thriving due to opening up hunting :lol

just stop now this is getting embarrassing faggot.

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 09:30 PM
not saying the guy's not an asshole, but this is the same approach guy harvey takes with fishing conservation. same with CCA. often times it's the wealthy fisherman/hunters who put forth the most money so their game can flourish.
Outsiders who don't hunt or fish have no clue what monumental conservation efforts those who do hunt and fish have achieved. Clueless fucks like Splits are a dime a dozen.

Splits
07-28-2015, 09:35 PM
Outsiders who don't hunt or fish have no clue what monumental conservation efforts those who do hunt and fish have achieved. Clueless fucks like Splits are a dime a dozen.

:cry I read an article which re-affirmed by previously held beliefs therefore I'm right and everyone else is a faggot :cry


The Myth of Trophy Hunting as Conservation


A League Against Cruel Sports submission to
Environment Minister, Elliott Morley MP





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"It goes without saying that importing trophies of endangered species should be banned by the British Government. I'm really shocked that they haven't already done it. The whole world should do it."
Johnny Rodrigues, Zimbabwean Conservation Task Force

Trophy hunting is a booming business across Africa and it is not hard to understand why: hunters are willing to pay more than £50,000 to shoot a rare animal. Such easy money is irresistible, especially in the poor countries where most of the world's endangered species live. There are no international laws against shooting critically endangered wildlife. It is up to individual governments to introduce such legislation, if they so wish.
While it may not be possible in the short term to prevent hunters travelling around the globe to kill endangered animals, it is possible to deny them the perverse pleasure of bringing back a stuffed, mounted trophy of their kill.
Earlier this year, the European Union banned the import of trophies from British Columbian grizzly bears amidst fears for the survival of the species.
The grizzly is listed in Appendix I (the most critically endangered) of the Convention on
International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES). The League Against Cruel Sports is
campaigning for this protection to be extended to all Appendix I animals, including rhinos,
leopards and cheetahs.


EXPOSING THE HUNTERS’ LIES
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Hunting versus eco-tourism
A November 2004 study by the University of Port Elizabeth estimated that eco-tourism on private game reserves generated "more than 15 times the income of livestock or game rearing or overseas hunting". (1) Eco-tourism lodges in Eastern Cape Province produce almost 2000 rand (£180) per hectare. Researchers also noted that more jobs were created and staff received "extensive skills training". (2)

The reasons for this are obvious. Although hunters pay large sums, ordinary tourists are much more numerous. Hunters shoot an animal once, but photographic tourists can shoot it a thousand times and the animal is still there. In 1982, it was estimated that a maned male lion earned Kenya National Parks $50,000 (£26,500) a year through photographic tourism.(3) In comparison, in neighbouring Tanzania, hunters currently pay a $2000 (£1060) trophy fee and the lion is gone forever.(4)

Hunting safaris are seasonal and are open for a maximum of six months a year. They use very basic camps and staff rarely learn any other skills to support themselves during the rest of the year. In contrast, photographic safaris run all year. They use well-established, often luxurious, camps or hotels. Staff are trained in management and other useful professional qualifications which advance their careers.

According to Blythe Loutit, founder of Save the Rhino Trust Fund in Namibia, "Tourism is far better than hunting from the employment angle. Whereas hunting is quick income for one or two trackers and a skinner, three to five people in one family can earn a permanent income in tourism. There is also the probability of improved income as years go by." (5)
Even pro-hunters admit that economic and employment opportunities with hunting outfits are limited.
During an undercover League Against Cruel Sports investigation in spring 2004, Sir Edward Dashwood, director of the E J Churchill Sporting Agency, admitted to investigators that "90% of the trophy fee goes straight into some Nigerian's pocket or African politician or whatever it is." (6)
Michael De Alessi, director of the Centre for Private Conservation in Zimbabwe, commented in an essay promoting hunting: "Photo safaris and other non-consumptive activities can be quite lucrative but take a great deal of time and investment to set up. Guests expect comfortable accommodations, quality meals and a range of activities. This in turn means a fair number of staff. Hunters, on the other hand, are often more happy with Spartan amenities, and one or two game scouts." (7)

In Botswana's Okavango Delta, a prime game area, the largest photographic operator is Okavango Wilderness Safaris (OWS). Each of their twelve lodges have an average of 30 staff, compared to 10 to 12 for hunting camps. Former OWS managing director Alan Wolfromm has observed: "When one considers the employment statistics and training offered with career opportunities, there is no doubt that photographic safaris have a far larger beneficial impact on the general economy." (8)

Africa Geographic drew up the following hypothetical comparison between two average sized concessions in the Okavango Delta, one selling hunting safaris and the other selling photographic safaris. This showed that photographic safaris generate more than three times the total revenue than hunting safaris and pay more than 12 times as much in staff salaries.(9)

HUNTING SAFARI PHOTOGRAPHIC SAFARI
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The 'pale male' elite
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exclusively, white. Gareth Patterson, known as 'the Lion Man of Africa' (10) ,
refers to these beneficiaries as "the pale males".(11)
Patterson has told the League: "Hunting pays the hunting industry and handsomely so."
This assessment is not disputed by the South African Government. South Africa's Minister of Environmental Affairs and Tourism, Marthinus Van Schalkwyk, stated in a November 2004 press release:
"Professional hunting remains by-and-large white and male-dominated - visibly separate from most South African communities." He has urged hunters to "rapidly and genuinely incorporate all communities as owners, managers, service providers and as customers", suggesting there are "many opportunities for Black Economic Empowerment partnerships with communities". (12)

The most powerful friends on earth
With their financial and political might, this formidably powerful clique of hunters is shamelessly promoting hunting as a form of conservation. Many poor governments are easily won over because it offers such easy money – the bulk of which goes straight into their pockets.

According to Israeli journalist Zvi Bar'el, "In Tanzania, a hunting safari can bring in $50,000 or even $100,000. The large sums are mostly collected by the Government, which issues the hunting licenses. Officially, only a small portion of this is transferred to the [local] citizenry. Other sums, also quite considerable, are given to citizens in the hunting regions in return for their agreement to turn a blind eye to deviations from the conditions of the hunting license." (13)

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According to Michele Pickover, chairperson of Xwe African Wild Life Investigation & Research Centre in South Africa,: "To date most, if not all, Community Based Natural Resource Management projects have been funded via donor funding." (15)

The most famous example is Zimbabwe's CAMPFIRE programme, which was promoted as a model for employing local communities in trophy hunting. However, as the Species Survival Network (SSN) has pointed out: "projects like the much touted CAMPFIRE program have proven unsustainable in the long term without substantial and continuous infusions of outside aid." (16)
CAMPFIRE only survived because it was given massive subsidies by the US Government through USAID, starting with $8 million from 1989 to 1996 and rising to $20.5 million in 1997 to 2000. With only $2.5 million a year in programme revenue, the trophy hunting project was making a massive loss and was not a financially viable business venture. (17)

Incestuous relationship
In South Africa, the source of 85% of Africa's trophies, (18) the Government is actively promoting the development of game ranches to feed the rapacious demands of trophy hunters.
According to Pickover, "A small, but vociferous, pro-gun and pro-hunting lobby, largely made up of white Afrikaans-speaking males is bank rolling the trophy hunting industry. Seemingly entrenched Government bureaucrats who were appointed during the Apartheid era and who are also mostly white, Afrikaans-speaking men and who on the whole support hunting, in turn, prop them up. "In this way, unacceptable practices are being enabled by the very official agencies that should be playing an independent monitoring and even watchdog role.". (19)
This view is supported by Chris Mercer, a retired advocate and co-author of 'For the Love of Wildlife', who now runs the Kalahari Raptor Centre, a wildlife sanctuary in South Africa. (20) According to Mercer, "The hunting industry and provincial conservation officials are often one and the same."
Mercer, who has been at the forefront of efforts to outlaw canned hunting, has compared this to "asking Al Capone's henchmen to monitor his activities". (21)

Splits
07-28-2015, 09:37 PM
Colonialism reborn
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Less than 5% went to the government for wildlife conservation and the remainder was spent on airfares, charter flights, packing and shipping trophies and a "general Government fund". No mention was even made of funds going to local communities. (22)

Such a polarisation of wealth is simply a recipe for greater instability in what is already the world's most troubled continent. Many African communities are traditionally hunters.
Under colonialism, hunting for subsistence was seen as uncivilised while hunting by imperialists was a civilised form of entertainment.(23)
African communities were banned from hunting, while Europeans, such as the author Ernest Hemingway, came to Africa to shoot animals for fun. Today's trophy hunting uses the same double standards.

There is, however, nothing civilised about letting an injured animal bleed to death (rather than shooting it in the head) because you want an unspoilt trophy to hang on your wall. Amateur hunters generally do not have good track records for clean kills. UK research indicates that amateurs are less capable than professionals of killing their targets outright and therefore cause unnecessary suffering to the animal concerned. (24)

Loutit of Save The Rhino Trust in Namibia has summed the problem up: "A question I am often asked -- and I have no answer -- is why can the 'great white' hunters be allowed to have the rhino horn trophy, but not the traditional medicine makers and the traditional dagger handle carvers?" (25)

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Not surprisingly, this hypocrisy has ultimately worsened the situation for wildlife, leading inevitably to increased poaching. Born Free spokesperson Ian Redmond summed it up succinctly: "If the law seems unjust it is much harder to enforce." (27) It also sends the message that dead animals are still a valuable trade commodity.

Recipe for conflict
The South African Government rejects these concerns, arguing that it needs the money. It has already accepted the introduction of hunting in state parks such as Pilanesberg and Madikwe, and there are increasing fears it will soon be legalised in national parks as well. (28)
Fiona Mcleod, a journalist with South Africa's Mail & Guardian who has written extensively on wildlife, shared her concern: "I would not be surprised if we soon see a motion to introduce hunting in national parks. Everybody is convinced by the money motive, and the lobby that is promoting this is getting stronger and stronger." (29)

This move would be detrimental to the eco-tourism industry which is already complaining that hunting upsets the animals so much they cannot be viewed. Nor do eco-tourist operators relish the prospect of a photographic tourist accidentally witnessing an animal being hunted and shot. (30)

It is virtually impossible for these two groups to co-exist. The hunting industry, and the Governments they have wooed, are battling against eco-tourism operators and local communities for control over the planet's endangered species - and often winning. In Tanzania, where 20% of the country has been leased out to anyone who can afford it, local
communities accuse hunting companies and their clients of indiscriminate hunting of wildlife, insensitivity to the rights of the local people and to the overall well being of the environment. (31)
Because of the sums involved, the hunters are predominantly foreigners, reinforcing the sense of colonial double standards.

Across the border in Kenya, the Government introduced limited game cropping under pressure from wealthy landowners who argued that this would give them an economic interest in conserving wildlife on their land. This incensed local communities, who were still not allowed to hunt, and has caused "heightened animosity between the landowners and the communities" as well as increased poaching. (32)
Recently, landowners began pushing for a Bill lifting Kenya's 1977 ban on sports hunting. (33)

A smokescreen for corruption and poaching
Hunters prize rare trophies. To get them, many pay bribes to exceed the hunting quota, shoot the wrong species, age or gender, to use illegal methods or to hunt without a permit. (34)
Trophy hunting depends on effective state regulation and extensive scientific monitoring of animal populations. Neither is feasible in Africa, perceived to be the world's least developed and most corrupt continent. Opening up even a limited legal trade creates a smokescreen for poachers which is almost impossible to police. Prior to 1986, when the whaling moratorium was introduced, legal quotas were widely used as cover for poaching, driving some species near to extinction. The same is happening with trophy hunting of endangered species. (35)

Even in the US and Canada, among the world's best regulated countries, flagrant poaching continues behind legal hunting. In Maine, Alaska and Alberta, veteran guides have been caught running poaching rings while simultaneously catering to trophy hunters. (36)

Traffic, the pro-hunting wildlife trade monitoring network, investigated hunting in Europe and Asia. It found that illegal hunting grew in parallel with the legal market and in a 2002 report admitted: "Trophy hunting can in some cases - rather than providing economic benefits for conservation - have also a detrimental effect for nature conservation.

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Monitoring is phenomenally costly. For example, pro-hunting biologist Mitchell Taylor admitted that maintaining a good enough track of the grizzly bear population in Canada in order to sustain trophy hunting would require a 10 year investment in research costing C$20 million (£9 million). As the Canadian Government could not afford this, Taylor was forced to admit that it was "difficult to defend hunting practices". (38)

The killing fields of Loliondo
Tanzania clearly illustrates the pitfalls of introducing hunting to a poor country that is susceptible to corruption. For example, the United Arab Emirate's deputy defence minister Brigadier Mohamed Abdulrahim al Ali, through his company Ortello Business Company (OBC), bought the rights to hunt on Loliondo, traditional territory of the Maasai next to Serengeti National Park. His visitors include Arab royalty. The land is supposed to be managed by area residents for their benefit. OBC, like many tourism companies in developing countries, makes donations to schools and development projects and provides some jobs. But locals are far from happy.

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shooters. There is widespread fear among the local Maasai, who complain of intimidation,
arbitrary arrest and detention by OBC officials, members of the UAE army and the Tanzanian
paramilitary who patrol the property. (40)

While Tanzania has strict rules on game hunting, Maasai who have worked at the lodge
report that guests are never told the limits and hunt as much as they want. (41) Hunters bribe park rangers and guides to let them enter protected areas or give them blank hunting certificates to shoot what they like. (42) They give cash to anyone who can lead them to big game, especially leopards. (43)
According to one Maasai leader: "All the resident animals have been killed… (now) they carry out hunting raids in the Serengeti National Park but the Government closes its eyes." (44)
One Danish hunter summarised the situation cynically: "Here in Tanzania we can kill what we want because money speaks." (45)

Annihilation of wildlife in Zimbabwe
Lawless Zimbabwe provides an even more terrifying example of what can happen without adequate regulation, according to conservationists. Here, poaching in connection with farm occupations is totally out of control.

Johnny Rodrigues, chairperson of the Zimbabwean Conservation Task Force has detailed the problem:
"Nobody knows how many animals we have left since the onset of the land reform programme. I estimate we have lost between 90 and 100 per cent of game on game ranches, over 60 per cent in the conservancies and maybe 40 per cent in our national parks. The new settlers don't bother with quotas. As long as the hunter has money, he can kill to his heart's content.
"There is no law and order here. The rich are getting richer and the poor are starving to death. Our local communities are not getting anything. That is why poaching is so rife. You can't really blame the locals. They are hungry." (46)
According to Rodrigues, South African hunters are taking advantage of the chaos to run illegal safari hunting operations. Out of Africa Safaris are amongst the worst offenders. They bring American tourists to the shoot in Zimbabwe via their US agent Richard Putman in Seminole, Alabama. The outfit is based in All Days in South Africa, just over the border from Zimbabwe. (47)

Rodrigues explained: "They bring their clients in here, shoot to their heart's content and then smuggle the trophies across the border in false fuel tanks on their vehicles to their base in South Africa. They have a huge warehouse there where they cure the trophies and prepare them for export."

Out of Africa Safaris recently made a trip to Woodlands Estates which has been confiscated from its legal owner where, according to Rodrigues, "The resident war vet charged the hunters $50,000 and told them they could kill as much game as they could carry. An eyewitness told me it was like a slaughterhouse. There were dead animals lying everywhere, buffalo, elephant, lion, leopard, kudu, eland, you name it. He said there were impala hanging from the trees which they were using as bait to catch the leopards."

Three members of the outfit were caught at the border and arrested.
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Wally Herbst, chairman of the Wildlife Producers Association, has asked: "How are we
as custodians supposed to support our CITES stance when we daily watch the poaching tally
mount? How many pieces of paper with poaching stats must be produced before our ministry
acts?" (49)

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Infanticide, inbreeding and other knock on effects.
Aside from the difficulties of politics and implementation, many scientists firmly oppose trophy hunting because we simply do not know enough about the potential impact on animal societies. No baseline studies have been done on the ecology of a hunted area. (50) With these huge gaps in our understanding, conservationists argue it is best to adopt the precautionary principle because what is lost can never be regained. (51)
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social structure, promoting infighting and increasing tension among members. (53) Cub
infanticide has been well-documented with lions. (54) It is also known to occur with bears (55), leopards (56), and other animals.

Trophy hunting also has serious genetic implications.
Hunters target males in their prime with the largest manes or biggest horns, the animals who protect the rest of the pride from predators. The impact of this can be seen in heavily hunted areas, such as Tanzania, where the size of trophy tusks or manes rapidly decreases, much to the annoyance of hunters. (57)

According to Pickover of Xwe, "Hunters are killing the strong and healthy animals and this goes completely against the balance of nature. Some ecologists refer to hunting as evolution in reverse."(58)
This view is supported by the Oxford University Wildlife Conservation Unit (Wildcru), which has carried out research in Zimbabwe's Hwange National Park, concluding that over-hunting goes against natural selection, disrupts social behaviour and creates unhealthy age and sex ratios.
Wildcru has warned about the genetic risks of hunting: "In a natural situation mature male lions compete for groups of females, the fittest males dominate, passing on their genes. If excessive cropping of mature males occurs, young less experienced males or males that do not normally have access to females may be able to take over prides. Without the effect of natural selection a situation where sub-optimal genes are incorporated into the population might occur." (59)
Dereck Joubert, world-renowned wildlife filmmaker and author, has already witnessed this in
Botswana. He has documented cases where young males have stayed within their natal pride and mated with both their mothers and sisters. This inbreeding is the result of hunting pressures which have prevented dominant males from establishing themselves. (60)

One of the more unusual repercussions of trophy hunting was recorded in South Africa's Pilanesberg National Park:

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bull elephants". The problem was addressed by introducing six older males from another park. (61)

Working in the dark
Most Governments managing wildlife populations are not aware of such complexities. They struggle to even get basic figures for their wildlife populations. It is hard to count animals that roam freely in extensive areas which are difficult to survey. If wildlife managers cannot afford expensive aerial surveys, they have no choice but to rely on guesstimates provided by hunters, safari operators or local communities. Self-interested contributors falsify population figures so that they can continue to hunt 'excess' animals. (62) Interested parties, such as Safari Club International, sometimes fund research, which can prejudice findings. (63)

In a comprehensive summary of over 100 studies of the results of 'sustainable harvest' programs for the German conservation organization, Pro Wildlife, Martin Hutter observed that, given the costs involved, "it is not surprising, therefore, that monitoring is neglected in many harvesting schemes and projects based on wildlife utilization." (64)

In his study, Hutter cited the example of Namibia, where the Government relaxed its regulations on quotas to involve "minimum and very basic biological information necessary to make decisions on sustainability of harvest, such as the following: expectation of the landowners (statement of management objectives), a record of additions and removals (including harvest) of game, an initial inventory of game resources, and an assessment of all habitat management (such as controlled burns, addition of water holes etc.) and actions to protect against poaching". (65)

This concern was echoed by 27 leading animal and environmental welfare organisations in a letter to the United States Government that successfully persuaded it to back down on an attempts to liberalise the import of endangered species into the US: "Study after study documents programs in which data on population declines are ignored, quotas go unenforced, illegal specimens are laundered through registered programs, and the promised benefits for local communities and conservation efforts never
materialize" (66)
This is again reinforced by Wildcru, which has stated: "Setting hunting quotas is a difficult task, which must take into account many factors such as population size, longevity of the species, social biology and ecology. Without a reliable population estimate a reasonable quota can never be set." (67)

Factory farming wildlife
The Kenyan conservationist Richard Leakey predicted: "If wildlife and wilderness were regarded solely as items that generate money, their days were surely numbered. Inevitably, someone would find a way to use them to make more money from them than protecting them does." (68)

What Leakey did not foresee was the horror of canned hunting: the captive breeding of lions, cubs hand reared by humans whom they learn to trust (and associate with food) who are, when they reach the right age, placed in an enclosure, often drugged, to be shot by a foreign trophy hunter. Despite official condemnation, the practice is rife in South Africa and is spreading to other countries. (69)

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represents 45 million hunters worldwide, has condemned the practice, saying that the
element of "fair chase" in hunting does not apply to canned hunts. (70)
The breeders show no respect for their animals. In order to maximise profits, the cubs
are almost immediately removed from their mothers to induce another oestrus cycle so she
can be inseminated again. Lionesses have been known to chew on the wire mesh that
separates them from their cubs until their gums bleed. As male lions are the most sought
after trophies, most of the female cubs are killed. (71)

According to Ian Michler in a 2002 Africa Geographic article, breeders save money of food for cubs and young lions by feeding the a diet that "comprises mostly unborn foetuses that have been removed from cattle slaughtered at abattoirs while pregnant. In some instances food supplements are used. [In 2001], 23 adults and 51 cubs died at Mokwalo [a white lion breeding project in Limpopo Province] within a week of eating contaminated supplements". (72)

Unsurprisingly, many of the animals suffer from captivity depression. Inbreeding is common, although this violates both South Africa's obligations under the Biodiversity Convention and its own Biodiversity Act. To solve this, breeders eagerly seek out wild lions, which are sometimes sold by national parks, to improve the genetic mix. (73)

To meet hunters' desire for unusual trophies and breeders' desire to get rich, exotic cats such as panthers and Bengal tigers are sometimes bred. Sanwild, a South African wildlife rehabilitation centre, says genetics are also manipulated to produce animals with abnormal skin colours, such as red blue wildebeest, yellow blesbok and black impala. One captive breeder is known to be trying to create a "liger" by cross breeding a tiger and a lion. (74)

Chris Mercer of the Kalahari Raptor Centre has denounced captive breeding programmes, saying: "Numbers alone are not a measure of conservation. Soon all our wildlife will be found in factory farms, bred like pigs in crates. If the only alternative to extinction is to be imprisoned for life in cruel and unnatural living conditions, before being executed by inhumane and unethical means, then the species would be better off dead." (75)

The canned hunting industry was exposed by The Cook Report on British television in 1997. Hidden cameras showed hunting promoters in South Africa explaining how they dig holes under the fence of Kruger National Park to lure out lions which they then dart with tranquilliser to help the hunters' aim. The South African Government barely reacted to widespread international protest. When environment minister Pallo Jordan was shown a tape of The Cook Report, he dismissed it as a provincial matter. (76)
In fact, a recent Government policy on the sustainable use of large predators gives breeders the right to extend their factory farming methods to other vulnerable indigenous and exotic animals on the CITES list including tigers, cheetahs and jaguars. (77)

South Africa's Wildlife Action Group has complained: "There are powerful forces at play in South Africa to protect the interest of lion breeders, as this has become a very lucrative and powerful industry." (78)

South Africa's mainstream tourism industry is pushing for the Government to ban captive breeding and canned hunting. They fear that the scandal of such animal cruelty will deter ordinary tourists from visiting their country.
Australian venture capitalist Philip Wollen of The Winsome Constance Kindness Trust has already warned South Africa about the threat. In an open letter to the South African public he stated: "This reputation does not happen overnight. It creeps up on you and suddenly one day you realise that your country smells of decaying flesh in the nostrils of the international community. By then it is too late." (79)

As a last resort, many South African animal welfare groups, including the Kalahari Raptor Centre and Ecoterra International (80), are willing to organise a tourist boycott to force their Government to shut down these inhumane factory farms.
There is a better way As well as providing more jobs and encouraging democratic management of our natural assets, ecotourism teaches people to respect wildlife in its natural state. Animals are appreciated for their intrinsic beauty and value, instead of being treated as a commodity to be used in whichever barbaric way is most profitable.

The example of South Africa's Maluleke community provides a model of integrating indigenous people into conservation programmes. (81) Under apartheid, the Maluleke were thrown off their ancestral lands to create South Africa's premier game reserve, the Kruger National Park. Since the introduction of democracy to South Africa, they have been given 24,000 hectares of their land back.
The Maluleke's commercial advisers calculated that the community could make more money from tourism than from hunting. This fits well with the Maluleke's traditional respect for animals as a hunting community. So they signed a deal to lease out their ancestral lands as a contract park, which they jointly manage with representatives from Kruger. Lodges, guesthouses and a museum were built in partnership with the private sector, which pays a monthly lease and levy fees into a community development fund.
Local people have been trained as wildlife managers and safari guides. Some have graduated with national diplomas in nature conservation and business management. Thus, the park has been successfully transformed from a source of resentment into a sustainable source of income. (82)

Kenya, the only country in Africa that bans sport hunting, promotes itself as Africa's leading ecotourism destination. The Ecotourism Society of Kenya has set up an eco-rating scheme for lodges and camps, the first of its kind in Africa. The focus is on delivering benefits to communities by "improving the quality of individual human lives through providing health care, education, and economic advancement, and on empowering local communities to manage their environment and resources effectively". (83)

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staff, 50 to 100 part-time staff and an additional 150 people employed in tourism enterprises, furniture and carpet-making workshops and farms within Lewa's
boundaries. It supports and builds primary schools, inviting children to visit the conservancy and learn about conservation, a clinic and local self-help groups.

LWC also supports the Namunyak Wildlife Conservation Trust, one of the most successful community conservation programmes in Kenya. The local Samburu communities have built up a community game guard system, eliminating elephant poaching from a wide area. They also generate revenue from wildlife through Sarara Tented Camp. The Trust is run by a board,
democratically elected from the local community.

The case for UK Government action
The United Kingdom prides itself for standing at the forefront of animal welfare and conservation, which was most recently illustrated by the passage of the Hunting Act 2004. In addition, the Government has a stated commitment to its Sustainable Tourism Initiative (STI), which established a Travel Foundation to promote tourism that helps to preserve endangered wildlife and benefits local communities. (85) Prime Minister Tony Blair has also committed himself to tackling poverty in Africa, which he described as a "scar on the conscience of the world" in October 2001.

One extraordinarily positive way which the Government could further these commitments would be to take a moral stance against the slaughter of endangered species by banning the importation of trophy parts from any animal listed in CITES Appendix I. It would also be enormously beneficial to poor communities if the STI Travel Foundation supported and promoted the community-based eco-tourism initiatives above and investigated ways of assisting other communities to follow suit.

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Many of the groups we contacted in researching this report, included appeals to the UK Government to take action.

Chris Mercer of the Kalahari Raptor Society said:
"We cannot understand why the British Government would even hesitate in implementing a ban on the importation of trophies. Trophy hunting is devastating African wildlife and corrupting people and policies in Africa. It is a process whereby the public's wildlife heritage is transferred out of the public domain into the hands of hunters for cruel profiteering. The prize is some lifeless clutter to hang on some wretch's wall. If the import of trophies was banned then none of this would happen." (86)

Gareth Patterson, African environmentalist and author of Last of the Free and With My Soul Amongst Lions, said:
"The trophy hunting of Appendix I endangered species is not only ethically and morally wrong, but causes grave ecological implications, such as artificially induced infanticide of the offspring of the hunted animal and erosion of the overall genetic diversity of the particular species. The UK Government, and Governments elsewhere, should be encouraged therefore to ban the import of hunting trophies." (87)

Michael Wamithi, of the International Fund for Animal Welfare in Kenya, said:
"To ensure that hunting and the related illegal trade in wildlife do not lead to the extinction of
endangered species, trade control and law enforcement mechanisms must first be in place. At this point in time, African Governments do not have the capacity or the political will to do this. There are more compelling needs, like health and education, competing for the same scarce Government resources. Corruption and poor governance are rife. Any trophy exports now will only achieve short term benefits and threaten long tern community and national interests." (88)

Michele Pickover, of Xwe Wild Life Investigation & Research Centre, said:
"The United Kingdom should not allow the importation of CITES Appendix I trophies from South Africa because of the unethical nature of the industry and the fact that animals that are killed for trophies come from ecologically unsustainable, privately-owned fenced 'game farms' where there is no community benefit. Most of Africa's wild life trophies come from South Africa where 'canned hunting' is fundamentally and inextricably linked to trophy hunting. The South African Government lacks the resources to police and regulate the industry. Finally, trophy hunting promotes a culture of violence and guns. This is in direct opposition to the needs of South African society, which is desperately trying to free itself from its violent past." (90)

Liezel Mortimer, Wildlife Action Group, South Africa, said:
"As a animal welfare group in South Africa we feel strongly that the trophy hunting industry in our country is riddled with unethical and immoral practices. We have seen first hand that the hunting industry can be unscrupulous and that our authorities do not have the manpower or sufficient support from our Government and law enforcement to investigate and prosecute offenders. We need support and we are very grateful that the League Against Cruel Sports have taken up the issue regarding trophy hunting." (91)

And Johnny Rodrigues, of the Zimbabwean Conservation Task Force, most succinctly said:
"It goes without saying that importing trophies of endangered species should be banned by the British Government. I'm really shocked that they haven't already done it. The whole world should do it." (92)

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(29) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(30) Possible boycott discussion document -Drafted in discussion with the animal welfare community by Chris Mercer and Beverley Pervan of the Kalahari Raptor Centre, authors of the book "For the Love of Wildlife." http://www.raptor.co.za/news/discdoc.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raptor.co.za%2Fnews%2Fdis cdoc.htm&h=pAQH7mQ7z&s=1)
(31) 'The Killing Fields of Loliondo', Maasai Environmental Resource Coalition, April 2002
(32) Josphat Ngonyo, director of Youth for Conservation in 'Bush Policy and Bushmeat', Animal People, October 2003
(33) John Mbaria, 'State is Handfed New Bid to Buy Out KWS', The Daily Nation, 07 August 2004
(34) Doris Hofer, 'The Lion's Share of the Hunt: Trophy Hunting and Conservation - A Review of the Legal Eurasian Tourist Hunting Market and Trophy Trade Under Cites', Traffic Europe Regional Report, 2002.
(35) ANIMAL PEOPLE - June 1994 - Volume III, #5http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/94/5/editorial.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.animalpeoplenews.org%2F94 %2F5%2Feditorial.html&h=vAQH4Traz&s=1)
(36) Clifton Merritt, Animal People, May 1994
(37) Doris Hofer, 'The Lion's Share of the Hunt: Trophy Hunting and Conservation - A Review of the Legal Eurasian Tourist Hunting Market and Trophy Trade Under Cites', Traffic Europe Regional Report, 2002.
(38) 'BC Grizzly Hunt is 'Difficult to Defend' Warns Biologist Hired by the Safari Club', Animal People 01 February 2002
(39) 'The Killing Fields of Loliondo', Maasai Environmental Resource Coalition (MERC), May 2002
(40) Ibid.
(41) Chris Tomlinson, 'Big Game Hunting Threatening Africa', Associated Press, 20 March 2002
(42) 'The Killing Fields of Loliondo', Maasai Environmental Resource Coalition, May 2002
(43) Chris Tomlinson, 'Big Game Hunting Threatening Africa', Associated Press, 20 March 2002
(44) Ibid.
(45) Ted Botha, 'Killing the Killing Fields of Loliondo',http://www.tedbotha.com/raw_pdf/web-24.pdf (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tedbotha.com%2Fraw_pdf%2F web-24.pdf&h=MAQG3bXYx&s=1)
(46) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(47) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(48) Report by afrol News 30 November 2004 (http://www.afrol.com/articles/14444 (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.afrol.com%2Farticles%2F14 444&h=xAQEWzd9W&s=1))
(49) 'Safari Operators Lose 90 per cent of Their Game', Zimbabwe Independent, 21 June 2002
(50) Winter, PE, Sport hunting in Tanzania: Costs and benefits. Reproduced for the Zoological Society of London. 30pp. Undated.
(51) Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002
(52) Gareth Patterson, personal correspondence (November 2004) andhttp://www.bornfree.org.uk/big.cat/bcatnews (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bornfree.org.uk%2Fbig.cat %2Fbcatnews&h=bAQEeMYLw&s=1)
(53) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe,
(54) University of Oxford, Zoology Department, Wildlife Conservations Research Unit,
http://www.wildcru.org/links/hwangelions/mission.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildcru.org%2Flinks%2Fhwa ngelions%2Fmission.htm&h=9AQHhXGo_&s=1)
(55) The Bear Society, http://www.bearsmart.com/bearFacts/Mating.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bearsmart.com%2FbearFacts %2FMating.html&h=0AQG6CxTI&s=1)
(56) Mun Ya Wan Leopard Project, Monash University,http://www.biolsci.monash.edu.au/Honours/leopards/kezi.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biolsci.monash.edu.au%2FH onours%2Fleopards%2Fkezi.htm&h=5AQEYd7Mt&s=1)
(57) Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002.
(58) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe,
(59) University of Oxford, Zoology Department, Wildlife Conservations Research Unit,
http://www.wildcru.org/links/hwangelions/mission.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildcru.org%2Flinks%2Fhwa ngelions%2Fmission.htm&h=eAQHsJUka&s=1)
(60) Ian Michler, 'Botswana's Great Lion Debate', Africa Geographic, 01 October 2001
(61) Slotow, Rob, et al, 'Older bull elephants control young males: Orphaned male adolescents go on killing sprees if mature males aren't around', Nature, 23 November 2000, www.nature.com/cgitaf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v408/n6811/abs/408425a0_fs.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Fcgitaf%2FDyn aPage.taf%3Ffile%3D%252Fnature%252Fjournal%252Fv40 8%252Fn6811%252Fabs%252F408425a0_fs.html&h=XAQEqqy89&s=1)
(62) Josphat Ngonyo, director of Youth for Conservation in 'Bush Policy and Bushmeat', Animal People, October 2003
(63) Ian Michler, 'Botswana's Great Lion Debate', Africa Geographic, 01 January 2001 & Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002.
(64) Ibid.
(65) Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002.
(66) 'Comments on the Draft Policy on Enhancement of Survival Permits for Foreign Species Listed Under the Endangered Species Act', Defenders of Wildlife and Species Survival Network, 17/10/03
(67) http://www.wildcru.org/links/hwangelions (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildcru.org%2Flinks%2Fhwa ngelions&h=qAQEwTL3o&s=1)
(68) Richard Leakey and Virginia Morell, 'Wildlife Wars: My Fight to Save Africa's Natural Treasures', 2001.
(69) Personal correspondence, Louise Joubert, SanWild Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre and Sanctuary, http://www.sanwild.org (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sanwild.org%2F&h=GAQE7smx_&s=1)
(70) Possible boycott discussion document -Drafted in discussion with the animal welfare community by Chris Mercer and Beverley Pervan of the Kalahari Raptor Centre, authors of the book "For the Love of Wildlife." http://www.raptor.co.za/news/discdoc.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raptor.co.za%2Fnews%2Fdis cdoc.htm&h=aAQFw3q74&s=1)
(71) This has been widely documented. Eg. Kalahari Raptor Centre, Michler, Xwe.
(72) 'Rotten Meat… Or Just Unfair Game?', Ian Michler, Africa Geographic, 02/06/02
(73) This has been widely documented. Eg. Kalahari Raptor Centre, Michler, Xwe.
(74) Personal correspondence (November 2004) with Louise Joubert of Sanwild
(75) Address by Chris Mercer of the Kalahari Raptor Centre to Wildlife & Environment Society of South Africa, 28/08/03
(76) 'Norway Offers Deal to Africa 'You Kill Elephants, We'll Kill Whales'', Animal People, 06/97
(77) Norms and standards for the sustainable use of large predators. Government Gazette 25090, Notice 874 of 13 June 2003 as cited by The Environment Movements in South Africa: An Analysis of Animal Based Issues, Campaigns and Organisations August 2003 Research Report for the Centre for Civil Society.
(78) 'Canned Lion Update', Wildlife Action Group news, 28/08/04
(79) http://www.wag.co.za (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wag.co.za%2F&h=iAQF7YRmh&s=1)
(80) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(81) 'South African Tribe Regains its Land for Conservation', Andrew Maykuth, The Philadelphia Inquirer, 30/05/98
(82) Ibid.
(83) http://www.esok.org (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.esok.org%2F&h=ZAQHR1Pe9&s=1)
(84) http://www.lewa.org (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lewa.org%2F&h=vAQH4Traz&s=1)
(85) Correspondence between Environment Minister ****** Morley and Dr Doug Naysmith MP, 11 August 2004.
(86) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(87) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(88) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(89) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(90) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(91) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(92) Personal correspondence (November 2004)

Splits
07-28-2015, 09:40 PM
"The hunters brought eleven million US dollars with them to spend in the Namibian economy."

http://media.giphy.com/media/I4Jmrcjnr8Zfq/giphy.gif




And no comment on how the Rhino and Elephant populations are thriving due to opening up hunting :lol

just stop now this is getting embarrassing faggot.

Annihilation of wildlife in Zimbabwe
Lawless Zimbabwe provides an even more terrifying example of what can happen without adequate regulation, according to conservationists. Here, poaching in connection with farm occupations is totally out of control.

Johnny Rodrigues, chairperson of the Zimbabwean Conservation Task Force has detailed the problem:
"Nobody knows how many animals we have left since the onset of the land reform programme. I estimate we have lost between 90 and 100 per cent of game on game ranches, over 60 per cent in the conservancies and maybe 40 per cent in our national parks. The new settlers don't bother with quotas. As long as the hunter has money, he can kill to his heart's content.

"There is no law and order here. The rich are getting richer and the poor are starving to death. Our local communities are not getting anything. That is why poaching is so rife. You can't really blame the locals. They are hungry." (46)

According to Rodrigues, South African hunters are taking advantage of the chaos to run illegal safari hunting operations. Out of Africa Safaris are amongst the worst offenders. They bring American tourists to the shoot in Zimbabwe via their US agent Richard Putman in Seminole, Alabama. The outfit is based in All Days in South Africa, just over the border from Zimbabwe

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 09:47 PM
Cool wall of text faggot, you've still yet to refute that allowing big game hunting has boosted big game population. I put the White Rhino numbers out there, refute them.

Splits
07-28-2015, 09:47 PM
Cool wall of text


We can agree on him being a faggot, but he said he thought he was doing it legally, could have been misled by the tour guides for all we know. Whatever though, he is a faggot. Now let's move on and look at how fucking stupid your next statement is when in fact killing them does keep them alive.




http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/

Can trophy hunting ever be a useful tool in the conservationist’s toolbox? On the surface, the answer would appear obvious. It seems as if the killing of an animal – especially an endangered one – for sport is directly contradictory to the goal of ensuring the survival of a species. The question has been asked again following the auction last Saturday night of the right to hunt an endangered black rhinoceros (Diceros bicornis) in Namibia. And the answer, as usual, is more complicated.
The permit was sold for $350,000, well above the previous high bid for a permit in that country, $223,000. While the Dallas Safari Club had the dubious distinction of being the first organization to hold such an auction outside of Namibia itself, it’s fairly unremarkable and actually quite common for an African nation to sell permits for trophy hunting, even for endangered species. Indeed, both Namibia and South Africa are legally permitted (http://www.cites.org/eng/res/13/13-05R14C15.php) by the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) to sell five permits for the hunting of adult male black rhinos each year.
And it’s not just rhinos. For example, a 2000 report from TRAFFIC (http://www.traffic.org/general-reports/traffic_pub_gen8.pdf), an organization that works with the WWF, IUCN, and CITES to track the international trade of wildlife, describes how Namibia alone was the site of almost 16,000 trophy hunts that year. Those 16,000 animals represent a wide variety of species – birds, reptiles, mammals, and even primates – both endangered and not. They include four of the so-called “big five” popular African game: lion, Cape buffalo, leopard, and rhinoceros. (Only the elephant was missing.) The hunters brought eleven million US dollars with them to spend in the Namibian economy. And that doesn’t include revenue from non-trophy recreational hunting activities, which are limited to four species classified as of “least concern” by the IUCN: Greater Kudu, Gemsbok, Springbok and Warthog.
The issues here are complex and highly politicized. There are several questions that science can’t help address, primary of which is whether or not the money raised from the sale of hunting permits is used for conservation, something often promised (https://www.facebook.com/DallasSafariClub/posts/620656804679231) by hunting tour operators. But empirical research can help to elucidate several other questions, such as whether hunting can ever help drive conservation efforts.
In 2006, researcher Peter A. Lindsey of Kenya’s Mpala Research Centre (http://www.mpala.org/) and colleagues interviewed 150 people who either had already hunted in Africa, or who planned to do so within the following three years. Their findings were published in the journal Animal Conservation. A majority of hunters – eighty-six percent! – told the researchers they preferred hunting in an area where they knew that a portion of the proceeds went back into local communities. Nearly half of the hunters they interviewed also indicated that they’d be willing to pay an equivalent price for a poorer trophy if it was a problem animal that would have had to be killed anyway.
Lindsey’s team also discovered that hunters were more sensitive to conservation concerns than was perhaps expected. For example, they were less willing to hunt in areas where wild dogs or cheetahs are illegally shot, in countries that intentionally surpass their quotas, or with operators who practice “put-and-take hunting,” which is where trophy animals are released onto a fenced-in property just before a hunt. Together this suggests that hunters were willing to place economic pressure on countries and tour companies to operate in as ethical a manner as possible. Approximately nine out of every ten hunters said they’d be willing to hunt in places that were poor for wildlife viewing or which lacked attractive scenery. That is, they said that they were willing to hunt in areas that would not have otherwise been able to reap an economic benefit from ecotourism.
It’s encouraging that trophy hunters seem willing to take conservation-related issues into consideration when choosing a tour operator, but it is possible that they were simply providing the researchers with the answers that would cast them in the best light. That’s a typical concern for assessments that rely on self-report. Better evidence would come from proof that hunting can be consistent with actual, measurable conservation-related benefits for a species.
Is there such evidence? According to a 2005 paper by Nigel Leader-Williams and colleagues in the Journal of International Wildlife Law and Policy the answer is yes. Leader-Williams describes how the legalization of white rhinoceros hunting in South Africa motivated private landowners to reintroduce the species onto their lands. As a result, the country saw an increase in white rhinos from fewer than one hundred individuals to more than 11,000, even while a limited number were killed as trophies.
In a 2011 letter to Science magazine, Leader-Williams also pointed out that the implementation of controlled, legalized hunting was also beneficial for Zimbabwe’s elephants. “Implementing trophy hunting has doubled the area of the country under wildlife management relative to the 13% in state protected areas,” thanks to the inclusion of private lands, he says. “As a result, the area of suitable land available to elephants and other wildlife has increased, reversing the problem of habitat loss and helping to maintain a sustained population increase in Zimbabwe’s already large elephant population.” It is important to note, however, that the removal of mature elephant males can have other, detrimental consequences (http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20121211-animals-that-seek-teenage-kicks) on the psychological development of younger males. And rhinos and elephants are very different animals, with different needs and behaviors.
Still, the elephants of Zimbabwe and the white rhinos of South Africa seem to suggest that it is possible for conservation and trophy hunting to coexist, at least in principle. It is indeed a tricky, but not impossible, balance to strike.
It is noteworthy that the Leader-Williams’ 2005 paper recommended that legal trophy hunting for black rhinos be focused mainly on older, non-breeding males, or on younger males who have already contributed sufficient genetic material to their breeding groups. They further suggested that revenues from the sale of permits be reinvested into conservation efforts, and that revenues could be maximized by selling permits through international auctions. Namibia’s own hunting policy, it turns out, is remarkably consistent with scientific recommendations.
Even so, some have expressed concern regarding what the larger message of sanctioned trophy hunts might be. Could the possible negative consequences from a PR perspective outweigh the possible benefits from hunting? Can the message that an auction for the hunting of an endangered species like the black rhino brings possibly be reconciled with the competing message that the species requires saving? This question is probably not one that science can adequately address.
However, it might just be worth having a quick look at some numbers. 745 rhinos were killed due to illegal poaching in 2012 in Africa, which amounts to approximately two rhinos each day, mostly for their horns. In South Africa alone, 461 rhinos were killed in just the first half of 2013. Rhino horns are valued for their medicinal uses and for their supposed cancer-curing powers. Of course, rhino horns have no pharmacological value at all, making their harvest even more tragic. The five non-breeding rhinos that Namibia allows to be hunted each year seem paltry in comparison, especially since they are older males who can no longer contribute to population growth.
I don’t understand the desire to kill a magnificent animal for sport, even if the individual is an older non-breeding male. The sale of the right to kill an animal for a trophy surely reflects the value that animal lives hold in at least some corners of our society: that killing an animal for fun isn’t wrong, as long as you can afford it. It is right to worry about the sort of message that sends.
But if an endangered species as charismatic as the black rhinoceros is under such extreme threat from poaching (http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/extinction-countdown/2013/07/12/rhino-horn-south-africa-legalized/), then perhaps the message that the species needs saving has a larger problem to address than the relatively limited loss of animals to wealthy hunters. The real tragedy here is that the one rhino that will be killed as a result of Saturday’s auction has received a disproportionate amount of media attention compared to the hundreds of rhinos lost to poaching each year, which remain largely invisible. And while there remains at least a possibility that sanctioned trophy hunts can benefit the black rhino as they have for the white rhino, there is only one possible consequence of continued poaching. It’s one that conservationists and hunters alike will lament. – Jason G. Goldman | 15 January 2014

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 09:48 PM
Annihilation of wildlife in Zimbabwe
Lawless Zimbabwe provides an even more terrifying example of what can happen without adequate regulation, according to conservationists. Here, poaching in connection with farm occupations is totally out of control.

Johnny Rodrigues, chairperson of the Zimbabwean Conservation Task Force has detailed the problem:
"Nobody knows how many animals we have left since the onset of the land reform programme. I estimate we have lost between 90 and 100 per cent of game on game ranches, over 60 per cent in the conservancies and maybe 40 per cent in our national parks. The new settlers don't bother with quotas. As long as the hunter has money, he can kill to his heart's content.

"There is no law and order here. The rich are getting richer and the poor are starving to death. Our local communities are not getting anything. That is why poaching is so rife. You can't really blame the locals. They are hungry." (46)

According to Rodrigues, South African hunters are taking advantage of the chaos to run illegal safari hunting operations. Out of Africa Safaris are amongst the worst offenders. They bring American tourists to the shoot in Zimbabwe via their US agent Richard Putman in Seminole, Alabama. The outfit is based in All Days in South Africa, just over the border from Zimbabwe
Illegal poaching =/= legal big game hunting

Splits
07-28-2015, 09:54 PM
Illegal poaching =/= legal big game hunting

Oh yes because African countries have such a great reputation for having zero corruption and separating legal from illegal, whether that's poaching or soccer or whatever else. :lmao you are so fucking stupid and hypocritical I can't believe I'm even responding to your idiocy :lmao

Why do you think the organizers of the Cecil raid are under arrest and the American dentist is a fugitive?

:lmao oh my god

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 10:01 PM
Oh yes because African countries have such a great reputation for having zero corruption and separating legal from illegal, whether that's poaching or soccer or whatever else. :lmao you are so fucking stupid and hypocritical I can't believe I'm even responding to your idiocy :lmao

Why do you think the organizers of the Cecil raid are under arrest and the American dentist is a fugitive?

:lmao oh my god

You are the one arguing that killing one can't save thousands and you've fallen completely on your face and have yet to refute my point. Neither one of us would personally participate in such a hunt, but one of us knows the benefits to the hunted species. Again, argue the numbers I presented. Or deflect more and bring up guns, or soccer, or anything else to avoid the question posed to you.

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 10:03 PM
You do realize these paid for game hunts are helping to reverse the decline of said species from the illegal poaching?

Splits
07-28-2015, 10:05 PM
You are the one arguing that killing one can't save thousands and you've fallen completely on your face and have yet to refute my point. Neither one of us would personally participate in such a hunt, but one of us knows the benefits to the hunted species. Again, argue the numbers I presented. Or deflect more and bring up guns, or soccer, or anything else to avoid the question posed to you.

So you expect me to read your wall of un-formatted text (which I actually did) yet you won't read my counterpoint, formatted wall of text (which completely destroyed your "point")?

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 10:12 PM
So you expect me to read your wall of un-formatted text (which I actually did) yet you won't read my counterpoint, formatted wall of text (which completely destroyed your "point")?
I kindly quoted the huge boost in game populations faggot, specifically the White rhino. Kindly highlight your claimed decline from paid for game hunting for me.

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 10:13 PM
You do realize these paid for game hunts are helping to reverse the decline of said species from the illegal poaching?

Spurminator
07-28-2015, 10:49 PM
Did he obtain the same type of hunting permit that blonde chick did that everyone was crying about? I'd never hunt these animals cause personally I think it's fucked up but these limited, expensive permits keep these parks afloat and keep waaaay more animals alive than the few killed each year. The money from these permits is also used to build fences around area farmers properties so their livestock isn't killed by lions, tigers, etc and the meat from these permitted kills goes to feed the villages.


So the money helps conservation. Great. Why didn't he just donate money?

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 11:02 PM
So the money helps conservation. Great. Why didn't he just donate money?

He obviously gets off on it. But you and I are not donating that type of money towards conservation so I don't think it's really our place to judge those bringing in 11 million+ dollars into a desperate economy. I don't support the actual hunting, but you can't deny the benefits to the hunted species. Seriously someone refute the population increases of the hunted game if not for paid for hunting.

Splits
07-28-2015, 11:08 PM
He obviously gets off on it. But you and I are not donating that type of money towards conservation so I don't think it's really our place to judge those bringing in 11 million+ dollars into a desperate economy. I don't support the actual hunting, but you can't deny the benefits to the hunted species. Seriously someone refute the population increases of the hunted game if not for paid for hunting.

A smokescreen for corruption and poaching
Hunters prize rare trophies. To get them, many pay bribes to exceed the hunting quota, shoot the wrong species, age or gender, to use illegal methods or to hunt without a permit. (34)

Trophy hunting depends on effective state regulation and extensive scientific monitoring of animal populations. Neither is feasible in Africa, perceived to be the world's least developed and most corrupt continent. Opening up even a limited legal trade creates a smokescreen for poachers which is almost impossible to police. Prior to 1986, when the whaling moratorium was introduced, legal quotas were widely used as cover for poaching, driving some species near to extinction. The same is happening with trophy hunting of endangered species. (35)

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 11:13 PM
I'll quote this again since you've provided no link or quote to refute the population gains.
:lol It’s encouraging that trophy hunters seem willing to take conservation-related issues into consideration when choosing a tour operator, but it is possible that they were simply providing the researchers with the answers that would cast them in the best light. That’s a typical concern for assessments that rely on self-report. Better evidence would come from proof that hunting can be consistent with actual, measurable conservation-related benefits for a species.
Is there such evidence? According to a 2005 paper by Nigel Leader-Williams and colleagues in the Journal of International Wildlife Law and Policy the answer is yes. Leader-Williams describes how the legalization of white rhinoceros hunting in South Africa motivated private landowners to reintroduce the species onto their lands. As a result, the country saw an increase in white rhinos from fewer than one hundred individuals to more than 11,000, even while a limited number were killed as trophies.
In a 2011 letter to Science magazine, Leader-Williams also pointed out that the implementation of controlled, legalized hunting was also beneficial for Zimbabwe’s elephants. “Implementing trophy hunting has doubled the area of the country under wildlife management relative to the 13% in state protected areas,” thanks to the inclusion of private lands, he says. “As a result, the area of suitable land available to elephants and other wildlife has increased, reversing the problem of habitat loss and helping to maintain a sustained population increase in Zimbabwe’s already large elephant population.” :lol

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 11:14 PM
Show me the same is happening to game species as was whales. I want numbers and you refuse to give them.

Splits
07-28-2015, 11:19 PM
I'll quote this again since you've provided no link or quote to refute the population gains.

Here you go:

These two, out of 84 links I provided (see next post), disprove your wall of text

http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/94/5/editorial.html

http://www.traffic.org/general-reports/traffic_pub_gen9.pdf

Splits
07-28-2015, 11:19 PM
Show me the same is happening to game species as was whales. I want numbers and you refuse to give them.

(1) Sims-Castley, Rebecca, Kerley, Graham I H, and Geach, Beverley, "A Questionnaire -Based Assessment Of The Socio-Economic Significance Of Ecotourism-Based Private Game Reserves In The Eastern Cape", Terrestrial Ecology Research Unit, November 2004
(2) Ibid.
(3) University of Oxford, Zoology Department, Wildlife Conservations Research Unit,http://www.wildcru.org/links/hwangelions/mission.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildcru.org%2Flinks%2Fhwa ngelions%2Fmission.htm&h=jAQHO7Dyf&s=1)
(4) John Mbaria, 'Game Carnage in Tanzania Alarms Kenya', The East African, 04 February 2002,http://www.nationaudio.com/News/EastAfrican/11022002/Regional/Regional15.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationaudio.com%2FNews%2F EastAfrican%2F11022002%2FRegional%2FRegional15.htm l&h=oAQGzRv-L&s=1)
(5) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(6) Wild About Killing 2', League Against Cruel Sports, April 2004,
http://www.bloodybusiness.com/trophy_hunting/Wild_about_killing_2.pdf (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloodybusiness.com%2Ftrop hy_hunting%2FWild_about_killing_2.pdf&h=5AQEYd7Mt&s=1)
(7) Michael de Alessi, 'Private Conservation and Black Rhinos in Zimbabwe: The SavŽ Valley and Bubiana Conservancies', Competitive Enterprise Institute, 01 January 2000
(8) Ian Michler, 'To Snap or Snipe?', Africa Geographic, 02 October 2002
(9) Ibid.
(10) http://www.garethpatterson.com/ (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garethpatterson.com%2F&h=zAQGrpMQ1&s=1)
(11) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(12) South African Department of Environmental Affairs and Tourism press release 22 November 2004
(13) Zvi Bar'el, 'In the Shadow of Kilimanjaro', Haaretz, 28 October 2004,
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/491806.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.com%2Fhasen%2Fspa ges%2F491806.html&h=oAQGzRv-L&s=1)
(14) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe African Wild Life Investigation & Research Centre
(15) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(16) 'Comments on the Draft Policy on Enhancement of Survival Permits for Foreign Species Listed Under the Endangered Species Act', Defenders of Wildlife and Species Survival Network, 17 October 2003,
http://www.ssn.org/es/statements/Group%20Comments%20on%20ESP%20Draft%20Policy.pdf (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ssn.org%2Fes%2Fstatements %2FGroup%2520Comments%2520on%2520ESP%2520Draft%252 0Policy.pdf&h=8AQGy5AUe&s=1)
(17) 'Is 'sanctuary' an illusion?', Animal People, 7 August 2002
(18) 'Game Ranch Profitability in South Africa', Absa Economic Research, Game Management Africa, 2003,http://www.gameranching.co.za/gameranching/publications/grp2003.pdf (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gameranching.co.za%2Fgame ranching%2Fpublications%2Fgrp2003.pdf&h=FAQEEoawJ&s=1)
(19) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe
(20) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(21) Address by Chris Mercer of the Kalahari Raptor Centre to Wildlife & Environment Society of South Africa, 28 August 2003
(22) 'Big Game, Big Bucks: The Alarming Growth of the American Trophy Hunting Industry', The Humane Society of the United States and Humane Society International, 1995.
(23) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe African Wild Life Investigation & Research Centre.
(24) Urquhart and McCendrick, 'Survey of permanent wound tracts in the carcasses of culled wild red deer in Scotland', The Veterinary Record, 19 April 2003
(25) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(26) 'South African Tribe Regains its Land for Conservation', Andrew Maykuth, The Philadelphia Inquirer, 30/05/98
(27) 'Cites approves rhino hunting quotas for Namibia and SA', The Namibian (AFP), 5 October 2004,http://www.namibian.com.na/2004/october/national/046CEB06CD.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.namibian.com.na%2F2004%2F october%2Fnational%2F046CEB06CD.html&h=jAQHO7Dyf&s=1)
(28) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe
(29) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(30) Possible boycott discussion document -Drafted in discussion with the animal welfare community by Chris Mercer and Beverley Pervan of the Kalahari Raptor Centre, authors of the book "For the Love of Wildlife."http://www.raptor.co.za/news/discdoc.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raptor.co.za%2Fnews%2Fdis cdoc.htm&h=pAQH7mQ7z&s=1)
(31) 'The Killing Fields of Loliondo', Maasai Environmental Resource Coalition, April 2002
(32) Josphat Ngonyo, director of Youth for Conservation in 'Bush Policy and Bushmeat', Animal People, October 2003
(33) John Mbaria, 'State is Handfed New Bid to Buy Out KWS', The Daily Nation, 07 August 2004
(34) Doris Hofer, 'The Lion's Share of the Hunt: Trophy Hunting and Conservation - A Review of the Legal Eurasian Tourist Hunting Market and Trophy Trade Under Cites', Traffic Europe Regional Report, 2002.
(35) ANIMAL PEOPLE - June 1994 - Volume III, #5http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/94/5/editorial.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.animalpeoplenews.org%2F94 %2F5%2Feditorial.html&h=vAQH4Traz&s=1)
(36) Clifton Merritt, Animal People, May 1994
(37) Doris Hofer, 'The Lion's Share of the Hunt: Trophy Hunting and Conservation - A Review of the Legal Eurasian Tourist Hunting Market and Trophy Trade Under Cites', Traffic Europe Regional Report, 2002.
(38) 'BC Grizzly Hunt is 'Difficult to Defend' Warns Biologist Hired by the Safari Club', Animal People 01 February 2002
(39) 'The Killing Fields of Loliondo', Maasai Environmental Resource Coalition (MERC), May 2002
(40) Ibid.
(41) Chris Tomlinson, 'Big Game Hunting Threatening Africa', Associated Press, 20 March 2002
(42) 'The Killing Fields of Loliondo', Maasai Environmental Resource Coalition, May 2002
(43) Chris Tomlinson, 'Big Game Hunting Threatening Africa', Associated Press, 20 March 2002
(44) Ibid.
(45) Ted Botha, 'Killing the Killing Fields of Loliondo',http://www.tedbotha.com/raw_pdf/web-24.pdf (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tedbotha.com%2Fraw_pdf%2F web-24.pdf&h=MAQG3bXYx&s=1)
(46) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(47) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(48) Report by afrol News 30 November 2004 (http://www.afrol.com/articles/14444 (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.afrol.com%2Farticles%2F14 444&h=xAQEWzd9W&s=1))
(49) 'Safari Operators Lose 90 per cent of Their Game', Zimbabwe Independent, 21 June 2002
(50) Winter, PE, Sport hunting in Tanzania: Costs and benefits. Reproduced for the Zoological Society of London. 30pp. Undated.
(51) Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002
(52) Gareth Patterson, personal correspondence (November 2004) andhttp://www.bornfree.org.uk/big.cat/bcatnews (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bornfree.org.uk%2Fbig.cat %2Fbcatnews&h=bAQEeMYLw&s=1)
(53) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe,
(54) University of Oxford, Zoology Department, Wildlife Conservations Research Unit,
http://www.wildcru.org/links/hwangelions/mission.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildcru.org%2Flinks%2Fhwa ngelions%2Fmission.htm&h=9AQHhXGo_&s=1)
(55) The Bear Society, http://www.bearsmart.com/bearFacts/Mating.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bearsmart.com%2FbearFacts %2FMating.html&h=0AQG6CxTI&s=1)
(56) Mun Ya Wan Leopard Project, Monash University,http://www.biolsci.monash.edu.au/Honours/leopards/kezi.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biolsci.monash.edu.au%2FH onours%2Fleopards%2Fkezi.htm&h=5AQEYd7Mt&s=1)
(57) Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002.
(58) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe,
(59) University of Oxford, Zoology Department, Wildlife Conservations Research Unit,
http://www.wildcru.org/links/hwangelions/mission.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildcru.org%2Flinks%2Fhwa ngelions%2Fmission.htm&h=eAQHsJUka&s=1)
(60) Ian Michler, 'Botswana's Great Lion Debate', Africa Geographic, 01 October 2001
(61) Slotow, Rob, et al, 'Older bull elephants control young males: Orphaned male adolescents go on killing sprees if mature males aren't around', Nature, 23 November 2000, www.nature.com/cgitaf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v408/n6811/abs/408425a0_fs.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Fcgitaf%2FDyn aPage.taf%3Ffile%3D%252Fnature%252Fjournal%252Fv40 8%252Fn6811%252Fabs%252F408425a0_fs.html&h=XAQEqqy89&s=1)
(62) Josphat Ngonyo, director of Youth for Conservation in 'Bush Policy and Bushmeat', Animal People, October 2003
(63) Ian Michler, 'Botswana's Great Lion Debate', Africa Geographic, 01 January 2001 & Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002.
(64) Ibid.
(65) Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002.
(66) 'Comments on the Draft Policy on Enhancement of Survival Permits for Foreign Species Listed Under the Endangered Species Act', Defenders of Wildlife and Species Survival Network, 17/10/03
(67) http://www.wildcru.org/links/hwangelions (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildcru.org%2Flinks%2Fhwa ngelions&h=qAQEwTL3o&s=1)
(68) Richard Leakey and Virginia Morell, 'Wildlife Wars: My Fight to Save Africa's Natural Treasures', 2001.
(69) Personal correspondence, Louise Joubert, SanWild Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre and Sanctuary,http://www.sanwild.org (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sanwild.org%2F&h=GAQE7smx_&s=1)
(70) Possible boycott discussion document -Drafted in discussion with the animal welfare community by Chris Mercer and Beverley Pervan of the Kalahari Raptor Centre, authors of the book "For the Love of Wildlife."http://www.raptor.co.za/news/discdoc.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raptor.co.za%2Fnews%2Fdis cdoc.htm&h=aAQFw3q74&s=1)
(71) This has been widely documented. Eg. Kalahari Raptor Centre, Michler, Xwe.
(72) 'Rotten Meat… Or Just Unfair Game?', Ian Michler, Africa Geographic, 02/06/02
(73) This has been widely documented. Eg. Kalahari Raptor Centre, Michler, Xwe.
(74) Personal correspondence (November 2004) with Louise Joubert of Sanwild
(75) Address by Chris Mercer of the Kalahari Raptor Centre to Wildlife & Environment Society of South Africa, 28/08/03
(76) 'Norway Offers Deal to Africa 'You Kill Elephants, We'll Kill Whales'', Animal People, 06/97
(77) Norms and standards for the sustainable use of large predators. Government Gazette 25090, Notice 874 of 13 June 2003 as cited by The Environment Movements in South Africa: An Analysis of Animal Based Issues, Campaigns and Organisations August 2003 Research Report for the Centre for Civil Society.
(78) 'Canned Lion Update', Wildlife Action Group news, 28/08/04
(79) http://www.wag.co.za (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wag.co.za%2F&h=iAQF7YRmh&s=1)
(80) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(81) 'South African Tribe Regains its Land for Conservation', Andrew Maykuth, The Philadelphia Inquirer, 30/05/98
(82) Ibid.
(83) http://www.esok.org (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.esok.org%2F&h=ZAQHR1Pe9&s=1)
(84) http://www.lewa.org (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lewa.org%2F&h=vAQH4Traz&s=1)
(85) Correspondence between Environment Minister ****** Morley and Dr Doug Naysmith MP, 11 August 2004.

TheSanityAnnex
07-28-2015, 11:27 PM
I'm not reading 72 pages of your link tonight, try using your own words.



Leader-Williams describes how the legalization of white rhinoceros hunting in South Africa motivated private landowners to reintroduce the species onto their lands. As a result, the country saw an increase in white rhinos from fewer than one hundred individuals to more than 11,000, even while a limited number were killed as trophies.
In a 2011 letter to Science magazine, Leader-Williams also pointed out that the implementation of controlled, legalized hunting was also beneficial for Zimbabwe’s elephants. “Implementing trophy hunting has doubled the area of the country under wildlife management relative to the 13% in state protected areas,” thanks to the inclusion of private lands, he says. “As a result, the area of suitable land available to elephants and other wildlife has increased, reversing the problem of habitat loss and helping to maintain a sustained population increase in Zimbabwe’s already large elephant population.”

if not for the hunting, what led to the increase in the animal populations? Again, in your own words.

InRareForm
07-28-2015, 11:37 PM
Well if you are doing it for the sole reason of preservation do it in a subtle manner. No need to take pictures with a defenseless animal and think you are the man. When in actuality you are a little bitch.

JohnnyMarzetti
07-28-2015, 11:46 PM
Just another white man who feels superior with a weapon.

TheSanityAnnex
07-29-2015, 12:06 AM
(1) Sims-Castley, Rebecca, Kerley, Graham I H, and Geach, Beverley, "A Questionnaire -Based Assessment Of The Socio-Economic Significance Of Ecotourism-Based Private Game Reserves In The Eastern Cape", Terrestrial Ecology Research Unit, November 2004
(2) Ibid.
(3) University of Oxford, Zoology Department, Wildlife Conservations Research Unit,http://www.wildcru.org/links/hwangelions/mission.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildcru.org%2Flinks%2Fhwa ngelions%2Fmission.htm&h=jAQHO7Dyf&s=1)
(4) John Mbaria, 'Game Carnage in Tanzania Alarms Kenya', The East African, 04 February 2002,http://www.nationaudio.com/News/EastAfrican/11022002/Regional/Regional15.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationaudio.com%2FNews%2F EastAfrican%2F11022002%2FRegional%2FRegional15.htm l&h=oAQGzRv-L&s=1)
(5) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(6) Wild About Killing 2', League Against Cruel Sports, April 2004,
http://www.bloodybusiness.com/trophy_hunting/Wild_about_killing_2.pdf (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloodybusiness.com%2Ftrop hy_hunting%2FWild_about_killing_2.pdf&h=5AQEYd7Mt&s=1)
(7) Michael de Alessi, 'Private Conservation and Black Rhinos in Zimbabwe: The SavŽ Valley and Bubiana Conservancies', Competitive Enterprise Institute, 01 January 2000
(8) Ian Michler, 'To Snap or Snipe?', Africa Geographic, 02 October 2002
(9) Ibid.
(10) http://www.garethpatterson.com/ (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garethpatterson.com%2F&h=zAQGrpMQ1&s=1)
(11) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(12) South African Department of Environmental Affairs and Tourism press release 22 November 2004
(13) Zvi Bar'el, 'In the Shadow of Kilimanjaro', Haaretz, 28 October 2004,
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/491806.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.com%2Fhasen%2Fspa ges%2F491806.html&h=oAQGzRv-L&s=1)
(14) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe African Wild Life Investigation & Research Centre
(15) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(16) 'Comments on the Draft Policy on Enhancement of Survival Permits for Foreign Species Listed Under the Endangered Species Act', Defenders of Wildlife and Species Survival Network, 17 October 2003,
http://www.ssn.org/es/statements/Group%20Comments%20on%20ESP%20Draft%20Policy.pdf (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ssn.org%2Fes%2Fstatements %2FGroup%2520Comments%2520on%2520ESP%2520Draft%252 0Policy.pdf&h=8AQGy5AUe&s=1)
(17) 'Is 'sanctuary' an illusion?', Animal People, 7 August 2002
(18) 'Game Ranch Profitability in South Africa', Absa Economic Research, Game Management Africa, 2003,http://www.gameranching.co.za/gameranching/publications/grp2003.pdf (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gameranching.co.za%2Fgame ranching%2Fpublications%2Fgrp2003.pdf&h=FAQEEoawJ&s=1)
(19) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe
(20) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(21) Address by Chris Mercer of the Kalahari Raptor Centre to Wildlife & Environment Society of South Africa, 28 August 2003
(22) 'Big Game, Big Bucks: The Alarming Growth of the American Trophy Hunting Industry', The Humane Society of the United States and Humane Society International, 1995.
(23) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe African Wild Life Investigation & Research Centre.
(24) Urquhart and McCendrick, 'Survey of permanent wound tracts in the carcasses of culled wild red deer in Scotland', The Veterinary Record, 19 April 2003
(25) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(26) 'South African Tribe Regains its Land for Conservation', Andrew Maykuth, The Philadelphia Inquirer, 30/05/98
(27) 'Cites approves rhino hunting quotas for Namibia and SA', The Namibian (AFP), 5 October 2004,http://www.namibian.com.na/2004/october/national/046CEB06CD.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.namibian.com.na%2F2004%2F october%2Fnational%2F046CEB06CD.html&h=jAQHO7Dyf&s=1)
(28) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe
(29) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(30) Possible boycott discussion document -Drafted in discussion with the animal welfare community by Chris Mercer and Beverley Pervan of the Kalahari Raptor Centre, authors of the book "For the Love of Wildlife."http://www.raptor.co.za/news/discdoc.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raptor.co.za%2Fnews%2Fdis cdoc.htm&h=pAQH7mQ7z&s=1)
(31) 'The Killing Fields of Loliondo', Maasai Environmental Resource Coalition, April 2002
(32) Josphat Ngonyo, director of Youth for Conservation in 'Bush Policy and Bushmeat', Animal People, October 2003
(33) John Mbaria, 'State is Handfed New Bid to Buy Out KWS', The Daily Nation, 07 August 2004
(34) Doris Hofer, 'The Lion's Share of the Hunt: Trophy Hunting and Conservation - A Review of the Legal Eurasian Tourist Hunting Market and Trophy Trade Under Cites', Traffic Europe Regional Report, 2002.
(35) ANIMAL PEOPLE - June 1994 - Volume III, #5http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/94/5/editorial.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.animalpeoplenews.org%2F94 %2F5%2Feditorial.html&h=vAQH4Traz&s=1)
(36) Clifton Merritt, Animal People, May 1994
(37) Doris Hofer, 'The Lion's Share of the Hunt: Trophy Hunting and Conservation - A Review of the Legal Eurasian Tourist Hunting Market and Trophy Trade Under Cites', Traffic Europe Regional Report, 2002.
(38) 'BC Grizzly Hunt is 'Difficult to Defend' Warns Biologist Hired by the Safari Club', Animal People 01 February 2002
(39) 'The Killing Fields of Loliondo', Maasai Environmental Resource Coalition (MERC), May 2002
(40) Ibid.
(41) Chris Tomlinson, 'Big Game Hunting Threatening Africa', Associated Press, 20 March 2002
(42) 'The Killing Fields of Loliondo', Maasai Environmental Resource Coalition, May 2002
(43) Chris Tomlinson, 'Big Game Hunting Threatening Africa', Associated Press, 20 March 2002
(44) Ibid.
(45) Ted Botha, 'Killing the Killing Fields of Loliondo',http://www.tedbotha.com/raw_pdf/web-24.pdf (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tedbotha.com%2Fraw_pdf%2F web-24.pdf&h=MAQG3bXYx&s=1)
(46) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(47) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(48) Report by afrol News 30 November 2004 (http://www.afrol.com/articles/14444 (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.afrol.com%2Farticles%2F14 444&h=xAQEWzd9W&s=1))
(49) 'Safari Operators Lose 90 per cent of Their Game', Zimbabwe Independent, 21 June 2002
(50) Winter, PE, Sport hunting in Tanzania: Costs and benefits. Reproduced for the Zoological Society of London. 30pp. Undated.
(51) Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002
(52) Gareth Patterson, personal correspondence (November 2004) andhttp://www.bornfree.org.uk/big.cat/bcatnews (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bornfree.org.uk%2Fbig.cat %2Fbcatnews&h=bAQEeMYLw&s=1)
(53) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe,
(54) University of Oxford, Zoology Department, Wildlife Conservations Research Unit,
http://www.wildcru.org/links/hwangelions/mission.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildcru.org%2Flinks%2Fhwa ngelions%2Fmission.htm&h=9AQHhXGo_&s=1)
(55) The Bear Society, http://www.bearsmart.com/bearFacts/Mating.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bearsmart.com%2FbearFacts %2FMating.html&h=0AQG6CxTI&s=1)
(56) Mun Ya Wan Leopard Project, Monash University,http://www.biolsci.monash.edu.au/Honours/leopards/kezi.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biolsci.monash.edu.au%2FH onours%2Fleopards%2Fkezi.htm&h=5AQEYd7Mt&s=1)
(57) Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002.
(58) Michele Pickover, 'Entrepreneurs in Death: Killing as Sport in South Africa', Xwe,
(59) University of Oxford, Zoology Department, Wildlife Conservations Research Unit,
http://www.wildcru.org/links/hwangelions/mission.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildcru.org%2Flinks%2Fhwa ngelions%2Fmission.htm&h=eAQHsJUka&s=1)
(60) Ian Michler, 'Botswana's Great Lion Debate', Africa Geographic, 01 October 2001
(61) Slotow, Rob, et al, 'Older bull elephants control young males: Orphaned male adolescents go on killing sprees if mature males aren't around', Nature, 23 November 2000, www.nature.com/cgitaf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v408/n6811/abs/408425a0_fs.html (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Fcgitaf%2FDyn aPage.taf%3Ffile%3D%252Fnature%252Fjournal%252Fv40 8%252Fn6811%252Fabs%252F408425a0_fs.html&h=XAQEqqy89&s=1)
(62) Josphat Ngonyo, director of Youth for Conservation in 'Bush Policy and Bushmeat', Animal People, October 2003
(63) Ian Michler, 'Botswana's Great Lion Debate', Africa Geographic, 01 January 2001 & Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002.
(64) Ibid.
(65) Martin Hutter, 'Utilization of Wild Living Animals, Conservation and Sustainable Development: Contradiction in Terms or a Promising Approach?', Pro Wildlife, 2002.
(66) 'Comments on the Draft Policy on Enhancement of Survival Permits for Foreign Species Listed Under the Endangered Species Act', Defenders of Wildlife and Species Survival Network, 17/10/03
(67) http://www.wildcru.org/links/hwangelions (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildcru.org%2Flinks%2Fhwa ngelions&h=qAQEwTL3o&s=1)
(68) Richard Leakey and Virginia Morell, 'Wildlife Wars: My Fight to Save Africa's Natural Treasures', 2001.
(69) Personal correspondence, Louise Joubert, SanWild Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre and Sanctuary,http://www.sanwild.org (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sanwild.org%2F&h=GAQE7smx_&s=1)
(70) Possible boycott discussion document -Drafted in discussion with the animal welfare community by Chris Mercer and Beverley Pervan of the Kalahari Raptor Centre, authors of the book "For the Love of Wildlife."http://www.raptor.co.za/news/discdoc.htm (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raptor.co.za%2Fnews%2Fdis cdoc.htm&h=aAQFw3q74&s=1)
(71) This has been widely documented. Eg. Kalahari Raptor Centre, Michler, Xwe.
(72) 'Rotten Meat… Or Just Unfair Game?', Ian Michler, Africa Geographic, 02/06/02
(73) This has been widely documented. Eg. Kalahari Raptor Centre, Michler, Xwe.
(74) Personal correspondence (November 2004) with Louise Joubert of Sanwild
(75) Address by Chris Mercer of the Kalahari Raptor Centre to Wildlife & Environment Society of South Africa, 28/08/03
(76) 'Norway Offers Deal to Africa 'You Kill Elephants, We'll Kill Whales'', Animal People, 06/97
(77) Norms and standards for the sustainable use of large predators. Government Gazette 25090, Notice 874 of 13 June 2003 as cited by The Environment Movements in South Africa: An Analysis of Animal Based Issues, Campaigns and Organisations August 2003 Research Report for the Centre for Civil Society.
(78) 'Canned Lion Update', Wildlife Action Group news, 28/08/04
(79) http://www.wag.co.za (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wag.co.za%2F&h=iAQF7YRmh&s=1)
(80) Personal correspondence (November 2004)
(81) 'South African Tribe Regains its Land for Conservation', Andrew Maykuth, The Philadelphia Inquirer, 30/05/98
(82) Ibid.
(83) http://www.esok.org (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.esok.org%2F&h=ZAQHR1Pe9&s=1)
(84) http://www.lewa.org (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lewa.org%2F&h=vAQH4Traz&s=1)
(85) Correspondence between Environment Minister ****** Morley and Dr Doug Naysmith MP, 11 August 2004.

:lol fucking idiot. Find some data that isn't 10+ years old.
:lol tech savvy

JoeChalupa
07-29-2015, 05:42 AM
I just don't get the thrill of the kill. There is plenty of blame to go around but bottom line is the Benjamins. He whom has, takes.

boutons_deux
07-29-2015, 06:06 AM
I just don't get the thrill of the kill. There is plenty of blame to go around but bottom line is the Benjamins. He whom has, takes.

TPR has an article on CWD, chronic wasting diseases(brain rot), is now a threat in TX farmed white tailed deer in the Hill Country.

http://tpr.org/post/chronic-wasting-disease-continues-threaten-texas-2-billion-deer-industry

They mentioned that breeding has produced big males with huge racks. The males sell for about $30K. But then how much does a Great White Hunter pay to shoot a $30K animal? I suppose room and board, booze, is included, and maybe a couple whores.

The entire business of dickless rich people paying many $Ks to shoot penned up animals is so silly

boutons_deux
07-29-2015, 06:15 AM
hunting business raises endangered animals to kill them. gun fellator logic! :lol


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/dentist-who-killed-cecil-the-lion-faces-calls-for-prosecution/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

pgardn
07-29-2015, 07:51 AM
not saying the guy's not an asshole, but this is the same approach guy harvey takes with fishing conservation. same with CCA. often times it's the wealthy fisherman/hunters who put forth the most money so their game can flourish.

CCA is a good group.
the strategy for raising money is brilliant:

Liquor up a bunch of guys who are sort of fisherman. Auction off fishing trips that are hugely overpriced. Let them show off to each other by outbidding one another for already overpriced guided trips. Use the money for conservation efforts. Oh, ya gotta buy a table for your business at the event. Many of the businesses that buy tables do it for the fishermen in that business. They also supply models at CCA events to serve drinks. So one can also observe a bunch of fisherman failing to haul in pretty girls walking around in pumps that make them 9' tall.

The fisherman is among the most noble human American on Earth.
So there's that ramble for the day. I will now go.

pgardn
07-29-2015, 08:38 AM
Walter is receiving death threats.

http://www.ibtimes.com/who-walter-palmer-dentist-identified-cecil-lion-killer-bombarded-death-threats-2028044

Boots, would you tase him broh?

boutons_deux
07-29-2015, 08:43 AM
A picture of loneliness: you are looking at the last male northern white rhino

http://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/5/12/1431429182020/Sudan-the-last-male-north-009.jpg?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&

The image of Sudan the rhino, surrounded by the armed guards who protect him from poachers, shows how little humans have learned since the ice age
surrounded by the armed guards who protect him from poachers, shows how little humans have learned since the ice

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/12/last-male-northern-white-rhino (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/12/last-male-northern-white-rhino)



There Are Now Only 4 Northern White Rhinos Left On Earth


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/northern-white-rhino-population_55b7d1b9e4b0a13f9d1a83bb

Clipper Nation
07-29-2015, 08:49 AM
ITT: Libtards bash one man for killing one animal. Meanwhile, not a peep from the left on how their beloved PETA kills thousands of animals per year.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2979220

boutons_deux
07-29-2015, 09:06 AM
ITT: Libtards bash one man for killing one animal. Meanwhile, not a peep from the left on how their beloved PETA kills thousands of animals per year.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2979220

unwanted pregnancies, unwanted domestic animals, you Repugs and rightwingnuts offer NO solution.

Splits
07-29-2015, 09:22 AM
:lol the WH petition is almost 1/2 way there to extradite this fucker https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/extradite-minnesotan-walter-james-palmer-face-justice-zimbabwe

boutons_deux
07-29-2015, 09:27 AM
Lion-killing dentist Walter Palmer also preyed on women, sexual harassment claim reveals

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/lion-killing-dentist-walter-palmer-also-preyed-on-women-sexual-harassment-claim-reveals/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

DisAsTerBot
07-29-2015, 10:13 AM
ITT: Libtards bash one man for killing one animal. Meanwhile, not a peep from the left on how their beloved PETA kills thousands of animals per year.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2979220

start a thread on it if you want discussion, you pathetic fuck

DMX7
07-29-2015, 10:48 AM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/a6/a6e872a3a830f127c07f0e3c045c40d100ffbdd699a8c3a854 648097f0226bee.jpg

That's basically us these days -- or it feels like that.

boutons_deux
07-29-2015, 10:51 AM
US dentist accused of killing Cecil the lion 'upset' as hunter becomes hunted

“Palmer shot Cecil with a bow and arrow but this shot didn’t kill him,” he said. “They tracked him down and found him 40 hours later when they shot him with a gun. The hunters then found that the dead lion was wearing a tracking collar, which they unsuccessfully tried to hide.”

“Cecil was skinned and beheaded … Walter Palmer apparently paid $50,000 for the kill and we assume Theo Bronkhorst received this money.”

Noting that Palmer had learned to shoot at age five and was “capable of skewering a playing card from 100 yards with his compound bow,” the article said he had paid $45,000 at auction to take part in the hunt, with the proceeds being used to help fund the elk habitat.

As the hunting season began, Palmer was on probation for lying to authorities over the exact location where he had killed a black bear in northern Wisconsin in 2006.
A 2008 Flickr photo album by Trophy Hunt America and Porcupine Creek Outfitters, a company that leads hunting expeditions, shows Palmer posing next to a variety of slain animals, including a wood bison and a lion. In other online photos Palmer sits next to a slain rhino – the caption stating that the photo was taken in South Africa (http://www.theguardian.com/world/africa) – or holds up a 175-pound leopard in Zimbabwe.

A Texan hunter shot an elderly black rhino (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/may/21/texan-paid-350000-kills-endangered-black-rhino-africa) in Namibia in May after buying a government-issued licence for $350,000 (£224,000).

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/28/walter-palmer-dentist-accused-killing-cecil-lion-upset-hunter-zimbabwe

USA and Zimbabwe have an extradition agreement. 15 years in a Zimbabwe prison is too little.

baseline bum
07-29-2015, 12:00 PM
What a faggot, this guy already has a felony conviction for killing a black bear in an illegal area, and then claiming he shot it in a legal hunting zone.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cecil-the-lion-man-accused-of-illegally-killing-lion-convicted-in-2006-bear-hunt/

I hope he gets extradited to Zimbabwe and catches HIV-2 in a prison there.

TheSanityAnnex
07-29-2015, 12:05 PM
:lol the WH petition is almost 1/2 way there to extradite this fucker https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/extradite-minnesotan-walter-james-palmer-face-justice-zimbabwe

:lol ITT: Splits unaware he was presenting 10+ year old and now pretending it didn't happen. :lol

PS-where is my formatted avatar faggot?

baseline bum
07-29-2015, 12:07 PM
Faggot killed the bear 40 miles outside the permitted area, not buying his OOPS defense here either.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/cecil-lion-killer-walter-james-palmer-has-bear-related-felony-n400226

DarrinS
07-29-2015, 12:12 PM
Doesn't seem like much of a "hunt". Shouldn't people be equally outraged about those selling the hunting "service"?

baseline bum
07-29-2015, 12:15 PM
Doesn't seem like much of a "hunt". Shouldn't people be equally outraged about those selling the hunting "service"?

They'll be going to jail most likely.

boutons_deux
07-29-2015, 12:15 PM
Doesn't seem like much of a "hunt". Shouldn't people be equally outraged about those selling the hunting "service"?

the two "guides" were arrested and in court today

boutons_deux
07-29-2015, 12:27 PM
https://webmail.hctc.coop/owa/attachment.ashx?id=RgAAAABae8dA4Ak6S7tuF7GN06DNBwB TmkKIfd3sS4cnZndlETU8ABeonGsbAADguxsR5KNcSLLeE1rSn o9MAAAAL4MLAAAJ&attcnt=1&attid0=BAAAAAAA&attcid0=image001.jpg%4001D0C9F9.B7558820

DMX7
07-29-2015, 12:38 PM
Doesn't seem like much of a "hunt". Shouldn't people be equally outraged about those selling the hunting "service"?

Not equally, since he killed them at the end of the day, but people are mad at these service providers. They're probably going to jail.

boutons_deux
07-29-2015, 02:38 PM
American Who Killed Cecil the Lion Closes Dental Practice


http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/07/30/us/30lion-web/30lion-web-master675.jpg

A memorial to Cecil the lion outside Dr. Walter J. Palmer's closed dental office in Bloomington, Minn. :lol

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/30/us/cecil-the-lion-walter-palmer.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

TheSanityAnnex
07-29-2015, 06:57 PM
So you expect me to read your wall of un-formatted text (which I actually did) yet you won't read my counterpoint, formatted wall of text (which completely destroyed your "point")?
Paging :lolP We've got a 10 year old counterpoint destroyer that needs verification Paging :lolP

Splits
07-30-2015, 12:39 PM
Paging :lolP We've got a 10 year old counterpoint destroyer that needs verification Paging :lolP

What are you asking for?

TheSanityAnnex
07-30-2015, 01:30 PM
What are you asking for?Did you know your 10 year old counterpoints are irrelevant to our discussion?

DarrinS
07-30-2015, 05:20 PM
http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/lion-murderer-walt-palmer-has-done-more-for-conservatio-1720901473

Clipper Nation
07-30-2015, 05:23 PM
http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/lion-murderer-walt-palmer-has-done-more-for-conservatio-1720901473
I see Splitcuck has already commented on the article:

:cry "Every one of those rich motherfuckers that get their rocks off on killing endangered big game in Africa should be fucking thrown in prison and all their assets seized to pay for conservation. Period." :cry

Splits
07-30-2015, 05:43 PM
I see Splitcuck has already commented on the article:

:cry "Every one of those rich motherfuckers that get their rocks off on killing endangered big game in Africa should be fucking thrown in prison and all their assets seized to pay for conservation. Period." :cry



Not me but agree 100%. And you don't get to pass judgement, you're not rich and I am.

TheSanityAnnex
07-30-2015, 05:50 PM
Not me but agree 100%. And you don't get to pass judgement, you're not rich and I am. If not for these paid hunts where would the millions of dollars for conservation efforts come from? What incentive would private land owners have to open up their lands if not for hunters, thereby allowing the game species to thrive and grow?