Did I Stumble Upon Wild Cobra's Facebook?

[spurraider21]

http://i.imgur.com/9CMWZAn.png?1

[Th'Pusher]

http://i.imgur.com/9CMWZAn.png?1
WC? That could have been posted by 90% of the Republican Party's base. Morons like the cobra are a dime a dozen.

[angrydude]

so killing simba was a really big deal huh?

[Th'Pusher]

so killing simba was a really big deal huh?
People seem to respond to it emotionally, much like they respond to women electing to donate tissue from their aborted fetus to research.

[vy65]

Too well written tbh

[Clipper Nation]

WC? That could have been posted by 90% of the Republican Party's base. Morons like the cobra are a dime a dozen.

Meanwhile, the average liberal:

http://i.imgur.com/a9AQw6S.png
(:lmao Literally offended by an empty panel)

http://i.imgur.com/EJdKsEL.png

http://i.imgur.com/N6icAL5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xtHbBNO.png

http://i.imgur.com/5KFZQ0P.png

http://i.imgur.com/lmaZpkM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tvFNktc.png

http://i.imgur.com/2KSbH1L.jpg

[angrydude]

People seem to respond to it emotionally, much like they respond to women electing to donate tissue from their aborted fetus to research.

killing simba is a big deal. genocide of unborn is no big deal.

got it.

[angrydude]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5C8QrKwEcA

[Th'Pusher]

killing simba is a big deal. genocide of unborn is no big deal.

got it.
Straw man. I simply said both appealed to people's emotions.

[angrydude]

Straw man. I simply said both appealed to people's emotions.

yes but I'm talking about the posts merits. You called the guy a moron so you clearly don't agree with him.

[Clipper Nation]

Just stumbled upon Th'Slurper's blog:

https://i.imgur.com/qnDpq0F.png

[Th'Pusher]

yes but I'm talking about the posts merits. You called the guy a moron so you clearly don't agree with him.
Do you think his post showed intellect?

[Clipper Nation]

:lol This must be Blizzardwizard (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42696)'s Twitter:

http://i.imgur.com/cKKxpTF.png

:cry "Blood donation and organ donation are conspiracies by the rich! BERNIE 2016!" :cry

[Blizzardwizard]

:lol This must be Blizzardwizard (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42696)'s Twitter:

http://i.imgur.com/cKKxpTF.png

:cry "Blood donation and organ donation are conspiracies by the rich! BERNIE 2016!" :cry

I don't hate blood or organ donation.

But you got the Bernie 2016 bit spot on.

[spurraider21]

of course people from other countries would want bernie. he'd bend over for them.

[HI-FI]

Just stumbled upon Th'Slurper's blog:

https://i.imgur.com/qnDpq0F.png

:lol

[m>s]

Wild Chodebrah is a cuckservative he's too soft, like lib-lite

[Spurminator]

If you're not constantly living in fear and have time for other concerns, you're a big dummy head.

[DarrinS]

The lion story is way overblown, tbh.

[m>s]

If you're not constantly living in fear and have time for other concerns, you're a big dummy head.
Triggered.

[Blizzardwizard]

of course people from other countries would want bernie. he'd bend over for them.

Plenty of people in the US want Bernie too. You'll find that out come Iowa and New Hampshire primaries.

[spurraider21]

Plenty of people in the US want Bernie two. You'll find that out come Iowa and New Hampshire primaries.
i'd take anybody over Billary, except Trump :lol

[Splits]

Meanwhile, your average libertarian...

7QDv4sYwjO0

https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/libertarian-lifeguards.jpg?w=500&h=336

https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/libertarian-fishing.jpg?w=500&h=162

https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/24-types-of-libertarians.jpg

[Big Dog]

Meanwhile, the average liberal:

http://i.imgur.com/a9AQw6S.png
(:lmao Literally offended by an empty panel)

http://i.imgur.com/EJdKsEL.png

http://i.imgur.com/N6icAL5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xtHbBNO.png

http://i.imgur.com/5KFZQ0P.png

http://i.imgur.com/lmaZpkM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tvFNktc.png

http://i.imgur.com/2KSbH1L.jpg
:lmao CN taking the forum libs to the tree of woe

[Big Dog]

Meanwhile, your average libertarian...

7QDv4sYwjO0

https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/libertarian-lifeguards.jpg?w=500&h=336

https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/libertarian-fishing.jpg?w=500&h=162

https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/24-types-of-libertarians.jpg
^ Terrorist sympathizer

[Clipper Nation]

Meanwhile, your average libertarian...

7QDv4sYwjO0

https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/libertarian-lifeguards.jpg?w=500&h=336

https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/libertarian-fishing.jpg?w=500&h=162

https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/24-types-of-libertarians.jpg
You, when la migra arrives:

http://i.imgur.com/Nlz9LtM.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

Plenty of people in the US want Bernie too. You'll find that out come Iowa and New Hampshire primaries.
Hillary is slaughtering Bernie in every poll :lol

[Blizzardwizard]

Hillary is slaughtering Bernie in every poll :lol

Considering Hillary is backed by Bigcorp and had about a 70% poll lead on everybody and Sanders is now only 20% behind or less in most polls, he's doing a damn good job.

[Blizzardwizard]

https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/libertarian-lifeguards.jpg?w=500&h=336

https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/libertarian-fishing.jpg?w=500&h=162



:lmao

"W-why should I help anybody, nobody helps me :cry :cry"

[Clipper Nation]

Considering Hillary is backed by Bigcorp and had about a 70% poll lead on everybody and Sanders is now only 20% behind or less in most polls, he's doing a damn good job.
:lol "Only 20% behind"
:lol Despite being propped up by BigUnion, he's still getting BTFO by the least likeable presidential candidate in our lifetime.

[Blizzardwizard]

:lol "Only 20% behind"
:lol Despite being propped up by BigUnion, he's still getting BTFO by the least likeable presidential candidate in our lifetime.

Acting as if labour unions are as powerful as Bigcorp and all of Hillary's private sector buddies :lol

I guess you hate labor unions too considering you're just a GOP shill :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Acting as if labour unions are as powerful as Bigcorp and all of Hillary's private sector buddies :lol
:lol Acting like BigUnion is any different than BigCorp

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304782404577488584031850026

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/11/03/big-political-spending-by-unions-paid-with-dues/

http://freebeacon.com/issues/seven-unions-top-kochs-in-super-pac-spending-and-thats-just-the-money-we-know-about/


I guess you hate labor unions too considering you're just a GOP shill :lol
I don't hate unions. We have the constitutional right to freely associate, after all. The government shouldn't be hopping into bed with them or corporations, though.

[Splits]

:lol Acting like BigUnion is any different than BigCorp

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304782404577488584031850026

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/11/03/big-political-spending-by-unions-paid-with-dues/

http://freebeacon.com/issues/seven-unions-top-kochs-in-super-pac-spending-and-thats-just-the-money-we-know-about/


I don't hate unions. We have the constitutional right to freely associate, after all. The government shouldn't be hopping into bed with them or corporations, though.

What about government hopping into a woman's uterus?

[Clipper Nation]

What about government hopping into a woman's uterus?
What about you hopping the border?

[Splits]

What about you hopping the border?

I'm the lightest skinned cracker you'll ever meet.

Now answer the question. Should the government regulate a woman's uterus?

[Blizzardwizard]

What about government hopping into a woman's uterus?

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2300769/hesheatingup.gif

[Clipper Nation]

I'm the lightest skinned cracker you'll ever meet.
That's what they all say while la migra is deporting them.


Now answer the question. Should the government regulate a woman's uterus?
The government shouldn't sanction murder.

[Splits]

The government shouldn't sanction murder.

A couple of cells smashed together is not a person. Why do you think government should force women to do something they don't want to do?

(for all others reading, libertarian anti-choice has nothing to do with ethics or values, it is all about slut-shaming. they're an extremely misogynistic group. the whole "I got mine, fuck you" mentality)

[Clipper Nation]

A couple of cells smashed together is not a person. Why do you think government should force women to do something they don't want to do?

(for all others reading, libertarian anti-choice has nothing to do with ethics or values, it is all about slut-shaming. they're an extremely misogynistic group)
:lmao SJW faggot

[Blizzardwizard]

The government shouldn't sanction murder.You love 'freedom' so shouldn't you allow people to be FREE and to CHOOSE? Even though I'm a fan of BigGov, you seem to be even more of a BigGov fan, controlling people's uterus'.

[Splits]

:cry I can't defend my extreme hypocrisy so I use lmao emojis and call people faggots when they expose it :cry

[Clipper Nation]

You love 'freedom' so shouldn't you allow people to be FREE and to CHOOSE? Even though I'm a fan of BigGov, you seem to be even more of a BigGov fan, controlling people's uterus'.
Just thought of another example of libcuck hypocrisy:

> "Abortion is about the right to choose!"

> "...except for the father, or the baby, or the taxpayer, or the doctor, etc. They're not allowed to choose."

[Blizzardwizard]

Just thought of another example of libcuck hypocrisy:

> "Abortion is about the right to choose!"

> "...except for the father, or the baby, or the taxpayer, or the doctor, etc. They're not allowed to choose."

You're struggling to spin your complete annihilation over abortion, and being outed as an anti freedom Libertarian who wants to control uterus', so naturally deflect.

:wakeup

[Blizzardwizard]

Just thought of another example of libcuck hypocrisy:

> "Abortion is about the right to choose!"

> "...except for the father, or the baby, or the taxpayer, or the doctor, etc. They're not allowed to choose."

Anyway, fathers, babies, taxpayers, doctors are all REAL living things, whereas a few cells clumped together are NOT living things.

[Splits]

Just thought of another example of libcuck hypocrisy:

> "Abortion is about the right to choose!"

> "...except for the father, or the baby, or the taxpayer, or the doctor, etc. They're not allowed to choose."

Just another example of libertarian "logic".

The father usually agrees. If not, it isn't his body or life who is permanently affected.

The "baby" is not a baby, it's a couple of cells.

The taxpayer has no involvement. The US congress has repeatedly forbid a single penny of taxpayer money to go towards abortion. Including in the ACA

The doctor chooses to provide a legal service.

[Splits]

Anyway, fathers, babies, taxpayers, doctors are all REAL living things, whereas a few cells clumped together are NOT living things.

[Splits]

You're struggling to spin your complete annihilation over abortion, and being outed as an anti freedom Libertarian who wants to control uterus', so naturally deflect.

:wakeup

His ilk think of women as lesser beings, that are to be used and controlled by their superiors (him). Slut-shaming is a very effective way to "keep them in their place".

[Clipper Nation]

Just another example of libertarian "logic".

The father usually agrees. If not, it isn't his body or life who is permanently affected.
The father is not legally allowed to have any say in the matter, despite being 50% responsible for the pregnancy, and isn't even required to be informed.


The "baby" is not a baby, it's a couple of cells.
It's a human beingPERIOD


The taxpayer has no involvement. The US congress has repeatedly forbid a single penny of taxpayer money to go towards abortion. Including in the ACA
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388189/obamacares-taxpayer-funded-abortions-carl-anderson


The doctor chooses to provide a legal service.
"Pro-choice" liberals would like doctors to have no choice in the services they provide in the case of abortion.

[Blizzardwizard]

His ilk think of women as lesser beings, that are to be used and controlled by their superiors (him). Slut-shaming is a very effective way to "keep them in their place".

Agreed, CN's ridiculous attitudes towards women and abortions are ones that old white hacks like Ron Paul hold dear.

[Clipper Nation]

Pro-"choice" in action:

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/06/dallas-police-four-charged-with-beating-14-year-old-family-member-to-abort-unborn-child.html/

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/lawsuit-planned-parenthood-left-dismembered-baby-in-woman.html

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/02/17/former-planned-parenthood-worker-it-was-a-money-grubbing-evil-very-sad-sad-place-to-work/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/11/15/why-chinas-one-child-policy-still-leads-to-forced-abortions-and-always-will/

[Blizzardwizard]

"Pro-choice" liberals would like doctors to have no choice in the services they provide in the case of abortion.

Doctors get paid quite a healthy salary to do their work and provide the abortions, so of course they should have to. You Libertarians though would force a women to keep a baby even if they can not pay for the baby's care, health insurance, education etc. And I'm guessing you wouldn't pay these struggling women even a dime to look after their child, despite the fact that it was YOU who forces them to keep the baby. After you make them keep the baby, they'll be forced to ask the government for money but you won't give them any because 'the government shouldn't interfere in healthcare :cry'. This means the baby will likely die or be severely malnourished, and it'll be the the fat white Libertarian's sitting on their stacks of cash that'll blame the mother for the babies death, even though she didn't want the fucking baby in the first place.

Libertarians, they'll make the government intervene when it suits them, but as soon as people need money due to the government's intervention they'll say' fuck that, it's your problem now.'

[Splits]

The father is not legally allowed to have any say in the matter, despite being 50% responsible for the pregnancy, and isn't even required to be informed.

Your "facts" are indeed, not facts. It depends on what state you live in. Typical libertard: lie to cover his hypocrisy.



It's a human beingPERIOD

It's not a human until it could live outside the wombPERIOD



http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388189/obamacares-taxpayer-funded-abortions-carl-anderson

Sweet. I hope that's true. Women who don't earn enough and need taxpayer assistance should be able to access any legal medical procedure. Laws outlawing taxpayer funded abortion are draconian. I'm glad they've found a way around them.



"Pro-choice" liberals would like doctors to have no choice in the services they provide in the case of abortion.

The very few doctors left who provide a critical, legal, medical service to women live under constant threat. They are heroes.

[Clipper Nation]

Your "facts" are indeed, not facts. It depends on what state you live in. Typical libertard: lie to cover his hypocrisy.
The Supreme Court has routinely ruled against men's right to choose. Planned Parenthood v. Danforth ruled that the father's consent isn't required, Planned Parenthood v. Casey ruled against the father needing to be informed. Pro-"choice" activist judges have made sure to rule any attempt at giving the father a say in the matter as unconstitutional.


It's not a human until it could live outside the wombPERIOD
It isPERIOD


Sweet. I hope that's true. Women who don't earn enough and need taxpayer assistance should be able to access any legal medical procedure. Laws outlawing taxpayer funded abortion are draconian. I'm glad they've found a way around them.
More pro-"choice" hypocrisy. If I don't want to fund abortions, I shouldn't be forced to.

[Blizzardwizard]

More pro-"choice" hypocrisy. If I don't want to fund abortions, I shouldn't be forced to.


So you'll make thousands of women suffer just so you'll feel better?

The fuck :lol

+ Nice evasion of my previous post CN. You evade as much as your buddies BigCorp evade paying taxes.

[Clipper Nation]

So you'll make thousands of women suffer just so you'll feel better?

The fuck :lol
If you feel that strongly about it, then you should have no problem voluntarily donating money to abortion clinics and pro-"choice" organizations, right?

The irony of a movement that calls themselves pro-"choice" demanding that everyone should be forced to fund abortions is rich.

[Blizzardwizard]

Doctors get paid quite a healthy salary to do their work and provide the abortions, so of course they should have to. You Libertarians though would force a women to keep a baby even if they can not pay for the baby's care, health insurance, education etc. And I'm guessing you wouldn't pay these struggling women even a dime to look after their child, despite the fact that it was YOU who forces them to keep the baby. After you make them keep the baby, they'll be forced to ask the government for money but you won't give them any because 'the government shouldn't interfere in healthcare :cry'. This means the baby will likely die or be severely malnourished, and it'll be the the fat white Libertarian's sitting on their stacks of cash that'll blame the mother for the babies death, even though she didn't want the fucking baby in the first place.

Libertarians, they'll make the government intervene when it suits them, but as soon as people need money due to the government's intervention they'll say' fuck that, it's your problem now.'

[Blizzardwizard]

If you feel that strongly about it, then you should have no problem voluntarily donating money to abortion clinics and pro-"choice" organizations, right?

The irony of a movement that calls themselves pro-"choice" demanding that everyone should be forced to fund abortions is rich.

Just like you are forcing people to keep their baby, and will have no problem shutting them down when they come looking for welfare + medicaid to keep said baby alive.

[Splits]

The Supreme Court has routinely ruled against men's right to choose. Planned Parenthood v. Danforth ruled that the father's consent isn't required, Planned Parenthood v. Casey ruled against the father needing to be informed. Pro-"choice" activist judges have made sure to rule any attempt at giving the father a say in the matter as unconstitutional.

Which is the way it should be. Even the extremely right-wing Supreme court recognizes a woman's right to her own body. Yet if you live in Kentucky, Pennsylvania, or South Carolina you cannot get an abortion without spousal consent, defying the law of the land. And then you have faggot "constitutionalist" libertards are still trying to squirm their way around the constitution because slut-shaming is so important to them.



It isPERIOD


Not according to 40 years of Constitutional interpretation. The Constitution says cells are not humans until they can live outside the wombPERIOD.




More pro-"choice" hypocrisy. If I don't want to fund abortions, I shouldn't be forced to.

Then move. Or stop paying taxes. The Constitution doesn't give the taxpayer line-item veto power. I hate Israel and don't want to fund that terrorist state, I shouldn't be forced to. I don't want to fund for-profit prisons, I shouldn't be forced to.

:cry I don't want to fund X, I shouldn't be forced to and it is all the fault of libtards :cry

[Splits]

The irony of a movement that calls themselves pro-"life" demanding that everyone should be forced to carry incest or rape babies is rich.

[Splits]

Just like you are forcing people to keep their baby, and will have no problem shutting them down when they come looking for welfare + medicaid to keep said baby alive.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6vPm5BNRSMQ/UFNK5oJUdiI/AAAAAAAABaI/9hbEGOA57Vs/s1600/nuke.gif

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6vPm5BNRSMQ/UFNK5oJUdiI/AAAAAAAABaI/9hbEGOA57Vs/s1600/nuke.gif

Where you been Splits?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251459&page=3

[Blizzardwizard]

:cry I don't want to fund X, I shouldn't be forced to and it is all the fault of libtards :cry

:cry Why should I have to pay taxes to fund schools and hospitals, I've finished education and I'm not sick :cry

[Splits]

:cry Why should I have to pay taxes to fund schools and hospitals, I've finished education and I'm not sick :cry

:lmao

:cry I got mine, fuck you :cry

Making fun of "libertarians" is so easy it's comical

[Clipper Nation]

Which is the way it should be. Even the extremely right-wing Supreme court recognizes a woman's right to her own body. Yet if you live in Kentucky, Pennsylvania, or South Carolina you cannot get an abortion without spousal consent, defying the law of the land. And then you have faggot "constitutionalist" libertards are still trying to squirm their way around the constitution because slut-shaming is so important to them.
:lmao "Extremely right-wing" Supreme Court
:lmao Pro-"choice," unless you're the father
:lmao Whining about "slut-shaming" while being a misandrist


The Constitution says cells are not humans until they can live outside the wombPERIOD.
Which clause of the Constitution says this?


I hate Israel and don't want to fund that terrorist state, I shouldn't be forced to. I don't want to fund for-profit prisons, I shouldn't be forced to.
:cry Then move. Or stop paying taxes. :cry

[Splits]

:lmao "Extremely right-wing" Supreme Court
:lmao Pro-"choice," unless you're the father

Roberts, an extreme right-wing authoritarian (who you should theoretically hate if you had an ounce of dignity or allegiance to "libertarianism") replaced a centrist in Rhenquist. Sam Alito, about as far to the right as you can get in any sense of the word, replaced a centrist in O'Connor. So yeah, the SC has never been further to the extreme right in my lifetime.



Which clause of the Constitution says this?

Roe v. Wade



:cry Then move. Or stop paying taxes. :cry

The irony is that I have lived in 3 different European countries, all with lower taxes, and can move back at any time I wish because I have irreplaceable skills and speak 4 languages. Meanwhile, you're forever stuck in this shithole country barely speaking 1 language :lmao

[Blizzardwizard]

The irony is that I have lived in 3 different European countries, all with lower taxes, and can move back at any time I wish because I have irreplaceable skills and speak 4 languages. Meanwhile, you're forever stuck in this shithole country barely speaking 1 language :lmao

People call this place bad but I'd rather be here than the land of the free*

*does not include women wanting an abortion

[Spurminator]

The father is not legally allowed to have any say in the matter, despite being 50% responsible for the pregnancy, and isn't even required to be informed.

There you have it, folks, releasing sperm is exactly the same as being pregnant for 40 weeks. #MensRights

[Wild Cobra]

The father is not legally allowed to have any say in the matter, despite being 50% responsible for the pregnancy, and isn't even required to be informed.


Since this ist the case, the father shouldn't have to pay child support either.

[Clipper Nation]

Roe v. Wade
...is not a clause of the Constitution, you retard.


The irony is that I have lived in 3 different European countries, all with lower taxes, and can move back at any time I wish because I have irreplaceable skills and speak 4 languages.
And you still illegally immigrated here - that just says it all :lol

[SocialJusticeWarrior]

:cry I got mine, fuck you :cry

Making fun of "libertarians" is so easy it's comical

I agree. I'm entitled to theirs, fuck them!

[SocialJusticeWarrior]

His ilk think of women as lesser beings, that are to be used and controlled by their superiors (him). Slut-shaming is a very effective way to "keep them in their place".

Right on! Disagreeing with us means you hate women!

[Splits]

...is not a clause of the Constitution, you retard.


And you still illegally immigrated here - that just says it all :lol

SCOTUS interpretation is law of the land, retard.

Why do you just makeup bullshit and laugh at it? Do you find illegal immigration so funny that accusing random rich white guys of it is comical?

[SocialJusticeWarrior]

random rich white guys
You're a rich white guy? Why do you hate women and the poor so much, you misogynist scum?

[playjimmer]

:lol "Only 20% behind"
:lol Despite being propped up by BigUnion, he's still getting BTFO by the least likeable presidential candidate in our lifetime.
And it is more of because of how bad hillary has done than anything else.

[Splits]

You're a rich white guy? Why do you hate women and the poor so much, you misogynist scum?

I donate 25% of my earnings to charity and volunteer at a battered woman's shelter on the weekends, faggot.

[m>s]

I donate 25% of my earnings to charity and volunteer at a battered woman's shelter on the weekends, faggot.
Fucking liar

[Splits]

Fucking liar

I walk the talk, faggot.

[vy65]

There you have it, folks, releasing sperm is exactly the same as being pregnant for 40 weeks. #MensRights

This is beyond retarded.

[Clipper Nation]

I walk the talk, faggot.
:lol Fake Internet life

[Splits]

:lol Fake Internet life

Except I actually posted my W-2. Do I have to also post section B of my 8283 to show I gave over $50,000 to charity last year? You want pictures of me at The House of Ruth?

Faggot tough guys

[m>s]

I walk the talk, faggot.
Think about what a faggot you sound like whether it's true or not

[m>s]

Except I actually posted my W-2. Do I have to also post section B of my 8283 to show I gave over $50,000 to charity last year? You want pictures of me at The House of Ruth?

Faggot tough guysyeah post proof, that'll tell us

[Spurminator]

This is beyond retarded.

If you mean it's beyond retarded to believe that releasing sperm should give you equal decision rights on whether or not someone carries a 40 week pregnancy to term, I agree completely.

[vy65]

If you mean it's beyond retarded to believe that releasing sperm should give you equal decision rights on whether or not someone carries a 40 week pregnancy to term, I agree completely.

If she does that, against the man's wishes, should is he be obligated to pay child support?

[DarrinS]

Except I actually posted my W-2. Do I have to also post section B of my 8283 to show I gave over $50,000 to charity last year? You want pictures of me at The House of Ruth?

Faggot tough guys

Post it

[Spurminator]

If she does that, against the man's wishes, should is he be obligated to pay child support?

That's a whole other beast of a discussion that I still haven't completely wrapped my head around, but right now I don't agree with child support in these cases unless they are married.

Either way, I know that abortion policy shouldn't be driven by perceived flaws in child support policy. If child support is broken, fix that instead of using its flaws as an argument against abortion rights.

[ChumpDumper]

If she does that, against the man's wishes, should is he be obligated to pay child support?Yes. Dude took the risk when he had sex. Gotta be a man about it.

[vy65]

That's a whole other beast of a discussion that I still haven't completely wrapped my head around, but right now I don't agree with child support in these cases unless they are married.

Either way, I know that abortion policy shouldn't be driven by perceived flaws in child support policy. If child support is broken, fix that instead of using its flaws as an argument against abortion rights.

If you don't think that a man is obligated to pay child support if a woman has a child against his wishes and the two are out of wedlock, then we agree.

Abortion should be more readily available because men who don't want to have the child shouldn't be forced to pay child support.

Conceptually, I understand separating the two. As a practical matter, I don't think that's feasible or a good idea.

[vy65]

Yes. Dude took the risk when he had sex. Gotta be a man about it.

Do you agree with the point made here:


If you mean it's beyond retarded to believe that releasing sperm should give you equal decision rights on whether or not someone carries a 40 week pregnancy to term, I agree completely.

[vy65]

Yes. Dude took the risk when he had sex. Gotta be a man about it.

So did the woman.

If she wants to have the child, fine.

Holding the man strictly liable for sticking his dick in a woman doesn't strike me as a great stride in the direction of gender equality.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you agree with the point made here:I do.

Everyone knows the risks going in.

[ChumpDumper]

So did the woman.

If she wants to have the child, fine.

Holding the man strictly liable for sticking his dick in a woman doesn't strike me as a great stride in the direction of gender equality.That's too bad for you.

When you can pass a kid through your vagina we can revisit the issue.

[Clipper Nation]

So did the woman.

If she wants to have the child, fine.

Holding the man strictly liable for sticking his dick in a woman doesn't strike me as a great stride in the direction of gender equality.
Misandrists don't want gender equality, tbh.

[vy65]

That's too bad for you.

When you can pass a kid through your vagina we can revisit the issue.

That's not even remotely the point. Try again.

Srsly, why do you hate equality?

[vy65]

I bet David would say that a woman would be justified in aborting the child if the man wanted it but she didn't?

What a progressive.

[ChumpDumper]

That's not even remotely the point. Try again. It's precisely the point.


Srsly, why do you hate equality?Srsly, why do you love straw men?

[ChumpDumper]

I bet David would say that a woman would be justified in aborting the child if the man wanted it but she didn't?

What a progressive.Who's David?

When you can pass a baby through your vagina we can revisit the issue.

[vy65]

It's the point and it's no straw men. You don't think men should have a say in a woman's choice to have/not have a child, but should nonetheless bear the financial consequences because he knew better. You hate equality.

[vy65]

Who's David?

When you can pass a baby through your vagina we can revisit the issue.

You are silly.

Why do you love straw men?

[ChumpDumper]

It's the point and it's no straw men. You don't think men should have a say in a woman's choice to have/not have a child, but should nonetheless bear the financial consequences because he knew better. You hate equality.You love straw men.


You are silly.

Why do you love straw men?You love them more.

Keep us up to date about any change with your vagina.

[vy65]

Only David would think sex = an agreement for financial subsidization. That's clearly what "every knows better" when they're about to fuck

[vy65]

You love straw men.

You love them more.

Keep us up to date about any change with your vagina.

Why are you deflecting?

Why does fucking = an agreement to pay for a child if the woman chooses?

[ChumpDumper]

Only David would think sex = an agreement for financial subsidization. That's clearly what "every knows better" when they're about to fuckWho's David?

You'll be equal to a woman when you can pass a baby through your vagina.

If you don't know the risks as a male, you're an idiot. I fully believe you are an idiot.

[ChumpDumper]

Why are you deflecting?

Why does fucking = an agreement to pay for a child if the woman chooses?That's the risk. If you don't want to take the risk, don't have sex.

Pretty simple. I think even you can understand.

[Blizzardwizard]

Misandrists don't want gender equality, tbh.

You've already been found ousted as anti-woman gender inequality loving GOP shill. I'd quit while you're ahead mi hombre.

[Clipper Nation]

You've already been found ousted as anti-woman gender inequality loving GOP shill. I'd quit while you're ahead mi hombre.
I'm all for gender equality. Why do you want to deny gender equality to men?

[vy65]

That's the risk. If you don't want to take the risk, don't have sex.

Why are you ok with that?

[vy65]

That's the risk. If you don't want to take the risk, don't have sex.

Pretty simple. I think even you can understand.

Better said, why should a man be forced to financially subsidize a woman's decision to do with her body what she pleases?

[ChumpDumper]

Why are you ok with that?Why would I not be? I've taken the risks. I have minimized my risks. It's easy.

[vy65]

Why would I not be? I've taken the risks. I have minimized my risks. It's easy.

Minimizing risk is besides the point. There's still risk. The question is what should happen when the risk is realized.

[ChumpDumper]

Better said, why should a man be forced to financially subsidize a woman's decision to do with her body what she pleases?Because he took that risk.

If you are afraid of possible consequences, don't do it. What part of that do you not understand?

[Blizzardwizard]

I'm all for gender equality. Why do you want to deny gender equality to men?

I want complete gender equality, unlike you, who supports greasy Mexicans impregnating teens and making these poor women keep that baby that in the future will be a 450lb fat man that slobs around at baseball games catching homers in his beer glass.

[ChumpDumper]

Minimizing risk is besides the point. There's still risk. The question is what should happen when the risk is realized.If you take the risk, it is out of your hands by definition.

That's what risk is.

Jesus, you really need this explained to you?

[vy65]

Because he took that risk.

Again, besides the point.

He took the risk that she'd get pregnant, yes.

He took the risk that he'd be forced to subsidize her decision to do with her body as she pleases.

Is that arrangement the most equal for the man and the woman?

Do you honestly think we should treat fucking as a man's waiver of control over his finances/agreement to pay for whatever a woman chooses?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Women and men both know the risk that sex can lead to a baby.

If the woman gets pregnant and the man wants the baby she can abort it.

If the woman gets pregnant and the man doesn't want the baby she can have it and force him to pay for it.

Gotta love gender equality.

[vy65]

:lol thinking men rationally evaluate the pros and cons of fucking a women minutes before they stick their dick inside.

[ChumpDumper]

Again, besides the point.

He took the risk that she'd get pregnant, yes.

He took the risk that he'd be forced to subsidize her decision to do with her body as she pleases.

Is that arrangement the most equal for the man and the woman?

Do you honestly think we should treat fucking as a man's waiver of control over his finances/agreement to pay for whatever a woman chooses?It's an assumption of partial responsibility.

The fact monetary support is the most a man is going to be forced to contribute means he's getting off pretty easy tbh.

If you think men should never be responsible for anything, tough shit.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol thinking men rationally evaluate the pros and cons of fucking a women minutes before they stick their dick inside.Why wait til then?

Are you really this stupid?

[ChumpDumper]

Women and men both know the risk that sex can lead to a baby.

If the woman gets pregnant and the man wants the baby she can abort it.

If the woman gets pregnant and the man doesn't want the baby she can have it and force him to pay for it.

Gotta love gender equality.Keep us up to date on your vagina too.

[vy65]

It's an assumption of partial responsibility.

Still didn't answer the question. Is that arrangement equal for the man and the woman?

Who's assumed partial responsibility?


The fact monetary support is the most a man is going to be forced to contribute means he's getting off pretty easy tbh.

The fact that the non-monetary support for the woman is so tough is a pretty good indication that the child should not be had in the first place.

If it's so hard on her and he's getting off pretty easy, why's she having the kid (against his wishes, ostensibly) in the first place?

And why is financially supporting a child for 18 years pretty easy?


If you think men should never be responsible for anything, tough shit.

Who's building straw men now?

[vy65]

Why wait til then?

Are you really this stupid?

Strong possibility David's never had sex.

[ChumpDumper]

Still didn't answer the question. Is that arrangement equal for the man and the woman?I said the man is getting off easy.


Who's assumed partial responsibility?Damn, you're stupid.



The fact that the non-monetary support for the woman is a pretty good indication that the child should not be had in the first place.You're now the judge of who lives and who dies? :lmao


If it's so hard on her and he's getting off pretty easy, why's she having the kid (against his wishes, ostensibly) in the first place?Who knows? She made the choice about her body.


Who's building straw men now?I said "if" -- I haven't really seen a scenario where you have a man taking responsibility.

[ChumpDumper]

Strong possibility David's never had sex.You've never bought rubbers more than minutes before sex?

If you have, then you have rationally weighed the pros and cons and acted accordingly.

Really, this is such basic stuff.

[Clipper Nation]

I want complete gender equality
Then you should want the father to have a say in the abortion of their child.

[Clipper Nation]

Keep us up to date on your vagina too.
We know your vagina bleeds 24/7 and reeks of fish, David.

[ChumpDumper]

We know your vagina bleeds 24/7 and reeks of fish, David.We know you just follow others and steal their shticks, David.

[Clipper Nation]

We know you just follow others and steal their shticks, David.
What schtick, David? I'm stating a fact.

[ChumpDumper]

What schtick, David? I'm stating a fact.Every shtick you have ever used, David. I'm stating a fact.

[Clipper Nation]

Every shtick you have ever used, David. I'm stating a fact.
Seems like a weird time to bring up schticks when I'm pointing out the reality of your disgusting vagina, David.

[ChumpDumper]

Seems like a weird time to bring up schticks when I'm pointing out the reality of your disgusting vagina, David.I brought up the vagina shtick, David. You followed me.

As always.

Are you so angry because you know everyone else is better at this than you?

[Clipper Nation]

I brought up the vagina shtick, David. You followed me.
I just figured as long as people were talking about vaginas, it'd be pertinent to bring up how used-up and gross yours is, David.

Speaking of schticks, your thread-derailing 500 Questions schtick is the oldest and most tired one in Internet history.

[Blizzardwizard]

Then you should want the father to have a say in the abortion of their child.

It's the mother's body. So if the father says no to them they should just go along with it?

[ChumpDumper]

I just figured as long as people were talking about vaginas, it'd be pertinent to bring up how used-up and gross yours is, David.Eh, you're just angry for whatever reason and try to be a tough guy online.


Speaking of schticks, your thread-derailing 500 Questions schtick is the oldest and most tired one in Internet history.You use that shtick too.

You're welcome.

[m>s]

Yes. Dude took the risk when he had sex. Gotta be a man about it.
Double cuck standards, the man has no power per par. Male feminist smh

[m>s]

You know you could say the woman knew the risks also but you're a hypocrite

[Clipper Nation]

It's the mother's body. So if the father says no to them they should just go along with it?
It's the father's sperm that collided with the egg to begin with. So they shouldn't have any say in whether their kid lives or dies?

[Blizzardwizard]

It's the father's sperm that collided with the egg to begin with. So they shouldn't have any say in whether their kid lives or dies?

It's the mother's damn fetus and it's the mother who has to deal with childbirth. Nobody said the men don't get any say, but if the mother is adamant they don't want the baby, they should be allowed to abort it and not feel pressured into keeping it.

[m>s]

It's the mother's damn fetus and it's the mother who has to deal with childbirth. Nobody said the men don't get any say
ok

but if the mother is adamant they don't want the baby, they should be allowed to abort it and not feel pressured into keeping it.
So what say do they get then?

[Clipper Nation]

It's the mother's damn fetus
It's the mother and father's fetus.


Nobody said the men don't get any say
In the US, the Supreme Court did. The father doesn't even have to be told in advance.

Why do you hate men so much?

[Blizzardwizard]

It's the mother and father's fetus.


In the US, the Supreme Court did. The father doesn't even have to be told in advance.

Why do you hate men so much?

Ideally, for you though abortion would be outlawed so NEITHER the mother or father would get a say.

Why do you hate people's free will so much?

Why do you hate freedom?

[Spurminator]

It's the father's sperm that collided with the egg to begin with. So they shouldn't have any say in whether their kid lives or dies?

This is so beyond stupid that I figure you have to be trolling at this point, but I'll play along.

What does "having a say" entail? What if they just disagree altogether? Flip a coin?

If a father's non-consent to abortion prevents the woman from having an abortion, that's not "having a say." That's not equal.

[Blizzardwizard]

ok

So what say do they get then?

About as much say as das Deutsche Volk had over the Russian infiltration of Berlin after Hitler cucked himself, I'm guessing is the answer you're looking for.

[Blizzardwizard]

This is so beyond stupid that I figure you have to be trolling at this point, but I'll play along.

What does "having a say" entail? What if they just disagree altogether? Flip a coin?

If a father's non-consent to abortion prevents the woman from having an abortion, that's not "having a say." That's not equal.

[m>s]

About as much say as das Deutsche Volk had over the Russian infiltration of Berlin after Hitler cucked himself, I'm guessing is the answer you're looking for.
Yeah didn't think you had a logical response

[Blizzardwizard]

Yeah didn't think you had a logical response

Ok then, let's hear your thoughts then Einstein.

[m>s]

Ok then, let's hear your thoughts then Einstein.
You made the assertion that men have a say then immediately contradicted yourself, I just asked you how you arrived at that conclusion. The woman has all the power, not sure where you figure men get a say.

[Clipper Nation]

This is so beyond stupid that I figure you have to be trolling at this point, but I'll play along.

What does "having a say" entail? What if they just disagree altogether? Flip a coin?

If a father's non-consent to abortion prevents the woman from having an abortion, that's not "having a say." That's not equal.
But a woman not even having to tell the father about the abortion is equal?

[spurraider21]

But a woman not even having to tell the father about the abortion is equal?
so whats your scenario where both parties have an equal say. how would it play out?

[Blizzardwizard]

You made the assertion that men have a say then immediately contradicted yourself, I just asked you how you arrived at that conclusion. The woman has all the power, not sure where you figure men get a say.

The men aren't gagged at the mouth, they can talk to their partner, give advice, recommend what to do next BUT they can't force a woman to keep a child. So if it comes down to a final say, surely the mother should make the final decision, being it is them harbouring the child?

What would your alternative be?

[Spurminator]

But a woman not even having to tell the father about the abortion is equal?

Equal to what?

Why, and how, would the law regulate something like that, Libertarian? How would they even enforce it? Do you believe the government should require a signed permission slip from the biological father before a woman can get an abortion? What if she doesn't know how to contact him?

Please outline how you believe this can be realistically enforced by the state.

[m>s]

The men aren't gagged at the mouth, they can talk to their partner, give advice, recommend what to do next BUT they can't force a woman to keep a child. So if it comes down to a final say, surely the mother should make the final decision, being it is them harbouring the child?

What would your alternative be?complete ban on abortion for European women and mandatory abortion for blacks and minorities

[Blizzardwizard]

complete ban on abortion for European women and mandatory abortion for blacks and minorities

And you said my response wasn't logical.

[m>s]

And you said my response wasn't logical.
It's quite logical and results in the best outcome for society

[Splits]

:lol the forced birth crowd getting served ITT

[Blizzardwizard]

:lol the forced birth crowd getting served ITT

They're trying though, that's all that matters :lol

[Spurminator]

The "Men's Rights" segment of the anti-choice crowd is basically nothing more than a bunch of misogynist loners who are butthurt about women having sex and not with them.

[ChumpDumper]

You know you could say the woman knew the risks also but you're a hypocriteShe also knows the risks. but in the end it is her body where things are happening, so it's her choice whether to keep it.

If you could carry a child, you would demand the same choice for your own body.

[m>s]

She also knows the risks. but in the end it is her body where things are happening, so it's her choice.

If you could carry a child, you would demand the same choice for your own body.
No kike you just want to lower our birth rates, don't speak for me on what I would or wouldn't want. You fucking male feminist I'll bet you think it's a woman's choice to fuck whoever she wants while in a marriage also.

[ChumpDumper]

No kike you just want to lower our birth rates, don't speak for me on what I would or wouldn't want. You fucking male feminist I'll bet you think it's a woman's choice to fuck whoever she wants while in a marriage also.You actively want other people to control your body?

OK.

That actually makes sense.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The "Men's Rights" segment of the anti-choice crowd is basically nothing more than a bunch of misogynist loners who are butthurt about women having sex and not with them.
There's a third camp that is pro women's choice but thinks the child support laws are bullshit towards men.

[Spurminator]

There's a third camp that is pro women's choice but thinks the child support laws are bullshit towards men.

I'm probably in that camp, based on the little I know about child support laws. I just don't understand why the hate for child support seems to always turn into an abortion argument.

[ChumpDumper]

There's a third camp that is pro women's choice but thinks the child support laws are bullshit towards men.Men should think more about the consequences of their actions.

[m>s]

Men should think more about the consequences of their actions.
What should women do?

[ChumpDumper]

What should women do?The same.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Men should think more about the consequences of their actions.
Women should be held financially accountable for bringing a baby into the world that a man doesn't want, being that said man has no say in if the baby is aborted or not.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'm probably in that camp, based on the little I know about child support laws. I just don't understand why the hate for child support seems to always turn into an abortion argument.
The two are unfortunately linked when the man has no say in either.

[ChumpDumper]

Women should be held financially accountable for bringing a baby into the world that a man doesn't want, being that said man has no say in if the baby is aborted or not.Nope, he took the risk having sex with her. It's out of his hands after that.


Men should think more about the consequences of their actions.

[Spurminator]

The two are unfortunately linked when the man has no say in either.

If the flaw is with child support, then fix child support.

[ChumpDumper]

Hilarious, these guys ask for refunds at the casino after they lose.

[spurraider21]

Nope, he took the risk having sex with her. It's out of his hands after that.


Men should think more about the consequences of their actions.
Is it possible that the scope of the consequences are being stretched a bit too far?

[ChumpDumper]

Is it possible that the scope of the consequences are being stretched a bit too far?I don't think so. A child is a pretty big consequence.

[vy65]

Hilarious, these guys ask for refunds at the casino after they lose.

Crofl this is DarrinS level of stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

Crofl this is DarrinS level of stupid.I don't expect you to understand anything anymore.

[vy65]

You've never bought rubbers more than minutes before sex?

If you have, then you have rationally weighed the pros and cons and acted accordingly.

Really, this is such basic stuff.

What happens when condoms fail?

[vy65]

I don't expect you to understand anything anymore.

Crofl expectation. Sorry to let you down David

[ChumpDumper]

What happens when condoms fail?Consequences. There is still risk.

Is this really so difficult for you?

[ChumpDumper]

Crofl expectation. Sorry to let you down DavidYou didn't let anyone down, David. You live up to our expectations.

[vy65]

Consequences. There is still risk.

Is this really so difficult for you?

Consequences, exactly. And in your view, are men and women on equal footing when a man has no say in the child's life and is forced to pay for the kid? Even when he mitigated his risk?

[spurraider21]

I don't think so. A child is a pretty big consequence.
indeed. and yet abortions are legal to take care of unplanned pregnancies. it's an out that women alone have access to.

men shouldn't be financially handcuffed for 18 years at the discretion of the woman. the pregnancy wasn't an act of aggression towards the woman (i dont think we're discussing rape cases here). if men were allowed to "opt out" of child care/support/custody, then the woman would still be able to make an informed decision as to how to proceed with the unborn child. heck, if it floats your boat, you can even send the abortion bill to the dude in these scenarios if that's how the woman chooses to proceed

its still her body and the choice to have the child or terminate would still be her choice, and her choice alone

[ChumpDumper]

Consequences, exactly. And in your view, are men and women on equal footing when a man has no say in the child's life and is forced to pay for the kid? Even when he mitigated his risk?The risk is still there and the man took it and lost. Time to pay up if that's what it comes to.

Pretty simple.

If the man can get pregnant he should absolutely have absolutely equal rights in the matter. He can just take the embryo and start growing it in his uterus.

[ChumpDumper]

indeed. and yet abortions are legal to take care of unplanned pregnancies. it's an out that women alone have access to.

men shouldn't be financially handcuffed for 18 years at the discretion of the woman. the pregnancy wasn't an act of aggression towards the woman (i dont think we're discussing rape cases here). if men were allowed to "opt out" of child care/support/custody, then the woman would still be able to make an informed decision as to how to proceed with the unborn child. heck, if it floats your boat, you can even send the abortion bill to the dude in these scenarios if that's how the woman chooses to proceed

its still her body and the choice to have the child or terminate would still be her choice, and her choice aloneThe man takes the risk when he has sex. It's out of his hands after that. If the risk is too great, don't have the sex.

[spurraider21]

The man takes the risk when he has sex. It's out of his hands after that. If the risk is too great, don't have the sex.


and yet abortions are legal to take care of unplanned pregnancies. it's an out that women alone have access to.

men shouldn't be financially handcuffed for 18 years at the discretion of the woman. the pregnancy wasn't an act of aggression towards the woman (i dont think we're discussing rape cases here). if men were allowed to "opt out" of child care/support/custody, then the woman would still be able to make an informed decision as to how to proceed with the unborn child. heck, if it floats your boat, you can even send the abortion bill to the dude in these scenarios if that's how the woman chooses to proceed

its still her body and the choice to have the child or terminate would still be her choice, and her choice alone

[spurraider21]

hm, sounds like something a pro-lifer would say


The woman takes the risk when she has sex. It's out of her hands after that. If the risk is too great, don't have the sex.

apparently even though the outcome (baby) is the same, men and women have different consequences for the same act...

[ChumpDumper]

Men can already opt out of the child's life in every way but financially until the child is an adult.

It's actually getting off quite easy.

[TheSanityAnnex]

If the flaw is with child support, then fix child support.
Agreed but that's a tough one and not an easy fix.

[spurraider21]

Men can already opt out of the child's life in every way but financially until the child is an adult.
that's a pretty big one

[ChumpDumper]

hm, sounds like something a pro-lifer would say



apparently even though the outcome (baby) is the same, men and women have different consequences for the same act...Yep, since it's the woman's body, the options are still in her hands.

Not in the man's.

Pretty simple.

[vy65]

Mans responsibility for a woman's choice? Man accepts the risk, not the woman. She has no risk because she can choose to have the kid or abort it. Just goes to show SJWs really don't care about equality.

[ChumpDumper]

that's a pretty big oneNot the biggest.

[vy65]

Men can already opt out of the child's life in every way but financially until the child is an adult.

It's actually getting off quite easy.


Except that it's not, because the woman has choices the man doesn't. She can opt to have the child or not. She can opt to have child support or not. It's not getting off easy at all.

[ChumpDumper]

Mans responsibility for a woman's choice? Man accepts the risk, not the woman. She has no risk because she can choose to have the kid or abort it. Just goes to show SJWs really don't care about equality.It's different because the woman gets pregnant.

Would you rather have it where you got pregnant? That would be true equality.

[ChumpDumper]

Except that it's not, because the woman has choices the man doesn't. She can opt to have the child or not. She can opt to have child support or not. It's not getting off easy at all.Compared to actually raising a child it is absolutely easier.

[spurraider21]

Yep, since it's the woman's body, the options are still in her hands.

Not in the man's.

Pretty simple.
the option of having the child or undergoing an abortion is certainly in her hands. that is not in dispute.

women already have a legal "out" in abortion. its not an enviable route, but its an option they have. and this is after the "dont have sex if the risk is too great" ship has sailed.

i'm suggesting that men should also have some sort of an "out."

[ChumpDumper]

the option of having the child or undergoing an abortion is certainly in her hands. that is not in dispute.

women already have a legal "out" in abortion. its not an enviable route, but its an option they have. and this is after the "dont have sex if the risk is too great" ship has sailed.

i'm suggesting that men should also have some sort of an "out."If men got pregnant, I'd be all for it.

[vy65]

It's different because the woman gets pregnant.

Would you rather have it where you got pregnant? That would be true equality.

It's not about who gets pregnant. It's about the choice to get and maintain the pregnancy in the first place. Women have options men don't. It's why your asking men if they can get pregnant is stupid; it's completely besides the point

[spurraider21]

If men got pregnant, I'd be all for it.
you are completely missing the point i'm making. i'm not entertaining taking the power to abort or have the child away from the woman.

she can still choose the have the child if that is her choice, full well knowing that she wont be receiving child support. if she's up for it, kudos to her

[Clipper Nation]

Nope, he took the risk having sex with her. It's out of his hands after that.


Men should think more about the consequences of their actions.
Replace "he" with "she" and "men" with "women" in this exact statement and you would be the first to cry about "slut-shaming" and "misogyny," David.

[vy65]

If a woman doesn't have to deal with the consequences why does the man?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Compared to actually raising a child it is absolutely easier.
And if the man is raising the child do you think the woman will be forced to support him financially? I've read cases where the man raised the child and still paid child support.

Just admit it isn't equal and be done with it.

[vy65]

If a woman can have sex and not deal with the consequences, why does the man have to bear those consequences?

[ChumpDumper]

It's not about who gets pregnant. It's about the choice to get and maintain the pregnancy in the first place. Women have options men don't. It's why your asking men if they can get pregnant is stupid; it's completely besides the point


you are completely missing the point i'm making. i'm not entertaining taking the power to abort or have the child away from the woman.

she can still choose the have the child if that is her choice, full well knowing that she wont be receiving child support. if she's up for it, kudos to her


Replace "he" with "she" and "men" with "women" in this exact statement and you would be the first to cry about "slut-shaming" and "misogyny," David.


If a woman doesn't have to deal with the consequences why does the man?Sorry, guys. Women get pregnant. guys don't.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. If you want to eliminate your risk, abstain or get a vasectomy. This stuff just isn't that difficult.

[spurraider21]

Sorry, guys. Women get pregnant. guys don't.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. If you want to eliminate your risk, abstain or get a vasectomy. This stuff just isn't that difficult.
you are missing the crux of the argument and are just pounding the same dead point

[Clipper Nation]

Sorry, guys. Women get pregnant. guys don't.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. If you want to eliminate your risk, abstain or get a vasectomy. This stuff just isn't that difficult.
You're being purposely obtuse, David. But I understand. It's hard to logically justify your misandry and bigotry when you try so hard to look "progressive."

[TheSanityAnnex]

And if the man is raising the child do you think the woman will be forced to support him financially? I've read cases where the man raised the child and still paid child support.

Just admit it isn't equal and be done with it.

[ChumpDumper]

you are missing the crux of the argument and are just pounding the same dead pointIt's not dead. It's the actual crux of the difference between men and women when it comes to children.

You guys can rail on about the unfairness of it all, but you all know the risks and you can pretty much eliminate your risk with a simple procedure at a doctor's office.

"But we don't wanna pay" isn't much of an argument.

[ChumpDumper]

You're being purposely obtuse, David. But I understand. It's hard to logically justify your misandry and bigotry when you try so hard to look "progressive."Aw, David - you're upset.

Don't worry, no woman will have sex with you anyway.

[vy65]

Third wavers would have a field day with David depriving a woman's agency by denying her responsibility. Some feminist he is, smh

[ChumpDumper]

And if the man is raising the child do you think the woman will be forced to support him financially? I've read cases where the man raised the child and still paid child support.

Just admit it isn't equal and be done with it.When did I say it was equal, genius?

[ChumpDumper]

Third wavers would have a field day with David depriving a woman's agency by denying her responsibility. Some feminist he is, smhWhat responsibility did I deny a woman, David?

[spurraider21]

It's not dead. It's the actual crux of the difference between men and women when it comes to children.

You guys can rail on about the unfairness of it all, but you all know the risks and you can pretty much eliminate your risk with a simple procedure at a doctor's office.

"But we don't wanna pay" isn't much of an argument.
guys can get vasectomies, women can get their tubes tied. equal

guys can wear protection, women can use birth control. equal

guys can abstain from sex, women can abstain from sex. equal

women can opt out after pregnancy. men have no equivalent. unequal

this not about the power of abortion... that is firmly with the woman.

[vy65]

What responsibility did I deny a woman, David?

How have you ascribed any to her. Pregnant and don't want the kid? Get an abortion! Pregnant and don't want to abort? Don't worry, the man will pay. After all, he accepted the risk of fucking you while you have options he doesn't have. But hey, it's ok because you have ovaries.

That literally is your argument.

[ChumpDumper]

guys can get vasectomies, women can get their tubes tied. equal

guys can wear protection, women can use birth control. equal

women can opt out after pregnancy. men have no equivalent. unequalYep. That's life.

[vy65]

guys can get vasectomies, women can get their tubes tied. equal

guys can wear protection, women can use birth control. equal

women can opt out after pregnancy. men have no equivalent. unequal

this not about the power of abortion... that is firmly with the woman.

Like a young Oliver Wendel Holmes.

[spurraider21]

Yep. That's the system we currently have.
and i'm open to improving it. i'm disappointed that you aren't.

[vy65]

Yep. That's life.

Black people got it rough, but hey that's life.

[ChumpDumper]

How have you ascribed any to her. Pregnant and don't want the kid? Get an abortion! Pregnant and don't want to abort? Don't worry, the man will pay. After all, he accepted the risk of fucking you while you have options he doesn't have. But hey, it's ok because you have ovaries.

That literally is your argument.If she is pregnant and doesn't want to abort, she can give the kid up for adoption or raise the child. The latter is chock full of responsibility IMO.

[Spurminator]

Agreed but that's a tough one and not an easy fix.

But there are options and ultimately since it's a monetary thing, there are plenty. Not many options when it comes to abortion, either we allow it or we don't. And in my opinion, not allowing it isn't really an option.

[ChumpDumper]

and i'm open to improving it. i'm disappointed that you aren't.If you can get pregnant, you can have everything equal.


Black people got it rough, but hey that's life.Well, if you want to argue a biological difference in blacks that should make the laws different for them, I'd love to see your manifesto.

[vy65]

If she is pregnant and doesn't want to abort, she can give the kid up for adoption or raise the child. The latter is chock full of responsibility IMO.

crofl giving the kid away is responsibility for the kid? It's a choice in the kids best interest. But it's not the same as a man who becomes financially responsible for the kid. Which is the whole point.

[vy65]

If you can get pregnant, you can have everything equal.

Well, if you want to argue a biological difference in blacks that should make the laws different for them, I'd love to see your manifesto.

You're right. We only care about biological differences when it serves our ideological agenda.

[Clipper Nation]

Aw, David - you're upset.

Don't worry, no woman will have sex with you anyway.

Plenty have. But don't worry David, you'll always have Blake to put out for you no matter how gross and pathetic you truly are.

[vy65]

Last night, fuzzy and slurper. Tonight it's David. What happened to the libs?

[ChumpDumper]

crofl giving the kid away is responsibility for the kid?I didn't say it was.
It's a choice in the kids best interest. But it's not the same as a man who becomes financially responsible for the kid. Which is the whole point.Is a kid given for adoption due child support from the biological father?


You're right. We only care about biological differences when it serves our ideological agenda.Actually the differences here exist because of the biological differences. If you could get pregnant, you could have perfectly equal rights. Would you like that?

[spurraider21]

If you can get pregnant, you can have everything equal.
i'm not even discussing how to deal with the pregnancy. the power to keep the child or abort is not in question whatsoever, yet you keep citing it as your reasoning here

[ChumpDumper]

Plenty have. But don't worry David, you'll always have Blake to put out for you no matter how gross and pathetic you truly are.Aw David, you're really upset now.


Last night, fuzzy and slurper. Tonight it's David. What happened to the libs?I just said women can get pregnant and men can't, David. If you can convince me otherwise, please go ahead.

[spurraider21]

Last night, fuzzy and slurper. Tonight it's David. What happened to the libs?
platform of bluster tbh

[Clipper Nation]

If you could get pregnant, you could have perfectly equal rights.

Funny how these biological differences are conveniently ignored when feminazis like you perpetuate the myth of the "wage gap."

[ChumpDumper]

i'm not even discussing how to deal with the pregnancy. the power to keep the child or abort is not in question whatsoever, yet you keep citing it as your reasoning hereWhat other reasoning is necessary?

[ChumpDumper]

Funny how these biological differences are conveniently ignored when feminazis like you perpetuate the myth of the "wage gap."I don't believe in the wage gap as cited, but thanks for trying to change the subject again. Shows you're really angry.

[spurraider21]

What other reasoning is necessary?
if you have to ask this question, then you are basically telling me you haven't read a word of anything i've been saying in this thread

[vy65]

I didn't say it was.Is a kid given for adoption due child support from the biological father?

Actually the differences here exist because of the biological differences. If you could get pregnant, you could have perfectly equal rights. Would you like that?

You asked where you denied a woman's responsibility for her choices and said giving the kid up was an example. If you don't see how that's contradictory you should just go back to saying " bbbbbbbut women get pregnant."

The issue isn't biological differences dummy. It's how the law treats them. We are all biologically different. The issue for SJWs like you is how the law uses those differences for oppression. Which is why you are beyond moronic for falling back on the fact that a woman has a uterus when we are all criticizing the fact that the law uses a woman's biology to disenfranchise men.

[ChumpDumper]

if you have to ask this question, then you are basically telling me you haven't read a word of anything i've been saying in this threadI have; it's just that nothing I've read from you has changed my conclusions based on that reasoning.

[vy65]

Hey, I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but can men get pregnant?

[ChumpDumper]

You asked where you denied a woman's responsibility for her choices and said giving the kid up was an example. If you don't see how that's contradictory you should just go back to saying " bbbbbbbut women get pregnant."

The issue isn't biological differences dummy. It's how the law treats them. We are all biologically different. The issue for SJWs like you is how the law uses those differences for oppression. Which is why you are beyond moronic for falling back on the fact that a woman has a uterus when we are all criticizing the fact that the law uses a woman's biology to disenfranchise men.lol you're the real victim here.

Good Lord, when did men like you become such pussies?

[ChumpDumper]

Hey, I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but can men get pregnant?You've been acting like they can.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't believe in the wage gap as cited, but thanks for trying to change the subject again. Shows you're really angry.

Translation: "I'm pretending I don't agree with the SJW/feminazi party line in order to dodge my hypocrisy."

You're really flustered right now, David. Shows you're really angry.

[Clipper Nation]

You've been acting like they can.

You're really crushing that strawman, David!

[ChumpDumper]

Translation: "I'm pretending I don't agree with the SJW/feminazi party line in order to dodge my hypocrisy."

You're really flustered right now, David. Shows you're really angry.No, I'm pretty agnostic about the wage gap. No one ever posts any data that would be relevant.

[vy65]

lol you're the real victim here.

Good Lord, when did men like you become such pussies?

White flag tby

"Come on VY, pay 20% of your income for that kid, pussyyyyyyyyyyyy"

[ChumpDumper]

You're really crushing that strawman, David!You still don't know what a strawman is, David!

[vy65]

You've been acting like they can.

No, I haven't. Try again.

[ChumpDumper]

White flag tby

"Come on VY, pay 20% of your income for that kid, pussyyyyyyyyyyyy"So are you paying child support right now?

[Clipper Nation]

No, I'm pretty agnostic about the wage gap. No one ever posts any data that would be relevant.

There's nothing to be "agnostic" about, David. The wage gap is a bold-faced lie. You either support the lie or you don't.

[ChumpDumper]

No, I haven't. Try again.Wanting true equality in this case would necessitate it.

Try again.

[vy65]

So are you paying child support right now?

No.

Why would you care?

[ChumpDumper]

There's nothing to be "agnostic" about, David. The wage gap is a bold-faced lie. You either support the lie or you don't.As it is usually presented, yes i would say it's a lie. I have never seen the actual data that would prove or disprove it.

If you have, start another thread and stop derailing this one.

[ChumpDumper]

No.

Why would you care?I didn't say I would care.

[vy65]

Wanting true equality in this case would necessitate it.

Try again.

Wanting the law to treat men and women equally would necessitate having men get pregnant?

[vy65]

I didn't say I would care.

Then why ask?

[ChumpDumper]

Wanting the law to treat men and women equally would necessitate having men get pregnant?In this case, pretty much.


Then why ask?I just wanted to know if your victimhood was gained from personal experience.