Has a trade ever ruined a franchise so badly?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

If OKC never trades Harden then they dont face the Rockets in the first round the next year and Westbrook never gets hurt (and his subsequent knee problems never happen)...

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Was this the all time biggest backfire in NBA history?

[Dex]

:lol Trading Harden so you can keep Kendrick fucking Perkins. :lol

[Raven]

:lol Trading Harden so you can keep Kendrick fucking Perkins. :lol

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Not quite as bad as det time the Lakers traded Vlade Divac for some D-League scrub with a huge ego, tbh.

[Mark Celibate]

That Rondo trade looked even worse in hindsight imho. We could've kept the assets and gone for Dragic two months later, and it turned out that Brandon Wright was exactly the guy Phoenix wanted. We ranked 2nd of the league in offense before the trade, and were safely perching on the upper half of the playoff table but after we acquired that son of a bitch we struggle to maintain a winning record, and eventually fell to the 7th spot... It's true that Rondo did us a huge favor leaving this team after two games in the playoffs, but it was already too late, son of a bitch should've never joined us to kill our chemistry. That little skinny son of a bitch turned us from a fucking contender to 1st round fodder.

[Thread]

I'll tell ya Perkins has impacted in the playoffs, rung.
I'll tell ya Rondo has impacted in the playoffs, rung.

Harden? Ended up like a drugstore Indian...Everybody laughin' at him,,,Media tryin' to make 'em stop. Everybody still laughin' at him. No rung.

[Raven]

That Rondo trade looked even worse in hindsight imho. We could've kept the assets and gone for Dragic two months later, and it turned out that Brandon Wright was exactly the guy Phoenix wanted. We ranked 2nd of the league in offense before the trade, and were safely perching on the upper half of the playoff table but after we acquired that son of a bitch we struggle to maintain a winning record, and eventually fell to the 7th spot... It's true that Rondo did us a huge favor leaving this team after two games in the playoffs, but it was already too late, son of a bitch should've never joined us to kill our chemistry. That little skinny son of a bitch turned us from a fucking contender to 1st round fodder.

:lol contender

[daslicer]

That Rondo trade looked even worse in hindsight imho. We could've kept the assets and gone for Dragic two months later, and it turned out that Brandon Wright was exactly the guy Phoenix wanted. We ranked 2nd of the league in offense before the trade, and were safely perching on the upper half of the playoff table but after we acquired that son of a bitch we struggle to maintain a winning record, and eventually fell to the 7th spot... It's true that Rondo did us a huge favor leaving this team after two games in the playoffs, but it was already too late, son of a bitch should've never joined us to kill our chemistry. That little skinny son of a bitch turned us from a fucking contender to 1st round fodder.

I thought that trade from the start was stupid. Wright and Crowder were 2 solid players that were pretty good in the system the mavs ran. Wright was a great energetic big you could use off the bench while Crowder was good defensive ;player. I felt those 2 brought a lot of energy towards the mavs when they were in the games and also provided intangible hustle plays.

[benefactor]

Tractor Traylor for Dirk was far worse.

[JoeTait75]

Robert Parish and the draft rights to Kevin McHale for the draft rights to Joe Barely Cares...

Ron Harper for Danny Ferry...

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Robert Parish and the draft rights to Kevin McHale for the draft rights to Joe Barely Cares...

Ron Harper for Danny Ferry...
if that trade didn't happen, the Lakers would be sitting on 20 right now, far and away the top ringer in NBA history.

[Chris]

I thought they traded Harden so they could hang on to Ibaka, not Perkins?

[Raven]

I thought they traded Harden so they could hang on to Ibaka, not Perkins?

you thought wrong.

[baseline bum]

Billups for Iverson was pretty disastrous too.

[K...]

Okc was still a contender with or without harden. It sucks but it wasn't franchise crippling. It's not like Westbrook and Durant will ever miss the playoffs if there remotely healthy.

[djohn2oo8]

Okc was still a contender with or without harden. It sucks but it wasn't franchise crippling. It's not like Westbrook and Durant will ever miss the playoffs if there remotely healthy.

And what if Durant and Westbrook leave and they have to move the franchise? Disastrous?

[Thebesteva]

Not necessarily a trade but the trade decline of Chris Paul destroyed the Lakers.

[disciple]

Easy yet you never hear it. The worse trade ever was easily Ed McCauley and Cliff Hagen for Bill Russell. Are you kidding ? The man only brought the Celtics 11 Championships in 13 years. No comparison anywhere.

[Thread]

Not necessarily a trade but the trade decline of Chris Paul destroyed the Lakers.

Nonsense. He's proceeded to drift another 4 season since + the 6 before. GIGO

[Thread]

That one that State made on draft day when they sent Curry here. The Suns war room erupted in joyous celebration, high fives, playin' flinch, cuttin' farts.

Nellie reneged. tee, hee.

[Twisted_Dawg]

That Rondo trade looked even worse in hindsight imho. We could've kept the assets and gone for Dragic two months later, and it turned out that Brandon Wright was exactly the guy Phoenix wanted. We ranked 2nd of the league in offense before the trade, and were safely perching on the upper half of the playoff table but after we acquired that son of a bitch we struggle to maintain a winning record, and eventually fell to the 7th spot... It's true that Rondo did us a huge favor leaving this team after two games in the playoffs, but it was already too late, son of a bitch should've never joined us to kill our chemistry. That little skinny son of a bitch turned us from a fucking contender to 1st round fodder.

You said son of a bitch three times.

[Spurtacular]

If OKC never trades Harden then they dont face the Rockets in the first round the next year and Westbrook never gets hurt (and his subsequent knee problems never happen)...

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Was this the all time biggest backfire in NBA history?

This is sort of the if you go back in time and step on a fly, then all of history changes thinking. For all we know, worse stuff could have happened. All the same, the Thunder were stupid to not re-sign Harden and solidify their big three. He was all set to sign at the bargain price of 4yrs/$56 mil, too.

[Thread]

This is sort of the if you go back in time and step on a fly, then all of history changes thinking. For all we know, worse stuff could have happened. All the same, the Thunder were stupid to not re-sign Harden and solidify their big three. He was all set to sign at the bargain price of 4yrs/$56 mil, too.

We don't have to step on a fly, Spurts. We need only watch Harden gets the DT's come Spring.

[cd021]

The Tyson Chandler to OKC that got called off because of a failed physical is probably as bad.

He wound up getting moved to Charlotte before Dallas traded for him. He helped them win the championship (The Mavs beat the Thunder in the PS that year) OKC traded for Perkins the year after the Chandler trade fell through and that lead to Harden being moved a couple of years later.

They could of have a front line of Durant, Ibaka and Chandler

[LkrFan]

:lol Trading Harden so you can keep Kendrick fucking Perkins. :lol
Wow, never thought about it like that! :lol

[ChumpDumper]

And what if Durant and Westbrook leave and they have to move the franchise? Disastrous?Doubt it would come to that point unless they have arena issues in the future.

[sexinthatsx]

Harden wasn't traded to keep Perkins, OKC had to either give a hefty pay day to Harden, or to Ibaka, and they rightfully chose to pay Ibaka instead

[spurraider21]

Harden wasn't traded to keep Perkins, OKC had to either give a hefty pay day to Harden, or to Ibaka, and they rightfully chose to pay Ibaka instead
Could have amnestied Perkins and kept both. It was their fault for giving Perkins a 5/40 deal

[BD24]

Lakers trading the farm for Nash comes to mind..

[sexinthatsx]

Could have amnestied Perkins and kept both. It was their fault for giving Perkins a 5/40 deal

Didn't OKC already use their amnesty provision on another player instead of Perkins?

[z0sa]

:lol Trading Harden so you can keep Kendrick fucking Perkins. :lol

:lol

[Reck]

Nonsense. He's proceeded to drift another 4 season since + the 6 before. GIGO

I dont think he means what he could have done on the court for them. He means destroyed as an mentally. Mind fucked and all. Trolled by Stern etc. :lol

[HemisfairArena]

The Nets trading their top 10 draft pick which turned out to be Damian Lilliard for an old Gerald Wallace is up there,,,hell the Russian is tying to sell the team now,,,Divac for Kobrick is up there,,,,Christ almighty what were the Hornets thinking?,,,and we traded Dennis Rodman for Will fucking Perdue,,,if not for Duncan,,,, Spurs would be in another city right now,,

[ambchang]

Moses for Caldwell jones and a first.
Bucks trading away Jabbar.
Lakers trading away dr buss for Jim buss.

[spankadelphia]

The Vancouver FO traded a 1st round pick for a player on an expiring contract back in 97. I don't remember who it was, but it was the 90's equivalent of the Jeff Green trade - ship off a future pick and hope it doesn't bite you in a franchise changing draft. The Grizz moved to Memphis and when the 2003 draft rolled around, the only protection left on the pick was #1 overall. Lebron was rigged to go to Cleveland, so in a cruel twist of fate, the Grizz pick landed at #2 and went to Detroit, who drafted Darko. The Grizz FO at the time liked Melo. Imagine Melo or Wade with Pau, Battier, Miller, Richardson, etc... Maybe we would have won a playoff game or two.

[Kool Bob Love]

Lakers trading away dr buss for Jim buss.

:lol Cold.

[daslicer]

The Nets trading their top 10 draft pick which turned out to be Damian Lilliard for an old Gerald Wallace is up there,,,hell the Russian is tying to sell the team now,,,Divac for Kobrick is up there,,,,Christ almighty what were the Hornets thinking?,,,and we traded Dennis Rodman for Will fucking Perdue,,,if not for Duncan,,,, Spurs would be in another city right now,,

I grew up in Charlotte so I can say that trade didn't destroy the Hornets. Hornets were a playoff team with prime Rice,Mason,Divac,Wesley, and even after those guys were gone they easily transitioned to Baron Davis,Mashburn,Campbell,PJ.Brown. What really hurt the Hornets was the death of Bobby Phills he was the equivalent of Danny Green/Bruce Bowen for the Hornets. Honestly I don't think Kobe would have helped the Hornets greatly if he stayed in Charlotte. I think Kobe's career ends up similar to Tmac,AI, Vince Carter if he doesn't end up in LA.

[Mark Celibate]

The New Jersey Nets (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/nj/new-jersey-nets) acquired forward Gerald Wallace (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1026/gerald-wallace) from the Portland Trail Blazers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/por/portland-trail-blazers) in a deadline deal on Thursday in exchange for center Mehmet Okur (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1014/mehmet-okur), small forward Shawne Williams (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3038/shawne-williams) and New Jersey's protected 2012 first-round pick, the Nets announced. The pick is top-3 protected, according to a league source."Gerald gives us some great defense, versatility, he's a hard worker and he'll provide leadership," Nets general manager Billy King said in a Thursday night conference call, hours after the 3 p.m. trade deadline passed.

The Nets already have lost three small forwards to season-ending injuries --Damion James (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4252/damion-james), Williams and Keith Bogans (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1995/keith-bogans), who since has been waived. They have been starting DeShawn Stevenson (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/808/deshawn-stevenson) at that spot, but he's playing out of position.
King said it was difficult to give up the pick, but "in meeting with our scouts, we felt the player that we may draft beyond the protection would be somebody that would probably take a couple years (to develop), and at this point, we're trying to speed the process up a bit and start winning (more).
"I can understand the fanbase (wanting us to keep the pick), but I'd rather try to balance the roster, add a piece and still have cap flexibility," King said.
A team source told ESPN.com's Chad Ford the Nets were willing to part with their top-3 protected pick because there are only three players in the upcoming draft the Nets covet -- Kentucky's Anthony Davis (http://sports.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/56353/anthony-davis) and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (http://sports.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/56352/michael-kidd-gilchrist), and Kansas' Thomas Robinson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/46114/thomas-robinson).
The Nets still have Houston's 2012 protected first-rounder, King noted, "so it's not like we got completely out of the draft." At the same time, it appears as though they're in "win-now" mode.
Wallace, who will turn 30 on July 23 and is in his 11th NBA season, was averaging 13.3 points, 6.6 rebounds and 2.7 assists in 42 games for the Blazers. He is slated to make $9.5 million this season and has a player option for 2012-13 at the same amount.
Asked if he was concerned about the possibility of Wallace opting out, King responded, "Not really."
Okur, whose contract will expire at the end of the season, has not played for the Nets since Jan. 25 because of back problems, while Williams, who has a player option for next season at $3.1 million, was lost for the season in late February because of a foot injury.
The move was part of a massive overhaul for the Blazers (20-23, 12th place in the Western Conference). They traded center Marcus Camby (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/125/marcus-camby) to the Houston Rockets (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/hou/houston-rockets), and also fired coach Nate McMillan and replaced him in the interim with assistant Caleb Kanales.
Wallace is due to fly to New Jersey and have a physical on Friday, and should be available Saturday night at home against the New Orleans Hornets (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/no/new-orleans-hornets), King said.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7690823/new-jersey-nets-acquire-forward-gerald-wallace-portland-trail-blazers

And the Net's 2nd round pick that year, which had been traded to Golden State, turned out to be Draymond Green.

:lmao Nets

[Dex]

Could have amnestied Perkins and kept both. It was their fault for giving Perkins a 5/40 deal

This guy gets it.

[spurraider21]

Lakers trading away dr buss for short buss.

[Mikeanaro]

Its not just the trade, add the westbrook injury and I think OKC would have a shitty season even with Harden.

[disciple]

Like I said..................it's forgotten but doesn't change it was easily the most influential trade ever.

[Thread]

Like I said..................it's forgotten but doesn't change it was easily the most influential trade ever.

Hey, dis, was that a trade when you guys let Scola (at prime) slip away from ya's?

[disciple]

Well, by pure definition, I guess it would be because we owned his rights. In reality, we never signed him though so the trade was for rights only. I know, semantics. Doesn't really rank very high if considered a loss through trade. Scola never won anything. THE MAN, Bill Russell, was simply the winningest player of any sport ever. When you consider his college years, olympics, and pros he won 14 Championships in 14 years. Never has or will be matched.

[Seventyniner]

They could of have a front line of Durant, Ibaka and Chandler

Holy shit, Westbrook/Harden/Durant/Ibaka/Chandler. The stuff of nightmares for the other 29 teams.

[cd021]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7690823/new-jersey-nets-acquire-forward-gerald-wallace-portland-trail-blazers

And the Net's 2nd round pick that year, which had been traded to Golden State, turned out to be Draymond Green.

:lmao Nets

ugh. Billie Kings track record is alwful

He gave up a ton of picks for one year of Pierce and a 1 1/2 years of KG.

Traded Favors for Deron Williams

Signed Deron Williams to a 5 year $100 million dollar deal

4 years later, they buy him out.

Resigned Wallace to a 4 year $40 million deal when he was clearly on the decline.

Traded picks (including what turned out to be the 15th pick in the draft) for Joe Johnson's massive deal.

[cd021]

Holy shit, Westbrook/Harden/Durant/Ibaka/Chandler. The stuff of nightmares for the other 29 teams.

As Bill Simmons put it "No Team has ever had four of the top 20 players on same team (KD, RW, Harden and Ibaka). If they don't when a title, expect a 30 for 30 documentary in the future.