Four years ago, he was just a 19 year old kid who we wished would become like Bowen.

[apalisoc_9]

Now, in just 4 years he has eclipsed Bowen in the all time spurs list and in one-three years will most likely eclipse the number 4 and 3 in the all time spurs list..Parker and Manu.

Just celebrated his 24 birthday and already

FMVP
DPOY

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/ZziB0VmR1Ypm6TDlC9.a7w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM5NztpbD1wbGFuZTtxPT c1O3c9MzAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/0724650e33c48412740f6a706700a109.jpg

http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/kawhi-leonard-1402926516.jpg

:lol

[daslicer]

Now, in just 4 years he has eclipsed Bowen in the all time spurs list and in one-three years will most likely eclipse the number 4 and 3 in the all time spurs list..Parker and Manu.

Just celebrated his 24 birthday and already

FMVP
DPOY

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/ZziB0VmR1Ypm6TDlC9.a7w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM5NztpbD1wbGFuZTtxPT c1O3c9MzAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/0724650e33c48412740f6a706700a109.jpg

http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/kawhi-leonard-1402926516.jpg

:lol

I know you want to be his agent but too bad he doesn't care about you.

[AFBlue]

Sky is the limit for this kid tbqh. I saw him hit the game winner in a preseason contest with the Rockets in his rookie year. I knew he'd be good, but he's surpassed any expectation I ever had.

That being said, I'm glad the Spurs were able to retain and acquire other players that can help balance the burden of offensive output for the team. Because I fear with higher usage on O that his value as a two-way player would be diminished. They could definitely get him the ball more, but it's good to know they won't have to with so many other quality options available.

[Mikeanaro]

Become like Bowen? why not like Danny Green? :D

[Axegrinder]

Now, in just 4 years he has eclipsed Bowen in the all time spurs list and in one-three years will most likely eclipse the number 4 and 3 in the all time spurs list..Parker and Manu.

Just celebrated his 24 birthday and already

FMVP
DPOY

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/ZziB0VmR1Ypm6TDlC9.a7w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM5NztpbD1wbGFuZTtxPT c1O3c9MzAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/0724650e33c48412740f6a706700a109.jpg

http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/kawhi-leonard-1402926516.jpg

:lolThought you werent a player fan Apocrite? Schtick is lame as fuck

[ducks]

So are you going to give him a blow job

[moisaenz]

As much as I like Kawhi, these threads are annoying..

[Mikeanaro]

As much as I like Kawhi, these threads are annoying..
Love the Whi man.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/74/74a82e60ae71162312292f2d66b2d4bbb09d11efcf6eaf191d 919088552e5b91.jpg

[GSH]

Four years ago, he'd never gotten a blowjob from you. Maybe you're responsible for his rise?

[FkLA]

Kawhi :worthy:

[Spurtacular]

Kawhi missed pretty much every jump shot within the last two minutes of the last four games vs. the Clips including a three to tie Game 6 with under a minute left. Just saying...

[Raven]

eclipsing TD may be easier than eclipsing Manu tbh, Manu is just a legend and has been a true groundbreaking player, changing the league and how teams regard players playing in Europe.

[The_Klaw]

Kawhi missed pretty much every jump shot within the last two minutes of the last four games vs. the Clips including a three to tie Game 6 with under a minute left. Just saying...

Saying what? Since when Kawhi is a three-point shooter?

He took only two shots in the last 2 minutes, scored 26 points, 5 ast, 7 reb, sure he was horrible in game 4.

[The_Klaw]

eclipsing TD may be easier than eclipsing Manu tbh, Manu is just a legend and has been a true groundbreaking player, changing the league and how teams regard players playing in Europe.

You mean TP ?

[LongtimeSpursFan]

As much as I like Kawhi, these threads are annoying..

[The_Klaw]

His greatness is only beginning….

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/OORg2y81_-Ib7IJIalAFHJWZ0Uw=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3636884/kawhi-reddick-gif.0.gif


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[timtonymanu]

haters mad about this thread :lol

I can't wait to see how Kawhi grows next year. This season can't start soon enough.

[HI-FI]

Something in the team changed when Rj was gone and Kawhi was able to grow. I could just tell he was unique from the get go. Like I said a couple years ago...

nigga is gonna be special.

[Spurtacular]

Saying what? Since when Kawhi is a three-point shooter?

He took only two shots in the last 2 minutes, scored 26 points, 5 ast, 7 reb, sure he was horrible in game 4.

Since when is Kawhi not a 3 point shooter? He came into the league shooting 3's. Granted, his rookie year he was pretty much relegated to corner threes and then graduated to upper wing threes. That's not to say he's a Belli or a Mills or a Green. But the Spurs definitely rely on KL's shooting to space the floor.

And alas, I mentioned the last four games of the series and not just Game 4. But let's look at KL's shooting in the last two minutes of Game 4-7 according to ESPN play-by-play listings:

Game 4

98-106 1:54 - KL misses a 21-foot 2
98-108 1:32 - KL misses a 25-foot 3

Game 5

107-103 1:44 - KL misses a 20-foot 2

Game 6

93-96 0:39 - KL misses a 24-foot 3

Game 7

107-107 0:55 - KL misses a 12-foot 2

KL was 0-5 on shots in the final two minutes of the last four games of the Clips series. Also, KL had ZERO steals in the final four games of the series. Of course, his defense was still good; but it wasn't the dominant defense we had seen at stretches during the season.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big KL fan. I do think he is one of the best players in the game today. But I also get that there's a learning curve, and I'm simply acknowledging some weaknesses in KL's game. I'm quelling the Fanboy OP's hero worship basically.

Personally, KL is one of my favorite players. I acknowledge the great things he's already done and that he is a top five or ten player in this league despite his lack of not fully being a money player yet. I'm just keeping things in some perspective.

[apalisoc_9]

haters mad about this thread :lol

I can't wait to see how Kawhi grows next year. This season can't start soon enough.

Still 90+ days

:depressed

[Spurtacular]

His greatness is only beginning….

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/OORg2y81_-Ib7IJIalAFHJWZ0Uw=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3636884/kawhi-reddick-gif.0.gif


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Early in a series and in a regular season game. Spurs need KL to be doing this stuff late in later series games. I'm not trashing KL though. It takes players time to get to that point.

[Ignignokt]

Now, in just 4 years he has eclipsed Bowen in the all time spurs list and in one-three years will most likely eclipse the number 4 and 3 in the all time spurs list..Parker and Manu.

Just celebrated his 24 birthday and already

FMVP
DPOY

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/ZziB0VmR1Ypm6TDlC9.a7w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM5NztpbD1wbGFuZTtxPT c1O3c9MzAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/0724650e33c48412740f6a706700a109.jpg

http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/kawhi-leonard-1402926516.jpg

:lol

Asian wigger plz go

[thispego]

KL has a lot of room for improvement offensively

[hooperflash]

Sky is the limit for this kid tbqh. I saw him hit the game winner in a preseason contest with the Rockets in his rookie year. I knew he'd be good, but he's surpassed any expectation I ever had.

That being said, I'm glad the Spurs were able to retain and acquire other players that can help balance the burden of offensive output for the team. Because I fear with higher usage on O that his value as a two-way player would be diminished. They could definitely get him the ball more, but it's good to know they won't have to with so many other quality options available.

I was there too! Assisted by CoJo, met him and Danny at Jim's afterwards :tu Jeremy Lin really led Houston at the end, Pre-Linsanity.

[The_Klaw]

Since when is Kawhi not a 3 point shooter? He came into the league shooting 3's.

This sums up your your lack of knowledge about him.

He didn't make the league shooting 3's, he was under 25% 3P in college and his most notable weakness was his lack of shooting ability.



Kawhi Leonard - San Diego State 6'7" 225 Sophomore. ...I am sold on Kawhi Leonard! He has a unique skill set... Leonard has big hands and a nose for the ball. He is a SPECIAL talent where rebounding is concerned. There are very few players who have what I call "suction cups" (for hands). Leonard is one of the few. His ability to grab balls sticks out like animation in reality... He also finishes in transition, and powers through opponents with an advanced dribble-drive game. ...He has more assists than turnovers. Leonard's weakness to date is his three-point shooting (.240 career)...If you wonder why San Diego State has been unusually good this season, Kawhi Leonard is the biggest factor.


http://basslinespin.blogspot.com.ar/2011/03/sweet-16-from-nba-perspective.html

[Spurtacular]

This sums up your your lack of knowledge about him.

He didn't make the league shooting 3's, he was under 25% 3P in college and his most notable weakness was his lack of shooting ability.





http://basslinespin.blogspot.com.ar/2011/03/sweet-16-from-nba-perspective.html

It doesn't matter what he did in college. KL came into the league as a three shooter (b/c he worked on his shot in the summer with Chip). KL was given the green light to shoot the corner three from the outset as I said. And he was encouraged to do so. I never otherwise said that KL was a great three shooter in college. But the potential was clearly there; as he was a great 17-19 foot elbow shooter in college. The stroke was there. The mechanics just needed tweaking.

[dweaver99027]

34 mpg - 18 ppg - 7 rpg - 3 apg - 2 spg - 1 bpg - 48% fg - 38% 3pt - 55+ TS% . That's what i'm expecting.

[The_Klaw]

It doesn't matter what he did in college. KL came into the league as a three shooter (b/c he worked on his shot in the summer with Chip). KL was given the green light to shoot the corner three from the outset as I said. And he was encouraged to do so. I never otherwise said that KL was a great three shooter in college. But the potential was clearly there; as he was a great 17-19 foot elbow shooter in college. The stroke was there. The mechanics just needed tweaking.

He didn't work with Chip in the summer, Kawhi had just a couple of days after he was drafted to work with Chip before the NBA lockout. When the lockout liftedt, he had two weeks to practice with the team and then the season started.
The desire, the potential, the work ethic, whatever you want to call it, but again, he didn't come into the league as a three shooter.

[dgspursforlife]

eclipsing TD may be easier than eclipsing Manu tbh, Manu is just a legend and has been a true groundbreaking player, changing the league and how teams regard players playing in Europe.

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

He didn't work with Chip in the summer, Kawhi had just a couple of days after he was drafted to work with Chip before the NBA lockout. When the lockout liftedt, he had two weeks to practice with the team and then the season started.
The desire, the potential, the work ethic, whatever you want to call it, but again, he didn't come into the league as a three shooter.

We can quibble about exactly when KL became a three shooter. It's pretty clear to me that it was soon enough since his second best three percent (a respectable .376) came during his rookie season. And the point was you said KL isn't a three shooter in the first place; and I don't get why you were trying to claim that.

[manu2timdynasty]

Kawhi missed pretty much every jump shot within the last two minutes of the last four games vs. the Clips including a three to tie Game 6 with under a minute left. Just saying...

Look another pretentious ST user, please tell us more Mr. Wizard.

[Spurtacular]

Look another pretentious ST user, please tell us more Mr. Wizard.

Yea, stating the facts is so damn pretentious. Was I being pretentious when I called Kawhi a top five to ten player despite his lack of money play, too?

[manu2timdynasty]

Yea, stating the facts is so damn pretentious. Was I being pretentious when I called Kawhi a top five to ten player despite his lack of money play, too?

Right there “lack of money play" clearly you don't understand what makes Kawhi a top 10. So let me educate you, Kawhi just won DPOY, he's the best 2 way player in the league. That's all, go deliver your trash somewhere else.

[ChumpDumper]

Player fan thread.

[kobyz]

Again the same thread in other variation...

[Dro210]

Like Bowen :lol

Sad thing is that it's true. Proves my point about how much a large part of this board has always, and continues to constantly undersell the Spurs and their players, accomplishments and projections, for God knows what reasons. For the sake of being "classy" and not bragging I guess? Or to protect their own forum ego and keep their predictions within easy reach. Who knows.

I called Scottie Pippen caliber player or better from year one. It wasn't hard to see.

It's like the people who have been saying "probably Duncan's last year" for 4 years. Buncha retards tbh. Always trying to keep expectations low with stuff that they actually have no clue about.

[AFBlue]

Player fan thread.

:lol

Good call Chump.

[look_at_g_shred]

haters mad about this thread :lol

I can't wait to see how Kawhi grows next year. This season can't start soon enough.
Yea, cuz we all hate Kawhi. It's his dick rider that we cannot stand dumbass.

[look_at_g_shred]

Right there “lack of money play" clearly you don't understand what makes Kawhi a top 10. So let me educate you, Kawhi just won DPOY, he's the best 2 way player in the league. That's all, go deliver your trash somewhere else.
He's great. Just not a go to guy at the end of games.

[look_at_g_shred]

Player fan thread.

[z0sa]

Sup stupid.

[SnakeBoy]

Now, in just 4 years he has eclipsed Bowen in the all time spurs list and in one-three years will most likely eclipse the number 4 and 3 in the all time spurs list..Parker and Manu.


Probably correct assuming he learns how to dribble at some point.

[timtonymanu]

Yea, cuz we all hate Kawhi. It's his dick rider that we cannot stand dumbass.

Better than starting dumb threads about Duncan's 6th being an asterisk, bruh

[Seventyniner]

apalisoc may be a player-hating asshole, but the thread title has a point. Many of us really were hoping Kawhi, when he was drafted, would be Bowen 2.0. Kawhi is far better and the team's ceiling is higher because of it.

[bic50]

Probably correct assuming he learns how to dribble at some point.
He dribbles just fine. What are you talking about?

[look_at_g_shred]

Better than starting dumb threads about Duncan's 6th being an asterisk, bruh
There's no comparison :lmao the butt hurt in that thread :lol

[Mikeanaro]

There's no comparison :lmao the butt hurt in that thread :lol
I dont remember that exactly but, has some idiot made a thread about #6 being an asterisk???

[look_at_g_shred]

I dont remember that exactly but, has some idiot made a thread about #6 being an asterisk???
I guess people still don't get it :lol I was simply implying all the excuses we are going to hear about Duncan surpassing Kobe if he were to get 6!! Nothing more. Nothing less.

[Mikeanaro]

I guess people still don't get it :lol I was simply implying all the excuses we are going to hear about Duncan surpassing Kobe if he were to get 6!! Nothing more. Nothing less.
I think I´ve already read somewhere about the asterisk in a yahoo sports article or here, it was when the LMA choice happened and butthurted fans were complaining about Spurs being too much and winning it all in a cheap way hence the asterisk, but Im too lazy to do a search right now.

[mookie2001]

Kawhi dribbles? Lolol

When.

[bic50]

Kawhi dribbles? Lolol

When.
Well obviously he doesnt have kyrie like handles but hes isnt completely incapable with the ball in his hands.

[Russo21]

Dudes jersey will be hanging from the rafters at the AT&T centre some day that's for damn sure. With Kawhi and Aldridge there will be life after Duncan which we all thought might be a bit of a stretch. Hopefully after TD hangs em up Aldridge and Whi can be the best one two punch in the NBA and bring more titles to SA. Then we'll see Aldridge's jersey in the rafters to. Yeah i'm getting ahead of myself but its August, whatever

[mookie2001]

No he's incapable, trust me. He can bounce the ball off the court with his hands but he cannot dribble against defenders

[Sean Cagney]

13 years ago there was another 19 year old who would win a finals MVP and start his rookie year and nobody expected much of him. Wonder what his name is?

[Mikeanaro]

13 years ago there was another 19 year old who would win a finals MVP and start his rookie year and nobody expected much of him. Wonder what his name is?
Dwayne Wade of course.

[Sean Cagney]

Dwayne Wade of course.

Rookie age 22... He was also 20 13 years ago and turning 21 in October.

[Mikeanaro]

Rookie age 22... He was also 20 13 years ago and turning 21 in October.
Lol, we are talking NBA right? the only dudes are Wade TP and Iggy is only 31, the other FMVP are TOSB excepting Lebron maybe.

[Sean Cagney]

Lol, we are talking NBA right? the only dudes are Wade TP and Iggy is only 31, the other FMVP are TOSB excepting Lebron maybe.

I was just fucking around man honestly, see if someone would bite the bait. TP is what 33 now? I need to look up his age, but I know he came in the league in 01-02.

[Mikeanaro]

I was just fucking around man honestly, see if someone would bite the bait. TP is what 33 now? I need to look up his age, but I know he came in the league in 01-02.
:lmao
Yes he is 33 and so Boris, we are all getting old but still not really old Im hoping those two can perform a Dual Dunk in a game.

[Sean Cagney]

:lmao
Yes he is 33 and so Boris, we are all getting old but still not really old Im hoping those two can perform a Dual Dunk in a game.

Tony better show up this year man.... TBH

[Mikeanaro]

Tony better show up this year man.... TBH
I just want that those two grab the ball dribbling together at the same time jump and dunk as french brothers with perfect coordination, if they do that thing that has never been done before well the playoffs are canceled and Spurs will become the new champions, its in the book of hidden rules :lol

[Sean Cagney]

I just want that those two grab the ball dribbling together at the same time jump and dunk as french brothers with perfect coordination, if they do that thing that has never been done before well the playoffs are canceled and Spurs will become the new champions, its in the book of hidden rules :lol

:lol

[Dro210]

No he's incapable, trust me. He can bounce the ball off the court with his hands but he cannot dribble against defenders

What an idiot.

[mookie2001]

I'd love to see some clips if you can find them

[Mikeanaro]

I'd love to see some clips if you can find them
This is good enough for me
http://i.minus.com/iCSaH9fGE4BWe.gif

[LaMarcus Bryant]

This is good enough for me
http://i.minus.com/iCSaH9fGE4BWe.gif

PWNT

[SnakeBoy]

This is good enough for me
http://i.minus.com/iCSaH9fGE4BWe.gif

Pretty good clip...He bounced the ball twice without losing control....baby steps.

[The_Klaw]

Pretty good clip...He bounced the ball twice without losing control....baby steps.

Agreed. He has improved every season
https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/TGpMWb_iki5Klycr5gLapKzxoIo=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3641196/whi-gotn.0.gif

Not only dribble with his left-weak hand, made the points, too.

[dweaver99027]

His In-and-Out dribble is top notch because of his huge hands. His crossover, hesitation and stepback are virtually non-existent so far.

[mookie2001]

I love his drives but he doesn't dribble against defenders. It's the only thing non-splitter related thing that I looked for this season. We have the best all around 2-3 combo in the league and they are two of the worst ball handling wings in the nba.

[mookie2001]

A pullup move is not dribbling. Simply because he is rarely checked so far from the basket. He's a wide open dunk and catch and shoot guy going into his 5th season

[sananspursfan21]

Uhhh has he been quoted saying he wanted to be like Bowen? Am I missing something because I don't think there's too many kids out there aspiring to be like Bruce Bowen, no offense to his great name in Spurs lore

[The_Klaw]

We can quibble about exactly when KL became a three shooter. It's pretty clear to me that it was soon enough since his second best three percent (a respectable .376) came during his rookie season. And the point was you said KL isn't a three shooter in the first place; and I don't get why you were trying to claim that.

He can shoot 3's? Yes. He is a three-point shooter? No.

Korver, Curry, Green, Thompson, Belinelli, they're three-point shooters, not Kawhi.

[DeRozan m8]

Gonna be GOAT

Cheers

[Spurtacular]

He can shoot 3's? Yes. He is a three-point shooter? No.

Korver, Curry, Green, Thompson, Belinelli, they're three-point shooters, not Kawhi.

Being a three shooter doesn't mean one's elite at it. If one is averaging three three attempts a game, he is a three shooter in that his team is relying on him to be able to make some threes in the system. Now, CoJo would make an odd three; but he wasn't a three shooter. He wasn't typically spotting up waiting for an opportunity to shoot threes like KL.

[The_Klaw]

We're watching in the clips, dribbling ball handling, crossover moves, he's improving.

He doesn't need Irving crossover, for a forward like him, his ball-handling doesn't leave much to be desired and is good enough to attack the rim.

[Spurtacular]

KL has good handles for a SF. Sometimes, he doesn't dribble with as much confidence as a man with his power should is all.

[The_Klaw]

Being a three shooter doesn't mean one's elite at it.
Mean to be a specialist.


If one is averaging three three attempts a game, he is a three shooter in that his team is relying on him to be able to make some threes in the system. Now, CoJo would make an odd three; but he wasn't a three shooter. He wasn't typically spotting up waiting for an opportunity to shoot threes like KL.
He's a three shooter in Spurs system? In his first seasons he was often relegated to the corner as spot up shooter, he was good, but not a corner-bomber.
His three-point shot is good enough to help spread the floor? Maybe. This transforms him into a three-point shooter? You say yes, I say no. Agree to disagree?

[Spurtacular]

Mean to be a specialist.


He's a three shooter in Spurs system? In his first seasons he was often relegated to the corner as spot up shooter, he was good, but not a corner-bomber.
His three-point shot is good enough to help spread the floor? Maybe. This transforms him into a three-point shooter? You say yes, I say no. Agree to disagree?

Well, I see all your points. I was just noting that KL is a three shooter in that it is significant part of his game, and the Spurs depend on him to make threes at a reasonable clip.