Marjanovic diagnosed with bone edema

[FuzzyLumpkins]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/boban-marjanovic-injury-update


SAN ANTONIO (August 4, 2015) – After a physical exam, which included a MRI, San Antonio Spurs center Boban Marjanović has been diagnosed significant bony edema in his left ankle. The exam was performed by Dr. Richard Ferkel, director of sports medicine at the Southern California Orthopedic Institute.​

The Spurs medical team, in conjunction with Dr. Ferkel’s recommendation, has determined the injury compromises Marjanović's ability to play basketball without compromising long-term health and future injury.

As a result of these findings and in the best interest of his future health, Spurs officials have informed Marjanović and the Serbian Basketball Federation that, under the agreement between FIBA and the NBA, Marjanović will not be allowed to participate with the Serbian National Team in Eurobasket 2015.

Has to do with the bone marrow swelling in an area often caused by other local damage to the bone or ligaments.

[ceperez]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/boban-marjanovic-injury-update



Has to do with the bone marrow swelling in an area often caused by other local damage to the bone or ligaments.

Explains the boot he was wearing in the photo.

Well, at least they know what his problem is. Spurs medical could never figure out what was wrong with Splitter's calf.

[Mamuza94]

Misko Raznatovic (Boban's agent) on twitter (https://twitter.com/MiskoRaznatovic):


We are totally disagree with the opinion of San Antonio and it is the absurd. We're trying to prove that the MRI results of feet are the same as two years ago, and that what they saw was not a result of injury, but the natural structure of the foot of 222cm tall human being.

If we succeed in our efforts, which are the maximum, we are ready to go in war, despite a very difficult text of the contract between FIBA and NBA.

[Dex]

Well this is certainly not the best way to start out his Spurs tenure.

[TXstbobcat]

That sucks! I hope he will be okay and have a good start to his NBA career with the Spurs.

[Brazil]

gonna end well :rolleyes

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol handwringers have already written him off. we already knew he was hurt and if this is indeed the injury it's not a huge deal and treatable several ways.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

We just need one or two seasons of sparse minutes from him

[Chinook]

If they don't like the way the Spurs do things, the team should cut him loose. Withey is still out there, isn't he?

[monkeypunk]

He's got plenty of time to rest now and come into camp healthy but if he aggregates it then it will likely be an ongoing issue with him for the rest of his career. Likely due to him being a fucking giant, bodies aren't designed to take that much weight on them little tiny feet bones.

Luckily, he's only signed for one year and won't even be relied on this coming year anyway as we have Bonner!!!!!!!! Yayyyyyyyyaarggghhh blechhh.... Sorry just vomited in my mouth a lil.

[Robz4000]

If they don't like the way the Spurs do things, the team should cut him loose. Withey is still out there, isn't he?

This

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Sit his ass. His agent is acting dumb.

[bluebellmaniac]

If they don't like the way the Spurs do things, the team should cut him loose. Withey is still out there, isn't he?

Is his contract guaranteed? Wouldn't that be a $2.5M or so hit?

His agent is not well versed in the Spurs way of doing things. Airing his grievances will only doom his client to the end of the bench all year.

[UZER]

Gonna start WWIII

[dweaver99027]

Manu got over it. Boban will too.

[Chinook]

Is his contract guaranteed? Wouldn't that be a $2.5M or so hit?

His agent is not well versed in the Spurs way of doing things. Airing his grievances will only doom his client to the end of the bench all year.

Yeah, if the team cuts him, they have to pay him. However, if Boban wants to play for the SNT, he can take a buyout of $0, which means he wouldn't affect the cap or tax.

[Mamuza94]

Is his contract guaranteed? Wouldn't that be a $2.5M or so hit?

His agent is not well versed in the Spurs way of doing things. Airing his grievances will only doom his client to the end of the bench all year.

He is great agent, the best in Europe for sure and he love basketball and know how things are. And now he is just fighting for Serbian NT and for Boban. Cuz Boban's dream is to play for Serbia at some big tournament. And if Misko have right (about structure of Boban's foot), why he would'nt have tried to convince them to let Marjanovic play.

[Embedded]

He's got plenty of time to rest now and come into camp healthy but if he aggregates it then it will likely be an ongoing issue with him for the rest of his career. Likely due to him being a fucking giant, bodies aren't designed to take that much weight on them little tiny feet bones.

Luckily, he's only signed for one year and won't even be relied on this coming year anyway as we have Bonner!!!!!!!! Yayyyyyyyyaarggghhh blechhh.... Sorry just vomited in my mouth a lil.

Ewww, I hate when that happens, especially when I have a bowl of Captain Crunch with Crunchberries for breakfast.

[mbass]

Misko Raznatovic (Boban's agent) on twitter (https://twitter.com/MiskoRaznatovic):

I think I'd take the recommendations of the USC sports medicine, orthopedic specialist in ankle and other bone injuries, over that of a sports agent, for goodness sake.

[RD2191]

Get that faggot and his agent the fuck outta here.

[Genjuro]

Raznatovic is a very powerful guy in Europe, almost almighty in the Balkans. Godfather type. He has influence on who gets selected for the Serbian NT, so pushing for Marjanovic to play this summer is a way of strengthening his position there.

[RD2191]

Fucking foreigners and their wanting to play for their shit national teams.

[Mamuza94]

Fucking foreigners and their wanting to play for their shit national teams.

Are u retarded or what?

[Genjuro]

Fucking foreigners and their wanting to play for their shit national teams.

Yeah, you probably wish the Spurs only played Americans...

[Fireball]

Are u retarded or what? yes he is ...

[Kool Bob Love]

Fucking foreigners and their wanting to play for their shit national teams.

Duncan played for USA basketball a decade ago You fucking scooter boy mfer.

[RD2191]

Lol. Faggy euroball.

[RD2191]

Duncan played for USA basketball a decade ago You fucking scooter boy mfer.
How are your cats? You still in that piece of shit apartment? Get your funds up broke bitch.

[Kool Bob Love]

Will atleast it's a real injury not fake hand injury or pink eye.

[Kool Bob Love]

How are your cats? You still in that piece of shit apartment? Get your funds up broke bitch.

Why you acting brand new now clown? You still a bitch name change or not.

[Kidd K]

Facepalm. So is this guy fucked or something now? This gonna be one of those "needs rest for 2 weeks every month-month and a half, and occaisionally done for the season" things?

[RD2191]

Why you acting brand new now clown? You still a bitch name change or not.
Why you acting like you arent the forum jizz rag bruh?

[RD2191]

How much is the serbian national team paying him? Tbh.

[Mamuza94]

$1.5 mill.

[RD2191]

$1.5 mill.
Under the table or what?

[hater]

Fuck your dreams clown. You are a spur and you belongs to us Biatch. Sit your ass down.

[BackHome]

Why you acting brand new now clown? You still a bitch name change or not.

:lmao +1

[Mamuza94]

Under the table or what?

Official. Every Serbian player got $1.5 million per year for playing for NT.

[RD2191]

:lmao +1
Oh look, your 17th alt.

[RD2191]

Official. Every Serbian player got $1.5 million per year for playing for NT.
So what do you think? Should he play or not?

[Mamuza94]

I already said it. If the situation is like his agent said, he should play.

[hater]

Well he wont. Get over it.

[Mamuza94]

If u say so...

[RD2191]

Well he wont. Get over it.
:lol

[cjw]

At least he's on a one year deal at a third of Baynes' price.

[PrimeMinister]

Spurs don't want him to play in Eurobasket. Straight up. Nothing to see here. See you on opening night, Boban.

[Robz4000]

Oh look, your 17th alt.

Add it to the list.

[RD2191]

Add it to the list.
:loltbh

[313]

Will atleast it's a real injury not fake hand injury or pink eye.

:lol super pink eye

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Could have been worse, guys that tall are especially susceptible to long bone cancer (almost always in the legs) and blood clotting in the legs causing heart attacks/gangrene, etc, lots of life threatening possibilities

[Genjuro]

Official. Every Serbian player got $1.5 million per year for playing for NT.
I highly doubt it. They may have got $1.5 million last summer after getting to the WC Final, but otherwise I would bet they get a lot less.

[Mnky]

I already said it. If the situation is like his agent said, he should play.

His agent has a brand to protect. He represents these clients and the national team etc, he HAS to seem opposed to bobo sitting out. No one wants to be the guy who didn't fight for his country. The agent does t have a medical degree either, I'm guessing, which makes it seem more likely than not this is all publicity stunt. The Spurs are known for having an impeccable record, If not the best with foreign players and coaches. He could ruin all his agents chances of making the NBA if he was screwing the spurs over.

I think it's more of a media stunt. What's your take?

[dweaver99027]

I highly doubt the Serbian federation shells out 18 mil to players just for participation. Maybe as a bonus for winning the tournament.

[Mikeanaro]

Those giant people issues, they always carry some kind of bone/heart problems.

[Russ]

The Spurs medical team, in conjunction with Dr. Ferkel’s recommendation, has determined the injury compromises Marjanović's ability to play basketball without compromising long-term health and future injury.

That's the only fact that matters (and why his agent is pissed).

The downside to playing him is that he might not be as effective as otherwise -- it shouldn't hurt him further.

Therefore, according to his agent, why not let him play -- if he's ineffective, they can just sit him.

[RD2191]

You dont question the best sports organization in the world tbh. I have a problem with that.

[Obstructed_View]

I already said it. If the situation is like his agent said, he should play.
You also said you believe a sports agent over a rather well-respected doctor.

[spursistan]

Get that faggot and his agent the fuck outta here.
:lol dude couldn't wait to go the Yao Ming way on us..

[Spur-Addict]

How are your cats? You still in that piece of shit apartment? Get your funds up broke bitch.

:lol

[SupremeGuy]

How are your cats? You still in that piece of shit apartment? Get your funds up broke bitch.Rob goin' in raw :lol

[Mamuza94]

I highly doubt it. They may have got $1.5 million last summer after getting to the WC Final, but otherwise I would bet they get a lot less.

I made that up. It was stupid (who can beleive in that?) answer on his stupid question. And afther i just continued with trolling.


You also said you believe a sports agent over a rather well-respected doctor.

Look, i'm not that retarded to believe that agent is more expert than that doctors. Just saying that may have chance that they didn't come across this before. You know... he is 7-3 tall, with how many guys like him you have chance to work? And that they could think about it again. That's all.

[random21]

Fuck that agent....

[Mamuza94]

Serbian coach said after Spurs call Boban to come in LA that he is suspicious about it. And now he say it again, that it is something behind all this.

Because Boban last game was some frendly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8f1PDTeiG4&feature=youtu.be) match at June 28th, and after that he isn't play basketball for 5 weeks. Absolutely out of any physical activity. And now he can't play? Plus, on first test (by Spurs medical staff) in Milano it turned out that everything is fine.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

good to hear that it's just a bone bruise and swelling.

[JeffDuncan]

good to hear that it's just a bone bruise and swelling.

Right. Okay, now what about his ears?

[Obstructed_View]

Look, i'm not that retarded to believe that agent is more expert than that doctors. Just saying that may have chance that they didn't come across this before. You know... he is 7-3 tall, with how many guys like him you have chance to work? And that they could think about it again. That's all.

If it were a brain scan, maybe. He does have two feet, and they aren't the same at this point. That makes a rather easy reference point for a doctor. Bone marrow edema is a precursor to stress fractures, and isn't hard to see on an MRI. I find it highly unlikely that he congenitally has more liquid in the bones of only one foot. Letting him play competitive basketball seems like it would be insanity at this point.

[bic50]

Will atleast it's a real injury not fake hand injury or pink eye.
Are you really this f****** stupid?

[ChumpDumper]

Serbian coach said after Spurs call Boban to come in LA that he is suspicious about it. And now he say it again, that it is something behind all this.

Because Boban last game was some frendly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8f1PDTeiG4&feature=youtu.be) match at June 28th, and after that he isn't play basketball for 5 weeks. Absolutely out of any physical activity. And now he can't play? Plus, on first test (by Spurs medical staff) in Milano it turned out that everything is fine.It's a conspiracy!

[bic50]

:lol super pink eye
Oh look another kawhi hater. Hates kawhi for...no reason whatsoever. Smh

[SPURt]

Next stop Carlos Boozer or Carlos Boozer... his agent might have some leverage

[Mamuza94]

If it were a brain scan, maybe. He does have two feet, and they aren't the same at this point. That makes a rather easy reference point for a doctor. Bone marrow edema is a precursor to stress fractures, and isn't hard to see on an MRI. I find it highly unlikely that he congenitally has more liquid in the bones of only one foot. Letting him play competitive basketball seems like it would be insanity at this point.

I see your point. It cross my mind too but... i don't know. Will see dafuq is going on.


It's a conspiracy!
!!!

[rjv]

aren't 7'4" players always at risk for foot and ankle problems?

[Bruno]

Like basically everything, it isn't a black or white situation. There is definitively something wrong with Marjanovic foot (hence the swelling) but he could have played through it. In fact without the David Pick article and quotes from Radovic, he would have played the Eurobasket.

Spurs have Serbian NT have quite opposite interest:
- Spurs aren't concerned with how well Serbia will do this summer. Their goal is to have fully healthy players for the training camp. If there is a risk, even a slight one, that a player get an injury because of a previous issue, they won't allow it.
- Serbian NT main goal is to win games and be as good as possible for the Eurobasket. They aren't that concerned with a player developing an injury that could sidelined him with his future NBA team.

The FIBA/NBA agreement gives the upper hand to the NBA team to determine is a player is fit to play with his NT. Spurs use it at their advantage and protect their investment. And yes, it sucks for Serbian NT and their coach. They have every right to be upset.

[Manu-of-steel]

Could have been worse, guys that tall are especially susceptible to long bone cancer (almost always in the legs) and blood clotting in the legs causing heart attacks/gangrene, etc, lots of life threatening possibilities
What you are peddling are false. Are you a doctor?

[Dex]

It's not like this is a "Spurs only" thing. There are reasons this rule exists in NBA and FIBA contracts. Any other NBA team (or at least, the ones worth their weight in salt) would have done the exact same thing. Welcome to the NBA, Bobi.

If you want to play for your national team, great! But you are also now a contractually obligated asset, and if playing is going to pose a significant risk to that asset, well...sit down and shut up tbh.

His agent's whole "go to war" comment really rubs me the wrong way.

[ceperez]

Misko Raznatovic (Boban's agent) on twitter (https://twitter.com/MiskoRaznatovic):

What a jerk agent. Spurs have the rights to Boban's health after the contract was signed. They've assessed the situation and are being conservative with the situation.

[timtonymanu]

His agent should stfu, tbh. You know what you signed up for

[timtonymanu]

Why you acting brand new now clown? You still a bitch name change or not.

Your comebacks are so stale. It's no wonder you have so many alts cause no one laughs at your lame material.

[ElNono]

Gonna wait for the official word from the Spurs. Probably a hit piece by Mike Monroe, tbh

[UNT Eagles 2016]

What you are peddling are false. Are you a doctor?
Greg Oden almost died of a heart attack or something similar because of blood vessels in his ankles, tbh

Then you have Chris Bosh and his leg clot that caused his lungs to swell up and almost kill him

[Kool Bob Love]

Your comebacks are so stale. It's no wonder you have so many alts cause no one laughs at your lame material.

Don't quote me anymore clown.

[Kool Bob Love]

^^^


Are you really this f****** stupid?

[Kool Bob Love]

Rob goin' in raw :lol

Glad you decide to change the avy. That ugly ass mug was killing my apatite.

[timtonymanu]

Don't quote me anymore clown.

Stale comeback per par

[Kool Bob Love]

Stale comeback per par


Don't quote me anymore clown.

[timtonymanu]

Cat Love is angry now. :lol

Looking through every thread to reply to my posts with lame material.

[Kool Bob Love]

Bravo on following direction. Took you two times but that's progress. :tu

[timtonymanu]

Bravo on following direction. Took you two times but that's progress. :tu

Now you just need to log in to one of your alts and :lol yourself.

[Kool Bob Love]

Now you just need to log in to one of your alts and :lol yourself.

you were doing sooo good. Let's try this again. Sigh.


Don't quote me anymore clown.

[objective]

It's not like this is a "Spurs only" thing. There are reasons this rule exists in NBA and FIBA contracts. Any other NBA team (or at least, the ones worth their weight in salt) would have done the exact same thing. Welcome to the NBA, Bobi.

If you want to play for your national team, great! But you are also now a contractually obligated asset, and if playing is going to pose a significant risk to that asset, well...sit down and shut up tbh.

His agent's whole "go to war" comment really rubs me the wrong way.

I think it might be the same agent of Milutinov and Dangubic, and controls lots of other players in a fashion that suggests the players work for him and not vice versa. So I imagine if he wanted to go to war he'd have some ammo.

[spursgu]

Get that faggot and his agent the fuck outta here.


This

[Mugen]

:lol Whiskers faggy'n up another summer thread tbh

[ginobilized]

Perhaps we can all agree that Marjanovic's career is starting off on the wrong foot.

[Uriel]

Perhaps we can all agree that Marjanovic's career is starting off on the wrong foot.
Clever.

[KaiRMD1]

Damn I miss Tiago Splitter
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e3/41/52/e341526b36a801674419183ba78b6703.jpg

[Budkin]

He will barely play anyway.

[disciple]

I hope his agent end up with his foot in his mouth.

[playjimmer]

That's the only fact that matters (and why his agent is pissed).

The downside to playing him is that he might not be as effective as otherwise -- it shouldn't hurt him further.

Therefore, according to his agent, why not let him play -- if he's ineffective, they can just sit him.
WTF are you talking about? It says "compromises Marjanović's ability to play basketball without compromising long-term health and future injury." Meaning he can't play basketball without compromising his health. SO if he plays, it compromises his health.

[TheGreatYacht]

Even with a bad foot, he's still an upgrade over Errors.

[RD2191]

:lol Whiskers faggy'n up another summer thread tbh
:lol

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

This guy needs to forget about international play and concentrate on getting healthy for the upcoming NBA season...

[GSH]

Bone marrow edema is a precursor to stress fractures, and isn't hard to see on an MRI.

If it's got anything to do with stress micro-fractures, it's the result and not a precursor. Bone edema doesn't cause the micro-fractures, or show up in advance. It's the body's response to them.

The doctor diagnosed "significant bony edema". A doctor doesn't choose those words by accident, and it won't be something that has been there his whole life. He may have been playing with stress injury in the ankle for a while, but "significant bony edema" isn't congenital. The treatment for stress injury is rest. Not reduced playing time, rest. Don't let it heal all the way, and it will flare back up before you know it.

He could have ligament/tendon problems that could cause bone edema, but that would mean he's courting some of the same problems Tim has had. Or he could have had a deep bruise that crushed some bone fibers, and caused edema. The solution for both of those (assuming it isn't permanent damage) is the same - rest. He could have cartilage damage that lets bone rub on bone, and has caused edema. Rest won't fix that, but it will let the bone injury heal.

Significant bone edema - he needs to be off the court and in a boot. The rest of the yammer is pure horseshit and a waste of time. If they get him back on the NT this season, they're playing with his future there as well as here. Rest is not a punishment.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

His agent sounds like a dumbass.

[BillMc]

Obviously I'm concerned about Boban's health, which should be the main issue. But the other issue is will this create significant bad blood with the Spurs? As others have mentioned, Manu got over being blocked from playing with his NT, but he has (obviously) a much longer relationship with PATFO. This agent and his "war" stance can't really be a good thing.

I feel sorry for Boban. I understand why players want to play for their NT's and I have supported other Spurs players who have wished to do so in the past. I respect his love of his country and the international game. But a big guy with a foot/ankle injury...it's better he rest now, than make it worse by playing.

Also, this agent doesn't seem to realize that he'll make no friends in the Spurs organization by taking the issues public. Maybe, he doesn't care. But as they are one of the most aggressive teams in acquiring overseas players, he'll likely have to deal with them beyond Marjanovic at some point.

[TheGreatYacht]

Obviously I'm concerned about Boban's health, which should be the main issue. But the other issue is will this create significant bad blood with the Spurs? As others have mentioned, Manu got over being blocked from playing with his NT, but he has (obviously) a much longer relationship with PATFO. This agent and his "war" stance can't really be a good thing.

I feel sorry for Boban. I understand why players want to play for their NT's and I have supported other Spurs players who have wished to do so in the past. I respect his love of his country and the international game. But a big guy with a foot/ankle injury...it's better he rest now, that make it worse by not playing.

Also, this agent doesn't seem to realize that he'll make no friends in the Spurs organization by taking the issues public. Maybe, he doesn't care. But they are one of the most aggressive teams in acquiring overseas players he'll like have to deal with them beyond Marjanovic at some point.
Well put :tu

[Kidd K]

Like basically everything, it isn't a black or white situation. There is definitively something wrong with Marjanovic foot (hence the swelling) but he could have played through it. In fact without the David Pick article and quotes from Radovic, he would have played the Eurobasket.

Spurs have Serbian NT have quite opposite interest:
- Spurs aren't concerned with how well Serbia will do this summer. Their goal is to have fully healthy players for the training camp. If there is a risk, even a slight one, that a player get an injury because of a previous issue, they won't allow it.
- Serbian NT main goal is to win games and be as good as possible for the Eurobasket. They aren't that concerned with a player developing an injury that could sidelined him with his future NBA team.

The FIBA/NBA agreement gives the upper hand to the NBA team to determine is a player is fit to play with his NT. Spurs use it at their advantage and protect their investment. And yes, it sucks for Serbian NT and their coach. They have every right to be upset.

Tbh, if they actually said anything like that bolded line, imo they have no right whatsoever to be upset and proved the Spurs should be trying to get him pulled from playing for them.

Spurs are paying him over a million bucks to play. Serbia's paying nothing. Fuck his national team tbh.

[spursistan]

Spurs basically railroaded Manu fucking Ginobili into missing Intl Basketball with Argentina last summer so this dude and his agent shouldn't be trying to second guess us..He isn't walking in the NBA to play for the Kings or some other dreary franchise..a humongous big with foot issues is the reddest of flags, END OF..

[BillMc]

Well put :tu
:bobo Cheers!

[ceperez]

I think it might be the same agent of Milutinov and Dangubic, and controls lots of other players in a fashion that suggests the players work for him and not vice versa. So I imagine if he wanted to go to war he'd have some ammo.

The agent's attitude here is extremely distressing. It's like he thinks of himself as the gatekeeper of his players rather than a facilitator to their careers.

[ceperez]

Perhaps we can all agree that Marjanovic's career is starting off on the wrong foot.

:bobo

[ceperez]

Like basically everything, it isn't a black or white situation. There is definitively something wrong with Marjanovic foot (hence the swelling) but he could have played through it. In fact without the David Pick article and quotes from Radovic, he would have played the Eurobasket.

Spurs have Serbian NT have quite opposite interest:
- Spurs aren't concerned with how well Serbia will do this summer. Their goal is to have fully healthy players for the training camp. If there is a risk, even a slight one, that a player get an injury because of a previous issue, they won't allow it.
- Serbian NT main goal is to win games and be as good as possible for the Eurobasket. They aren't that concerned with a player developing an injury that could sidelined him with his future NBA team.

The FIBA/NBA agreement gives the upper hand to the NBA team to determine is a player is fit to play with his NT. Spurs use it at their advantage and protect their investment. And yes, it sucks for Serbian NT and their coach. They have every right to be upset.

I agree, they have every right to be upset. Also the consensus is that American doctors are overly conservative/cautious as compared to doctors elsewhere.

However the quote 'going to war', says that 'we are going to make your life miserable because of this'. A really bad remark that I hope that agent doesn't pursue that goal.

[benefactor]

:lol Whiskers faggy'n up another summer thread tbh
:lol

[hater]

Lol why spursfans concerned about a 12th mans injuries :lol

Long offseason

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Yao Ming anyone? That's the name that came to mind when I read the news on Marjanovic. These giants are too big for their own good.

[Mamuza94]

Dragan Djilas, presiden of Serbian Basketball sent a letter to RC.

http://www.kss.rs/wp-content/uploads/Letter-from-SRB-Federation-President-the-player-Boban-Marjanovic.pdf

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

More eloquent than his agent but will be just as futile.

[ceperez]

Dragan Djilas, presiden of Serbian Basketball sent a letter to RC.

http://www.kss.rs/wp-content/uploads/Letter-from-SRB-Federation-President-the-player-Boban-Marjanovic.pdf

This is getting problematic.

So now its the assessment of one medical staff over another medical staff?

What's the incentive of the Spurs medical staff to admit they were too conservative? If Boban plays and his feet gets worse, the Spurs medical staff will be responsible.

What's the incentive of RC to override the Spurs medical staff decision?

SRB is saying that RC should override Spurs staff opinion and roll the dice on Boban. Make sense from the Serbian perspective, but not for the Spurs who are spending millions of dollars on Boban.

The downside of this is that Spurs may get a tarnished reputation that they don't allow their players to play in international meets. I think this is best resolved with a Serbian shouting match.... Serbian vs Serbian. The way it works is you vent as much as you can, but you never compromise. Spurs will stick to their guns.

Let Pop deal with this, he knows how to deal with Serbians. RC should bow out 'coz he's an American and will absolutely not get it.

[RGMCSE]

Why you acting brand new now clown? You still a bitch name change or not.

Hes jealous of Caitlyn. Hence the "transition"...

[BillMc]

Dragan Djilas, presiden of Serbian Basketball sent a letter to RC.

http://www.kss.rs/wp-content/uploads/Letter-from-SRB-Federation-President-the-player-Boban-Marjanovic.pdf


Thank you for posting that. Djilas is certainly more business like that the agent was. And I see this as a very unfortunate conflict of interests for both sides. I do wonder, however, why this letter is available to the public, as opposed to just sent privately to the Spurs? Is this normal?

Best, Bill

[Bruno]

Tbh, if they actually said anything like that bolded line, imo they have no right whatsoever to be upset and proved the Spurs should be trying to get him pulled from playing for them.

They haven't said something like that. I will try to explain better what I meant by that.

Marjanovic has a bone edema. There is a 95% odd (made up number) that playing with his NT will have no consequences and there is a 5% odd that the bone edema turns into a break that will sideline Marjanovic for at least a couple of months.
- Spurs are worried about these 5% and that's why the don't allow him to play.
- Serbian NT doctors considers that it's a very low risk that doesn't necessitate Marjanovic not playing with the NT.


Spurs are paying him over a million bucks to play. Serbia's paying nothing. Fuck his national team tbh.

Well, it's debatable.
During his youth, people in Serbia have spend a lot time and money to develop him as a basketball player. One can say it creates a moral debt and that playing for the NT is a way to pay it while Marjanovic won't really be able to help Serbian basketball when he is in SA.

At the end it's a question of personal moral values that isn't limited to basketball.
For example, in a country like France, studies to be an engineer, which are expensive, are often free and are paid by the state. Is it fine that someone at the end of its studies decides to work at the silicon valley and never come back to France?

[bigfan]

http://www.prensa1.com/images/thumbs/1311770696546.jpeg Should have brought this guy over instead.

[TheGreatYacht]

Glad you decide to change the avy. That ugly ass mug was killing my apatite.
:lmao :lmao

[Chinook]

If I were the Spurs I would be willing to let Boban play for the SNT if he agrees to make his contract non-guaranteed. There's no sense in the Spurs owning the financial obligation if he gets hurt when they don't want him to go. I'm sure some Serbian insurance group can give him a policy to cover his salary if he gets injured. Seems like the best of both worlds.

[Obstructed_View]

If it's got anything to do with stress micro-fractures, it's the result and not a precursor. Bone edema doesn't cause the micro-fractures, or show up in advance. It's the body's response to them.

The doctor diagnosed "significant bony edema". A doctor doesn't choose those words by accident, and it won't be something that has been there his whole life. He may have been playing with stress injury in the ankle for a while, but "significant bony edema" isn't congenital. The treatment for stress injury is rest. Not reduced playing time, rest. Don't let it heal all the way, and it will flare back up before you know it.

He could have ligament/tendon problems that could cause bone edema, but that would mean he's courting some of the same problems Tim has had. Or he could have had a deep bruise that crushed some bone fibers, and caused edema. The solution for both of those (assuming it isn't permanent damage) is the same - rest. He could have cartilage damage that lets bone rub on bone, and has caused edema. Rest won't fix that, but it will let the bone injury heal.

Significant bone edema - he needs to be off the court and in a boot. The rest of the yammer is pure horseshit and a waste of time. If they get him back on the NT this season, they're playing with his future there as well as here. Rest is not a punishment.

Clearly you know far more about it than I do. Even if it's what I mentioned, which seems pretty serious, it's far less serious than what you outlined above. Seems pretty clear that playing is an unreasonable risk.

Shifting gears a bit, we've heard the song his agent is singing before. You get a guy who can't play, a rabid fan base who wants to win at all costs, so the Spurs step in and happily play the part of the bad guy, allowing everyone else to save face and the player to heal up.

[kobyz]

From Javtokas freek accident to Bartnes twice tearing his knees, to now Marjanovic, is there a curse causing every international spurs player to get injured?

[ceperez]

They haven't said something like that. I will try to explain better what I meant by that.

Marjanovic has a bone edema. There is a 95% odd (made up number) that playing with his NT will have no consequences and there is a 5% odd that the bone edema turns into a break that will sideline Marjanovic for at least a couple of months.
- Spurs are worried about these 5% and that's why the don't allow him to play.
- Serbian NT doctors considers that it's a very low risk that doesn't necessitate Marjanovic not playing with the NT.


Well, it's debatable.
During his youth, people in Serbia have spend a lot time and money to develop him as a basketball player. One can say it creates a moral debt and that playing for the NT is a way to pay it while Marjanovic won't really be able to help Serbian basketball when he is in SA.

At the end it's a question of personal moral values that isn't limited to basketball.
For example, in a country like France, studies to be an engineer, which are expensive, are often free and are paid by the state. Is it fine that someone at the end of its studies decides to work at the silicon valley and never come back to France?

Great analysis. You should be an advisor for the Spurs with regards to international players.

You are right here that Boban and his handlers have major pressure to have him play for the NT.

[Axegrinder]

From Javtokas freek accident to Bartnes twice tearing his knees, to now Marjanovic, is there a curse causing every international spurs player to get injured?
:lolWhat is it with you and curses? You a gypsy or something?

[littlecoyotecoin]

They haven't said something like that. I will try to explain better what I meant by that.

Marjanovic has a bone edema. There is a 95% odd (made up number) that playing with his NT will have no consequences and there is a 5% odd that the bone edema turns into a break that will sideline Marjanovic for at least a couple of months.
- Spurs are worried about these 5% and that's why the don't allow him to play.
- Serbian NT doctors considers that it's a very low risk that doesn't necessitate Marjanovic not playing with the NT.


Well, it's debatable.
During his youth, people in Serbia have spend a lot time and money to develop him as a basketball player. One can say it creates a moral debt and that playing for the NT is a way to pay it while Marjanovic won't really be able to help Serbian basketball when he is in SA.

At the end it's a question of personal moral values that isn't limited to basketball.
For example, in a country like France, studies to be an engineer, which are expensive, are often free and are paid by the state. Is it fine that someone at the end of its studies decides to work at the silicon valley and never come back to France?

Yes. Quite a moral dilemma. Even further, that if the state provides something that is "free", even though it was ostensibly paid for with tax dollars (possibly your own) of some kind, the state somehow owns your ass. It is a conundrum.

[Gladney to see you]

I noticed...a lot of foreign centers do this dip move and it totally exposes them to being blocked. He seems to make himself 6'10" much of the time.

[Mamuza94]

Thank you for posting that. Djilas is certainly more business like that the agent was. And I see this as a very unfortunate conflict of interests for both sides. I do wonder, however, why this letter is available to the public, as opposed to just sent privately to the Spurs? Is this normal?

Best, Bill

Look, basketball in Serbia is huge. And Serbian public has to know everything. Basketball Federation is now under pressure because of this situation and we can say that this is normal. :)

BTW. i think it's retarded to discuss about which side pay him. Cuz, it's not all about $. I'd give a kidney to be able to represent Serbia.

[RD2191]

Why is scrubonovic still on the team?

[Plum Island]

Look, basketball in Serbia is huge. And Serbian public has to know everything. Basketball Federation is now under pressure because of this situation and we can say that this is normal. :)

BTW. i think it's retarded to discuss about which side pay him. Cuz, it's not all about $. I'd give a kidney to be able to represent Serbia.
That would be a bad move. Give up a kidney and the Spurs will step in and not allow you to play.
And then there you'll be: alone in a tub full of ice, lees one kidney and playing basketball for nobody.

[Mamuza94]

That would be a bad move. Give up a kidney and the Spurs will step in and not allow you to play.
And then there you'll be: alone in a tub full of ice, lees one kidney and playing basketball for nobody.

Who said basketball?

[littlecoyotecoin]

BTW. i think it's retarded to discuss about which side pay him. Cuz, it's not all about $. I'd give a kidney to be able to represent Serbia.

That is a very stupid statement. Someone has to pay him. You may want to play for free, but you're also probably not under contract to play for someone else for 1.5 million dollars. Just guessin'. He isn't going to play for free, because he CAN, and IS monetizing his skill. As soon as he signs that contract, the rules apply to him. Chinook's proposal is more than fair, and it is retarded for you or anyone else to expect them to take risk they are contractually allowed to avoid. The Spurs would be being very generous to allow him out of the contract given Chinook's terms. And it would be retarded to expect them to pay him 1.5 million if he plays on an injured foot against their wishes.

Letting him and Serbia take the risk, and giving The Spurs back their open roster spot at no cost,other than opportunity cost of pursuing other players that have now been signed by other teams, seems like a good solution if you want him to play. That you would argue against that is a little bizarre. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. That probably doesn't translate well, but that doesn't mean you get to.

[Dex]

If the Spurs stuck to their guns with Manu, one of their franchise's most respected players, and sat him out of the NT even though he obviously disagreed with it, I highly suspect they will be doing the same with Boban. Unless, like others have mentioned, there are significant changes to the structure of his contract...and I really don't see that happening.

[Mamuza94]

That is a very stupid statement. Someone has to pay him. You may want to play for free, but you're also probably not under contract to play for someone else for 1.5 million dollars. Just guessin'. He isn't going to play for free, because he CAN, and IS monetizing his skill. As soon as he signs that contract, the rules apply to him. Chinook's proposal is more than fair, and it is retarded for you or anyone else to expect them to take risk they are contractually allowed to avoid. The Spurs would be being very generous to allow him out of the contract given Chinook's terms. And it would be retarded to expect them to pay him 1.5 million if he plays on an injured foot against their wishes.


Letting him and Serbia take the risk, and giving The Spurs back their open roster spot at no cost,other than opportunity cost of pursuing other players that have now been signed by other teams, seems like a good solution if you want him to play. That you would argue against that is a little bizarre. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. That probably doesn't translate well, but that doesn't mean you get to.

You didn't understand me. I thought from player point of view, you know: "Spurs pay me, i'll play for them". Ofc, from other side, it's all about contract and it's normal.

[jeebus]

I don't see why the Sperms don't just let him play. He's going to spend most of next season in a suit anyways, with maybe an hour of total playing time, tops.

[Obstructed_View]

If the Spurs stuck to their guns with Manu, one of their franchise's most respected players, and sat him out of the NT even though he obviously disagreed with it, I highly suspect they will be doing the same with Boban. Unless, like others have mentioned, there are significant changes to the structure of his contract...and I really don't see that happening.
In both situations, it's possible that the Spurs come in and make a decree so they can take the heat instead of the player. Rabid international fanbases, like any rabid fanbase, tends not to be rational at times.

[littlecoyotecoin]

You didn't understud me. I thought from player point of view, you know: "Spurs pay me, i'll play for them". Ofc, from other side, it's all about contract and it's normal.

Apparently I did not. I don't think Chinook's proposal would be done. It would be very unusual. But, I would love to see it happen. They can just tell him that if he plays, they may go a different route, and dump him. This may be a smart move for them to get out of his contract if they were unaware of his foot issues before his coach started talking to the press about him playing on an injured foot. I would be surprised if they didn't know about that before the press mention, but it seems like they might not have based upon the actions that followed.

I know that it's a big enough red flag for me that I wouldn't mind them looking at other options. If they decided to cut Boban loose if he was to agree to Chinook's proposed deal, could I blame The Spurs? No way.

That would pretty much just put it in Boban's court. Amend your deal, play for the NT, and maybe not The Spurs. Adios, buh bye.

Won't happen, but let's do it!

Hate the idea of this guy having foot issues even before he shows up to training camp.

[Uriel]

Dragan Djilas, presiden of Serbian Basketball sent a letter to RC.

http://www.kss.rs/wp-content/uploads/Letter-from-SRB-Federation-President-the-player-Boban-Marjanovic.pdf
This is a nice letter, atrocious grammar aside. Just goes to prove that tact and diplomacy are way more effective bargaining tools than brute force.

[littlecoyotecoin]

In both situations, it's possible that the Spurs come in and make a decree so they can take the heat instead of the player. Rabid international fanbases, like any rabid fanbase, tends not to be rational at times.

Yes. This seems quite possible. It is the smooth poker play. Very plausible.

[ceperez]

Apparently I did not. I don't think Chinook's proposal would be done. It would be very unusual. But, I would love to see it happen. They can just tell him that if he plays, they may go a different route, and dump him. This may be a smart move for them to get out of his contract if they were unaware of his foot issues before his coach started talking to the press about him playing on an injured foot. I would be surprised if they didn't know about that before the press mention, but it seems like they might not have based upon the actions that followed.

I know that it's a big enough red flag for me that I wouldn't mind them looking at other options. If they decided to cut Boban loose if he was to agree to Chinook's proposed deal, could I blame The Spurs? No way.

That would pretty much just put it in Boban's court. Amend your deal, play for the NT, and maybe not The Spurs. Adios, buh bye.

Won't happen, but let's do it!

Hate the idea of this guy having foot issues even before he shows up to training camp.

I agree... amend the deal... let Boban play for the NT... if he comes back as a damage set of goods... then his deal with the Spurs is void. That way, all risk is on the Serbian NT camp.

Spurs want Boban coming in to training camp with the best of health. Difficult to ensure that if he's stressing his foot out in NT play.

[venitian navigator]

I wonder if it's possible to mantain the structure of the present contract (I mean with the qualifyng offer of 1.500.000 for the second year) if the contract is switched from a guaranteed to a non guaranteed...

[Dex]

In both situations, it's possible that the Spurs come in and make a decree so they can take the heat instead of the player. Rabid international fanbases, like any rabid fanbase, tends not to be rational at times.

I sincerely hope this is the case. While there is obviously the injury concern to deal with, I really would hate for Boban's first interaction with the Spurs to be bad blood over being denied his NT rights or a feud between his agent and the franchise that just signed him.

[Chinook]

I wonder if it's possible to mantain the structure of the present contract (I mean with the qualifyng offer of 1.500.000 for the second year) if the contract is switched from a guaranteed to a non guaranteed...

Yes.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I sincerely hope this is the case. While there is obviously the injury concern to deal with, I really would hate for Boban's first interaction with the Spurs to be bad blood over being denied his NT rights or a feud between his agent and the franchise that just signed him.

Yes. Definitely better if they are just playing the heavy, and not being the heavy. As long as the agent is just saving face, coaches, etc, all can remain calm backstage, and allow the masses to consume the fued/war.

Really was interested in seeing what a healthy Boban could do for The Spurs. An exciting wrinkle to an already great team.

[kobyz]

:lolWhat is it with you and curses? You a gypsy or something?

It just that i don't belive in accidental or coincidence...

[ceperez]

Yes. Definitely better if they are just playing the heavy, and not being the heavy. As long as the agent is just saving face, coaches, etc, all can remain calm backstage, and allow the masses to consume the fued/war.

Really was interested in seeing what a healthy Boban could do for The Spurs. An exciting wrinkle to an already great team.

Serbian masses want to see some heads roll for this debacle. Our MVP center can't play for the mother land because some American capitalist owns his rights???

This is certainly blow up in the news media over there in Belgrade.

I can see in now, all the op eds over in Serbia demanding that Serbian basketball players be protected from predatory NBA teams.

[Dex]

Serbian masses want to see some heads roll for this debacle. Our MVP center can't play for the mother land because some American capitalist owns his rights???

This is certainly blow up in the news media over there in Belgrade.

I can see in now, all the op eds over in Serbia demanding that Serbian basketball players be protected from predatory NBA teams.

So this is how Cold War II starts.

[lil'mo]

Let him play, fuck it. It's not worth the bad blood.

[jsandiego]

Dragan Djilas, presiden of Serbian Basketball sent a letter to RC.

http://www.kss.rs/wp-content/uploads/Letter-from-SRB-Federation-President-the-player-Boban-Marjanovic.pdf
:pop:Dear Dragan:

No. But good luck in your tournament.

Sincerely,
Coach Pop
Former USA Basketball Head Coach

[DPG21920]

This all strikes me as a little too coordinated. All the publicity and leaking of things like that letter. Looks sort of like Sebrian people might be mad that Bobi chased his dream to the USA and decided not to play for Serbia since he is injured. So in order to avoid blowback from fans toward Bobi/Serbia, they had to make a big spectacle about the decision when really, Bobi is good with it so he can heal up for his NBA debut.

[Kidd K]

They haven't said something like that. I will try to explain better what I meant by that.

Marjanovic has a bone edema. There is a 95% odd (made up number) that playing with his NT will have no consequences and there is a 5% odd that the bone edema turns into a break that will sideline Marjanovic for at least a couple of months.
- Spurs are worried about these 5% and that's why the don't allow him to play.
- Serbian NT doctors considers that it's a very low risk that doesn't necessitate Marjanovic not playing with the NT.


Well, it's debatable.
During his youth, people in Serbia have spend a lot time and money to develop him as a basketball player. One can say it creates a moral debt and that playing for the NT is a way to pay it while Marjanovic won't really be able to help Serbian basketball when he is in SA.

At the end it's a question of personal moral values that isn't limited to basketball.
For example, in a country like France, studies to be an engineer, which are expensive, are often free and are paid by the state. Is it fine that someone at the end of its studies decides to work at the silicon valley and never come back to France?

But again here's the problem: Serbian national team has NO vested interest in Boban being healthy after that's over. If he gets hurt, it doesn't matter to them. They won't need him for awhile anyway. The Spurs need him for 7 months straight. That's what they're paying for.

They may have helped train Boban but let's ask why. Could it be because he's 7'4" and they figured they could "use" him? After all they clearly don't care about his long term/yearly health as they have no vested interest in it. The Spurs on the other hand, do. I would think he's already paid his debt by now, plus him having success in the NBA on a high profile/elite team like the Spurs would do much more for Serbian basketball than losing by just 18 points per game instead of 24 in that tournament.

[Dex]

Let him play, fuck it. It's not worth the bad blood.

Are you ready for more Red Mamba time!?

[Chinook]

This all strikes me as a little too coordinated. All the publicity and leaking of things like that letter. Looks sort of like Sebrian people might be mad that Bobi chased his dream to the USA and decided not to play for Serbia since he is injured. So in order to avoid blowback from fans toward Bobi/Serbia, they had to make a big spectacle about the decision when really, Bobi is good with it so he can heal up for his NBA debut.

Thing that makes this bad is that Serbia seems to be the Spurs' current mine of interest. They have two picks stashed over there as it is. I doubt the team wants to create long-term discontent with that basketball program. They risk losing some access they seem to care about.

[DPG21920]

Spurs aren't stupid - if they didn't think they could survive this, I highly doubt they would do that. Plus, at the end of the day, the NBA is the dream and Spurs have the leverage.

But it still sounds like Spurs willing to play the bad guy role for Serbia.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Spurs aren't stupid - if they didn't think they could survive this, I highly doubt they would do that. Plus, at the end of the day, the NBA is the dream and Spurs have the leverage.

But it still sounds like Spurs willing to play the bad guy role for Serbia.

In the end, I'm just glad it all happened or wtf to talk about?! The horror.

[BillMc]

In the end, I'm just glad it all happened or wtf to talk about?! The horror.

Truth here. We have to kill the 80 days somehow. :lol

[lil'mo]

Are you ready for more Red Mamba time!?

yeah i don't give a shit

[PrimeMinister]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OP5EnaaYjQ

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This all strikes me as a little too coordinated. All the publicity and leaking of things like that letter. Looks sort of like Sebrian people might be mad that Bobi chased his dream to the USA and decided not to play for Serbia since he is injured. So in order to avoid blowback from fans toward Bobi/Serbia, they had to make a big spectacle about the decision when really, Bobi is good with it so he can heal up for his NBA debut.

Spurs mock the NBA injury list and have for years. This is very much so contrived much like them forcing Manu to not play for Arg the last couple of seasons with his own injuries.

This gives the player cover for protecting themselves. Serbs aren't exactly noted for being a levelheaded bunch so the blowback is not surprising nor particularly alarming.

[ceperez]

This all strikes me as a little too coordinated. All the publicity and leaking of things like that letter. Looks sort of like Sebrian people might be mad that Bobi chased his dream to the USA and decided not to play for Serbia since he is injured. So in order to avoid blowback from fans toward Bobi/Serbia, they had to make a big spectacle about the decision when really, Bobi is good with it so he can heal up for his NBA debut.

I guarantee it that the Serbs are going to blow this up into a major spectacle!

American predatory capitalists aren't going to get away with depriving the Serbian people of competitive basketball.

[Mamuza94]

Ceperez, please stfu.

[Axegrinder]

I guarantee it that the Serbs are going to blow this up into a major spectacle!

American predatory capitalists aren't going to get away with depriving the Serbian people of competitive basketball.Dont be ridiculous..Spurs didnt force him to sign a CONTRACT. He chose to. FIBA/NBA have rules and SPurs are following them. Spurs have Bobans long term health in mind..Serbian NT obviously dont. They wanted him to continue playing even AFTER his foot swelled up and a SERB started the whole injury "rumor" in the 1st damn place. Get the fk over it, he is a SPUR

[Lostwingman]

Serbian masses want to see some heads roll for this debacle. Our MVP center can't play for the mother land because some American capitalist owns his rights???

This is certainly blow up in the news media over there in Belgrade.

I can see in now, all the op eds over in Serbia demanding that Serbian basketball players be protected from predatory NBA teams.

I bet this is what the Chinese would have said if the Rockets protested Yao's year round joint destruction.

[ceperez]

Dont be ridiculous..Spurs didnt force him to sign a CONTRACT. He chose to. FIBA/NBA have rules and SPurs are following them. Spurs have Bobans long term health in mind..Serbian NT obviously dont. They wanted him to continue playing even AFTER his foot swelled up and a SERB started the whole injury "rumor" in the 1st damn place. Get the fk over it, he is a SPUR

I agree the Spurs are on the right side of the law here.

Just telling you how the Serbs are going to react.

[Russ]

I think everyone should chill . . .

The Serbs are just like we were a few years ago.

They still smoke and they think injuries shouldn't stop you from playing, etc. They believe in toughness.

They would shake their heads in disbelief that a coach could be fired for verbally abusing a player. Just like we would have a few years ago.

They don't get it when we say a player who could play, and play effectively, should not play because he might aggravate some injury that never stopped him from playing before.

Boban isn't on the decline because he has some chronic condition. He's getting better and better as time goes on. That's what they see.

So the Serbs look at us just like we would have looked at us a few years ago -- soft, overly sensitive and, basically, crazy.

Come to think of it, a lot of American politicians are now talking about the "pussification" of America.

Our Serbian friends have a legitimate point of view, it's just not fashionable in the modern NBA.

It's really just a time warp, that's all.

Boban will be fine. We'll love him. And he'll probably be a mainstay on the Spurs for years.

[bic50]

I agree the Spurs are on the right side of the law here.

Just telling you how the Serbs are going to react.
So the serbs dont care about bobans health?

[ceperez]

So the serbs dont care about bobans health?

No, they care more about defending Serbian basketball honor.

[ceperez]

I think everyone should chill . . .

The Serbs are just like we were a few years ago.

They still smoke and they think injuries shouldn't stop you from playing, etc. They believe in toughness.

They would shake their heads in disbelief that a coach could be fired for verbally abusing a player. Just like we would have a few years ago.

They don't get it when we say a player who could play, and play effectively, should not play because he might aggravate some injury that never stopped him from playing before.

Boban isn't on the decline because he has some chronic condition. He's getting better and better as time goes on. That's what they see.

So the Serbs look at us just like we would have looked at us a few years ago -- soft, overly sensitive and, basically, crazy.

Come to think of it, a lot of American politicians are now talking about the "pussification" of America.

Our Serbian friends have a legitimate point of view, it's just not fashionable in the modern NBA.

It's really just a time warp, that's all.

Boban will be fine. We'll love him. And he'll probably be a mainstay on the Spurs for years.

That's why it's up to Popovic to tell them how it is. It's all business and the Spurs don't give a damn about Serbian success in the Euro championships.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's why it's up to Popovic to tell them how it is. It's all business and the Spurs don't give a damn about Serbian success in the Euro championships.

What do you think the press release that caused the OP was?

[ceperez]

What do you think the press release that caused the OP was?

I missed that, what press release? I only saw an announcement from spurs, a remark from twitter by the agent and a letter from Serbian NT.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Truth here. We have to kill the 80 days somehow. :lol

Hell, it might take 80 days to figure out exactly what a bone enema is, anyway. It doesn't sound fun, whatever it is.

[playbonner15]

Are you ready for more Red Mamba time!?
Why not? More Red Mamba pls

[kobyz]

If the Serbian assistant coach didn't leaked the news of Boban being injured while playing at the end of last season Spurs would not know about it and all this wouldn't happened, is the Serbian assistant coach gonna be killed?

[ChumpDumper]

If the Serbian assistant coach didn't leaked the news of Boban being injured while playing at the end of last season Spurs would not know about it and all this wouldn't happened, is the Serbian assistant coach gonna be killed?Since his foot is swollen now, they'd probably know about it.

[kobyz]

Since his foot is swollen now, they'd probably know about it.

They brought him for a re phisical exam after he had pass the first one only because of the leaked rumor by red star assistant coach that Boban played injured the last games of the season...

[ceperez]

They brought him for a re phisical exam after he had pass the first one only because of the leaked rumor by red star assistant coach that Boban played injured the last games of the season...

So let me just guess, the European physicians covered the fact that he had a swollen foot. Where did they have that physical done? Was it in one of those countries where a lot of transactions go under the table?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

So let me just guess, the European physicians covered the fact that he had a swollen foot. Where did they have that physical done? Was it in one of those countries where a lot of transactions go under the table?

Milano, Italy, so no. Though it's strange as I'd assume the Spurs would have sent their own staff for the medical.

[Russ]

620613079907323904



If the swelling was that bad, I think the above physical exam would have picked it up.

627055049215246336

In fact, the foot the doctor is manipulating isn't even the foot with the "swelling."

[littlecoyotecoin]

620613079907323904



If the swelling was that bad, I think the above physical exam would have picked it up.

627055049215246336

In fact, the foot the doctor is manipulating isn't even the foot with the "swelling."

That son of a bitch didn't check out both feet?!

[Russ]

That son of a bitch didn't check out both feet?!

:lol

Hopefully, he did.

The point is, the photo actually gives us a better view of the foot in question.

[ceperez]

:lol

Hopefully, he did.

The point is, the photo actually gives us a better view of the foot in question.

Yeah... and it looks swollen at the ankle!

Just because his ears look funny, doesn't mean it is okay that his ankle looks funny. This is in fact what his agent is saying. He's got an unusual growth issue and it's okay if you see stuff that's not right. C'mon now!

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Boban said he played with a stress fracture in the Serbia league finals much like Manu played with one in the 2014 finals.

I am sure their is swelling in the bone as someone pointed out, this is side effect of a stress fracture, not a cause. I think Boban is totally cool not playing, it just seems like his agent is one greedy MoFo as European teams actually pay their players, especially their stars to participate in tournaments. I guess his agent wants to get his cut.

[NikosChelsea7]

http://sport.blic.rs/Kosarka/Domaca-kosarka-i-ABA/276959/EKSKLUZIVNO-Bobi-za-Blic-Hteo-sam-da-igram-za-Srbiju-nije-do-mene Unfortunately ,it is only available in Serbian.

[ceperez]

http://sport.blic.rs/Kosarka/Domaca-kosarka-i-ABA/276959/EKSKLUZIVNO-Bobi-za-Blic-Hteo-sam-da-igram-za-Srbiju-nije-do-mene

Google translation:

- I'm so sorry for everything that happened, I had a great desire and motivation to play for the national team. With impatience I waited start preparing the national team and work with the screen Djordjevic, but nothing is in my hands. From the first days of preparation there was a great atmosphere in the team, it's a fantastic group of guys that I am convinced that it will be able to achieve the desired goal and placed on the Olympics - Marjanovic says for 'Blic'.

He has conducted detailed reviews of San Antonio and it was concluded that there really any fractures.

- However, as I was told, there are islands, their worries and because they told me that I had to stand still. I got the exercises that I have to work, as well as therapy that will have to strictly abide by. I'll wear the boot over the next two weeks, and recommended me and swim - explains Bobby.
KSS is not giving up Bobby
Dragan Djilas, President of the Basketball Federation of Serbia, addressed the spars on the occasion of "Marjanovic affair".
- Recognize your medical doctors who examined Boban. However, doctors who have been following Boban and his state of health consider that the situation of his feet is identical to that of the three, two or one year. Marjanovic be unafraid to play for Serbia. I do not deny the right of San Antonio on the basis of the contract the NBA and FIBA ​​does not allow the performance of Boban for our national team, but we urge you to once again consider all the arguments on which it would play at the European Championships.
Minimum hopes to make 222 centimeters tall center could be found among the passengers on the Eurobasket, still smoldering.
- The decision does not depend on me, all this is far from San Antonio - KSS - adds Marjanovic.
A lot of dust raised due to the declaration of Velibor Radovic, assistant coach of Red Star, the final against Partizan played with a broken foot, and have occurred and the suspicion that he has scheduled medical service.

- Of course I'm not mad at anyone. I'm sure no one had a bad intention, nor is it like to have in any way harm. I was always in my life trying to be positive so I will now look ahead positively. All this happened I will be even greater motive to quality work, behavior and political parties impose a selector and how to volunteer for next summer jersey with the state coat of arms, and sincerely hope for a trip to Rio for the Olympics - do not lose hope the new center of San Antony.

Marjanovic said that the phenomenal welcome by all people from the famous NBA club.

- Wished me welcome and I must emphasize that the organization of the club on a perfect level. City I really liked the people are very friendly. I was particularly fascinated by the hall, especially when I walked into the locker room and saw a place with my name. All of this seemed a little unbelievable - said Bobi to end the conversation.

[Dancelot]

http://sport.blic.rs/Kosarka/Domaca-kosarka-i-ABA/276959/EKSKLUZIVNO-Bobi-za-Blic-Hteo-sam-da-igram-za-Srbiju-nije-do-mene Unfortunately ,it is only available in Serbian.
I don't speak jibber jabba.

[NikosChelsea7]

:boboThank you for the translation.

[MVPCues]

He is saying the right things at least.

[dweaver99027]

Maybe he didn't want to play for the NT this summer anyway, but couldn't let himself disappoint his countrymen either. This foot thing could be the perfect excuse with the Spurs agreeing to take the heat instead of him.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Maybe he didn't want to play for the NT this summer anyway, but couldn't let himself disappoint his countrymen either. This foot thing could be the perfect excuse with the Spurs agreeing to take the heat instead of him.

I think he wants to play. But he is a smart guy as well. That is why he chose the Spurs because they manage players minutes and prolong their careers. He would literally being getting off on the wrong foot by playing with a stress fracture at this point.

I think he wants a long NBA career and knows the Spurs, if any NBA team, can develop him. It seems like that is where is priorities lie right now. His agent seems to be the one thinking otherwise.

[024]

Really tall players are such a tease. They dominate when they are healthy for a short period and get everyone excited. Then they get injured and are never heard from again. Hope that doesn't happen with Boban.

[dweaver99027]

I think he wants to play. But he is a smart guy as well. That is why he chose the Spurs because they manage players minutes and prolong their careers. He would literally being getting off on the wrong foot by playing with a stress fracture at this point. I think he wants a long NBA career and knows the Spurs, if any NBA team, can develop him. It seems like that is where is priorities lie right now. His agent seems to be the one thinking otherwise. If Boban is in on it, so is his agent. Someone has to deflect the rage towards the Spurs, and it can't be Boban or just the Serbian federation.

[Obstructed_View]

At least the players know they're playing for a guy who puts his money where his mouth is. Pop wouldn't risk a player's career to win a playoff game, so when he tells them not to play, he's not just blowing smoke for his own reasons.

[GSH]

Clearly you know far more about it than I do. Even if it's what I mentioned, which seems pretty serious, it's far less serious than what you outlined above. Seems pretty clear that playing is an unreasonable risk.

Shifting gears a bit, we've heard the song his agent is singing before. You get a guy who can't play, a rabid fan base who wants to win at all costs, so the Spurs step in and happily play the part of the bad guy, allowing everyone else to save face and the player to heal up.

I don't know much about the NBA anymore, and I'm the first to admit it. I do know more than a little bit about stress injury. They don't turn into full-fledged broken bones - at least not often, and not right away. What they do turn into is extremely painful, and even debilitating conditions. If not allowed to heal, they can turn into chronic, long-term problems. (Yeah, yeah, a weakened bone can break easier. But usually the person has been hurting and taking days off long before it gets to that point.)

The biggest problem with athletes and stress injury is that they are accustomed to playing through pain. And all the good ones are such competitors that they don't want to let "a little pain" stop them from competing. They have started referring to stress injuries a lot more as "over-use injuries". That sort of helps it sink in that they absolutely have to quit using it for a while, to let it heal.

Bones get tiny little fissures, called micro-fractures. The body's response is swelling, which is all edema means. The bone will regenerate, if given the chance. If you keep aggravating it, the body will "patch" the bone with stuff that isn't as good. That's when the condition becomes chronic, because the patch is permanent. A similar thing happens with ligaments, which is what has happened with Tim (and I think Manu).

They aren't in danger of the bone breaking, like a racehorse. So technically they are "fine to play". But as long as you keep pounding a stress injury, it won't heal properly. There's no substitute for rest. That's the simplified version, but it will do. I know people like to give shit here, more than talk about basketball. But I what I said is correct, as far as it goes. If he really has substantial bone edema, there is an underlying injury.

[Dex]

I don't know much about the NBA anymore, and I'm the first to admit it. I do know more than a little bit about stress injury. They don't turn into full-fledged broken bones - at least not often, and not right away. What they do turn into is extremely painful, and even debilitating conditions. If not allowed to heal, they can turn into chronic, long-term problems. (Yeah, yeah, a weakened bone can break easier. But usually the person has been hurting and taking days off long before it gets to that point.)

The biggest problem with athletes and stress injury is that they are accustomed to playing through pain. And all the good ones are such competitors that they don't want to let "a little pain" stop them from competing. They have started referring to stress injuries a lot more as "over-use injuries". That sort of helps it sink in that they absolutely have to quit using it for a while, to let it heal.

Bones get tiny little fissures, called micro-fractures. The body's response is swelling, which is all edema means. The bone will regenerate, if given the chance. If you keep aggravating it, the body will "patch" the bone with stuff that isn't as good. That's when the condition becomes chronic, because the patch is permanent. A similar thing happens with ligaments, which is what has happened with Tim (and I think Manu).

They aren't in danger of the bone breaking, like a racehorse. So technically they are "fine to play". But as long as you keep pounding a stress injury, it won't heal properly. There's no substitute for rest. That's the simplified version, but it will do. I know people like to give shit here, more than talk about basketball. But I what I said is correct, as far as it goes. If he really has substantial bone edema, there is an underlying injury.

Dr. GSH dropping truth bombs over here.

Just because he CAN play on it, doesn't mean it is healthy to play on it. That's what the Serbian NT and president seem to be ignoring here.

[Obstructed_View]

Dr. GSH dropping truth bombs over here.

Just because he CAN play on it, doesn't mean it is healthy to play on it. That's what the Serbian NT and president seem to be ignoring here.

True on both points. It's something the Spurs rarely ignore.

[snickles]

thanks for clearing that up. i'd never heard the term edema before. and quite frankly, i was too lazy to google it.


I don't know much about the NBA anymore, and I'm the first to admit it. I do know more than a little bit about stress injury. They don't turn into full-fledged broken bones - at least not often, and not right away. What they do turn into is extremely painful, and even debilitating conditions. If not allowed to heal, they can turn into chronic, long-term problems. (Yeah, yeah, a weakened bone can break easier. But usually the person has been hurting and taking days off long before it gets to that point.)

The biggest problem with athletes and stress injury is that they are accustomed to playing through pain. And all the good ones are such competitors that they don't want to let "a little pain" stop them from competing. They have started referring to stress injuries a lot more as "over-use injuries". That sort of helps it sink in that they absolutely have to quit using it for a while, to let it heal.

Bones get tiny little fissures, called micro-fractures. The body's response is swelling, which is all edema means. The bone will regenerate, if given the chance. If you keep aggravating it, the body will "patch" the bone with stuff that isn't as good. That's when the condition becomes chronic, because the patch is permanent. A similar thing happens with ligaments, which is what has happened with Tim (and I think Manu).

They aren't in danger of the bone breaking, like a racehorse. So technically they are "fine to play". But as long as you keep pounding a stress injury, it won't heal properly. There's no substitute for rest. That's the simplified version, but it will do. I know people like to give shit here, more than talk about basketball. But I what I said is correct, as far as it goes. If he really has substantial bone edema, there is an underlying injury.

[BillMc]

I don't know much about the NBA anymore, and I'm the first to admit it. I do know more than a little bit about stress injury. They don't turn into full-fledged broken bones - at least not often, and not right away. What they do turn into is extremely painful, and even debilitating conditions. If not allowed to heal, they can turn into chronic, long-term problems. (Yeah, yeah, a weakened bone can break easier. But usually the person has been hurting and taking days off long before it gets to that point.)

The biggest problem with athletes and stress injury is that they are accustomed to playing through pain. And all the good ones are such competitors that they don't want to let "a little pain" stop them from competing. They have started referring to stress injuries a lot more as "over-use injuries". That sort of helps it sink in that they absolutely have to quit using it for a while, to let it heal.

Bones get tiny little fissures, called micro-fractures. The body's response is swelling, which is all edema means. The bone will regenerate, if given the chance. If you keep aggravating it, the body will "patch" the bone with stuff that isn't as good. That's when the condition becomes chronic, because the patch is permanent. A similar thing happens with ligaments, which is what has happened with Tim (and I think Manu).

They aren't in danger of the bone breaking, like a racehorse. So technically they are "fine to play". But as long as you keep pounding a stress injury, it won't heal properly. There's no substitute for rest. That's the simplified version, but it will do. I know people like to give shit here, more than talk about basketball. But I what I said is correct, as far as it goes. If he really has substantial bone edema, there is an underlying injury.

Really informal take. Many thanks. :toast

[dweaver99027]

Yup, good post. Edema basically means 'swelling', and swelling anywhere deep below the skin is never a good sign.

[SpursFan86]

http://projectspurs.com/2015-articles/marjanovic-says-he-wanted-to-play-for-serbia-but-ultimate-decision-was-up-to-spurs.html

He seems to be handling the decision fine. Obviously he'll be disappointed, but he doesn't seem to be holding a grudge against the organization.

[BackHome]

You have to wonder what type of career Grant Hill would have had has he been a Spur?

[BillMc]

You have to wonder what type of career Grant Hill would have had has he been a Spur?

PATFO tried to get Hill numerous times when he was a FA in the latter half of his career. He always signed elsewhere. He'd probably have a ring if he were with us, but the major damage to his body was done at the end of his Detroit reign and in Orlando. By the time he was available to even realistically be a Spur nothing Pop and the medical staff could have done would have changed his career much.

[Ice009]

PATFO tried to get Hill numerous times when he was a FA in the latter half of his career. He always signed elsewhere. He'd probably have a ring if he were with us, but the major damage to his body was done at the end of his Detroit reign and in Orlando. By the time he was available to even realistically be a Spur nothing Pop and the medical staff could have done would have changed his career much.

I think he means if Grant Hill was a Spur instead of even having ever played for Detroit.

[Obstructed_View]

You have to wonder what type of career Grant Hill would have had has he been a Spur?

He'd probably have retired with about 35 thousand points.