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Will Hunting
08-08-2015, 09:03 AM
Serious question. Slick Willy did nothing but ship jobs that black families had relied on overseas, while he ramped up the war on drugs and broken windows style policing. Nevertheless, people jokingly refer to him as "America's first black president!", while he and his wife are wildly popular with black people.

Clipper Nation
08-08-2015, 10:03 AM
Because Bill is a Democrat, charismatic, and pandered to them. It's the same reason why so many Republicans love Reagan so much when he tripled the debt, spent more than Carter, signed off on TEFRA (a historically large tax increase), etc.

Will Hunting
08-08-2015, 10:47 AM
Because Bill is a Democrat, charismatic, and pandered to them. It's the same reason why so many Republicans love Reagan so much when he tripled the debt, spent more than Carter, signed off on TEFRA (a historically large tax increase), etc.

I agree on the charismatic Democrat part, but did he really ever pander to them? It seems like Bill Clinton being friendly to black people was a narrative the MSM just created out of thin air which resulted in him getting credit for not really doing anything.

Mamuza94
08-08-2015, 11:05 AM
I had to post this. When someone say Clinton, first thing that pass through my head is this video.

"You can blow us, Clinton" :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vus3vRmACNQ

That was during the NATO bombing of Serbia, 1999.

BTW. I hope that no one will found this offensive. I posted this just for fun. :)

Will Hunting
08-08-2015, 11:08 AM
A few specific examples of Clinton's supposed "pro black people" policies:



Slashed federal spending for public housing by $17B and increased federal spending for correctional facilities by $19B
Increased the federal incarceration rate from 25 per 100k people to 42 per 100k people (this increase is at a rate higher than Reagan or Bush Sr.)
Increased the federal prison population by 673k

Splits
08-08-2015, 11:22 AM
The real question is, why do Repubs like Shillary so much?



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Nbadan
08-10-2015, 04:33 AM
'Slick Willie' did a lot to help poor working families...

Lowest Poverty Rate in Two Decades. The poverty rate has fallen from 15.1 percent in 1993 to 12.7 percent in 1998. That's the lowest poverty rate since 1979 and the largest five-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years (1965-1970). The African-American poverty rate has dropped from 33.1 percent in 1993 to 26.1 percent in 1998 -- the lowest level ever recorded and the largest five-year drop in African-American poverty in more than a quarter century (1967-1972). The poverty rate for Hispanics is at the lowest level since 1979, and dropped to 25.6 percent in 1998.

Largest Five-Year Drop in Child Poverty Rate Since the ‘60s. Under President Clinton and Vice President Gore, child poverty has declined from 22.7 percent in 1993 to 18.9 percent in 1998 -- the biggest five-year drop in nearly 30 years. The poverty rate for African-American children has fallen from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 36.7 percent in 1998 -- a level that is still too high, but is the lowest level in 20 years and the biggest five-year drop on record. The rate also fell for Hispanic children, from 36.8 percent to 34.4 percent - and is now 6.5 percentage points lower than it was in 1993.

ax Cuts for Working Families. 15 million additional working families received additional tax relief because of the President’s expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit. In 1998, the EITC lifted 4.3 million people out of poverty - double the number lifted out of poverty by the EITC in 1993. This year, the President proposed expanding the EITC to provide tax relief to an additional 6.8 million hard-pressed working families.

Helping Parents Balance Work and Family. The Family and Medical Leave Act allows workers to take up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave to care for seriously ill family members, new born or adoptive children, or their own serious health problems without fear of losing their jobs. Nearly 91 million workers (71% of the labor force) are covered by the Family and Medical Leave Act and millions of workers have benefited from FMLA since its enactment. President Clinton has proposed expanding FMLA to allow workers to take up to 24 unpaid hours off each year for school and early childhood education activities, routine family medical care, and caring for an elderly relative.

Improved Access to Affordable, Quality Child Care and Early Childhood Programs. Under the Clinton-Gore Administration, federal funding for child care has more than doubled, helping parents pay for the care of about 1.5 million children in 1998, and the1996 welfare reform law increased child care funding by $4 billion over six years to provide child care assistance to families moving from welfare to work. Since 1993, the Clinton-Gore Administration has increased funding for the Head Start program by 90 percent, and in FY 2000, the program will serve approximately 880,000 children - over 160,000 more children than in 1993.

Increased the Minimum Wage. The minimum wage has risen from $4.25 to $5.15 per hour, increasing wages for 10 million workers. The President and Vice President have called for an additional increase to $6.15.

Enacted the Workforce Investment Act. The Workforce Investment Act reformed the nation’s employment and training system so that it works better for today's workers. The WIA empowered individuals by giving adults more control and choice over their training or retraining and providing universal access to core labor market services; streamlined job training services by consolidating a tangle of individual programs into a simple system and creating a nationwide network of One-Stop Career Centers; enhanced accountability through tough performance standards for states, localities, and training providers; and increased flexibility so that states can innovate and experiment with new ways to train America's workers better.

Signed the Landmark Work Incentives Improvement Act. Americans with disabilities often become ineligible for Medicaid or Medicare if they work, forcing a choice between health care and employment. The Work Incentives Improvement Act keeps people with disabilities from losing their Medicare or Medicaid health coverage when they go to work. It also includes a $250 million demonstration, which the President insisted on fully funding, that allows people with disabilities who are still working and are not yet sufficiently disabled to qualify for Medicaid to buy into the program.

Signed the Adoption and Safe Families Act. The Adoption and Safe Families Act, which was based in large part on the recommendations of the Clinton-Gore Administration's Adoption 2002 report, made sweeping changes in adoption law so that thousands of children in foster care move more quickly into safe and permanent homes. In 1998, 36,000 children in foster care were adopted, up from 28,000 in 1996. This is the first significant increase in adoption since the national foster care program was established nearly 20 years ago.

Enacted the Foster Care Independence Act. Nearly 20,000 young people leave foster care each year when they reach age 18 without an adoptive family or other guardian. The Foster Care Independence Act will ensure that those young people will get the tools they need to make the most of their lives by providing them better educational opportunities, access to health care, training, housing assistance, counseling, and other services.

Putting Families First. The President and Vice President developed and implemented first-ever plan to protect our children from tobacco and end tobacco marketing targeted to young people. They also required the installation of V-chips in all new televisions, and encouraged schools to adopt school uniform policies to deter school violence and promote discipline.

Supporting Community Service. In just five years, AmeriCorps has allowed 150,000 young people to serve in their communities while earning money for college or skills training.

President's One America Initiative. President Clinton has led the nation in an effort to become One America: a place where we respect others’ differences and embrace the common values that unite us. The President has been actively involved in public outreach efforts to engage Americans in this historic effort, and followed up on the work of the Initiative on Race by appointing Robert B. (Ben) Johnson as Assistant to the President and Director of the new White House Office on the President’s Initiative for One America. The office is working to ensure that we have a coordinated strategy to close the opportunity gaps that exist for minorities and the underserved in this country, and build the One America we want for all of our nation’s children. The President’s FY 2001 budget includes $5 million for One America dialogues to promote and facilitate discussions on racial diversity and understanding. President Clinton has appointed the most diverse Cabinet and White House staff in history, presiding over an Administration that looks like America. Welcoming New Americans. Since 1993, the United States has welcomed 4.4 million new American citizens. Faced with this unprecedented number of applications, the Administration undertook an initiative that has significantly reduced the backlog of citizenship applications and is restoring timely processing. Furthermore, the Administration’s English as a Second Language/Civics Education Initiative will provide limited English speaking adults with instruction in both English literacy and critical life skills necessary for effective citizenship and civic participation.

Providing Fairness for Legal Immigrants. The President believes that legal immigrants should have the same economic opportunity and bear the same responsibility as other members of society. In 1997 and 1998, the President fought for and succeeded in restoring disability, health and nutritional benefits for certain legal immigrants, and he will continue to press for additional restorations.

Encouraging Investment in Underserved Communities with the New Markets Initiative. President Clinton's New Markets Initiative is helping to bring economic development and renewal to communities that have not benefited from the soaring economy. The President's New Markets Tour of underserved communities generated nearly $1 billion in private sector investment commitments. On his second New Markets trip, the President highlighted the role that universities, professional sports franchises, and agricultural cooperatives can play in bringing jobs and economic development to underserved communities. During the trip the President announced partnerships worth a total of nearly $200 million of dollars to underserved communities.

Providing Incentives to Save. President Clinton signed legislation creating Individual Development Accounts, providing incentives for low-income families to save for a first home, higher education, or to start a new business, a key part of his 1992 community empowerment agenda. In FY 1999, $10 million was awarded to establish savings accounts for over 10,000 low-income workers in 40 communities, and an additional $10 million will be awarded in FY 2000. The President’s budget provides $25 million for IDAs in FY 2001 and proposes to allow low-income working families to use IDAs to save for a car that will allow them to get or keep a job.

boutons_deux
08-10-2015, 06:28 AM
Clinton's big screw jobs were the redoing of welfare laws (helped a little at first but ultimately failed) and the prison sentencing law, which of course his blacks and browns the hardest, as intended. Keep the non-Euro-Americans oppressed, locked up, and dead (in bullshit wars and freely available guns)

Clipper Nation
08-10-2015, 08:39 AM
Clinton's big screw jobs were the redoing of welfare laws (helped a little at first but ultimately failed) and the prison sentencing law, which of course his blacks and browns the hardest, as intended. Keep the non-Euro-Americans oppressed, locked up, and dead (in bullshit wars and freely available guns)
You're right, Democrats are really racist. Not a surprise, though, they were the party of the KKK, slavery, and Jim Crow for a century.

Blizzardwizard
08-10-2015, 08:56 AM
You're right, Democrats are really racist. Not a surprise, though, they were the party of the KKK, slavery, and Jim Crow for a century.

Playing the "but but they were racist 100 years ago :cry " card :lol

I don't see anything other than old white senile candidates for the Libertarians these days, usually funded by BigCorp, like David Koch.

pgardn
08-10-2015, 09:11 AM
The slick liar actually got people OFF welfare and to work. The Republicans shoved him in this direction and it worked. This should be an example of what two parties working together can get done.

DarrinS
08-10-2015, 09:41 AM
The slick liar actually got people OFF welfare and to work. The Republicans shoved him in this direction and it worked. This should be an example of what two parties working together can get done.

Yep

boutons_deux
08-10-2015, 09:47 AM
The slick liar actually got people OFF welfare and to work. The Republicans shoved him in this direction and it worked. This should be an example of what two parties working together can get done.

it initially worked some, but eventually it failed and simply screwed poor people, you know, the Welfare Queens Driving Cadillacs (which is just another Repug LIE to screw poor people)

pgardn
08-10-2015, 10:21 AM
it initially worked some, but eventually it failed and simply screwed poor people, you know, the Welfare Queens Driving Cadillacs (which is just another Repug LIE to screw poor people)

So why did it initially work do you think?

boutons_deux
08-10-2015, 10:34 AM
So why did it initially work do you think?

I dunno, that was nearly 20 years ago.

How Welfare Reform Failed Families In Poverty In Two Charts


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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/08/08/659221/welfare-failed-great-recession/

Repugs "welfare reform" is really "cut the welfare net to screw the poor, because they are morally bad (they're poor because God is unhappy with them) and living cushy lives on welfare".

I read somewhere that the 1% told Repugs that any taxes they pay are NOT to pay into the safety net.

The whole VRWC idea is for the Repugs to cut $10Bs out of the safety net while cutting $100Bs from BigCorp/1% taxes.

Repugs are also going after school lunches and poor kids health insurance.