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Cry Havoc
08-12-2015, 11:40 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/12/a-new-poll-out-of-new-hampshire-has-bernie-sanders-ahead-of-hillary-clinton/

A new poll shows Bernie Sanders with an apparent lead over Hillary Rodham Clinton among likely Democratic voters in New Hampshire, adding to his momentum in the nation’s first presidential primary state.

Sanders, the independent senator from neighboring Vermont, tops Clinton, the former secretary of state, 44 percent to 37 percent, in the new Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald poll.

The survey, taken Aug. 7-10, has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.7 percent, meaning Sanders’s lead is not considered statistically significant by pollsters.

[100,000 people have come to recent Bernie Sanders rallies. How does he do it?]

Clinton has maintained a modest edge in other recent polls from the Granite State, including a WMUR Granite State poll last last month that had her up by 6 percentage points among likely Democratic primary voters.

Still, the latest survey reflects a surge by Sanders this summer that has turned the Democratic race into more of a contest than almost anyone expected.

Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist who has been drawing huge crowds around the country, is running strongest in New Hampshire, where he started the race better known because of his long representation of Vermont.

[In Bernie Sanders, an unlikely — but real — threat to Hillary Clinton]

Clinton maintains leads of more than 25 percentage points in recent polls from Iowa, the nation’s first caucus state, while her lead nationally has average about 35 points, according to surveys tracked by Real Clear Politics.

In the new poll out of New Hampshire, Vice President Biden, who has not said whether he’s running, got 9 percent. The other announced Democrats in the race -- former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley, former Rhode Island governor and senator Lincoln Chafee and former Virginia senator Jim Webb -- received 1 percent or below.

CosmicCowboy
08-12-2015, 11:44 AM
The email shit is beginning to stick.

57% find Hillary untrustworthy in the latest CNN poll.

Cry Havoc
08-12-2015, 11:46 AM
The email shit is beginning to stick.

57% find Hillary untrustworthy in the latest CNN poll.

She's (almost) as bad as the GOP clown car!

boutons_deux
08-12-2015, 11:47 AM
The email shit is beginning to stick.

57% find Hillary untrustworthy in the latest CNN poll.

the Repug repeated lies, slander, propaganda, fabricated outrage are effective. Repugs create a false reality and you rightwingnuts fall for it every time.

CosmicCowboy
08-12-2015, 12:03 PM
the Repug repeated lies, slander, propaganda, fabricated outrage are effective. Repugs create a false reality and you rightwingnuts fall for it every time.

:lmao

It's not Republicans investigating her for not protecting classified information.

Cry Havoc
08-12-2015, 12:03 PM
the Repug repeated lies, slander, propaganda, fabricated outrage are effective. Repugs create a false reality and you rightwingnuts fall for it every time.

Hillary admitted that she fucked up. It's obviously being completely overblown by the GOP, but she definitely went way overboard with her authority. I think given how much of a hawk she is, I have some pretty strong reservations about her getting the nomination.

Cry Havoc
08-12-2015, 12:03 PM
:lmao

It's not Republicans investigating her for not protecting classified information.

What's your opinion on Chris Christie?

in2deep
08-12-2015, 12:08 PM
She's (almost) as bad as the GOP clown car!

she's worse

CosmicCowboy
08-12-2015, 12:09 PM
What's your opinion on Chris Christie?

Unelectable.

SpursforSix
08-12-2015, 12:11 PM
At this point, I'd like to see a Fiorina/Carson ticket. Doesn't' matter which is P or VP. 2 smart non-politicians. Would be tough for any Democrat to beat.

baseline bum
08-12-2015, 12:14 PM
Unelectable.

Yeah, you can't get elected as a fat fuck.

in2deep
08-12-2015, 12:15 PM
Yeah, you can't get elected as a fat fuck.

https://hechoenlasamericas.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/hugo-chavez-chavez-the-hut.jpg

baseline bum
08-12-2015, 12:18 PM
At this point, I'd like to see a Fiorina/Carson ticket. Doesn't' matter which is P or VP. 2 smart non-politicians. Would be tough for any Democrat to beat.

Fiorina smart? The dumb bitch thought acquiring Compaq was a good idea and she killed the value of HP when she was CEO. I guess she was smart enough to negotiate a nice golden parachute on the way out though.

baseline bum
08-12-2015, 12:20 PM
Sanders is completely unelectable in this country. I'd like to say Clinton would be too, but she's exactly the kind of piece of shit who can get elected president in this nation.

Blizzardwizard
08-12-2015, 12:21 PM
But but I thought Bernie Sanders had torpedoed his own campaign :cry?

Clipper Nation
08-12-2015, 12:28 PM
:lol Det margin of error

Congrats on a statistically-insignificant "lead" in one poll in the state next door to Bernie's home state, though :tu

SpursforSix
08-12-2015, 12:30 PM
Fiorina smart? The dumb bitch thought acquiring Compaq was a good idea and she killed the value of HP when she was CEO. I guess she was smart enough to negotiate a nice golden parachute on the way out though.

She's damn smart. She was CEO in a high risk business at a high risk time.

baseline bum
08-12-2015, 12:35 PM
She's damn smart. She was CEO in a high risk business at a high risk time.

Was there ever any point at which you thought Compaq meant anything other than really shitty computer?

DarrinS
08-12-2015, 12:40 PM
Damn, when Biden jumps in, this field is going to look like the cast of Cocoon.

SpursforSix
08-12-2015, 12:50 PM
Was there ever any point at which you thought Compaq meant anything other than really shitty computer?

Yes, for the brief time between between purchasing and hooking one up in 1997.

Cry Havoc
08-12-2015, 12:56 PM
Was there ever any point at which you thought Compaq meant anything other than really shitty computer?

Seriously. Even at the end of their life, when Compaq started making "decent" quality stuff (relative to the other manufacturers you could buy at a big box), it was really hard to recommend them even if they were cheaper than everyone else.

Blizzardwizard
08-12-2015, 01:08 PM
:lol Det margin of error

Congrats on a statistically-insignificant "lead" in one poll in the state next door to Bernie's home state, though :tu

I'm sure if the poll gave Hillary the lead you wouldn't be pointing out margin of error but would say it's just another example of Sanders torpedoing his own campaign.

Clipper Nation
08-12-2015, 01:27 PM
I'm sure if the poll gave Hillary the lead you wouldn't be pointing out margin of error but would say it's just another example of Sanders torpedoing his own campaign.
Pretty sure Hillary's 30+ point national lead over the old faggot is very statistically significant.

Cry Havoc
08-12-2015, 04:01 PM
Pretty sure Hillary's 30+ point national lead over the old faggot is very statistically significant.

It was pretty significant in 2008, too.

boutons_deux
08-12-2015, 04:14 PM
In 2008, BHO can't possibly beat HRC.

CosmicCowboy
08-12-2015, 04:45 PM
In 2008, BHO can't possibly beat HRC.

huh?

boutons_deux
08-12-2015, 04:50 PM
huh?

... is what was being said back then.

Clipper Nation
08-12-2015, 05:47 PM
In 2008, BHO can't possibly beat HRC.
Obummer was being touted as the future of the party in 2004, and his 2008 campaign pulled in a record $750 million in funding. The joke that is Bernie's campaign is nothing in comparison.

boutons_deux
08-12-2015, 06:59 PM
Obummer was being touted as the future of the party in 2004, and his 2008
campaign pulled in a record $750 million in funding. The joke that is Bernie's campaign is nothing in comparison.

BHO was WAY BEHIND HRC, who looked unbeatable nearly all year, until Sep 2008.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html

Will Hunting
08-12-2015, 07:39 PM
At this point, I'd like to see a Fiorina/Carson ticket. Doesn't' matter which is P or VP. 2 smart non-politicians. Would be tough for any Democrat to beat.

:lol how is Ben Carson smart? He legitimately thought Alan Greenspan was treasury secretary during the debate last week. I'd prefer a president who knows the difference between treasury secretary and federal reserve chairman.

SpursforSix
08-12-2015, 08:18 PM
:lol how is Ben Carson smart? He legitimately thought Alan Greenspan was treasury secretary during the debate last week. I'd prefer a president who knows the difference between treasury secretary and federal reserve chairman.

Ok. Maybe he's dumb. I'd rather have him than most of the others though.

Cry Havoc
08-12-2015, 08:19 PM
Ok. Maybe he's dumb. I'd rather have him than most of the others though.

That's a mighty terrible packbedal there.

SpursforSix
08-12-2015, 08:22 PM
That's a mighty terrible packbedal there.

I really didn't think I needed to defend a neurosurgeon's brain power.

Cry Havoc
08-12-2015, 09:21 PM
I really didn't think I needed to defend a neurosurgeon's brain power.

I know tons of doctors who are complete idiots when it comes to anything non-medical. It's a ridiculous notion that being accomplished in a single field suddenly makes you an expert in everything. That kind of hubris is exactly why he'd be a terrible pick.

boutons_deux
08-12-2015, 09:26 PM
I really didn't think I needed to defend a neurosurgeon's brain power.

he's stupid as shit

1) On whether being gay is a choice (http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/04/politics/ben-carson-prisons-gay-choice/): "Because a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight—and when they come out, they're gay. So, did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question."

2) On political correctness (http://www.breitbart.com/video/2014/03/12/exclusive-dr-ben-carson-our-government-is-like-nazi-germany/): "I mean, [our society is] very much like Nazi Germany. And I know you're not supposed to say 'Nazi Germany,' but I don't care about political correctness. You know, you had a government using its tools to intimidate the population. We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe."

3) On the IRS (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ben-carson-targeted-irs/2014/02/10/id/552027/): "You know, we live in a Gestapo age, people don't realize it."

4) On Advanced Placement history class (http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/09/29/foxs-ben-carson-ap-history-curriculum-would-mak/200933): "I think most people, when they finish that course, they'd be ready to go sign up for ISIS."

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5) On veterans dying waiting for medical care from the Department of Veterans Affairs (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/tea-party-favorite-dr-ben-carson-calls-veteran-affairs-waiting-list-scandal-a-gift-from-god/): "I think what's happening with the veterans is a gift from God to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider. And if we can't get it right, with the relatively small number of veterans, how in the world are you going to do it with the entire population?"


6) On Obamacare (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dr-ben-carson-calls-obamacare-worst-thing-since-slavery-at-values-voter-summit/): "You know, Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. And it is, in a way—it is slavery in a way because it is making all of us subservient to the government."

7) On Obama's appearance (http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201504/ben-carson-tea-party?currentPage=1): When a colleague said the president "looks clean. Shirt's white. The tie. He looks elegant," Carson responded: "Like most psychopaths. That's why they're successful. That's the way they look. They all look great." He later said: "But he knows he's telling a lie! He's trying to sell what he thinks is not true! He's sitting there saying, 'These Americans are so stupid I can tell them anything.'"

8) On similarities (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/ben-carson-to-the-gop-establishment-i-m-not-crazy-20150115) between the Founding Fathers, who were "willing to die for what they believed," and ISIS: "They've [ISIS] got the wrong philosophy, but they're willing to die for what they believe, while we're busily giving away every value and every belief for the sake of political correctness."

9) On the importance of the GOP winning the Senate in 2014 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/hes-already-a-famous-surgeon-and-author-so-why-is-ben-carson-toying-with-a-longshot-presidential-bid/2014/08/28/dc183400-2e5e-11e4-994d-202962a9150c_story.html): In August, Carson said he couldn't be sure "there will even be an election in 2016" if Republicans didn't go on to win that fall. (His wife also said they were keeping their son's Australian passport handy if the election didn't go their way.)

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2016-elections/ben-carson-2016-controversial-quotes-20150504

Splits
08-12-2015, 09:27 PM
BHO was WAY BEHIND HRC, who looked unbeatable nearly all year, until Sep 2008.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html

Thanks for the link.

So at this time in 2007, HRC was up on BHO 49-21. Yet this time around she is a shoe-in for the nomination? Retards like CN have zero intellectual consistency.

I hope this email thing totally fucks her over. Do not want her anywhere near the WH considering her hawkish, warmongering foreign policy and blanket free pass to Israel no matter how bad their infanticide gets.

m>s
08-12-2015, 11:16 PM
Bernie sanders is a false prophet to you leftists. Israel just does what they have to do, I applaud them in ways. Every time I see a sandn!gger or a rag on someone's head I just see red. They are the enemies of western civilization.