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MaNuMaNiAc
09-14-2005, 03:40 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jay_mohr/09/14/mohr.sports/index.html

I don't love this game

Despite NBA, networks' effort, WNBA is unwatchable


The WNBA finals begin Wednesday, and if you listen very closely you'll be able to hear that nobody cares. Apparently, the Sacramento Monarchs are playing the Connecticut Sun in a best-of-whatever series. The Monarchs earned their way into the finals by beating the Houston Comets. The Sun got in because they're owned and operated by a casino. Seriously, a casino owns the team. No conflict of interest there, right? I guess the NBA and whoever else desperately backs this debacle of a league finally found themselves an ownership group that can actually afford to hemorrhage cash.

Now, let me admit that all of these women ballers are far better athletes than I will ever be. That doesn't forgive the fact that the product is still unwatchable. Playing with a multi-colored ball that looks as if was stolen from Meadowlark Lemon's trunk, these women are capable of putting up 40, sometimes 50, points a night. I went to a New York Liberty game a couple of years ago and found myself, for the first time, in the minority at a sporting event. As my buddy and I sat courtside with other celebrities like, uh, um, well, I'm sure there was somebody else, we realized what a bizarre collection of souls made up the lower tier of the arena. Little girls and lumberjacks seemed to be the primary ticket holders. The little girls looked at the court in admiration of their heroes, and the lumberjacks looked at the court in a completely different type of admiration. Other than my buddy, I was the only guy in my row, so I was hesitant to stand up and move around. I was afraid of offending the brutes surrounding me. These people were large and in charge, loud and proud, and very capable of beating me to within an inch of my life.

Not feeling that uncomfortable since the "gangbangers versus non-gangbangers" era of the Raiders, I made sure to root for the home team, and root I did. When the giants next to me stood up to cheer, I stood up and cheered. When they booed, I booed. I didn't want them to think I was an outsider.

Sadly, when it comes to the WNBA, almost all of us are outsiders. Do you know anybody who has ever watched a game? Have you ever spoken about the WNBA at work? At home? Anywhere? The NBA and the networks that have aired the sport have tried in vain for far too long to prop up this league as entertainment. If you are entertained by 7-foot, 225-pound women from Poland who have less basketball skills than the worst NBA D-Leaguer then I guess you are one of the few people who cares.



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There are only 13 teams in the WNBA, but for some reason league and network executives refuse to admit failure. They want you to believe that this is the ideal number for competitiveness and not the result of entire cities saying, "Why would people go to these games?" The WNBA has been propped up more than JFK during bouts of Addison's disease and all with a great big "You're gonna love it!" smile. Well, we don't love it. The fact that it only costs a hundred bucks to sit on the floor should clue you in that something is wrong. When I was at my one and only WNBA game the two women next to me, in matching flannel shirts and motorcycle boots, told me they got their courtside seats by winning first place in a contest. I immediately wondered if second place was four tickets. If I am ever forced to attend another of these games, I'll insist on sitting in the nose bleed seats. At least from up high I could avoid the icy stares from my fellow "fans", get loaded, squint real hard and imagine the people down on the floor were men.

* The opinions of Jay Mohr do not reflect those of SI.com, just the men who read it.

Five things I think Peter King should have thought he thunk

1. I think Javon Walker wouldn't have injured his knee if he had been stretching and practicing with his team all summer.

2. I think it is time for New Yorkers to stop expecting Chad Pennington to be Joe Namath. Pennington is simply an above average NFL quarterback

3. I think that Eli Manning is getting a bit of a free ride, especially in comparison to the beatings Pennington takes in the press.

4. I think I prefer the ESPN Sunday night crew to Madden and Michaels on Monday night. A lot less babbling and a lot more data and strategy.

5. I think a Venti Starbucks black coffee, no matter where you go, is always hot and delicious. Stop fooling around with the other drinks.

MaNuMaNiAc
09-14-2005, 03:42 PM
I didn't even know Jay Mohr wrote for SI! thats interesting. About the article, I have to agree. I don't konw what it is, but I just can't find women basketball entertaining. It just isn't.

TOP-CHERRY
09-14-2005, 03:43 PM
It's boring.

lil'mo
09-14-2005, 03:48 PM
they should make the wnba into a non-professional league and all you had to do to get drafted was be hot. Then they could change up the uniforms to resemble that of a cheerleader uniform or maybe just sports bras and "boy shorts". They dont even need to know how to play, it could be like a pee-wee basketball league but with hot girls in skimpy outfits, that would be entertaining

Horry For 3!
09-14-2005, 03:49 PM
I never watch any kind of Womens Basketball from HS, College, WNBA.

nkdlunch
09-14-2005, 03:50 PM
they should make the wnba into a non-professional league and all you had to do to get drafted was be hot. Then they could change up the uniforms to resemble that of a cheerleader uniform or maybe just sports bras and "boy shorts". They dont even need to know how to play, it could be like a pee-wee basketball league but with hot girls in skimpy outfits, that would be entertaining

or you could just order porn

midgetonadonkey
09-14-2005, 03:51 PM
they should make the wnba into a non-professional league and all you had to do to get drafted was be hot. Then they could change up the uniforms to resemble that of a cheerleader uniform or maybe just sports bras and "boy shorts". They dont even need to know how to play, it could be like a pee-wee basketball league but with hot girls in skimpy outfits, that would be entertaining

I'd watch that. Just as long as they don't wear anything that would prevent bouncing.

lil'mo
09-14-2005, 03:51 PM
wouldnt be the same

MaNuMaNiAc
09-14-2005, 03:52 PM
I think women in sports are generally boring. With the exception of the Olympics. Some of those women athletes are amazing. However, when it comes to say... soccer, basketball, hockey, tennis, etc... it's just not as entertaining.

batman2883
09-14-2005, 03:52 PM
Watching WNBA is like watching the special ed class play ball in elementary..

lil'mo
09-14-2005, 03:52 PM
I'd watch that. Just as long as they don't wear anything that would prevent bouncing.
they would be sure the uniforms were designed to allow maximum bouncability

Mixability
09-14-2005, 04:06 PM
Watching WNBA is like watching the special ed class play ball in elementary..

Come on, i hope you're not serious!??! These women probably have more athleticism in their pinky than you have in your whole body! Give them more respect than that! :rolleyes

batman2883
09-14-2005, 04:07 PM
Come on, i hope you're not serious!??! These women probably have more athleticism in their pinky than you have in your whole body! Give them more respect than that! :rolleyes


oh im damn serious and im willing to bet the world they couldnt take me one on one, not one of them.....females cant compete against males in ball...just a simple fact........






















j/k :lol

1Parker1
09-14-2005, 06:29 PM
oh im damn serious and im willing to bet the world they couldnt take me one on one, not one of them.....females cant compete against males in ball...just a simple fact........






















j/k :lol



$100 bucks says I can kick your ass in ball...........:)

Marklar MM
09-14-2005, 06:36 PM
Ill give you $100 to let me kick in your balls.

Sense
09-14-2005, 07:04 PM
I think Houston Comet's Star is the best player in the NBA. That chick can play, she's like the Duncan of the WNBA.

Trainwreck2100
09-14-2005, 07:17 PM
But "this one's for the girls", it's their turn.

whottt
09-14-2005, 07:29 PM
I agree the WNBA sucks...in fact I don't know how they stay in business or get a single viewer...then again...they usually put it up against Soccer.

Vashner
09-14-2005, 07:46 PM
WMOWA ....
Womens Mud and Oil Wrestling Association...

mrpach
09-14-2005, 07:52 PM
Sue Bird is hot

1Parker1
09-14-2005, 08:57 PM
Ill give you $100 to let me kick in your balls.


:lmao, Sorry, I don't have any balls. I would say I'd pay to kick yours, but I doubt you have any either.................. :princess

E20
09-14-2005, 09:55 PM
Oh my god, I'd beat anybody in the WNBA........It's a garbage league.

Mixability
09-14-2005, 09:56 PM
Oh my god, I'd beat anybody in the WNBA........It's a garbage league.

:rolleyes

duncan_21
09-14-2005, 09:57 PM
I think this topic has been stated quite a few times. That was a funny article. I like to watch the best athletes or at least close to the best athletes compete.

If you took a wnba team, they couldn't beat an average high school boys team. wnba is just is too far away from the best athletes to be watchable by the average basketball fan.

If I could play with an all conference womens basketball player and was better then her when I was out of shape and hadn't played ball in a while then I'm confident the average boys high school team could beat a wnba team.

Personally I enjoy nba/nfl more then college fb/bb simply because I get to see the best athletes play.

It's not a knock on women or how hard they play/practice but just the simple genetics that women are dealt. It's nothing to get upset about.

E20
09-14-2005, 09:58 PM
Yes, I'd beat Sue Bird, Lisa Leslie, and anybody else 1-on-1.

Me 10
Them: 7

SequSpur
09-14-2005, 10:01 PM
WNBA is a waste of money.

Mark in Austin
09-14-2005, 10:11 PM
It's amazing to me how 13 teams can find a way to be on NBAtv every damn night of the week. Who, in their right minds would chose a WNBA game over one of the Hardwood Classics games???

ShoogarBear
09-14-2005, 10:42 PM
$100 bucks says I can kick your ass in ball...........:)
This I gotta see.

batman2883
09-15-2005, 08:09 AM
$100 bucks says I can kick your ass in ball...........:)


fuck that make it a 1000 bucks and your on, aint no one girl that can take me one on one guranteed

1Parker1
09-15-2005, 08:37 AM
Shit....me and a pregnant Obiwan could take on you and Shoogarbear easily. :)

batman2883
09-15-2005, 08:43 AM
ha ha ha ha you only wish, 1P1 just bring it no smack talk just fly your little dandy bootie down here to SA and ill even put you up for your stay...you cant take me on the court, hell ill even give you Shoogarbear, and let it be 2 on 1

TDMVPDPOY
09-15-2005, 08:48 AM
I dont watch wnba cose u dont have access to cable tv :(, but i do watch wnbl australias womens domestic league :D:D love those girls in their team body suits :D:D, oh well starting next season they will be like the americans wearin shorts n jerseys how lame :(:(

spurs_fan_in_exile
09-15-2005, 09:37 AM
I think maybe they need to take a cue from Arena League Football and spice things up a little bit. Arena Football realized that they weren't going to get the best athletes so they made a few tweaks to make the scores higher and the games more exciting. Maybe they need to introduce four point shots, trampolines so that there's more dunking, or something because there's really no appeal in the basketball that's being played.

I remember when they first launched the league I was actually on board for the whole thing because it was being touted as a more fundamentally sound brand of team basketball versus the one on one, highlight happy NBA ball. Then I watched a game and they committed like 12 turnovers in 5 minutes.

ObiwanGinobili
09-15-2005, 09:43 AM
Shit....me and a pregnant Obiwan could take on you and Shoogarbear easily. :)


fucking ay! :tu
my jumpshot is a stinger ... and i never miss a free throw!


(but 1P1 will have to do all the pentrating... i get wall vision near the basket:lol)

1Parker1
09-15-2005, 09:45 AM
fucking ay! :tu
my jumpshot is a stinger ... and i never miss a free throw!


(but 1P1 will have to do all the pentrating... i get wall vision near the basket:lol)



I'm great at penetrating........ :smokin :lol


God, either I've been chatting with the men on this forum for too long or we need more women around here!

Spurminator
09-15-2005, 10:12 AM
It's amazing how such a boring game can inspire so many columns on how boring it is.

I don't watch it either... But I don't feel offended by its presence.

batman2883
09-15-2005, 10:13 AM
[QUOTE=1Parker1]I'm great at penetrating........ :smokin :lol

QUOTE]


ha ha hah a i bet you are

SequSpur
10-01-2008, 11:43 PM
I agree.

T Park
10-01-2008, 11:55 PM
I missed all the sexist remarks and generally closed minded statements.

Shame to see such stuff posted.

CuckingFunt
10-02-2008, 12:57 AM
generally closed minded statements.

Shame to see such stuff posted.

This... hurts my brain.

ChumpDumper
10-02-2008, 03:04 AM
It's funny, because any television show with Jay Mohr is also unwatchable.

florige
10-02-2008, 07:46 AM
I think Houston Comet's Star is the best player in the NBA. That chick can play, she's like the Duncan of the WNBA.


Candace Parker is the best player in the WNBA. She can flat out ball, and she looks pretty hot on top of it.




Oops she was still in college in 05. My mistake....:lol

Clandestino
10-02-2008, 07:49 AM
wnba sucks.. that is why they have to be subsidized by the nba. at all levels nobody really gives a shit about women's sports.. that is why they had to come up with that title 9 bs.

Clandestino
10-02-2008, 07:49 AM
only three types of people give a shit about the wnba...

lesbians, dikes, and their proud mothers.

Many PackYao
10-02-2008, 11:54 AM
...and the straight guys who appreciate Becky Hammon and Sue Bird's hotness.:D

lebomb
10-02-2008, 12:10 PM
I personally know some girls that played college ball U of H and LSU.......and I know for a fact most of the men in this forum could NOT and I repeat could NOT beat them one on one. They would torch your ass from outside. These girls shot like men......actually better. The WNBA wasnt around back then, but Im sure they could have made the league.

Im calling BS to those guys that say not ONE woman in the WNBA could beat them 1 on 1. ]

Oh, and by the way......I played BBall from the 7th grade thru highschool..........college intramurals and a dozen city leagues. 30 yrs of Bball experience. I only coach Bball now. So I know WTF Im talking about.......

Many PackYao
10-02-2008, 12:43 PM
I personally know some girls that played college ball U of H and LSU.......and I know for a fact most of the men in this forum could NOT and I repeat could NOT beat them one on one. They would torch your ass from outside. These girls shot like men......actually better. The WNBA wasnt around back then, but Im sure they could have made the league.

Im calling BS to those guys that say not ONE woman in the WNBA could beat them 1 on 1. ]

Oh, and by the way......I played BBall from the 7th grade thru highschool..........college intramurals and a dozen city leagues. 30 yrs of Bball experience. I only coach Bball now. So I know WTF Im talking about.......
Unlike most guys,I have no problem admitting that most of them can beat me at b-ball. I actually like watching their games cuz they play below the rim like I do.:toast

Bigzax
10-02-2008, 01:15 PM
i remember 'claudia' on our women's college basketball team...she was from columbia and oh so hot...

nice eye candy while waiting for the men's team to ball up.


since the spurs don't play right after the girls team...i'll pass.


lmao at all the bandwagoners just cuz their in the championship...:lol

MannyIsGod
10-03-2008, 07:12 PM
The WNBA has come a long way. The games are a lot better now. I like watching them from time to time.

Clandestino
10-03-2008, 07:34 PM
I personally know some girls that played college ball U of H and LSU.......and I know for a fact most of the men in this forum could NOT and I repeat could NOT beat them one on one. They would torch your ass from outside. These girls shot like men......actually better. The WNBA wasnt around back then, but Im sure they could have made the league.

Im calling BS to those guys that say not ONE woman in the WNBA could beat them 1 on 1. ]

Oh, and by the way......I played BBall from the 7th grade thru highschool..........college intramurals and a dozen city leagues. 30 yrs of Bball experience. I only coach Bball now. So I know WTF Im talking about.......

they play with a smaller ball. shots are a lot easier to make like that.

no matter what, they're still fucking boring. may as well a high school girls game.

T Park
10-03-2008, 07:35 PM
It's funny, because any television show with Jay Mohr is also unwatchable.

I won't disagree with that :lol

T Park
10-03-2008, 07:35 PM
This... hurts my brain.

Pardon me, I'll refrain from posting so that I don't infringe on your precious rights.

Christ.