Point distribution next year..IMO.

[apalisoc_9]

Kawhi 21PPG
Aldridge 19PPG
Parker 14PPG
Timmy 13 PPG
Green 11PPG
Bench 26 PPG

[hater]

Good thread bro.

I was thinking this. This is what we need for us to have a chance in hell:
- LMAlpha - 19ppg
- Kawbeta - 15ppg
- MVPorker - 14ppg
- Duncan - 10ppg
- Green - 10ppg
- Bench - 35ppg

The bench and porker are going to be the question marks.

We lost Ferrari. Huge loss. And porker? Well see

[hooperflash]

Can't wait to see Kawhi dominate the league :tu

[Chinook]

Depends on minutes, honestly. Like if Green gets 30-plus, then he'll probably be closer to 13-14ppg. If Aldridge goes down to 30ish, then he'll probably into the high teens. Same goes for Kawhi, who will lose touches to Parker as well as LMA. Tim's numbers seem about right if he only plays 24mpg or so. If he's at 30-plus, he'll be up there with the other guys.

The bench is also interesting as individuals. West needs his touches, and I expect him to get double-digit points. Mills probably as well. So the combo of Manu, Anderson/Simmons (not Jimmer) and Diaw are still unaccounted for, and I think they get more than 6 combined points.

[Chinook]

Feel like "Kawhiota" would be a better pejorative for Leonard, but that's just me.

[DPG21920]

LMA & Kawhi both 16-18 PPG. Everyone else less with starters averaging 70-72 PPG. Bench averages 30-35PPG. Offense should be 103-105 PPG.

So something like:

LMA: 18
Kawhi: 17
TP: 14
Tim: 12
Danny: 10

[ernest787]

How many points are ariza and beal going to combine for?

[jeebus]

LMA won't be a factor since he'll be lost to a knee injury throughout most of the season. Kawhi's hand problem will flare up per usual. I think it'll be


West 9
Duncan 12
Kawhi 14
Green 11
Fat Tony 13

Bench 30-35


It'll be a pretty disappointing season imo

[Chinook]

LMA & Kawhi both 16-18 PPG. Everyone else less with starters averaging 70-72 PPG. Bench averages 30-35PPG. Offense should be 103-105 PPG.

So something like:

LMA: 18
Kawhi: 17
TP: 14
Tim: 12
Danny: 10

Danny rarely has plays called for him, and the ones that he has called for him are in situations where he's still the best option. So I don't expect to see his points go down, especially given that his minutes should increase. Plus, he's going to be the beneficiary of being the fifth option on the opposing team's scouting report. Unless Danny goes through a shooting slump, he should push 15pp36.

[Chinook]

LMA won't be a factor since he'll be lost to a knee injury throughout most of the season.

You can take the player out of Portland, but you can't take the Portland out of the player.

[Chinook]

How many points are ariza and beal going to combine for?

Probably considerably more. They combined for 28.4ppg last year.

[SpursFan86]

LMA: 19-21 ppg
Kawhi: 17-19 ppg
Parker: 14-16 ppg
Duncan: 12-14 ppg
Green: 10-12 ppg

[jeebus]

You can take the player out of Portland, but you can't take the Portland out of the player.
Truth. Like poor Jerome Kersey, who had a nice long career, tried to exorcise those demons with a 'ship and retiring but the blazers curse caught up with him.

[SpursforSix]

If Parker is averaging 14-16 points, then he is playing too many minutes.

[honestfool84]

There's no way Kawhi averages more points than LMA.

LMA will rightfully be the #1 offensive option, which will allow Kawhi to focus on what he does best: defense.

[ernest787]

Probably considerably more. They combined for 28.4ppg last year.


Is it too late to trade kawhi for them?!?!?

[apalisoc_9]

There's no way Kawhi averages more points than LMA.

LMA will rightfully be the #1 offensive option, which will allow Kawhi to focus on what he does best: defense.

living up to that username tbh

[SpursforSix]

I think of the starting 5, it's a given that LA will average the most (around 20) and Parker the least (around 10). The other 3 will all be about the same (15).

[Chinook]

Is it too late to trade kawhi for them?!?!?

Yeah. Kawhi can't be traded until 01/15, and Beal will be a poison pill player by then, most likely.

[TheGreatYacht]

How many points are ariza and beal going to combine for?
:lmao

[Holden_Caulfield]

no one is cracking 20ppg, closest would be LMA then a battle between parker and kawhi for 2nd

[SpursFan86]

If Parker is averaging 14-16 points, then he is playing too many minutes.

He averaged 14.6 last season while playing like absolute shit and averaging 28 mpg. Granted there will be less touches now with Aldridge, but still.

[DPG21920]

Danny rarely has plays called for him, and the ones that he has called for him are in situations where he's still the best option. So I don't expect to see his points go down, especially given that his minutes should increase. Plus, he's going to be the beneficiary of being the fifth option on the opposing team's scouting report. Unless Danny goes through a shooting slump, he should push 15pp36.

I don't disagree but had to make the net numbers work. If DG averages 12PPG that likely means SA is averaging 106-108 PPG IMO.

[Chinook]

I don't disagree but had to make the net numbers work. If DG averages 12PPG that likely means SA is averaging 106-108 PPG IMO.

And that's not absurd given their roster. At least it shouldn't be by March. They're replacing a fifth-option offensive player with an All-Star scorer.

Again, we have to look at minutes. Maybe the bench scores less because Pop is getting an extra 25 minutes a game from his starters (Parker being healthy, WS getting more minutes without Beli and with Manu getting older, and LMA's 30-plus mpg replacing Splitter's 20ish mpg).

[Leetonidas]

I think Aldridge easily averages 20ppg. I think his average will go down a little but not by 4-7ppg. He will be getting looks he's never gotten before. Spurs run a lot of plays that he can feast from. Its not like the Blazers were absent of offensive players. And he played next to one of the bigger chuckers in the league the last couple years. He will be by far our best offensive player. Kawhi is a beast no doubt but lol at anyone thinking he is going to average more than LMA

[SpursforSix]

He averaged 14.6 last season while playing like absolute shit and averaging 28 mpg. Granted there will be less touches now with Aldridge, but still.

Yeah...and he took way too many shots to get those points. Per minute, his assists were down, his points were down, and his shooting % was down. Not to mention the defensive liability.
I'm not saying he's not capable of scoring 14 per game. But if he is, something's not right.

[dabom]

Looks about right.

[apalisoc_9]

Yeah...and he took way too many shots to get those points. Per minute, his assists were down, his points were down, and his shooting % was down. Not to mention the defensive liability.
I'm not saying he's not capable of scoring 14 per game. But if he is, something's not right.

Truth

The spurs are better off with him averaging 2PPG. or bet yet DNP

KUUMIA!!

[TXstbobcat]

How many points are ariza and beal going to combine for?

:lmao

[TXstbobcat]

As long as the Spurs score more points than the team they are playing against, then I don't care who leads them in scoring.

[AFMadison]

Truth

The spurs are better off with him averaging 2PPG. or bet yet DNP

KUUMIA!!

I feel like you have aspergers.

[apalisoc_9]

Hoping for Parker Major Injury.

What a POS.

[AFMadison]

Tim 14
Aldridge 19
Ariza 13
Beal 10
Parker 15

[Nathan89]

Hoping for a injured Parker over a healthy Parker is an idea that can only be thought up on the short bus route. If you don't get off it won't be long before you're hoping to trade Kawhi for Ariza and Beal.

[BD24]

LMA & Kawhi both 16-18 PPG. Everyone else less with starters averaging 70-72 PPG. Bench averages 30-35PPG. Offense should be 103-105 PPG.

So something like:

LMA: 18
Kawhi: 17
TP: 14
Tim: 12
Danny: 10
Agree with this. I don't really see anyone averaging 20 a game tbh. Maybe Kawhi or LMA in the playoffs when their minutes go up. Don't see anyone hitting 20 in regular season though.

[BD24]

Tim 14
Aldridge 19
Ariza 13
Beal 10
Parker 15
:lmao

[hater]

Tim 14
Aldridge 19
Ariza 13
Beal 10
Parker 15


:lmao

[Macca76]

no one is cracking 20ppg, closest would be LMA then a battle between parker and kawhi for 2nd
This

[Macca76]

He averaged 14.6 last season while playing like absolute shit and averaging 28 mpg. Granted there will be less touches now with Aldridge, but still.
And this

[apalisoc_9]

French fans.

:lmao

[T_L_P]

I think Aldridge easily averages 20ppg. I think his average will go down a little but not by 4-7ppg. He will be getting looks he's never gotten before. Spurs run a lot of plays that he can feast from. Its not like the Blazers were absent of offensive players. And he played next to one of the bigger chuckers in the league the last couple years. He will be by far our best offensive player. Kawhi is a beast no doubt but lol at anyone thinking he is going to average more than LMA
Aldridge needed 20 shots to average 23 points last season, and now Lillard is the chucker?

[Silver&Black]

Tim 14
Aldridge 19
Ariza 13
Beal 10
Parker 15

AFMadison....

My nigga.

[spurs10]

I could see no one average over 20. I think LMA will brooch that, but his minutes are likely to be less than in his past. About the same as Los Hand. Think they'll both average about 19...

Think our bench will be strong, but our starting line-up has improved offensively.

LMA-19
Kawhi-18
TP-15
Green-13
Tim-12 only because of his limited minutes

Bench-28

[dabom]

Porker with 4ppg like last playoffs. Lol

[spurraider21]

Tim 14
Aldridge 19
Ariza 13
Beal 10
Parker 15
:lmao

[Spurtacular]

A quick glance at the Clips series; the Spurs bench scored roughly 40 per game when their mins we're getting cut. Also, they were the top reg season bench last season; and they're arguably better this season. They'll exceed easily. Apo just had to make room for his hero doll collection and undersell the supporting cast.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2442518-power-ranking-all-nba-benches-this-season/page/31

[timtonymanu]

Aldridge 20 PPG
Kawhi 18 PPG
Tony 13 PPG (if not running dribble dribble)
Tim 12 PPG
Danny 11.5 PPG

Manu 10 PPG
West 8 PPG
Patty/Diaw 5-6 PPG
Jimmer - 38 PPG (for my dude Spurtacular)

[Spurtacular]

Aldridge 20 PPG
Kawhi 18 PPG
Tony 13 PPG (if not running dribble dribble)
Tim 12 PPG
Danny 11.5 PPG

Manu 10 PPG
West 8 PPG
Patty/Diaw 5-6 PPG
Jimmer - 38 PPG (for my dude Spurtacular (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615))

:lol Don't be surprised if Jimmer puts up a 38 on the board in a game next seasson.

[AFMadison]

AFMadison....

My nigga.

http://media1.giphy.com/media/zAVqLfCuBHAxW/giphy.gif

[100%duncan]

LMA 21 ppg
Kawhi 18 ppg
Tim 11 ppg
Parker 13 ppg
Danny 14 ppg

bench 40 ppg (West 10, Patty 10, Manu 10, Bobo 10)

[spurs10]

LMA 21 ppg
Kawhi 18 ppg
Tim 11 ppg
Parker 13 ppg
Danny 14 ppg

bench 40 ppg (West 10, Patty 10, Manu 10, Bobo 10) 117 a game? That is some major butt kicking!

[100%duncan]

117 a game? That is some major butt kicking!

Going for 73-9 too IMHO

[Spurtacular]

Going for 73-9 too IMHO

I hope you're right. I think it's possible but not likely.

[Joseph Kony]

LMA 21 ppg
Kawhi 18 ppg
Tim 11 ppg
Parker 13 ppg
Danny 14 ppg

bench 40 ppg (West 10, Patty 10, Manu 10, Bobo 10)
I like the way this guy thinks

[Mr Bones]

Is there someone posting in this thread who promised to never post on Spurstalk ever again?

[100%duncan]

I like the way this guy thinks

:lol

[YGWHI]

LMA will rightfully be the #1 offensive option, which will allow Kawhi to focus on what he does best: defense.

Only focus on defense? He has a chance to become a legit superstar on both ends if he can stay healthy and Pop gives him the opportunity to continue improving his offensive game. It can end just one way...paying huge dividends in the future, for the team.

LaMarcus 19-21
Kawhi 18-20
Parker 14-15
Tim 12
Danny 10

Bench 30-33 points

[AFMadison]

Is there someone posting in this thread who promised to never post on Spurstalk ever again?


http://media.giphy.com/media/zGgd5ZQWB13La/giphy.gif

[San Antonio Slayer]

Only focus on defense? He has a chance to become a legit superstar on both ends if he can stay healthy and Pop gives him the opportunity to continue improving his offensive game. It can end just one way...paying huge dividends in the future, for the team.

LaMarcus 19-21
Kawhi 18-20
Parker 14-15
Tim 12
Danny 10

Bench 30-33 points


Our bench have been one of the best in the league for 3-4 seasons scoring more than 40 ppg. now we've got best bench in our history and we would score 33...
50 ppg is a minimum for us.

[YGWHI]

Our bench have been one of the best in the league for 3-4 seasons scoring more than 40 ppg. now we've got best bench in our history and we would score 33...
50 ppg is a minimum for us.

-The Spurs had a distributed offense between starters and reserves last seasons, now we have Aldridge as go-to scorer.
-The bench have new young players at SG/SF, it's likely Danny, Kawhi will play more minutes than last season.
-With Aldridge playing 35-37 minutes at PF, Boris/West offensive impact wouldn't be as large as we think.
I know, 33-35 is a low scoring for the bench but the Spurs won't increase the pace.

[DenialTwist]

There are some well known nba analysts who always give the spurs crap for having a balanced point distribution and not one or two scorers who score at/more than 20ppg in a season. LMA is probably going to avg between 18-20, kawhi at 15-16. I'm not worried about scoring but assist rate. Because the spurs in 2014 average like 25apg. It was considerably less in 2015, as opposed to the Warriors who averaged between 27-29 apg. Obviously it's a good sign if the spurs can replicate that assist rate from 2014 or improve next season.

[YGWHI]

I'm not worried about scoring but assist rate. Because the spurs in 2014 average like 25apg. It was considerably less in 2015, as opposed to the Warriors who averaged between 27-29 apg. Obviously it's a good sign if the spurs can replicate that assist rate from 2014 or improve next season.

Our PGs weren't healthy all season, Kawhi missed games too and should be replaced with less effective players, really low team 3 point shooting field goal percentage in the first half of the season...many variables with high influence on the game and assists.

[San Antonio Slayer]

-The Spurs had a distributed offense between starters and reserves last seasons, now we have Aldridge as go-to scorer.
-The bench have new young players at SG/SF, it's likely Danny, Kawhi will play more minutes than last season.
-With Aldridge playing 35-37 minutes at PF, Boris/West offensive impact wouldn't be as large as we think.
I know, 33-35 is a low scoring for the bench but the Spurs won't increase the pace.

-Aldridge would score +20 with those constant pickandpops but I can't imagine a go-to scorer in Pop's team especially with such a roster.
-I think Pop's usual idea is developing new players, not sitting them out. Austin Daye was a nightmare even when he got reasonable minutes, Baynes and Ayers got their minutes too despite healthy Splitter. I am sure new youngsters will play a lot and Green's and Kawhi's playing time would be the same.
-There is no way Aldridge would play 35 minutes at PF in regular season games with healthy West, Bonner, Diaw. All the new "old" guys can play and pass, so mixed with Diaw, Patty and Manu the bench and team will increase the pace even more than we could imagine.

[Seventyniner]

Much of this thread is an exercise in futility. Here are the Spurs' per-game averages from last season:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2hplpg5.png

That last column adds up to 129.9. Just think about that for a second.

Forecasting individual per-game averages is fine. Trying to make them add up to a "reasonable" number like 103 or 106 doesn't work unless you assume that every player will play every game. We all know that isn't going to happen.

[cd021]

Parker-14ppg 28 mpg
Green-11 ppg-28 mpg
Leonard-17.5 ppg-32 mpg
Aldridge-20.5-33mpg
Duncan-13 ppg-27 mpg
-------------------------
76 PPG from the starters

probably 107 ppg for the team

[Dex]

Is it October yet? :wakeup

[cd021]

-Aldridge would score +20 with those constant pickandpops but I can't imagine a go-to scorer in Pop's team especially with such a roster.
-I think Pop's usual idea is developing new players, not sitting them out. Austin Daye was a nightmare even when he got reasonable minutes, Baynes and Ayers got their minutes too despite healthy Splitter. I am sure new youngsters will play a lot and Green's and Kawhi's playing time would be the same.
-There is no way Aldridge would play 35 minutes at PF in regular season games with healthy West, Bonner, Diaw. All the new "old" guys can play and pass, so mixed with Diaw, Patty and Manu the bench and team will increase the pace even more than we could imagine.

It shouldn't be hard to increase the pace, the Spurs weren't a fast team last season (17th). Portland, ranked 12th in Pace last year and got off 86 FGA per game. If the Spurs push the pace to around that level, that's about 3.5 more shots per game.

Its going to be interesting to see the bigs minutes distribution between LMA, TD, BD, and DW

Aldridge will probably play center for stretches with Diaw or West at the 4.

I'm expecting about 33 mpg for Aldridge. 28 mpg at the 4 and 5 at the 5.

PF
LMA-28
West-20

C
Duncan-27
LMA-5
Diaw-16(With rest games Diaw would average more than 16 mpg.)

[RD2191]

French faggot legion derailing yet another thread.

[spurraider21]

French faggot legion derailing yet another thread.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225796

[Brazil]

Much of this thread is an exercise in futility. Here are the Spurs' per-game averages from last season:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2hplpg5.png

That last column adds up to 129.9. Just think about that for a second.

Forecasting individual per-game averages is fine. Trying to make them add up to a "reasonable" number like 103 or 106 doesn't work unless you assume that every player will play every game. We all know that isn't going to happen.

:lol stop bringing logic in here tbh..

[apalisoc_9]

these losers still using the ariza for Kawhi schtick?

:lmao

Oh my these guys can't get enough of me.

:lol

[spurraider21]

Why dont you show us the PM to prove it was gameplanned :rollin

[Brazil]

Bruno forwarded me the PM apo sent to him in the suicide watch thread

Oh my

:lmao

[apalisoc_9]

Gamplanned :lmao

That thread was a dirext response to some idiot saying he'd rather take beal over Leonard..Funny how I made another Kawhi is superstar thread after that

reaching for my attention :lmao

[RD2191]

Apo living rent free tbh.

[SAGirl]

-Aldridge would score +20 with those constant pickandpops but I can't imagine a go-to scorer in Pop's team especially with such a roster.
-I think Pop's usual idea is developing new players, not sitting them out. Austin Daye was a nightmare even when he got reasonable minutes, Baynes and Ayers got their minutes too despite healthy Splitter. I am sure new youngsters will play a lot and Green's and Kawhi's playing time would be the same.
-There is no way Aldridge would play 35 minutes at PF in regular season games with healthy West, Bonner, Diaw. All the new "old" guys can play and pass, so mixed with Diaw, Patty and Manu the bench and team will increase the pace even more than we could imagine.

This TBH. Bench will play. Pop always plays the long game: keeping guys healthy and bouncy for the playoffs, not running guys into the ground who will then flameout. You could argue a number of play-off teams have flamed out in recent years because of lack of bench support, injuries or some guys having had too much of a burden. Regular season is when you find out who among the new kids is going to give you some energy when the team needs it.

[Spurtacular]

Much of this thread is an exercise in futility. Here are the Spurs' per-game averages from last season:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2hplpg5.png

That last column adds up to 129.9. Just think about that for a second.

Forecasting individual per-game averages is fine. Trying to make them add up to a "reasonable" number like 103 or 106 doesn't work unless you assume that every player will play every game. We all know that isn't going to happen.

I thought of that when I was considering doing a forecast. I was considering doing averages whether the player DNP'd or not. But I figured that and my predictions might not go over too well, so I just took a pass. :lol

[spurs10]

Its going to be interesting to see the bigs minutes distribution between LMA, TD, BD, and DW

Aldridge will probably play center for stretches with Diaw or West at the 4.

I'm expecting about 33 mpg for Aldridge. 28 mpg at the 4 and 5 at the 5.

PF
LMA-28
West-20

C
Duncan-27
LMA-5
Diaw-16(With rest games Diaw would average more than 16 mpg.) This is what I'm curious about as well..:toast

[Seventyniner]

I thought of that when I was considering doing a forecast. I was considering doing averages whether the player DNP'd or not. But I figured that and my predictions might not go over too well, so I just took a pass. :lol

You would have to predict how many points the team will average (let's say 105), multiply by 82 (8610), decide how many points to assign to each player and how many games they'll each play, and then divide to get their averages. Unless you assume every player plays all 82, the averages will add up to more than 105.

[Spurtacular]

You would have to predict how many points the team will average (let's say 105), multiply by 82 (8610), decide how many points to assign to each player and how many games they'll each play, and then divide to get their averages. Unless you assume every player plays all 82, the averages will add up to more than 105.

No, I was saying counting a DNP as a zero and game played. So, players with high DNPs would have significantly reduced averages.

[Seventyniner]

No, I was saying counting a DNP as a zero and game played. So, players with high DNPs would have significantly reduced averages.

Yes, that would work. But if a key player misses a bunch of games due to injury, his average would be skewed. Example: a 20 PPG scorer misses half the season, this method gives him an average of 10, which drastically understates his importance to the offense.

[Spurtacular]

Yes, that would work. But if a key player misses a bunch of games due to injury, his average would be skewed. Example: a 20 PPG scorer misses half the season, this method gives him an average of 10, which drastically understates his importance to the offense.

That's what makes it kind of fun. Guessing production and durability. Would want to put KL for 78 games or more or guess that he has another freak injury? Will The Big Three have a record amount of DNPs? Will Jimmer play 10 game or 65? Etc.