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m>s
08-14-2015, 10:56 AM
If she doesn't go to prison then something is seruouu screwed up with the justice system

http://observer.com/2015/08/the-countless-crimes-of-hillary-clinton-special-prosecutor-needed-now/

Splits
08-14-2015, 11:05 AM
yeah, Newsmax is reputable.

Winehole23
08-14-2015, 11:06 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-e-mail-server-turned-over-to-fbi/2015/08/12/aba5feea-4160-11e5-8ab4-c73967a143d3_story.html

Winehole23
08-14-2015, 11:09 AM
yeah, Newsmax is reputable.the Newsmax article is based on reporting in NYT and WaPo, fwiw

hater
08-14-2015, 11:11 AM
You can't really get rid of the data unless you format the drive and reload it with dummy data and format it again and reload it with dummy data countless times. Once that's been done I believe the data is really gone.

Good job Shilkary. You crook.

hater
08-14-2015, 11:15 AM
Btw if her drives are SSD she is shit out of luck. SSDs ovewrite data in layers so absolutely EVERYTHING can be recovered.

Be smart don't use ssds for sensitive data

boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 12:14 PM
emails!

Acorn!

Benghazi!

Planned Parenthood!

Vince Foster!

Christmas cards!

Govern? Fuck no, we're Repugs, we inflame our (out-of-control base) base non-stop with lies, slander, fabricated outrage.

TheSanityAnnex
08-14-2015, 02:05 PM
emails!

Acorn!

Benghazi!

Planned Parenthood!

Vince Foster!

Christmas cards!

Govern? Fuck no, we're Repugs, we inflame our (out-of-control base) base non-stop with lies, slander, fabricated outrage.

The last remaining Spurstalk deflector shilling away.

in2deep
08-14-2015, 02:15 PM
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2015/03/16/16-baghdad-bob.w529.h352.2x.jpg

boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 02:17 PM
The last remaining Spurstalk deflector shilling away.

All the Repugs do is deflect from governing.

TSA is approaching TB :lol in butt-hurted-ness and in stalking The Great Boutons

TheSanityAnnex
08-14-2015, 02:35 PM
All the Repugs do is deflect from governing.

TSA is approaching TB :lol in butt-hurted-ness and in stalking The Great Boutons
:lol stalking
you spam every single thread it's hard not to shit on you daily

boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 02:40 PM
:lol stalking
you spam every single thread it's hard not to shit on you daily

I post wherever and whatever I want, not the same as TB :lol and you spamming my posts.

Clipper Nation
08-14-2015, 02:54 PM
emails!

Acorn!

Benghazi!

Planned Parenthood!

Vince Foster!

Christmas cards!

Govern? Fuck no, we're Repugs, we inflame our (out-of-control base) base non-stop with lies, slander, fabricated outrage.
Where there's smoke, there's fire. Shillary has been a scandal a minute for most of her adult life and it's finally catching up to her.

It's hilarious to see libcucks like you spin everything to defend a career politician with almost every single trait you loathe in neocons and establishment Republicans. She's corrupt, a warmonger, a condescending prick, an "evil 1%-er," and an overall loathsome human being. But all of that stops mattering when there's a (D) next to her name.

boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 02:56 PM
Where there's smoke, there's fire. Shillary has been a scandal a minute for most of her adult life and it's finally catching up to her.

It's hilarious to see libcucks like you spin everything to defend a career politician with almost every single trait you loathe in neocons and establishment Republicans.

The scandals-a-minute have all been VRWC/Repug fabrications for 30 years, DEFLECTIONS, slander, witch hunting, creating "troublesome" "controversies" when only the VRWC/Repug create the smoke and never find any fire. aka, the politics of personal destruction.

thunder
08-14-2015, 03:02 PM
The scandals-a-minute have all been VRWC/Repug fabrications for 30 years, DEFLECTIONS, slander, witch hunting, creating "troublesome" "controversies" when only the VRWC/Repug create the smoke and never find any fire. aka, the politics of personal destruction.
Do you know how batshit crazy you sound? I would not be surprised if you have no friends IRL, tbh. You will take this crazy libtard agenda with you to the grave with nothing to show for.

boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 03:05 PM
Do you know how batshit crazy you sound?

batshit crazy a from rigthwingnut weirdo is huge compliment. Thanks!

thunder
08-14-2015, 03:06 PM
batshit crazy a from rigthwingnut weirdo is huge compliment. Thanks!
Not a rightwing nut weirdo. I expected this deflection, though.

ChumpDumper
08-14-2015, 03:15 PM
Just checking to see if any laws were broken yet.

Any updates on that front?

m>s
08-14-2015, 03:24 PM
Just checking to see if any laws were broken yet.

Any updates on that front?
I think deleting the data in itself was a crime

CosmicCowboy
08-14-2015, 03:34 PM
I think deleting the data in itself was a crime

Don't be silly. If chump can name a Republican that deleted an email it makes it OK.

boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 04:09 PM
Don't be silly. If chump can name a Republican that deleted an email it makes it OK.

dubya/dickhead's WH deleted Ms of emails, Repugs shrugged.


Rick Perry automatically deletes all staffer emails after seven days (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/30/1011983/-Rick-Perry-automatically-deletes-all-staffer-emails-after-seven-days)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/30/1011983/-Rick-Perry-automatically-deletes-all-staffer-emails-after-seven-days#



Jeb Bush and Scott Walker among 2016 hopefuls who have used private emails

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/07/jeb-bush-scott-walker-hillary-clinton-private-emails

SpursforSix
08-14-2015, 04:13 PM
dubya/dickhead's WH deleted Ms of emails, Repugs shrugged.


Rick Perry automatically deletes all staffer emails after seven days (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/30/1011983/-Rick-Perry-automatically-deletes-all-staffer-emails-after-seven-days)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/30/1011983/-Rick-Perry-automatically-deletes-all-staffer-emails-after-seven-days#



Jeb Bush and Scott Walker among 2016 hopefuls who have used private emails

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/07/jeb-bush-scott-walker-hillary-clinton-private-emails




Because that's the exact same thing as Hillary sending emails with top secret satellite photos to China.

boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 04:25 PM
Because that's the exact same thing as Hillary sending emails with top secret satellite photos to China.

:lol you rightwingnuts are so self-indicting as incredibly stupid

DMX7
08-14-2015, 04:29 PM
Because that's the exact same thing as Hillary sending emails with top secret satellite photos to China.

lol, wut?

boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 04:31 PM
AP Story Demonstrates Weak Claims Against Hillary On E-mails

In an AP Story (http://bigstory.ap.org/urn:publicid:ap.org:b54a250a40e9410baaaca5f9fb58ea 94) sourced by Intelligence Community officials, the extreme weakness of the claims against Hillary Clinton are well explained. AP writes:


The two emails on Hillary Rodham Clinton's private server that an auditor deemed "top secret" include a discussion of a news article detailing a U.S. drone operation and a separate conversation that could point back to highly classified material in an improper manner or merely reflect information collected independently, U.S. officials who have reviewed the correspondence told The Associated Press. [My emphasis]

The idea that an email discussing a news article could be deemed "Top Secret" is ludicrous of course. But the IC is nothing if not ludicrous when it comes to classification issues.

The story continues:


The sourcing of the information in the emails could have significant political implications as the 2016 presidential campaign heats up [. . .]

The officials who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity work in intelligence and other agencies.

They wouldn't detail the contents of the emails because of ongoing questions about classification level.Clinton did not transmit the sensitive information herself, they said, and nothing in the emails she received makes clear reference to communications intercepts, confidential intelligence methods or any other form of sensitive sourcing. [My emphasis]

Let's review this again -

(1) Clinton did not transmit the sensitive information herself and

(2) nothing in the emails she received makes clear reference to communications intercepts, confidential intelligence methods or any other form of sensitive sourcing.

Frankly, this puts Clinton completely in the clear. This story SHOULD be over as far as Hillary is concerned. IS that true for other State personnel? I think so. But there can be no doubt as to Clinton.

The AP story continues:

The drone exchange, the officials said, begins with a copy of a news article that discusses the CIA drone program that targets terrorists in Pakistan and elsewhere. While a secret program, it is well-known and often reported on. The copy makes reference to classified information, and a Clinton adviser follows up by dancing around a top secret in a way that could possibly be inferred as confirmation, they said. Several officials, however, described this claim as tenuous.

This passage is unclear in this phrase - "The copy makes reference to classified information." This could mean, as I think it does, the copy from the news article. In which case, huh? A news article can be TOP SECRET? Just ludicrous. If "copy" means something else, I have no idea what it could be.

The story continues:

[A] second email reviewed by Charles McCullough, the intelligence community inspector general, appears more suspect. Nothing in the message is "lifted" from classified documents, the officials said, though they differed on where the information in it was sourced. Some said it improperly points back to highly classified material, while others countered that it was a classic case of what the government calls "parallel reporting" — different people knowing the same thing through different means.

This seems to be a part of the interagency food fight where the IC thinks everything is classified, even though everyone knows from various sources and normal reasonable people say that's nonsense. And again, none of this implicates Hillary.

The rest of the article is a basic retelling of the controversy.

If this AP story is accurate, it's pretty clear there is no there there in this story.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2015/8/14/105337/249/Election16/AP-Story-Demonstrates-Weak-Claims-Against-Hillary-On-E-mails

Benghazi!

Vince Foster murdered (in fact the Clintons murdered LOTS of people all through the 80s and 90s)!

ACORN!

Benghazi!

Planned Parenthood!

Christmas card list!

Benghazi!

Bill Clinton shooting at OBL only to distract from impeachment! ( Repugs then take office and totally ignore OBL and Muslim terrorism )

ChumpDumper
08-14-2015, 04:36 PM
I think deleting the data in itself was a crimeShow me the law. I said I am waiting for updates.


Don't be silly. If chump can name a Republican that deleted an email it makes it OK.CC knows it's only OK when a Republican does it because he knows no Republican has ever broken a law in the history of the US.

You're a hack, CC.

m>s
08-14-2015, 04:42 PM
Show me the law. I said I am waiting for updates.

CC knows it's only OK when a Republican does it because he knows no Republican has ever broken a law in the history of the US.

You're a hack, CC.
I'll do some research and get back to you but I just had to laugh at you calling anyone a partisan hack, too funny

CosmicCowboy
08-14-2015, 04:53 PM
Show me the law. I said I am waiting for updates.

CC knows it's only OK when a Republican does it because he knows no Republican has ever broken a law in the history of the US.

You're a hack, CC.

I never claimed that republicans never broke laws and you are a vacuous straw man building asshole, chump.

Splits
08-14-2015, 05:17 PM
the Newsmax article is based on reporting in NYT and WaPo, fwiw

It's completely mis-characterizing the WaPo article. The lady who handed over the "old server" said the data was migrated to the new server in 2013 and then her company wiped it. Newsmax is making it sound like Hillary ordered the machine wiped in order to cover something up. Which is why the titles of the actual news articles vs the hackjob article are so different.

Regardless, I hope they find thousands of top secret emails were passing through her server, she won't be able to survive that.

ChumpDumper
08-14-2015, 05:52 PM
I'll do some research and get back to you but I just had to laugh at you calling anyone a partisan hack, too funnylol research

You'll never speak of this again.


I never claimed that republicans never broke laws and you are a vacuous straw man building asshole, chump.I couldn't dream of matching your straw man construction capacity, asshole.

TheSanityAnnex
08-14-2015, 06:23 PM
boutons I must apologize. I said you were the last remaining Hillary shill and I was incorrect.

ChumpDumper
08-14-2015, 06:32 PM
boutons I must apologize. I said you were the last remaining Hillary shill and I was incorrect.Don't be an asshole too.

Just answer my question -- have any laws been broken? I haven't been following this much and I'm sure the super conservative internet sleuths of SpursTalk have investigated this thoroughly.

Or are you too busy fapping at newsmax to tell?

TheSanityAnnex
08-14-2015, 06:40 PM
Don't be an asshole too.

Just answer my question -- have any laws been broken? I haven't been following this much and I'm sure the super conservative internet sleuths of SpursTalk have investigated this thoroughly.

Or are you too busy fapping at newsmax to tell?
I didn't say ChumpDumper was shilling, you must feel like you are with your response. I do not believe you have not been following it you are literally online 20 hours a day.

ChumpDumper
08-14-2015, 06:42 PM
I didn't say ChumpDumper was shilling, you must feel like you are with your response. I do not believe you have not been following it you are literally online 20 hours a day.So you didn't mean me?

OK.

Have any laws been broken?

Quit stalling and answer.

TheSanityAnnex
08-14-2015, 06:47 PM
So you didn't mean me?

OK.

Have any laws been broken?

Quit stalling and answer.
You will get your answer when the investigation is complete. Since you aren't following it maybe check back in here in a few weeks.

TeyshaBlue
08-14-2015, 06:49 PM
All the Repugs do is deflect from governing.

TSA is approaching TB :lol in butt-hurted-ness and in stalking The Great Boutons

The obsession continues. Get a hobby, moonbat.

ChumpDumper
08-14-2015, 06:54 PM
You will get your answer when the investigation is complete. Since you aren't following it maybe check back in here in a few weeks.I'll just take for granted you are too upset to give a simple answer, so I can safely assume no law has been broken.

spurraider21
08-14-2015, 07:59 PM
Thought I had read she was being criminally instigated by the fbi

boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 08:00 PM
Thought I had read she was being criminally instigated by the fbi

that was LIE leaked by the Repugs, totally refuted, nobody punished.

spurraider21
08-14-2015, 08:05 PM
that was LIE leaked by the Repugs, totally refuted, nobody punished.
well if the investigation isn't complete, there wouldn't be a punishment yet

boutons_deux
08-14-2015, 08:09 PM
well if the investigation isn't complete, there wouldn't be a punishment yet

there was never a referral to DoJ for a CRIMINAL investigation, and the LEAKER of the lie was not punished.

TheSanityAnnex
08-14-2015, 08:42 PM
I'll just take for granted you are too upset to give a simple answer, so I can safely assume no law has been broken.

Odd to assume anything after saying you weren't following the story. Even odder that abother user named ChumpDumper (alt?) has been following the story.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245102

or are you just following those who are following the story?

ChumpDumper
08-14-2015, 10:44 PM
Odd to assume anything after saying you weren't following the story. Even odder that abother user named ChumpDumper (alt?) has been following the story.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245102

or are you just following those who are following the story?Since the last post in that thread was June, I will now assume you are a complete idiot who cannot perceive the passage of time.

Jesus, when did you get so stupid? Did you finally shoot yourself in the head?

TheSanityAnnex
08-15-2015, 12:12 AM
Since the last post in that thread was June, I will now assume you are a complete idiot who cannot perceive the passage of time.

Jesus, when did you get so stupid? Did you finally shoot yourself in the head?
Looks like that's when the thread died, does that mean everyone in it stopped following it? In this thread are we all following it again? Are you following it more than me because you have more posts ITT?

ChumpDumper
08-15-2015, 04:11 PM
Looks like that's when the thread died, does that mean everyone in it stopped following it? In this thread are we all following it again? Are you following it more than me because you have more posts ITT?Are these serious questions?

I'm worried about you, man.

TheSanityAnnex
08-15-2015, 04:16 PM
Are these serious questions?

I'm worried about you, man.
Yes please answer them.

ChumpDumper
08-15-2015, 06:23 PM
Looks like that's when the thread died, does that mean everyone in it stopped following it?Not necessarily everyone.

In this thread are we all following it again?Not necessarily all.
Are you following it more than me because you have more posts ITT?No.

Are you aware that a person can stop following a story for six weeks and then can say he hasn't been following that story?

And in your following this story, have you concluded any laws were broken?

TheSanityAnnex
08-15-2015, 06:41 PM
Not necessarily everyone.
Not necessarily all.No.

Are you aware that a person can stop following a story for six weeks and then can say he hasn't been following that story?

And in your following this story, have you concluded any laws were broken?
I haven't been following the story closely. As I told you earlier I'll be waiting for the conclusion of the investigation to see if any laws were broken.

ChumpDumper
08-15-2015, 06:44 PM
I haven't been following the story closely. As I told you earlier I'll be waiting for the conclusion of the investigation to see if any laws were broken.You didn't answer the questions.

Please answer the questions.

TheSanityAnnex
08-15-2015, 06:46 PM
You didn't answer the questions.

Please answer the questions.
1. Yes
2. Already answered

ChumpDumper
08-15-2015, 06:50 PM
1. YesThen you'll agree it was stupid for you to act like it's not possible.

2. Already answeredCop out duly noted.

TheSanityAnnex
08-15-2015, 06:55 PM
Then you'll agree it was stupid for you to act like it's not possible.disagree. For other people surely possible, not possible with your most epic log of spurstalk time. I simply just don't believe you that is all, no hard feelings.

Cop out duly noted.being consistent is not a cop out.

ChumpDumper
08-15-2015, 06:58 PM
disagree. For other people surely possible, not possible with your most epic log of spurstalk time. I simply just don't believe you that is all, no hard feelings.Repeated hard feelings ad hominem duly noted.

being consistent is not a cop out.You consistently cop out, I'll give you that.

spurraider21
08-15-2015, 08:26 PM
Repeated hard feelings ad hominem duly noted.



Jesus, when did you get so stupid? Did you finally shoot yourself in the head?

ChumpDumper
08-15-2015, 08:29 PM
It seemed to be an especially stupid question for him; so much so that I voiced concern for his health.

Winehole23
08-16-2015, 03:52 AM
It's completely mis-characterizing the WaPo article. The lady who handed over the "old server" said the data was migrated to the new server in 2013 and then her company wiped it. Newsmax is making it sound like Hillary ordered the machine wiped in order to cover something up. Which is why the titles of the actual news articles vs the hackjob article are so different.yep


Regardless, I hope they find thousands of top secret emails were passing through her server, she won't be able to survive that.No, she wouldn't. Wouldn't break my heart if that happened, but the alternative is Biden. Not sure I like that much better.

hater
08-16-2015, 09:18 AM
:lmao raising Al Gores dead corpse as a backup plan :lmao :lol

Winehole23
08-16-2015, 10:48 AM
who mentioned Al Gore?

m>s
08-16-2015, 11:00 AM
Hillary has bigger problems to worry
about that running for president. I bet Biden or someone else jumps in soon, sanders is too much of a fringe candidate and can't win in a country that is seeing a massive shift in its views to conservatism. Maybe if sanders was fringe right wing but not in America as a socialist.

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2015, 06:21 PM
18 U.S.C. 1924 - UNAUTHORIZED REMOVAL AND RETENTION OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS OR MATERIAL

(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.

(b) For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).

(c) In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2015, 06:22 PM
18 U.S.C. 793
United States Code, 2009 Edition
Title 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 37 - ESPIONAGE AND CENSORSHIP
Sec. 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
From the U.S. Government Printing Office, www.gpo.gov (http://www.gpo.gov/)

§793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation, goes upon, enters, flies over, or otherwise obtains information concerning any vessel, aircraft, work of defense, navy yard, naval station, submarine base, fueling station, fort, battery, torpedo station, dockyard, canal, railroad, arsenal, camp, factory, mine, telegraph, telephone, wireless, or signal station, building, office, research laboratory or station or other place connected with the national defense owned or constructed, or in progress of construction by the United States or under the control of the United States, or of any of its officers, departments, or agencies, or within the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States, or any place in which any vessel, aircraft, arms, munitions, or other materials or instruments for use in time of war are being made, prepared, repaired, stored, or are the subject of research or development, under any contract or agreement with the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or with any person on behalf of the United States, or otherwise on behalf of the United States, or any prohibited place so designated by the President by proclamation in time of war or in case of national emergency in which anything for the use of the Army, Navy, or Air Force is being prepared or constructed or stored, information as to which prohibited place the President has determined would be prejudicial to the national defense; or
(b) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe, copies, takes, makes, or obtains, or attempts to copy, take, make, or obtain, any sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, document, writing, or note of anything connected with the national defense; or
(c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or
(d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.
(h)(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law, any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from any foreign government, or any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, as the result of such violation. For the purposes of this subsection, the term “State” includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.
(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection.
(3) The provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)–(p)) shall apply to—
(A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;
(B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and
(C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property,

if not inconsistent with this subsection.
(4) Notwithstanding section 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund in the Treasury all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 736; Sept. 23, 1950, ch. 1024, title I, §18, 64 Stat. 1003; Pub. L. 99–399, title XIII, §1306(a), Aug. 27, 1986, 100 Stat. 898; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 103–359, title VIII, §804(b)(1), Oct. 14, 1994, 108 Stat. 3440; Pub. L. 104–294, title VI, §607(b), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3511.)
Historical and Revision NotesBased on sections 31 and 36 of title 50, U.S.C., 1940 ed., War and National Defense (June 15, 1917, ch. 30, title I, §§1, 6, 40 Stat. 217, 219; Mar. 28, 1940, ch. 72, §1, 54 Stat. 79).
Section consolidated sections 31 and 36 of title 50, U.S.C., 1940 ed., War and National Defense.
Words “departments or agencies” were inserted twice in conformity with definitive section 6 of this title to eliminate any possible ambiguity as to scope of section.
The words “or induces or aids another” were omitted wherever occurring as unnecessary in view of definition of “principal” in section 2 of this title.
Mandatory punishment provision was rephrased in the alternative.
Minor changes were made in phraseology.
Amendments1996—Subsec. (h)(1). Pub. L. 104–294 inserted at end “For the purposes of this subsection, the term ‘State’ includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.”
1994—Pub. L. 103–322 substituted “fined under this title” for “fined not more than $10,000” in undesignated par. after subsec. (f).
Subsec. (h)(3). Pub. L. 103–359 substituted “(p)” for “(o)” in two places.
1986—Subsec. (h). Pub. L. 99–399 added subsec. (h).
1950—Act Sept. 23, 1950, divided section into subdivisions, inserted laboratories and stations, and places where material or instruments for use in time of war are the subject of research or development to the list of facilities and places to which subsection (a) applies, made subsection (d) applicable only in cases in which possession, access, or control is lawful, added subsection (e) to take care of cases in which possession, access, or control, is unlawful, made subsection (f) applicable to instruments and appliances, as well as to documents, records, etc., and provided by subsection (g) a separate penalty for conspiracy to violate any provisions of this section.
Indictment for Violating This Section; Limitation PeriodLimitation period in connection with indictments for violating this section, see note set out under section 792 of this title.

ChumpDumper
08-17-2015, 06:28 PM
So are you saying Hillary broke these laws?

Ignignokt
08-17-2015, 06:30 PM
So are you saying Hillary did broke these laws?

break

ChumpDumper
08-17-2015, 06:30 PM
breakThanks

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2015, 06:37 PM
We'll find out when the investigation is complete.

ChumpDumper
08-17-2015, 06:39 PM
We'll find out when the investigation is complete.At this point with everything you know, do you think she broke the laws you posted?

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2015, 06:44 PM
At this point with everything you know, do you think she broke the laws you posted?

I hope so.

ChumpDumper
08-17-2015, 06:45 PM
I hope so.That wasn't the question.

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2015, 06:57 PM
No one from the FBI has briefed me on their findings. Why is the concept of an ongoing investigation so difficult for you to grasp.

ChumpDumper
08-17-2015, 07:04 PM
No one from the FBI has briefed me on their findings. Why is the concept of an ongoing investigation so difficult for you to grasp.You're the one posting laws you think are applicable here. Why would you post laws you don't think were broken?

Jesus, when did you become afraid to express an opinion? This is Darrin level snarkiness.

Clipper Nation
08-17-2015, 07:10 PM
You're the one posting laws you think are applicable here. Why would you post laws you don't think were broken?

Jesus, when did you become afraid to express an opinion? This is Darrin level snarkiness.
Highly ironic coming from you, David. You never express any takes of your own, you just nitpick everyone else's to death with your 500 Questions schtick.

ChumpDumper
08-17-2015, 07:17 PM
Highly ironic coming from you, David. You never express any takes of your own, you just nitpick everyone else's to death with your 500 Questions schtick.Highly ironic coming from you, David. You never express any takes of your own, you steal everyone else's shticks and drive them to death.

DMX7
08-17-2015, 07:55 PM
I doubt she broke any laws, but quite frankly, I don't care.

She handles everything so poorly including this situation. I'm tired of it.

pgardn
08-17-2015, 08:06 PM
She handles everything so poorly including this situation. I'm tired of it.

This makes her Republican.

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2015, 08:14 PM
You're the one posting laws you think are applicable here. Why would you post laws you don't think were broken?

Jesus, when did you become afraid to express an opinion? This is Darrin level snarkiness.

You repeatedly asked what laws could have been broken, you now have laws that could have been broken.

ChumpDumper
08-17-2015, 08:16 PM
You repeatedly asked what laws could have been broken, you now have laws that could have been broken.I repeatedly asked you if you think any laws had been broken.

I have a lot of dodging from you.

boutons_deux
08-17-2015, 08:16 PM
BENGHAZI!! will be back, probably closer to Dem convention.

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2015, 08:34 PM
I repeatedly asked you if you think any laws had been broken.

I have a lot of dodging from you.
That's been repeatedly answered as well. I don't have access to the information to form such an opinion.

ChumpDumper
08-17-2015, 08:49 PM
That's been repeatedly answered as well. I don't have access to the information to form such an opinion.Repeated dodge duly noted.

TeyshaBlue
08-17-2015, 08:50 PM
I doubt she broke any laws, but quite frankly, I don't care.

She handles everything so poorly including this situation. I'm tired of it.
Agreed. Doubtful there will be criminal charges from this.
The Republicans are looking desperately for anything to use as ammo and Hilary stupidly gift wraps this for them. A pox on both.

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2015, 09:16 PM
Repeated dodge duly noted.
That's wonderful dear.

TheSanityAnnex
08-17-2015, 09:17 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/hillary-clinton-emails-300-screened-121438.html

up to 305 possible emails now.

Clipper Nation
08-17-2015, 09:19 PM
That's wonderful dear.
:lmao

boutons_deux
08-18-2015, 06:01 AM
Florida Gov. Rick Scott Picks The Public’s Pockets

No other sitting governor has used tax money to end public-records cases that were caused by his own secretive misbehavior. Scott couldn’t care less.

He paid off in one case to avoid producing thousands of emails from private Google accounts on which he and staff members conducted public business, against the law. Scott said such accounts didn’t exist, which was a flat-out lie.

The stealth emails came to light in a lawsuit by Tallahassee attorney Steven R. Andrews, who was trying to buy an office building on property that Scott wanted to use as a “legacy park” around the governor’s mansion.

Once Andrews learned about Scott’s undisclosed emails, he pushed hard to obtain them. After a court recently ruled that Google had to turn over all relevant correspondence in the governor’s accounts, Scott quickly decided to settle the case rather than reveal the contents of his messages.

He agreed to pay Andrews $700,000 to end the case.

More accurately, he agreed to pay $700,000 with state funds. The governor personally won’t be writing the check, even though he’s the one who broke the law.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/florida-gov-rick-scott-picks-the-publics-pockets/#

boutons_deux
08-18-2015, 11:35 AM
Did Chris Christie Forget About the Time He Deleted Bridgegate Text Messages? (http://gizmodo.com/uh-did-chris-christie-forget-about-the-time-he-deleted-1724791857)


apparently it was long ago enough that New Jersey governor and ardent Springsteen stan Chris Christie doesn’t remember the details of his worst political scandal.

Christie recently compared himself (http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/17/politics/chris-christie-hillary-clinton-emails/index.html) to democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton (http://gizmodo.com/a-list-of-people-clinton-should-ask-for-advice-about-he-1723653491) on CNN’s News Day, implying that Clinton’s behavior with her email server smacks of a coverup:

“Can you imagine, if after the bridge investigation began, I came out and said ‘Oh, I’ve done all my business as governor on a private email server. And, I’ve deleted now 30,000 of those emails. But trust me none of it had to do with the bridge.’ Give me a break”


Christie made the same comparison on CNBC in May, arguing that the media’s treatment of Clinton was biased in her favor (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/chris-christie-hillary-clinton-emails) and that he would’ve been excoriated far harsher for a similar scandal.

This comparison is bizarre. It’s bad politics for Christie to voluntarily draw attention to “the bridge investigation”—aka Bridgegate (http://gawker.com/what-the-hell-is-this-chris-christie-bridge-scandal-an-1499317392)—aka the time Christie’s team deliberately caused a traffic jam for political gain. It’s one of the most flagrant embarrassments of his career. It’d make more sense if Christie never even uttered the word “bridge” again, but aside from that, arguing that he’d be pilloried for deleting digital communications related to Bridgegate is a weirdo move for Christie because his team did delete digital communications related to Bridgegate.

Christie and a top aide deleted 12 text messages (http://www.wnyc.org/story/why-did-christie-delete-12-bridgegate-text-messages/)exchanged on the day of a legislative hearing into the bridge—the beginning of an investigation that yielded resignations from his staff, indictments of government officials close to Christie, and a guilty plea from a Port Authority ally.

After initially insisting he didn’t know if the aide— his current chief-of-staff Regina Ega— had ever sent him a text message (http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/08/christie_bridge_scandal_governor_says_he_cant_reme mber_egea_text.html), this is how the governor responded to questions about the fishy missing texts: “If it was of any moment or import I would have remembered it.”

Sounds an awful lot like “trust me none of it had to do with the bridge,” no?

http://gizmodo.com/uh-did-chris-christie-forget-about-the-time-he-deleted-1724791857?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29

DMX7
08-18-2015, 11:36 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/hillary-clinton-emails-300-screened-121438.html

up to 305 possible emails now.

And still no one cares

CosmicCowboy
08-18-2015, 01:00 PM
And still no one cares

You can bet your ass Bernie cares.

The investigation should just be finishing up and indictments going out just in time for the primary.

z0sa
08-18-2015, 01:04 PM
This makes her Republican.

:lol

DMX7
08-18-2015, 01:22 PM
You can bet your ass Bernie cares.

The investigation should just be finishing up and indictments going out just in time for the primary.

They're not going to Hillary. That's all that matters.

boutons_deux
08-18-2015, 01:24 PM
Benghazi!

death panels!

ACA will destroy America, if Ebola and ISIS don't do it first!

Benghazi!

Vince Foster!

Christmas cards!

Hillary's email server was in bathroom closet!

Benghazi!

whitewater!

Benghazi!

TheSanityAnnex
08-18-2015, 01:25 PM
They're not going to Hillary. That's all that matters.

Don't underestimate Obama's hate for the Clintons.

DMX7
08-18-2015, 01:28 PM
Don't underestimate Obama's hate for the Clintons.

He made Hillary Secretary of State.

z0sa
08-18-2015, 01:29 PM
I'm not sure if I should be happy 2016's most likely president-elect is a ruthless cold hearted two faced lying cun t or not. Maybe she'll get some shit done.

boutons_deux
08-18-2015, 01:46 PM
I'm not sure if I should be happy 2016's most likely president-elect is a ruthless cold hearted two faced lying cun t or not. Maybe she'll get some shit done.

She won't get anything done because the Repugs will obstruct everything to maintain America's rigged status quo for the oligarchy.

CosmicCowboy
08-18-2015, 01:48 PM
He made Hillary Secretary of State.

You never heard the expression "keep your friends close and your enemies closer?"

He did that to avoid getting stabbed in the back by the Clintons.

Clipper Nation
08-18-2015, 02:26 PM
She won't get anything done because the Repugs will obstruct everything to maintain America's rigged status quo for the oligarchy.
:cry "Never mind the fact that Bill Clinton got shit done with an adversarial Congress, never mind the fact that Obummer squandered a Democratic supermajority, Obummer failed because of obstruction!" :cry

:cry "Don't those Repugs know that the legislative branch is supposed to roll over and allow the President to do whatever he wants? Unless the POTUS is a Repug, then they shouldn't be allowed to do anything!" :cry

ChumpDumper
08-18-2015, 02:41 PM
Obama is actually currently having the best second term of any President I can think of offhand.

boutons_deux
08-18-2015, 02:42 PM
Bill Clinton signed a bunch harmful shit the Repugs passed. He didn't really get much progressive stuff done. His initiative to try to kill bin Laden was trashed by the Repugs as distraction from him impeachment.

Clipper Nation
08-18-2015, 09:12 PM
633795122598150144

boutons_deux
08-18-2015, 09:20 PM
"this is amazing", not. it's just another BENGHAZI.

Th'Pusher
08-18-2015, 09:26 PM
633795122598150144
What is it specifically that the average voter is not supposed to be comfortable with?

Clipper Nation
08-18-2015, 09:27 PM
I see Hillary was already dressed for jail today:

633781865619427330

DMX7
08-18-2015, 10:08 PM
^What a stretch....

Clipper Nation
08-18-2015, 10:13 PM
633816359386918912

Blizzardwizard
08-18-2015, 11:03 PM
Shillary :lol

Just another Obama bigcorp shill.

boutons_deux
08-19-2015, 01:14 PM
That's three days I've bought coffee in my local shop when Fox was droning on about Hillary's emails, fantasies, conjectures, suppositions, could be's, might be's, wannabe's. Ailes must really think they've got Hillary supine and rapeable.

Fox and the right-wing hate media absolutely know the only chance, just a chance, of winning the WH is to destroy Hillary, if not in fact, then with months and months of slander, lies, FUD, fabricated controversy.

CosmicCowboy
08-19-2015, 02:35 PM
That's three days I've bought coffee in my local shop when Fox was droning on about Hillary's emails, fantasies, conjectures, suppositions, could be's, might be's, wannabe's. Ailes must really think they've got Hillary supine and rapeable.

Fox and the right-wing hate media absolutely know the only chance, just a chance, of winning the WH is to destroy Hillary, if not in fact, then with months and months of slander, lies, FUD, fabricated controversy.

It's an FBI investigation Boo.

Deal with it.

boutons_deux
08-19-2015, 03:23 PM
Fox felt really insulted, as they were REALLY insulted and ridiculed, by Hillary's "wipe" comment.

boutons_deux
08-19-2015, 03:25 PM
It's an FBI investigation Boo.

Deal with it.

... I bet it goes nowhere, finds nothing, unless Clintons have enemies in FBI, and FBI will get her for political, not legal, objectives.

"FBI investigation" is right up there with FBI shooting dozens of people over decades and NEVER making a mistake.

CosmicCowboy
08-19-2015, 03:29 PM
... I bet it goes nowhere, finds nothing, unless Clintons have enemies in FBI, and FBI will get her for political, not legal, objectives.

"FBI investigation" is right up there with FBI shooting dozens of people over decades and NEVER making a mistake.

Your posts just continue to confirm that you are batshit crazy.

TeyshaBlue
08-19-2015, 03:30 PM
*dizzy*

TheSanityAnnex
08-19-2015, 03:38 PM
633795122598150144

Was this her actual reaction to the question teleprompted?

TheSanityAnnex
08-19-2015, 03:40 PM
That's three days I've bought coffee in my local shop when Fox was droning on about Hillary's emails, fantasies, conjectures, suppositions, could be's, might be's, wannabe's. Ailes must really think they've got Hillary supine and rapeable.

Fox and the right-wing hate media absolutely know the only chance, just a chance, of winning the WH is to destroy Hillary, if not in fact, then with months and months of slander, lies, FUD, fabricated controversy.
How exactly is the right fabricating her wiping her server?

TheSanityAnnex
08-20-2015, 05:36 PM
http://www.caintv.com/state-dept.hey-we-never-issued

Which means whatever device she was using was as insecure as her homebrew server.
I guess this shouldn't be surprising when you think about it. If Hillary was using a homebrew server for all her e-mails, she'd have to get State Department IT help to set up the account on a government-issued computer, right? We already know Hillary wasn't too interested in getting government IT staff mixed up in her personal any type of her business. So why even bother to issue Hillary a computer when she wasn't going to use it anyway? You think she was going to sit there and do work on it?
No way. Hillary was going to use her own device connected to her own server. You try to get away with that at your job and tell me how it goes, but we all know the rules don't apply to America's self-styled royalty:


As the guy from CNET explains, this only further exacerbates the security problems inherent in Hillary's makeshift IT scheme. Anyone who's ever used a work-issued computer understands this. Your employer orders the computer and has it prepared in certain ways to be compatible with what's expected of you in your job. That will include the pre-loading of certain security software and possible blocking software. And in the case of the government, it apparently also includes a rather sophisticated process for marking classified material. In response to a recent column, reader UCrawford, who appears to have some knowledge about this, explained:

Classified and unclassified information are on separate servers entirely. Information classified as SECRET, for example, would never be processed on an unclassified system not rated to handle classification. You can move unclassified data up to a classified system through transferrable media fairly easily (the media would have to be approved and scanned for viruses, malware, etc). But for classified data to move down to an unclassified system, it's not just about removing markings and doing a virus scan on the thumbdrive...the data itself would have to be scrubbed of all classified references/sources/information, approved through a declassification authority, and transferred to an entirely different portable media (any unclassified thumb drive plugged into a TOP SECRET system, for example, would automatically be classified TOP SECRET and could never be plugged into an unclassified system again). It's a cumbersome process and most requests to declassify current TS data (which she's accused of having on her system) are automatically rejected because the chance of spillage is so great. And nobody would authorize TS data that hadn't been scrubbed to go to a unclassified government system...and especially not a personal system. Would never happen.
If Clinton had multiple instances of TS data on her unencrypted personal server, there's simply no way it was ever approved for transfer. Zero chance of that being a simple mistake or someone just deleting classification markings. They would have a) had to have been given access to a classified network (meaning they were briefed on proper procedure, thoroughly and repeatedly), b) put some kind of portable media into the network (illegal unless approved by the security officer...which is very unlikely), and c) downloaded classified data to it, removing the portion markings (highly illegal...and clearly explained as such to anyone with a clearance). Most people would be arrested and charged immediately for doing that if caught. In most cases, the server would be immediately seized as soon as it was recognized that classified data had been placed on it. And Clinton would have been briefed on proper procedure about classified as well, and is responsible for the behavior of all people operating under her instructions. There is zero chance she did not know that transferring data to her home server was illegal...procedure is spelled out in every single document she signed for her clearance and access.
So on top of all this, she was also operating outside the security of this system by using her own device as well as her own server.
The funniest thing about all this is that you know perfectly well Hillary set all this up to avoid public scrutiny of her e-mails. How did that work out? Now she's going to get more public scrutiny than she ever dreamed of. Some smart woman this is. Tell me again the rationale for electing her?

TheSanityAnnex
08-20-2015, 05:48 PM
for the younger voters.... here is a bit of Hillary I am betting you wont remember...

Many people who may vote in the democratic primary election and the general election in 2016 have no real knowledge of Mrs. Clinton or her accomplishments. As a public service, I thought I would provide some input regarding her triumphs for consideration.

When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over a health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she couldn’t even get a vote in a democratic controlled congress. This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million in cost for studies, promotion, and other efforts.

Then President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood – both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. Next she chose Janet Reno – husband Bill described her selection as “my worst mistake.” Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.

Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guanier was her selection. When a little probing led to the discovered of Ms. Guanier’s radical views, her name had to be withdrawn from consideration.

Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some more recommendations. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department. Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.
Many younger voters will have no knowledge of “Travelgate.” Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson – and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired. This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a thirty-six month investigation. Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a crime, and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours
Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House. Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.

Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the “bimbo eruption” and scandal defense. Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle were:
· She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones.
· She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr’s investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.
· Hillary’s devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to practice law for lying under oath to a grand jury and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.
· Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, “I do not recall,” “I have no recollection,” and “I don’t know” a total of 56 times while under oath.
· After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that she had stolen.

Now we are exposed to: the destruction of possibly incriminating emails while Hillary was Secretary of State and the “pay to play” schemes of the Clinton Foundation – we have no idea what shoe will fall next. But to her loyal fans – “what difference does it make?” - Author unknown

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 03:22 AM
Why is the author unknown?

boutons_deux
08-21-2015, 01:25 PM
CNN Busts Darrell Issa For Lying About Classified Hillary Clinton Emails

REP. DARRELL ISSA (R), CALIFORNIA: Well, Wolf, the one thing we now know is that, as they said, about 300 separate e-mails, maybe more, contain classified information. And I think it’s important to get above the discussion of classified documents and so on. If you or I go to a briefing, and we receive classified information, and we then produce an e-mail that says things that were in that briefing, that is disclosing classified information. That appears to be what happened.….

It’s not an accident to have 300 e-mails become retroactively, if you will, determined to be classified. That means somebody sent out classified information and did not recognize it as classified.

Huma, her assistant, her second daughter, :lol WTF? if you will, is brilliant. Hillary Clinton is brilliant. So the question is, are people that smart unable to recognize sensitive classified information? I don’t believe so.

And I think the FBI needs to look at this, because in fact her server may very well have been constantly observed by third parties, because quite candidly it’s not a classified network. It didn’t enjoy the robust protection that one would expect to have.



BLITZER: Well, my understanding is those 300 e-mails they’re looking at now, that they haven’t definitively ruled that it was classified information. They’re going over it right now. There seems to be a dispute going on between the State Department and other agencies of the U.S. government what should have been classified, even if it had not been classified at the time. Is that your understanding, as well?

ISSA: Well, it is. But I’ll give you a little piece of history. During my chairmanship, it was amazing how the State Department classified the most mundane information, even when publicly available. In this case, it appears as though State would like to say these things weren’t particularly classified.

Well, the CIA and NSA and other clandestine agencies appear to be appalled that very sensitive information was sent out on her nongovernment server in an unclassified format.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/08/21/cnn-busts-darrell-issa-lying-classified-hillary-clinton-emails.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

:lol Holy shit, this 0.1%er asshole Issa is SO fucking dumb

TheSanityAnnex
08-21-2015, 01:41 PM
Why is the author unknown?
Don't know and does it matter or make any of what was said untrue?

Winehole23
08-21-2015, 02:29 PM
get ready for Joe Biden. this one might have legs.


For months, the U.S. State Department has stood behind its former boss Hillary Clinton as she has repeatedly said she did not send or receive classified information on her unsecured, private email account, a practice the government forbids.

While the department is now stamping a few dozen of the publicly released emails as "Classified," it stresses this is not evidence of rule-breaking. Those stamps are new, it says, and do not mean the information was classified when Clinton, the Democratic frontrunner in the 2016 presidential election, first sent or received it.


But the details included in those "Classified" stamps — which include a string of dates, letters and numbers describing the nature of the classification — appear to undermine this account, a Reuters examination of the emails and the relevant regulations has found.


The new stamps indicate that some of Clinton's emails from her time as the nation's most senior diplomat are filled with a type of information the U.S. government and the department's own regulations automatically deems classified from the get-go — regardless of whether it is already marked that way or not.


In the small fraction of emails made public so far, Reuters has found at least 30 email threads from 2009, representing scores of individual emails, that include what the State Department's own "Classified" stamps now identify as so-called 'foreign government information.' The U.S. government defines this as any information, written or spoken, provided in confidence to U.S. officials by their foreign counterparts.


This sort of information, which the department says Clinton both sent and received in her emails, is the only kind that must be "presumed" classified, in part to protect national security and the integrity of diplomatic interactions, according to U.S. regulations examined by Reuters.


"It's born classified," said J. William Leonard, a former director of the U.S. government's Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO). Leonard was director of ISOO, part of the White House's National Archives and Records Administration, from 2002 until 2008, and worked for both the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations.


"If a foreign minister just told the secretary of state something in confidence, by U.S. rules that is classified at the moment it's in U.S. channels and U.S. possession," he said in a telephone interview, adding that for the State Department to say otherwise was "blowing smoke."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/21/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

CosmicCowboy
08-21-2015, 02:31 PM
get ready for Joe Biden. this one might have legs.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/21/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

well, DUHHHH.

You just figuring that out?

I'm still calling Biden/Warren as the 2016 Democrat ticket.

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 03:09 PM
Don't know and does it matter or make any of what was said untrue?How does it make any of it true?

CosmicCowboy
08-21-2015, 03:28 PM
I remembered most of them but had forgotten about them stealing all that shit from the White House...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=121856


After they were criticized for taking $190,000 worth of china, flatware, rugs, televisions, sofas and other gifts with them when they left, the Clintons announced last week that they would pay for $86,000 worth of gifts, or nearly half the amount.

Their latest decision to send back $28,000 in gifts brings to $114,000 the value of items the Clintons have either decided to pay for or return.

TheSanityAnnex
08-21-2015, 03:44 PM
How does it make any of it true?

Are you saying it is untrue?

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 03:46 PM
Are you saying it is untrue?I'm asking who wrote it.

Calm down. You're as snarky as the article you posted.

TheSanityAnnex
08-21-2015, 03:58 PM
I'm asking who wrote it.

Calm down. You're as snarky as the article you posted.

Since when is asking you to clarify considered snark?

Do you want to dispute what was written or deflect and go in circles asking who author unknown is?

spurraider21
08-21-2015, 05:37 PM
FBI treats Clinton case as potential criminal investigation, sources say
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/8/19/fbi-treating-clinton-emails-as-a-potential-criminal-investigation.html

TheSanityAnnex
08-21-2015, 05:42 PM
FBI treats Clinton case as potential criminal investigation, sources say


http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/8/19/fbi-treating-clinton-emails-as-a-potential-criminal-investigation.html

Don't be an asshole too.

Just answer my question -- have any laws been broken? I haven't been following this much and I'm sure the super conservative internet sleuths of SpursTalk have investigated this thoroughly.

Or are you too busy fapping at newsmax to tell?

TheSanityAnnex
08-21-2015, 05:47 PM
Oh wow would you look at that.



18 U.S.C. 1924 - UNAUTHORIZED REMOVAL AND RETENTION OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS OR MATERIAL

(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.

(b) For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).

(c) In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security







http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/8/19/fbi-treating-clinton-emails-as-a-potential-criminal-investigation.html

But as Al Jazeera’s story points out, a violation of the relevant criminal code statute (18 USC Section 1924 (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/USCODE-2011-title18/USCODE-2011-title18-partI-chap93-sec1924)) does not require that material be marked or stamped as “classified.” In other words, Clinton's public defense may help her politically, but it wouldn’t necessarily suffice in the event of a criminal case.

CosmicCowboy
08-21-2015, 05:50 PM
Chump will now say that Al Jazeera is only a reputable source when it reports on things he wants reported on.

Winehole23
08-21-2015, 06:16 PM
well, DUHHHH.

You just figuring that out?nope. been saying so for about as long as you have.

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 07:26 PM
Since when is asking you to clarify considered snark?Everything you are doing in this thread is snarky. just own it.


Do you want to dispute what was written or deflect and go in circles asking who author unknown is?Just say you don't know who your snarky hero du jour is.

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 07:27 PM
Oh wow would you look at that.






http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/8/19/fbi-treating-clinton-emails-as-a-potential-criminal-investigation.html

But as Al Jazeera’s story points out, a violation of the relevant criminal code statute (18 USC Section 1924 (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/USCODE-2011-title18/USCODE-2011-title18-partI-chap93-sec1924)) does not require that material be marked or stamped as “classified.” In other words, Clinton's public defense may help her politically, but it wouldn’t necessarily suffice in the event of a criminal case.So do you think that law has been broken?

Snarky dodge duly noted in advance.

TheSanityAnnex
08-21-2015, 07:34 PM
Everything you are doing in this thread is snarky. just own it.

Just say you don't know who your snarky hero du jour is.Everything you are doing in this thread is deflecting. Just own it.

What does "author unknown" mean?

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 07:39 PM
Everything you are doing in this thread is deflecting. Just own it.I don't have a dog in this fight. You do and you're terrified to say anything.


What does "author unknown" mean?Exactly. Why would no one want to claim that?

Snarky.

TheSanityAnnex
08-21-2015, 07:39 PM
So do you think that law has been broken?

Snarky dodge duly noted in advance.

It's very possible, why do you think the FBI is investigating?

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 07:40 PM
It's very possible, why do you think the FBI is investigating?Dodge already acknowledged.

TheSanityAnnex
08-21-2015, 07:41 PM
I don't have a dog in this fight. You do and you're terrified to say anything.

Exactly. Why would no one want to claim that?

Snarky.

Terrified? Dude you really take the internet and this website too seriously.

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 07:42 PM
Terrified? Dude you really take the internet and this website too seriously.Snarky.

TheSanityAnnex
08-21-2015, 07:43 PM
Dodge already acknowledged.
Why do you think the FBI is investigating?

spurraider21
08-21-2015, 07:44 PM
Why do you think the FBI is investigating?
They're being snarky.

Clipper Nation
08-21-2015, 07:45 PM
Snarky.
^ Cuck alert. ^

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 07:47 PM
^ Cuck alert. ^^ unoriginal follower alert ^

Clipper Nation
08-21-2015, 07:47 PM
^ unorgiinal follower alert ^
Keep on cuckin'.

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 07:48 PM
Keep on cuckin'.Actually that would mean the opposite of what you want it to mean.

Ask the people you copied this shtick from.

Clipper Nation
08-21-2015, 07:59 PM
Actually that would mean the opposite of what you want it to mean.

Ask the people you copied this shtick from.
Actually you're a cuck, David.

TheSanityAnnex
08-21-2015, 07:59 PM
You going to answer my question chump or continue to derail the thread now that you have the opportunity to go back and forth with someone else

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 08:01 PM
Actually you're a cuck, David.Aw David, don't get angry at me because you too ignorant to use the terms correctly.

Leave it to the people who actually know what they are doing. You can quote them and put a :lol after it like a good little follower tho. That's your ceiling.

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 08:02 PM
You going to answer my question chump or continue to derail the thread now that you have the opportunity to go back and forth with someone elseI actually think some of the rules and laws were broken, dumbass.

Clipper Nation
08-21-2015, 08:06 PM
Aw David, don't get angry at me because you too ignorant to use the terms correctly.

Leave it to the people who actually know what they are doing. You can quote them and put a :lol after it like a good little follower tho. That's your ceiling.
Too cucked; didn't read.

ChumpDumper
08-21-2015, 08:07 PM
Too cucked; didn't read.Thanks for admitting you are cucked tho.

TheSanityAnnex
08-21-2015, 08:15 PM
I actually think some of the rules and laws were broken, dumbass.
Which ones. Be specific.

dbestpro
08-22-2015, 04:06 PM
Reminds me of how Lizzie Bordan burned her dress. She got off, but no one ever believed her.

Clipper Nation
08-22-2015, 04:10 PM
634699965193957376

:lol Pathetic