Honestly God sounds like a D..

[apalisoc_9]

Sorry, just finished arguing with my girl and it's 5am here.

Why don't religious people freaking understand that I don't want to be part of your religion? Freaking bitch been aggressively trying to sell her church the last few months and it's getting in my nerves. I hate homosexuals, I actually don't think evoultion is the start and end of all, but that doesn't mean I'd have to convert to your stupid ass church belief.

I asked her, "If God was so Great, then Why the F does he treat humans like absolute shit. So God made devils, who are going to suffer because they are devils..well newsflash, the devil you made..you made them that way. and now you're going to punish them?

I have a blood on face from getting slapped for questioning God's existence... I'm to classy to fight back and I would never hit a woman.

I'm just going to leave and be with my family first...Fuming right now.

She thinks she can just throw shit at me like that and slap me and think I'm not going to consider breaking up with her? Bitch I don't care if you're beautiful and have a good job, i don't give a shit..Many other good looking girls out there..You ain't special

[Reck]

LOL

You cant challenge her beliefs like that. Just say you're not interested in religion, period.

When you start challenging her like well how come this and that. Nothing good will come out of that discussion.

Seems to me you're the one lashing out scrah. :lol

[Mark Celibate]

Certainly that Romanian bitch would never slap you in the face tbh. Religious girls are good ones to get married to and they're hard to find in today's society, so if your sure she's the right one that you'd like to live with for lifelong you may as well show more leniency and patience. If you just wanna have fun with her, however, the best you can do is put an end to it since a girl who's so religious would probably not have sex until she gets married. I mean you ain't having no fun anyway so don't waste no more time son, and don't act like she is so good that just looking at her is satisfying enough for you (like Scarlett for me and Reck).

[Koolaid_Man]

Sorry, just finished arguing with my girl and it's 5am here.

Why don't religious people freaking understand that I don't want to be part of your religion? Freaking bitch been aggressively trying to sell her church the last few months and it's getting in my nerves. I hate homosexuals, I actually don't think evoultion is the start and end of all, but that doesn't mean I'd have to convert to your stupid ass church belief.

I asked her, "If God was so Great, then Why the F does he treat humans like absolute shit. So God made devils, who are going to suffer because they are devils..well newsflash, the devil you made..you made them that way. and now you're going to punish them?

I have a blood on face from getting slapped for questioning God's existence... I'm to classy to fight back and I would never hit a woman.

I'm just going to leave and be with my family first...Fuming right now.

She thinks she can just throw shit at me like that and slap me and think I'm not going to consider breaking up with her? Bitch I don't care if you're beautiful and have a good job, i don't give a shit..Many other good looking girls out there..You ain't special


It's so like you to get bitch slapped....to be honest I hope she did it with a backhand....:lol

[RandomGuy]

Sorry, just finished arguing with my girl and it's 5am here.

Why don't religious people freaking understand that I don't want to be part of your religion? Freaking bitch been aggressively trying to sell her church the last few months and it's getting in my nerves. I hate homosexuals, I actually don't think evoultion is the start and end of all, but that doesn't mean I'd have to convert to your stupid ass church belief.

I asked her, "If God was so Great, then Why the F does he treat humans like absolute shit. So God made devils, who are going to suffer because they are devils..well newsflash, the devil you made..you made them that way. and now you're going to punish them?

I have a blood on face from getting slapped for questioning God's existence... I'm to classy to fight back and I would never hit a woman.

I'm just going to leave and be with my family first...Fuming right now.

She thinks she can just throw shit at me like that and slap me and think I'm not going to consider breaking up with her? Bitch I don't care if you're beautiful and have a good job, i don't give a shit..Many other good looking girls out there..You ain't special

Sorry to hear about the fight, it sounds like a deal breaker indeed. People tend to not like it when you point out their diety of choice had to have created evil, and the suffering in the world.

10 million children die from diarrhea every year. Does God tell his followers to commit to clean drinking water for everybody?

No. He tells his followers to give money to televangelists, so they can buy $65 million dollar jets, or to give tax breaks to million dollar mansions.

Or alternately, convert them to christianity, because saving souls is more important in this world view than stopping misery. That is actually rational under a belief system that says immortal souls exist. Life is a place to wipe your feet, while you wait for death, so you can praise the same being who causes so much misery for all eternity. Sheesh, what a narcissist.


Kill Men, Women, and Children
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)
(or you could go with the destruction of Ai, basically the same M.O., from the book of joshua)

Ordering your followers to massacre men, women, and children, is pretty dickish.

So is this, the ultimate dick move:

8And the LORD said unto Moses and unto Aaron, Take to you handfuls of ashes of the furnace, and let Moses sprinkle it toward the heaven in the sight of Pharaoh. 9And it shall become small dust in all the land of Egypt, and shall be a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast, throughout all the land of Egypt. 10And they took ashes of the furnace, and stood before Pharaoh; and Moses sprinkled it up toward heaven; and it became a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast. 11And the magicians could not stand before Moses because of the boils; for the boil was upon the magicians, and upon all the Egyptians. 12And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.

God wanted the israelites freed from Egypt.
God plagues and kills Egyptians to make this happen.
Instead of using his power to tip the Egyptian leaders decision to let the Israelites go, he uses it to make the Egyptian leader more stubborn.
God then plagues and kills more Egyptians.

A more lengthy bit here:

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/faithbased/2011/04/sympathy_for_the_pharaoh.html


Just my take. I wouldn't worship that, even if it were true. Bible God is a monster.

Hope you do better next time.

[Blake]

Lol 5am alcohol induced philosophical debates. Those always end well.

[Brazil]

I hate homosexuals

racist
homophobic

damn... what a nice person you are

racist philipino homofob

[BD24]

racist
homophobic

damn... what a nice person you are

racist philipino homofob
But fucking your aunt is ok. Anyway we can add this to the list of meltdowns. Will be nice bump material at some point I imagine.

BTW you can post those screenshots of his messages to Bruno anytime Brazil. Hoping he pushes you over the edge when you had a bad day at work or something and you do it :lol

[RandomGuy]

Lol 5am alcohol induced philosophical debates. Those always end well.

heh, sounds like a good time to me...

[SnakeBoy]

Sorry, just finished arguing with my girl and it's 5am here.

Why don't religious people freaking understand that I don't want to be part of your religion? Freaking bitch been aggressively trying to sell her church the last few months and it's getting in my nerves. I hate homosexuals, I actually don't think evoultion is the start and end of all, but that doesn't mean I'd have to convert to your stupid ass church belief.

I asked her, "If God was so Great, then Why the F does he treat humans like absolute shit. So God made devils, who are going to suffer because they are devils..well newsflash, the devil you made..you made them that way. and now you're going to punish them?

I have a blood on face from getting slapped for questioning God's existence... I'm to classy to fight back and I would never hit a woman.

I'm just going to leave and be with my family first...Fuming right now.

She thinks she can just throw shit at me like that and slap me and think I'm not going to consider breaking up with her? Bitch I don't care if you're beautiful and have a good job, i don't give a shit..Many other good looking girls out there..You ain't special

It's a good thing ST exists and gives you a place to say the things you're too scared to say to her face.

Let us know when you tell her "I'm so sorry honey"

[apalisoc_9]

LOL

You cant challenge her beliefs like that. Just say you're not interested in religion, period.

When you start challenging her like well how come this and that. Nothing good will come out of that discussion.

Seems to me you're the one lashing out scrah. :lol

What happened to the delete thread function?

Maybe I was wrong. Honestly, those weren't the only things that came out of my mouth.

she called me to apologize so we're good. I'll try to keep my cool.

I just wish she stops bothering me with religion. It gets annoying.

[BD24]

I just wish she stops bothering me with religion. It gets annoying.
Religious people are some pushy mother fuckers. I could never be with someone who is like super about god, there ideals on life would just conflict far to much with mine.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Sorry to hear about the fight, it sounds like a deal breaker indeed. People tend to not like it when you point out their diety of choice had to have created evil, and the suffering in the world.

10 million children die from diarrhea every year. Does God tell his followers to commit to clean drinking water for everybody?

No. He tells his followers to give money to televangelists, so they can buy $65 million dollar jets, or to give tax breaks to million dollar mansions.

Or alternately, convert them to christianity, because saving souls is more important in this world view than stopping misery. That is actually rational under a belief system that says immortal souls exist. Life is a place to wipe your feet, while you wait for death, so you can praise the same being who causes so much misery for all eternity. Sheesh, what a narcissist.


(or you could go with the destruction of Ai, basically the same M.O., from the book of joshua)

Ordering your followers to massacre men, women, and children, is pretty dickish.

So is this, the ultimate dick move:


God wanted the israelites freed from Egypt.
God plagues and kills Egyptians to make this happen.
Instead of using his power to tip the Egyptian leaders decision to let the Israelites go, he uses it to make the Egyptian leader more stubborn.
God then plagues and kills more Egyptians.

A more lengthy bit here:

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/faithbased/2011/04/sympathy_for_the_pharaoh.html


Just my take. I wouldn't worship that, even if it were true. Bible God is a monster.

Hope you do better next time.

I'm not religious nor am I an atheist, I'm in the don't have time to worry about it crowd. Why does it seem like atheists know more about the bible than Christians?

[K...]

If you are anti gay might are well be religious cause you have no defense of anti gay without God.

Basically we know your a dumb shit that has enough going right in house life not to realize your dumb shittery.

If you want to know..... There is no proof you, i, or random martyrs exist. There is no proof good doesn't intervene to protect sufferers.

The theory goes, those who suffer are now likely to be taken to heaven because suffering expresses human virtue much better than richness.

Basically everyone on America is going to hell. Canadians too now that your a dumb petro democracy. Should just go full Philippino and converr to Catholics.



Basically, you are going to hell for pathetic trolling. Save yourself, impress your gf

[DMC]

Just feign belief until she sucks your cock. It works for priests.

[SnakeBoy]

10 million children die from diarrhea every year. Does God tell his followers to commit to clean drinking water for everybody?

No. He tells his followers to give money to televangelists, so they can buy $65 million dollar jets, or to give tax breaks to million dollar mansions.



You blame a God you don't believe in for diarrhea and you think He tells people to give their money to televangelists...sounds logical.

[Buddy Mignon]

LOL

You cant challenge her beliefs like that. Just say you're not interested in religion, period.

When you start challenging her like well how come this and that. Nothing good will come out of that discussion.

Seems to me you're the one lashing out scrah. :lol


Yes you can... I took a girls bible and tossed in the waste basket. We fucked later that night.

[Buddy Mignon]

If you are anti gay might are well be religious cause you have no defense of anti gay without God.

Basically we know your a dumb shit that has enough going right in house life not to realize your dumb shittery.

If you want to know..... There is no proof you, i, or random martyrs exist. There is no proof good doesn't intervene to protect sufferers.

The theory goes, those who suffer are now likely to be taken to heaven because suffering expresses human virtue much better than richness.

Basically everyone on America is going to hell. Canadians too now that your a dumb petro democracy. Should just go full Philippino and converr to Catholics.



Basically, you are going to hell for pathetic trolling. Save yourself, impress your gf


That's not true. No normal man would agree to allow another man to fuck him up the ass. There has to be some mental issue there. If its perfectly normal would you allow a man to fuck you in the ass?

[Reck]

Yes you can... I took a girls bible and tossed in the waste basket. We fucked later that night.

While marathoning naruro, amirite habib?

[Jesus]

Sorry, just finished arguing with my girl and it's 5am here.

Why don't religious people freaking understand that I don't want to be part of your religion? Freaking bitch been aggressively trying to sell her church the last few months and it's getting in my nerves. I hate homosexuals, I actually don't think evoultion is the start and end of all, but that doesn't mean I'd have to convert to your stupid ass church belief.

I asked her, "If God was so Great, then Why the F does he treat humans like absolute shit. So God made devils, who are going to suffer because they are devils..well newsflash, the devil you made..you made them that way. and now you're going to punish them?

I have a blood on face from getting slapped for questioning God's existence... I'm to classy to fight back and I would never hit a woman.

I'm just going to leave and be with my family first...Fuming right now.

She thinks she can just throw shit at me like that and slap me and think I'm not going to consider breaking up with her? Bitch I don't care if you're beautiful and have a good job, i don't give a shit..Many other good looking girls out there..You ain't special

Sucks when truth slaps you across the face.

[Chinook]

If you are anti gay might are well be religious cause you have no defense of anti gay without God.

Straight ignorant. Despite what a lot of atheists imply here, religion is not the root of hate. It's just one of the many lenses for it. You can cook up a buffet of reasons for hating gay people that are just as half-baked as the bible crap.

[Chinook]

I'm not religious nor am I an atheist, I'm in the don't have time to worry about it crowd. Why does it seem like atheists know more about the bible than Christians?

Very hard to be religious if you really know what that religion entails. You either have to be one of those people who is in constant damage-control (interpreters) or someone who just doesn't give a damn (literalists, who have a measure of respect from me for not backing down).

[Chinook]

Anyway, Apa, I don't think you should take too much offense to it. If she's religious and cares about you she HAS to keep trying to convert you. She's trying to save your soul, and that's sweet in a naive sort of way. You have to ask yourself if being with her is worth it long-term. If not, peace out. If so, then you guys need to have a serious talk about boundaries and compromise. There's no particular reason to keep ignoring it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if these deitys/gods do exists, how come they never get down from their chair/cross and bitchslap the turd begging to be forgiven for their sins against society...fck these clowns

[Blake]

That's not true. No normal man would agree to allow another man to fuck him up the ass. There has to be some mental issue there. If its perfectly normal would you allow a man to fuck you in the ass?

define normal sex

[RandomGuy]

You blame a God you don't believe in for diarrhea and you think He tells people to give their money to televangelists...sounds logical.

https://realitybloger.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/strawman-full.jpg

Let me lay out in a bit more detail, as the actual arguments I made seem to have eluded you. I will assume your distortion of what I think is simply ignorance, as opposed to active dishonesty, although active dishonesty is fairly common among people apologizing for the flaws in their holy books.

I do not "blame a God" I don't believe in for diarrhea deaths of 10 million children every year. I blame microorganisms, human ignorance, and poverty for those deaths. I merely pointed out, in short-hand form, that bible god, should such a thing exist would be to blame instead.

Generally, most Christians hold that "God has a plan" for everything, and everything moves according to this plan. If the God of the bible has the attributes described in the bible, then everything that happens, good or bad, could easily be foreseen by this entity, much in the same way that I might foresee a bullet coming out of the barrel of a loaded gun, after I pull the trigger. I am intelligent enough to predict/know the consequences of that action. That action might be morally right/wrong, depending on where that gun is pointed.

Bible God therefore, could reasonably foresee the harm and misery of his actions, and that would include those deaths, among other harms and evils that are visited on humans on a constant basis.

This is not a new argument, and is commonly known as "the problem of evil". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil

You could also imagine such a being at the point where it would have to decide what kind of universe to create:
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As for what god says or wants, since I don't really see any evidence that such a thing is real, I have to rely on what people who do believe such a thing exists to tell me what it wants. It appears to want us to give assholes money, among other things. (http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/13/living/creflo-dollar-jet-feat/)

Jon Oliver recently noted a few other examples of god telling us to give money to assholes, instead of things that might bring clean water to human beings:
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Now, I hope that clears it up. If you were intending to be actively dishonest, I would then ask, what kind of belief system worth having requires dishonesty to sustain itself?

[RandomGuy]

I'm not religious nor am I an atheist, I'm in the don't have time to worry about it crowd. Why does it seem like atheists know more about the bible than Christians?

Many atheists became atheists because they read the bible. It really is a moral abomination, once one stops making excuses or cherry picking the nicest bits.

Most Christians read the parts they like, the nice ones, and remember those, then skim over the murder/rapey parts. Atheists, not having the need to sustain a belief that "god is good, and I am good for worshiping him", don't have that constraint.

[z0sa]

heh, sounds like a good time to me...

Just what I was thinking. Depends on your company of choice, though.

[Avante]

That old moon just hangs there, that little sperm cell has my features. Here we are upside down yet not falling off the planet. How old is the sun?

We just take all that granted, but think about it. How much does the sun weigh and it just hangs there.

Oh hell no there couldn't be some Supreme Being, sheesh~~~~~~~~~

[TheSanityAnnex]

Many atheists became atheists because they read the bible. It really is a moral abomination, once one stops making excuses or cherry picking the nicest bits.

Most Christians read the parts they like, the nice ones, and remember those, then skim over the murder/rapey parts. Atheists, not having the need to sustain a belief that "god is good, and I am good for worshiping him", don't have that constraint.

Thanks. It just always surprises me to see hardcore atheists quoting tons of scripture off the top of their heads. If I were to read something and reject the contents I would not read it again where it seems hardcore atheists not only re-read but thoroughly study the bible just for the sake of arguing with believers. Really makes no sense to me.

[Blake]

Because the supreme being got bored, he created life on this microscopic speck of a speck in a speck part of the universe

[Blake]

Thanks. It just always surprises me to see hardcore atheists quoting tons of scripture off the top of their heads. If I were to read something and reject the contents I would not read it again where it seems hardcore atheists not only re-read but thoroughly study the bible just for the sake of arguing with believers. Really makes no sense to me.

Or a number of them received formal Bible study.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Or a number of them received formal Bible study.

I was forced to go to Sunday school when I was younger and I don't remember shit. At what age are you talking about for this formal bible study?

[Blake]

I was forced to go to Sunday school when I was younger and I don't remember shit. At what age are you talking about for this formal bible study?

K-12 Christian schools, genius.

[TheSanityAnnex]

K-12 Christian schools, genius.
Ratio of attendees converted to hardcore atheists?

[Blake]

Ratio of attendees converted to hardcore atheists?

Dunno, but there's a number. There's also a number of formally educated preachers turned atheists.

But don't move the goalposts. You're asking why so many atheists know the Bible. I'm giving you one reason why many of them do.

[BD24]

Thanks. It just always surprises me to see hardcore atheists quoting tons of scripture off the top of their heads. If I were to read something and reject the contents I would not read it again where it seems hardcore atheists not only re-read but thoroughly study the bible just for the sake of arguing with believers. Really makes no sense to me.
I can't quote bible verses and what not. I do know far more about the bible/Christianity than most Christians though tbh. I was raised in a catholic church and went to Sunday school from an early age until like 13 or 14, was baptized, confirmed and all of that bs. There eventually came a point though where I thought this is just a load of bullshit. At first I just said well I believe in god, just not what the church teaches. Then I went to saying well there is some form of supreme being, I just don't know what it is. Eventually I just fully embraced that there is no god.

There is atheist like the ones you mention though. I like to call them the ass hole atheist. They are the ones if you say you believe will go out of their way to try and piss you off/make you feel stupid. I personally have decided that I don't believe in god. I am fine with others believing in god, just don't try to force it down my throat. I have my beliefs and others are entitled to theirs.

[Blake]

So why would an atheist know more about religion than a Christian?

American atheists and agnostics tend to be people who grew up in a religious tradition and consciously gave it up, often after a great deal of reflection and study, said Alan Cooperman, associate director for research at the Pew Forum.

"These are people who thought a lot about religion," he said. "They're not indifferent. They care about it."

Atheists and agnostics also tend to be relatively well educated, and the survey found, not surprisingly, that the most knowledgeable people were also the best educated. However, it said that atheists and agnostics also outperformed believers who had a similar level of education."

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/28/nation/la-na-religion-survey-20100928

[TheSanityAnnex]

Dunno, but there's a number. There's also a number of formally educated preachers turned atheists.

But don't move the goalposts. You're asking why so many atheists know the Bible. I'm giving you one reason why many of them do.
I'm not moving the goalposts or trying to argue your reasoning. I'm just genuinely curious.

[Blake]

I'm not moving the goalposts or trying to argue your reasoning. I'm just genuinely curious.

K, I'm not sure where you'd find such stats. Probably not far off of total US population stats tho.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Straight ignorant. Despite what a lot of atheists imply here, religion is not the root of hate. It's just one of the many lenses for it. You can cook up a buffet of reasons for hating gay people that are just as half-baked as the bible crap.

What's half baked is this notion that it's all one way or another. Paul and the Levites taught it and they were the Church. That is a cause then just as it is now. They even wrote it down for us.

[RandomGuy]

Thanks. It just always surprises me to see hardcore atheists quoting tons of scripture off the top of their heads. If I were to read something and reject the contents I would not read it again where it seems hardcore atheists not only re-read but thoroughly study the bible just for the sake of arguing with believers. Really makes no sense to me.

Having my model of the world be true is important to me. Given the harm I see religion doing, it seems important to point out the logical flaws in various religions. If you see someone harming themselves or others, wouldn't you think you had some small duty to stop that harm?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Having my model of the world be true is important to me. Given the harm I see religion doing, it seems important to point out the logical flaws in various religions. If you see someone harming themselves or others, wouldn't you think you had some small duty to stop that harm?
I grew up in a very Christian home. Grandpa was a Lutheran pastor, aunt is a pastor, very "Christian" family as a whole. I've never witnessed any harm done from my Christian family, quite the opposite. Very limited sample size I'm working with and I've also never been around crazy Christians. All of the Christians I've met have been nothing but good people.

[RD2191]

You blame a God you don't believe in for diarrhea and you think He tells people to give their money to televangelists...sounds logical.

/thread

[Quetzal-X]

Honestly God sounds like a ...Black Man tbqfh

[JoeChalupa]

To me it doesn't matter what an atheist or anyone else knows or thinks about the Bible or if they think God and religion is bullshit.

[BD24]

To me it doesn't matter what an atheist or anyone else knows or thinks about the Bible or if they think God and religion is bullshit.
Good for you, be your own man :toast

[Avante]

There is a reason most people who have walked this planet had a God. There is a reason we have...

In God We Trust
One Nation Under God
Easter
Christmas
So Help Me God
I Swear To God
Mormons
Pentecostals
Muslims
Jehovah Witnesses
Hinduism
Buddism
Catholics
Holy Wars
Baptists
Abilene Christian
Oklahoma Baptist
Notre Dame
Texas Christian
Dallas Baptist
BYU
Lutheran

That is what human beings want in their life. Those who don't get it are few, so who cares about then.