Is Danny Green a system player?

[Walter Donovan]

A simple yes or no will suffice.

[Chinook]

Probably would, but I'd much rather write a longer answer. Tune in a 9 EST for an update.

[Brian Windhorst]

I don't see how he's all that different from a Thabo Sefalosha, who has had success for two different teams and two different systems.

[Brian Windhorst]

That being said, it seems like something about Pop reigns in something about Danny that was keeping him from being an NBA player before.

[RD2191]

Spurs system is a myth imo.

[Mikeanaro]

Yes he is, Danny is our most systemish player ever and it works.

[Mikeanaro]

NOT THE MAIN REASON
THE TRUTH IS HIS BALL HANDLING IS EVEN WORSE THAN LEOANRD,INCONSITENT,CAN'T MADE A LAYUPS,BAD MID RANGE SHOOTER,UNRELIABLE
Sure, not always works but he was a nobody in Cleveland and a big player in SA thats why I think he is the biggest system player we have, 3&D.
Too bad he is so inconsistent.

[K...]

Anyone who voted for systems player doesn't understand basketball.

He makes shots. Open shots. Really well. That works in every, every, every system.

He defends. Moves well, Really well. That works in every, every, every system.


Fuck you player fans for trying to minimize the talent of the other less glamorous part of our perimeter defensive talent. It's so very causal fan to like Kawhi and his blocks and dunks but make open shots and pressure your man and your dead to them.

[K...]

Sure, not always works but he was a nobody in Cleveland and a big player in SA thats why I think he is the biggest system player we have, 3&D.
Too bad he is so inconsistent.

uh, how about 3-4 years of maturity and practice. Isn't it great how the spurs system naturally aged him to his physical peak?

How do you not understand that Green is a player forged in hardship like Kawhi. That Cleveland fucking around led him to work his ass off. If he came from NC to the spurs at first he probably would have been the same jack off he was in Cleveland.

[K...]

you want a systems player? Try Kawhi on offense........................................... ....................tbh

[Mikeanaro]

uh, how about 3-4 years of maturity and practice. Isn't it great how the spurs system naturally aged him to his physical peak?

How do you not understand that Green is a player forged in hardship like Kawhi. That Cleveland fucking around led him to work his ass off. If he came from NC to the spurs at first he probably would have been the same jack off he was in Cleveland.
Yeah man but not every player gets cut just like that, PATFO saw some potential and he came aboard like they did with other guys, Danny cant even dribble the ball but turned out to be a great addition for our team, he is a product of SA development system, Im not sure about that NC from SA thing Spurs are much better than other teams developing players Danny had confidence issues and CLE didnt have patience so they kicked him out, maybe in SA practices he was draining threes and everyone was WTF!?

Kawhi is a hard worker too but was on another level, I think Kiwi on other team would have much better stats as a main scorer even if the team is a mess strategically speaking because he is physically gifted to play ball, Danny on the other hand out of SA could have confidence issues, get inconsistent and do horrible things, he is a great addition for us, but he is a limited player cant shoot from everywhere doesnt have lots of moves etc, he is trained to work in a Spurs enviroment, thats why I say he is our biggest system player.

[apalisoc_9]

I'm too lazy to make a long post

but Danny Green is between System and Star player.

Everyone is really a system player, but from what most fans imply..A system player is someone that thrives under a particular system.

Danny Green's Defense will thrive regardless where he plays. His shooting might take a dip, but most teams now can find the open corner three.

[100%duncan]

Danny Green will be Danny Green in any team today

[apalisoc_9]

I guess, Danny is a super role player...He's like Tyson chandler or a Draymond Green.

[Richie]

Absolutely. He catches and shoots, that's it. He has to be in a system where team mates can get him good looks.

[Spurtacular]

Not to take anything away from Green; Spurs system maximizes his talents.

[100%duncan]

but he won't start unless he plays for the spurs

Cleveland, Memphis, Okc, Clippers, Hawks

playoff teams that he'd start for

[hater]

LOL no way he starts over JJ Reddick

he'd be a great fit for CLE thats where I had him going tbqh

Just because Green can start in a handful of teams don't mean he's no system player.

he would struggle to get on the floor on most teams

[YGWHI]

you want a systems player? Try Kawhi on offense........................................... ....................tbh

He scored most of his points on insolation plays last season, most points-made-unassisted. He's a system player K...evin?

2014 was the beginning
http://i.imgur.com/2ZGzNYVl.jpg

[YGWHI]

http://i.imgur.com/4ON1TN5l.jpg

[YGWHI]

CAN'T BELIEVE A NBA PLAYER CAN SHOOT AIR BALL FROM MID RANGE :wow

YOU DISGUSTING EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING...Kawhi has developed a nice mid range shot.

TURN OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK...please.

[dabom]

http://i.imgur.com/4ON1TN5l.jpg

[YGWHI]

Danny Green is one of the best NBA three points shooters, one of the best one-on-one defenders, he left a lot of money on the table to be a Spur...

Ungrateful bitches

[dgspursforlife]

So if we define a system player as a player who can only play in a single system or a collection of specific systems i.e. is reliant on that system to be effective then Danny Green is a sytem player. However Danny Green is not reliant on a specific system to be effective. Every single offensive system in the NBA generates open 3s. This means that Danny Green would be able to play effectivly for every single NBA team. Is he perhaps more effective in the spurs system than in others? Sure. Would he start on every other team in the NBA? Of course not. Teams with a star SG like the Rockets or Miami would not start Green. Every other team most probably would.

[cd021]

Cleveland, Memphis, Okc, Clippers, Hawks

playoff teams that he'd start for

Add the Wizards (Dudley) & Bulls (Dunleavy), to that list

[cd021]

LOL no way he starts over JJ Reddick

he'd be a great fit for CLE thats where I had him going tbqh

Just because Green can start in a handful of teams don't mean he's no system player.

he would struggle to get on the floor on most teams

Reddicks a better offensive player but Green is superior defensively. For a team that was average defensively last year it he would more than likely start, whether at 2guard or SF.

[exstatic]

Reddicks a better offensive player but Green is superior defensively. For a team that was average defensively last year it he would more than likely start, whether at 2guard or SF.

I'd even argue that. Thy're both catch and shoot players, dependent on others to set up their looks, but in the four seasons that Green has been a full time starter, he's made more three pointers than JJ at a higher percentage, and is NOT a manikin on defense.

[Kawhi 5-0]

99.9% of NBA players are (or should be) "system" players. The 0.1% would be Jordan, LeBron, and a few others in the history of the league. Even Jordan and LeBron need(ed) players around them to win. The super-superstar players are, in essence, themselves "the system." A system is a plan: a strategy and the tactics needed to achieve said strategy.

I would estimate a good 20-30% of the league is made up of delusional pseudo-stars. Pseudo-stars don't know their limits. Likewise, they don't have coaches who discipline them for trying to play outside the system.

Likewise, it should be added that a system (the strategy) is (or should be) dependent upon the players. The collective talents should be organized and utilized in the most effective way. Coaches who have one way of doing things (the Triangle offense for example) are not necessarily serving the best interests of their teams.

The reason Popovich has succeeded is that discipline travels well. Pop is the only coach in the league who demands respect. He dishes it out pretty evenly. Players on the Spurs learn that deviating from the system (pseudo-star mode) is not acceptable. The Spurs' system incorporates unique talents (not super-superstars). Ginobili's creativity is built into the system, but if he turns the ball over 11 times during a game that's unacceptable. Parker's basket attacks are part of the system, but if he's not firing on all cylinders it looks pretty lame as he tries to beat younger, faster players off the dribble.

Building a team around a super-superstar can even be tricky. Fortunately, the Spurs don't have that problem. Kawhi has the potential to be a super-superstar, but he's not yet. If he naturally becomes that, great! We don't need Leonard or Aldridge or Green to be anyone other than who they are. This is a solid team built to win as a team. The new players will conform or they'll be benched. Pop may indeed be altering "the system" to harmonize with a new era of players.

The discipline on defense is "always have your teammate's back" and work your butt off (effort). The discipline on offense is "good to great"...ball movement and making the other team work...a battle of will and attrition. Both have in common a simple principle: team first.

[ceds]

Danny is for sure a system player


- He cannot create any offense for himself as evident by his shooting percentages inside the arc and his struggles to dribble confidently in the face of pressure.

- Has shown no ability to run p&r and struggles to get to the rim and finish .

- offense is based on getting open shots by moving without the ball for catch and shoot jumpers. 94% of his threes are assisted and 82% of his two's


He is a system player who will move the ball, play high energy defense and space the floor with three point shooting.

[313]

The Danny Green of today is not the same Danny Green from 2011 or whenever we got him. He's not a system player anymore, but he was when we got him.

[TrainOfThought5]

LOL no way he starts over JJ Reddick

he'd be a great fit for CLE thats where I had him going tbqh

Just because Green can start in a handful of teams don't mean he's no system player.

he would struggle to get on the floor on most teams

This might be one of the worst takes ive ever seen on ST.

[SuperCam]

Danny is for sure a system player


- He cannot create any offense for himself as evident by his shooting percentages inside the arc and his struggles to dribble confidently in the face of pressure.

- Has shown no ability to run p&r and struggles to get to the rim and finish .

- offense is based on getting open shots by moving without the ball for catch and shoot jumpers. 94% of his threes are assisted and 82% of his two's


He is a system player who will move the ball, play high energy defense and space the floor with three point shooting.

all of this, tbh

spurshomer thinking green starts over guys like Redick when he can't put the ball on the floor and has to be spoonfed all his shots :lol

[ceds]

Um green for sure starts over Reddick

Devensively it is not even close and Danny is just as effective as a shooter

[AFBlue]

I swear we had this exact topic just a couple months ago. Do we really need to rehash?

[100%duncan]

This might be one of the worst takes ive ever seen on ST.

It's from hater, you'll get used to it.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6pc07Zpz68
to be fair, I think Bosh fouled him there

[Spurtacular]

A good system player is important. You look for them at the right times__

http://dsz7vodgjx60a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/27122542/BIL-WAITERS-LEBRON.jpg

[Old School 44]

Yes...not that there's anything wrong with it.