A texas football team hits a ref middle of game

[InRareForm]

http://mobile.sportingnews.com/article/4654501-referee-hit-high-school-football-game-texas-marble-falls

[MultiTroll]

Wow. That 1st one is really a sucker punch. 2nd one is too but 1st one is full speed.
Waiting to head the story behind what motivated the hits.

The defense liarwyer spin from the hitters should be gagging.
Unless this ref molested their little brother or something, this is flat out thuggery.

[weebo]

Fat ref probably deserved it.

[InRareForm]

Apparently the ref said racist things, but still doesn't make it right for those thugs to do that.

[FkLA]

That's wasn't just any Texas HS football team. That's Jay HS from here in San Antonio. :lol

[BD24]

No surprise it was Jon Jay HS tbh

[Re-Animator]

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[td4mvp2k]

Fat ref probably deserved it.tru if ref was being racist tbh

[hehateme]

tru if ref was being racist tbh

tbh, you are fucking retarded

[td4mvp2k]

tbh, you are fucking retarded

:cry

[UZER]

It's actually Juan Jay

[Trill Clinton]

I hope these kids don't get jail time over this. Discipline them, kick them off the team but do not put them in jail.

[pgardn]

I hope these kids don't get jail time over this. Discipline them, kick them off the team but do not put them in jail.

If 18 they will get time hopefully. It was a premeditated assault on a defenseless person ( back turned) . The best outcome that occurred for them is the ref was not hurt. They are already suspended from the team.

[Das Texan]

Supposedly this was after throwing punches by Jay getting 2 other players kicked off the team.

Coaches need to be shit can ass fired.

Program needs to be suspended indefinitely.

[unleashbaynes]

:lmao at that dudes ponytail

[Trill Clinton]

If 18 they will get time hopefully. It was a premeditated assault on a defenseless person ( back turned) . The best outcome that occurred for them is the ref was not hurt. They are already suspended from the team.
One a sophmore and a senior. Probably 17 and 15. Some type of probation is needed. No need to put them in jail especially if they have a clean record.

[Trill Clinton]

Supposedly this was after throwing punches by Jay getting 2 other players kicked off the team.

Coaches need to be shit can ass fired.

Program needs to be suspended indefinitely.

Yup. The coach left one of them in the game when the red ejected the wrong kid.

[RD2191]

Hearing these kids might face charges. What I want to know is how can this be a criminal act and not for example when metta blindsided harden with that elbow? What's the difference? Or when that dude punched Kobe?

[DJR210]

Hell yeah John Jay baby, that's my high school.. That's how we get down not like these faggots on the NE side

[RD2191]

Hell yeah John Jay baby, that's my high school.. That's how we get down not like these faggots on the NE side

:lol

[RD2191]

If 18 they will get time hopefully. It was a premeditated assault on a defenseless person ( back turned) . The best outcome that occurred for them is the ref was not hurt. They are already suspended from the team.
You're a huge faggot and a pussy. Premeditated. Crofl. These kids made a mistake. They deserve probation maybe and some behavioral classes but not jail time.

[Kool Bob Love]

Hell yeah John Jay baby, that's my high school.. That's how we get down not like these faggots on the NE sideYall clowns still fucking lost the game.

[pgardn]

You're a huge faggot and a pussy. Premeditated. Crofl. These kids made a mistake. They deserve probation maybe and some behavioral classes but not jail time.

When I do this to you on the street you will think otherwise fckwad.

You are acknowledged fool if you don't think it was premeditated. The Athletic Director has already stated that was clear targeting.
Rob, you need your face messed up in a bad way.

[Pauly D]

You're a huge faggot and a pussy. Premeditated. Crofl. These kids made a mistake. They deserve probation maybe and some behavioral classes but not jail time.

Signs you're a subhuman, ghetto piece of shit

"MAAAN, DEY JUST KIDS THAT MADE A MISTAKE! DEY CAN'T HELP DEMSELVES."

Get the fuck outta here with that. The same logic could be applied to any crime of passion. Stop fucking apologizing for violent behavior

[m>s]

I hope these kids don't get jail time over this. Discipline them, kick them off the team but do not put them in jail.
I hope they get arrested and somehow commit suicide in custody

[unleashbaynes]

so again, how do you criminally charge these kids and not someone who intentionally punches or elbows another player?

[RD2191]

When I do this to you on the street you will think otherwise fckwad.

You are acknowledged fool if you don't think it was premeditated. The Athletic Director has already stated that was clear targeting.
Rob, you need your face messed up in a bad way.

You ain't gonna do shit cuz you a bitch. And who the fuck cares if it was premeditated, the kids messed up. They don't deserve jail time over it though.

[m>s]

You ain't gonna do shot cuz you a bitch. And who the fuck cares if it was premeditated, the kids messed up. They don't deserve jail time over it though.
Look a tough guy. I can tell you're weak by the way you speak and structure your sentences. Shit reeks

[RD2191]

so again, how do you criminally charge these kids and not someone who intentionally punches or elbows another player?

That's what I want to know.

[RD2191]

Look a tough guy. I can tell you're weak by the way you speak and structure your sentences. Shit reeks

Lol. You still salty cuz I shitted on you the other day?

[m>s]

so again, how do you criminally charge these kids and not someone who intentionally punches or elbows another player?
Because these animals need to be locked up that's why. Respect authority motherfucker. Assaulting a ref today shooting a cop tomorrow. Teach these thugs a lesson.

[m>s]

Lol. You still salty cuz I shitted on you the other day?
What troll were you under I don't remember talking to you

[RD2191]

Signs you're a subhuman, ghetto piece of shit

"MAAAN, DEY JUST KIDS THAT MADE A MISTAKE! DEY CAN'T HELP DEMSELVES."

Get the fuck outta here with that. The same logic could be applied to any crime of passion. Stop fucking apologizing for violent behavior
They are just kids, dumbfuck. How is jail going to help these kids in any way?

[unleashbaynes]

Because these animals need to be locked up that's why. Respect authority motherfucker. Assaulting a ref today shooting a cop tomorrow. Teach these thugs a lesson.

yeah because those two things are totally similar and comparable.

[m>s]

They are just kids, dumbfuck. How is jail going to help these kids in any way?
Keeping them away from people who actually contribute to society, making people safer. They look like the types to play the "knockout game" from behind. They're the kind I like to teach lessons to.

[m>s]

yeah because those two things are totally similar and comparable.
They all start somewhere

[DJR210]

Yall clowns still fucking lost the game.

Didn't lose this game, faggot..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-R0BklpIyQ

[Trill Clinton]

Keeping them away from people who actually contribute to society, making people safer. They look like the types to play the "knockout game" from behind. They're the kind I like to teach lessons to.

go to sleep, darrell

[m>s]

go to sleep, darrell
Dude even if I were a black guy named Darrel my views wouldn't change. I know lots of decent black people, they more or less agree with most of my views.

[Biernutz]

The two Jay players let their emotions get the best of them. They will be charged with assault at the least. Texas
is one of 36 states that has a law about attacking ref's during and after the games. If the ref was using racists
language to taunting the players they should have walked off the field and reported him. By attacking the ref
they will be kicked out of school and may get jail time.

[m>s]

The two Jay players let their emotions get the best of them. They will be charged with assault at the least. Texas
is one of 36 states that has a law about attacking ref's during and after the games. If the ref was using racists
language to taunting the players they should have walked off the field and reported him. By attacking the ref
they will be kicked out of school and may get jail time.
Why aren't you out in the streets protesting the Islamic takeover of your country german bro?

[gospursgojas]

After the hits, two players were ejected. One was correct and one was not. The player who stayed in the game that should have been ejected ended up commiting a late hit on the opposing team's QB. So obviously he wasn't satisfied with just trying to hurt the ref.

[Sportcamper]

I was wondering what SA residents take on this would be…That was just crazy….

[ididnotnothat]

If my son pulled that crap he'd rather be in jail than deal with the rath of his father.

[spurs1990]

Vote Trump.

Simple solution.

[LkrFan]

Fat ref probably deserved it.Was this in San Antonio? :lol

[Oh, Gee!!]

Vote Trump.

Simple solution.

Trump ruined tht USFL. He will ruin HS football if elected.

[spurs1990]

Trump ruined tht USFL. He will ruin HS football if elected.

Lmao.

Touche.

Tbh way too clever of a response for the likes of this board.

[Chris]

Kids might have been coached to to hit that referee. Apparently the assistant coach/DB coach told them that the referee "needed to pay". Not saying the kids are in the clear but it's disturbing that a coach would consider that.

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[pgardn]

Kids might have been coached to to hit that referee. Apparently the assistant coach/DB coach told them that the referee "needed to pay". Not saying the kids are in the clear but it's disturbing that a coach would consider that.

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Now it really gets ugly.

This is going to be a who said what mess.

If the coach actually instructed them to pull that off he gets it worse than they do.
Still does not excuse what they did however.

[pgardn]

You ain't gonna do shit cuz you a bitch. And who the fuck cares if it was premeditated, the kids messed up. They don't deserve jail time over it though.

If 18 they absolutely do.

So if the ref was paralyzed... What then?

And Rob... You gotta do better than calling me a bitch. Jesus Christ that's just pitiful. Tell me you will stuff your hand down my throat and rip my lungs out. Tell me you will smash my head into the floor and stretch my eyelids under the leg of a chair. Something... Bitch? This won't do. You need to be coached up.

[IceColdBrewski]

Kids might have been coached to to hit that referee. Apparently the assistant coach/DB coach told them that the referee "needed to pay". Not saying the kids are in the clear but it's disturbing that a coach would consider that.


Sounds like a bunch of kids throwing everyone under the bus to avoid serious trouble to me. "He called us dirty mexicans!...I mean uh, a coach told us to do it!...Yeah, that's it!...I mean, er uh..."

[ChumpDumper]

Kick the kids out of sports for a year. Any coach involved is out of a job. No brainer.

[pgardn]

Kick the kids out of sports for a year. Any coach involved is out of a job. No brainer.

Ref will not see it this way.

Its also a license for a senior to kill a ref in his last game.

[ChumpDumper]

Ref will not see it this way.

Its also a license for a senior to kill a ref in his last game.

I'm sure it would lead to murder :rolleyes, but yeah, criminal charges if the DA sees fit. Ref can sue as well.

[spurs1990]

Maybe the two vatos were seeking revenge for 1836.

Grudges die hard.

[pgardn]

I'm sure it would lead to murder :rolleyes, but yeah, criminal charges if the DA sees fit. Ref can sue as well.

You know what I mean. Some of those refs are older ex coaches. I know a few. They look forward to those games. They like helping out. The pay is absolutely horrendous. Those kids could really hurt the refs and they know it. These kids are very tough and they are a lot stronger than 15 years back. If they had hit an old coach with some previous back problem... And those were horrendous cheap shots.

Take it it out on your opponent while play is going on in a manner consistent with the rules, not some old out of shape fat guy.

[pgardn]

A coach placed on administrative leave and this:



The district said both players will be taken to a disciplinary hearing and the incident will be tried as an assault on a school official. The Marble Falls Police Department said Tuesday it was presenting a final investigation (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/hssports/2015/09/marble-falls-pd-to-present-case-of-jay-players-to-prosecutor/) to a Burnet County prosecutor, who will determine if charges should be filed.





All appropriate thus far IMO. Although I did not think refs were school officials whatever that is defined as.

[DJR210]

:lmao @ accusing the ref of calling the players ******s during the game not once but twice

:lol typical

[hater]

:lmao ese Huey was taken to the cleaners :lol

[Trill Clinton]

:lmao @ accusing the ref of calling the players ******s during the game not once but twice

:lol typical

what racial slur do you think the they are accusing the ref of calling them? your word is censored out.

[hater]

bean ers

[Trill Clinton]

i doub't he called them beahner's. nobody says that goofy shit offline. he probably told them go back to mexico or dirty mexicans, something like that.

[manufan10]

A coach placed on administrative leave and this:



The district said both players will be taken to a disciplinary hearing and the incident will be tried as an assault on a school official. The Marble Falls Police Department said Tuesday it was presenting a final investigation (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/hssports/2015/09/marble-falls-pd-to-present-case-of-jay-players-to-prosecutor/) to a Burnet County prosecutor, who will determine if charges should be filed.





All appropriate thus far IMO. Although I did not think refs were school officials whatever that is defined as.

A “school official” includes a teacher, school principal, president, chancellor, board member, trustee, registrar, counselor, admissions officer, attorney, accountant, human resources professional, information systems specialist, and support or clerical personnel. A contractor, consultant, volunteer, or other party to whom a school or institution has outsourced institutional services or functions may also be considered a “school official” provided that they are performing an institutional service or function for which the agency would otherwise use employees and is under the direct control of the agency or institution with respect to the use and maintenance of education records. See 34 CFR § 99.31(a)(1)(i)(B).

http://familypolicy.ed.gov/content/who-%E2%80%9Cschool-official%E2%80%9D-under-ferpa

[DJR210]

i doub't he called them beahner's. nobody says that goofy shit offline. he probably told them go back to mexico or dirty mexicans, something like that.

Has to be niggras or spics.. The players last names were mexican, but who knows if they were the ones the alleged slurs were directed at

[Avante]

You do nothing to the kids, ya simply shut the football program down for a year. Fire all the coachs and start brand new in 2016.

All these referees understand the violence, they knowingly put themselves in harms way. Yes yes this is a little diffrent but basically the same thing.

[ChumpDumper]

You do nothing to the kids, ya simply shut the football program down for a year. Fire all the coachs and start brand new in 2016.

All these referees understand the violence, they knowingly put themselves in harms way. Yes yes this is a little diffrent but basically the same thing.No, it's not.

[Blake]

You do nothing to the kids

You really have no clue just how retarded you are

[spurraider21]

You do nothing to the kids, ya simply shut the football program down for a year. Fire all the coachs and start brand new in 2016.

All these referees understand the violence, they knowingly put themselves in harms way. Yes yes this is a little diffrent but basically the same thing.
LOL. Don't punish the violent kids. Just punish everybody in the program for their actions. Brilliant.

The refs might sign up for incidental contact, but not an intentional hit

[Avante]

LOL. Don't punish the violent kids. Just punish everybody in the program for their actions. Brilliant.

The refs might sign up for incidental contact, but not an intentional hit

What did the Penn State football players have to do with that situation, well? How many programs have been punished because of a couple?

Yep, you dump the football program for a year, fire all the coachs and start over. You make damn sure this never happens again. The school makes a statement.

I have played in three alumni football games, each time having to sign a release so the school couldn't be held accountable. I put myself in harms way. Hell yes those refs don't sign on to be mugged (ya reckon?) but they do understand that they are in a violent situation by choice.

[ChumpDumper]

Did you get participation tr:cryphies for your alumni games?

"Most Likely to Peak in Sophomore Year"

[Avante]

The mentally retarded and the internet, sheesh~~~~~~

[spurraider21]

Signing up to play =/= signing up to ref

[Avante]

Signing up to play =/= signing up to ref

Let me slow it down for ya slick....

The minute you step on any football field you know of the dangers, ok little man? You do stand a chance of getting hurt. Refs know they can get injured, it happens all the time as we'll be seeing this season. They understand the dangers involved, ok guy?

OBVIOUSLY.....they aren't looking to be attacked...OK? But, they are looking to stay out of danger.

[Avante]

Little people....

This is just HS football, ok? Here it's all about building young people, ok ya with me. This is not Alabama, USC, ND, ok? This is not the NFL.

To see what we saw in this situation is more than enought to dump the football season. This goes beyond football, this is on another level. Football comes up tiny here, so get rid of it. The school sends a messagse to the community, making it very clear this sort of thing will never be tolerated at all, zero! The hell with football for that season.

Now think people, what is worst than it being known...you....are why the season is over? You have a better punishment than that, no ya don't!

[ChumpDumper]

Of course I have a better punishment than that.

That's pretty much the stupidest punishment suggested.

How can you be so small and so fat at the same time?

[Avante]

Imagine you spend your time here following a guy around who sees you as a retarded pest. Is this sad to watch or what?

Poor little freak.

[ChumpDumper]

Imagine you spend your time here following a guy around who sees you as a retarded pest. Is this sad to watch or what?

Poor little freak.You followed me in here, you poor, short, fat freak.

[Blake]

What did the Penn State football players have to do with that situation, well? How many programs have been punished because of a couple?

Yep, you dump the football program for a year, fire all the coachs and start over. You make damn sure this never happens again. The school makes a statement.

I have played in three alumni football games, each time having to sign a release so the school couldn't be held accountable. I put myself in harms way. Hell yes those refs don't sign on to be mugged (ya reckon?) but they do understand that they are in a violent situation by choice.

Penn St is a terrible analogy. You're so stupid.

[DJR210]

:lol at comparing the molestation of dozens of young boys over a span of many years that was proven to be known about to school officials to two players laying a hit on am alleged racist referee

:lol what a stupid fuck

[pgardn]

A “school official” includes a teacher, school principal, president, chancellor, board member, trustee, registrar, counselor, admissions officer, attorney, accountant, human resources professional, information systems specialist, and support or clerical personnel. A contractor, consultant, volunteer, or other party to whom a school or institution has outsourced institutional services or functions may also be considered a “school official” provided that they are performing an institutional service or function for which the agency would otherwise use employees and is under the direct control of the agency or institution with respect to the use and maintenance of education records. See 34 CFR § 99.31(a)(1)(i)(B).

http://familypolicy.ed.gov/content/who-%E2%80%9Cschool-official%E2%80%9D-under-ferpa

Thanks for the clarification.

[Avante]

:lol at comparing the molestation of dozens of young boys over a span of many years that was proven to be known about to school officials to two players laying a hit on am alleged racist referee

:lol what a stupid fuck

What are you retarded?

The point was ya dumb fuck is there are things that over shadow sports. Especially HS sports.

How many idiots post here anyway?

[Avante]

Now think little people, just what can be done to these kids, well? That's right not a whole hell of a lot. So you punish the school instead. You make it crystal clear if this sort of then ever happens again there won't be a football program anymore.

You make it dramatic.

[DJR210]

How many idiots post here anyway? Including you?

[Blake]

Now think little people, just what can be done to these kids, well? That's right not a whole hell of a lot. So you punish the school instead. You make it crystal clear if this sort of then ever happens again there won't be a football program anymore.

You make it dramatic.

Actually they could press criminal charges on the kids. You're so stupid.

[Pick of Destiny]

What are you retarded?

The point was ya dumb fuck is there are things that over shadow sports. Especially HS sports.

How many idiots post here anyway?

Including yourself?

[Avante]

Including you?

A confederate flag? Dude, you cannot be this fucking stupid.

[CosmicCowboy]

Kids should be charged with assault and fined.

Totally inexcusable.

[Avante]

Wow~~~~~


HS football is a big deal to a lot of families. Friday Night Lights! You wanna punish, you take that away. Punishing a couple dumb kids....big fucking deal. You make it devastating, you send a message. No football for a year and if this ever happens again football is over at that school.

Come on little people your stupidity is showing, again!

[CosmicCowboy]

They blindsided a guy and could have seriously hurt him.

It's just like playing knockout.

You seriously just want to say "kids will be kids"?

[Trill Clinton]

speaking of knockout, what ever happened to it?

[Blake]

Wow~~~~~


HS football is a big deal to a lot of families. Friday Night Lights! You wanna punish, you take that away. Punishing a couple dumb kids....big fucking deal. You make it devastating, you send a message. No football for a year and if this ever happens again football is over at that school.

Come on little people your stupidity is showing, again!

You want to punish the entire school for the actions of two kids and maybe a coach. Wow ~~~~you're really fucking stupid.

And you're fat.

[DJR210]

A confederate flag? Dude, you cannot be this fucking stupid.

You're a history buff, so I'm sure you can appreciate it.

[Spurminator]

speaking of knockout, what ever happened to it?

It really never caught on.

[Avante]

It works like this little people.....

If my kid intentionally throws a rock through your garage window, I'M....reponsible for it.

OK PEOPLE~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Damn!

These are just HS kids, ok? O=K????? So who failed them, why didn't they know any better? What adult let these kid's down?

How many idiots post here?

THE ADULTS INVOLVED ARE THE ONES IN TROUBLE.....ok?

Sometimes I just have to shake my head.

Now think....

The special teams keep getting one penalty after another so who gets lectured by the head coach, yep.....THE SPECIAL TEAMS COACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....not ther kids.

:rolleyes

[Blake]

It works like this little people.....

If my kid intentionally throws a rock through your garage window, I'M....reponsible for it.

OK PEOPLE~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Damn!

Oh because an assault on a ref is like vandalism.

Lol you're such a fucking retard.

[CosmicCowboy]

Damn.

Check this one out. Last weekend in New Jersey.

FPhkIMWANR0

White boy kicked his ass on the line so the punk ass gangsta had to hit him with the helmet. Only fair, right? Only took 10 stitches to close the gash. #BLM. Fuck that cracker.

So, Avante, just kids being kids? Punish the team? Fire the coaches?

[Avante]

Damn.

Check this one out. Last weekend in New Jersey.

FPhkIMWANR0

White boy kicked his ass on the line so the punk ass gangsta had to hit him with the helmet. Only fair, right? Only took 10 stitches to close the gash. #BLM. Fuck that cracker.

So, Avante, just kids being kids? Punish the team? Fire the coaches?

The key word here is.....intent. That incident was done with passion, it was not plotted or planned, it was a spur of the moment emotional out burst. Totally different deal than kids mugging a ref.



Well I'll be damn it wasn't just a couple kids acting stupid.


According to Northside officials, the players were frustrated during the game by what they felt were wrong or missed calls by the referee. The players also alleged that the referee directed racial slurs at them.
The district said John Jay players told investigators that an assistant coach told them, "That guy (referee) needs to pay for cheating us."

The assistant coach, Mack Breed, has been placed on administrative leave during the investigation. District officials said Breed's comments could have led to the incident with the referee. Breed, 29, was hired by the district in 2010.

There ya go.

[Avante]

Never seen so many without a clue about how things really work in one place before. Texas?

[Blake]

Never seen so many without a clue about how things really work in one place before. Texas?

you have no clue what alleged means, do you

And I'm betting in most if not all states these kids would be looking at possible assault charges.

You're stupid. And fat.

[CosmicCowboy]

The key word here is.....intent. That incident was done with passion, it was not plotted or planned, it was a spur of the moment emotional out burst. Totally different deal than kids mugging a ref.



Well I'll be damn it wasn't just a couple kids acting stupid.


According to Northside officials, the players were frustrated during the game by what they felt were wrong or missed calls by the referee. The players also alleged that the referee directed racial slurs at them.
The district said John Jay players told investigators that an assistant coach told them, "That guy (referee) needs to pay for cheating us."

The assistant coach, Mack Breed, has been placed on administrative leave during the investigation. District officials said Breed's comments could have led to the incident with the referee. Breed, 29, was hired by the district in 2010.

There ya go.

Sounds like a couple of POS punks trying to lie their way out of a bad situation.

[Trill Clinton]

Com

SAN ANTONIO -- The Texas high school football official who was blindsided by two players during a game earlier this month called two players the N-word on separate occasions, once before the infamous hit and once after, according to the accounts of four John Jay High School players and one person who was on the sideline that night.
The players also have told those investigating the incident that the official used language offensive to Hispanic players.

The player accounts were provided to Outside the Lines on the condition that the players and source would not be named, due to an ongoing school district investigation.
Officials with the Northside Independent School District said in a news conference Tuesday that, among other things, they were looking into alleged racist remarks made by the official, Robert Watts, but declined to provide specifics of what was said and to whom.

The video of John Jay safeties Michael Moreno and Victor Rojas blindsiding Watts in a game against Marble Falls on Sept. 4 has gone viral, bringing national attention to the San Antonio public school.

Watts has declined to comment. His New Jersey-based attorney, Alan Goldberger, however, has said in multiple interviews that Moreno and Rojas fabricated allegations that Watts used racist remarks during the game in order to make excuses for their own actions.

When reached by phone Saturday, Goldberger said, "I'm not going to get into a media debate with these kids. Mr. Watts has denied he made any offensive remarks." Goldberger declined further comment.

Earlier this week, Goldberger said that Watts has no prior history of complaints about his language during games.

Northside ISD athletic director Stan Laing said the investigation into the events of the game will probably wrap up this weekend.

When asked specifically about the comments Watts made during the game and his alleged use of the N-word, Laing said: "That's not a surprise. That's what we've been hearing all along."
Laing would not comment on what should be done if, in fact, it is proved that Watts did use racist language but said all of the information from John Jay players and coaches would be turned over to the Texas Association of Sports Officials so the governing body of Texas referees can conduct its own investigation.

John Jay is predominantly a minority school. Marble Falls High, which hosted the game, is a predominantly white school northwest of Austin.
Officials from Marble Falls told OTL they couldn't comment due to the ongoing investigation.

Outside the Lines has learned that it wasn't Moreno or Rojas who first alerted John Jay coaches to the alleged racist remarks but rather quarterback Moses Reynolds and the team's starting running back, Trent Hobdy.

The game was marred by a series of penalties and ejections that contributed to what one school administrator characterized last week as a "powder-keg" atmosphere.
John Jay players were frustrated that no Marble Falls players were ejected during the physical contest, which included two John Jay touchdowns nullified by penalties.
In the third quarter, John Jay wide receiver Daytwon Sheridan was ejected from the game for throwing punches at a Marble Falls player.

In the fourth quarter, according to the accounts of two different John Jay players obtained by Outside the Lines, Reynolds ran the ball up the middle on a quarterback keeper and, after getting tackled, found himself on the receiving end of some trash talk from a Marble Falls player. According to the accounts of two players, Reynolds did not respond to the opposing player but instead turned to Watts, threw him the ball and said, "See, I'm not saying nothing."

Two John Jay players said Watts, apparently angry with the way Reynolds had thrown the ball to him, confronted Reynolds and said: "N-----, throw the f---ing ball at me again."

On the next possession, Reynolds was playing safety when a Marble Falls running back broke through the left side and wasn't tackled until he reached the John Jay secondary.

Reynolds, who was tied up with a Marble Falls blocker, was not in on the tackle. While video of the play, reviewed by Outside the Lines, clearly shows the Marble Falls player striking Reynolds in the face mask at least twice, only Reynolds, who retaliated by pushing the opposing player's face mask, was ejected from the game by Watts.

When Reynolds came to the sideline, he told John Jay offensive coordinator Roy Garcia and secondary coach Mack Breed that he'd been called the N-word by Watts, according to a person on the John Jay sideline, who asked not to be identified because of the school district's investigation.

According to Northside ISD officials, it was Breed who, several plays prior to the play in which Watts was blindsided, said of Watts: "That guy needs to pay for cheating us." Breed has been placed on administrative leave for his conduct during the game.

When Reynolds later shared the story with his mother, Michele, he told the same story of how Watts called him the N-word, according to a person familiar with the exchange, who also asked not to be identified.

Later in the fourth quarter, when Watts heard John Jay senior defensive lineman Sammy Alvarado speaking Spanish, Watts reacted by saying, "We're in America, speak English," according to the account of a John Jay player who said he heard the remark from Watts.

With the clock winding down and John Jay trailing 15-9, the video shows sophomore Rojas hitting a defenseless Watts from behind, knocking him down, followed by Moreno lowering his helmet and piling into Watts while he was on the ground. The two were only in the game because starters Sheridan (who plays receiver and safety) and Reynolds had been ejected earlier.

The video has now been seen online by millions of people. What isn't known, at least not to those outside the John Jay program, is what the players say happened immediately after the now-infamous hits: As Watts rose to his feet, he immediately confronted Hobdy.

"You can't see it on film but the ref was all up in his face, chest to chest," said a team source, who witnessed the exchange from the John Jay sideline.
As Watts confronted Hobdy, he said, "Did you hit me?" according to one player's account of the exchange. Hobdy responded by saying: "You don't know who hit you," that same player said.

Watts questioned Hobdy again, asking, "Did you hit me, n-----?" according to the accounts of two John Jay players.

Hobdy was ejected from the game, even though he hadn't hit Watts, while Moreno remained in the game.

As Hobdy came to the sideline, visibly upset, he told offensive coordinator Garcia and defensive position coach Breed about Watts' use of the N-word, according to a source on the John Jay sidelines. That same source said John Jay head coach Gary Gutierrez was made aware of the racist language allegedly used by Watts.

"It burns me up on the inside," the source said, when asked about the impact Watts' alleged remarks had on the John Jay players.

"If the kids [Rojas and Moreno] would have never done anything, this wouldn't be an issue and he'd probably just go on making comments like that."

Rojas and Moreno, who were suspended from the team and the school, will attend Northside Alternative High School pending the outcome of a disciplinary hearing conducted by the Northside ISD, and could also face assault charges.

On Friday, John Jay played its first game since the incident, losing 37-14 to Del Rio.
Police officers lined the bleachers and edges of the playing field as school officials added extra security. The game was played without incident.
John Barr is an investigative reporter and Michael Sciallo is a producer in ESPN's Enterprise Unit.

[baseline bum]

Getting called a ###### isn't grounds for assault. Grounds for firing the ref for sure.

[Trill Clinton]

the ref would have gotten a pass for calling them N words. he fucced up by telling them to speak english and using hispanic slurs.

[CosmicCowboy]

Lost to Marble Falls and Laredo? It sounds like this John Jay team sucks so bad that banning them for a year as Avante advocates would be a blessing in disguise. :lol

[td4mvp2k]

they should of took his acl's out instead tbh

[baseline bum]

the ref would have gotten a pass for calling them N words. he fucced up by telling them to speak english and using hispanic slurs.

dF1NUposXVQ

[Avante]

One more time.

It's all about the culture, ok people? Those kids thought that was the way to handle that situation. Why? Yep, they grew around that mentality. You need to shake things up, do something dramatic to change things.

I'll back off firing the coaching staff but the 2015 football season should be over. Take it from....so what did the kids get...to a whole community pissed off about no football. The kids will be forgotten, not the 2015 non season.

[Blake]

One more time.

It's all about the culture, ok people? Those kids thought that was the way to handle that situation. Why? Yep, they grew around that mentality. You need to shake things up, do something dramatic to change things.

I'll back off firing the coaching staff but the 2015 football season should be over. Take it from....so what did the kids get...to a whole community pissed off about no football. The kids will be forgotten, not the 2015 non season.

Lol one more time.

Nobody agrees with your stupid assessment, dummy.

[Avante]

Look at this freak Blake, one minute it's....

Blake...forget popular opinion. (when talking religion)

Now it's....nobody agree with you.

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..what a wishy washy little bitch.

[Blake]

Look at this freak Blake, one minute it's....

Blake...forget popular opinion. (when talking religion)

Now it's....nobody agree with you.

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..what a wishy washy little bitch.

Hey, congrats on seeing how I appealed to the masses. Yes, it's a logical fallacy.

I bet you still won't get it though.

[Trill Clinton]

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[Trill Clinton]

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[DJR210]

they should of took his acl's out instead tbh

:lol

[Frank Dux]

644880558082904064

At least they're representing San Antonio for reals.

[DJR210]

:lmao at that haircut. Fucking disgraced my school IMO now that I saw his hair

[FromWayDowntown]

I'm glad that NISD hasn't taken the asinine route suggested by Avante and others and hasn't punished the rest of the kids on that team by depriving them of not only the chance to participate in a sport that they enjoy, but also to continue to enjoy the benefits of being on a team and committing themselves to work.

If this same incident had occurred at a more prestigious school (where there might actually be less respect for game officials; I've been around those situations and I'm not just guessing about that), I don't think that anyone would be calling to shutdown the program. If two players from Brennan HS, or Reagan HS, or Steele HS were to hit an official this weekend, nobody's going to think that the solution to the problem is to end the Brennan, Reagan, or Steele season.

Ironically, by keeping Jay program going this year, the kids who didn't participate in assaulting the official will probably learn substantially more about respecting authority and just doing your job than they would have if the program had been shut down; if you take them out of that environment, they lose any chance to gain any benefit from recovering from such a shocking story and all of the things that surround it. By allowing them to keep going, to allow the remaining players to find a way to comport themselves with dignity and strength for the next two months, no matter what anyone might say or do to them, they learn directly that you don't deal with frustration and anger by assaulting those who frustrate or anger you.

Discipline can be taught without imposing harsh discipline to achieve that end.

Besides, for at least some of these kids, football isn't a direct path to a better life, but it may be helpful to have an activity like that in their backgrounds to get into colleges or to find jobs that aren't just menial work. To say that a senior linebacker who makes good grades and keeps himself out of trouble will lose the chance to point to 3 years of football on applications for college/jobs because some of his teammates couldn't hold their powder or were told to do something stupid and complied doesn't really teach the good kid anything and just frustrates his chances to grow beyond his current environment.

The players were wrong and they should be punished, as they have been.

The coach who allegedly instructed them to do "something" is wrong and he should be punished and shouldn't coach again, as he apparently will be.

And if the official said what he's alleged to have said, it doesn't justify what any of the other actors here did, but it certainly suggests that he should be punished and not be refereeing youth sports any longer. If he's so pathetic that he feels justified in some way spewing racial nonsense to teenagers, there are significant issues there that need to be corrected.

[InRareForm]

terrible haircut

[Chris]

He bringing back that Mexi-mullet

[IceColdBrewski]

Didn't one of them stay in the game and go after the qb after he took a knee in the victory formation? What's the excuse for that I wonder. I guess he hasn't figured out a way to blame someone else for that one yet.

[Pauly D]

the ref would have gotten a pass for calling them N words. he fucced up by telling them to speak english and using hispanic slurs.

But they should speak English tbh. Leave the third world culture back on the third world country

[Pauly D]

644878246367100928

The hood on the left really committing to the sheep's clothing, glasses and all. He's probably the worst. The other just looks like a follower retard

[703 Spurz]

Ban both of these little motherfuckers. It would've been one thing if this shit was done "The Longest Yard" style where no one saw it except for the warden. But these morons did this shit in the public eye (videotaped for crissakes) and deserve the book to be thrown out them.

The ref called them names? Always so easy to make bullshit like that up when you get caught.

[FkLA]

But they should speak English tbh. Leave the third world culture back on the third world country

Mexicans speaking Spanish: hell nawwwwwww
Old man getting off on underage girls: nothing wrong with it, it's normal :madrun

[Infinite_limit]

Where's the slut Avante been hiding?

[Pauly D]

Mexicans speaking Spanish: hell nawwwwwww
Old man getting off on underage girls: nothing wrong with it, it's normal :madrun

1. They don't live in Mexico.
2. My attraction to girls doesn't start at the arbitrary age of 18.
3. I'm an old man?

[Trill Clinton]

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http://i60.tinypic.com/drfqc9.png

[CosmicCowboy]

Coach should be fired immediately and banned from coaching again in the UIL.

[Blake]

Coach should also have some criminal charges coming

[FromWayDowntown]

Coach should be fired immediately and banned from coaching again in the UIL.

I'd think it's a near 100% certainty that UIL will ban him; at the very least, he's not hirable after all of this, so even if he isn't banned forever from coaching, it's highly unlikely that anyone will give him another shot at it, and that's a proper response to this, I think.

But, interestingly, today's story from OTL further undermines the calls to shut down the entire program, since the Head Coach acted like a leader in the immediate aftermath of the game. On the bus ride home, he had already decided that the players would be dismissed and he learned that the assistant coach had told them to take action against the official. He didn't just sit on that information because it might be embarrassing or difficult; he took what he learned to his supervisors and told them what he knew right away, which is precisely what he should have done. The head coach didn't try to act like this never happened or that it wasn't a big deal. He took precisely the right steps and it would be asinine to cut off the entire program in light of that display of leadership. The kids who remain on that team will benefit from exposure to that sort of accountability and will learn something about dealing with adversity (and maybe even succeeding in spite of adversity).

[Chris]

You guys, this poor man is still suffering from physical injuries and other disorders including short term memory loss and fever. This man was brutalized. Definitely not trying to cash in at all.

http://www.kens5.com/story/sports/high-school/2015/09/25/robert-watts-attorney-physical-injuries/72827804/

[m>s]

Coach should also have some criminal charges comingbut he's black what are you racist

[Blake]

but he's black what are you racist

Solid ad hominem, retard.

[m>s]

Solid ad hominem, retard.
I got it from you, fucknugget

[Blake]

I got it from you, fucknugget

lol no. Lol you still don't get what ad hominem means, retard.

[m>s]

This response is exactly why you're the biggest retard on st. Did your umbilical cord get caught around your neck and cause a little brain damage or what?

[BatManu20]

:lmao at that dudes ponytail

https://i.imgflip.com/rmpvz.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/rmpvz)

[RD2191]

This response is exactly why you're the biggest retard on st. Did your umbilical cord get caught around your neck and cause a little brain damage or what?

:lol

[RD2191]

https://i.imgflip.com/rmpvz.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/rmpvz)

:lmao

[Boogie Munster]

http://i.imgur.com/t3okAy5.jpg

[Fabbs]

....
If/when a civil trial comes down for injuries to the ref, will it be against the insurance company for the school district who employs the coach?
Or vs. only the coach as a private individual?

[BD24]

https://i.imgflip.com/rmpvz.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/rmpvz)
Everyone meet Rob Diaz :lol

[DMC]

The ref should not be deprived of being able to lord his authority over mullet wearing beanie babies. So what he called them names. That should endear him to them.

[pgardn]

Coach should also have some criminal charges coming

What should he be charged with?

[Blake]

What should he be charged with?

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.15.htm

Criminal solicitation/ solicitation of a minor, imo

[Blake]

What should he be charged with?

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.15.htm

Criminal solicitation/ solicitation of a minor, imo

[I. Hustle]

:bobo

[pgardn]

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.15.htm

Criminal solicitation/ solicitation of a minor, imo

It needs to be something, I just did not know what they would/could tag him with.
So much language in that to get straight. It looks a big mess.