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ElNono
09-09-2015, 03:01 AM
I thought this was a very good read.

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How the GOP’s Religious Freedom Rhetoric Could Undermine the Party
If conservatives want to insist on the priority of rights, they shouldn't be surprised when they see their other goals slipping away.
By Alan Wolfe - 09/08/15, 08:29 PM EDT

Has anyone noticed that the further right Republican conservatives move, the further left their rhetoric becomes?

Consider the way current Republican contenders for president have reacted to the case of Kim Davis, the Kentucky clerk who spent Labor Day weekend in jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. “This,” Mike Huckabee told ABC’s “This Week,” “is what [President Thomas] Jefferson warned us about. That’s judicial tyranny.”

Huckabee is not the only Republican presidential candidate who invokes the language of the radical left to defend the positions of the radical right. “I’ll tell you, I stand with Kim Davis unequivocally,” echoed fellow candidate Ted Cruz. “I stand with her or anyone else the government is trying to persecute for standing up for their faith.”

“She’s not going to resign,” one of her lawyers, Mat Staver, declared. “She’s not going to sacrifice her conscience, so she’s doing what Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote about his Letter from the Birmingham Jail, which is to pay the consequences for her decision.”

Not too long ago, religious conservatives were happy to be the moral majority, wielding government power against people too extreme in their demands and too outlandish in their lifestyle to be accepted as normal. But with gay marriage now legal everywhere in the United States except American Samoa, and with the majority of Americans now in favor of it, right-wing politicians are increasingly falling back on the language of rights—transforming from a moral majority to an aggrieved minority. Liberal elites, they insist, constitute an establishment persecuting the godly the way the Romans crucified Christ. The Supreme Court’s ruling in favor of gay marriage, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal told his followers after the decision, “will pave the way for an all out assault against the religious freedom rights of Christians. … This ruling must not be used as pretext by Washington to erode our right to religious liberty.”

Freedom, liberty, rights, resistance to tyranny—these words are quintessentially American. What conservatives seem to forget, however, is that they usually constitute the rallying cry of those seeking greater social justice, enhanced equality and toleration of difference. If conservatives want to insist on the priority of rights, God bless them. But they should not be surprised when the other goals they seek—limited government, opposition to affirmative action, the importance of moral obligation, and the defense of hierarchy and authority—all become more difficult to achieve.

Read more:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/republicans-religious-freedom-backfire-213130

JoeChalupa
09-09-2015, 08:11 AM
Good read. Cruz is waiting for Trump to fail to pickup his scraps.

Winehole23
09-09-2015, 08:43 AM
self-styled conservatives long ago assimilated to identity politics/PC and use its rhetoric reflexively.

part of that is related to the GOP's generation long exile in the wilderness after WWII, part of it is cultural: Christianity per se contains appeals to universal humanism and seeks compassion and succor for the persecuted.

conservatism, so-called, is just another flavor of traditional American liberalism, most prevalently, Cold War liberalism.

Winehole23
09-09-2015, 08:51 AM
not a big worry for the GOP. conservatives won't forget to stress responsibilities and public order when someone else is protesting, just like liberals haven't forgotten to do it wrt Kim Davis.

boutons_deux
09-09-2015, 08:56 AM
"GOP's generation long exile in the wilderness after WWII" Eisenhower elected 7 years after WWII?

'47-'49 House: 246 R, 188 D

"Christianity per se contains appeals to universal humanism"

mention humanism to Christian Taliban and they slander you as "godless"

"and seeks compassion and succor for the persecuted" sounds Christ-like, but absolutely not USA's Christian Taliban, who seek control of govt to impose a persecuting theocracy.

Winehole23
09-09-2015, 09:03 AM
1949 to 1994 isn't a long time to be the minority party in Congress?

boutons_deux
09-09-2015, 10:28 AM
1949 to 1994 isn't a long time to be the minority party in Congress?

1949 isn't "since WWII".

In the '50s and '60s, Repugs were hardly shut out as compromise still existed.

The Repugs did pass the progressive legislation of the '60s over the racist southern Dems. Hardly a wasteland for the Repugs as you fantasize.

Spurminator
09-09-2015, 10:35 AM
This is basically a less-justified illustration of the whole "victim card"/"persecution complex" mentality that conservatives accuse liberals of enabling.

Winehole23
09-10-2015, 03:07 AM
1949 isn't "since WWII".

In the '50s and '60s, Repugs were hardly shut out as compromise still existed.

The Repugs did pass the progressive legislation of the '60s over the racist southern Dems. Hardly a wasteland for the Repugs as you fantasize.well, at least you give credit to Repugs for civil rights in the USA, if nothing else.

Winehole23
09-10-2015, 03:09 AM
1949 isn't "since WWII".WWII ended in 1945. you're straining at a gnat.