Time to put up or shut up Texas libs----Syrian refugees heading your way

[TheSanityAnnex]

Kindly requesting pictures of boutons in his basement with his adopted Syrian refugee family




http://time.com/4029719/syrian-refugees-us-relocate/ (http://time.com/4029719/syrian-refugees-us-relocate/)

Texas leads the way

(http://time.com/4025187/arab-states-syrian-refugees/)
The White House announced Thursday it would take in as many as 10,000 Syrian refugees (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/10/us-europe-migrants-whitehouse-idUSKCN0RA26220150910) next year in the wake of growing concern in Europe over the flood of migrants fleeing the Middle East.
Since the Syrian Civil War began in March 2011, 1,584 refugees have been relocated in the U.S., the majority of whom have moved to Texas (180), California (171), Michigan (159), Illinois (132), Arizona (107) and Florida (97). Thirty other states have absorbed the rest, according to numbers compiled by the State Department.
In the U.S., a number of factors go into where refugees are moved, says Sarah Margon, Washington Director of Human Rights Watch. Refugees are relocated through negotiations between the federal government and non-governmental organizations called VOLAGs (voluntary agencies), which contract with the State Department. Those NGOs help determine which communities are right for relocation based on factors like housing availability. At the same time, refugees can also indicate if they have family in the U.S. and can try to be reunited with relatives, which can help direct where they’re relocated.
Refugee communities take root in certain cities for a number of reasons. Minneapolis, for example, is home to a large Somali population that began moving to the area in the early 1990s during the Somali civil war. A sizable Hmong population relocated in Wisconsin after fleeing Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War. One of the largest waves of refugees ever to make it to the U.S. were the Vietnamese “boat people,” who fled Vietnam in the late 1970s and largely settled in California

The states that have taken in the most Syrian refugees are sizable and can handle a bigger influx of people looking to resettle. California has historically taken in large numbers of refugees, and Texas—despite the perception of being anti-immigrant—has actually led the U.S. in refugee resettlement (http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150104-in-texas-refugees-find-a-future.ece) over the last four years. Some areas already have communities with a long-established Middle Eastern presence. Dearborn, Mich., for example, has a large Arab-American population that stretches back to the late 19th century, and the state has continued taking in refugees from war-torn Arab countries over the last decade. Margon says that any new influx of Syrian refugees will likely look to states that already have significant Middle Eastern populations.

[DarrinS]

Send them to Austin

[m>s]

I've been playing the knockout game on every mudshit on sight. I've knocked out 73 so far and counting. Can't wait to get back to Texas to up my count. Man woman or teen above the age of 12 is fair game to me.

[baseline bum]

We should do a one-for-one trade with Mexico for wetbacks tbh

[DarrinS]

I've been playing the knockout game on every mudshit on sight. I've knocked out 73 so far and counting. Can't wait to get back to Texas to up my count. Man woman or teen above the age of 12 is fair game to me.

Have you met KoolaidMan?

[m>s]

Every sand fuck I see is fair game HELL NO these fucks won't come to Texas and make themselves feel at home

[m>s]

My favorite moment was when I knocked out a whole Mudslime family at a gas station. Walked up and knocked momma clean out of her rag on her head, dad got mad so I dropped him next, then teenage son, then the daughter. That's better than the treatment they give Christians so I don't feel bad.

[DarrinS]

Every sand fuck I see is fair game HELL NO these fucks won't come to Texas and make themselves feel at home

The knockout game is for the brothas. Quit trying to appropriate black culture.

[SnakeBoy]

Every sand fuck I see is fair game HELL NO these fucks won't come to Texas and make themselves feel at home

thought you were busy sucking dicks in Europe.

[m>s]

Ill be back and I'll knock you out too if you like. Texas is a mutual combat state lets go

[JohnnyMarzetti]

I guess name only christians don't need to step up. Hypocrites are exempt of course.

[m>s]

I guess name only christians don't need to step up. Hypocrites are exempt of course.
Bitch shut the fuck up quit trying to use Christianity to shame us into committing suicide

[HI-FI]

My favorite moment was when I knocked out a whole Mudslime family at a gas station. Walked up and knocked momma clean out of her rag on her head, dad got mad so I dropped him next, then teenage son, then the daughter. That's better than the treatment they give Christians so I don't feel bad.
:lol

[Winehole23]

Send them to AustinBring em on. Are you scared, DarrinS?

[Winehole23]

You think war refugees wouldn't be grateful to live here?

Why or why not?

[boutons_deux]

TX libs didn't elect dubya and dickhead.

The TX Christ-like Bible humpers, gun fellators, macho wannabe cowboys, rednecks, bubbas, the "Repug base" should be first in line to take care of the Repug refugees.

[CosmicCowboy]

If Obama hadn't been such a pussy on the Syria "red line" there wouldn't be a Syrian refugee crisis.

[m>s]

the only reason germany is taking in 800k per year, is to restock its workforce for the next 5-10 yrs when around 15m ppl will be joining the baby boomers lists, they will need more young ppl working and funding that pension...

why doesnt america just allow wetbacks register for tax purposes and shit? contribute to society and pay taxes with 1 condition, cant access welfare....
Why not make Germans proud again and incentivize them to have kids instead of replacing them? They teach them to hate themselves from birth because Muh six million and promote all sorts of degeneracy and when the nation starts dying they propose to being in mudshits as a replacement? It's a crime what they are doing. I'd rather eat dog food and be poor than import mudshits.

[Th'Pusher]

If Obama hadn't been such a pussy on the Syria "red line" there wouldn't be a Syrian refugee crisis.

I seem to recall you wanting to stay the duck out of the shithole that is the ME. Now, in hindsight, we should have bombed the duck out of the Assad regime? And how exactly would that have prevented the Syrian refugee crisis?

[CosmicCowboy]

I seem to recall you wanting to stay the duck out of the shithole that is the ME. Now, in hindsight, we should have bombed the duck out of the Assad regime? And how exactly would that have prevented the Syrian refugee crisis?

At the time there was probably a deal to be done with Turkey. Problem was figuring out how to broker a Turkey/Kurd/UN/US alliance. Kurds were doing the fighting against ISIS for the US and Turkey doesn't like the Kurds. Too later now.

[boutons_deux]

If Obama hadn't been such a pussy on the Syria "red line" there wouldn't be a Syrian refugee crisis.

how many 1000s more of US military and $100Bs more do you want to waste trying to stop Repugs' unstoppable Middle East disaster?

[boutons_deux]

"But almost from the start, Assad was marked by the George W. Bush administration for “regime change.” Then, in the early years of Barack Obama’s presidency, there were some attempts at diplomatic engagement, but shortly after a civil conflict broke out in 2011, the legacy of official U.S. hostility toward Syria set in motion Washington’s disastrous confrontation with Assad which continues to this day.

Thus, the history of the Bush administration’s approach toward Syria is important to understand. Shortly after 9/11, former NATO Commander Wesley Clark learned from a Pentagon source that Syria was on the same hit list as Iraq. As Clark recalled (http://www.salon.com/2011/11/26/wes_clark_and_the_neocon_dream/), the Bush administration “wanted us to destabilize the Middle East, turn it upside down, make it under our control.”

Sure enough, in a May 2002 speech titled “Beyond the Axis of Evil,” Under Secretary of State John Bolton named (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1971852.stm) Syria as one of a handful of “rogue states” along with Iraq that “can expect to become our targets.” Assad’s conciliatory and cooperative gestures were brushed aside.

The Assad regime received no credit from President Bush or Vice President Dick Cheney for becoming what scholar Kilic Bugra Kanat has called (http://setav.org/en/a-tale-of-four-augusts-obamas-syria-policy/book/18560) “one of the CIA’s most effective intelligence allies in the fight against terrorism.”

Not only did the regime provide life-saving intelligence on planned al-Qaeda attacks, it did the CIA’s dirty work of interrogating terrorism suspects “rendered” by the United States from Afghanistan and other theaters.

Syria’s opposition to the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 and its suspected involvement (https://consortiumnews.com/2011/011711.html) in the February 2005 assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri deepened the administration’s hostility toward Damascus.

Covertly, Washington began collaborating with Saudi Arabia to back Islamist opposition groups including the Muslim Brotherhood, according to journalist Seymour Hersh (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/03/05/070305fa_fact_hersh?currentPage=all). One key beneficiary was said to be Abdul Halim Khaddam, a former Syrian vice president who defected to the West in 2005. In March 2006, Khaddam joined with the chief of Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood to create the National Salvation Front (https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DAMASCUS1357_a.html), with the goal of ousting Assad.

Thanks to Wikileaks, we know that key Lebanese politicians, acting in concert with Saudi leaders, urged Washington (https://search.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06BEIRUT2735_a.html) to support Khaddam as a tactic to accomplish “complete regime change in Syria” and to address “the bigger problem” of Iran."

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/20/the-us-hand-in-the-syrian-mess/

For you totally biased, deaf rightwingnut dubya suckers, the Syrian MESS was started and fanned by the your adored Repugs, long before they retired wealthily an dumped it on Obama. Thanks, Repugs!

[ChumpDumper]

At the time there was probably a deal to be done with Turkey. Problem was figuring out how to broker a Turkey/Kurd/UN/US alliance. Kurds were doing the fighting against ISIS for the US and Turkey doesn't like the Kurds. Too later now.lol thinking that was possible.

[Trill Clinton]

If Obama hadn't been such a pussy on the Syria "red line" there wouldn't be a Syrian refugee crisis.
http://i58.tinypic.com/2i6gzyh.gif

[Barack Obama]

If Obama hadn't been such a pussy on the Syria "red line" there wouldn't be a Syrian refugee crisis.
https://reclaimourrepublic.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/obama-finger.jpg

[hater]

the entire US political spectrum bailed at the idea of starting a war in Syria. It was in the US plans but the US public outcry is what stopped it.

The politicians on both sides of the isle were terrified if they had gone along with the war they would have been crucified in the next elections. All pussied out IMO.

BTW even if US had gone into war, it would not have changed the refugee crisis much. Oh and the ISIS flag would be waving in Damascus as well.

[RandomGuy]

Send them to Austin

The problem is that not only are a lot of the refugees Syrian, a lot of them are Iraqi.

We bear direct responsibility for both.

There would be no ISIS if Saddam was still there, and there would be no destabilized Iraq were it not for our invasion and fucked up occupation.

Goddamn Republican policy failures that we will take decades to fix, if ever. Fuck.

[Spurminator]

I'm confused, are people being asked to take refugees into their own homes?

[JohnnyMarzetti]

Bitch shut the fuck up quit trying to use Christianity to shame us into committing suicide

So you are all talk? Not surprising. :rolleyes

[tlongII]

O
The problem is that not only are a lot of the refugees Syrian, a lot of them are Iraqi.

We bear direct responsibility for both.

There would be no ISIS if Saddam was still there, and there would be no destabilized Iraq were it not for our invasion and fucked up occupation.

Goddamn Republican policy failures that we will take decades to fix, if ever. Fuck.

Oh, so you think Saddam should still be there? Interesting.

[RandomGuy]

I'm confused, are people being asked to take refugees into their own homes?

Who know what the spluttering right in the country is saying anymore?

Conservatives use to have a more coherent narrative.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

Who know what the spluttering right in the country is saying anymore?

Conservatives use to have a more coherent narrative.

They did?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm confused, are people being asked to take refugees into their own homes?Just like all those in favor of invading Iraq immediately enlisted, remember?

[DarrinS]

The problem is that not only are a lot of the refugees Syrian, a lot of them are Iraqi.

We bear direct responsibility for both.

There would be no ISIS if Saddam was still there, and there would be no destabilized Iraq were it not for our invasion and fucked up occupation.

Goddamn Republican policy failures that we will take decades to fix, if ever. Fuck.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/06/iraq_sunnis_and_shiites_the_u_s_should_never_have_ withdrawn_its_troops_in.html

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/06/iraq_sunnis_and_shiites_the_u_s_should_never_have_ withdrawn_its_troops_in.htmlTheir government asked us to leave and Bush agreed to it.

[RandomGuy]

O

Oh, so you think Saddam should still be there? Interesting.

Not quite what I said, although given the choice between ISIS and Saddam... eyuch, hard to say, which I would prefer. Which evil is/was lesser?

I can say that the totalitarian police state run by Saddam would have been much less likely to have allowed ISIS to form than the weak corrupt government in Iraq currently.

[ChumpDumper]

Saddam was completely neutered and didn't use any of his alleged stockpiles of WMD even in the most desperate of circumstances. Sure hindsight is 20/20, but the argument can be made.

Also we could have thought twice about disbanding the Iraqi army.

Or outlawing all the Baathists in one fell swoop.

Those two things could have prevented the insurgency and ISIS altogether.

[m>s]

So you are all talk? Not surprising. :rolleyes
You're all talk, how many n!ggers and Syrians are you housing and feeding? Shut tthe fuck up do-gooder

[boutons_deux]

Their government asked us to leave and Bush agreed to it.

Americans required criminal immunity for US military and contractors under SOFA, Iraqis said no, so dubya's agreement was to pull out.

Obama implemented dubya's agreement.

Slate can GFY.

[hater]

O

Oh, so you think Saddam should still be there? Interesting.

Of course..taking saddam out was the beginning of the end

[hater]

Remember when Egyptian dictator was taken out. And a few months later US, Israel and Saudi installed him back in :lol Egypt without a dictator woulda been Iraq x 1000000

[TheGreatYacht]

This shit's crazy. Fuck you Bush

[TheSanityAnnex]

Lot of Texas libs in here and little to no talk about the actual OP.

Will you be welcoming the refugees like the Germans? Do you want them in your communities and as your neighbors? Will you invite them to your backyard BBQ's? Will you serve smoked pork butt?

[JohnnyMarzetti]

Lot of Texas libs in here and little to no talk about the actual OP.

Will you be welcoming the refugees like the Germans? Do you want them in your communities and as your neighbors? Will you invite them to your backyard BBQ's? Will you serve smoked pork butt?

Jesus would. What about all you bible thumpers and your christianity? Total bullshit.

[Spurminator]

Lot of Texas libs in here and little to no talk about the actual OP.

Will you be welcoming the refugees like the Germans? Do you want them in your communities and as your neighbors? Will you invite them to your backyard BBQ's? Will you serve smoked pork butt?

If it's been decided that we have the capacity and resources to take in and give aid/shelter to 10K refugees then I'm not opposed to that. We're the wealthiest nation on the planet, we should be able to accommodate 10,000 refugees.

I don't plan on treating them any differently than any other person.

Why the hostility towards legal immigrants?

[TheSanityAnnex]

If it's been decided that we have the capacity and resources to take in and give aid/shelter to 10K refugees then I'm not opposed to that. We're the wealthiest nation on the planet, we should be able to accommodate 10,000 refugees.

I don't plan on treating them any differently than any other person.

Why the hostility towards legal immigrants?
The plan is for near 100,000...10,000 just the start.

And where was I hostile? I'm just curious how welcoming you all will be.

[Spurminator]

The plan is for near 100,000...10,000 just the start.

Link?


And where was I hostile? I'm just curious how welcoming you all will be.

Why would/should we be any more "welcoming" than we are towards normal legal immigrants? I'm probably going to have no real life interaction with them whatsoever.

[hater]

I'd welcome them. I'm a great human being after all. Still doesn't take from the fact that Europe is fucked and we are also welcoming thousands of sleeper cells.

[boutons_deux]

Before the xenophobic, racist rightwing was dictating US refugee policy, another American LOST war of choice:

From Refugees To Americans: Thirty Years Of Vietnamese Immigration To The United States

http://www.ilw.com/articles/2006,0313-campi.shtm

[TheSanityAnnex]

Link?



Why would/should we be any more "welcoming" than we are towards normal legal immigrants? I'm probably going to have no real life interaction with them whatsoever.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/11/democrats-urge-us-take-100000-syrian-refugees/

[DarrinS]

Islamists n Germany sending out welcome wagons

http://news.yahoo.com/islamists-germany-trying-recruit-young-refugees-093024733.html;_ylt=AwrC1C4SyvJVfhMAoLvQtDMD;_ylu= X3oDMTByZnU4cmNpBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM5BHZ0aWQDBHNlYw Nzcg--

[Spurminator]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/11/democrats-urge-us-take-100000-syrian-refugees/

That's not a plan, that's a statement from two representatives.

It wouldn't surprise me if we did take on more eventually. 10K is a drop in the bucket.

This is the only "planning" I could find about us taking more though:


On Wednesday, Secretary of State John Kerry said at a closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill that the total number of refugees taken in by the United States could rise to more than 100,000, from the current figure of 70,000. State Department officials said that not all of the additional 30,000 would be Syrians, but many would be.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/11/world/middleeast/obama-directs-administration-to-accept-10000-syrian-refugees.html

[TheSanityAnnex]

That's not a plan, that's a statement from two representatives.Two top representatives sitting on the committee dealing with immigration. Anyways, I heard Earnest mumbling about it on the news yesterday. Tried to find a link and this was all I could find. Maybe I mistook what he said.

[ChumpDumper]

What is the point of the op?

[TheSanityAnnex]

What is the point of the op?

To get a feel for how Texas libs on this board feel about the incoming Syrian refugees to Texas. So far only one has answered. Will you be the second?

[Blizzardwizard]

I'm confused, are people being asked to take refugees into their own homes?

It's a requirement, according to cons, because apparently there isn't enough land and not enough money to build houses on said land.

Oh and because Dey Took Er Jerbs!

[TheSanityAnnex]

It's a requirement, according to cons, because apparently there isn't enough land and not enough money to build houses on said land.

Oh and because Dey Took Er Jerbs!

Syria's neighboring countries have plenty of land and money to build houses on said land.

[Drachen]

I know that the point of this thread was to rabble rouse, buy I have a serious question about who to contact to help these people. I have several friends with extra rooms that they are willing to offer and some without room could help support. If anyone knows of which organizations can help, please point me in that direction. The only things that I've been able to come up with are all in Europe

[TheGreatYacht]

I know that the point of this thread was to rabble rouse, buy I have a serious question about who to contact to help these people. I have several friends with extra rooms that they are willing to offer and some without room could help support. If anyone knows of which organizations can help, please point me in that direction. The only things that I've been able to come up with are all in Europe
You and your friend are great people. Mind I ask what party you support?

[JoeChalupa]

You and your friend are great people. Mind I ask what party you support?

Why does that matter? Compassion for human beings should be universal.

[TheGreatYacht]

Why does that matter? Compassion for human beings should be universal.
Someone should've told the right-wing then

[Drachen]

You and your friend are great people. Mind I ask what party you support?

Center left though in presidential elections I've never voted for either of the big two.

[Drachen]

Center left though in presidential elections I've never voted for either of the big two.

Though I know someone from the county Republican party organization who raises funds for and donates books, especially dictionaries to kids throughout the city and supports gay marriage. It takes all kinds.

[tlongII]

Not quite what I said, although given the choice between ISIS and Saddam... eyuch, hard to say, which I would prefer. Which evil is/was lesser?

I can say that the totalitarian police state run by Saddam would have been much less likely to have allowed ISIS to form than the weak corrupt government in Iraq currently.

No it's not what you said. But I believe we can't put up with that shit.

[baseline bum]

O

Oh, so you think Saddam should still be there? Interesting.

Yes, he should, for the same reason I hope Assad holds onto power in Syria. A secular dictator in power is so much better for our interests than some lunatic islamic group.

[Splits]

Yes, he should, for the same reason I hope Assad holds onto power in Syria. A secular dictator in power is so much better for our interests than some lunatic islamic group.

This.

Saddam, Ghadaffi, Assad, and Mubarak in power are much better than the current alternatives. There's a reason they were there in the first place. We prop up plenty of despotic regimes worldwide. I don't hear tfaggotII urging for removal of the Saud's despite being one of the most horrific human rights violators in the world.

[ChumpDumper]

To get a feel for how Texas libs on this board feel about the incoming Syrian refugees to Texas. So far only one has answered. Will you be the second?Feel?

It's fine.

Do you have a problem with them?

How do you feel about them?

[boutons_deux]

We know how you TX bubbas, rednecks, racists have acted against refugees

KLAN INFLAMES GULF FISHING FIGHT BETWEEN WHITES AND VIETNAMESE

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/04/25/us/klan-inflames-gulf-fishing-fight-between-whites-and-vietnamese.html

[TheSanityAnnex]

Feel?

It's fine.

Do you have a problem with them?

How do you feel about them?
As long as they live near you and not me I've got no problem with them.

your city soon
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=d01_1441973503

[ChumpDumper]

As long as they live near you and not me I've got no problem with them.

your city soon
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=d01_1441973503Your life is ruled by scare media. You know that, don't you?

[CosmicCowboy]

We know how you TX bubbas, rednecks, racists have acted against refugees

KLAN INFLAMES GULF FISHING FIGHT BETWEEN WHITES AND VIETNAMESE

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/04/25/us/klan-inflames-gulf-fishing-fight-between-whites-and-vietnamese.html

I was living in the Clear Lake/NASA/ Kema area when this was going on. It was funny as hell. Gulf Shrimp back then was expensive as hell because there was more demand than supply. Those white trash shrimpers would go out, get a load, and then come back and stay rip roaring drunk until they ran out of money and then would go back out for another load. The Vietnamese moved in and just kicked their asses. They lived 30 to a slum house and worked their asses off. They would build a boat and then would stay out fishing and making money while the wife/brothers/cousins built their next boat in the front yard. before you knew it there was a whole vietnamese fleet and they put the white trash shrimpers out of business. I and most of the other locals totally supported the Vietnamese.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Your life is ruled by scare media. You know that, don't you?

You think that is scary lol

[ChumpDumper]

You think that is scary lolPlease explain your motivation for posting it and don't be a bleeding pussy about it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Please explain your motivation for posting it and don't be a bleeding pussy about it.

Your city soon is a straight forward explanation.

[m>s]

Please explain your motivation for posting it and don't be a bleeding pussy about it.
Man you overuse than one when really you're the effeminate one with a vagina before anyone else

[ChumpDumper]

Your city soon is a straight forward explanation.So you are predicting fighting in the streets and police in riot gear in Austin.

Yep, you're trying to scare people.

And you're being a bleeding pussy about it.

Just say what you mean for once. It's no secret that you are easily manipulated by scare media.

[ChumpDumper]

Man you overuse than one when really you're the effeminate one with a vagina before anyone elseYou're just salty because I destroyed your drowned Syrian kid conspiracy theory with one click of my mouse.

It's got to feel terrible getting that kind of a beatdown.

[m>s]

Dude you've been getting pummeled all over this board by multiple posters for about 3 or 4 years now, cling to whatever little victories you can

[ChumpDumper]

Dude you've been getting pummeled all over this board by multiple posters for about 3 or 4 years now, cling to whatever moral victories you canYou tried to claim internet victory over a typo.

[m>s]

Not really I was just pestering you like you always do. Typo victories are your thing.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So you are predicting fighting in the streets and police in riot gear in Austin.

Yep, you're trying to scare people.

And you're being a bleeding pussy about it.

Just say what you mean for once. It's no secret that you are easily manipulated by scare media.



You act as if the video was staged. You act as if they will magically assimilate and be good ol Texans. You are naive to think the Middle Eastern "refugees" will not bring the same problems to your city they've brought to everywhere else they've relocated in Europe.

Why has Sweden seen a MASSIVE spike in rapes?

[ChumpDumper]

You act as if the video was staged. You act as if they will magically assimilate and be good ol Texans. You are naive to think the Middle Eastern "refugees" will not bring the same problems to your city they've brought to everywhere else they've relocated in Europe. So you''re totally not try to scare anyone.

lol

Just admit it, dude. It's OK to want to scare people. The people who control your life do it all the time.


Why has Sweden seen a MASSIVE spike in rapes?Show me a list of the historical data. I'm sure you have it handy since you brought it up.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So you''re totally not try to scare anyone.

lol

Just admit it, dude. It's OK to want to scare people. The people who control your life do it all the time.not trying to scare, laughing at the naivety.


Show me a list of the historical data. I'm sure you have it handy since you brought it up.


https://affes.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/uppehall_valdtakt_1980_20081.jpg

bars=granted asylum
line=reported rape

There is your data. Now answer the question.

[ChumpDumper]

not trying to scare, laughing at the naivety. Of course you're trying to scare people. You want others to be as scared as you are.





https://affes.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/uppehall_valdtakt_1980_20081.jpg

bars=granted asylum
line=reported rape

There is your data. Now answer the question.Sure, I'll answer. Sweden changed the way it records reported rapes in 2005.

Were you aware of this?

Yes or no.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Of course you're trying to scare people. You want others to be as scared as you are.




Sure, I'll answer. Sweden changed the way it records reported rapes in 2005.

Were you aware of this?

Yes or no.
Yes.

And it has continually risen since than. 11% increase between 2013 and 2014. Why the increase?

[ChumpDumper]

Yes.

And it has continually risen since than. 11% increase between 2013 and 2014.Why did you only show the spike ending in 2008?

That's incredibly disingenuous of you -- you threw out that graph hoping no one else would know the real reason for the spike.

You're trying to scare people and it's pretty despicable.


Why the increase?I don't know.

Are you claiming to know the religion of every rapist in Sweden?

Show me those stats since you proved you lie about these things to suit your scare tactic agenda.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why did you only show the spike ending in 2008?

That's incredibly disingenuous of you -- you threw out that graph hoping no one else would know the real reason for the spike.

You're trying to scare people and it's pretty despicable.

I don't know.

Are you claiming to know the religion of every rapist in Sweden?

Show me those stats since you proved you lie about these things to suit your scare tactic agenda.
:lol I didn't make the graph or cut off any years. The fuck are you talking about? Rates should have leveled off after 2005 but they didn't. They continuously rose with influx of granted asylums. You are naive to think that an influx of men who have no respect for women in their own country will magically gain that respect in a new country. Keep your head in the sand and get yourself a shiny new rape whistle.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol I didn't make the graph or cut off any years. The fuck are you talking about? Rates should have leveled off after 2005 but they didn't. They continuously rose with influx of granted asylums. You are naive to think that an influx of men who have no respect for women in their own country will magically gain that respect in a new country. Keep your head in the sand and get yourself a shiny new rape whistle.So you don't have any statistics regarding the nationality or religion of the rapists and made up your theory of causation simply out of your personal bias.

:tu

:cry I predict massive rape and riots in Austin. :cry

[TheSanityAnnex]

So you don't have any statistics regarding the nationality or religion of the rapists and made up your theory of causation simply out of your personal bias.

:tu

:cry I predict massive rape and riots in Austin. :cry
It's impossible to provide statistics when Sweden stopped recording nationality of rapists, you ever wonder why?

Why does neighboring Denmark who reports rapes similarly, not having the same rape problems Sweden is having?

It's amusing watching you try to deny that Muslim men are more prone to rape than Swedish men.

[ChumpDumper]

It's impossible to provide statistics when Sweden stopped recording nationality of rapists, you ever wonder why?

Why does neighboring Denmark who reports rapes similarly having the same rape problems Sweden is having?

It's amusing watching you try to deny that Muslim men are more prone to rape than Swedish men.I don't know that. Maybe they are.

The only proof you have of that in Sweden is your own personal bias -- and now you just broke out the "ever wonder why" conspiracy talk.

lol

In short, you're lying and moving the goalpost every time you get shot down.

Keep trying -- maybe you'll legitimately scare somebody someday. Try pasting another unsourced ar15 forum post here.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't know that. Maybe they are.

The only proof you have of that in Sweden is your own personal bias -- and now you just broke out the "ever wonder why" conspiracy talk.

lol

In short, you're lying and moving the goalpost every time you get shot down.

Keep trying -- maybe you'll legitimately scare somebody someday. Try pasting another unsourced ar15 forum post here.
You don't know that? Maybe they are? :lmao now you're just trolling

I can't give you stats Sweden refuses to record. I've provided you with information to draw your own conclusions but you'd rather stick your head in the sand. I can't help you anymore.

[TheSanityAnnex]

And you conveniently skipped over my Denmark question.

[SocialJusticeWarrior]

Clearly the rape epidemic in Sweden is because of all the cis-male scum manspreading on the subway and misgendering people!

[m>s]

I don't know that. Maybe they are.

The only proof you have of that in Sweden is your own personal bias -- and now you just broke out the "ever wonder why" conspiracy talk.

lol

In short, you're lying and moving the goalpost every time you get shot down.

Keep trying -- maybe you'll legitimately scare somebody someday. Try pasting another unsourced ar15 forum post here.lmao you are such a dishonest fuck. Country had extremely low crime rates including rape since forever. Millions of men move in from places that don't respect women and actually have a real "rape culture." Then rapes skyrocket.

"hur but idk If the Muslims are the cause durr need more proof."

you're disrespecting the women who have been failed by their government and had to suffer this. You really piss me off you sleazebag

[ChumpDumper]

You don't know that? Maybe they are? :lmao now you're just trolling

I can't give you stats Sweden refuses to record. I've provided you with information to draw your own conclusions but you'd rather stick your head in the sand. I can't help you anymore.You provided me with innuendo and your personal bias.

You proved you are full of shit more than once here. I can't help you not be full of shit; I can only point out that you are full of shit..


And you conveniently skipped over my Denmark question.Because we're talking about Sweden and I won't let you move the goalposts into a completely different country. Own your failure.

[ChumpDumper]

lmao you are such a dishonest fuck. Country had extremely low crime rates including rape since forever. Millions of men move in from places that don't respect women and actually have a real "rape culture." Then rapes skyrocket.

"hur but idk If the Muslims are the cause durr need more proof."

you're disrespecting the women who have been failed by their government and had to suffer this. You really piss me off you sleazebaglol skyrocket.

I know you have no idea about the 2005 law change and would just lie about it if you did.

Just like TSA lied about it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You provided me with innuendo and your personal bias.

You proved you are full of shit more than once here. I can't help you not be full of shit; I can only point out that you are full of shit..

Because we're talking about Sweden and I won't let you move the goalposts into a completely different country. Own your failure.
Denmark is very relevant as they report rapes in the same fashion as Sweden has since 2005. You would expect their rape cases to be half of Swedens being they are half the size population. But it's not even close. What is the main difference between Denmark and Sweden's populations besides size?

Your Muslim rape shielding is despicable.

:lol "I don't know if Muslim men rape more than Swedish men :lol

for fucks sake

[m>s]

muh law change

we all know that the swedish government is criminal and cannot be trusted to tell the truth. what people know is that these types of crimes are becoming very common.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/03/immigrant-to-sweden-rapes-12-year-old-girl-gets-community-service/

community service for raping a 12 year old. this is sweden for you.

[TheSanityAnnex]

"hur but idk If the Muslims are the cause durr need more proof."


"I need the breakdown of Sweden's rapists nationality"

>Sweden stopped recording nationality of rapists

"haha no conclusions can be drawn haha I win all nationalities rape the same "

[m>s]

"I need the breakdown of Sweden's rapists nationality"

>Sweden stopped recording nationality of rapists

"haha no conclusions can be drawn haha I win all nationalities rape the same "

yeah lol there's a very real reason why they did that. it might paint a picture that they don't want people seeing.

[Nbadan]

If Obama hadn't been such a pussy on the Syria "red line" there wouldn't be a Syrian refugee crisis.

Assad never gassed his people....the rebels did to frame Assad...your an idiot...

[DarrinS]

Assad never gassed his people....the rebels did to frame Assad...your an idiot...

Lol

[Nbadan]

Lol

Fucken grammar police...that's what the DS crowd is reduced too...

[Spurminator]

your city soon
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=d01_1441973503

:lol Can we bump this when it doesn't happen in any American city? How long should we give it? A month? A year?

[Splits]

:lol Can we bump this when it doesn't happen in any American city? How long should we give it? A month? A year?

Not to mention that the fight was between Turks and Kurds, not Syrian immigrants. But to racists like TSA if they're brown or muslim, there is no difference.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Not to mention that the fight was between Turks and Kurds, not Syrian immigrants. But to racists like TSA if they're brown or muslim, there is no difference.Compared to Swedish men, do you deny that Muslim men are more violent and treat their women worse?

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lol Can we bump this when it doesn't happen in any American city? How long should we give it? A month? A year?

Bookmark it and bump it. I'm sure we'll all get a good laugh in 20 years when we are dealing with what Europe is dealing with today.

[ChumpDumper]

Compared to Swedish men, do you deny that Muslim men are more violent and treat their women worse?You r claim is they are doing more of the raping in Sweden, so prove it with something that is not pulled straight out of your fear mongering ass.

[ChumpDumper]

Bookmark it and bump it. I'm sure we'll all get a good laugh in 20 years when we are dealing with what Europe is dealing with today.Join the Klan already.

[Splits]

Compared to Swedish men, do you deny that Muslim men are more violent and treat their women worse?

What does that have to do with you posting a link of a fight in Germany between Turks and Kurds when your fear-mongering thread is about Syrians?

[TheSanityAnnex]

What does that have to do with you posting a link of a fight in Germany between Turks and Kurds when your fear-mongering thread is about Syrians?
Threads evolved. Answer the question.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You r claim is they are doing more of the raping in Sweden, so prove it with something that is not pulled straight out of your fear mongering ass.You keep avoiding answering simple questions. Try again.

Since the 2005 rape reporting changes in Sweden the rape rate has steadily increased as immigrants increased. Do you deny that?

And why do you think Sweden no longer records the nationality of the rapist? You never answered that either.

[ChumpDumper]

You keep avoiding answering simple questions. Try again.You keep trying to move the goalposts.


Since the 2005 rape reporting changes in Sweden the rape rate has steadily increased as immigrants increased. Do you deny that? Actually it went down a few years back, so again you are full of shit.


And why do you think Sweden no longer records the nationality of the rapist? You never answered that either.When did they record them? Surely you have those statistics handy.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You keep trying to move the goalposts.you keep avoiding answering the question so I ask another one.


Actually it went down a few years back, so again you are full of shit.link? And again no comment on the 11% rise from 2013-14


When did they record them? Surely you have those statistics handy.stopped sometime in the late 80' early 90's I believe.


Admitting that Muslim men rape at a higher rate than Swedish men doesn't make you a racist. Continue to deny it though, it's quite funny.

[ChumpDumper]

you keep avoiding answering the question so I ask another one.Actually i answer the question and you move the goalpost. Often to another country.


link? http://www.acting-man.com/blog/media/2015/09/valdtakt_forsok_fullbordade_1975-2014.png

Why did it go down those years? Explain.


And again no comment on the 11% rise from 2013-14already commented on it. You made the claim -- you need to provide the proof. You failed to do so.

Answer this: when a rape is reported, does Sweden count it for the year in which it was alleged to have happened or the year it was reported?


stopped sometime in the late 80' early 90's I believe. link? and link to the reason? You can't demand links from me and try to get away with this "I believe" shit.



Admitting that Muslim men rape at a higher rate than Swedish men doesn't make you a racist. Continue to deny it though, it's quite funny.I'm asking you for proof of your claim. You keep pussing out and getting angry about it. It's quite funny.

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao That's your evidence, David? The trendline on that graph would show an overwhelming increase.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao That's your evidence, David? The trendline on that graph would show an overwhelming increase.Why would it ever go down, David?

And I'll ask you to show causation here as well if you are making the same claim as TSA.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Actually i answer the question and you move the goalpost. Often to another country.

http://www.acting-man.com/blog/media/2015/09/valdtakt_forsok_fullbordade_1975-2014.png

Why did it go down those years? Explain.

already commented on it. You made the claim -- you need to provide the proof. You failed to do so.

Answer this: when a rape is reported, does Sweden count it for the year in which it was alleged to have happened or the year it was reported?

link? and link to the reason? You can't demand links from me and try to get away with this "I believe" shit.


I'm asking you for proof of your claim. You keep pussing out and getting angry about it. It's quite funny.

Claiming a goalpost move holds no weight when they are direct responses to questions you posed.

nice graph btw. Now overlay the amount of immigrants granted asylum on the same time frame.


And :lol at your two years. Very convincing case you are making considering every other year goes up.

[ChumpDumper]

Claiming a goalpost move holds no weight when they are direct responses to questions you posed.No they are goalpost moves. Now you are just flat out refusing to answer.


nice graph btw. Now overlay the amount of immigrants granted asylum on the same time frame. Why would it ever go down?



And :lol at your two years. Very convincing case you are making considering every other year goes up.Why would it ever go down?

You need to stop pouting and answer the questions I asked.

How are rapes recorded timewise?

Where is the link and reasons I asked for?

Quit pussing out and answer my questions.

[TheSanityAnnex]

No they are goalpost moves. Now you are just flat out refusing to answer.

Why would it ever go down?


Why would it ever go down?

You need to stop pouting and answer the questions I asked.

How are rapes recorded timewise?

Where is the link and reasons I asked for?

Quit pussing out and answer my questions.
You've got about five unanswered questions before you can start demanding answers from me.

:lol not upset

[ChumpDumper]

You've got about five unanswered questions before you can start demanding answers from me.

:lol not upset:lol you're still pouting.

Why would the rate ever go down?

How are rapes recorded timewise?

Where is the link and reasons I asked for?

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lol you're still pouting.

Why would the rate ever go down?

How are rapes recorded timewise?

Where is the link and reasons I asked for?

I'm just waiting for my questions to be answered first.

[Clipper Nation]

Why would it ever go down, David?

Do you not know what a trend or a trendline is, David? Or are you so cucked that you're willing to play dumb if it suits your agenda?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm just waiting for my questions to be answered first.which ones?

You can work on these and stop pouting.

Why would the rate ever go down?

How are rapes recorded timewise?

Where is the link and reasons I asked for?


Do you not know what a trend or a trendline is, David? Or are you so cucked that you're willing to play dumb if it suits your agenda?Why would the rate ever go down, David?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Do you not know what a trend or a trendline is, David? Or are you so cucked that you're willing to play dumb if it suits your agenda?

All nationalities in Sweden rape at the same rate the trendline means nothing lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

which ones?

You can work on these and stop pouting.

Why would the rate ever go down?

How are rapes recorded timewise?

Where is the link and reasons I asked for?

Why would the rate ever go down?
No you can go back and answer them before anything.

[ChumpDumper]

All nationalities in Sweden rape at the same rate the trendline means nothing lolWhat are the rates of rape for each nationality?

[ChumpDumper]

No you can go back and answer them before anything.Let me know which ones I didn't answer.

Quit pouting, you look like an even bigger pussy tonight.

Here are the questions you have failed to answer:

How are rapes recorded timewise?

Where is the link and reasons I asked for?

Why would the rate ever go down?

I'm sure there are more but I'll settle for these tonight.

Quit pouting and make a list for me.

[TheSanityAnnex]

What are the rates of rape for each nationality?
Already answered. Sweden doesn't record so they are all the same :lol

[m>s]

What are the rates of rape for each nationality?
They don't keep track of crime rates by nationality, idiot. They do this so that people won't see what immigrants are doing to their society.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Let me know which ones I didn't answer.

Quit pouting, you look like an even bigger pussy tonight.

Here are the questions you have failed to answer:

How are rapes recorded timewise?

Where is the link and reasons I asked for?

Why would the rate ever go down?

I'm sure there are more but I'll settle for these tonight.

Quit pouting and make a list for me.
You'll settle for these tonight? Lol some life you live. I'll come back tomorrow and see if you've answered any questions.

[ChumpDumper]

Already answered. Sweden doesn't record so they are all the same :lolNo, they probably aren't. That doesn't mean you can just make them up like you are trying to do.


They don't keep track of crime rates by nationality, idiot. They do this so that people won't see what immigrants are doing to their society.Do they? Did they ever record nationality? When did they stop? TSA is pouting too much to answer.


You'll settle for these tonight? Lol some life you live. I'll come back tomorrow and see if you've answered any questions.I'll wait for you to tell me which ones you want answered. Otherwise, I can safely conclude that you are just being a pouty pussy and will never answer any questions again.

:crySome life you live.:cry

[Clipper Nation]

Why would the rate ever go down?

So you don't know how trends work, then, David. Wow, you are really stupid. Then again, you're a libtard, so I guess you'd have to be.

[m>s]

This article has most of the answers that you are seeking.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

"Since 2000, there has only been one research report (http://www.adlibris.com/se/bok/ar-kulturgenererad-grov-brottslighet-myt-eller-verklighet-brottsoffer-och-garningsman-vid-grova-brottmal-i-svea-hovratt-2002-9789185335817) on immigrant crime. It was done in 2006 by Ann-Christine Hjelm from Karlstads University.
It emerged that in 2002, 85% of those sentenced to at least two years in prison for rape in Svea Hovrätt, a court of appeals, were foreign born or second-generation immigrants.
A 1996 report (http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/05/08/br-1996-2-invandrares-och-invandrares-barns-brottslighet-1/) by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention reached the conclusion that immigrants from North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia) were 23 times as likely to commit rape as Swedish men. The figures for men from Iraq, Bulgaria and Romania were, respectively, 20, 18 and 18. Men from the rest of Africa were 16 times more prone to commit rape; and men from Iran, Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia, 10 times as prone as Swedish men."

[ChumpDumper]

So you don't know how trends work, then, David. Wow, you are really stupid. Then again, you're a libtard, so I guess you'd have to be.David, I asked you a direct question:

Why would it ever go down?

Are you just going to pout like TSA, David?

I've learned to expect that from you when you are cornered.


This article has most of the answers that you are seeking.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

"Since 2000, there has only been one research report (http://www.adlibris.com/se/bok/ar-kulturgenererad-grov-brottslighet-myt-eller-verklighet-brottsoffer-och-garningsman-vid-grova-brottmal-i-svea-hovratt-2002-9789185335817) on immigrant crime. It was done in 2006 by Ann-Christine Hjelm from Karlstads University.
It emerged that in 2002, 85% of those sentenced to at least two years in prison for rape in Svea Hovrätt, a court of appeals, were foreign born or second-generation immigrants.
A 1996 report (http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/05/08/br-1996-2-invandrares-och-invandrares-barns-brottslighet-1/) by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention reached the conclusion that immigrants from North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia) were 23 times as likely to commit rape as Swedish men. The figures for men from Iraq, Bulgaria and Romania were, respectively, 20, 18 and 18. Men from the rest of Africa were 16 times more prone to commit rape; and men from Iran, Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia, 10 times as prone as Swedish men."20 years ago?

That doesn't answer my questions at all.

[TheGreatYacht]

ClipperNation is a faggot

[m>s]

David, I asked you a direct question:

Why would it ever go down?

Are you just going to pout like TSA, David?

I've learned to expect that from you when you are cornered.

20 years ago?

That doesn't answer my questions at all.
It wasn't 20 years ago and it's the most current data that we have to go by as it's been said. Data from 2006 is still relevant today.

[Clipper Nation]

ClipperNation is a faggot

Are you Scott or Joe?

[Clipper Nation]

David, I asked you a direct question:

Why would it ever go down?
:lol David
:lol "Fucking trends, how do they work?"

[TheGreatYacht]

Are you Scott or Joe?
You're a faggot though..

[Clipper Nation]

You're a faggot though..

Are you Scott or Joe? Either way, you're a pillowbiter.

[TheGreatYacht]

Are you Scott or Joe? Either way, you're a pillowbiter.
Why would you wanna know? Cuck

[apalisoc_9]

the entire US political spectrum bailed at the idea of starting a war in Syria. It was in the US plans but the US public outcry is what stopped it.

The politicians on both sides of the isle were terrified if they had gone along with the war they would have been crucified in the next elections. All pussied out IMO.

BTW even if US had gone into war, it would not have changed the refugee crisis much. Oh and the ISIS flag would be waving in Damascus as well.

you should stick to foreign affairs talk...probably the only thing you're good at.

[Blizzardwizard]

ClipperNation is a faggot

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

It wasn't 20 years ago and it's the most current data that we have to go by as it's been said. Data from 2006 is still relevant today.That is not the data they presented and they completely failed to acknowledge the law change in 2005. More bullshit and bias.


:lol David
:lol "Fucking trends, how do they work?"David why would it ever go down?

Quit pouting and answer this simple question.

[Winehole23]

damn refugees:

lZf_VNY4ymk

[tlongII]

Yes, he should, for the same reason I hope Assad holds onto power in Syria. A secular dictator in power is so much better for our interests than some lunatic islamic group.

Bullshit. The dude was committing mass genocide. He had to be taken out.

[boutons_deux]

Bullshit. The dude was committing mass genocide. He had to be taken out.

Same argument about "Bad Man" Saddam. Saddam's gone but Ms more are dead, injured, displaced, including 5000+ US military wasted dead and US $Ts wasted.

Germany now expecting 1M refugees from Syria.

[Saddam]

Same argument about "Bad Man" Saddam. Saddam's gone but Ms more are dead, injured, displaced, including 5000+ US military dead and US $Ts wasted.

Germany now expecting 1M refugees from Syria.

Damn right. You all left me hanging.

[baseline bum]

Bullshit. The dude was committing mass genocide. He had to be taken out.

Same bullshit with ISIS.

[baseline bum]

Bullshit. The dude was committing mass genocide. He had to be taken out.

How come that nigga was doing that shit with Reagan's blessing?

[hater]

Bullshit. The dude was committing mass genocide. He had to be taken out.

We helped Saddam gas the Iranians just a few fears before. So should our US president have been taken out too?

[tlongII]

Same bullshit with ISIS.

Then take ISIS out too.

[m>s]

We helped Saddam gas the Iranians just a few fears before. So should our US president have been taken out too?
Yeah the double standard pisses me off. Ppl should be charged here if saddam is guilty.

[RandomGuy]

No it's not what you said. But I believe we can't put up with that shit.

There is a long list of other totalitarian police states that we put up with.

Why should Saddam have been any different?

Who should we invade next on that premise? Would you enlist for that war? Ask your kids to fight it?

I would be willing to under some circumstances, but that would be fairly limited.

[tlongII]

There is a long list of other totalitarian police states that we put up with.

Why should Saddam have been any different?

Who should we invade next on that premise? Would you enlist for that war? Ask your kids to fight it?

I would be willing to under some circumstances, but that would be fairly limited.

We should fight any state like that. I think it's our duty.

[hater]

We should fight any state like that. I think it's our duty.

How many of your children are you enlisting?

[boutons_deux]

We should fight any state like that. I think it's our duty.

our? :lol

Only the suckers who sign up for the "professional army" (usually losers with no future) get screwed directly ("our" screw job is paying for your "duty" wars, invasion, occupations)

[tlongII]

:lol that's why you join the armed forces.

[hater]

:lol that's why you join the armed forces.

:lol you join the armed forces to protect the country. Not to go depose of every dictator out there :lol

[tlongII]

:lol you join the armed forces to protect the country. Not to go depose of every dictator out there :lol

Same thing.

[hater]

Same thing.

So the dictator installed in Iran by the CIA as well as egyptian dictator Mubarak were a danger to the US?? :lol they were US puppets. Plenty others

[ChumpDumper]

So when do we invade China, tlong?

[baseline bum]

We should fight any state like that. I think it's our duty.

Are you pissed Reagan was down with Saddam's genocide?

[RandomGuy]

We should fight any state like that. I think it's our duty.

"fight"? You appear to underestimate the number of dictators in the world. We could, if we went into permanent war footing, and invaded half the planet.

Most of Africa, almost all of Asia.

[tlongII]

You guys don't get it. You want to do everything for people and then you don't.

[baseline bum]

You guys don't get it. You want to do everything for people and then you don't.

You're right, I don't get it why we should be world police and kill every evil dictator in the world. How do you propose paying for all this also?

[ChumpDumper]

And how could you fight the country that makes all your shoes and Apple pencils?

[m>s]

Exactly why they should've left Germany alone too. Wasn't worth it, everyone lost their empires, destroyed the west. We still haven't recovered from the demographic crisis caused by those two damn wars.

[Winehole23]

You're right, I don't get it why we should be world police and kill every evil dictator in the world. How do you propose paying for all this also?world police or self-defense? dude seems confused on the point.

[RandomGuy]

You guys don't get it. You want to do everything for people and then you don't.

You don't get it.

"do everything" does not include invasions and occupations.

People have to do things for themselves, we just don't have the capacity to do it all.

[boutons_deux]

“This whole anti-immigrant sentiment that’s out there in our politics right now is contrary to who we are.

Because unless you are a Native American, your family came from someplace else,” Mr. Obama said.

“Don’t pretend that somehow 100 years ago the immigration process was all smooth and strict. That’s not how it worked.”

The grandparents and great-grandparents of politicians taking a hard line on immigration, he said, were also “somehow considered unworthy or uneducated or unwashed.”

“When I hear folks talking as if somehow these kids are different from my kids or less worthy in the eyes of God, that somehow they are less worthy of our respect and consideration and care, I think that’s un-American,” Mr. Obama said.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/15/1421447/-President-Obama-Drops-The-U-Word-On-The-Republican-Party?detail=email

the communist, Muslim terrorist, crotch-saluting, foreign-born n!gg@ calling Trump and his rabble of nativists, racists, xenophobes "un-American" otta drive the rabble fucking more crazy! :lol

[MultiTroll]

Because unless you are a Native American, your family came from someplace else,” Mr. Obama said.

the communist, Muslim terrorist, crotch-saluting, foreign-born n!gg@ calling Trump and his rabble of nativists, racists, xenophobes "un-American" otta drive the rabble fucking more crazy! :lol
Yeah i think Team Dem Campaign is gonna wait until a future time to answer back to Donny Trumps spouting that has a lot of his growing supporters jizzing.

Altho i fimly believe the "born here automatic citizen" abuse is pure b.s. that needs to be addressed.
Like those wealthy chinks that did not pay the hospital maternity ward but they found credit card rign ups for rolex watches, casino bullshit etc.

Or here in good ole SoCal where border one sole PO Box had 135 food stamp, Medical etc recipients. Gov't employees were caught on tape coaching applicants what to say and write.