View Full Version : Fiorina rockets to No. 2 behind Trump in GOP field
JoeChalupa
09-20-2015, 09:25 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/20/politics/carly-fiorina-donald-trump-republican-2016-poll/index.html
Washington (CNN)—Carly Fiorina shot into second place in the Republican presidential field on the heels of another strong debate performance, and Donald Trump has lost some support, a new national CNN/ORC poll shows.
The survey, conducted in the three days after 23 million people tuned in to Wednesday night's GOP debate on CNN, shows that Trump is still the party's front-runner with 24% support. That, though, is an 8 percentage point decrease from earlier in the month when a similar poll had him at 32%.
Fiorina ranks second with 15% support -- up from 3% in early September. She's just ahead of Ben Carson's 14%, though Carson's support has also declined from 19% in the previous poll.
Driving Trump's drop and Fiorina's rise: a debate in which 31% of Republicans who watched said Trump was the loser, and 52% identified Fiorina as the winner.
~~I'm not that impressed with her but she, IMHO, ignited the inevitable downfall of Trump's entertaining campaign. It is clear her main focus is taking down Hillary.
baseline bum
09-20-2015, 09:30 AM
You're not impressed that she took HP's name down to Packard Bell levels?
ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 09:40 AM
Finally, a Republican with balls.
She has no business even being in the race.
JoeChalupa
09-20-2015, 09:42 AM
You're not impressed that she took HP's name down to Packard Bell levels?
She did what she felt she had to do and I don't really hold that against her. I do think she's got more juevos than some of the other candidates.
JoeChalupa
09-20-2015, 09:42 AM
She has no business even being in the race.
Neither do any of the others although I do like Kasich.
She did what she felt she had to do and I don't really hold that against her.
What?
ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 09:43 AM
She has no business even being in the race.I don't know how you are going to troll this forum after Trump pulls out, but it's going to be great.
DarrinS
09-20-2015, 10:08 AM
She has no business even being in the race.
Community organizers with virtually no experience can win. So, you never know.
boutons_deux
09-20-2015, 10:17 AM
She did what she felt she had to do and I don't really hold that against her. I do think she's got more juevos than some of the other candidates.
yep, you need real balls to lie before the world about seeing a video about a born baby being killed for its brain, or something. Even the Center for Medical Progress didn't jump on Carly's bandwagon of LIES. Shall we wait for Carly to produce the video?
She obviously CONNED her way up the corporate ladder, got exposed (Peter Principle kicked in WAY too late), and now is trying CON her way as Presidential candidate. America loves being CONNED (eg, St Ronnie)
JoeChalupa
09-20-2015, 11:29 AM
yep, you need real balls to lie before the world about seeing a video about a born baby being killed for its brain, or something. Even the Center for Medical Progress didn't jump on Carly's bandwagon of LIES. Shall we wait for Carly to produce the video?
She obviously CONNED her way up the corporate ladder, got exposed, and now is trying CON her way as Presidential candidate. America loves being CONNED (eg, St Ronnie)
A politician, or wannabe in her case, conning the voter!? Is anyone shocked!?!?
She was a horrible business executive... not just bad... but catastrophically bad... and that's her ONLY credential. :lol
MultiTroll
09-20-2015, 11:43 AM
US women vote.
Who is currently leading Hillory or Fiona?
Strictly party lines vote?
Lol lost the debate. According to the drudge poll almost 60% said trump won. She was second with about 15%. Trump is the next president and I see a lot of shills lately still trying to put him down. The ship has already sailed.
boutons_deux
09-20-2015, 11:49 AM
US women vote.
Who is currently leading Hillory or Fiona?
Strictly party lines vote?
Pitbull bitch in 2008 didn't help the Repugs carry the women vote, outside the Repug base, aka, marginal party line voters. CF's anti-women bullshit wouldn't do any better.
ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 11:49 AM
US women vote.
Who is currently leading Hillory or Fiona?
Strictly party lines vote?I bet there is a way to find out.
ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 11:49 AM
Lol lost the debate. According to the drudge poll almost 60% said trump won. She was second with about 15%. Trump is the next president and I see a lot of shills lately still trying to put him down. The ship has already sailed.lol internet poll
When the leftist extremists like bouton a hate you it means you're doing something right. If not for foreign policy I wouldn't be opposed to her. What's scary is she started talking about basically provoking a nuclear war with Russia. In her mind shed just punk them and that would be the end of it? Nuclear powers can't just confront one another directly, that woman would get us all killed judging by her comments.
lol internet poll
Op referenced a cnn poll which is worse. Nobody in America or the world takes cnn seriously just look at their ratings.
ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 11:54 AM
Op referenced a cnn poll which is worse. Nobody in America or the world takes cnn seriously just look at their ratings.If it's an unscientific internet poll, it's just as bad. I'm sure you don't even know why.
boutons_deux
09-20-2015, 11:59 AM
Carly Fiorina: Opponents must ‘prove to me’ they watched my non-existent fetus videos
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/carly-fiorina-opponents-must-prove-to-me-they-watched-my-non-existent-fetus-videos/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
she gives bitches a bad name.
Cnn is not honest unbiased journalism chump I'd trust the drudge poll over them
Op referenced a cnn poll which is worse. Nobody in America or the world takes cnn seriously just look at their ratings.
ratings have little to nothing to do with credibility, lol
TeyshaBlue
09-20-2015, 12:11 PM
:lol self-selecting polls
ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 12:11 PM
Cnn is not honest unbiased journalism chump I'd trust the drudge poll over them
:lol self-selecting polls:lol m<s trying to talk about honesty and bias.
ratings have little to nothing to do with credibility, lol
people got sick of their lack of credibility and that's why they stopped tuning in. their viewership has been in the gutter for years. the word is that it's been losing money and they keep it going for other reasons.
ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 12:18 PM
:cryword is:cry
lol more conspiracies!
it's not a conspiracy their viewership really is piss poor. anderson cooper and the other CNN analyst had the lowest ratings of anyone on tv.
simple google search shows they are in the gutter. their dishonest coverage of the libya conflict back in 2011 is what did it for me.
http://www.rt.com/usa/204975-cnn-ratings-plummet-ac360/
ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 12:58 PM
lol rt
lol another conspiracy theory.
RT is objectively more trustworthy than cnn, nice fail homo
ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 01:05 PM
RT is objectively more trustworthy than cnn, nice fail homo:lol objectively
OK, show me your objective proof that RT is more trustworthy.
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ChumpDumper
09-20-2015, 01:11 PM
^this poster is currently on time out for spamming and shitposting^ this poster is being a passive aggressive cuck because he's impotent and posting from his pillow fort in the suburban Metroplex.
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ElNono
09-20-2015, 02:22 PM
She's the female version of Romney with worse business credentials. But anybody going against shillary has a chance, tbh...
SnakeBoy
09-20-2015, 02:56 PM
Fiorina makes Hillary look warm & friendly but this is the time when primary voters like to flirt with people who have no chance at actually getting the nomination. A year from now we'll get to choose between Bush or Clinton. It will be an epic battle of more of the same vs more of the same.
Splits
09-20-2015, 03:05 PM
I won't totally throw RT under the bus because they do produce some quality news products, but let's not pretend they are not the state-run media arm of Putin. Literally, they're fully funded by the Russian government.
She's the female version of Romney with worse business credentials.
Even worse than that... Romney at least had an ok record as Governor of Massachusetts.
Trainwreck2100
09-20-2015, 09:22 PM
lol wasn't herman caine a number 2 at one point 4 years ago?
Infinite_limit
09-20-2015, 09:30 PM
I won't totally throw RT under the bus because they do produce some quality news products, but let's not pretend they are not the state-run media arm of Putin. Literally, they're fully funded by the Russian government.
I trust Putin
RT actually comes across as pretty fair TBH. Interesting that Larry King is actually on the network. I don't think Larry would be on it if Putin were on the other end of his headset telling him what to say.
SnakeBoy
09-21-2015, 12:46 AM
lol wasn't herman caine a number 2 at one point 4 years ago?
I think he was briefly #1 in some polls...as was Bachman, Perry, Santorum, and Gingrich.
spurraider21
09-21-2015, 01:46 AM
just like how republicans love black candidates that echo their view on race relations, i'm sure they're thrilled with having an anti-abortion female candidate
Splits
09-21-2015, 03:49 AM
just like how republicans love black candidates that echo their view on race relations, i'm sure they're thrilled with having an anti-abortion female candidate
One who's never had a child. 99% chance she had a 'bortion when she was younger
boutons_deux
09-21-2015, 06:46 AM
Don’t Coronate Carly Fiorina Just Yet
58 percent of Republicans and 64 percent of conservative Republicans want the next president to be “someone from outside the existing political establishment.”
Like the other candidates at the top of the Republican field, Fiorina seems to fit that bill. Only Fiorina isn’t a political outsider by choice, but by defeat.
Fiorina unleashed a scurrilous attack in her pitch to defund Planned Parenthood, saying of the attack videos released about the group:
“I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says, ‘We have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.’ “
In fact, the footage of the fetus was “stock footage” that “was added to the video to dramatize its content,” according to PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/17/carly-fiorina/cnn-debate-carly-fiorina-urges-others-watch-planne/), which rated Fiorina’s comments as “mostly false.”
FactCheck.org also said (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/factchecking-the-cnn-republican-debate/): “We are aware of no video showing such a scene.”
As Talking Points Memo’s Josh Marshall put it Friday (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/keeping-carlys-secret): “Fiorina has a habit of simply making things up.”
But in a way, the veracity of the attack is only one of the problems here. The other is that Fiorina would deny reproductive health services to women who have vastly fewer resources, or choices, than she does.
Adele M. Stan on Thursday captured Fiorina perfectly in a blistering assessment (http://prospect.org/article/gop-debate-fiorina-vanquishes-trump-0) in The American Prospect.
“The evil genius of Fiorina,” Stan wrote, “is her uncanny ability to play the gender warrior within the GOP while promoting the party’s misogyny.”
Stan continued: “But her feminism seems to begin and end with the fortunes of Fiorina herself, and seeing as she probably doesn’t rely on Planned Parenthood for her health care,
she’s happy to deprive millions of women of that care by promoting outright lies about the organization, as in her false description of the video she referenced.”
This distancing herself from the realities of less fortunate women is not new for Fiorina. When she became C.E.O. of Hewlett-Packard in 1999, she made thepreposterous claim (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-07-25/business/9907250127_1_glass-ceiling-carleton-s-fiorina-big-business) that “there is not a glass ceiling… My gender is interesting but really not the subject of the story here.”
How many American women pressed up against that glass would agree with her?
But after Fiorina’s memoir “Tough Choices” was released in 2006, my colleague Joe Nocera wrote a column (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/14/business/14nocera.html?pagewanted=all) entitled “Carly Fiorina’s Revisionist Chronicles” that detailed Hewlett-Packard’s lackluster performance during her tenure and stated emphatically:
“So I come here this Saturday morning to offer a simple corrective. Carly, it was about performance. And if you didn’t realize that then — and can’t admit it now — you should never have been Hewlett-Packard’s chief executive in the first place.”
We also have to ask ourselves now if Fiorina is the kind of person who should be president.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/opinion/charles-m-blow-dont-coronate-carly-fiorina-just-yet.html?_r=1
Her record at HP is totally indefensible for someone who is running for president especially when her sole credential is her executive business experience.
boutons_deux
09-21-2015, 10:49 AM
Her record at HP is totally indefensible for someone who is running for president especially when her sole credential is her executive business experience.
Politically, CF did help McLiar get destroyed in 2008, and then, running as Demon Sheep, got destroyed in 2010 by Boxer for Senate.
CF is clearly a pathological lying conbitch NOT punching above her weight.
So her political experience is getting beat twice and never having held an elected political office? Ok.
Click below. You won't regret it. :rollin
http://carlyfiorina.org/
CosmicCowboy
09-21-2015, 02:20 PM
So exactly why do you say the HP/Compaq merger was bad? Because some RSS feed told you so?
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-04-09-Picture3.png
ElNono
09-21-2015, 03:55 PM
^ dunno where you get that from, but this is what HP stock looked like while she was CEO:
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/fiorinai.png?w=560&h=330
That's one of the primary reasons she was fired (stock rose on the news, IIRC).
She was wildly regarded at the time as a terrible CEO.
CosmicCowboy
09-21-2015, 04:18 PM
You should read up on it more. Long term it was the right strategic decision as it expanded HP in to the enterprise market which is a huge part of their business now. Short term Walter Hewitt was stabbing her in the back at every turn.
^ dunno where you get that from, but this is what HP stock looked like while she was CEO:
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/fiorinai.png?w=560&h=330
That's one of the primary reasons she was fired (stock rose on the news, IIRC).
She was wildly regarded at the time as a terrible CEO.
He got it from a 2008 HuffPo article that he read... now he thinks he's an expert. Not even worth my time to respond. She was horrible and they wisely fired her ass.
CosmicCowboy
09-21-2015, 05:31 PM
He got it from a 2008 HuffPo article that he read... now he thinks he's an expert. Not even worth my time to respond. She was horrible and they wisely fired her ass.
And as usual you are full of shit. Spurtsalk peanut gallery talking out their ass. Tech guys in the biz say the HP Compaq merger strategically was the right thing to do. I will believe them over you and Boos RSS feeds. I'm not saying she didn't make mistakes but merging two huge corporations is a monumental task. Ultimately the merger was proven to be the right move.
http://www.crn.com/news/mobility/231601009/the-hp-compaq-merger-partners-reflect-10-years-later.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-rosen/the-merger-that-worked-co_b_95873.html
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2007/08/16/the-h-pcompaq-union-from-controversy-to-success/
ChumpDumper
09-21-2015, 06:05 PM
CC's got a new crush.
pgardn
09-21-2015, 06:26 PM
So her political experience is getting beat twice and never having held an elected political office? Ok.
And Trump is able to insult for the benefit of angry white males with suits.
Well isn't that special.
The Democrats salivate hoping Trump triumphs. He will get nuked.
DarrinS
09-21-2015, 06:57 PM
^ dunno where you get that from, but this is what HP stock looked like while she was CEO:
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/fiorinai.png?w=560&h=330
That's one of the primary reasons she was fired (stock rose on the news, IIRC).
She was wildly regarded at the time as a terrible CEO.
A tech stock fell during that period? Imagine that.
DarrinS
09-21-2015, 06:59 PM
From what I've read, the HP board was highly dysfunctional in those days.
ChumpDumper
09-21-2015, 07:01 PM
Well, she did throw 30,000 people out of work, skirted sanctions to sell millions of dollars worth of equipment to Iran and lied about watching an aborted fetus film.
What's not to like?
ElNono
09-21-2015, 07:01 PM
A tech stock fell during that period? Imagine that.
It underperformed most other tech stocks and the markets in general. That is largely why she was fired. Somehow the other guys were doing better.
ElNono
09-21-2015, 07:15 PM
You should read up on it more. Long term it was the right strategic decision as it expanded HP in to the enterprise market which is a huge part of their business now. Short term Walter Hewitt was stabbing her in the back at every turn.
If you know anything about the tech market, that makes zero sense. HP never recovered, and it's not all her fault. That market has been brutal. But she did go all in on a computer maker that had extremely thin profit margins (like the rest of the industry). She didn't acquire "services" companies, which is what turned out to be the future (now the present) of the industry. It was a gamble to go big and bold, and it was a terrible call.
That doesn't mean she can't be a candidate for president. But I don't think it's wise of her to bring up her tenure at HP, or compare herself to Steve Jobs... I mean, it already cost her an election.
DarrinS
09-21-2015, 07:33 PM
It underperformed most other tech stocks and the markets in general. That is largely why she was fired. Somehow the other guys were doing better.
She was a mediocre CEO, but that company had a lot of issues.
DarrinS
09-21-2015, 07:35 PM
Well, she did throw 30,000 people out of work, skirted sanctions to sell millions of dollars worth of equipment to Iran and lied about watching an aborted fetus film.
What's not to like?
I'd like to see her debate Hillary. That shit would draw epic ratings.
ElNono
09-21-2015, 07:54 PM
She was a mediocre CEO, but that company had a lot of issues.
No doubt, and the market in general was rocky as hell. That's why they get the big bucks.
From what I've read, the HP board was highly dysfunctional in those days.
And yet no one has hired her to lead their business since.
TeyshaBlue
09-21-2015, 09:19 PM
And yet no one has hired her to lead their business since.
With her likely mountains of severance, she's probably not looking too hard tbh.
ElNono
09-21-2015, 09:36 PM
With her likely mountains of severance, she's probably not looking too hard tbh.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/12/business/fiorina-exiting-hewlettpackard-with-more-than-42-million.html
With her likely mountains of severance, she's probably not looking too hard tbh.
If she were so great, she wouldn't need to. They would be coming to her.
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1442872066943.png
DarrinS
09-21-2015, 09:46 PM
If the ammunition against Carly is HP, it's pretty weak, tbh.
DarrinS
09-21-2015, 09:47 PM
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1442872066943.png
Damn, I hope that's not accurate.
Damn, I hope that's not accurate.
It is you scared? Take your ass back to the cuck shed
Will Hunting
09-21-2015, 10:03 PM
It is you scared? Take your ass back to the cuck shed
:lol DarrinShit probably has a fat ol' beandip wife life Jeb Bush does
Will Hunting
09-21-2015, 10:15 PM
Damn, I hope that's not accurate.
http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/07/ActOfLove1.jpg
ChumpDumper
09-21-2015, 10:16 PM
If the ammunition against Carly is HP, it's pretty weak, tbh.She threw 30,000 people out of work and really had nothing to show for it. The merger was a good idea but she fucked up the execution badly.
Will Hunting
09-21-2015, 10:17 PM
With her likely mountains of severance, she's probably not looking too hard tbh.
By mountains of severance, you mean her golden parachute?
:lol DarrinShit probably has a fat ol' beandip wife life Jeb Bush does
http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/jebb.jpg
http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/07/ActOfLove1.jpg:lmao almost posted det one
Will Hunting
09-21-2015, 10:24 PM
http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/jebb.jpg
http://www.amren.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/OpenBorders.jpg
Will Hunting
09-21-2015, 10:26 PM
:lmao m>s this might be the best one. Sheldon Adelcuck:
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/adelson-cuck-e1438178168733.jpg
Lmao I like how israel is some reverse world. They also rationalized why Israel should get no immigrants but thre west should take them all in.
Bean Dip
09-22-2015, 01:00 AM
:lol DarrinShit probably has a fat ol' beandip wife life Jeb Bush does
:lmao you all are so hilarious
MultiTroll
09-22-2015, 01:02 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/12/business/fiorina-exiting-hewlettpackard-with-more-than-42-million.html
"And as she leaves," he said, "she gets $21 million, when in fact, stockholders have gotten negative returns."
Not to mention layed off workers.
What a greedy snatch.
Re-Animator
09-22-2015, 01:22 AM
Lol lost the debate. According to the drudge poll almost 60% said trump won. She was second with about 15%. Trump is the next president and I see a lot of shills lately still trying to put him down. The ship has already sailed.
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-07/16/11/imagebuzz/webdr07/anigif_optimized-22382-1437060925-1.gif
JohnnyMarzetti
09-22-2015, 05:24 AM
Fox News Tells Carly Fiorina To Her Face: ‘No Actual Footage Exists’ Of Fetus Videos
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/09/20/fox-news-tells-carly-fiorina-to-her-face-no-actual-footage-exists-of-fetus-videos-video/
And she calls Hillary a liar!?
boutons_deux
09-22-2015, 05:34 AM
Fox News Tells Carly Fiorina To Her Face: ‘No Actual Footage Exists’ Of Fetus Videos
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/09/20/fox-news-tells-carly-fiorina-to-her-face-no-actual-footage-exists-of-fetus-videos-video/
And she calls Hillary a liar!?
"Hillary is a liar, untrustworthy" is VRWC/FOX/Repug slander campaign, repeated enough that sheeple think it's true (at least "more true" than for other lying politicians).
Recall that even the "even handed press" said Repug McLiar was untruthful in the 2008 campaign.
Defending Hillary? no, just pointing out that FOX/Repug/VRWC strategies are fundamentally nothing but LIES and slander.
hater
09-22-2015, 07:03 AM
So Trump was right again huh? Start the apologies shills
pgardn
09-22-2015, 07:16 AM
So Trump was right again huh? Start the apologies shills
If Trump just stated that he knows how Washington works because he has paid off politicians on so many levels in his business dealings people might consider him partially competent. But as it stands he is a liar. And once the opposition gets culled out and the business dealings get exposed... hair man down, we have fluffed hair man down.
I would love to see the number of press outlets in pursuit of his financial history right now and the other politicians waiting just salivating.
So will it be a slow tortuous salvo or a giant nuke to put him quickly out of his misery? It's up to the Republicans, they know the Democratic candidate will be waiting with a guillotine.
hater
09-22-2015, 07:25 AM
:lol shillary is a bigger liar
:lmao Barney. Dude is so boring nobody in the mainstream media pays any attention o him. He's like drinking an entire bottle of Nyquil :lol no chance
:lol shillary is a bigger liar
:lmao Barney. Dude is so boring nobody in the mainstream media pays any attention o him. He's like drinking an entire bottle of Nyquil :lol no chance
He has the largest crowds of any candidate.
hater
09-22-2015, 08:26 AM
And the least amount of mainstream media attention. He wont do good in a general election where voters want fries and a large coke with their speeches
Pelicans78
09-22-2015, 10:25 AM
And the least amount of mainstream media attention. He wont do good in a general election where voters want fries and a large coke with their speeches
I prefer a shake sometimes.
Speaking of Barney. His accent is annoying. Sounds like he has a frog in his mouth.
boutons_deux
09-22-2015, 10:45 AM
Speaking of Barney. His accent is annoying. Sounds like he has a frog in his mouth.
who's Barney? another Repug crawling out of the woodwork?
So you vote based on the candidate's pronunciation?
Pelicans78
09-22-2015, 10:49 AM
who's Barney? another Repug crawling out of the woodwork?
So you vote based on the candidate's pronunciation?
Yes. I'm very much into eloquent speech.
Maybe you'll find an article criticizing one of the candidate's ability to articulate.
boutons_deux
09-22-2015, 10:57 AM
Yes. I'm very much into eloquent speech.
Maybe you'll find an article criticizing one of the candidate's ability to articulate.
not talking about articulation, which BERNIE does very well, but PRONUNCIATION (you could look it up)
Pelicans78
09-22-2015, 01:01 PM
not talking about articulation, which BERNIE does very well, but PRONUNCIATION (you could look it up)
You can look up an article on both since that's all you do anyway.
boutons_deux
09-22-2015, 01:18 PM
You can look up an article on both since that's all you do anyway.
:lol bitch, slapped! :lol
Pelicans78
09-22-2015, 01:20 PM
:lol bitch, slapped! :lol
:lobt2:
Pelicans78
09-22-2015, 01:25 PM
Bouton
:wakeup
pgardn
09-22-2015, 05:27 PM
He has the largest crowds of any candidate.
I would go see him. He is a circus clown.
Do they have voting booths at these gatherings?
boutons_deux
09-22-2015, 08:01 PM
I would go see him. He is a circus clown.
Bernie is more serious than the all combined of the Repug Klown Kar
What's clownish about his issues:
https://berniesanders.com/issues/
boutons_deux
09-23-2015, 05:59 PM
Fiorina’s Unsupported Claim about VA Deaths
Carly Fiorina on several occasions has said 307,000 veterans have died while waiting for care from the Veterans Health Administration. In one instance, she said all of those veterans “died in the last year,” citing a recent inspector general’s report. But that’s not what the report says.
The VA Office of the Inspector General report said 307,173 of nearly 867,000 pending VA applications belonged to individuals who died. But poor record-keeping made it impossible to say how many of them died while waiting for care or how many of them even applied for care.
The report also said 84 percent of those who died, or 258,367 individuals, died more than four years ago — not last year.
Fiorina, a Republican candidate for president, has made the VA report a staple of her recent speeches. At the National Federation of Republican Women Convention (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIo9e-jiyBI) in Phoenix, Arizona, on Sept. 11, Fiorina said that “just last month, we got a report that 307,000 veterans have died waiting for an appointment.”
Similarly, she told an audience at the Stretch Kennedy annual picnic (http://www.c-span.org/video/?328087-1/carly-fiorina-remarks-chichester-new-hampshire) in New Hampshire on Sept. 12 that “307,000 veterans had died in the last year waiting for health care.”
Fiorina repeated the claim twice during CNN’s prime-time GOP debate (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-top-tier-primetime-cnn-gop-republican-debate-2015/) on Sept. 16. After the debate, a viewer, and a self-proclaimed veteran, asked us to check Fiorina’s claim.
On Sept. 2, the VA Office of the Inspector General released a report titled “Veterans Health Administration: Review of Alleged Mismanagement at the Health Eligibility Center (http://www.va.gov/oig/pubs/VAOIG-14-01792-510.pdf).” The report addressed four questions about the eligibility center, including an allegation first reported by the Atlanta Journal Constitution (http://www.ajc.com/news/news/online-system-trapped-vets-seeking-care/ng3rR/) last year that more than 47,000 veterans died while their applications were still pending.
The IG report said an application would be marked as pending if “qualifying evidence,” such as evidence of military standing or income status, “is incomplete or unavailable.” A final enrollment decision cannot be made until that information is obtained.
According to the report, the VA OIG found that 307,173 of the nearly 867,000 applications with “pending” status in the enrollment system as of Sept. 30, 2014, belonged to individuals who were reported deceased by the Social Security Administration.
But that doesn’t necessarily mean that all of them died while waiting for health care, as Fiorina claimed.
The VA OIG report said more than once that the exact number of veterans in the enrollment system (ES) seeking health benefits could not be determined.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/fiorinas-unsupported-claim-about-va-deaths/
CF makes up shit as she goes along.
boutons_deux
09-23-2015, 08:06 PM
Fiorina Misleads on HP and Iran
Carly Fiorina made several false, misleading and unsubstantiated claims in responding to questions about Hewlett-Packard’s involvement with a foreign subsidiary that sold products in Iran.
The former HP CEO claimed that a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation “proved that neither I nor anyone else in management knew about” a Hewlett-Packard subsidiary doing business in Iran. We have found no such ruling from the SEC, nor could Fiorina’s campaign provide one.
She also claimed that the company that actually sold HP products in Iran was “not honest” with HP about its dealings. But that company said in a 2003 press release that its relationship with HP had begun in 1997 to focus on “one market — Iran.”
Fiorina said “it’s impossible to ensure that nothing wrong ever happens” in such a large company, which she said had “a larger budget than any one of our 50 states.” That’s incorrect. California and New York had larger budgets in fiscal year 2005, which was Fiorina’s last with HP.
We can’t say what Fiorina knew about an HP subsidiary’s dealings in Iran and when she knew it. But the company defended the subsidiary’s sales to Iran in a 2009 letter to the SEC — three years after Fiorina had left the company — saying such sales by a foreign subsidiary weren’t subject to the law governing U.S. companies.
There’s other evidence suggesting that HP management, but not specifically Fiorina, may have been aware of the arrangement several years before then.
...
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/fiorina-misleads-on-hp-and-iran/
spurraider21
09-23-2015, 10:16 PM
Click below. You won't regret it. :rollin
http://carlyfiorina.org/
:lmao
spurraider21
09-23-2015, 10:18 PM
I'd like to see her debate Hillary. That shit would draw epic ratings.
would be cool if they synchronized
baseline bum
09-23-2015, 10:41 PM
Click below. You won't regret it. :rollin
http://carlyfiorina.org/
:rollin
Spurminator
09-23-2015, 11:00 PM
"Sometimes you have to eliminate jobs to create jobs."
- Some Republican (probably)
Clipper Nation
09-23-2015, 11:08 PM
http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/jebb.jpg
:lmao:lmao:lmao
boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 05:47 AM
goddam, you Repugs got some STOOPID wannabe Presidents
Fiorina Campaign Makes Its Own Abortion Video
During the latest GOP primary debate on September 16, Carly Fiorina described a video that shows "a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain." Many news reports have pointed out that no such video seems to exist (http://www.vox.com/2015/9/18/9351657/fiorina-planned-parenthood-response)—it's not among the heavily edited Center for Medical Progress videos released this summer, nor is it anywhere else.
On September 19, the Fiorina campaign posted a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhn0DdH8M-0) to the Carly for America YouTube page that appears to be a home-brewed version of the previously nonexistent video. The clip is called "Character of Our Nation," a quote from Fiorina's statements during the debate, when she said defunding Planned Parenthood "is about the character of our nation."
In an email sent out yesterday, Planned Parenthood pointed out that the video appears to be a heavily edited selection of five separate audio and video clips, spliced together "to try to concoct the video that she claimed existed" during the debate. Several of the clips, Planned Parenthood said, come from the doctored Center for Medical Progress sting videos released this summer that purport to show Planned Parenthood officials selling fetal organs for profit—a criminal allegation that state after state has found to be false.
One of the clips comes from the Grantham Collection, an anti-abortion archive that has been discredited (http://granthamcollectiondebunked.tumblr.com/) by pro-choice advocates, in part for making false allegations about the content of benign photos. For instance, the group claimed that a photo of basic medical tongs is an image of the tool used to pull apart the limbs of an aborted fetus.
Planned Parenthood wrote a letter to the Fiorina campaign yesterday, asking it to take down the composite video.
In response to a request for comment on the veracity of the video, Fiorina campaign spokeswomen Sarah Isgur Flores wrote in an email,
"Carly is a cancer survivor :lol :lol :lol :lol and doesn't need to be lectured on women's health by anyone.
Over their long and factually incorrect letter, Planned Parenthood doesn't and can't deny they butchering babies and selling their organs [sic]. This is about the character of our nation."
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/09/carly-fiorinas-campaign-made-its-own-abortion-video
CF and her people concerned about "character"? :lol
boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 11:24 AM
At the debate, Fiorina dared Hillary Clinton and President Obama to watch undercover videos attacking Planned Parenthood in order to see “a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.”
Those videos, released by anti-choice front group (http://rhrealitycheck.org/a-network-of-lies/) the Center for Medical Progress, have already been discredited as misleading and deceptively edited by numerous (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/22/opinion/the-campaign-of-deception-against-planned-parenthood.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&_r=1) media (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/22/425314909/sting-videos-part-of-longtime-campaign-against-planned-parenthood) outlets (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/planned-parenthood-deserves-to-be-supported-not-attacked/2015/07/16/373c8f58-2bba-11e5-a5ea-cf74396e59ec_story.html)and independent investigators (http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/08/27/report-center-medical-progress-videos-deceptively-edited-lack-credibility/). The videos were released by CMP in coordination with Republican lawmakers.
Yet even these misleading videos, fact-checkers pointed out, don’t contain a scene like the one Fiorina described. It simply doesn’t exist. That hasn’t stopped Fiorina from doubling down (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/caught-fib-fiorina-refuses-acknowledge-misstep)on her comments in interviews and insisting that the footage is real and that she has seen it.
A pro-Fiorina PAC called CARLY for America has released a video ad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhn0DdH8M-0) that tries to create the scene Fiorina describes out of whole cloth with numerous deceptive edits.
The PAC is legally separate from the Fiorina campaign, and Planned Parenthood’s demands for a retraction (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/23/planned-parenthood-tries-in-vain-to-get-carly-fiorina-to-retract-video-claim/?kjk) have so far been unsuccessful.
The video, according to a fact-check from Planned Parenthood, splices together five different video and audio sources from CMP: an interview with a former tissue procurement technician, Holly O’Donnell; a photo of a Pennsylvania woman’s stillborn son that was used without permission; a video from a discredited (http://granthamcollectiondebunked.tumblr.com/) anti-choice archive called the Grantham Collection; audio from a secret video of a doctor in Colorado; and audio from a surreptitiously recorded phone conversation with a man who works at another independent health-care organization in California.
There is one particular scene in the CMP videos that Fiorina is probably referring to, but her description of it is wildly inaccurate, as RH Reality Check has explained (http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/09/17/debunking-five-absurd-comments-planned-parenthood-gop-debate/). That scene already splices together three of the sources above, the interview with O’Donnell and the two fetus stock images, to mislead viewers into thinking that the images are an accurate illustration of O’Donnell’s story and were taken at Planned Parenthood.
The pro-Fiorina ad shortens this scene to omit context from O’Donnell’s story.
The deceptive ad ends up showing a “fully formed fetus” with “legs kicking” (a stock image), an unrelated and completely out-of-context audio quote about a “heart beating,” and a mention of harvesting a brain (which sounds gruesome but is part of the tissue procurement process, and there is no video of the incident). :lol :lol
But even this edited video of an edited video can’t come close to showing the scene Fiorina describes, in which “someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest the brain.” No such quote exists, even out of context.
http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2015/09/24/pro-fiorina-ad-doctors-already-doctored-planned-parenthood-videos/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rhrealitycheck+%28RH+Reality+ Check%29
"character" ??? :lol
boutons_deux
09-25-2015, 05:19 AM
Ex-HP CEO Fiorina used job-creating tax breaks to buy back stock — then fired thousands of workers
Prior to being fired herself, former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina used tax incentives from the federal government, intended to increase research and development and employee hiring, to buy back stock before firing thousands of HP workers.According to The Daily Beast, (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/23/carly-fiorina-s-4-billion-job-scam.html) Fiorina — whose troubled tenure at HP has come under more scrutiny as she moves up in the polls for the GOP presidential nomination — was not the only high-ranking executive to take advantage of a corporate “tax holiday” and work it to her own advantage.
In 2004 Congress passed the American Jobs Creation Act of 2004 :lol :lol — after high pressure lobbying from Hewlett-Packard among others — that included an incentive for companies to repatriate profits stashed overseas with the understanding the money would be invested in job-creating research and development. :lol
Instead, under Fiorina’s stewardship, HP took $4 billion of the $4.3 billion in tax breaks and funneled the money into a stock buyback program that enriched shareholders including herself. The move was done despite the fact that the act specifically prohibited the stock manipulation.
Instead of hiring more workers, HP laid off 14,500 workers due to plummeting share prices following Fiorina’s disastrous decision (http://fortune.com/2015/09/17/carly-fiorina-business-record/) to purchase Compaq that caused profits to plummet.
The following year, Fiorina was fired by the HP after an acrimonious fight, but still managed to depart with a $21 million severance package.
This is not the only time Fiorina has been accused of skirting the law.
During her tenure, HP was accused of selling products into Iran (http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-09-14/under-fiorina-hp-earned-millions-from-sales-in-iran) despite an embargo. HP explained that the sales were made by a foreign subsidiary which was not bound by the U.S. government sanctions. Fiorina claimed no knowledge of the $120 million sale. :lol
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/ex-hp-ceo-fiorina-used-job-creating-tax-breaks-to-buy-back-stock-then-fired-thousands-of-workers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
How many $100M sales did CF not know about? :lol
boutons_deux
09-25-2015, 05:48 AM
Carly Fiorina Makes a Lot of Stuff Up About Everything
From her time at HP to abortion and assault weapons, Fiorina has an adventurous relationship with the truth.
As it turns out, Fiorina's tendency to embellish—or altogether avoid—the facts goes back much farther than last week's debate. Below is a partial compilation of some of her less-than-truthful moments:
1. Claim: Fiorina was not fired from her job at Hewlett-Packard because of performance.
Facts: In February 2005, Fiorina was dismissed from her post as CEO of HP by a board of directors that she's since called "dysfunctional." At the time, she roundly told reporters that the firing was not about performance. She struck a similar note in her 2006 memoir, Tough Choices, writing that after more than five years leading HP, by December 2004 she had pulled the company toward success. She cited a strong fourth quarter, despite a third-quarter "stumble."
In fact, the stumble was an enormous shortfall: HP missed its earnings projections that quarter by 23 percent. "When companies miss by a few pennies, it doesn't mean all that much," the New York Times wrote of Fiorina in 2006.
"When companies miss by 23 percent, Wall Street starts wondering if the people at the top have a clue as to what's going on in the various businesses." The Times also pointed out at the time that although Fiorina wrote in her memoir that HP missed its numbers on her watch only three times, "in fact, the company fell short at least nine times on either revenue, profit or both."
2. Claim: The Securities and Exchange Commission investigated allegations of HP's violations of the Iran embargo and cleared HP management of any knowledge of the problem.
Facts: Last week, several news outlets reported that Fiorina was CEO of HP when the company allegedly sold products to Iran via a third-party company in Dubai, potentially in violation of US-Iran sanctions. When conservative radio host Sean Hannity questioned Fiorina about the allegations last Friday, she said (http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/18/fiorina-defends-record-at-hp-speaking-at-clinton-global-initiative/), "The SEC did a thorough investigation and concluded that no one in management, myself included, knew anything about it."
In fact, there's no evidence that an SEC investigation of the allegations ever happened. The SEC did inquire about the company's Iran dealings in a 2009 letter, after Fiorina had left the company. But there's no evidence (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/fiorina-misleads-on-hp-and-iran/) that a ruling clearing management of any knowledge was ever issued. What's more, in their response letter to the SEC, HP indicated (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/fiorina-misleads-on-hp-and-iran/) that management was aware of the Dubai-based company Redington Gulf's sales of HP products to Iran, but that such sales were legal under US law.
3. Claim: Fiorina told Fox News host Chris Wallace last week that Redington Gulf was "not honest" with HP about selling HP products to Iran, a potential violation of US-Iran sanctions.
Facts: Redington Gulf was open about its sales of HP products to Iran. The company issued a press release in 2003 saying that its relationship with HP began in 1997 to focus on "one market—Iran."
4. Claim: Buying a semi-automatic weapon in the United States is illegal.
Facts: In 2010, Fiorina ran for the Senate in California against three-term incumbent Sen. Barbara Boxer. During their first debate (http://www.scpr.org/news/2010/09/30/19734/transcript-kpcc-debate-between-california-senate-c/), the moderator asked Fiorina why she opposed reinstatement of the federal ban on assault weapons. She responded with several inaccurate points: "First of all, you know, assault weapons and semi-automatic weapons are not the same thing," Fiorina said. "It's a definitional issue. There are—but here's the important point: It's illegal today to be buying semi-automatic weapons."
In fact, it is very much legal to buy semi-automatic weapons in the United States. The AR-15, one of the most popular (http://www.nssf.org/msr/facts.cfm) guns in America, is semi-automatic. Congress did ban the sale (http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2013/01/18/169526687/the-decades-old-gun-ban-thats-still-on-the-books) of fully automatic weapons (also known as machine guns) in 1986. Also, in contrast to Fiorina's claim, the vast majority of assault weapons—a term defined in the now-expired Federal Assault Weapons Ban (https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/house-bill/4296/text)—are semi-automatic, though gun rights advocates dislike the term. They argue (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/us/even-defining-assault-weapons-is-complicated.html?_r=0) that many typical sporting rifles are also semi-automatic, so "assault weapon" is a misleading, politicized term that should instead be used to describe fully automatic weapons.
5. Claim: Taxpayers can fund "virtually any" abortion.
Facts: During her 2010 Senate debate against California incumbent Sen. Barbara Boxer, the moderator asked Fiorina about her views on abortion. "I understand that this is an emotional issue for many women," she responded. "I happen to be pro-life. Barbara Boxer holds a very extreme view: that taxpayers should pay for virtually any abortion, any time, anywhere, for any reason."
In fact, the Hyde Amendment, which Boxer supported as a "good compromise," prohibits using federal dollars to fund most abortions, unless the pregnancy arises from rape, incest, or the abortion is needed to save the life of the mother.
6. Claim: Fiorina's second husband picked her out of "the secretarial pool."
Facts: During a town hall in New Hampshire over Labor Day weekend, Fiorina described meeting Frank Fiorina. "It was a long time ago in the technology world and there weren't that many people actually who took a young woman from the secretarial pool all that seriously. And he did—so I had to fall in love and marry him."
But as the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/18/5-other-times-that-carly-fiorina-has-exaggerated-things/) points out, Fiorina was not a secretary when they met. She was working in government communications at AT&T. Her future husband was in a higher position and took interest in one of her ideas.
7. Claim: Thanks to Fiorina's leadership, HP became the world's first $100 billion IT company.
Facts: Fiorina's 2010 Senate campaign website (http://carlyforca.com/about/) trumpeted her achievements as HP's CEO, saying that she "positioned HP to become the first $100 billion information technology company."
HP did become the first IT company to reach $100 billion in sales, but not until 2007—several years after Fiorina's departure and during the tenure of CEO Mark Hurd. Fiorina's presidential campaign says her leadership in the years leading up to this milestone—particularly the Compaq merger she orchestrated—was key to reaching the $100 billion mark. But the merger was widely (http://mashable.com/2015/08/25/carly-fiorina-business-record/?utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29&utm_cid=Mash-Prod-RSS-Feedburner-All-Partial&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed#EtvkbY4HVOqW) deemed (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/carly-fiorina-hewlett-packard-2016-gop) a failure, rather than a financial boon for the company.
8. Claim: As president, Fiorina would not negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin
Facts: During her presidential run, Fiorina has repeatedly said that, as president, she would completely avoid negotiations with Putin. "Russia is a bad actor," Fiorina said during last week's primary debate. "Vladimir Putin is someone we should not talk to, because the only way he will stop is to sense strength and resolve on the other side, and we have all of that within our control."
But before being so tough on Putin, Fiorina expressed being very impressed with his leadership in Russia. As the Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/24/carly-fiorina-s-puffed-up-putin-meeting.html) points out, Fiorina met Putin in 2001, at the APEC CEO summit in Beijing. Both of them were slotted to give speeches, and Fiorina—then CEO of HP—spoke immediately before Putin.
She talked about how Putin had led Russia through a dramatic transition to democracy. "Hewlett-Packard has been at the center of a lot of change in our 62-year history.
But President Putin was elected president in the first democratic transition in Russia in 1,000 years," Fiorina said. "Talk about giving new meaning to the word 'invent.'" The Fiorina campaign disagreed with this interpretation, telling the Daily Beast that this was merely "a fairly banal statement of fact."
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/carly-fiorinas-revisionism-problem
boutons_deux
09-25-2015, 08:47 AM
Carly Fiorina Is Lying, And Everyone Knows It. Even Fox News.
Here’s the thing: Carly Fiorina is lying. And no, we’re not going to play that clever Traditional Journalism game, where we substitute gentler euphemisms, by saying she misspoke, or was not entirely accurate. Carly Fiorina lied.
And when she was fact-checked by every fact-checker who fact-checks supposed facts that need checking, and everyone said it was impossible for Carly Fiorina to have watched the video she described because no such video exists, she did not back down or apologize for her error. She doubled down, then she doubled down again, and again some more. By lying. Because Carly Fiorina is a liar.
The Federalist, a supposedly smart conservative website that is rabidly anti-choice, insists that Fiorina is right, and this Planned Parenthood footage does TOO exist. Except even The Federalist admits no, not really.
It explains (http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/18/whos-really-lying-about-the-planned-parenthood-videos-carly-fiorina-or-the-factcheckers/) that the video of a live fetus at “Planned Parenthood” is actually stock imagery provided by another anti-choice organization, supposedly of “a baby who survived an abortion and was left in a metal bowl to die.”
We actually know nothing about the circumstances of the fetus — whether it resulted from an abortion or a miscarriage or a premature birth, for example — but we do know that it was not filmed at Planned Parenthood, and
we also know that nobody is discussing keeping it alive to extract its brain. Instead, according to The Federalist:
While it is obviously not the same baby as the one she harvested the brain of, the footage helps viewers to understand what a 19-week old baby looks like when hearing the testimony of an ex-employee who harvested brains from babies of the same age. Illustrating stories with appropriate images is a common journalistic technique, one used by all media outlets. :lol
that’s not journalism. “Here is a video that proves something, even though it’s not really video of that, but just imagine that it is.” Nope, that’s not journalism. It’s a lie. Just like Carly Fiorina’s claim, which is also a lie, because she is a liar.
http://wonkette.com/594124/carly-fiorina-is-lying-and-everyone-knows-it-even-fox-news
boutons_deux
09-25-2015, 04:51 PM
Carly Fiorina blames the 'liberal' media for her Planned Parenthood lies (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/25/1424799/-Carly-Fiorina-blames-the-liberal-media-for-her-Planned-Parenthood-lies)
Carly Fiorina, competing to win the forced-birther award for zealotry, campaigned at a crisis pregnancy center Thursday, one of those fake clinics that sell themselves as healthcare providers, and doubled-down on the lies that started with her CNN debate appearance and continued with her campaign's faked video (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/23/1424165/-Planned-Parenthood-Carly-Fiorina-cooks-up-fake-video-to-prove-her-lies). In her campaign stop she insisted (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-abortion-stance-media-planned-parenthood-videos-214022#ixzz3ml1jNAoM) that "anyone who challenges her on the point as part of the 'liberal media.'"
"Interestingly, no one has denied that babies are being butchered for their body parts at Planned Parenthood clinics and elsewhere," she said as supporters clapped. "They're trying to have a conversation about a technicality about a video tape. The character of this nation cannot be about butchery of babies for body parts." [...]Inside the Carolina Pregnancy Center, however, Fiorina continued to fire away at "liberal hypocrisy."
"They are perfectly prepared to destroy other people's jobs and livelihoods and communities in order to protect fish and frogs and flies," she said. "But they do not think a 17-week-old, a 20-week old, a 24-week old is worth saving. This, ladies and gentlemen, is hypocrisy," she said, referring to the stage of a fetus' development, not the age of a born child.
Nice deflection there, Fiorina. The issue isn't about the existence of abortion at Planned Parenthood or anywhere else. The issue is that she's a pathological liar about it.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/25/1424799/-Carly-Fiorina-blames-the-liberal-media-for-her-Planned-Parenthood-lies?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29
boutons_deux
09-26-2015, 06:20 PM
Carly Fiorina Responds With Outdated Information When Veteran Asks About Medical Marijuana
“You’re not going to like my answer,” Fiorina responded before hearkening back to her breast cancer diagnosis in 2009. At the time, she recounted, her doctor asked “if I was interested in medicinal marijuana.”
“I said ‘No,’ and his response was ‘Good,’ because its a chemically complex compound that we do not understand — we do not understand how it reacts with chemotherapy thand all of the other statements,” she said. “It is true today …. [that before you get chemotherapy] you cannot have any marijuana in your system for at least 30 days …”
Van Winkle interrupted. “That’s no longer true, ” she said.
Fiorina paused. “So I will also tell you something else. We lost a daughter to addiction,” :lol
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/09/25/3705774/carly-fiorina-medical-marijuana/
CF is such lying conbitch.
Thanks, Repugs, for all fucking losers, assholes, jerkoffs, liars, racists, xenophobes, Christian Taliban, etc y'all support of President.
boutons_deux
09-27-2015, 07:44 PM
Five More Marijuana Studies Debunk Carly Fiorina’s Ignorant Reefer Madness Mindset
It is astonishing that in the 21st Century, the so-called “information age,” there are so many Americans who are woefully ignorant about nearly everything.
Included in that monumentally large “group of stupid” are conservatives, particularly those Republican conservatives who still base their policies and agendas on information that is patently false or guaranteed to fail.
One failed CEO seeking the Republican presidential nomination, Carly Fiorina, revealed why her tenure at Hewlett Packard was a “colossal fail.”
One wonders if Fiorina attempted to head a leading technology company with information based on manual typewriters and a mindset demanding that employees use handwritten index cards as a means of keeping mountains of information and technological data.
One thing is certain, if Fiorina’s knowledge, or lack thereof, of the tremendous medical advances and research verifying the many, many medical benefits of cannabis is anything like her knowledge of running a giant tech business, it is no wonder she is an epic failure.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/27/marijuana-studies-debunk-carly-fiorinas-ignorant-reefer-madness-mindset.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
Curtain falls on presidential candidate Carly Fiorina
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Curtain-falls-on-presidential-candidate-Carly-6533696.php#photo-8703542
What a metaphor! LOL
JoeChalupa
09-28-2015, 05:50 AM
She may have reached her high point bump after the debate. Trump's tax plan may stop her cold today.
Curtain falls on presidential candidate Carly Fiorina
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Curtain-falls-on-presidential-candidate-Carly-6533696.php#photo-8703542
What a metaphor! LOL
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boutons_deux
09-28-2015, 06:58 PM
former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina defended Bush era spying and torture, arguing that George W. Bush’s policies kept America safe.
Fiorina followed GOP revisionist history by arguing that Bush kept us safe and she defended torture by stating (https://www.yahoo.com/politics/carly-fiorina-defends-bush-era-torture-and-spying-130015256041.html):
I believe that all of the evidence is very clear — that waterboarding was used in a very small handful of cases [and] was supervised by medical personnel in every one of those cases. And I also believe that waterboarding was used when there was no other way to get information that was necessary.
Of course, Fiorina’s statement contradicts the evidence. The Senate Intelligence Committee found that “the use of the CIA’s enhanced interrogation techniques was not an effective means of obtaining accurate information or gaining detainee cooperation” (http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/29/us/cia-torture-report-fast-facts/). “Enhanced interrogation techniques” like water boarding, beatings and rectal feeding, failed to produce intelligence that was useful for foiling terrorist plots,
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/28/carly-fiorina-defends-government-sponsored-torture-surveillance.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29
... more the Repug fantasy world of revisionism, propaganda, lies
Carly Botox is a fucking disaster
ChumpDumper
09-28-2015, 09:27 PM
Curtain falls on presidential candidate Carly Fiorina
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Curtain-falls-on-presidential-candidate-Carly-6533696.php#photo-8703542
What a metaphor! LOLDet union labor.
boutons_deux
09-29-2015, 03:37 PM
Uh Oh, Lying Liar Carly Fiorina’s Planned Parenthood Lie Just Turned Into A Bigger Lie
Everyone — literally, every single person in America, pretty much — has said, “No, Carly, you did not see a video of that, because no such thing exists.” But Carly and her campaign found this completely other video made by this completely other anti-choice group, purportedly of a just-aborted leg-kicking fetus. Sure, it wasn’t filmed at Planned Parenthood, and, OK, no one is talking about harvesting its brain. But pffft, says Carly, how dare the “liberal media” focus on a mere “technicality.” (http://wonkette.com/594259/lying-liar-carly-fiorina-not-happy-everyone-noticed-shes-a-lying-liar) So BOO HISS Planned Parenthood, and save the leg-kicking aborted fetuses. And look, here is the entire “unedited” (but huh, still edited somehow) video of that “aborted” fetus. Except nope, even that is a lie.
Gregg Cunningham is the founder of the anti-choice Center for Bio-Ethical Reform, which collects stock footage of fetuses so all the other anti-choice fetus fetishist perverts can use the graphic imagery to say, “See, abortion is gross!” On Monday, he released to TIME the 13-minute video (http://time.com/4053578/abortion-carly-fiorina-planned-parenthood/?xid=tcoshare) from which this supposed aborted fetus footage was taken. Cunningham insists that this is definitely a video of an abortion, but if you watch the video — which, yes, is graphic (TRIGGER WARNING FOR GORY BLOODY VAGINA DELIVERING A TINY PREMATURE FETUS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X8_WEFq15Q&feature=youtu.be)) — it does not look like an abortion at all. It looks like a miscarriage: (https://twitter.com/DrJaneChi/status/648926495423918080)
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Screen-Shot-2015-09-29-at-12.27.59-PM.png
Dr. Jen Gunter:
Here are all the issues with the video from start to finish:
It is illegally and clandestinely shot. I feel very badly for the poor woman in question and wonder why Fiorina and our elected officials are not as outraged as I am about her violation and exploitation. I had second thoughts about watching it myself given the lack of consent from the woman, however, I felt if I could end the conversation about it faster by weighing in. Time magazine or Slate have links.
The prep of the patient. The physician (I’m assuming) pours surgical prep/cleaner on the woman’s perineum. We don’t do that anymore for spontaneous deliveries or for abortions that involve induction of labor. This tells me this video is at least 15 years old or from another country.
The delivery. It is a spontaneous delivery as the operator waits for the fetus to be expelled. This is what we do with a previable premature delivery. If this were shot mid way through a 2nd trimester abortion (meaning the Laminaria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laminaria_stick) in the cervix, which are osmotic sticks that help the cervix dilate, had just been removed) it is highly unlikely the operator would have waited for a spontaneous expulsion.
The cord is clamped on the fetal side. If this were an abortion it would just be cut (https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/carly-fiorina-lied-about-the-planned-parenthood-video-an-obgyn-calls-her-out/). Really. No one ever does this with an abortion as it serves no purpose.
Waiting for the placenta. The clamp is left on the placental end and at the end of the video the placenta still hasn’t delivered. If this were an abortion the placenta would be removed with suction immediately, no one would wait 11 minutes. Ever. Every abortion clinic has a suction machine.
There is no proof this video is in a Planned Parenthood clinic never mind in the United States. This could easily be an operating room.
http://wonkette.com/594388/uh-oh-lying-liar-carly-fiorinas-planned-parenthood-lie-just-turned-into-a-bigger-lie
Carly aka Ms Botox and her entire staff are really, really DUMB, "for real".
ElNono
09-29-2015, 06:05 PM
Carly Fiorina: I Supplied HP Servers For NSA Snooping
According to an article at Motherboard, shortly after 9/11, NSA director Michael Hayden requested extra computing power and Carly Fiorina, then CEO of HP, responded by re-routing truckloads of servers to the agency (http://motherboard.vice.com/read/carly-fiorina-i-supplied-hp-servers-for-nsa-snooping). Fiorina acknowledged providing the servers to the NSA (https://www.yahoo.com/politics/carly-fiorina-defends-bush-era-torture-and-spying-130015256041.html) during an interview with Michael Isikoff in which she defended warrantless surveillance (as well as waterboarding) and framed her collaboration with the NSA in patriotic terms. Fiorina's compliance with Hayden's request for HP servers is but one episode in a long-running and close relationship between the GOP presidential hopeful and U.S. intelligence agencies.
boutons_deux
09-30-2015, 01:37 PM
FOUND: The source of Carly Fiorina's fetus claim (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/28/1425455/-FOUND-The-source-of-Carly-Fiorina-s-fetus-claim)
By now we all know GOP Presidential wannabee Carly Fiorina has been telling everyone that she saw a video of an aborted fetus "with arms and legs kicking while Planned Parenthood people dissected the baby looking for its brain."
Her story is bullshit of the highest order -- HOWEVER -- there is a tiny element of truth in the story.
Turns out, what she saw was a video of an infant that had been born prematurely at 19 weeks and that did not survive.
Here is the mom who gave birth to the premature baby. (https://f2photographybylexi.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/walter-joshua-fretz/) By the mother's own description, the baby lived only a few minutes after birth. There was no dissection and no one was "harvesting the baby's brain," fetal tissue, or any organs.
It is not clear if the mom is in on the scam that has been spreading. Her name is Lexi Oliver Fretz (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/our-son-lived-only-minutes-after-birth-but-has-touched-thousands) and she is a pro lifer. She has a Facebook page where she states "they did not ask for permission to use the photo." (http://fusion.net/story/186807/the-latest-anti-planned-parenthood-video-uses-an-unrelated-photo-of-a-stillborn-infant/) Apparently she knows the photo is being used deceptively; she seems to be okay with this because as she puts it, "YES it is illegal (using the photo without her permission) NO I am not going to do anything about it."
https://f2photographybylexi.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/walter-joshua-fretz/
http://fusion.net/story/186807/the-latest-anti-planned-parenthood-video-uses-an-unrelated-photo-of-a-stillborn-infant/
Ms Botox is a LIAR, CMP is a LIAR, and Repugs are LIARS.
FOUND: The source of Carly Fiorina's fetus claim (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/28/1425455/-FOUND-The-source-of-Carly-Fiorina-s-fetus-claim)
By now we all know GOP Presidential wannabee Carly Fiorina has been telling everyone that she saw a video of an aborted fetus "with arms and legs kicking while Planned Parenthood people dissected the baby looking for its brain."
Her story is bullshit of the highest order -- HOWEVER -- there is a tiny element of truth in the story.
Turns out, what she saw was a video of an infant that had been born prematurely at 19 weeks and that did not survive.
Here is the mom who gave birth to the premature baby. (https://f2photographybylexi.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/walter-joshua-fretz/) By the mother's own description, the baby lived only a few minutes after birth. There was no dissection and no one was "harvesting the baby's brain," fetal tissue, or any organs.
It is not clear if the mom is in on the scam that has been spreading. Her name is Lexi Oliver Fretz (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/our-son-lived-only-minutes-after-birth-but-has-touched-thousands) and she is a pro lifer. She has a Facebook page where she states "they did not ask for permission to use the photo." (http://fusion.net/story/186807/the-latest-anti-planned-parenthood-video-uses-an-unrelated-photo-of-a-stillborn-infant/) Apparently she knows the photo is being used deceptively; she seems to be okay with this because as she puts it, "YES it is illegal (using the photo without her permission) NO I am not going to do anything about it."
https://f2photographybylexi.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/walter-joshua-fretz/
http://fusion.net/story/186807/the-latest-anti-planned-parenthood-video-uses-an-unrelated-photo-of-a-stillborn-infant/
Ms Botox is a LIAR
Co-Signed
dbestpro
09-30-2015, 02:01 PM
As the lost causes drop off, Rubio will eventually arise to the top.
boutons_deux
09-30-2015, 02:06 PM
As the lost causes drop off, Rubio will eventually arise to the top.
Rube Rubio is a lost cause. White supremacist nationalists Repugs ain't gonna vote for no damn Cuban brownie, not after 8 years of a colored. "Take Our Country Back" (from the non-Euro-whites and to the 1800s).
Rubio is pretty fucking stupid, which a huge selling point for the Repug base.
As the lost causes drop off, Rubio will eventually arise to the top.
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dbestpro
09-30-2015, 02:11 PM
Rube Rubio is a lost cause. White supremacist nationalists Repugs ain't gonna vote for no damn Cuban brownie, not after 8 years of a colored. "Take Our Country Back" (from the non-Euro-whites and to the 1800s).
Rubio is pretty fucking stupid, which a huge selling point for the Repug base.
They always say an angry liberal is a worried liberal. Must of touched a nerve.
dbestpro
09-30-2015, 02:12 PM
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If Trump is blasting you then it means you are in the game.
boutons_deux
09-30-2015, 02:15 PM
They always say an angry liberal is a worried liberal. Must of touched a nerve.
They be always wrong, rightwingnuts always are.
If Trump is blasting you then it means you are in the game.
He blasted Perry & Walker right out of "the game". Rand will probably be the next to go.
boutons_deux
09-30-2015, 02:28 PM
He blasted Perry & Walker right out of "the game". Rand will probably be the next to go.
Wombat Hair doesn't need pushing, he's falling all by lonesome self. Maybe he will have better "vision" to "see" better what a loser he is.
Wombat Hair doesn't need pushing, he's falling all by lonesome self. Maybe he will have better "vision" to "see" better what a loser he is.
It always OK to make fun of Trump's looks, but anytime he criticizes someone else for their look then he's a sexist and a bully.
It's not right. We're not going to take it anymore!
DarrinS
09-30-2015, 02:48 PM
Rube Rubio is a lost cause. White supremacist nationalists Repugs ain't gonna vote for no damn Cuban brownie, not after 8 years of a colored. "Take Our Country Back" (from the non-Euro-whites and to the 1800s).
Rubio is pretty fucking stupid, which a huge selling point for the Repug base.
Repetitive raging retard
boutons_deux
09-30-2015, 03:07 PM
It always OK to make fun of Trump's looks, but anytime he criticizes someone else for their look then he's a sexist and a bully.
It's not right. We're not going to take it anymore!
Wombat Hair is Jon Stewart's nickname for Ayn Rand Paul.
Wombat Hair is Jon Stewart's nickname for Ayn Rand Paul.
Oh, well in that case I agree. :lol
boutons_deux
10-01-2015, 05:32 AM
Carly Fiorina: I didn't say gay marriage would be the law of the land, except for how I totally did (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/29/1425914/-Carly-Fiorina-I-didn-t-say-gay-marriage-was-the-law-of-the-land-except-for-how-I-totally-did)
she's switched things up and started lying about not saying something she most definitely did say, because video of itdoes exist. Fortunately, the saintly folks at Right Wing Watch, who don't get nearly enough credit for wading through torrents of conservative vomit on a daily basis, have her nailed (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/carly-fiorina-falsely-claims-she-never-called-obergefell-law-land):
Host: Here in Iowa, when you say Supreme Court decisions are the law of the land, that sets us off. Iowans got bludgeoned by decisions here, and we went through Civics 101, and we don't accept the proposition that court decisions are the law of the land.
Fiorina: Yeah, I actually—with all due respect, Jan—I think that is, ah, a quote from, ah, someone else, not from me. I know there are many Republican candidates, [John] Kasich among them, ah, who have said those exact words. But there's no doubt—there is no doubt—that we have a problem with our judiciary.
And for good measure, she repeated herself, insisting again, "I am not aware of having said that."
Now, it's true that there's a metric assload of GOP candidates running for president, so you could forgive someone for mixing two of them up. It's a little harder to forgive someone, though, when she's mixing herself up with herself (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fiorina-comes-out-against-federal-marriage-amendment):
I think the Supreme Court ruling will become the law of the land, and however much I may agree or disagree with it, ah, I wouldn't support an amendment to reverse it. Ah, and I very much hope that we will come to a place now in this nation where we can support their decision and at the same time support people's right to have—to hold religious views and protect their right to exercise those views.
In addition to the rather bald fact, of course, that Fiorina can't even tie her shoes in the morning without lying, you've got to
love that a former Fortune 500 CEO is willing to agree with a wingnut radio host who insists that "Civics 101" says that Supreme Court rulings are not the "law of the land."
Well, either love, or be absolutely terrified that this woman is being taken seriously by the press and is surging in the polls. For the moment, though, we'll just reset the clock on "Number of Minutes Since Carly Fiorina Just Made Shit Up" to zero.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/29/1425914/-Carly-Fiorina-I-didn-t-say-gay-marriage-was-the-law-of-the-land-except-for-how-I-totally-did?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29
JohnnyMarzetti
10-01-2015, 05:55 AM
She's running for a staff position which Hillary will not appoint her to.
boutons_deux
10-01-2015, 06:41 AM
As with all other Repugs Klowns, esp Donny T, Lame Surgeon, she's unrelenting proof of what shitbags Repug voters are.
These Klowns and their shitbag staffs, "creating their own reality", in the WH would be a true Mourning in America.
ducks
10-01-2015, 10:44 AM
if this country is so full of shitbags you can move you know
boutons_deux
10-04-2015, 06:09 PM
billionaires keep financing LOSERS
Koch brothers, other wealthy GOP mega donors warm to Car Lie Fiorina
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/koch-brothers-other-wealthy-gop-mega-donors-warm-to-carly-fiorina/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
boutons_deux
10-04-2015, 08:33 PM
How Steve Jobs Fleeced Carly Fiorina
The former HP CEO boasted of her friendship with Apple’s leader — but he took her to the cleaners with the iPod
https://medium.com/backchannel/how-steve-jobs-fleeced-carly-fiorina-79d1380663de
boutons_deux
10-04-2015, 08:35 PM
Why Carly's big bet is failing (Fortune Classics, 2005)
The fundamental and overpowering problem here is that HP’s shareholders paid $24 billion in stock to buy Compaq and in exchange got relatively little value.
In fact, so little value was secured that accounting rules could force HP to write off a chunk of the $14.5 billion in goodwill assets it set up on its books after the deal. That would be a noncash charge — comparable, in a junior-grade way, to charges taken at AOL Time Warner after its debacle of a deal — but a write-off of goodwill at HP would say as clearly as anything can that, financially, this merger has been a lemon.
Moreover, in the way that mergers work — and this is the true, if seldom recognized, crime of the deal — HP’s issuance of roughly 1.1 billion shares to Compaq’s shareholders, to be added to HP’s existing 1.9 billion, means that HP sold about 37% of its assets to the Compaq crowd. Among those assets is that gem of a printer business, whose 40% market share (according to IDC) makes it one of the great franchises in the world. To sum up the damaging mathematics:
In the beginning, the old HP shareholders owned 100% of the printer business. After the merger, they owned only 63%.
http://fortune.com/2011/08/21/why-carlys-big-bet-is-failing-fortune-classics-2005/
boutons_deux
10-05-2015, 05:10 AM
Car Lie Fiorina’s 2010 campaign was financial disaster that didn’t pay its employees
Carly Fiorina’s unsuccessful 2010 campaign to unseat Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) was a financial disaster on par with her calamitous run as the CEO of Hewlett-Packard.
Fiorina 2010 left behind half a million dollars in unpaid bills and left staffers waiting for their final paychecks, in some cases for years.According to the Washington Post‘s Robert Samuels (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/carly-fiorinas-first-political-campaign-had-a-surprising-problem-money/2015/10/04/c4bdcdd2-50be-11e5-933e-7d06c647a395_story.html?postshare=741444012467131) , Fiorina failed to pay employees the money they’d earned — including the widow of a close advisor who dropped dead of a heart attack one month shy of Election Day.
Shumate’s unpaid fees were among the half a million dollars of unpaid debts Fiorina 2010 left behind, even as the former CEO reimbursed herself the $1.3 million she lent the campaign out of her personal fortune.
“Occasionally, I’d call and tell her she should pay them,” said former campaign manager Martin Wilson. “She just wouldn’t.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/carly-fiorinas-2010-campaign-was-financial-disaster-that-didnt-pay-its-employees/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
took multi $10Millionaire Car Lie 5 years to pay off her 2010 staff, and obviously only because 2015 she needed to clear the decks for her hopeless run.
Carly Fiorina’s first political campaign had a surprising problem: Money
Famed California pollster Joe Shumate was found dead in his home one month before Election Day 2010, surrounded by sheets of polling data he labored over for the flailing Senate bid of Carly Fiorina.
Upon his death, Fiorina praised Shumate as “the heart and soul” of her team. She issued a news release praising him as a person who believed in “investing in those he worked with” and offering her “sincerest condolences” to his widow.
But records show there was something that Fiorina did not offer his widow: Shumate’s last paycheck, for at least $30,000. It was one of more than 30 invoices, totaling about $500,000, that the multimil*lionaire didn’t settle — even as Fiorina reimbursed herself nearly $1.3 million she lent the campaign. She finally cleared most of the balance in January, a few months before announcing her run for president.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/carly-fiorinas-first-political-campaign-had-a-surprising-problem-money/2015/10/04/c4bdcdd2-50be-11e5-933e-7d06c647a395_story.html
boutons_deux
10-06-2015, 11:23 AM
Car Lie Fiorina padded her resume by 'chairing' a foundation that doesn't exist (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/05/1427984/-Carly-Fiorina-padded-her-resume-by-chairing-a-foundation-that-doesn-t-exist)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/05/1427984/-Carly-Fiorina-padded-her-resume-by-chairing-a-foundation-that-doesn-t-exist?detail=email
billionaires keep financing LOSERS
Koch brothers, other wealthy GOP mega donors warm to Car Lie Fiorina
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/koch-brothers-other-wealthy-gop-mega-donors-warm-to-carly-fiorina/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
They're nuts to think she will win.
Joe the plumber
10-06-2015, 06:12 PM
She's got my support. She is tough and straight forward.
boutons_deux
10-07-2015, 01:47 PM
Carly Fiorina’s Medieval History Degree Will Help Her Beat ISIS, Crush Albigensian Heresy
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Carly-defeats-the-Cathars.jpg
Replying to a military member’s question about her foreign policy qualifications at a town hall event in Windham, Fiorina detailed why she is totally ready to take on the self-proclaimed Islamic State:
“Finally my degree in medieval history and philosophy has come in handy,” Fiorina said Sunday night, “because what ISIS wants to do is drive us back to the Middle Ages, literally.”
She offered some tough talk about being tough and working with allies in the Middle East, said that she’d help Turkey establish a “no-fly zone” along its border with Turkey (without getting into the ugly details about how that could be complicated by the arrival of Russian fighter-bombers), and called ISIS “an evil that must be defeated.” But what was that about her medieval history degree again?
Fiorina listed off a number of brutal techniques that ISIS is using that were common in medieval times and said it is not an exaggeration to say that the group is operating under a mentality based in the Middle Ages.
“Every single one of the techniques that ISIS is using, the crucifixion, the beheadings, the burning alive, those were commonly used techniques in the Middle Ages,” Fiorina told reporters during a media availability, “so we can’t avert our eyes and pretend it’s an exaggeration that ISIS wants to take its territory back to the Middle Ages but that is in truth what they want to do and are attempting to do.”
We’re not sure how carefully she thought through that comparison, though. So what she’s saying is that ISIS is behaving like a bunch of feudal Christians?
As far as any practical strategic insights her education may have equipped her with for dealing with the Islamic extremist group, Fiorina was considerably more vague.
It wasn’t clear whether she was advocating a Crusade,
bringing back the Inquisition (they wouldn’t be expecting that — no one ever does), or
perhaps hoping that the adoption of craftsmen’s guilds and
establishment of trade routes would create economic expansion that would leave ISIS without a constituency.
http://wonkette.com/594632/carly-fiorinas-medieval-history-degree-will-help-her-beat-isis-crush-albigensian-heresy
The Repug KLOWN KAR, fantastic entertainment! :lol
"degree in medieval history and philosophy" before or after she was secretary?
I wonder if she used these secretarial techniques to become CEO: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0274812/
That degree really explains her decision making over the years.. for the worse.
boutons_deux
10-08-2015, 06:47 PM
Léo Apotheker May Have Been Worse H.P. Chief Than Carly Fiorina
Jeffrey A. Sonnenfeld, a professor at the Yale School of Management, has memorably called the rising Republican presidential star Carly Fiorina (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/05/05/us/elections/carly-fiorina.html?inline=nyt-per)“one of the worst technology C.E.O.s in history (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-ceo-jeffrey-sonnenfeld-2016-213163).”
But he didn’t call her the worst technology chief executive in history. In fairness to Ms. Fiorina, she may not even be the worst chief executive ofHewlett-Packard (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/hewlett_packard_corporation/index.html?inline=nyt-org).
A contender for that dubious distinction would surely be Léo Apotheker.
During their tenures at H.P., both Ms. Fiorina and Mr. Apotheker presided over what were hailed as transformative acquisitions:
Compaq, the personal computer company that merged with H.P. in a $25 billion stock swap under Ms. Fiorina in 2001, and
Autonomy, a British software concern that H.P. bought for $11 billion under Mr. Apotheker in 2011.
They were transformative, all right, though hardly in the way their proponents intended.
H.P.’s stock price fell by more than half during Ms. Fiorina’s six-year tenure and
by roughly 50 percent in just the year Mr. Apotheker was chief executive.
The board forced both Ms. Fiorina and Mr. Apotheker to resign.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/business/leo-apotheker-may-have-been-worse-hp-chief-than-carly-fiorina.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0
baseline bum
10-09-2015, 12:40 AM
That degree really explains her decision making over the years.. for the worse.
:lol
JoeChalupa
10-28-2015, 11:20 PM
She didn't do herself any favors tonight. Same strong soundbites. Should Also have gone with clear nail polish.
boutons_deux
01-21-2016, 01:07 PM
Carly Fiorina Accused Of Crashing Kids’ Field Trip And Ushering Them To Anti-Abortion Rally
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Carly Fiorina’s latest campaign stop in Iowa has upset some Des Moines-area parents, who say the GOP presidential candidate “ambushed (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/21/carly-fiorina-accused-of-ambushing-children-for-anti-abortion-rally?CMP=share_btn_tw)” a group of kids on a preschool field trip — and led them to an anti-abortion rally.
On Wednesday morning, Fiorina attended the Iowa Right to Life Presidential Forum (http://www.iowartl.org/2016/01/iowa-right-to-life-presidential-forum-featuring-carly-fiorina/), where she emphasized her support for defunding Planned Parenthood and passing a national abortion ban.
The anti-abortion event was held at the Greater Des Moines Botanical Garden. At the same time, a group of preschoolers was also visiting the botanical garden for a field trip.
According to the Des Moines Register (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/01/20/fiorina-iowa-right-to-life/79079294/), Fiorina “headed straight for a group of giggling 4- and 5-year-olds” when she first arrived at the botanical garden. She reportedly ushered them toward the makeshift stage set up for the anti-abortion event — which featured a large poster of a fetus — without asking permission for the children to sit with her.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/21/3741543/carly-abortion-children/
goddam, I swear rightwingnuts bitches are nastier, crazier than rightwingnut bastards.
Beau, she is not even relevant. Why post this?
boutons_deux
01-21-2016, 03:36 PM
CarLIE's irrelevancy is irrelevant.
She's polling the same Paul and Kasich, so she's got 100Ks, Ms? of supporters.
So what? Kim Kardashian has million of supporters too. Don't care. Carly's campaign is kaput...
She'll pull out of the race soon once she realizes no one is going to give her the VP spot... although that will probably still take longer than it should considering her ego.
boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 08:58 PM
Fiorina: 'If My Husband Did What Bill Clinton Did, I Would Have Left Him'
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/florina-says-that-she-d-of-left-bill-clinton?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
spurraider21
01-28-2016, 11:51 PM
Fiorina: 'If My Husband Did What Bill Clinton Did, I Would Have Left Him'
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/florina-says-that-she-d-of-left-bill-clinton?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29
lol most self respecting women would
boutons_deux
01-29-2016, 09:24 AM
lol most self respecting women would
Any self-respecting PERSON wouldn't egregiously, repeatedly LIE like piece-of-shit CarLIE does, and then double-down on her LIES.
Since when is it CarLIE's, or anybody's, business what goes on within someone else's marriage.
MultiTroll
01-29-2016, 09:47 AM
Could we please have the tapes surface of Fiorina with farm animals.
spurraider21
01-29-2016, 10:51 AM
Any self-respecting PERSON wouldn't egregiously, repeatedly LIE like piece-of-shit CarLIE does, and then double-down on her LIES.
Since when is it CarLIE's, or anybody's, business what goes on within someone else's marriage.
That has nothing to do with the quote you posted. But omgz u said carlie instead of carly, ur such a difference making activist. And you put lie in caps :wow
pgardn
01-29-2016, 11:15 AM
lol most self respecting women would
Its all about forgiving.
Hillary is now closer to Christ AND keeps a guy who is a master politician.
boutons_deux
01-29-2016, 11:23 AM
That has nothing to do with the quote you posted. But omgz u said carlie instead of carly, ur such a difference making activist. And you put lie in caps :wow
I was responding to your silly quote, not my post, if you had seen my use of your phrase.
Buh-bye.
http://www.nytimes.com/live/new-hampshire-primary-2016-election/carly-fiorina-suspends-her-presidential-bid/?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=58884593&pgtype=Homepage
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