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Blake
09-23-2015, 12:24 PM
..Later, Carson said he personally believed Charles Darwin's theory of evolution was encouraged by the devil.

"I personally believe that this theory that Darwin came up with was something that was encouraged by the adversary, and it has become what is scientifically, politically correct," said Carson.

"Amazingly, there are a significant number of scientists who do not believe it but they're afraid to say anything," Carson added, saying he would be writing a book, "The Organ of Species," that shows how the organs of the body refute evolution.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ben-carson-big-bang-a-fairy-tale-theory-of-evolution-encoura

boutons_deux
09-23-2015, 12:27 PM
Carson gives (professional, educated) blacks a bad name

hater
09-23-2015, 12:30 PM
Dr huxtable has zero chance.

I am starting to doubt dear Mr Trump as well and the HP bitch :lol no HP CEO will be president :lol

jebBusb it is unless Rubio can kick some ass. Rand Paul will be in the race for a while as well.

Most likely a Bush vs a Clinton for the white house :lmao this fucking country :lol

m>s
09-23-2015, 01:00 PM
^bush is like single digits in every poll fuck off

hater
09-23-2015, 01:08 PM
^bush is like single digits in every poll fuck off

I will make sure and bump this in 4 weeks.

Hoping I'm wrong btw

Splits
09-23-2015, 02:33 PM
Meanwhile, in not-crazy land:


"God is not a divine being or a magician, but the Creator who brought everything to life," the pope said. "Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve."

DMX7
09-23-2015, 02:42 PM
I like this Pope.

Pelicans78
09-23-2015, 02:51 PM
He's a terrible candidate.

Blake
09-23-2015, 03:06 PM
Meanwhile, in not-crazy land:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02629/pope-rio-copacaban_2629346e.jpg

Nothing crazy here

hater
09-23-2015, 04:05 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02629/pope-rio-copacaban_2629346e.jpg

Nothing crazy here

:lol

DMX7
09-23-2015, 04:11 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02629/pope-rio-copacaban_2629346e.jpg

Nothing crazy here

Will he be visiting with little Ahmed Mohammad during his trip here to the U.S.?

At least he speaks reasonably. The costume is a bit much though. I agree with that.

pgardn
09-23-2015, 06:44 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ben-carson-big-bang-a-fairy-tale-theory-of-evolution-encoura

So.

The good doctor has not a frrgn clue what he is talking about. This is a "smart" ignorant man. This guy reminds me of Avante. You know he had to memorize tons of crap to get through med school. You know he must be talented in his abilities to string processes together. But... He totally does not get one of man's greatest scientific triumphs.

Amazing. Those vids are absolute garbage. This is the perfect example of why deeming someone "smart" is such a capricious act. This guy is not dumb, he just has no clue what he is talking about. I don't understand why people set themselves up like this.

I DO NOT KNOW. Why is this phrase so difficult... Why get up in front of a crowd and start pontificating on subjects you know little to nothing about. At least Avante limits himself to Spurstalk.

pgardn
09-23-2015, 06:53 PM
He is black, well spoken, an achiever, and totally out of his league. I honestly don't think a white Republican with the same credentials in medicine would have made it this far. The good doctor is a big black token.

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 05:55 AM
Ben Carson: The World Was Created in Six Days. Literally.


http://www.motherjones.com/files/imagecache/top-of-content-main/carson_3.jpg

Ben Carson, one of the top-tier contenders in the GOP presidential primary, has long been known as an ardent creationist. He has debated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPxGnN7RV1Y) prominent scientists who defend evolution, and it's no secret that his advocacy of creationism springs (http://www.newsweek.com/ben-carson-seventh-day-adventist-374041)from his deep faith in the Seventh-day Adventist Church, a Christian religion established in the mid-1800s. Creationism is a core belief for many Seventh-day Adventists, and one of the religion's founders, Ellen White, was one of the first purveyors of the notion that the Earth is merely 6,000 years old.

"I am not a hard-and-fast person who says the Earth is only 6,000 years old." Yet Carson quickly added, "I do believe in the six-day creation." And he meant literally six days, not metaphorical days — that is, not days that might have lasted millions of years.

He explained:

It says in the beginning God created the heaven and Earth. It doesn't say when he created them, except for in the beginning. So the Earth could have been here for a long time before he started creating things on it. But when he did start doing that, he made it very specifically clear to us the evening and the morning were the next day because he knew that people would come along and try to say that, "Oh, it was millions and millions of years." And then what else did he say in the very first chapter? That each thing brought forth after its own kind. Because he knew that people would come along and say, you know, this changed into that and this changed into that and this changed into that. So at the very beginning of the Bible, he puts that to rest.


So Carson may not be hard-and-fast on the when of creationism, but he is a biblical literalist on how long it took for the living Earth and all its inhabitants to come into being: six days.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/ben-carson-creationism-six-days

Blake
09-24-2015, 08:24 AM
It's beyond unsettling that these freaks are this close to being potus

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 08:26 AM
It's beyond unsettling that these freaks are this close to being potus

Donny T, Carson, and none of the others are at all close to being POTUS.

Blake
09-24-2015, 08:52 AM
Donny T, Carson, and none of the others are at all close to being POTUS.

the odds are against them but they're closer to it than most. It's still unsettling that they're in the arena at all.

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 09:50 AM
the odds are against them but they're closer to it than most. It's still unsettling that they're in the arena at all.

they are closer to being POTUS than everybody else, duh, but they are not going to be Pres.

the Klown Kar is what you get from the VRWC's SCOTUS5 tools producing C-U whcih produces VRWC $100Ms that allows all these Klowns to declare.

Klowns is what you get by the VRWC tea baggers and Christian Taliban minority tails wagging the Repug dog.

VRWC/Repugs/Christian Taliban are much bigger threats to USA than the boogeymen, fabricated, hyped outrages they distract their base with as they loot Human-Americans' wealth.

Blake
09-24-2015, 09:51 AM
they are closer to being POTUS than everybody else, duh.


Exactly. Duh.

hater
09-24-2015, 11:39 AM
Bush already raising from the dead in the polls.

Wetback is also gaining.

I am getting more confident it will be those 2 plus rand in the end.

Trump, fluorina and Dr huxtable just don't have an organization to navigate them. They are toast.

Will bump this later....

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 01:51 PM
The Soft Bigotry of Ben Carson

Then on Tuesday, at a news conference, Carson said, “It has nothing to do with being a Muslim.” He continued: “That was the question that was specifically asked. If the question had been asked about a Christian and they said, ‘Would you support a Christian who supports establishing a theocracy?’ I would have said no.”

Only his original comment was unambiguous: It had everything to do with being a Muslim. And it was bigoted.

But this isn’t Carson’s first time at this rodeo. This has become his modus operandi.

Carson has a way of speaking in a flat, sing-song-y tone while flashing his toothy, 100-watt smile, that can be utterly disarming, if not completely charming.

His undeniable pedigree as an acclaimed pediatric neurosurgeon adds an air of gravitas to his nonsensical utterances and provides some cover for what can be poisonously harmful, over-the-line invectives.

Carson says in low register what others shout in anger, and he gets a bit of a pass because of the discordant message and method of delivery.

Just because a person is soft-spoken doesn’t mean that he is well-spoken.

It’s not that others have not criticized the president before or since, but it was the particularity of the racial imagery of Carson’s critique — one smart, accomplished black man undressing another in public — that gave it particular power. It insulated the attack from racial characterization. He said things from the lips of a black conservative that roiled the minds of white ones. And it represented a prominent breaking of ranks, a slicing off of black solidarity from not only Democratic loyalty but also from fidelity with this president.

Since then, Carson’s rhetoric has seemed to get only more reckless.

He has called Obama a psychopath (http://www.gq.com/story/ben-carson-tea-party?currentPage=1) and a liar. He has compared Obama’s supporters to Nazi sympathizers (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/hes-already-a-famous-surgeon-and-author-so-why-is-ben-carson-toying-with-a-longshot-presidential-bid/2014/08/28/dc183400-2e5e-11e4-994d-202962a9150c_story.html). He has said (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2013/10/11/ben-carson-obamacare-worst-thing-since-slavery/) that Obamacare is the “worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery,” even worse (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/05/really-dr-carson-obamacare-is-worse-than-9-11.html) than the terrorist attacks on 9/11.

He has asserted that being gay is “absolutely” a choice (http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/04/politics/ben-carson-prisons-gay-choice/) as evidenced by people who “go into prison straight — and when they come out, they’re gay.” He later apologized in a statement that read in part:
“I do not pretend to know how every individual came to their sexual orientation. I regret that my words to express that concept were hurtful and divisive. For that I apologize unreservedly to all that were offended.”

And even when his rhetoric isn’t reckless, it can be wrongheaded.

He has used the shallowness of race as a biological construct to disavow and diminish the depth of racism as a very real cultural construct.

And he makes the mistake many people do, of using his personal story of success as a societal prescription for all problems. I have always held that working hard and following the rules are their own reward, but I am not naïve enough to believe that personal behavior can completely countervail structural oppression.



Carson knows that his outrageous antics in his role as the anti-Obama are a most profitable enterprise. He mixes political critique with Christian theological messaging to rake in quite a bit of money on the lecture circuit.

As Politico reported (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/ben-carsons-godly-riches-119784#ixzz3mafZwJos)in July, Carson “brought in nearly $2 million delivering inspirational speeches to faith-based groups like Christian high schools and pregnancy centers in 2014,” with speaking fees ranging “from $12,320 to $48,500.”

This is a sad turn — spurred, I believe, by profit motive — for such a great legacy.

I, like many other African-Americans, had come to see Carson as a hero before his foray into politics because of the resonance of his personal story — a poor inner-city child being raised by a driven single mother who valued education and instilled in him a sense of character that would allow him to become a staggering success.

Carson was the embodiment of possibility. His 1990 book, “Gifted Hands,” was required reading for many young people.

But as a political figure, his stature is diminished as he reveals himself to be intolerant, bordering on soft bigotry, and also reckless and needlessly inflammatory.

No one can discount what Carson accomplished professionally, but those accomplishments must now stand shoulder to shoulder with this new persona: whisper-soft purveyor of hyperbolic hucksterism.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/24/opinion/charles-blow-the-soft-bigotry-of-ben-carson.html

ducks
09-24-2015, 01:58 PM
quotes from all candiates are laughable at times
yes all even all the ones in the office

boutons_deux
09-27-2015, 07:50 PM
WATCH: CNN Grills Carson On Muslim Comments Until Manager Ends Interview

Tapper and Carson spent several minutes of back and forth.

"You're assuming that Muslim Americans put their religion ahead of the country," Tapper said to Carson.

"I'm assuming that if you accept all the tenets of Islam that you would have a very difficult time abiding under the Constitution of the United States," Carson replied.

The conversation ended when a voice off-camera, which CNN identified as Carson's campaign manager, Armstrong Williams said, "This interview is over."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-islam-doctrines-muslim-president?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

spurraider21
09-27-2015, 10:43 PM
carson's campaign manager should be telling HIM to stfu

DMX7
09-28-2015, 08:29 AM
Not that Ben Carson isn't legitimately saying some dumb things, but the reporter was clearly trying to set him up to say something stupid.

boutons_deux
09-28-2015, 08:38 AM
Who wants a Christian Taliban as President, who adheres RELIGIOUSLY to all the bullshit in the Old Testament, implementing Christian Sharia?

Sportcamper
09-28-2015, 08:55 AM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02629/pope-rio-copacaban_2629346e.jpg

“Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.”...Matthew 8:20

hater
09-28-2015, 09:12 AM
Apparently Muslims cannot even pronounce the word homosexual so all the gays will have to move if a Muslim bcomes president :lmao

RandomGuy
09-28-2015, 04:19 PM
..Later, Carson said he personally believed Charles Darwin's theory of evolution was encouraged by the devil.

"I personally believe that this theory that Darwin came up with was something that was encouraged by the adversary, and it has become what is scientifically, politically correct," said Carson.

"Amazingly, there are a significant number of scientists who do not believe it but they're afraid to say anything," Carson added, saying he would be writing a book, "The Organ of Species," that shows how the organs of the body refute evolution.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ben-carson-big-bang-a-fairy-tale-theory-of-evolution-encoura

Wow, that kind of harshes his buzz as a literate type. Astounds me that there are still people out there, much less doctors, who deny a basic, central aspect of biology.

RandomGuy
09-28-2015, 04:22 PM
The Soft Bigotry of Ben Carson

Then on Tuesday, at a news conference, Carson said, “It has nothing to do with being a Muslim.” He continued: “That was the question that was specifically asked. If the question had been asked about a Christian and they said, ‘Would you support a Christian who supports establishing a theocracy?’ I would have said no.”

Only his original comment was unambiguous: It had everything to do with being a Muslim. And it was bigoted.

But this isn’t Carson’s first time at this rodeo. This has become his modus operandi.

Carson has a way of speaking in a flat, sing-song-y tone while flashing his toothy, 100-watt smile, that can be utterly disarming, if not completely charming.

His undeniable pedigree as an acclaimed pediatric neurosurgeon adds an air of gravitas to his nonsensical utterances and provides some cover for what can be poisonously harmful, over-the-line invectives.

Carson says in low register what others shout in anger, and he gets a bit of a pass because of the discordant message and method of delivery.

Just because a person is soft-spoken doesn’t mean that he is well-spoken.

It’s not that others have not criticized the president before or since, but it was the particularity of the racial imagery of Carson’s critique — one smart, accomplished black man undressing another in public — that gave it particular power. It insulated the attack from racial characterization. He said things from the lips of a black conservative that roiled the minds of white ones. And it represented a prominent breaking of ranks, a slicing off of black solidarity from not only Democratic loyalty but also from fidelity with this president.

Since then, Carson’s rhetoric has seemed to get only more reckless.

He has called Obama a psychopath (http://www.gq.com/story/ben-carson-tea-party?currentPage=1) and a liar. He has compared Obama’s supporters to Nazi sympathizers (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/hes-already-a-famous-surgeon-and-author-so-why-is-ben-carson-toying-with-a-longshot-presidential-bid/2014/08/28/dc183400-2e5e-11e4-994d-202962a9150c_story.html). He has said (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2013/10/11/ben-carson-obamacare-worst-thing-since-slavery/) that Obamacare is the “worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery,” even worse (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/05/really-dr-carson-obamacare-is-worse-than-9-11.html) than the terrorist attacks on 9/11.

He has asserted that being gay is “absolutely” a choice (http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/04/politics/ben-carson-prisons-gay-choice/) as evidenced by people who “go into prison straight — and when they come out, they’re gay.” He later apologized in a statement that read in part:
“I do not pretend to know how every individual came to their sexual orientation. I regret that my words to express that concept were hurtful and divisive. For that I apologize unreservedly to all that were offended.”

And even when his rhetoric isn’t reckless, it can be wrongheaded.

He has used the shallowness of race as a biological construct to disavow and diminish the depth of racism as a very real cultural construct.

And he makes the mistake many people do, of using his personal story of success as a societal prescription for all problems. I have always held that working hard and following the rules are their own reward, but I am not naïve enough to believe that personal behavior can completely countervail structural oppression.



Carson knows that his outrageous antics in his role as the anti-Obama are a most profitable enterprise. He mixes political critique with Christian theological messaging to rake in quite a bit of money on the lecture circuit.

As Politico reported (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/ben-carsons-godly-riches-119784#ixzz3mafZwJos)in July, Carson “brought in nearly $2 million delivering inspirational speeches to faith-based groups like Christian high schools and pregnancy centers in 2014,” with speaking fees ranging “from $12,320 to $48,500.”

This is a sad turn — spurred, I believe, by profit motive — for such a great legacy.

I, like many other African-Americans, had come to see Carson as a hero before his foray into politics because of the resonance of his personal story — a poor inner-city child being raised by a driven single mother who valued education and instilled in him a sense of character that would allow him to become a staggering success.

Carson was the embodiment of possibility. His 1990 book, “Gifted Hands,” was required reading for many young people.

But as a political figure, his stature is diminished as he reveals himself to be intolerant, bordering on soft bigotry, and also reckless and needlessly inflammatory.

No one can discount what Carson accomplished professionally, but those accomplishments must now stand shoulder to shoulder with this new persona: whisper-soft purveyor of hyperbolic hucksterism.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/24/opinion/charles-blow-the-soft-bigotry-of-ben-carson.html

Interesting read. Haven't been keeping up with the stuff out of the GOP clown car, but not overly surprised.

RandomGuy
09-28-2015, 05:10 PM
It's beyond unsettling that these freaks are this close to being potus

Nah. They are competing for who will be the Biggest Loser, when they get shut the fuck out of the general election.

Electoral math is not going to be kind to the GOP in a year or so.

Jacob1983
09-29-2015, 01:00 AM
He didn't even know what hush puppies were. That's almost as bad as Pat Robertson not knowing what mac and cheese is.

boutons_deux
09-29-2015, 08:33 AM
Ben Carson's Follies: 7 of the Most Stupefying Statements by the GOP's Favorite Neurosurgeon

here are some of his greatest hits:

1. Gayness must be a choice, because prisoners who are raped come out gay.

Like any generic homophobe, Carson has no problem repeating tired falsehoods about how legalized gay marriage will lead to bestiality and pedophila. But he got some points for originality when he told Chris Cuomo in an interview that homosexuality was absolutely a choice "ecause a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight— and when they come out, they're gay."

Cuomo’s jaw dropped long enough for Carson to add: "So, did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question."

This could absolutely take the cake for comedic idiocy, if only homophobic violence and prison rape were not horrific real-life problems.

What it proves is that Carson will say anything. And that, even when it comes to medical science—the preponderance of which indicates that homosexuality is not a choice—the doctor is out.
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2. Obamacare is worse than slavery. We live in a Gestapo age.

Carson earns a lot of conservative love for his harsh criticism of Obama. A black man maligning the first black president is practically orgasmic for these folks. After uttering both of the above provocations, he doubled down on them in an interview with Wolf Blitzer, accusing everyone of going into a “tizzy” because he used the slavery and Nazi analogies. Here’s Carson claiming his comparisons were apt:

Nazi Germany experienced something horrible. The people in Nazi Germany largely didn't believe in what Hitler was doing. But they didn't say anything? Of course not, they kept their mouth shut. The fact that our government is using instruments of government like the IRS to punish its opponents, this is not the kind of thing that is a Democrat or a Republican issue. This is an American issue ... A lot of people do not feel free to express themselves.


Which people are those, exactly? Not sure. Certainly, the Gestapo has not been able silence him. And on the slavery analogy:

Slavery was a horrible thing and affected many people in horrible ways, some of those effects still present today. So, no, it is not the same as slavery. However, what needs to be understood here is that the way this country was set up, the people—we the people were set up at the pinnacle of power in this nation. The government is supposed to conform to our will. By taking the most important thing you have, your health and your health care, and turning that over to the government, you fundamentally shift the power, a huge chunk of it, from the people to the government.


Never mind that the people’s will is to have health care. Details, details.

The point is, Dr. Ben Carson should be able to use whatever crazy analogy he wants in order to get people’s attention, and he should not be subjected to some random truth-telling standard. Because, Hitler.

3. The Big Bang is a “fairy tale” and the notion of evolution was encouraged by the devil.

There is no more telling evidence that the “man of science” in the Republican race not only cherry-picks his science to gel with his fundamentalist Christian beliefs, but denies the most basic science out there. While there is no word yet on whether Carson believes in gravity, it’s worth quoting Carson’s insane Big Bang ramblings at some length:

I find the Big Bang really quite fascinating. I mean, here you have all these highfalutin scientists and they're saying it was this gigantic explosion and everything came into perfect order. Now these are the same scientists that go around touting the second law of thermodynamics, which is entropy, which says that things move toward a state of disorganization. So now you're gonna have this big explosion and everything becomes perfectly organized and when you ask them about it they say, 'Well we can explain this, based on probability theory because if there's enough big explosions, over a long period of time, billions and billions of years, one of them will be the perfect explosion.' ... So I say what you're telling me is if I blow a hurricane through a junkyard enough times over billions and billions of years, eventually after one of those hurricanes there will be a 747 fully loaded and ready to fly. (Carson adds that the Big Bang is "even more ridiculous" because there is order to the universe.) Well, I mean, it's even more ridiculous than that 'cause our solar system, not to mention the universe outside of that, is extraordinarily well organized, to the point where we can predict 70 years away when a comet is coming. Now that type of organization to just come out of an explosion? I mean, you want to talk about fairy tales, that is amazing.


Later in the interview, Carson said he personally believed Charles Darwin's theory of evolution was encouraged by the devil.

As Charles Pierce wrote in Esquire: “What in the name of Edwin Hubble is this man talking about? Why is this man allowed out in public without a handler?"

4. There’s no war on women; there may be a war on women’s insides.

In a speech on the steps of the Arkansas Capitol in Little Rock this summer, Carson took on the notion that Republicans are waging a war on women, saying: "They tell you that there’s a war on women. There is no war on women. There may be a war on what’s inside of women, but there is no war on women in this country."

It was a mystifying piece of rhetoric that remains unexplained to this day. Just what part of women’s insides is there a war on? And why is that even remotely an OK thing to say, let alone condone?

No clue. It was not the only insanity of that speech, during which he called slaves immigrants who “came here involuntarily in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less.”

5. Nope, I don’t see any global warming.

Unlike other conservative ideologues, Carson does not exactly deny climate change, and he certainly does not use the tired line “I’m not a scientist,” because technically he is. What he does say is that global climate change is “irrelevant.” Irrelevant to what, we’re not sure. He just thinks, unlike most scientists, that it’s not manmade, and “there’s always going to be either cooling or warming going on.” He also thinks discussion of what to do about climate change is a distraction. From what? Again, unclear. Maybe, he suggested, the EPA and how it over-regulates things.

Carson stayed true to this devil-may-care attitude about the environment on a recent jaunt to California in the midst of one of its worst droughts and most horrific wildfires in recent history. He just did not see that as climate change. And if he does not see it, it isn’t there.

6. Nope, I don’t see any racism.

Add racism to the ever-growing list of realities that Carson does not see. On a trip to Ferguson, Mo. this summer, Carson did not see racism. Never mind that whole Department of Justice report detailing chronic systemic racist policing in Ferguson. Not to mention a black community that has been starved of resources and services.

Rather than racism, Carson pitched the problem in Ferguson—and everywhere else black people suffer disproportionately—as one of education and respect. “Education is the great divide,” Carson said. “Children need to understand that they have to get a good education.”

So, to sum up, racism which does not exist is not to blame. Children, who do exist, are.

7. Planned Parenthood is a plot to kill black babies.

With this statement, Carson placed himself solidly in the Alex Jones insane conspiracy theory camp. He also called Planned Parenthood a bigger threat to black people than racism. We are running out of adjectives. Bonkers, insane, batsh*t crazy, certifiable… all seem inadequate to the task. A portion of Carson’s comments about Planned Parenthood:

…one of the reasons that you find most of their clinics in black neighborhoods is so that you can find way to control that population. And I think people should go back and read about Margaret Sanger, who founded this place — a woman who Hillary Clinton by the way says she admires. Look and see what many people in Nazi Germany thought about her.


Note how he cleverly worked in another 'Nazi Germany' reference. No need to shout when you can always use the dog whistle.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/ben-carsons-follies-7-most-stupefying-statements-gops-favorite-neurosurgeon?akid=13528.187590.6Eac7O&rd=1&src=newsletter1043186&t=2

Repugs, tea baggers, bubbas, rednecks, Christian Taliban! They sure prefer their politicians to be as dumb, ignorant as a bag of hammers.

This asshole gives "thugs" a bad name.

boutons_deux
10-03-2015, 08:02 AM
Watch Ben Carson’s bizarre rant on science and climate change: ‘Gravity, where did it come from?’


Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson engaged in another round of climate change denial while also veering off into remarks about evolution and gravity during a Sept. 30 appearance at the University of New Hampshire, the New Republic reported. (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122989/ben-carson-climate-change-gravity-where-did-it-come)

“The way the earth rotates on its axis, how far away it is from the sun. These are all very complex things,” Carson said in response to a question from the audience.

“Gravity, where did it come from? I mean, there are so many things. So I don’t denigrate the people who say ‘Eh, eh, whatever, somehow it happened.’ I don’t denigrate them. I just don’t have that much faith.”

“You don’t believe in climate change or evolution, I believe. And I was just wondering, do you seriously not believe that climate change is happening?”

Carson — who has called research concerning global warming “irrelevant” (http://grist.org/politics/it-doesnt-take-a-brain-surgeon-to-tell-ben-carson-is-clueless-on-climate/) — accused news outlets of distorting his remarks before launching into his answer.

“Is there climate change? Of course there’s climate change,” Carson said. “Any point in time temperatures are going up or temperatures are going down. When that stops happening, that’s when we’re in big trouble.”

Carson went on to state that there was “no reason” to make climate change a political issue, before sharing his thoughts on evolution.

“I do believe in micro-evolution, or natural selection,” he said. “But I believe that God gave the creatures He made the ability to adapt to their surroundings. Because He’s very smart. He didn’t want to start over every 50 years.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/watch-ben-carsons-bizarre-anti-science-rant-gravity-where-did-it-come-from/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

yawn, just your typical Repug stupid, ignorant shitbag of a political leader being followed by stupid, ignorant shitbags of Repug followers.

djohn2oo8
10-03-2015, 10:15 AM
Jeb Bush quotes getting just as bad as Carson. "Stuff happens" is what Bush responded to the Oregon shooting.

boutons_deux
10-03-2015, 10:26 AM
Jeb Bush quotes getting just as bad as Carson. "Stuff happens" is what Bush responded to the Oregon shooting.

Maher's insult dubya, "the smart brother is named JEB", was funny, but JEB is proving as dumb, politically, and as 1% corrupted, as dubya.

boutons_deux
10-03-2015, 10:50 AM
Bent Carson pandering to the Christian Taliban's Islamophobia

Ben Carson Wants Muslim Civil Rights Group to Lose Tax-Exempt Status

It turns out that Ben Carson, campaigning on a Religious Right-endorsed platform, which regularly mixes religion and politics, doesn’t think Muslims should be able to mix religion and politics.

He wants CAIR – the Council on American-Islamic Relations – to lose its tax-exempt status because it criticized him by pointing to Article VI of the Constitution and calling on him to withdraw from the presidential race.

Taking to his website (https://www.bencarson.com/landing/cair/page-fbad?sc=fbfeedcair) to whine most hypocritically and righteously, Carson said “The IRS should immediately revoke CAIR’s tax-exempt status.”

He went on to say:“This is not the first time that CAIR has disrespected U.S. laws or America. It has previously lost its tax-exempt status by failing to file federal taxes three years in a row.

It had also been named by federal prosecutors as an unindicted co-conspirator in a criminal conspiracy to funnel money to Hamas, a terrorist organization.”And even falsely asserted that:

“Under the Obama administration, the IRS has systematically targeted conservative nonprofit groups for politically motivated audits and harassment. The agency should now properly do its job and punish the real violators of America’s laws and regulations.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/03/ben-carson-muslim-civil-rights-group-lose-tax-exempt-status.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux
10-04-2015, 06:55 AM
Ben Carson: AP History will make students join ISIS (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/01/1333611/-Ben-Carson-AP-History-will-make-students-join-ISIS)

Fox News commentator and likely 2016 presidential also-ran (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/23/1331863/-Ben-Carson-says-the-likelihood-is-strong-he-ll-be-running-for-president) Ben Carson is joining the chorus of far-right howling against the College Board's new Advanced Placement U.S. History framework. Carson is even one-upping the conservative members of the Jefferson County, Colorado, school board who've threatened to substitute (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/26/1332617/-Colorado-school-board-member-opens-her-mouth-shows-why-students-are-right-to-protest) a curriculum that stresses respect for authority and capitalism. Carson, though, is taking the rhetoric up a notch (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/ben-carson-ap-us-history_n_5910982.html):


"There's only two paragraphs in there about George Washington ... little or nothing about Martin Luther King, a whole section on slavery and how evil we are, a whole section on Japanese internment camps and how we slaughtered millions of Japanese with our bombs," Carson said at the event.He continued, "I think most people when they finish that course, they'd be ready to go sign up for ISIS ... We have got to stop this silliness crucifying ourselves."


AP History and ISIS in the same rant—that is some skilled intertwining of conservative boogeymen. Obviously none of this makes any sense whatsoever. Is the course supposed to teach about Martin Luther King Jr. without teaching about segregation?

Because if it teaches about segregation, isn't that similar to teaching about slavery and internment camps?

The turn to ISIS, though, is particularly revealing. The implicit suggestion is that if teens learn that the United States ever did anything bad in its entire history, they will turn against the nation today. Apparently Carson doesn't believe it's possible to learn from history and do better ... which might explain something about his party's politics.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/01/1333611/-Ben-Carson-AP-History-will-make-students-join-ISIS

And Ms of Repug voters prefer this asshole for President! :lol

boutons_deux
10-04-2015, 06:45 PM
Ben Carson’s Destructive Lies: 4 Racist Assumptions Endorsed & Magnified By Black Conservatives

The neurosurgeon-turned-candidate has eagerly joined the GOP in its campaign against racial justice.

1) Black people are on a Democratic or Liberal “Plantation”

This twisted interpretation of the political agency and intelligence of black Americans is immensely popular on the White Right. The “Democratic Plantation” lie is rooted in a white supremacist fantasy and “Gone with the Wind”-style fairy tale of happy black slaves singing, dancing, having sex, and being protected by benevolent white masters. This racist fiction ignores how black Americans self-manumitted, fought in the Civil War to free themselves, remade democracy with Reconstruction, and then made the reasoned choice to switch over to the Democratic Party en masse because of the policies of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and then later those of the Johnson and Kennedy administrations.

In reality, the slave “plantation” was a charnel and rape house. It quite literally used the bodies of millions of black people as fuel for (white) American and European empire.
There is a special hostility in the United States towards black Americans and their history of struggle, survival, and freedom. No one on mainstream cable news, among the commentariat, or in the class of political elites would dare to suggest that Jews who support the Democratic Party are in a type of “gas chamber” or “death camp.” Such an egregious insult can only be leveled with impunity at African-Americans.

2) Black people are extremely emotional and are unable to make intelligent political decisions

This white supremacist fantasy reflects centuries-old racist beliefs that white people are supremely rational and that people of color—blacks in particular—are impulsive, unintelligent, libidinous, and impulsive.

On a range of public policy issues, black Americans have shown a remarkable amount of foresight and wisdom, being years or decades ahead of white public opinion on issues such as ending the Iraq War, the failures of George W. Bush’s leadership and administration and access to healthcare, among other issues. Social scientists have also detailed how African-Americans use complex decision making and other heuristics to factor in the realities of life in a racist society, the importance of the Black Freedom Struggle, and individual self-advancement. Some scholars of American politics (https://ase.tufts.edu/polsci/faculty/glaser/) even go so far as to suggest that black people may be more sophisticated in their political behavior than whites because of the former’s need to more carefully discern power dynamics and be sensitive to political partisanship and ideology.

3) Black Americans vote Democrat because they want “free things”
As I wrote in an earlier essay at Salon (http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/jeb_bush_is_erasing_history_why_his_comments_about _black_americans_are_even_worse_than_you_thought/), this claim is both ahistorical, and also overlooks the most basic nature of politics. Politics is fundamentally about receiving benefits from the State. This is the core of interest group behavior, voting, and advocacy. To the degree that black people want “free things” they are no different from any other group. Moreover, in reality, it is White America that has been built on stealing “free stuff” from people of color (most obviously land from First Nations peoples and labor from black folks) and whose members receive a disproportionate amount of subsidies from what is known as “the submerged state”.

4) Black Americans are low-information voters who are ill-informed

As documented by the American Press Institute (https://www.americanpressinstitute.org/publications/reports/survey-research/news-consumption-patterns-african-americans-hispanics/) (API), Black Americans and whites may have slightly different news consumption patterns and habits, but the claim that African-Americans are somehow massively “less informed” than white people is specious.

The API reports that,

“Even with concerns about coverage of their communities in the news, large majorities of African Americans and Hispanics are avid news consumers and their general news habits are similar to national averages. Substantial numbers of Americans say they watch, read, or hear the news at least once a day (76 percent) and also say they enjoy keeping up with the news a lot or some (88 percent).

“But there are some differences by race and ethnicity in the frequency of news consumption. Non-Hispanic whites (80 percent) are more likely to say they get news daily than are African Americans (70 percent) or Hispanics (70 percent).”


The suggestion that black Americans are somehow ignorant and “tricked” into supporting the Democratic Party because they do not have access to correct information is especially absurd given that Fox News viewers, the vast majority of whom are white, constitute one of the least informed publics (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118066/brookings-survey-fox-news-home-most-conservative-republicans) in the United States.
* * *
These defamations and slurs on the civic virtue, character, and intelligence of Black Americans are easily refuted. However, these lies are still especially dangerous because black conservatives like Ben Carson give them a veneer of truth and authenticity—thus validating the racist anti-black beliefs held by many white Americans.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/ben-carsons-destructive-lies-4-racist-assumptions-endorsed-magnified-black

aka, Black on Black slime

boutons_deux
10-05-2015, 02:01 PM
Ben Carson Cites Fake Thomas Jefferson Quote To Argue That Gun Control Is 'Ridiculous'

Ben Carson reacted to the shooting of ten people at an Oregon community college last week by warning that it would be used as “an excuse to grab people’s guns.”

“My thinking is that we’re not going to use that as an excuse to take people’s guns, that’s ridiculous, guns don’t kill people,” Carson told Iowa conservative radio host Jan Mickelson (http://mickelson.libsyn.com/friday-october-2-2015) on Friday.

Carson also falsely claimed that the shooter targeted the college because it was “a gun-free zone.” The school was in fact not a gun-free zone and several students on campus were concealed carrying at the time of the shooting. (http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2015/10/umpqua_community_college_not_a.html)

The people who want to get rid of our gun rights, I want them to tell me how exactly that stops these kinds of incidents from happening. Because the people who are going to commit these crimes, they don’t care about your silly rules, they’re not going to pay attention to them. So all you’re going to do is create more vulnerability, as Thomas Jefferson said. He said the people who are going to be disadvantaged are the ones who are law-abiding. The passage to which Carson seems to be referring was actually written by an 18th century Italian philosopher ; Jefferson transcribed the passage in a notebook, and historians disagree on what his thoughts on it were. -

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ben-carson-cites-fake-thomas-jefferson-quote-argue-gun-control-ridiculous

All you rightwingnuts, Religious nuts have is lies, lies, lies, slander, fantasies in a make-believe universe.

DarrinS
10-05-2015, 02:12 PM
lol, righwingwatch

boutons_deux
10-05-2015, 02:14 PM
lol, righwingwatch

... which is only quoting directly your beloved 7th Day Adventist nutcase.

Blake
10-05-2015, 05:48 PM
.... Dr. Ben Carson, a pediatric neurosurgeon, a member of the distinguished National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine, and the author of six best selling books, said that it takes faith to believe in God and to believe in evolution because both are “religion,” and he stressed that it requires “a lot more faith to believe in evolution.”

"I think it’s quite evident from what you’ve seen tonight, it takes faith to believe in God, it takes faith to believe in evolution,” said Dr. Carson during a speech at the Celebration of Creation conference, as*reported*by the Adventist News Network.

“I think it takes a lot more faith to believe in evolution than it does to believe in God,” he said....

http://cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/ben-carson-it-takes-lot-more-faith-believe-evolution-believe-god-evolution



The ol it takes more faith to believe in evolution line.

Nut bar

DMX7
10-05-2015, 05:55 PM
The ol it takes more faith to believe in evolution line.

Nut bar

Co-Signed

tlongII
10-05-2015, 07:39 PM
Nah. They are competing for who will be the Biggest Loser, when they get shut the fuck out of the general election.

Electoral math is not going to be kind to the GOP in a year or so.

Not if Hillary wins the nomination.

boutons_deux
10-06-2015, 10:46 AM
Ben Carson admits GOP gun policy defeat: Obama should skip meeting families of Oregon shooting victims, wait for “the next one”

Ben Carson unwittingly confessed that his party’s obstructionism on all gun control legislation means that it is only a matter of time before there is another school shooting like the one that occurred in Roseburg, Oregon.

Carson was bemoaning the manner in which President Barack Obama and Democratic hopeful Hillary Clinton were deliberately “politicizing” the shooting. “Imagine a politician politicizing something,” he said. “When do we have people that actually want to solve our problems, rather than just politicize everything?”

“Would you still go? Would you still go if you were president?”

“Probably not,” Carson replied. “I would probably have so many things on my agenda that I’d go to the next one.”

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/06/ben_carson_admits_gop_gun_policy_defeat_obama_shou ld_skip_meeting_families_of_oregon_shooting_victim s_wait_for_the_next_one/

ducks
10-06-2015, 11:02 AM
if my kid died in the shooting there my last person I would want to see is Obama
him going to Oregon will cost millions where a phone call might cost $10.00

Splits
10-06-2015, 05:36 PM
651518606786756608

Glad he thinks he's so funny. "That way we don't all up dead, hehehehe"

boutons_deux
10-07-2015, 01:28 PM
'Never saw a body with bullet holes more devastating than loss of gun rights' (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/06/1428342/-Ben-Carson-Never-saw-a-body-with-bullet-holes-more-devastating-than-loss-of-gun-rights)


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/06/1428342/-Ben-Carson-Never-saw-a-body-with-bullet-holes-more-devastating-than-loss-of-gun-rights?detail=email

boutons_deux
10-07-2015, 03:08 PM
"Pompeii Victims Should Have Outrun Lava"

WASHINGTON — Citizens of the Roman town of Pompeii who were victims of Mt. Vesuvius’s eruption in 79 A.D. could have survived if they had “just outrun the lava,” the neurosurgeon Ben Carson told Fox News on Wednesday.

“Most of the plaster casts we have of Pompeii victims show them basically just lying down and whatnot,” he said. “If I had been in Pompeii and I heard Mt. Vesuvius erupting, you can bet I would have made a run for it.”

He said another option open to residents of Pompeii would have been “to fight the volcano.”

“Archeologists estimate that the population of Pompeii was about eleven thousand,” he said. “You can’t tell me that if eleven thousand people put their minds to it they couldn’t beat one volcano.”

Carson said he would spend the next week on the campaign trail dispensing helpful tips about how people can defeat earthquakes, tsunamis, and giant asteroids.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/ben-carson-pompeii-victims-should-have-outrun-lava?mbid=nl_100715%20Borowitz%20Newsletter%20(1)&CNDID=&spMailingID=8136654&spUserID=MjczNzc0Njk0NDAS1&spJobID=780946433&spReportId=NzgwOTQ2NDMzS0

boutons_deux
10-08-2015, 08:53 AM
Stupid Has Taken Over The GOP As Ben Carson Has No Idea What The Debt Limit Is

The proof that ignorance has overtaken the Republican Party can be found in a recent interview where Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson appeared to have no clue about the debt limit.

Transcript of Carson struggling with trying to answer a debt limit question on American Public Radio’s “Marketplace:” (http://www.marketplace.org/topics/elections/full-interview-dr-ben-carson-economy)

Ryssdal:

All right, so let’s talk about debt then and the budget. As you know, Treasury Secretary Lew has come out in the last couple of days and said, “We’re gonna run out of money, we’re gonna run out of borrowing authority, on the fifth of November.” Should the Congress then and the president not raise the debt limit? Should we default on our debt?

Carson:

Let me put it this way: if I were the president, I would not sign an increased budget. Absolutely would not do it. They would have to find a place to cut.

Ryssdal:

To be clear, it’s increasing the debt limit, not the budget, but I want to make sure I understand you. You’d let the United States default rather than raise the debt limit.

Carson:

No, I would provide the kind of leadership that says, “Get on the stick guys, and stop messing around, and cut where you need to cut, because we’re not raising any spending limits, period.”

Ryssdal:

I’m gonna try one more time, sir. :lol This is debt that’s already obligated. Would you not favor increasing the debt limit to pay the debts already incurred?



Carson:

What I’m saying is what we have to do is restructure the way that we create debt. I mean if we continue along this, where does it stop? It never stops. You’re always gonna ask the same question every year. And we’re just gonna keep going down that pathway. That’s one of the things I think that the people are tired of.

Ryssdal:

I’m really trying not to be circular here, Dr. Carson, but if you’re not gonna raise the debt limit and you’re not gonna give specifics on what you’re gonna cut, then how are we going to know what you are going to do as president of the United States? :lol

Carson:

OK, let me try to explain it in a different way. If, in fact, we have a number of different areas that are contributing to the increasing expenditures and the continued expenditures that are putting us further and further into the hole. You’re familiar I’m sure with the concept of the fiscal gap.

A candidate who knew what they were talking about would have answered yes or no to this simple question. Since Ben Carson seemed to have no idea what the debt limit is, his answer turned into a stumbling expedition for an explanation.

Between Donald Trump’s lack of knowledge on everything and Carson’s lack of understanding of the issues, it is clear to see that stupid has risen to the top of the Republican Party.

A person can make a lot of money in business or be a successful brain surgeon and not be prepared to be president. Ben Carson is Donald Trump without the offensiveness and bluster.

Carson isn’t fit to be president, and to trust this man with the direction of the country would be a collective act of self-destructive irresponsibility.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/08/stupid-gop-ben-carson-idea-debt-limit.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Carson's stupidity and ignorance, same qualities in all the Repug candidates, is what makes him so attractive to his stupid, ignorant supporters,aka, The Repug Base.

DarrinS
10-08-2015, 02:56 PM
651518606786756608

Glad he thinks he's so funny. "That way we don't all up dead, hehehehe"


He's laughing at the stupidity of the question.

boutons_deux
10-09-2015, 08:48 AM
Carson says armed Jews would have 'diminished' Holocaust


http://m.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Carson-says-armed-Jews-would-have-diminished-6559763.php

ooops, his Christian Taliban racist base don't want no Jews shootin' no white supremacist Gestapo.

hater
10-09-2015, 08:53 AM
What a weird individual. It's like he wants to be out of the race :lol

Pelicans78
10-09-2015, 09:40 AM
What a weird individual. It's like he wants to be out of the race :lol

Or he's as dysfunctional as his party.

boutons_deux
10-09-2015, 10:14 AM
Ben Carson: 'PC Methodology' Is Persecuting Christians

“I don’t think most people, if they really stopped and thought about it would say, ‘I’m anti-Christian,’ but they buy into the PC methodology and hence they find themselves going with that crowd,” he said.

One way to stem the tide, he said, would be for Congress to pass legislation undermining the Supreme Court’s marriage equality decision. “I’m not an anarchist, it is the law of the land, but that doesn’t mean we can’t change it,” he said. “It doesn’t mean that there isn’t a reason that we have separation of powers and checks and balances, and clearly when one branch oversteps their boundaries, it’s time for the next one to act.”

Later in the interview, Malzberg claimed that President Obama doesn’t care about the persecution of Christians in the Middle East or terror attacks in Israel, falsely claiming (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/world/middleeast/killings-in-jerusalem-synagogue-complex.html) that the White House didn’t respond to an attack that killed three rabbis in a Jerusalem synagogue last year.

“I don’t think he’s moved by dead Christians or dead Jews,” Malzberg said, “I think he’s moved by dead Muslims and dead thugs at the hands of police.”

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ben-carson-pc-methodology-persecuting-christians

BC's PC is a VERY WIDE, LOOSE category.

boutons_deux
10-09-2015, 11:05 AM
http://images.dailykos.com/images/169111/large/Ben_Carson_ShootsColorDaikyKos.jpg?1444249173

boutons_deux
10-09-2015, 01:45 PM
Carson Says 'Progressive Movement' Thinks 'I'm An Uncle Tom'

Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson told conservative radio host Dennis Prager that racism in America is "mostly" coming from the progressive movement and its members think Carson is "an Uncle Tom," according to audio clip posted Friday by BuzzFeed (http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ben-carson-racism-in-united-states-is-mostly-with-the-progre).

“I’m not sure I agree that there isn’t a fair amount of racism here, there is, but it’s not where you would expect it to be," Carson said on the radio show. "It’s mostly with the progressive movement who will look at someone like me, and because of the color of my pigment, they decide that there’s a certain way that I’m supposed to think. And if I don’t think that way, I’m an Uncle Tom and they heap all kinds of hatred on you. That, to me, is racism."

Education can elevate you past racism, Carson said.

“Race doesn’t really keep you down in this country if you get a good education,”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-progressive-movement-racism?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

iow, BC is an Uncle Tom.

Splits
10-09-2015, 02:24 PM
:lol considering there are 48 black members of Congress and 45 of them are Dems, I'd say Ben Carson is the definition of Uncle Tom.

DarrinS
10-09-2015, 04:29 PM
:lol considering there are 48 black members of Congress and 45 of them are Dems, I'd say Ben Carson is the definition of Uncle Tom.

Not much ideological diversity among African Americans. Sad, tbh.

Splits
10-09-2015, 04:30 PM
Not much ideological diversity among African Americans. Sad, tbh.

Or, they're smart enough to not vote against their interests.

DarrinS
10-09-2015, 06:11 PM
Or, they're smart enough to not vote against their interests.

Dems run all the major cities. How's that workin out?

ChumpDumper
10-09-2015, 06:47 PM
Dems run all the major cities. How's that workin out?Eh, all the Republicans moved out and took their money when the minorities started showing up. What are you going to do?

Winehole23
10-10-2015, 02:54 AM
whine about how the damn liberals and minorities done fucked up everything.

boutons_deux
10-10-2015, 07:54 AM
America's Newest Political Curse: Ben Carson, the Neurosurgeon Who Can't Think

What does it say about higher education, that you can graduate from Yale and still believe that the devil made Darwin do it (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/ben-carson-argued-evolution-was-encouraged-satan)?

What does it say about medicine, that you can both be a gifted neurosurgeon and also declare (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/ben-carson-body-with-bullet-holes-preferable-to-gun-control-20151006), “I never saw a body with bullet holes that was more devastating than taking the right to arm ourselves away”?

when Carson, a retired Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon, denies (http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/12/politics/ben-carson-climate-change-jerry-brown/) that climate change is man-made, or calls (http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2015/09/24/ben_carson_anti_science.html) the Big Bang a fairy tale, or blames (http://www.jewishjournal.com/election2016/article/ben_carson_blames_gun_control_for_the_holocaust) gun control for the extent of the Holocaust, I think he truly believes it.

But he could not have risen to the top of his profession without learning the Second Law of Thermodynamics (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/carson-rewrites-the-laws-of-thermodynamics/) (pre-meds have to take physics), without knowing that life on earth began more than 6,000 years ago (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/ben-carsons-creationist-views-spark-controvery-over-commencement-speech/2012/05/08/gIQAi0vsBU_blog.html) (pre-meds have to take biology), without understanding the scientific method (http://theweek.com/articles/578765/how-ben-carson-both-incredibly-smart-spectacularly-stupid) (an author of more than 120 articles in peer-reviewed journals can’t make up his own rules of evidence).

Yet what does it mean to learn such things, if they don’t stop you from spouting scientific nonsense (http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/ben-carsons-scientific-ignorance)?

Participants in focus groups (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-08/bloomberg-politics-focus-groups-what-s-powering-the-ben-carson-boom) of Republican caucus and primary voters in Iowa and New Hampshire, conducted in recent days by Bloomberg’s Mark Halperin and John Heilemann, used these words to describe Carson: “deep,” “thoughtful,” “intelligent,” “smart,” “brilliant,” a “top mind.” :lol

I get this. According to a recent Public Policy Polling report (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_90115.pdf), 46 percent of Carson supporters (and 61 percent of Trump supporters) think President Obama was not born in the U.S., and 61 percent of Carson supporters (and 66 percent of Trump supporters) think the president is a Muslim.

Carson’s being called brilliant by that base ain’t baffling.

The simple yet appalling fact is that we have at least some solid evidence that a top scientific education and a distinguished career in medicine does not make a man any less capable of believing untruths to be true and truths to be false.

when Ben Carson blames a mass murderer’s victims for failing to foil him, I know of at least one man of science whose capacity for moral response has been absorbed by fictions.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/americas-newest-political-curse-ben-carson-neurosurgeon-who-cant-think

boutons_deux
10-12-2015, 02:11 PM
Aides Find Ben Carson’s Inflammatory Remarks Are Helping Him
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/us/politics/aides-find-ben-carsons-inflammatory-remarks-are-helping-him.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

DarrinS
10-12-2015, 07:07 PM
Aides Find Ben Carson’s Inflammatory Remarks Are Helping Him
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/us/politics/aides-find-ben-carsons-inflammatory-remarks-are-helping-him.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Lol, inflammatory


Two Americans attack a terrorist on a train and are heroes. Carson describes the same scenario and its "inflammatory"

Splits
10-13-2015, 10:43 AM
Lol, inflammatory


Two Americans attack a terrorist on a train and are heroes. Carson describes the same scenario and its "inflammatory"

lol you didn't read the article

boutons_deux
10-13-2015, 11:24 AM
Ben Carson's Love Affair With a "Nutjob" Conspiracy Theorist

A top GOP presidential contender has embraced the dark, paranoid, and crazy worldview of a far-right pseudohistorian

But he has provided one important clue as to his fundamental political worldview, by repeatedly endorsing a far-right conspiracy theorist named W. Cleon Skousen (http://www.motherjones.com/slideshows/2010/04/pocahontas-was-communist/moses), who wascharacterized (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/221780/romneys-radical-roots-mark-hemingway) in 2007 by the conservative National Review as an "all-around nutjob." Skousen came to prominence in the 1950s as a virulent anti-Communist crusader; he later claimed that a global cabal of bankers controlled the world from behind the scenes, and he once wrote a book that referred to the "blessings of slavery."

Carson swears by Skousen, who died in 2006. In a July 2014 interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO89G2hj2AY), Carson contended that Marxist forces had been using liberals and the mainstream media to undermine the United States. His source: Skousen. "There is a book called The Naked Communist," he said.

"It was written in 1958. Cleon Skousen lays out the whole agenda, including the importance of getting people into important positions in the mainstream media so they can help drive the agenda. Well, that's what's going on now."

Four months later, while being interviewed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Rn1K5uLzs) by Megyn Kelly on Fox News, Carson denounced unnamed Marxists who were presently seeking to destroy American society: "There was a guy who was a former CIA agent by the name of Cleon Skousen who wrote a book in 1958 called The Naked Communist, and it laid out the whole agenda.

You would think by reading it that it was written last year—showing what they're trying to do to American families, what they're trying to do to our Judeo-Christian faith, what they're doing to morality." (Skousen had been an FBI employee—not a CIA officer—and mainly engaged in administrative and clerical duties (http://www.salon.com/2009/09/16/beck_skousen/); later he was a professor at Brigham Young University and police chief of Salt Lake City.)

And the most recent edition of this Skousen book boasts Carson's endorsement on the front cover: "The Naked Communist lays out the whole progressive plan. It is unbelievable how fast it has been achieved."

Carson's repeated and full-throated endorsements of Skousen—which tend to be coupled with dire warnings about the covert scheming of Marxists and Saul Alinsky—suggest that Carson shares Skousen's belief that the civil rights movement, acceptance of homosexuality, the rise of abstract art and modernism, and the advent of Medicare, Social Security, and other safety-net programs have all been part of a clandestine plot waged by Communists or other dark forces to destroy the United States.

As Carson points out, this nefarious plotting is still in the works today.

Carson's faith in Skousen is even more unsettling because Skousen was far more than a rabid anti-commie crusader and Red-baiter. He was a complete crank (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/mitt-romney-video-wythe-glenn-beck-cleon-skousen). He maintained that the Founding Fathers were direct descendants of the Lost Tribes of Israel and contended that a global cabal of bankers controlled the world.

Carson's enthusiastic embrace of this kook, who has peddled outlandish conspiracy theories and alternative histories with taints of racism and anti-Semitism, says as much about the GOP candidate as his policy positions and his anecdotes about his inspiring life story that brought him from poverty to the pinnacle of the medical profession. In recent days, Carson, a devout Seventh-day Adventist, has taken heat for his belief (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/ben-carson-creationism-six-days) that Satan is behind the Big Bang theory and the promotion of evolution. His support of Skousen deserves as much attention. Skousen's world was dark, paranoid, and nutty. How is it that Carson found a home here?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/ben-carson-conspiracy-theory-cleon-skousen

the Repug political process vomits up garbage like BC, and you rightwingnuts suck it down as legitimate Presidential material

DarrinS
10-13-2015, 01:22 PM
lol you didn't read the article

You are correct. Didn't need to.

RandomGuy
10-14-2015, 06:58 AM
Not if Hillary wins the nomination.

The GOP is going to have an increasingly uphill battle winning the presidency.

People will weigh "emails/bengazi" against "you are a bunch of rapists and drug dealers" and "you are a bunch of thugs and welfare queens".

RandomGuy
10-14-2015, 07:01 AM
Ben Carson's Love Affair With a "Nutjob" Conspiracy Theorist

A top GOP presidential contender has embraced the dark, paranoid, and crazy worldview of a far-right pseudohistorian

But he has provided one important clue as to his fundamental political worldview, by repeatedly endorsing a far-right conspiracy theorist named W. Cleon Skousen (http://www.motherjones.com/slideshows/2010/04/pocahontas-was-communist/moses), who wascharacterized (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/221780/romneys-radical-roots-mark-hemingway) in 2007 by the conservative National Review as an "all-around nutjob." Skousen came to prominence in the 1950s as a virulent anti-Communist crusader; he later claimed that a global cabal of bankers controlled the world from behind the scenes, and he once wrote a book that referred to the "blessings of slavery."

Carson swears by Skousen, who died in 2006. In a July 2014 interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO89G2hj2AY), Carson contended that Marxist forces had been using liberals and the mainstream media to undermine the United States. His source: Skousen. "There is a book called The Naked Communist," he said.

"It was written in 1958. Cleon Skousen lays out the whole agenda, including the importance of getting people into important positions in the mainstream media so they can help drive the agenda. Well, that's what's going on now."

Four months later, while being interviewed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Rn1K5uLzs) by Megyn Kelly on Fox News, Carson denounced unnamed Marxists who were presently seeking to destroy American society: "There was a guy who was a former CIA agent by the name of Cleon Skousen who wrote a book in 1958 called The Naked Communist, and it laid out the whole agenda.

You would think by reading it that it was written last year—showing what they're trying to do to American families, what they're trying to do to our Judeo-Christian faith, what they're doing to morality." (Skousen had been an FBI employee—not a CIA officer—and mainly engaged in administrative and clerical duties (http://www.salon.com/2009/09/16/beck_skousen/); later he was a professor at Brigham Young University and police chief of Salt Lake City.)

And the most recent edition of this Skousen book boasts Carson's endorsement on the front cover: "The Naked Communist lays out the whole progressive plan. It is unbelievable how fast it has been achieved."

Carson's repeated and full-throated endorsements of Skousen—which tend to be coupled with dire warnings about the covert scheming of Marxists and Saul Alinsky—suggest that Carson shares Skousen's belief that the civil rights movement, acceptance of homosexuality, the rise of abstract art and modernism, and the advent of Medicare, Social Security, and other safety-net programs have all been part of a clandestine plot waged by Communists or other dark forces to destroy the United States.

As Carson points out, this nefarious plotting is still in the works today.

Carson's faith in Skousen is even more unsettling because Skousen was far more than a rabid anti-commie crusader and Red-baiter. He was a complete crank (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/mitt-romney-video-wythe-glenn-beck-cleon-skousen). He maintained that the Founding Fathers were direct descendants of the Lost Tribes of Israel and contended that a global cabal of bankers controlled the world.

Carson's enthusiastic embrace of this kook, who has peddled outlandish conspiracy theories and alternative histories with taints of racism and anti-Semitism, says as much about the GOP candidate as his policy positions and his anecdotes about his inspiring life story that brought him from poverty to the pinnacle of the medical profession. In recent days, Carson, a devout Seventh-day Adventist, has taken heat for his belief (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/ben-carson-creationism-six-days) that Satan is behind the Big Bang theory and the promotion of evolution. His support of Skousen deserves as much attention. Skousen's world was dark, paranoid, and nutty. How is it that Carson found a home here?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/ben-carson-conspiracy-theory-cleon-skousen

the Repug political process vomits up garbage like BC, and you rightwingnuts suck it down as legitimate Presidential material





wow. Didn't know that.

Interesting to see what conspiracy theories are being gulped down on the right these days. Nuttier and nuttier.

tlongII
10-14-2015, 07:37 PM
The GOP is going to have an increasingly uphill battle winning the presidency.

People will weigh "emails/bengazi" against "you are a bunch of rapists and drug dealers" and "you are a bunch of thugs and welfare queens".

Hillary is a liar. I think most Americans realize this. That will be a problem for her.

RandomGuy
10-14-2015, 08:52 PM
Hillary is a liar. I think most Americans realize this. That will be a problem for her.

Heh, never stopped anyone from running for president.

Which do you want a liar or a crazy person?

mmmm shit sandwich or douchebag....

DarrinS
10-14-2015, 09:11 PM
Heh, never stopped anyone from running for president.

Which do you want a liar or a crazy person?

mmmm shit sandwich or douchebag....


I think Bernie sound like a nutjob.

boutons_deux
10-15-2015, 04:54 AM
I think Bernie sound like a nutjob.

.. says a Trump, Carson, Palin supporter

DarrinS
10-15-2015, 06:58 AM
.. says a Trump, Carson, Palin supporter

I like Rubio and Fiorina, actually

pgardn
10-15-2015, 07:00 AM
I like Rubio and Fiorina, actually

What do you think of Carson?

boutons_deux
10-15-2015, 08:17 AM
I like Rubio and Fiorina, actually

Fiorina is your nutjob, Rubio wants to enrich the 1% fantastically (no tax on investment income, etc)

RandomGuy
10-15-2015, 11:35 AM
I think Bernie sound like a nutjob.

He is quite liberal. It wouldn't surprise me you think so.

Anything you find particularly nutty?

boutons_deux
10-16-2015, 06:13 AM
Ben Carson, a grifter on the wingnut welfare circuit: How he just gave away the act

Carson will instead step off the trail to spend a couple of weeks on a book tour supporting “A More Perfect Union (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591848040?keywords=a%20more%20perfect%20union&qid=1444934958&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1),“his just-released guide to interpreting the Constitution for people who think Ben Carson ever knows what he’s talking about.

The reaction (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/425632/isnt-normal-ben-carson-suspends-campaign-book-tour-jim-geraghty) on the right (https://twitter.com/LizMair/status/654489756890460160) has been one of utter befuddlement (https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/654673194020769794). A candidate does not take time off from the Bataan Death March that is a modern presidential campaign just to read a few pages of his book to a bunch of elderly wingnuts in the back corner of the Hackensack Barnes and Noble. Especially not when he is in second place in the polls, nearly even with the frontrunner and far ahead of the rest of the pack. And he got there with hardly doing any traditional campaigning. Why stop now?

The shock would be a lot easier to take seriously if

a) Ben Carson had not already shown himself to have a grasp of reality best described as “tenuous (http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/the_7_most_impressively_stupid_things_ben_carson_h as_said_partner/)” and

b) if there was not a whole conservative ecosystem of publishers, TV and radio producers, think tanks, con artists and assorted other flimflammers all dedicated to making conservative politicians and media figures rich(er) through a combination of generous funding by wealthy benefactors and sucking money out of the pockets of rubes inclined to buy mail-order survival seeds as a hedge against the imminent Communist takeover of America, all because Fox News told them Obama is coming to steal their guns.

It’s a perpetual motion machine of grift (http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2015/01/the-conservative-grifter-problem.html). Ben Carson is simply cashing in.

Historian Rick Perlstein traced the history of the right wing’s money-making cons (http://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-long-con) in a 2012 essay in The Baffler. After describing the product pitches he was inundated with by conservative publications after he subscribed to their email lists, Perlstein said this:

[T]his stuff is as important to understanding the conservative ascendancy as are the internecine organizational and ideological struggles that make up its official history—if not, indeed, more so. The strategic alliance of snake-oil vendors and conservative true believers points up evidence of another successful long march, of tactics designed to corral fleeceable multitudes all in one place—and the formation of a cast of mind that makes it hard for either them or us to discern where the ideological con ended and the money con began.


One need only look at the Republican candidates from the last two election cycles to see the cycle of grift at work.

There was Ron Paul and his newsletters promising to show you how to put all your money in gold (http://www.bradford-delong.com/2014/04/grand-political-grifters-gotta-grift-five-examples-live-from-the-roasterie-cxli-april-25-2014.html#redstate) in advance of a worldwide economic collapse that never seems to arrive.
(But please don’t cancel that subscription!)

There was Mike Huckabee, recently busted for hawking a cinnamon-based cure for diabetes (http://www.salon.com/2015/03/16/we_cant_believe_we_have_to_explain_this_diabetes_c ant_be_cured_with_cinnamon_rolls/) to the elderly diabetes-prone conservative base, using his 2008 campaign to land a talk show on the Fox News channel.

There was the grandmamma of them all, Sarah Palin, who famously quit the governor’s mansion in Alaska after running for vice president in 2008 because she could make way more money babbling on Fox News occasionally, selling books defending that oft-endangered celebration of Christmas (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062292889?keywords=sarah%20palin&qid=1444943877&ref_=sr_1_5&s=books&sr=1-5), and starring in reality shows.

No matter how many times it happens, I never fail to be gobsmacked by how gobsmacked Republicans are when one of their own presidential candidates turns out to be a huckster shilling a get-rich-quick scheme or a miracle cure for diabetes or a fanciful interpretation of the Constitution that gives Cleon Skousen’s corpse a stiffy (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/ben-carson-conspiracy-theory-cleon-skousen).

It is as if conservative media figures and political operatives (http://www.redstate.com/2014/12/22/the-latest-tea-party-scam-called-from-202-750-2399/) do not read their ownpublications (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/01/28/reagans-secret-cancer-cure-and-other-scams-from/202285).

Aside from showing up at the debates and sitting for interviews, Carson has done very little campaigning. He has not had to put forth much in the way of serious, detailed policy proposals, and he is still polling around 20 percent (the next-closest candidate in most polls, Marco Rubio, is hovering around 10 percent).

Why shouldn’t he take advantage of his newly-raised media profile to sell his book and maybe dredge up some interest in his entire literary back catalog?

The more books he sells, the more he can raise his speaking fees after the campaign by promoting himself as a best-selling author. The more speeches he gets highly paid to give, the more talk radio and Fox News see him as a valuable commodity to bring on as a pundit or even to give him his own show. Sure, he is already wealthy from his successful career as a neurosurgeon, but isn’t the essence of the capitalist system that conservatives revere to make as much money as you possibly can?

Conservatives are supposed to hate the government and love the free market.

Then they turn on their candidates who prize enriching themselves over actual governing.

The irony is significantly more delicious than a barrel full of survival seeds.

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/16/ben_carson_a_grifter_on_the_wingnut_welfare_circui t_how_he_just_gave_away_the_act/

excellent idea, Repugs as the party of grifters duping you rightwingnut assholes for personal profit. :lol

It's really :lol :lol :lol to see you rightwingnuts sucking up to Trump (pushing his brand), Carson (pushing his brand), Fiorina (botox endorser), pitbull bitch and to all the other Klown Kar riders.

boutons_deux
10-19-2015, 11:43 AM
Ben Carson: If Only We’d Drilled Baby Drilled, We Coulda Caught Osama Bin Laden

"Declare that within five to 10 years, we will become petroleum independent.

The moderate Arab states would have been so concerned about that, they would have turned over Osama bin Laden and anybody else you wanted on a silver platter within two weeks."

http://wonkette.com/595067/ben-carson-if-only-wed-drilled-baby-drilled-we-coulda-caught-osama-bin-laden

boutons_deux
10-21-2015, 05:52 AM
From someone who was a med student at Johns-Hopkins when Carson was playing God there

Ben Carson’s chilling God complex: The commencement speech I won’t soon forget

Retired neurosurgeon and Republican presidential hopeful Dr. Ben Carson is all over the news these days. His recent public comments have ranged from the offensive to the bizarre:

from his assertion (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/06/ben-carson-says-he-would-have-been-more-aggressive-against-oregon-gunman/?_r=0) that he would have tackled the Oregon college gunman to the discovery that he once“bravely redirected” (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/10/ben-carson-once-redirected-gunman.html) an armed robber he encountered in a Baltimore Popeyes.

And how can we forget his infamous comments about how a Muslim shouldn’t be President (http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/27/politics/ben-carson-muslim-president-sharia-law/index.html) or

how Jews could have stopped the Holocaust (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/08/politics/ben-carson-gun-control-2016-election/index.html) had they only been armed?

His statements are so increasingly preposterous that it’s hard to distinguish a satirical headline from a real one (like this hilarious Andy Borowitz report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/ben-carson-pompeii-victims-should-have-outrun-lava), “Ben Carson: Pompeii Victims Should Have Outrun Lava,” which many on social media thought was real).

In the public consciousness, Ben Carson used to be the grape jelly to Donald Trump’s chock-full-of-nutty peanut butter.

He was the seemingly mild-mannered straight man to Trump’s loud-mouthed crassness.

Yet he’s gone so far off the rails these days as to appear borderline unhinged, certainly out of touch with reality (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/ben-carson-just-cant-help-himself?cid=sm_fb_maddow).

Ben Carson is, in the words of another genius Andy Borowitz report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/ben-carson-shattering-stereotype-about-brain-surgeons-being-smart), single-handedly shattering the stereotype that brain surgeons are smart.

...

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/21/ben_carsons_dangerous_god_complex_the_commencement _speech_i_wont_soon_forget_partner/

boutons_deux
10-22-2015, 04:52 AM
the grifter makes women cry? :lol

AUDIE CORNISH, HOST:
Neurosurgeon Ben Carson is running for president, and he's also selling his new book.

And as NPR's Sam Sanders reports, sometimes the line between book tour and campaign gets a little blurry.

SAM SANDERS, BYLINE: The mood at Ben Carson's book tour events has been something in between a church revival and a rock concert, with reactions like these from Addy Earhart (ph).

ADDY EARHART: I was shaken.

SANDERS: You were shaken.

EARHART: Yeah.

SANDERS: Why were you shaken?

EARHART: I was just so nervous.

SANDERS: She was like a teenage fan meeting a Taylor Swift or a One Direction. At every event, there are attempts at weird quick hugs, selfies taken before handlers quickly push fans away and tears, like from Kathy Yosten.

KATHY YOSTEN: I love that man. He's wonderful. He's calm. He's intelligent. I see a goodness in his eyes. He makes me feel safe.

SANDERS: You're tearing up right now. He means a lot to you.

YOSTEN: Yes, he does.

SANDERS: Also declarations like this from Beverly Belew in Fort Worth.

BEVERLY BELEW: Oh, my heart was racing just to see his face, to walk up there and his smile. He smiled at me, and he said, welcome. And I said, I love you, Dr. Carson (laughter).

SANDERS: And what did he say back?

BELEW: And he said thank you.

SANDERS: The rockstar nature of adoration at these events even extends to Dr. Carson's wife, Candy. At a bookstore in Waco, I heard a woman come up behind me and say this.

SHERRY BAKER: Oh, my God, she was in the bathroom - Ms. Carson.

SANDERS: Who was in the bathroom?

BAKER: Ms. Carson, Ms. Carson.

SANDERS: You got a picture with Ms. Carson in the bathroom.

BAKER: (Laughter). I did.

SANDERS: That was Sherry Baker proudly showing off a selfie she had just taken with Carson's wife. She had cornered her in the women's restroom.

http://www.npr.org/2015/10/21/450611700/ben-carson-book-tour-blurs-the-line-between-business-and-politics

boutons_deux
10-22-2015, 10:47 AM
Ben Carson Wants To Monitor, Defund Colleges With 'Extreme Political Bias

Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson wants to use the Department of Education to find colleges and universities with political bias in order to deny them funding.

During an interview on "The Blaze," Glenn Beck asked Carson if he would like to abolish the Department of Education, like many conservatives (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/14/us-usa-politics-randpaul-idUSKBN0KN2O020150114).

"I actually have something I would use the Department of Education to do," Carson said in response. "It would be to monitor our institutions of higher education for extreme political bias and deny funding if it exists."

The Republican presidential candidate's proposed crusade against bias on campus was not popular with all conservatives.

A writer for the site Hot Air (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/10/22/ben-carson-lets-have-the-department-of-education-go-after-extreme-political-bias/) described Carson's idea as "awful" and "repugnant."

Conservatives have criticized students for pressuring (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/04/nyregion/rice-backs-out-of-rutgers-speech-after-student-protests.html) conservatives to back out of speeches, and President Obama (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obama-college-students-coddled) recently joined the calls for colleges not to protect students from differing points of view.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-colleges-extreme-political-bias?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

ElNono
10-22-2015, 07:14 PM
Dr. Ben Carson's prescription: Abolish Medicare
The GOP frontrunner in the latest Iowa poll would replace Medicare and Medicaid with savings accounts.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/ben-carson-medicare-medicaid-215055


:lol does these guys have learned nothing from 2012?

Splits
10-22-2015, 09:00 PM
:lmao words put together make sentences and all, but how in the fuck did this guy perform child brain surgery?


“I’d prefer not to talk about security issues but I have recognized — and people have been telling me for many many months — that I’m in great danger, because I challenge the secular progressive movement to the very core,” Carson told WABC radio’s Rita Cosby Show on Thursday. “You know, they see me as an existential threat but I also believe in the good lord and we take reasonable precautions.”

boutons_deux
10-23-2015, 12:10 PM
Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery and Hitler’s gun control caused the Holocaust: The bizarro world of Iowa Republicans propelling Ben Carson’s surge

However, in Iowa — at least with Republicans in the Hawkeye state — there’s is nothing ridiculous about that comparison at all.

57 percent of Iowa Republicans said they found Carson’s comparison of Obamacare to slavery “very attractive,” with another 24 percent finding it “mostly attractive.”

His historical inaccurate statement following the Oregon community college shooting that Hitler might not have been as successful if the Jews had been armed is supported by 77 percent of Iowa Republicans.

73 percent support Carson’s call for a religious test for office excluding a Muslim from the presidency.

According to Bloomberg, these are “likely Republican caucus participants,” including Evangelical Christians who make up 42 percent of participants in the poll.

The poll also asked Iowa Republicans how they felt about Carson’s past research on tissue from aborted fetuses and 48 percent of respondents were turned off by that fact while another 21 percent indicated they were not sure.

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/23/obamacare_is_the_worst_thing_since_slavery_and_hit lers_gun_control_caused_the_holocaust_the_bizarro_ world_of_iowa_republicans_propelling_ben_carsons_s urge/

boutons_deux
10-23-2015, 02:49 PM
Carson, Oct. 18 (2:11 mark):"As you know, 9 out of 10 nonprofits fail."The NCCS says that (http://nccsweb.urban.org/knowledgebase/detail.php?linkID=174&category=118&xrefID=3269&close=0) it’s difficult to accurately determine deaths of nonprofits from the IRS Business Master File of Exempt Organizations (https://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Exempt-Organizations-Business-Master-File-Extract-EO-BMF), the source of its data, because of limitations.


NCCS: IRS lists of registered nonprofit organizations and Form 990 filers are a useful starting point for exploring the issue but have significant limitations.

One limitation is that one cannot know what happened to an organization that stops filing with the IRS. It might have died, but it might have successfully merged with another organization, been acquired by one, or transformed into a government agency, church, private foundation, business, or other entity that is not required to file the 990. Alternatively, the organization might have gotten small enough (less than $25,000 in gross receipts) that it was not required to file.

A second limitation is that the 990 is mostly a financial reporting document, so there isn’t going to be any indication of many of the things (like access to legal services and education) that we might hypothesize are related to an organization’s survival chances.

Not knowing what happened to an organization that disappears heightens the problem of equating disappearance with “failure.” Some nonprofits close when they fulfill a mission that they set out to accomplish, so it succeeded rather than failed.


So, do “9 out of 10 nonprofits fail”? We didn’t find evidence of that. The best data we could find from an authoritative source on nonprofits don’t support that claim.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/ben-carson-on-nonprofit-failures/

pgardn
10-23-2015, 04:37 PM
Trump should actually be having a field day with this guy.

Imo, if he was white, it would be total Annihilation. This guy is an absolute fruit bat. And he messed with people's heads... No one on the Republican side has said anything nuttier than this dude.

Nbadan
10-24-2015, 11:43 PM
R
epublican presidential candidate and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson claimed he is in “great danger” -- and in need of Secret Service protection -- because a “secular progressive movement” opposes him, BuzzFeed reported Thursday. While some media reports claimed Carson was close to being approved for Secret Service protection, the Washington Post cited an official who said the Department of Homeland Security was still debating the matter.

“I’d prefer not to talk about security issues, but I have recognized -- and people have been telling me for many, many months -- that I’m in great danger because I challenge the secular progressive movement to the very core,” Carson said on WABC radio’s "Rita Cosby Show" on Thursday, BuzzFeed reported. “You know, they see me as an existential threat, but I also believe in the good Lord and we take reasonable precautions.”

Carson said the threats against him are serious, which is why the Secret Service is considering protecting him. He denied Monday that his campaign had requested protection, and that the FBI and Secret Service had approached him about possible protection.

But according to ABC News, the Department of Homeland Security received official requests for Secret Service protection from Carson and his rival candidate -- and current GOP front-runner -- Donald Trump earlier this week. Candidates who are front-runners in a presidential race typically request protection at this point in the campaign process, ABC reported. House Speaker John Boehner, Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Sen. Mitch McConnell and Sen. Harry Reid will have to approve the candidates’ requests before they are granted.

http://www.ibtimes.com/ben-carson-possible-secret-service-protection-im-great-danger-2153392

:lol Progressive assassins....rich...

Cry Havoc
10-24-2015, 11:47 PM
R

http://www.ibtimes.com/ben-carson-possible-secret-service-protection-im-great-danger-2153392

:lol Progressive assassins....rich...

I can't decide if he actually needs to be monitored for insanity (paranoid schizophrenia) or he's just attempting to terrify his base into thinking, "THUR AFTUR OUR JAYSUS PEOPLE BEST GIT DOWN 2 VOTIN'!"

Nbadan
10-24-2015, 11:53 PM
I've read Carson's books...he's not cooky .....but he's also no politician...

Nbadan
10-25-2015, 12:19 AM
TYT: The Disturbing Reason Ben Carson Is Winning In Iowa



“Iowa Republicans do more than endure fringe candidates—they embrace them. In Iowa, factional candidates excel and extremists find ground to run. In 1988, Pat Robertson took a strong second in the Iowa caucuses. In 1996, another Pat—Pat Buchanan—came close to toppling Bob Dole. In 2008, Mike Huckabee won the contest, and in 2012, Rick Santorum won a slim victory over Mitt Romney. And ahead of the 2016 Republican presidential contest, Iowa Republicans are poised to give their votes to retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson.

According to the latest poll from Bloomberg Politics and the Des Moines Register, Carson is ahead of the pack with 28 percent of the vote. But more interesting are the facts behind his rise. Iowans aren’t just charmed by his demeanor, his experience, and his in experience as a politician and policymaker—although that’s definitely true—they also support his most controversial, and entirely ludicrous, ideas.”*

Read more here: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/10/iowa_republicans_love_ben_carson_the_state_s_conse rvative_caucus_goers_have.html

boutons_deux
10-25-2015, 07:56 AM
I've read Carson's books...he's not cooky .....but he's also no politician...

Carson is a 7th Day Adventist Mormon, a fucked up Christian Taliban, a Christian Supremacist, iow, extremely cooky grifter, running to stroke his ego and fill his bank account.

I apply a "religious test" to keep that mofo out of elected office, although red-state Christian Taliban would probably elect him to state-wide office.

boutons_deux
10-25-2015, 04:12 PM
Ben Carson opposes abortion for rape victims while comparing them to ‘slave owners’

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson said on Sunday that believes Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and that women should not be allowed to have abortions even in the case of rape or incest.

“Think about this. During slavery — and I know that one of those words you’re not supposed to say — but I’m saying it,” Carson said. “During slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought they had the right to do whatever they wanted to that slave, anything that they chose to do. And what if the abolitionists had said, ‘You know, I don’t believe in slavery, I think it’s wrong. But you guys do whatever you want to do.’ Where would we be?”

When it came to the rights of women, Carson insisted that they should not have the legal choice to terminate unwanted pregnancies.

“I’m a reasonable person,” :lol :lol :lol :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/ben-carson-opposes-abortion-for-rape-victims/

ducks
10-25-2015, 11:02 PM
I've read Carson's books...he's not cooky .....but he's also no politician...

That is why he is doing well

DarrinS
10-26-2015, 08:50 AM
I've read Carson's books...he's not cooky .....but he's also no politician...

Really? Which ones did you read?

DMX7
10-26-2015, 09:16 PM
Ben Carson tried to stab someone when he was 14 years old.

You really want to give the nuclear launch codes to a guy who tried to kill someone?

That's disturbing and disqualifying if you ask me.

He is also a 7th Day Adventist, and I don't know about 7th Day Adventist. I know about presbyterian, but I don't know about 7th Day Adventist.

Nbadan
10-26-2015, 11:08 PM
Really? Which ones did you read?

America the beautiful....the whole book too not the 15 minute edition...

boutons_deux
10-27-2015, 05:31 AM
buy and read Carson's books? :lol

The guy is a freak, a soft-speaking con man and grifter, as much of a grifter as Palin and so many other Repugs.

Taking time off his campaign to sell books? :lol

Looks like he'll win Iowa, but Santorum also won Iowa. Iowa Repugs are an ignorant, freaky, fringe bunch.

DMX7
10-27-2015, 10:39 AM
Iowa doesn't mean anything anymore.

Quetzal-X
10-27-2015, 01:38 PM
the grifter makes women cry? :lol

AUDIE CORNISH, HOST:
Neurosurgeon Ben Carson is running for president, and he's also selling his new book.


Paid staged Whore Plant a' la trump or typical repug nutter.
And as NPR's Sam Sanders reports, sometimes the line between book tour and campaign gets a little blurry.

SAM SANDERS, BYLINE: The mood at Ben Carson's book tour events has been something in between a church revival and a rock concert, with reactions like these from Addy Earhart (ph).

ADDY EARHART: I was shaken.

SANDERS: You were shaken.

EARHART: Yeah.

SANDERS: Why were you shaken?

EARHART: I was just so nervous.

SANDERS: She was like a teenage fan meeting a Taylor Swift or a One Direction. At every event, there are attempts at weird quick hugs, selfies taken before handlers quickly push fans away and tears, like from Kathy Yosten.

KATHY YOSTEN: I love that man. He's wonderful. He's calm. He's intelligent. I see a goodness in his eyes. He makes me feel safe.

SANDERS: You're tearing up right now. He means a lot to you.

YOSTEN: Yes, he does.

SANDERS: Also declarations like this from Beverly Belew in Fort Worth.

BEVERLY BELEW: Oh, my heart was racing just to see his face, to walk up there and his smile. He smiled at me, and he said, welcome. And I said, I love you, Dr. Carson (laughter).

SANDERS: And what did he say back?

BELEW: And he said thank you.

SANDERS: The rockstar nature of adoration at these events even extends to Dr. Carson's wife, Candy. At a bookstore in Waco, I heard a woman come up behind me and say this.

SHERRY BAKER: Oh, my God, she was in the bathroom - Ms. Carson.

SANDERS: Who was in the bathroom?

BAKER: Ms. Carson, Ms. Carson.

SANDERS: You got a picture with Ms. Carson in the bathroom.

BAKER: (Laughter). I did.

SANDERS: That was Sherry Baker proudly showing off a selfie she had just taken with Carson's wife. She had cornered her in the women's restroom.

http://www.npr.org/2015/10/21/450611700/ben-carson-book-tour-blurs-the-line-between-business-and-politics

TheGreatYacht
10-27-2015, 07:09 PM
You hear that? It's not Clipper Nation's vibrator. It's Trump's poll numbers crumbling down

boutons_deux
10-28-2015, 09:39 AM
Ben Carson might be lying about stabbing people and getting robbed — but why?

Everybody knows politicians lie sometimes — but we usually assume they’re being dishonest to make themselves look better.So who knows what the hell Ben Carson is trying to accomplish by claiming he tried tostab a guy, attacked people with hammers (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/ben-carson-says-as-volatile-teen-he-went-after-people-with-hammers-and-tried-to-stab-someone/) or sent an armed robber after a fast food cashier (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/ben-carson-i-got-held-up-once-at-popeyes-but-i-told-the-gunman-to-rob-an-employee-instead/)?

The Republican presidential candidate and retired neurosurgeon responded to frontrunner Donald Trump’s jibes about his somnolent personality by recounting his days as a “volatile” and violent teenager.

“As a teenager, I would go after people with rocks, and bricks, and baseball bats, and hammers,” Carson said. “And, of course, many people know the story when I was 14 and I tried to stab someone. And, you know, fortunately … my life has been changed. And I’m a very different person now.”

However, the details about that stabbing attempt keep changing in the 20 years Carson has been telling the story, reported The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/27/carson-stabbing-story-full-of-holes.html?via=twitter_page).

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/ben-carson-might-be-lying-about-stabbing-people-and-getting-robbed-but-why/

boutons_deux
10-28-2015, 12:55 PM
Ben Carson's Budget Plan Makes Absolutely No Sense

While Carson's string of bigoted and head-scratching statements have received the most attention from the media, his fiscal plan deserve scrutiny, as it relies on pure fantasy. His policies include:



Amending the U.S. Constitution with a Balanced Budget Amendment (https://www.bencarson.com/issues/balanced-budget-amendment)
Refusing to ever raise the debt ceiling (http://thehill.com/policy/finance/258211-carson-i-wont-raise-the-debt-ceiling-as-president)
Establishing a flat 10 percent rate (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/11/presidential-hopeful-ben-carson-bases-10-tax-plan-on-biblical-tithing) that he said was inspired by the Bible
Ordering cuts of 3 to 4 percent (http://www.marketplace.org/topics/elections/full-interview-dr-ben-carson-economy) across federal departments, except defense (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ben-carson-cutting-defense-spending-is-idiotic/article/2564972)


Essentially, Carson plans to dramatically reduce revenues with huge tax cuts for high earners (while raising taxes (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-11/what-ben-carson-s-flat-tax-would-do-to-the-poor) on the 47 percent of people who — while responsible for paying other forms of taxes (http://taxvox.taxpolicycenter.org/2010/04/15/about-those-47-percent-who-pay-%E2%80%9Cno-taxes-%E2%80%9D/)— do not owe federal income taxes), approve some spending cuts while reversing the current dip in defense spending (http://www.cfr.org/defense-budget/trends-us-military-spending/p28855), and then magically balance the budget by the end of his first term (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/carson-freeze-federal-spending-hiring-for-4-years-to-balance-budget/article/2572921)all the while running the risk of creating a global financial crisis (http://www.cnbc.com/2013/10/02/blankfein-urges-congress-not-to-use-debt-ceiling-as-a-cudgel-after-ceo-meeting-with-president-obama.html?__source=mnd%7Cnews%7C&par=mnd)due to his refusal to raise the debt limit.

As Tim Worstall of the conservative Adam Smith Institute wrote (http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/05/10/flat-taxes-are-a-nice-idea-but-ben-carsons-version-simply-doesnt-add-up/) in Forbes, Carson's plan flies in the face of "the simplest of logic and mental arithmetic."

The watchdog group Citizens for Tax Justice ran the numbers (http://www.taxjusticeblog.org/archive/2015/09/ben_carsons_10_percent_flat_ta.php#.VjAzsmSrS-V) on Carson's Bible-based 10 percent flat tax, and the results were striking. The group found that his proposal "would yield tax revenues of only $1.1 trillion." Compare that to the country's current budget outlook, where the government expects to take in approximately $3.5 trillion in tax revenue and spend around $4 trillion. Carson's proposal would cover just over a quarter of current spending levels.

However, Carson has not revealed where he would find trillions of dollars in cuts to balance the budget, which he would require himself to do through the Balanced Budget Amendment. Instead, Carson would balloon the deficit, which this year sunk to $435 billion (http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2015/10/07/congressional-budget-office-budget-deficit-drops-to-435b), by $3 trillion.

Carson insists (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/carson-freeze-federal-spending-hiring-for-4-years-to-balance-budget/article/2572921) on the stump that a freeze on federal spending will balance the budget in just four years:

"We don't raise it one penny for three or four years and the budget will be balanced, just like that." :lol

But he offers no realistic plan to make up for the massive revenue shortfall resulting from his biblical tax policy.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ben-carsons-budget-plan-makes-absolutely-no-sense

boutons_deux
10-29-2015, 05:30 AM
Colbert on Carson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb5Q_YBDLlc

boutons_deux
10-29-2015, 09:48 AM
Ben Carson Denies Involvement With the Nutritional Supplement Company He Was Involved With For Years (http://gawker.com/ben-carson-denies-involvement-with-nutritional-suppleme-1739310975)

Over the last ten years, Ben Carson has given speeches for Mannatech, a sketchy nutritional supplement company that does not, surprisingly, produce actual snake oil.

He’s appeared in infomercials.

He admits the company helped fund his endowed chair (https://twitter.com/Maddie_Marshall/status/659539883736891398) at Johns Hopkins.

He even endorsed their product during the GOP debate Wednesday.

But one thing he denies? Having “any kind of relationship with them.” Huh?

The question came up midway through the GOP debate, when Carl Quintanilla asked if Carson’s judgment should be questioned in light of his involvement with the company—an allegation Carson categorically denied, unironically terming it “total propaganda.”

Quintanilla: There’s a company called Mannatech, a maker of nutritional supplements, with which you had a ten-year relationship. They offered claims that they could cure autism, cancer. They paid $7 million dollars to settle a deceptive marketing lawsuit in Texas, and yet your involvement continued. Why?

Carson: Well, it’s easy to answer. I didn’t have an involvement with them. That is total propaganda and this is what happens in our society. Total propaganda. I did a couple of speeches for them, I did speeches for other people, they were paid speeches, it is absolutely absurd to say that I had any kind of relationship with them. Do I take the product? Yes. I think it’s a good product.


This is... untrue. Carson, the Wall Street Journal pointed out earlier this month (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/10/08/a-mystery-in-ben-carsons-ties-with-supplement-maker-mannatech/), has often made reference to a long and lucrative association with the company that he says has been good for both his career and his health.

http://gawker.com/ben-carson-denies-involvement-with-nutritional-suppleme-1739310975

Cry Havoc
10-29-2015, 12:15 PM
How do you do speeches and get paid by someone you have no relationship with? The exchange of monies for a service is the fucking definition of a relationship.

boutons_deux
10-29-2015, 01:29 PM
How do you do speeches and get paid by someone you have no relationship with? The exchange of monies for a service is the fucking definition of a relationship.

you doo doo speeches in Repug alternate reality.

boutons_deux
10-29-2015, 03:19 PM
Ben Carson Unveils a Bold Plan to Combat Rising Sea Levels


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Dr. Ben Carson
✔@RealBenCarson (https://twitter.com/RealBenCarson)

It is important to remember that amateurs built the Ark and it was the professionals that built the Titanic. @my_ccu (https://twitter.com/my_ccu)
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If nothing else, it's good to see Carson has a plan to cope with rising sea levels

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/10/wow-ben-carson-just-destroyed-liberal-haters-some-sweet-bible-knowledge

DMX7
10-29-2015, 04:20 PM
How do you do speeches and get paid by someone you have no relationship with? The exchange of monies for a service is the fucking definition of a relationship.

How does he not get called out for this shit by the mainstream media???

boutons_deux
10-29-2015, 04:36 PM
...

101A
10-29-2015, 08:20 PM
Ben Carson opposes abortion for rape victims while comparing them to ‘slave owners’

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson said on Sunday that believes Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and that women should not be allowed to have abortions even in the case of rape or incest.

“Think about this. During slavery — and I know that one of those words you’re not supposed to say — but I’m saying it,” Carson said. “During slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought they had the right to do whatever they wanted to that slave, anything that they chose to do. And what if the abolitionists had said, ‘You know, I don’t believe in slavery, I think it’s wrong. But you guys do whatever you want to do.’ Where would we be?”

When it came to the rights of women, Carson insisted that they should not have the legal choice to terminate unwanted pregnancies.

“I’m a reasonable person,” :lol :lol :lol :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/ben-carson-opposes-abortion-for-rape-victims/



Carson's a Young Earther, so he's an idiot.

However, if one is going to be "Pro-Life", the only intellectually honest positions, if your assertion and belief is that the fetus is protected human life, is that ALL abortions must be outlawed. If the fetus is, it is protected. Any other position necessarily devalues that life, and thus, your position.

boutons_deux
10-30-2015, 11:39 AM
Jonah Goldberg’s whitesplainin’ again: Ben Carson “more authentically African-American than Barack Obama”

What would the black community do without white conservatives to tell them who really belongs to it?

Writing about a discussion of Carson’s appeal on Tuesday’s edition of “Morning Joe,” Goldberg lamented that “at no point in this conversation did anyone call attention to the fact that Carson is an African-American.” Why is it “so intriguingly rare to hear people talk about the fact that he’s black”? According to Goldberg, for liberals it’s because doing so would call attention to how black President Barack Obama isn’t.

Hiding behind the phrase “[o]ne could argue” — that’s exactly what he’s doing, after all — Goldberg argues that Carson is “even more authentically African-American than Barack Obama, given that Obama’s mother was white and he was raised in part by his white grandparents.”

For Goldberg, Carson is “more authentically African-American” because he “grew up in Detroit, the son of a very poor, very hard-working single mother.” Praising black single-motherhood is well outside Goldberg’s wheelhouse (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/333831/obama-needs-family-plan-jonah-goldberg), but kudos on him for trying, even if it was only to score cheap political points against the black community for turning against Carson when “he became a Republican politician.”

“[T]hat probably explains why his race seems to be such a non-issue for the media,” the nationally syndicated columnist wrote in an article about Carson’s race. But he’s talking about other members of the media, for whom “the race card is just too valuable politically and psychologically.”

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/30/jonah_goldberg_ben_carson_more_authentically_afric an_american_than_barack_obama/

JG proves that, like all blacks don't have big dicks, all Jews aren't intelligent and liberal.

Blake
10-30-2015, 12:19 PM
America's Newest Political Curse: Ben Carson, the Neurosurgeon Who Can't Think

[SIZE=3][FONT=arial]What does it say about higher education, that you can graduate from Yale and still believe that the devil made Darwin do it (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/ben-carson-argued-evolution-was-encouraged-satan)?

What does it say about medicine, that you can both be a gifted neurosurgeon and also declare (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/ben-carson-body-with-bullet-holes-preferable-to-gun-control-20151006)[COLOR=#000000], “I never saw a body with bullet holes that was more devastating than taking the right to arm ourselves away”?


Wild Cobra, would you be afraid to let Carson operate on you? Just curious

DarrinS
10-30-2015, 12:35 PM
Wild Cobra, would you be afraid to let Carson operate on you? Just curious

You probably would be.

DMX7
10-30-2015, 12:48 PM
You probably would be.

I might be but not because of the color of his skin. I don't see race.

boutons_deux
10-30-2015, 01:23 PM
Ben Carson: Bible Proves He’s Ready To Be President Of Noah’s Ark

This nation, believe me, was designed for We The People, and around We The People, not We the Government …

Citizen-statesmen, not career politicians, that’s what it was designed for.

And I love it when people come up to me and say, “But-bu-bu-bu-but you’ve never been elected to any public office! You can’t possibly know how to do anything!”

So let me tell you something: The Ark was built by amateurs; the Titanic was built by professionals! [laughter, applause]

http://wonkette.com/595467/ben-carson-bible-proves-hes-ready-to-be-president-of-noahs-ark

Blake
10-30-2015, 01:27 PM
You probably would be.

Yes but not because I'm terrified of black surgeons

DarrinS
10-30-2015, 01:29 PM
Yes but not because I'm terrified of black surgeons

Oh, it's your other bigotry. The kind that's okay.

Blake
10-30-2015, 01:58 PM
Oh, it's your other bigotry. The kind that's okay.

I think he's an idiot. That's all.

I think you're an idiot too.

DarrinS
10-30-2015, 02:54 PM
I think he's an idiot. That's all.

I think you're an idiot too.

Nah, you just don't like his religious beliefs.

Blake
10-30-2015, 03:46 PM
Nah, you just don't like his religious beliefs.

there are some fine Christan surgeons out there. I don't really care as long as they're good at what they do.

Carson being so ridiculously stupid concerns me as a voter and would concern me as a patient.

I think you're ridiculously stupid too.

DarrinS
10-30-2015, 05:50 PM
there are some fine Christan surgeons out there. I don't really care as long as they're good at what they do.


That's all that matters.




I think you're ridiculously stupid too.


I'm soo wounded. How will I go on?

Blake
10-30-2015, 11:03 PM
That's all that matters.

no shit.



I'm soo wounded. How will I go on?

I'm sure you'll find a way to post more stupid posts.

boutons_deux
11-03-2015, 09:40 PM
Ben Carson on Americans: "Many of Them Are Stupid."

Watch the GOP frontrunner dismiss a big chunk of We the People.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/11/in-speech-ben-carson-says-many-americans-are-stupid

and all them supporting Carson ARE stupid

boutons_deux
11-04-2015, 05:37 AM
The Joke About Mrs. Ben Carson’s Appearance Is No Laughing Matter


http://www.theroot.com/content/dam/theroot/articles/culture/2015/09/the_joke_about_mrs_ben_carson_s_appearance_is_no_l aughing_matter/mrscarsoncrop.png.CROP.rtstoryvar-large.png
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2015/09/the_joke_about_mrs_ben_carson_s_appearance_is_no_l aughing_matter.html?wpisrc=ck_taboola

Benny's $Ms can't buy his wife nice threads?

I remember when Pappy Bush was elected, Repugs were asking "What do we do about (fat, frumpy, unphotogenic) Barbara?"

boutons_deux
11-04-2015, 02:26 PM
Finally someone came forward and said it loud and clear. Jonathan Chait of New York Magazine (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/ben-carson-running-for-president.html) has stepped forward to call out Ben Carson and his ludicrous, self-interested "presidential" campaign.

But now Carson actually is running for president. Or is he? It is hard to tell.


Conservative politics are so closely intermingled with a lucrative entertainment complex that it is frequently impossible to distinguish between a political project (that is, something designed to result in policy change) and a money-making venture.

Declaring yourself a presidential candidate gives you access to millions of dollars' worth of free media attention that can build a valuable brand.

So the mere fact that Carson calls himself a presidential candidate does not prove he is actually running for president rather than taking advantage of the opportunity to build his brand.

Indeed, it is possible to be actually leading the polls without seriously trying to win the presidency.

And the notion that Carson could be president is preposterous.

The problem is not only that he has never run for elected office.

He has never managed a large organization;

he has not worked in and around public policy, and

he lacks a competent grasp of issues.

His stance on health care, the closest thing to an issue with which his professional experience has brought him into contact, is gibberish.

He mostly thrills audiences by scoffing at evolution and

insisting Muslims be barred from the presidency,

stances he cannot even defend coherently.


Truly, there is nothing to add to Chait's assessment. Carson is a major-league grifter, trying to fob himself off as a serious contender for the highest office in the land. That he is ahead in many polls is a reflection on the pitiable state of the Republican party, eager to let themselves be played by a world-class phony. And truly, once you read Chait's article there is nothing more to say.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/03/1444065/-In-other-words-the-man-s-a-grifter?detail=email

The Repugs selecting pit bull bitch to run for "pitcher of warm spit" elevated grifterism and con men above govt policy.

When you profess to hate and want to destroy govt, when you refuse actually to govern, then why run serious candidates?

And, in his mastery of idiomatic, vernacular English, he now says some sent him a "submarine" when exposing lie about his supplement pimping. :lol

Cry Havoc
11-04-2015, 09:55 PM
So um

http://www.buzzfeed.com/natemcdermott/ben-carson-egyptian-pyramids-built-for-grain-storage-not-by?bffbpolitics&utm_term=4ldqpht#4ldqpht

Ben Carson: Egyptian Pyramids Built For Grain Storage, Not By Aliens Or As Tombs


:lmao at anyone trying to defend this loony toon. :lmao He's like the classic idiot in a comic book or sitcom. Except some people think he's fit to lead a country. :lmao

DMX7
11-04-2015, 11:09 PM
The Joke About Mrs. Ben Carson’s Appearance Is No Laughing Matter


http://www.theroot.com/content/dam/theroot/articles/culture/2015/09/the_joke_about_mrs_ben_carson_s_appearance_is_no_l aughing_matter/mrscarsoncrop.png.CROP.rtstoryvar-large.png
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2015/09/the_joke_about_mrs_ben_carson_s_appearance_is_no_l aughing_matter.html?wpisrc=ck_taboola

Benny's $Ms can't buy his wife nice threads?

I remember when Pappy Bush was elected, Repugs were asking "What do we do about (fat, frumpy, unphotogenic) Barbara?"




Dude, you shouldn't go after her looks. And have you heard her sing? She has the voice of an angel.

rmt
11-05-2015, 01:45 AM
The Joke About Mrs. Ben Carson’s Appearance Is No Laughing Matter


http://www.theroot.com/content/dam/theroot/articles/culture/2015/09/the_joke_about_mrs_ben_carson_s_appearance_is_no_l aughing_matter/mrscarsoncrop.png.CROP.rtstoryvar-large.png
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2015/09/the_joke_about_mrs_ben_carson_s_appearance_is_no_l aughing_matter.html?wpisrc=ck_taboola

Benny's $Ms can't buy his wife nice threads?

I remember when Pappy Bush was elected, Repugs were asking "What do we do about (fat, frumpy, unphotogenic) Barbara?"




I'm sure someone will help her with her wardrobe if he wins (those polka dots have to go). You gotta admire rich, successful men (like Federer, Carson, Pierce Brosnan) who have been married a long time to not-so-great looking women - shows a lot of loyalty/love - lots of temptation out there.

boutons_deux
11-05-2015, 10:52 AM
A tale of two Carsons

Ben Carson, the soft-spoken, Yale-educated brain surgeon who has surged in the GOP presidential race, has written and spoken powerfully of divine intervention at several pivotal moments in his life.

At the core of his narrative of spiritual redemption are his acts of violence as an angry young man — stabbing, rock throwing, brick hurling and baseball bat beating — that preceded Carson's sudden transformation into the composed figure who stands before voters today.

In his 1990 autobiography, "Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story," Carson describes those acts as flowing from an uncontrollable "pathological temper." The violent episodes he has detailed in his book, in public statements and in interviews, include punching a classmate in the face with his hand wrapped around a lock, leaving a bloody three-inch gash in the boy's forehead; attempting to attack his own mother with a hammer following an argument over clothes; hurling a large rock at a boy, which broke the youth's glasses and smashed his nose; and, finally, thrusting a knife at the belly of his friend with such force that the blade snapped when it luckily struck a belt buckle covered by the boy's clothes.

"I was trying to kill somebody," Carson said, describing the incident -- which he has said occurred at age 14 in ninth grade -- during a September forum at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco.
But nine friends, classmates and neighbors who grew up with Carson told CNN they have no memory of the anger or violence the candidate has described.

That person is unrecognizable to those whom CNN interviewed, who knew him during those formative years.

All of the people interviewed expressed surprise about the incidents Carson has described. No one challenged the stories directly. Some of those interviewed expressed skepticism, but noted that they could not know what had happened behind closed doors.

Gerald Ware, a classmate at Southwestern High School said he was "shocked" to read about the violence in Carson's book.

"I don't know nothing about that," said Ware, who still lives in southwestern Detroit. "It would have been all over the whole school."

CNN was unable to independently confirm any of the incidents, which Carson said occurred when he was a juvenile.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html?ncid=newsltushpmg00000003

So it looks like Carson, typical rightwingnut Christian Taliban living in an alternative, irrational reality, not only denies facts, he makes up facts. God Loves Them Who Lie For Themselves.

boutons_deux
11-05-2015, 05:07 PM
Ben Carson stumped by Cuba policy questions in Florida

Ben Carson has defied the traditional presidential playbook, taking time off from the campaign trail to promote his latest book and sign copies for hundreds of fans, even in Democratic strongholds like Tallahassee.

He heads to more unusual ground in South Florida on Thursday: West Kendall, a Latino bastion, and Fort Lauderdale, the seat of the bluest county in Florida. Carson leads hometown candidates Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush in the latest Florida polls, behind Donald Trump.

"I'm a little different than most of the candidates," Carson told The Miami Herald in a phone interview Wednesday.

Before Carson campaigns to Miami-Dade County's Cuban-American Republicans, though, he might have a little catching up to do.

In the Herald interview, Carson appeared stumped by questions about the so-called wet-foot, dry-foot policy, which allows Cubans who reach U.S. soil to remain here, and about the Cuban Adjustment Act, which allows Cubans who arrive in the U.S. to apply for legal residency after 366 days.

He was candid about not being up to speed.

"You're going to have to explain to me exactly what you mean by that," Carson said, asked about wet-foot, dry-foot. "I have to admit that I don't know a great deal about that, and I don't really like to comment until I've had a chance to study the issue from both sides."

On the Cuban Adjustment Act, he gave a similar response: "Again, I've not been briefed fully on what that is."

When a reporter explained the outlines of the policy, Carson said, "It sounds perfectly reasonable."

The reporter then informed him of abuses to the policy by Cubans who obtain residency and claim federal government benefits only to make frequent trips back to the island. The abuses have been documented by The South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carson-stumped-by-cuba-policy-questions-in-florida/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
11-05-2015, 05:21 PM
Meet The Pyramid Truthers: Where Ben Carson’s Whacky Theory Came From

Ben Carson isn't the only pyramid truther out there.

\The GOP frontrunner's theory (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-pyramids) that archaeologists are wrong and that the Egyptian pyramids were really built by the biblical figure Joseph to store grain wasn't created in a vacuum. In the fringier corners of the Internet, variations of the pyramids-as-grain-storage argument has spawned entire blogs (https://josephandisraelinegypt.wordpress.com/) and a 30-minute documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaN2acVMGC8).

Carson -- who is continuing to defend (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-stands-by-pyramid-theory)beliefs that were surfaced this week in video of a 1998 commencement address by the acclaimed neurosurgeon -- joins the ranks of pyramids truthers who believe that, warned by God of an oncoming famine, Joseph built grain storage units that exist today in the form of the ancient pyramids.

His theory flies in the face of what has long been settled by modern archeologists: that the pyramids were built as tombs for Egyptian pharaohs.

In a blog post (http://www.historymatters.group.shef.ac.uk/pyramids-grain-stores-ben-carsons-theory/) Thursday morning, Richard Flower, a senior lecturer in classics and ancient history at the University of Exeter, laid out the basics of the Old Testament story of Joseph and how it's been mistakenly connected to the pyramids for centuries:

“When one looks at the relevant part of Genesis, however, it becomes clear that it offers questionable support for Carson’s position. After interpreting Pharaoh’s dream as meaning that seven years of plenty will be followed by seven years of famine, Joseph gave instructions to the people of Egypt, saying, ‘let them gather all the food of those good years that come, and lay up corn under the hand of Pharaoh, and let them keep food in the cities’. There is no reference made to Joseph building any granaries for this purpose, although it is possible that he is assumed to have done so.”

According to Flower, the theory gained traction in Gregory of Tours’ History of the Franks, written in the 6th century, where the bishop wrote about a “city in which Joseph built granaries from squared stones and rubble with marvellous workmanship."

“He made them larger at the base and very much smaller at the top so that wheat could be thrown in there through a tiny hole. These granaries are still visible even today,” Gregory wrote at the time, according to Flower.

Flower suggests the theory is driven by a desire to “find an explanation for these obvious and fascinating remnants of the distant past.”

Elsewhere, on the Internet, however, true believers are still looking for evidence to support the idea that at least one of the pyramids was built by Joseph.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/ben-carson-pyramid-theory-roots?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

boutons_deux
11-05-2015, 05:22 PM
Ben Carson: My ideas about creationism and pyramids are ‘not silly at all’ — they’re in the Bible

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carson-my-ideas-about-creationism-and-pyramids-are-not-silly-at-all-theyre-in-the-bible/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
11-05-2015, 05:58 PM
WSJ Calls Out Carson For Bungling Fact About The Founding Fathers

The Wall Street Journal called out Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson Thursday for wrongly claiming the Founding Fathers "had no elected office experience."

In a Facebook post (https://www.facebook.com/realbencarson/posts/549786315187839) late Wednesday, Carson wrote: "Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience...What they had was a deep belief that freedom is a gift from God."

The Journal pointed out (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/11/05/ben-carson-states-wrongly-that-founding-fathers-had-no-elected-office/) the historical inaccuracy Thursday. Thomas Jefferson, Sam Adams, John Hancock and many other signer of the Declaration of Independence all held elected seats in colonial assemblies, Benjamin Carp, an associate history professor at Brooklyn College, told the paper.

A spokesman for the Carson campaign, when asked about the error, told the paper that the retired neurosurgeon had since edited his post to clarify the signers has no experience in "federal" office.
Carson isn't the only 2016 Republican candidate who's taken liberty with the Founding Fathers' legacies.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) misquotes the country's founders in his books and speeches so frequently that BuzzFeed reporter Andrew Kaczynski, who's been fact-checking Rand since 2013, published a letter (http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/an-open-letter-to-rand-paul-please-for-the-love-of-god-stop#.ccDVd2y7OD) last month asking the senator to stop using fake quotes.

Paul dismissed (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/27/rand-paul-says-its-idiocy-to-challenge-his-quotes-from-founding-fathers/)Kaczynski (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/10/27/rand-paul-says-its-idiocy-to-challenge-his-quotes-from-founding-fathers/) as a "partisan hack" at the helm of a "ridiculous cottage industry out there of people who think they're smarter than everyone else."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-founding-fathers-elected-office?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

DMX7
11-05-2015, 09:33 PM
I'm sure someone will help her with her wardrobe if he wins (those polka dots have to go). You gotta admire rich, successful men (like Federer, Carson, Pierce Brosnan) who have been married a long time to not-so-great looking women - shows a lot of loyalty/love - lots of temptation out there.

Pierce's first wife was a Bond girl. Ironically, she was a Bond girls before he became Bond.

Nbadan
11-05-2015, 11:40 PM
Nothing to see here folks...


You see, Carson's beliefs are inextricably tied up with his religion, and the media can't be seen to be attacking a candidates religion, right?

But we're getting ahead of ourselves, how is this connected to his religion?

Well, grab a beer and settle in; this is gonna take some explaining.

Carson is a Seventh Day Adventist. One of the founders of his religion was a woman, who SDA venerates as an actual prophet, named Ellen White. White prophesied alllll sorts of things and SDAs believe these are all factual, that she is, "inerrant" or even that god directly spoke through her. Proving her prophecies to be true would mean that their faith is real.

Ok, so?

Back in the 1990s, there a very famous - in some religious circles - SDA pseudo-archaeologist named Ron Wyatt. He made it his life's work to use "archaeology" to prove the bible was right, but to SPECIFICALLY prove that certain Ellen White prophesies were right.

Here's some of the things he claimed to have discovered:

- Noah's Ark (the Durupınar site, located approximately 18 miles (29 km) south of Mount Ararat)
- Anchor stones (or drogue stones) used by Noah on the Ark
- The post-flood house, grave markers and tombs of Noah and his wife
- The location of Sodom and Gomorrah and the other Cities of the Plain: Zoar, Zeboim and Admah
- Sulfur/brimstone balls from the ashen remains of Sodom and Gomorrah.
- The area of Djoser's pyramid complex believed to be the remains of Joseph's grain distribution bins used during the 7 year famine.
- The Tower of Babel site (in southern Turkey)
- How the Egyptians may have built the pyramids.
- The site of the Israelites' crossing of the Red Sea (located in the Gulf of Aqaba)
- Chariot wheels and other relics of the army of Pharaoh at the bottom of the Red Sea
- The site of the biblical Mt. Sinai (in Saudi Arabia at Jabal al Lawz)
- A chamber at the end of a maze of tunnels under Jerusalem containing artifacts from Solomon's Temple (including the Ark of the Covenant).
- The site of the Crucifixion of Jesus
- Christ's blood, dripped onto the Mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant beneath the Crucifixion site.

You might have noticed something on that list, but if you didn't I'll type it again:

- The area of Djoser's pyramid complex believed to be the remains of Joseph's grain distribution bins used during the 7 year famine.

You see, Ron Wyatt invented a wonderful new theory, that Imhotep, who made the pyramids, was in actual fact the biblical Joseph.

This idea was quite popular in the late 1990s, among the SDA, and surely Carson heard this idea from Wyatt, who was very well known in the church.

And - almost certainly - Carson believes Imhotep was ACTUALLY Joseph.

Wyatt was a serial liar though... and a conman. His wife carries on his, "work" with the "Wyatt Archeological Research" organisation... which is a for profit entity.

http://www.ronwyatt.com/promtional_products.html
http://wyattmuseum.com/shop

rmt
11-06-2015, 12:48 AM
Pierce's first wife was a Bond girl. Ironically, she was a Bond girls before he became Bond.

Pierce's current wife is a beautiful woman - just so overweight now. Maybe she has some medical problem. Don't think that's Mirka's problem though - 2 sets of twins - gotta hand it to her - traveling with them can't be easy.

boutons_deux
11-06-2015, 05:54 AM
Pierce's current wife is a beautiful woman - just so overweight now. Maybe she has some medical problem. Don't think that's Mirka's problem though - 2 sets of twins - gotta hand it to her - traveling with them can't be easy.


http://i41.tinypic.com/14jys89.jpg

boutons_deux
11-06-2015, 07:04 AM
Ben Carson’s Bizarro-World Pyramid Madness: This Is Why Evangelicals Adore Him

The doctor is beloved by evangelical voters, but he probably won't appeal to others. He may not even want to

And Carson’s story of the pyramids, I think, gives us a clue to what that might be. It’s clear that it’s not enough, for evangelicals, to have their subculture and to be happy about it.

There is a clear need to believe that their worldview and ideas are at the very center of history itself.

Just as they need to believe that a Biblical figure like Joseph actually ran the ancient Egyptian government, they need to see themselves at the center of American culture, the true definers of it and not just a fringe subculture.

Prominent political figures who are in national debates and getting interviewed on TV scratches that itch.

And Carson gives them that without having to engage in the coded language that someone like George W. Bush used.

Ben Carson is one of theirs, unvarnished and unapologetic, on the center stage. He is their mythical Joseph—an outsider of humble origins who is destined for great leadership—for now, anyway. He is going to cash in on that as long as he can.

(http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/ben-carsons-bizarro-world-pyramid-madness-why-evangelicals-adore-him)h (http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/ben-carsons-bizarro-world-pyramid-madness-why-evangelicals-adore-him)ttp://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/ben-carsons-bizarro-world-pyramid-madness-why-evangelicals-adore-him (http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/ben-carsons-bizarro-world-pyramid-madness-why-evangelicals-adore-him)

like pitbull bitch, Carson is self-promoting, ignornant grifter, a fachiot, and you rightwingnuts get suckered every time

After he flames out of politics, will Carson start his own TV show, or even an entire channel?

Start a PAC that spends 98% of its $10Ms in revenue on "administration and overhead"?

Carson clearly has pushed his brand of grifterism to new heights, with $10Ms revenue glittering in the not-so-distant future.

rmt
11-06-2015, 07:55 AM
http://i41.tinypic.com/14jys89.jpg

Nice to know that for Brosnan, it's not all physical appearance. Kudos to him.

boutons_deux
11-06-2015, 10:49 AM
Meet Armstrong Williams — the shady grifter who’s running Ben Carson’s bizarro campaign


http://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/armstrong_williams_facebook-800x430.jpg

To explain the quixotic decision to stay out of the early primary states and cash-in on his celebrity by selling books instead (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carson-archeologists-are-wrong-egyptian-pyramids-were-grain-stores-not-pharaohs-tombs/), one need only look to Carson’s business manager and unofficial campaign manager, political commentator Armstrong Williams.

In 2005, Williams’ career as a commentator took a hit when USA Today (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-06-williams-whitehouse_x.htm) revealed he had secretly accepted $240,000 from President George W. Bush’s administration to promote Bush’s signature No Child Left Behind act by mentioning it favorably in his columns and in his media appearances.

William’s business practices revealed that the political commentator had previously allowed his syndicated radio show, “The Right Side,” to be used by a front group representing the tobacco industry (http://www.prwatch.org/news/2005/01/3185/other-armstrong-williams-scandal).

Williams has guided Carson’s career from neurosurgeon to author of multiple best sellers and the subject of a television movie — helping to launch his political career as a conservative gadfly and potential presidential material.

As noted by Jonathan Chait (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/ben-carson-running-for-president.html#) at New York Magazine, Carson’s campaign has all the trappings of a direct mail business operation; plowing an extraordinarily high rate of donations back into seeking even more donations while building up a potentially lucrative mailing list.

As Chait writes,

“Spending most of your money to raise more money is not a good way to get elected president, but it is a good way to build a massive list of supporters that can later be monetized. Perhaps it is a giveaway that the official title for Armstrong Williams, the figure running the Carson ‘campaign,’ is ‘business manager,’ as opposed to ‘campaign manager.’ It does suggests that Carson is engaged in a for-profit venture.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/meet-armstrong-williams-the-shady-grifter-whos-running-ben-carsons-bizarro-campaign/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
11-06-2015, 11:07 AM
Carson Plummets in Polls Amid Reports He Did Not Stab Anyone

DES MOINES — New reports indicating that Ben Carson might not have actually stabbed anyone during his youth have sent the retired neurosurgeon plummeting in the latest Republican Presidential polls.

Carson supporters, reeling from the news that their candidate’s past might have been devoid of stabbing, have deserted his candidacy in droves, suggesting that Republican voters viewed Carson’s stabbing as a key part of his résumé.

Indeed, a recent University of Minnesota poll showed that a full third of Carson supporters singled out “his stabbing experience” as a top reason for supporting him for the nation’s highest office.

In Iowa, where Carson was the front-runner before the non-stabbing bombshell hit, voters like Carol Foyler, of Des Moines, expressed dismay and disillusionment that the retired doctor might have fabricated his stabbing exploits to make himself more appealing to Republican voters.

“I was on the fence about Ben Carson, but the stabbing thing really won me over,” she said. “Now, I don’t know what to think.”

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/carson-plummets-in-polls-amid-reports-he-did-not-stab-anyone?mbid=nl_110615%20Borowitz%20Newsletter%20(1 )&CNDID=&spMailingID=8228380&spUserID=MjczNzc0Njk0NDAS1&spJobID=800591460&spReportId=ODAwNTkxNDYwS0

boutons_deux
11-06-2015, 11:10 AM
Ben Carson is furious that CNN quoted Ben Carson (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/06/1445646/-Ben-Carson-is-furious-that-CNN-quoted-Ben-Carson)

Carson is outraged (http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/06/politics/ben-carson-responds-violent-past-new-day/index.html?sr=twCNN110615ben-carson-responds-violent-past-new-day0152PMVODtopLink&linkId=18552361) that CNN would dare question his accounts of his own life (the details of which have shifted from telling to telling) and because—get this—the media didn't apply this level of scrutiny to President Obama! Reminded that "it's called vetting" and provided with specific instances of questions the media raised about Obama's autobiography, Carson laughed "give me a break."


What you all did with President Obama doesn't even come close—doesn't even come close to what you guys are trying to do in my case. And you're going to keep going back, trying to find, he said this 12 years ago. It is just garbage.

Interviewing people about the pivotal events in a candidate's past when the candidate's own public accounts of those events have changed from telling to telling? Outrageous!

And way, way beyond years of questions about the president's birth certificate, amiright?

But Carson certainly has mastered the "I'm a victim of the media" tone.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/06/1445646/-Ben-Carson-is-furious-that-CNN-quoted-Ben-Carson?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

boutons_deux
11-06-2015, 12:00 PM
BUSTED: Ben Carson’s campaign forced to admit he made up West Point scholarship story


A campaign official said Carson had made up a story about meeting with Gen. William Westmoreland and being offered a scholarship to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

Carson, the retired neurosurgeon, claimed in his book, “Gifted Hands,” that he was introduced to Westmoreland in 1969, when he was 17 years old.

He claimed that he shared a meal with Westmoreland, who had just ended his command of U.S. forces in Vietnam, and the general was so impressed with the boy that he offered him a “full scholarship” to the military academy.

However, West Point has no record of Carson applying or being admitted to the academy.

“In 1969, those who would have completed the entire process would have received their acceptance letters from the Army Adjutant General,” said Theresa Brinkerhoff, a West Point spokeswoman.

The spokeswoman said West Point would have records to prove whether Carson had pursued the application process.

Carson’s campaign admitted the story was bogus when confronted with the evidence.

“Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit,” campaign manager Barry Bennett told Polico. “In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carsons-campaign-admits-he-made-up-scholarship-offer-to-west-point/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
11-06-2015, 12:09 PM
Who Is Ben Carson's Mystery Physicist?


“I recently had a discussion with a well-known physicist. He was talking about the Big Bang Theory and how all this obviously culminated into this wonderful, extraordinarily organized solar system that we now have, which you can set your watch by, where scientists can predict 70 years away when a comet is coming. That’s an incredible amount of organization to have originated from just a large explosion.”

Carson then tells the story of how he supposedly stumped the physicist by asking him how he could reconcile such an “organized” universe with the laws of thermodynamics, specifically entropy, which says that systems tend to move towards disorder.

“Well of course he has no answer for that. They never have an answer for any of these things.”


Huh. Not just a physicist, a "well-known" physicist. And Carson says this guy was floored by his question. Apparently he had never given any thought to whether the Big Bang theory was compatible with the second law of thermodynamics.

Conclusion: either this was the stupidest physicist ever, or else Carson was lying. I think you can guess which side I'm on, but Carson can clear this up in a trice by telling us who this hapless physicist
was. I sure hope it's not someone who's conveniently dead.

POSTSCRIPT:

It's probably worth noting that conservative Christians are just generally a little gaga over the second law of thermodynamics, which they're convinced disproves the theory of evolution.

You can yell "In a closed system!" until you're blue in the face, and it makes no difference. They've stumped you! There are dozens of more sophisticated versions of this argument, too. Carson is just extending this chestnut a little further back in time.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/11/who-ben-carsons-mystery-physicist

Nbadan
11-06-2015, 01:01 PM
That religion shit is some wacky stuff......this is ....well

Unstable Ben Carson is a mere puppet of his “business manager” Armstrong Williams
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/exposed-unstable-ben-carson-is-a-mere-puppet-of-his-business-manager-armstrong-williams/22955/

So
who is Armstrong Williams? He’s a conservative political commentator who has enough business sense to now own several media entities of his own. He’s also been disgraced after getting caught taking a $240,000 payment from the George W. Bush administration in exchange for making positive statements about Bush’s “No Child Left Behind” initiative on various news programs while pretending to be an impartial commentator; he was fired from at least one of those gigs after the scandal was exposed. Previously he was caught in similar secret arrangement with the tobacco industry.

Armstrong Williams, it would seem, is simply cashing in on his friend Ben Carson’s compromised mental state, and has been for some time. At every point in the campaign, Williams has been seen pulling the puppet strings in various ways. There was the CNN interview that was cut short by Williams after the interviewer asked one too many questions about Carson’s religion (try to imagine another candidate like Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush allowing a staffer to prematurely end a TV interview for any reason). It was Williams who explained away the book tour strategy after Carson suggested he had no knowledge of it. It’s enough to make one think that when Carson stated during the debate that he didn’t know his likeness was being used by the supplement company, perhaps he was telling the truth and genuinely wasn’t aware of what Williams was doing on his behalf.

All candidates for President have various types of handlers. And they all rely on their top staffers for advice behind closed doors. But it’s unlike anything seen before that a “business manager” is visibly making every decision big and small on behalf of a Presidential candidate who often comes off as having no idea what’s going on with his campaign, often can’t seem to remember where he claim to stand on an issue, can’t sit for an interview without the manager at his side, and is clearly too erratic to be the mind behind his own scheming financial tie-ins.

Without knowing the specific dollars and percentages flowing from Ben Carson to Armstrong Williams on these various deals, it’s difficult to say for certain the egregiousness of their financial relationship. But the nature of this bizarre political campaign which is clearly about maximizing profits even though Carson seems to think it’s about trying to win, the ongoing nature of Carson’s shady and pointless financial endorsements, and Armstrong’s documented history of financial dishonesty, it’s not difficult to wonder aloud if Williams has been simply using the mentally unstable Carson as an ongoing cash cow – and that this entire campaign for President is simply part of that scheme. Rather than condemning Ben Carson, should we be pitying him?

Nbadan
11-06-2015, 01:04 PM
and, of course....


Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson's campaign admitted Friday that the former neurosurgeon fabricated a story about applying to and being accepted at West Point. Carson's campaign made the admission in response to an inquiry from Politico. West Point has no record of Carson applying for admission, Politico said. In Carson's book "Gifted Hands," he says he got a "full scholarship" to the military academy.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ben-carson-admits-making-up-west-point-scholarship-report-2015-11-06

Nbadan
11-06-2015, 01:06 PM
Har....

http://i.imgur.com/um0yPqc.jpg

Nbadan
11-06-2015, 01:41 PM
Ben Carson Fabricated Violent Juvenile Past, CNN Investigation Suggests
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/ben-carson-fabricated-violent-juvenile-past-cnn-investigation-145104502.html?ref=gs

"SNIP..........


On the campaign trail, the former neurosurgeon has recounted being an angry juvenile in his native Detroit — stabbing, throwing rocks at people, hurling bricks and beating others with baseball bats.

But through interviews with nine former classmates and friends, CNN was unable to verify any incidents supporting those claims.

Also Read: Ben Carson Topples Donald Trump Nationally

One former classmate told the network: “I don’t know nothing about that… it would have been all over the whole school.” Another classmate
told CNN, “I personally do not have knowledge of those incidents… I wondered, ‘When did that happen?'”

A former friend of Carson said if he was as big a hothead as he described, it wouldn’t be a secret.”He got through his day trying not to be noticed… I remember him having a pocket saver. He had thick glasses. He was skinny and unremarkable.”

Nbadan
11-06-2015, 01:52 PM
Borowitz...

Carson Plummets in Polls Amid Reports He Did Not Stab Anyone


DES MOINES (The Borowitz Report)—New reports indicating that Ben Carson might not have actually stabbed anyone during his youth have sent the retired neurosurgeon plummeting in the latest Republican Presidential polls.

Carson supporters, reeling from the news that their candidate’s past might have been devoid of stabbing, have deserted his candidacy in droves, suggesting that Republican voters viewed Carson’s stabbing as a key part of his résumé.

Indeed, a recent University of Minnesota poll showed that a full third of Carson supporters singled out “his stabbing experience” as a top reason for supporting him for the nation’s highest office.

In Iowa, where Carson was the front-runner before the non-stabbing bombshell hit, voters like Carol Foyler, of Des Moines, expressed dismay and disillusionment that the retired doctor might have fabricated his stabbing exploits to make himself more appealing to Republican voters.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/carson-plummets-in-polls-amid-reports-he-did-not-stab-anyone

boutons_deux
11-07-2015, 11:47 AM
Twitter invents hilarious #BenCarsonWikipedia facts to mock candidate’s battle with reality


http://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/An-image-mocking-GOP-presidential-candidate-Ben-Carson-Twitter-800x430.jpg


Scott Poole @thepoetryreport (https://twitter.com/thepoetryreport)

#bencarsonwikipedia (https://twitter.com/hashtag/bencarsonwikipedia?src=hash). All the stone inside the pyramids is petrified wheat. Duh. What do think dinosaurs ate in the desert?



Erika Hall @mulegirl (https://twitter.com/mulegirl)

Roombas are cyborg anchor babies. #bencarsonwikipedia (https://twitter.com/hashtag/bencarsonwikipedia?src=hash)


TrivWorks @TrivWorks (https://twitter.com/TrivWorks)

God crated Fossils on Day 7, because he works in mysterious ways #BenCarsonWikipedia (https://twitter.com/hashtag/BenCarsonWikipedia?src=hash)


Juan @jrivera64 (https://twitter.com/jrivera64)

The Berlin Wall was erected because of the great popularity of racket ball in Germany. #bencarsonwikipedia (https://twitter.com/hashtag/bencarsonwikipedia?src=hash)


Saint Brian @AWorldOutOfMind (https://twitter.com/AWorldOutOfMind)

#bencarsonwikipedia (https://twitter.com/hashtag/bencarsonwikipedia?src=hash) The square root of any number is always four, because a square has four sides


Mike Monteiro @monteiro (https://twitter.com/monteiro)

A pony must eat 57 apples before it becomes a horse. #bencarsonwikipedia (https://twitter.com/hashtag/bencarsonwikipedia?src=hash)


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/twitter-invents-hilarious-bencarsonwikipedia-facts-to-mock-candidates-struggle-with-reality/

boutons_deux
11-07-2015, 12:16 PM
Nice to know that for Brosnan, it's not all physical appearance. Kudos to him.

With Pierce's $10Ms, it's mysterious why his clinically obese wife doesn't get help for her physical and/or mental diseases

rmt
11-07-2015, 01:42 PM
With Pierce's $10Ms, it's mysterious why his clinically obese wife doesn't get help for her physical and/or mental diseases

If it's a medical problem, maybe there is no help or whatever drugs are the "cure" causes more problems elsewhere and just isn't worth it.

boutons_deux
11-08-2015, 12:29 PM
Ben Carson addresses addiction ‘as a doctor’ by faulting the ‘values and principles’ of addicts

Unfortunately, Carson did not use his experience as a famed neurosurgeon to address the biological component of addiction.

And his assertion that addiction is caused by faulty morality does not square with the National Institute on Drug Abuse, which defines addiction (https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugs-brains-behavior-science-addiction/drug-abuse-addiction) as “a chronic, relapsing brain disease that is characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use, despite harmful consequences.”

“Addiction is a lot like other diseases, such as heart disease. Both disrupt the normal, healthy functioning of the underlying organ, have serious harmful consequences, and are preventable and treatable, but if left untreated, can last a lifetime,” according to the NIH. “Scientists estimate that genetic factors account for between 40 and 60 percent of a person’s vulnerability to addiction; this includes the effects of environmental factors on the function and expression of a person’s genes.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carson-addresses-addiction-as-a-doctor-by-faulting-the-values-and-principles-of-addicts/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Not only he is stupid, ignorant as a politician, his puritannical Christian Sharia makes him stupid, ignorant about addiction, TRUMPing his medical education.

He wants to keep the War on Drugs going because it has been a huge and increasing success.

He's pandering to the superior, Christian whites who see addiction as a moral problem for non-whites only.

He's an ignorant fuck who shouldn't be let near ANY political office or govt job.


How a heroin epidemic among white Americans led to a softer war on drugs
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/1/9647704/heroin-epidemic-war-on-drugs

boutons_deux
11-08-2015, 01:07 PM
More Bizarre Carson Stories Emerge: New World Order Paranoia and a Painting of Himself with Jesus

What the hell is going on with the GOP front-runner? Here's a recap.

Guardian Profile: Carson has a painting of him with Jesus in his house.

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/carson1.jpg

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/carson_jesus.png
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/more-bizarre-carson-stories-emerge-new-world-order-paranoia-and-paintings-himself

fruitcake Carson and Klown Trump as front runners, with slimebag Rubio and Christian Taliban Cruz in 2nd place. The Repug base is fucking scary ridiculous.

boutons_deux
11-08-2015, 01:21 PM
Carson: Loss of Keystone Leaves U.S. With No Place to Store Grain

WASHINGTON — Presidential candidate Ben Carson has issued a dire warning that President Obama’s cancellation of the Keystone Pipeline has left the United States with “virtually no place to store grain.”

Without the massive pipeline, Carson told Fox News, the nation’s network of silos is woefully inadequate “to store the bounty of grain that we soweth.”

Carson said that as President, he would seek additional places to store grain, such as “the hollowed-out heads on Mt. Rushmore.”

“A nation’s greatness is measured by its ability to store grain,” he said. “I will return America to its former greatness.”

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/carson-loss-of-keystone-leaves-u-s-with-no-place-to-store-grain

boutons_deux
11-08-2015, 11:01 PM
Another Ben Carson Tale Implodes: No Evidence Supports Claim He Shielded White Classmates From 1968 Race Riot

Now the Wall Street Journal (http://www.wsj.com/articles/ben-carsons-past-faces-deeper-questions-1446861864) has gone back to fact check a claim Carson made last month, in which he says he shielded white students from rioting after the assassination of civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr. in 1968. The Journal could find no evidence the event occurred.

“It may have happened, but I didn’t see it myself or hear about it,” Gregory Vartanian, a white high school classmate of Carson’s who was on ROTC with him and is now a retired U.S. Marshal, told the Journal.

In Carson’s account to the Journal last month, black students unleashed fury and grief over the slaying of King on white classmates at Detroit’s Southwestern High. As a junior, Carson had a key to the biology lab because he worked there part-time. Carson claimed he hid a few frightened white students inside to shield them from the unrest. He could not recall any of their names.

None of the half-dozen former classmates of Carson or his high school physics teacher could recall white students hiding from rioting the in the biology lab when interviewed by the Journal — though they all remembered the riot itself.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/another-ben-carson-tale-implodes-no-evidence-supports-claim-he-shielded-white

Wild Cobra
11-09-2015, 01:13 AM
Why all this attention about Carson?

Is it both black and white bigotry?

One side hasting blacks, the other hating uncle toms?

boutons_deux
11-09-2015, 05:40 AM
"On Friday, The Wall Street Journal looked into another episode (http://www.wsj.com/articles/ben-carsons-past-faces-deeper-questions-1446861864): “In his 1990 autobiography, ‘Gifted Hands,’ Mr. Carson writes of a Yale psychology professor who told Mr. Carson, then a junior, and the other students in the class — identified by Mr. Carson as Perceptions 301 — that their final exam papers had ‘inadvertently burned,’ requiring all 150 students to retake it.

The new exam, Mr. Carson recalled in the book, was much tougher. All the students but Mr. Carson walked out. ‘The professor came toward me. With her was a photographer for the Yale Daily News who paused and snapped my picture,’ Mr. Carson wrote. ‘ “A hoax,” the teacher said. “We wanted to see who was the most honest student in the class.” ’ Mr. Carson wrote that the professor handed him a $10 bill.”

But here is the kicker, according to The Journal:

“No photo identifying Mr. Carson as a student ever ran, according to the Yale Daily News archives, and

no stories from that era mention a class called Perceptions 301.

Yale Librarian Claryn Spies said Friday there was no psychology course by that name or class number during any of Mr. Carson’s years at Yale.”"

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/09/opinion/ben-carson-and-the-truth.html?_r=1

boutons_deux
11-09-2015, 05:42 AM
Why all this attention about Carson?

"why all this attention about Obama?" was a question you asked in 2007, 2008? :lol

boutons_deux
11-09-2015, 06:16 AM
The Journal pointed out (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/11/05/ben-carson-states-wrongly-that-founding-fathers-had-no-elected-office/) that Carson falsely claimed last week in a Facebook post that “Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.”

The paper interviewed Benjamin L. Carp, an associate professor of history at Brooklyn College and author of books on the American Revolution. According to The Journal’s article on the matter:

“Mr. Carp said Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, John Hancock and many other signers had been elected members of their colonial assemblies, prior to signing the Declaration.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/09/opinion/ben-carson-and-the-truth.html?_r=1

boutons_deux
11-09-2015, 06:17 AM
In comparing the success of his Carson Scholars Fund to other nonprofits,

Carson has repeatedly claimed that “nine out of 10 nonprofits fail,”

a claim that The Washington Post Fact Checker hasrated false (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/10/26/ben-carsons-unsupported-claim-that-nine-out-of-10-nonprofits-fail/) with four Pinocchios, the worst rating — what the newspaper simply calls “whoppers.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/09/opinion/ben-carson-and-the-truth.html?_r=1

boutons_deux
11-09-2015, 06:18 AM
Of the 19 claims of Carson the fact checking site PolitiFact has delved into (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ben-carson/), none have been ruled true and only one mostly true.

Indeed most — like Carson’s claim that he “ ‘didn’t have an involvement with’ nutritional supplement company Mannatech” — have either been ruled false or what the site calls “pants on fire,” a statement the site rules as not only not accurate, but “ridiculous.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/09/opinion/ben-carson-and-the-truth.html?_r=1

boutons_deux
11-09-2015, 06:20 AM
Carson is a hard-core religionist in a fringe cult, one of the people who believe myths and lies as true, and generally make up shit.

That "thinking" also applies outside of their religions.

Blake
11-09-2015, 08:56 AM
Why all this attention about Carson?

Is it both black and white bigotry?

One side hasting blacks, the other hating uncle toms?

Carson is getting attention because he's a presidential candidate, genius.

Blake
11-09-2015, 08:57 AM
More Bizarre Carson Stories Emerge: New World Order Paranoia and a Painting of Himself with Jesus

What the hell is going on with the GOP front-runner? Here's a recap.

Guardian Profile: Carson has a painting of him with Jesus in his house.

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/carson1.jpg

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/carson_jesus.png
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/more-bizarre-carson-stories-emerge-new-world-order-paranoia-and-paintings-himself

fruitcake Carson and Klown Trump as front runners, with slimebag Rubio and Christian Taliban Cruz in 2nd place. The Repug base is fucking scary ridiculous.




Good lord are those paintings for realz?

FromWayDowntown
11-09-2015, 10:27 AM
I'm fascinated by the notion that assessing the truthfulness of claims that Dr. Carson himself has made about his past is character assassination.

If you don't want to be subjected to that kind of scrutiny, don't run for President; else, if you want to run for President knowing your past will be subjected to scrutiny, then at least be honest about the past.

Wild Cobra
11-09-2015, 10:30 AM
Carson is getting attention because he's a presidential candidate, genius.

When the pundits have to find erroneous fault and lie about it in the better candidates, those they like must be pretty damn lame.

Wild Cobra
11-09-2015, 10:31 AM
I'm fascinated by the notion that assessing the truthfulness of claims that Dr. Carson himself has made about his past is character assassination.

If you don't want to be subjected to that kind of scrutiny, don't run for President; else, if you want to run for President knowing your past will be subjected to scrutiny, then at least be honest about the past.

To my knowledge, he has been honest about it. the pundits are lying.

boutons_deux
11-09-2015, 10:31 AM
When the pundits have to find erroneous fault and lie about it in the better candidates, those they like must be pretty damn lame.

who's lying about Carson's fabrications, mythology, LIES?

Wild Cobra
11-09-2015, 10:32 AM
who's lying about Carson's fabrications, mythology, LIES?

What do you claim he fabricated?

boutons_deux
11-09-2015, 10:32 AM
Carson's claim to be qualified to be Pres is based on his self-promoting Carson Bible of Bullshit

FromWayDowntown
11-09-2015, 10:33 AM
To my knowledge, he has been honest about it. the pundits are lying.

What's this? Wild Cobra trusting a black surgeon . . . .

boutons_deux
11-09-2015, 11:01 AM
What do you claim he fabricated?

:lol You need to keep up, old man, as in reading the links in this devastating thread.

"Do Your Own Research" -- WC

Wild Cobra
11-09-2015, 12:54 PM
:lol You need to keep up, old man, as in reading the links in this devastating thread.

"Do Your Own Research" -- WC

I wanted to know what your claim was, because so much of this BS has already been debunked.

Trill Clinton
11-09-2015, 01:00 PM
was his bear story posted?

662832981954994176

boutons_deux
11-09-2015, 01:06 PM
Gentle Ben

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061255/

Dr Benny C is America's very own St Francis of Assisi (or Ace Ventura)

boutons_deux
11-10-2015, 06:03 AM
http://checkwww.alternet.org/files/11-8-mcfadden-vertical.png

boutons_deux
11-10-2015, 02:35 PM
Carson Hopes Debate Will Focus on Lost City of Atlantis

MILWAUKEE — Arguing that the voters have tired of “gotcha questions,” the Republican Presidential candidate Ben Carson said that he hoped Tuesday night’s debate would “focus on the real issues facing this country, like finding the lost city of Atlantis.”

“The American people don’t want to hear personal attacks,” Carson told reporters. “They want to know which candidate has the best plan for locating Atlantis and recovering its storied treasures.”

Carson said that finding Atlantis was central to his plan for reviving the U.S. economy. “We could start paying down the national debt with one jewel-encrusted trident,” he said.

As part of his continuing campaign against the mainstream media, Carson said that he would resist all attempts by debate moderators to get him to disclose his actual name and occupation.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/carson-hopes-debate-will-focus-on-lost-city-of-atlantis?mbid=nl_151110_Borowitz&CNDID=&spMailingID=8238233&spUserID=MjczNzc0Njk0NDAS1&spJobID=800982179&spReportId=ODAwOTgyMTc5S0

boutons_deux
11-12-2015, 01:40 PM
Ben Carson Made Money With the Help of a Felon Convicted of Health Care Fraud

"I would not advocate chopping off people's limbs, but there would be some very stiff penalties for this kind of fraud, such as loss of one's medical license for life, no less than ten years in prison, and loss of all of one's personal possessions," Carson wrote.

Yet several years earlier, Carson sent a letter to a federal judge in Pittsburgh pleading for leniency in the case of his best friend Alfonso Costa, a dentist in the Pittsburgh area who had pleaded guilty to federal charges (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-7618434.html) of health care fraud. And at the time Carson was seeking mercy for Costa, he had close business ties with Costa's real estate firm, Costa Land Management—a fact he neglected to mention in his letter to the judge.

Carson and Costa have long been tight. They vacation together, and Carson holidays at an Italian resort villa owned by Costa's company. Costa is president of the Pittsburgh chapter of the Ben Carson Scholars Fund, which awards $1,000 college scholarships to students who demonstrate good character and strong academics. And Costa's real estate development firm helps to oversee a lucrative investment for Carson and his wife, one that last year netted the Carsons between $200,000 and $2 million, according to the GOP candidate's financial disclosure forms.

Carson, who retired from medicine in 2013 and has spent recent years giving speeches and selling books, is worth at least $8 million (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/08/26/24-7-wall-st-net-worth-presidential-candidates/32409491/). A significant portion of his wealth comes from companies tied to Costa's real estate firm that own a lucrative property in the Pittsburgh area. The Carson campaign did not respond to a request for comment about his business relationship with Costa. But Carson's spokesman Doug Watts told the Associated Press (http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-carson-profits-friendship-felon-085227938--election.html): "I will confirm they are best friends and that they do hold business investments together."

Carson and Costa met in the 1990s, becoming fast friends with the Pittsburgh-based oral surgeon who had developed a lucrative side business as a real estate investor and developer. In 2004, Costa created a Pittsburgh chapter of Carson's charity, joined the national board, and began working closely with Carson. Three years later, when Carson and his wife invested in commercial real estate in the suburbs of Pittsburgh, Costa and his firm were closely associated with the entities the Carsons used to purchase an office building.

That year, Carson created two limited liability corporations in Pennsylvania—BenCan LLC AND INBS LLC—that listed Costa's residence at that time as their address. (And they still do, though Costa sold that house in 2011.) Shortly after their formation, the companies were used to purchase an office building in Mount Lebanon, a Pittsburgh suburb. Real estate records (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2504835-leaseassignment7.html) list Carson as the owner of BenCan and his wife Candy as the owner of INBS; the couple jointly purchased the building for $3 million, $2.4 million of which they borrowed. On both the mortgage (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2509160-mortgage.html) and the deed (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2509166-deed.html), Carson and his wife state their official addresses as Costa's office. Many of the publicly available documents associated with this property, including lease agreements, (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2509178-pnclease.html) are signed not by Carson or his wife, but by various executives from the Costa Land Company, including the outfit's chief operating officer, Sarah Piccione. Neither Costa nor Piccione responded to requests for comment.

Carson's personal financial disclosure, which he was required to file as a presidential candidate, notes that his investment in BenCan is worth between $1 million and $5 million and his wife's LLC is valued at $1 million or more. Though Carson has served on various corporate boards and earned millions through his books and speeches, the BenCan and INBS investments represent at least a quarter of the Carsons' net worth. According to Carson's disclosure, he and his wife earn between $200,000 and $2 million a year in income from their LLCs. (Candidates provide their income and the value of assets and liabilities in ranges). The Carsons' property investment has done well, with insurance company Allstate leasing office space the entire time the Carsons have owned it. More recently, the Carsons have added a drive-through ATM to the property.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/11/ben-carson-alfonso-costa-healthcare-fraud

boutons_deux
11-12-2015, 01:43 PM
Ben Carson Helped His Business-Partner Friend Avoid Prison After Felony Conviction


Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson has business ties to a close friend convicted of defrauding insurance companies and testified on the friend’s behalf, helping him avoid prison time, even as Carson has since called for such crimes to be punished harshly.
AP reports exclusively:


Pittsburgh dentist Alfonso A. Costa pleaded guilty to a felony count of health care fraud after an FBI probe into his oral surgery practice found he had charged for procedures he never performed, according to court records.

Though the crime carries a potential sentence of up to 10 years in federal prison, Costa was able to avoid prison time after Carson helped petition a federal judge for leniency.
That’s different from the position Carson took in 2013 as he prepared to launch his presidential campaign, saying those convicted of health care fraud should go to prison for at least a decade and be forced to forfeit “all of one’s personal possessions.”

At Costa’s 2008 sentencing hearing, Carson described the dentist as “one [of] my closest, if not my very closest friend.”


Carson and his wife make between $200,000 and $2 million a year through investments in a multimillion-dollar commercial real estate enterprise controlled by Costa, according to financial records Carson was required to file when entering the race to the White House.

Costa has also served on the board of Carson’s charity, the Carson Scholars Fund, and continues to lead the charity’s fundraising efforts in the Pittsburgh area. The charity provides $1,000 college scholarships to students in need.

Federal prosecutors charged Costa with acts of fraud committed over a nearly five-year period. Investigators determined that his practice charged more than 50 patients for procedures that had not been performed, resulting in more than $40,000 in fraudulent billings to insurance companies.

After Costa pleaded guilty, 40 of his family members, friends and patients wrote letters to the judge as character witnesses. Joining Carson in testifying on Costa’s behalf was the beloved former Pittsburgh Steelers running back Jerome Bettis.

AP continues:

Carson’s appeal for leniency toward Costa contradicts the draconian criminal penalties he called for in his 2013 political treatise, “America the Beautiful.” In his book, Carson wrote that anyone found guilty of health care fraud should face what he called the “Saudi Arabian Solution.”

“Why don’t people steal very often in Saudi Arabia?” Carson asked. “Obviously because the punishment is the amputation of one or more fingers. I would not advocate chopping off people’s limbs, but there would be some very stiff penalties for this kind of fraud, such as loss of one’s medical license for life, no less than 10 years in prison, and loss of all of one’s personal possessions.”


http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/corruption_ben_carson_profits_from_ties_with_convi cted_felon_20151112?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+Truthdig+Truthdig%253A+Dril ling+Beneath+the+Headlines

Anybody need more proof that megalomaniac fantasist Carson is in it for the same reason as Trump? To pimp up his brand and money-grubbing.

boutons_deux
11-13-2015, 06:52 AM
Ben Carson: Medical Fraud is Bad, Unless One of My Friends Does It


Ben Carson really, really hates medical fraud. Seriously:

"There would be some very stiff penalties for this kind of fraud," he wrote a few years ago, "such as loss of one's medical license for life, no less than ten years in prison, and loss of all of one's personal possessions."

Unless, that is, the fraudster happens to be Carson's best and oldest friend. In that case, you write a letter to the judge saying, "there is no one on this planet that I trust more than Al Costa."

And it worked.

Costa was a dentist who pleaded guilty to billing insurance companies for procedures he didn't perform, but in the end the judge sentenced him only to a year of house arrest in his 8,300-square-foot mansion.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/11/ben-carson-medical-fraud-bad-unless-one-my-friends-does-it

rmt
11-13-2015, 09:31 AM
Trump bashing Carson - he crossed the line though - Carson's story is about redemption - changing when he accepted Christ. Trump saying Carson's pathologic violence can't be changed - like child molester. This is gonna damage Trump - Christians won't like this.

boutons_deux
11-13-2015, 09:42 AM
"Carson's story is about redemption - changing when he accepted Christ"

holy shit, that's funny! :lol

boutons_deux
11-13-2015, 03:09 PM
http://mx2.politicususa.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/spb151112.jpg

boutons_deux
11-15-2015, 06:13 PM
Ben Carson Debunked: Inside His Made-Up West Point Story

In effect he was making up a story deliberately designed to show that not only could Ben Carson cut it in Detroit Junior ROTC as a military member; he could have been at West Point (a national institution) if he felt like it.

This has become part and parcel of his personal myth as evidenced by the multiple times the story has been repeated by him over the years (and especially in the past few months). It steals from the honor of those who actually get in to West Point, let alone those who graduate, to make up such a story. Right now the ghosts of more than two hundred years of USMA graduates should be rising from their graves and shaking in rage that someone would tell a story about how he could have been one of them if only he had wanted to, just to advance himself personally.

Ben Carson did not tell the truth about meeting General Westmoreland on Memorial Day. Perhaps he was confused. Today he is claiming that all of this was so long ago. Who can remember such details?

Are you kidding? Ben Carson wrote the book that started all of this in 1989 (it was published in 1990), just 20 years later. Carson could not remember where/when he met the most famous American general, the Chief of Staff of the entire US Army, just 20 years later? It appears unlikely in the extreme.

Because Carson welded the first and the second together when he wrote about it back in the '80s, he gave the impression that they were related. Was that intentional? I leave that for you to decide.

Does any of this matter? Yes. Actually, it does.

As I said, we often deal with issues of Stolen Valor such as Ben Carson perpetrated, but usually the stories are larger and more outrageous. Most of those stories, however, occur in bars and are merely designed to puff up the thief's reputation to the others drinking beside him, most of whom know nothing of the military and therefore can't check his story. Other times, Stolen Valor perps get caught because they screw up and go out, boasting of their actions in public, and get caught by those who know what they are hearing is bullshit.

This is one of those times. But this time a lot more than a little ego is on the line.

Carson did not use his story to cage a beer or sweet-talk a lady. No, he has used it to help launch his "brand" and then elevate that brand on to ever higher heights.

Remember that very first non-Carson retelling of the tale to a broad political audience, the one in National Review, the one which essentially helped launch him as a potential candidate? "Five Things You Didn't Know About Ben Carson," and that was number four, in February 2013. Since then he has repeated it again and again and again.

Ben Carson did, in fact, fabricate this story.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a39579/ben-carson-debunked-west-point/

boutons_deux
11-15-2015, 06:44 PM
Ben Carson: I will ban Syrian refugees because I have ‘big frontal lobes as opposed to other animals’
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carson-i-will-ban-syrian-refugees-because-i-have-big-frontal-lobes-as-opposed-to-other-animals/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

wow, I'm impressed.

That grifter braniac certainly has neuroanatomy nailed. I learn something every day from him.

boutons_deux
11-15-2015, 06:59 PM
Ben Carson Completely Self Destructs And Goes Full Blown Nutter On Fox News

Carson was asked four times by host Chris Wallace what his response to the Paris attacks would be if he were president, and he couldn’t answer, but the real crazy was yet to come.In response to the question about whether the US should accept refugees from Syria, Carson went on a rant about the human brain:

WALLACE: The Obama administration has said before that it would accept up to 10,000 Syrian refugees as part of the humanitarian crisis. We now learn that one of these attackers had a Syrian passport that indicated he had been part of the refugee flood into Europe in October. Would you continue that policy?

CARSON: Well, you know, as I’ve said all along, you know, bringing people into this country from that area of the world I think is a huge mistake. Because why wouldn’t they infiltrate them with people who are ideologically opposed to us? It would be foolish for them not to do that. So, we need to be very compassionate to understand that these people have been displaced and we should use our expertise and resources to help get them resettle over there, and to support them over there, but to bring them here under these circumstances is a suspension of intellect.

You know, the reason that the human brain has these big frontal lobes as opposed to other animals, because we can engage in rational thought processing, we can, you know, extract information from the past, the present, process it and project it into a plan. Animals, on the other hand, have big brain stems and rudimentary things, because they react. We don’t have to just react, we can think.

Carson took crazy to another level when he suggested getting into a shooting war with Russia in Syria:

WALLACE: Dr. Carson what happens if the Russians respond to that by shooting down one of our planes?CARSON: I would do that in conjunction with the Turkish forces along the Syrian/Turkish border where a huge number of those refugees located. It’s a humanitarian thing to try to provide them a safe haven for now.

WALLACE: But sir, if I may press my …

CARSON: And I would make sure that the Russians understood that we are going to do that.

WALLACE: If I may press my point, what do you do if – after we shoot down a Russian plane, they shoot down one of ours?

CARSON: If they violate it, we will, in fact, enforce it. And, you know, we’ll see what happened. You know, too, for us to always be backing down because we are afraid of a conflict, that’s not how we became a great nation, Chris.

WALLACE: But you’re talking about getting potentially into a shooting war with Russia over Syria?

CARSON: Well, if we established a no-fly zone and we make clear the rules, if they violate it, that’s why you have a no-fly zone. That’s the very definition of a no-fly zone. You can’t fly there.

Ben Carson was asked policy question about the kind of unexpected crisis that all presidents must deal with, and he showed that he is completely unfit for office.

Rambling about the size of the human brain is not answer to a question about continuing the policy of accepting Syrian refugees.

The idea that the United States could get into a shooting war with Russia to protect a no-fly zone in Syria was flat out insane.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/15/ben-carson-destructs-full-blown-nutter-fox-news.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

boutons_deux
11-17-2015, 05:37 PM
...

Nbadan
11-17-2015, 09:18 PM
Ben Carson Is Struggling to Grasp Foreign Policy, Advisers Say
Source: New York Times


Ben Carson’s remarks on foreign policy have repeatedly raised questions about his grasp of the subject, but never more seriously than in the past week, when he wrongly asserted that China had intervened militarily in Syria and then failed, on national television, to name the countries he would call on to form a coalition to fight the Islamic State.

Faced with increasing scrutiny about whether Mr. Carson — who leads in some Republican presidential polls — was capable of leading American foreign policy, two of his top advisers said in interviews with The New York Times that he had struggled to master the intricacies of the Middle East and national security and that intense tutoring was having little effect.

“Nobody has been able to sit down with him and have him get one iota of intelligent information about the Middle East,” Duane R. Clarridge, a top adviser to Mr. Carson on terrorism and national security, said in an interview. He also said Mr. Carson needed weekly conference calls briefing him on foreign policy so “we can make him smart.”


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/18/us/politics/ben-carson-is-struggling-to-grasp-foreign-policy-advisers-say.html

Wild Cobra was right...thanks quotas!

DMX7
11-18-2015, 02:25 PM
Ben Carson Is Struggling to Grasp Foreign Policy, Advisers Say
Source: New York Times




Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/18/us/politics/ben-carson-is-struggling-to-grasp-foreign-policy-advisers-say.html

Wild Cobra was right...thanks quotas!

His grasp of taxes and economics seems equally bad.

boutons_deux
11-19-2015, 06:44 AM
Ben Carson walks back Terri Schiavo comments

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson on Wednesday sought to walk back a controversial comment he made last week about the ethical and legal battles surrounding Terri Schiavo, the Florida woman who died in 2005 amid a protracted family dispute over keeping her alive in a vegetative state.

The retired neurosurgeon, who sits at the top of national polls of the GOP field but has built a reputation for being gaffe-prone, faced a swift backlash last week for saying the case was "much ado about nothing" during a campaign event in Orlando.

"I am steadfastly opposed to euthanasia. I have spent my entire career protecting life, especially the life of children," Carson told LifeSiteNews (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-ben-carson-says-his-terri-schiavo-statement-was-taken-out-of-cont) in a story published Wednesday. "I regret that my recent comments about Teri Schiavo have been taken out of context and misinterpreted."

"When I used the term 'much ado about nothing,' my point was that the media tried to create the impression that the pro-life community was nutty and going way overboard with the support of the patient," he added.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/18/ben-carson-walks-back-terri-schiavo-comments/

Trump and Carson! :lol

Repug base! :lol

boutons_deux
11-19-2015, 03:54 PM
Ben Carson Compares Some Syrian Refugees To 'Mad Dogs'Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson on Thursday compared the process of vetting Syrian refugees wishing to enter the U.S. to a parent protecting a child from a rabid dog.

"If there's a rabid dog running around in your neighborhood, you're probably not going to assume something good about that dog," Carson said during a press conference in Mobile, Ala.

"And you're probably going to put your children out of the way. That doesn't mean that you hate all dogs."

He said it was simply "putting your intellect into motion" to call for a strengthened screening process to weed out potential terrorists before letting more refugees into the country.

"We have to have in place screening mechanisms that allow us to determine who the mad dogs are," Carson said. "Quite frankly, who are the people who want to come in and hurt us and destroy us."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-refugees-rabid-dogs?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29


yawn, just another Repug demagogue campaigning, with a brain dead, racisit analogy, on the Paris tragedy to sucker in you racist, xenophobe, white supremacist, nativist, low-wage, low-info assholes.

Carson, Trump, etc know you assholes so well.

boutons_deux
11-22-2015, 01:30 PM
his entire "intellect" seems to revolve around political correctness

Ben Carson Goes Off The Deep End By Claiming Not Torturing People Is Political Correctness

STEPHANOPOULOS: Number one, he said we should bring back those enhanced interrogation techniques, which President Obama discontinued like waterboarding. Do you agree?

CARSON: I agree that there’s no such thing as political correctness when you’re fighting an enemy who wants to destroy you and everything that you have anything to do with. And I’m not one who is real big on telling the enemy what we’re going to do and what we’re not going to do.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But you would do that even though many consider waterboarding torture?

CARSON: As I said, I’m not real big on telling them what we would or would not do. I just don’t think that’s a — I don’t see where that accomplishes anything for us.Ben

Carson wants the American people to vote for him, but he isn’t going to tell voters what he is going to do if elected to be the next president.

One thing that is apparently clear to Carson though is that the Geneva Conventions and laws that prohibit torture are a form of political correctness.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/22/ben-carson-deep-claiming-torturing-people-political-correctness.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/22/ben-carson-deep-claiming-torturing-people-political-correctness.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

boutons_deux
11-22-2015, 04:04 PM
“This is the reason that the media is the only business protected by our Constitution :lol because they’re supposed to be objective and on the side of the people,” the former neurosurgeon lamented.

The United States Constitution applies equally to all American citizens regardless of their employment status.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carson-reporters-can-dig-dirt-on-me-because-they-are-only-business-protected-by-our-constitution/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
11-24-2015, 03:41 PM
Ben Carson tells anti-choice group: Abortion is like slavery, not ‘an issue of women’s rights’

upporting a woman’s right to choose was like supporting slavery.

Speaking at “The Gift of Life Banquet” fundraiser for First Choice Pregnancy Center in Las Vegas, Carson argued that the “culture of death” was accepted in America because of “peer pressure.”

“Someone has tried to make this into an issue of women’s rights,” the GOP hopeful told the crowd. “What about the baby? You know, it’s one of the most sacred relationships in the universe, a mother and that child inside of her. How have we become so distorted that we have managed to convince women that that baby inside of her is her enemy and that she has a right.”

Carson explained that he had lived in liberal cities like Baltimore and Detroit, which he called a “bastion of Democratic thought.”

“And I never actually liked the idea of abortion even though I was a liberal Democrat,” he said. “But I did believe in choice. I said, you know, I personally wouldn’t agree with it but anybody else can do what they want. I mean, why would I interfere with somebody else’s choice?”

The former neurosurgeon noted that he change his mind about abortion after realizing it was like “slavery.”

“I was thinking about slavery and I was thinking about the abolitionists, and I said, what if the abolitionists had said, ‘I don’t believe in slavery but anybody else can do whatever they want’?” Carson declared. “Where would we be today?”

“Slavery is a moral issue and so is abortion,” he insisted. “It’s a moral issue that we’re dealing with.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carson-tells-anti-choice-group-abortion-is-like-slavery-not-an-issue-of-womens-rights/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol this fellow's brain needs surgical intervention, it's totally fried.

DMX7
12-03-2015, 02:45 PM
NY TIMES: Ben Carson, Mispronouncing ‘Hamas,’ Fails to Impress Republican Jewish Group


Ben Carson, whose presidential campaign has been stymied with questions about his depth on foreign policy, addressed one of the most influential Republican Jewish organizations on Thursday but probably left few there with much confidence that his knowledge is growing.

He repeatedly mispronounced the name of the extremist group Hamas, saying something that sounded more like hummus.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/03/ben-carson-mispronouncing-hamas-fails-to-impress-republican-jewish-group/?module=WatchingPortal&region=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=thumb_square&state=standard&contentPlacement=1&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2Fpolitics% 2Ffirst-draft%2F2015%2F12%2F03%2Fben-carson-mispronouncing-hamas-fails-to-impress-republican-jewish-group%2F&eventName=Watching-article-click&_r=0

:lol

boutons_deux
12-18-2015, 02:30 PM
Ben Carson blasted North Korea for spending more on the military than the hungry. Has he looked at his own country?
News for Ben Carson: When it comes to prioritizing the military above all else, no one comes close to the U.S.
"Korea “ is in severe financial straits, and they have decided to use their resources to build their military, rather than to feed their people and to take care of the various humanitarian responsibilities that they have.”


http://www.salon.com/2015/12/18/ben_carson_blasted_north_korea_for_spending_money_ on_the_military_instead_of_the_hungry_has_he_looke d_at_his_own_country/

Since when does BK give a flying fuck about poor people in Korea, anyway?

boutons_deux
12-28-2015, 02:35 PM
Ben Carson Wants You to Know That He Has 67 Honorary Degrees. 67!

This is—and no, I'm not kidding—from presidential wannabe Ben Carson: (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ben-carson-on-the-brink-a-process-like-this-is-pretty-brutal/2015/12/27/d0c5c1bc-a9e1-11e5-9b92-dea7cd4b1a4d_story.html)

It’s discouraging to know that we’re at that stage in our country where people don’t care so much about the truth. :lol

It’s just what’s sensational, what’s the shiny object. It’s all “Who’s in the football game? Who’s on ‘Dancing With the Stars’? Who’s yelling the loudest?” And I’m not sure that’s what we need right now because we’ve got some real big problems in our country.


Yes, this is from the person who, to this day, has not uttered a single plainly true statement according to Politifact. (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ben-carson/)1 It's from the person who, along with Donald Trump, has been the ultimate shiny object in the Republican race. Then there's this:

When I was appointeddirector of pediatric neurosurgery, pediatric neurosurgery at [Johns] Hopkins wasn’t on the map. By 2008, it was ranked number one by U.S. News & World Report. A weak person doesn’t do that.

A weak person isn’t named one of 89 living legends by the Library of Congress on the occasion of its 200th anniversary.

A weak person isn’t selected by CNN andTime magazine as one of the 20 foremost physicians and surgeons in America. That was before they discovered that I’m conservative.

A weak person doesn’t have all of these honorary degrees.

Most people of accomplishment have one, maybe two or three honorary degrees at most. It’s the highest award that a university gives out.

I have 67.

That’s probably not indicative of a weak person who doesn’t get things done.


http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/12/ben-carson-wants-you-know-he-has-67-honorary-degrees-67

Holy Shit! Yourightwingnuts adore total assholes

pediatric neurosurgery doesn't qualify a person to be Presidentanymore than being a wealthy, predatory businessman, or a private equity hyena.

boutons_deux
12-29-2015, 03:17 PM
nothing but a grifter

Ben Carson doesn’t want to win: His campaign is all about cashing in — and that’s the problem

Carson has reached his real goal: Making money on the campaign trail by boosting his brand and giving paid speeches

Ben Carson’s grand political experiment is just about over. He’s plummeting in thepolls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html) and he’s all but finished in the Republican presidential race. He had a good run, though. For a man with no political knowledge or experience or ideas, he fared remarkably well. At one point, Carson was considered a frontrunner, trailing only Donald Trump. Now he’s a distant fourth place, well behind Trump, Ted Cruz, and Marco Rubio.

Don’t feel sorry for the good doctor, however. His campaign is only a failure if you assume his goal was to become president of the United States. But if you’ve followed Carson’s career for more than a few months, you know he’s more of an entrepreneur than a politician. And so his campaign has to be judged in that context.

As an entrepreneur, Carson has succeeded wildly. According to a new AP report (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ben-carson-paid-speeches), the doctor has been cashing in on the campaign trail, promoting his brand and giving paid speeches wherever he can:

“All of this is part of a well-honed enterprise that promotes Ben Carson – presidential candidate, political commentator, paidspeaker, author, neurosurgeon and champion of children, reading, and God. He has folded into Carson Enterprises his presidential campaign, which has excelled at fundraising, brining in almost $32 million through the end of September …That fundraising prowess continues, even as his poll numbers decline. His campaign manager, Barry Bennett, said Thursday they raised about $20 million since the beginning of October…Speaking fees over a nearly two-year period raked in $4.3 million. And his nonprofit continues to raise money.”

It’s important not to see Carson’s private financial gains as tangential to his campaign. It’s not as though he set out to run for president and happened to profit enormously as a result. On the contrary, his campaign was itself an entrepreneurial venture. Since announcing his candidacy, Carson has paraded around the country, selling books and giving paid speeches at charity events, corporate meetings, and various other organizations.

As the AP report notes, Carson’s book tour website “links to his official campaign website…and Carson’s book sales benefit significantly from his political rise. Since he declared his candidacy, more than 52,000 copies of versions of his signature book, ‘Gifted Hands,’ have sold.”

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/29/ben_carson_doesnt_want_to_win_his_campaign_is_all_ about_cashing_in_and_thats_the_problem/

the Repug Klown Kar PROVES how fucking stupid, ignorant, suckerable 10Ms of rightwingers are.

CosmicCowboy
12-29-2015, 05:10 PM
Boo is jealous.

CosmicCowboy
12-29-2015, 05:29 PM
Damn Republican whores getting paid to give speeches. Good thing Democrats don't do that.

RandomGuy
12-30-2015, 02:29 PM
nothing but a grifter

Ben Carson doesn’t want to win: His campaign is all about cashing in — and that’s the problem

Carson has reached his real goal: Making money on the campaign trail by boosting his brand and giving paid speeches

Ben Carson’s grand political experiment is just about over. He’s plummeting in thepolls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html) and he’s all but finished in the Republican presidential race. He had a good run, though. For a man with no political knowledge or experience or ideas, he fared remarkably well. At one point, Carson was considered a frontrunner, trailing only Donald Trump. Now he’s a distant fourth place, well behind Trump, Ted Cruz, and Marco Rubio.

Don’t feel sorry for the good doctor, however. His campaign is only a failure if you assume his goal was to become president of the United States. But if you’ve followed Carson’s career for more than a few months, you know he’s more of an entrepreneur than a politician. And so his campaign has to be judged in that context.

As an entrepreneur, Carson has succeeded wildly. According to a new AP report (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ben-carson-paid-speeches), the doctor has been cashing in on the campaign trail, promoting his brand and giving paid speeches wherever he can:

“All of this is part of a well-honed enterprise that promotes Ben Carson – presidential candidate, political commentator, paidspeaker, author, neurosurgeon and champion of children, reading, and God. He has folded into Carson Enterprises his presidential campaign, which has excelled at fundraising, brining in almost $32 million through the end of September …That fundraising prowess continues, even as his poll numbers decline. His campaign manager, Barry Bennett, said Thursday they raised about $20 million since the beginning of October…Speaking fees over a nearly two-year period raked in $4.3 million. And his nonprofit continues to raise money.”

It’s important not to see Carson’s private financial gains as tangential to his campaign. It’s not as though he set out to run for president and happened to profit enormously as a result. On the contrary, his campaign was itself an entrepreneurial venture. Since announcing his candidacy, Carson has paraded around the country, selling books and giving paid speeches at charity events, corporate meetings, and various other organizations.

As the AP report notes, Carson’s book tour website “links to his official campaign website…and Carson’s book sales benefit significantly from his political rise. Since he declared his candidacy, more than 52,000 copies of versions of his signature book, ‘Gifted Hands,’ have sold.”

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/29/ben_carson_doesnt_want_to_win_his_campaign_is_all_ about_cashing_in_and_thats_the_problem/

the Repug Klown Kar PROVES how fucking stupid, ignorant, suckerable 10Ms of rightwingers are.




That's sorta my theory about Trump. I think T is probably a bit surprised about how well he is doing.

boutons_deux
12-31-2015, 01:30 PM
Republican Carson's top aides resign: campaign

Two top aides in U.S. Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson's campaign have resigned, the campaign said on Thursday.

Communications director Doug Watts announced his and campaign ma:nager Barry Bennett's resignations effective immediately in a statement, saying they respect the retired neurosurgeon and have enjoyed helping him reach "top tier status" :lol in the crowded Republican field.

"We are proud of our efforts for Dr. Carson and we wish him and his campaign the best of luck," Watts wrote.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-carson-idUSKBN0UE17520151231?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews

boutons_deux
12-31-2015, 03:11 PM
Never Forget! :lol

http://a4.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/c_fill,fl_keep_iptc,g_faces,h_365,w_652/iitbj0xiqmy6pw22eyo3.jpg

boutons_deux
01-01-2016, 07:02 AM
Republican Carson's campaign manager, 20 staff quit


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-carson-idUSKBN0UE17520160101?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews

ElNono
01-01-2016, 01:23 PM
Seems like he lasted longer than the previous 9-9-9 token black candidate, tbh

boutons_deux
01-04-2016, 04:57 PM
Dees, like his new boss, is a strange figure in his own right, warning (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amid-call-religious-freedom-values-voter-speakers-slam-islam) Values Voter Summit attendees a couple of years ago that there are American cities that are home to “all Islamic sanctuaries … within which there are fundamentalist sleeper cells.” He specifically named Nashville, Tennessee, Lackawanna, New York, Greenville, North Carolina, and Dearborn, Michigan as these strongholds. “The enemy is within,” he warned.

Dees is also (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/values-voter-summit-common-core-not-climate-change-threatens-security) a Benghazi conspiracy theorist and a proponent of the idea that Common Core education standards are a national security threat.

Foreign Policy magazine profiled Dees (http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/10/who-is-the-man-behind-ben-carsons-foreign-policy-robert-dees-gop-republican/) a couple of months ago, noting that the retired general has “advocated for a national security strategy centered on Christian evangelism,” adding, “When it comes to terrorism, all Muslims – some 23.4 percent of the world’s population – are equally worthy of suspicion.”

Yep, say hello to a prominent presidential candidate’s brand new campaign manager.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/carson-picks-new-team-following-behind-the-scenes-chaos?cid=sm_fb_maddow

boutons_deux
01-07-2016, 02:34 PM
A-Hole Ben Carson Urges 5th Graders To Cast Stones At ‘Worst Student’

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Screen-Shot-2016-01-07-at-12.22.04-PM.png


Read more at http://wonkette.com/597667/a-hole-ben-carson-urges-5th-graders-to-cast-stones-at-worst-student#3Y15gES7rXLcVOd1.99

damn, you rightwingnuts really really support some truly shitty human beings.

CosmicCowboy
01-07-2016, 02:37 PM
:lmao

Kid must be Boutons level dumb!

boutons_deux
01-11-2016, 10:38 AM
tough luck, Benny Boy, you're too black (but your brand and griftin revenues lookin great). Have you tried basketball?

Government instability prompts support for lighter-skinned candidates, study shows
http://phys.org/news/2016-01-instability-prompts-lighter-skinned-candidates.html

Racist Repugs were NEVER going to elect any shade of AA melanin anyway, as their rampant racism against the mulatto President proves.

DMX7
01-11-2016, 10:40 AM
We picked Obama when things were falling apart at the scene.

boutons_deux
01-28-2016, 09:30 AM
Ben Carson’s Campaign Beset With Frustration, Disappointment and Grief

After surging to the top of the Iowa polls in the fall, Mr. Carson’s support has plummeted in recent months as scrutiny over his background and grasp of foreign policy intensified. The disarray was compounded by the sudden departures of his campaign leadership team and reports of misspent money. Then last week came the death of a campaign staff member, whose van flipped on an icy Iowa road, adding another layer of malaise to a once-promising presidential bid.


For Mr. Carson, the retired neurosurgeon seeking the Republican nomination, it is a daily struggle to stay upbeat and remain true to himself.

“It is much better to do what’s right and lose an election than to do what’s politically expedient and lose your soul,” :lol Mr. Carson said with a sense of resignation during a Tuesday night event that mixed a campaign pitch with a Christian prayer service.

“We Christians need to get on our knees and pray, and I mean, pray,” Marlene Stemler said. “My heart says, as a Christian, vote for Ben Carson (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/ben-carson-on-the-issues.html?inline=nyt-per).” :lol

He has also tried to find inspiration in tragedy. After pausing his campaign last week to mourn the death of one of his volunteers, Braden Joplin, Mr. Carson has been visiting his outposts in the state to lift the spirits of his grief-stricken team.“The death was hard on us,” Mr. Carson said in an interview after his rally at Heritage Assembly of God.

“They’re determined to make sure that the death was not in vain.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/us/politics/ben-carsons-campaign-beset-with-frustration-disappointment-and-grief.html

does Religion make people this stupid, or are stupid people attracted to Religion?

same question I ask about military people.

ElNono
02-07-2016, 01:12 PM
I think it's his time to step down of the race... he had his time as the token black candidate, and he can Palin his way to some book deals/Fox analyst, tbh

boutons_deux
02-14-2016, 10:21 AM
Carson? :lol 10Ms of (Facebook) Americans are so fucking stupid

see the "facebook leaders are lapping the field"

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/facebook-primary/?ex_cid=538fb

Blake
02-18-2016, 12:18 PM
"Misconceptions and blatant ignorance about Muslim Americans abound, and Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson doubled down on his own rhetoric Tuesday. He went so far as to call Muslim Americans "schizophrenic."

Breitbart News Daily*host Stephen Bannon asked Carson on Tuesday if American Muslims' religious values were at odds with their nation's political values,*Politico*reported.

"Only if they're schizophrenic," Carson said. "I don't see how they can do it otherwise, because you have two different philosophies," he added, later referring to Islam as a religion Muslim Americans "bought into" and arguing that the Prophet Muhammad was "in no way comparable to Jesus Christ."
...

http://news.yahoo.com/ben-carson-called-muslim-americans-162600831.html

Blake
02-18-2016, 12:21 PM
Now just need him to agree with Manny Pacquiao that gays are worse than animals and that should pretty much kill this retarded piece of shit's run.

CosmicCowboy
02-18-2016, 02:21 PM
"Misconceptions and blatant ignorance about Muslim Americans abound, and Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson doubled down on his own rhetoric Tuesday. He went so far as to call Muslim Americans "schizophrenic."

Breitbart News Daily*host Stephen Bannon asked Carson on Tuesday if American Muslims' religious values were at odds with their nation's political values,*Politico*reported.

"Only if they're schizophrenic," Carson said. "I don't see how they can do it otherwise, because you have two different philosophies," he added, later referring to Islam as a religion Muslim Americans "bought into" and arguing that the Prophet Muhammad was "in no way comparable to Jesus Christ."
...

http://news.yahoo.com/ben-carson-called-muslim-americans-162600831.html

In fairness, it is hard to reconcile Sharia law with the US Constitution and Bill of Rights

boutons_deux
02-18-2016, 02:29 PM
In fairness, it is hard to reconcile Sharia law with the US Constitution and Bill of Rights

Exactly can be said about the Bible humper's Old Testament.

CosmicCowboy
02-18-2016, 02:32 PM
Exactly can be said about the Bible humper's Old Testament.

check back when they issue the "New Sharia".

Blake
02-18-2016, 02:43 PM
check back when they issue the "New Sharia".

Jesus himself condones the laws of the Old Testament.

Preachers today only pick out the good parts of it tho...ignoring things like "gays shall be put to death"

...which would of course be at odds with current American values

spurraider21
02-18-2016, 06:09 PM
"Misconceptions and blatant ignorance about Muslim Americans abound, and Republican presidential hopeful Ben Carson doubled down on his own rhetoric Tuesday. He went so far as to call Muslim Americans "schizophrenic."

Breitbart News Daily*host Stephen Bannon asked Carson on Tuesday if American Muslims' religious values were at odds with their nation's political values,*Politico*reported.

"Only if they're schizophrenic," Carson said. "I don't see how they can do it otherwise, because you have two different philosophies," he added, later referring to Islam as a religion Muslim Americans "bought into" and arguing that the Prophet Muhammad was "in no way comparable to Jesus Christ."
...

http://news.yahoo.com/ben-carson-called-muslim-americans-162600831.html
carson is probably the worst candidate on the field, but he didnt call all muslim americans schizophrenic. he was specifically referring to muslims who abide by sharia law iirc

rmt
02-18-2016, 06:34 PM
Carson: There’s a difference between Muslims who accept America and accept our constitution and accept our ways and those who want to continue a different method of living and if we’re not sophisticated enough to understand that we will lose that war.

Bannon: Do you think that Muslims that are sharia-adherent can actually be part of a society, be integrated into a society where you have the rule of law, and you are a democratic republic, and you believe in a federal system, and you believe in the rule of law and the separation of church and state no matter what your religious beliefs are, do you think sharia-compliant Muslims can do that?

Carson: Only if they’re schizophrenic. I don’t see how they can do it otherwise, because they have two different philosophies boring at you, which [are]in contradistinction to each other. That would be very difficult. And you know, that’s why Teddy Roosevelt said what he said, he said you’re welcome to come here from any place and any religion as long as you accept our ways and you want to be American. If you don’t, stay where you are.

boutons_deux
02-18-2016, 06:41 PM
Carson, brain-addled Christian Taliban supremacist and garden-variety Muslim fearmonger, can't see that Muslims can, OPTIONALLY, obey Sharia where it doesn't conflict with American laws.

Does Carson have any objections to, see any problems with Christians following Christian law?

Mormons following Mormon law?

Jews following Jewish law?

spurraider21
02-18-2016, 06:48 PM
if christian law calls for stoning people who work on the sabbath...

and there is a distinction between sharia law and "jewish law" or "christian law." sharia law is an actual body of law. are there any countries that operate on "christian law" straight from the bible?

boutons_deux
02-18-2016, 06:56 PM
if christian law calls for stoning people who work on the sabbath...

and there is a distinction between sharia law and "jewish law" or "christian law." sharia law is an actual body of law. are there any countries that operate on "christian law" straight from the bible?

Jews don't have a "body of law"? :lol

Christians are committed to following the law of Bible? Some of them want to replace the Constitution and all American laws with the Declaration of Independence and the Bible, turning America in to a Christian theocracy much like corrupt royal/church power tandems of 100s of years ago in Europe, EXACTLY what the FFs wanted to forbid in USA.

spurraider21
02-18-2016, 06:59 PM
Jews don't have a "body of law"? :lol
what country's entire legal system is guided by the torah?


Christians are committed to following the law of Bible? Some of them want to replace the Constitution and all American laws with the Declaration of Independence and the Bible, turning America in to a Christian theocracy much like corrupt royal/church power tandems of 100s of years ago in Europe, EXACTLY what the FFs wanted to forbid in USA.
what country actually operates on biblical law

Blake
02-19-2016, 09:11 AM
I'd like to ask him if he thinks Old Testament adherent Christians can be integrated into society.

I'd bet cash he wouldn't call them schizophrenic

boutons_deux
02-19-2016, 09:18 AM
what country's entire legal system is guided by the torah?


what country actually operates on biblical law

why make it a FALSE country issue?

Are any Muslims proposing to replace all US law with sharia?

Because Christians are seriously proposing replace all US law with Ten Commandments, Bible, whatever other Christian bullshit they want to impose on non-Christians

In UK, Muslims can voluntarily submit to Sharia courts.

spurraider21
02-19-2016, 09:43 AM
Christians are seriously proposing replace all US law with Ten Commandments, Bible
link?

Blake
02-19-2016, 10:14 AM
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"Does the bible outweigh the constitution? "


Carson : err uhh derp it depends

Fucking garbage

spurraider21
02-19-2016, 12:30 PM
i'm sorry, is that him saying we should replace all US laws with the 10 commandments, bible, etc?

Chinook
02-19-2016, 01:11 PM
I don't hate Carson the way I thought I would after that bear quote came out. He's not getting close to the presidency, but I don't see him as being particularly bad as far as the field goes.

boutons_deux
02-19-2016, 01:17 PM
I don't see him as being particularly bad as far as the field goes.

... meaning he's shitty, so inexperienced, so fucked up, at least by religion and egomania, that he's on par with the rest of Repug Klown Kar.

rmt
02-19-2016, 03:36 PM
I don't hate Carson the way I thought I would after that bear quote came out. He's not getting close to the presidency, but I don't see him as being particularly bad as far as the field goes.

He's the only one who's honest and has integrity. The rest will do anything to win.

Chinook
02-19-2016, 03:41 PM
He's the only one who's honest and has integrity. The rest will do anything to win.

I actually thought his quote about Sharia-following Muslims made sense. I feel like the people who are saying that he's calling Muslims schizos are being disingenuous. Why people let sound bites and pared-down quotes influence them is beyond me. Again, though that bear quote is still an issue for me.

boutons_deux
02-19-2016, 03:42 PM
link?

"christian replace constitution with ten commandments, bible"

one hit:

http://www.theocracywatch.org/biblical_law2.htm

Blake
02-19-2016, 03:43 PM
i'm sorry, is that him saying we should replace all US laws with the 10 commandments, bible, etc?

Not all, but some

boutons_deux
02-19-2016, 03:43 PM
He's the only one who's honest and has integrity. The rest will do anything to win.

you're a addle-brained as he is. :lol Carson's intellect seems to be circumscribed by surgery and the Bible, beyond which he is one dumbfuck with governmental experience.

Blake
02-19-2016, 03:45 PM
He's the only one who's honest and has integrity.

:lol

rmt
02-19-2016, 03:56 PM
Christians are seriously proposing replace all US law with Ten Commandments, Bible, whatever other Christian bullshit they want to impose on non-Christians


But he said the country should “never” have a theocracy and that he’d have a problem with supporting a Christian who believes in establishing one.

“It has nothing to do with being a Muslim,” he said. “That was the question that was specifically asked. If the question had been asked about a Christian and they had said, you know, ‘would you support a Christian who believes in establishing a theocracy?’ I would have said no. And then some people would say, ‘he’s against Christians.’ No — you have to be able to look at the context.

“The context is, as I said before that question was asked, anybody of any religious faith whatsoever — if they embrace American values and they place our Constitution at the top level above their religious beliefs — I have no problem with them,” he said. “I said that. It’s on the record. On NBC — on ‘Meet the Press.’ Did anybody pick up on that? Of course not. Because that wasn’t a juicy story, but that’s exactly what I said. That’s exactly what I meant.

“I don’t care what a person’s religious beliefs are or what their religious heritage is — if they embrace American culture, if they embrace our Constitution and are willing to place that above their religious beliefs, I have no problem with them,” he said. “I said that. Why is it impossible for people to hear that?”

spurraider21
02-19-2016, 03:59 PM
"christian replace constitution with ten commandments, bible"

one hit:

http://www.theocracywatch.org/biblical_law2.htm
and this represents the views of the republican party?

:lol theocracywatch

rmt
02-19-2016, 04:06 PM
you're a addle-brained as he is. :lol Carson's intellect seems to be circumscribed by surgery and the Bible, beyond which he is one dumbfuck with governmental experience.

Actually, I'd like to be as addle-brained as he is. To be an expert in surgery and live a Christian life might sound terrible to you, but not to me.

Blake
02-19-2016, 05:37 PM
Actually, I'd like to be as addle-brained as he is. To be an expert in surgery and live a Christian life might sound terrible to you, but not to me.

A blathering Christian surgeon as president sounds terrible to me

boutons_deux
02-19-2016, 05:49 PM
expert in surgery and live a Christian life

.... are not qualifications to be President. :lol

He's self-promoting grifter, ignorant outside of these two areas.

rmt
02-19-2016, 07:26 PM
A blathering Christian surgeon as president sounds terrible to me

I've already said he's unelectable. I meant in general - not as president. My bad.

Blake
02-19-2016, 08:04 PM
I've already said he's unelectable. I meant in general - not as president. My bad.

I know what you meant. I'm just saying out loud what I think of him