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Fabbs
09-23-2015, 10:55 PM
To get us started:
https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12049656_957087081051013_1392168113658655921_n.png ?oh=9a343b9cfa6c005244049325fc975c03&oe=56A84A52

Fabbs
09-23-2015, 10:57 PM
The *anti gov't spending* Repugnatins
Notice also Billy Clinton vs St Ronnie and Bushit #1
http://b-i.forbesimg.com/rickungar/files/2013/10/MW-AR658_spendi_20120521163312_ME11.jpg

Pelicans78
09-23-2015, 11:07 PM
Republicans are no different than Democrats when it comes to big spending.

Fabbs
09-23-2015, 11:07 PM
http://www.cps-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/bush-vs-obama-jobs-stimulus.jpg

cd021
09-24-2015, 04:25 AM
I Miss W :cry

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 04:52 AM
Republicans are no different than Democrats when it comes to big spending.

false. They are WORSE than Dems. St Ronnie doubled the national debt, dubya tripled it.

Wild Cobra
09-24-2015, 06:11 AM
To get us started:
https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12049656_957087081051013_1392168113658655921_n.png ?oh=9a343b9cfa6c005244049325fc975c03&oe=56A84A52

I have a friend who's family owns cherry orchards if you would like to do some more picking.

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 06:28 AM
I have a friend who's family owns cherry orchards if you would like to do some more picking.

Bogues Wars Started and Botched

Obama zero

shrub 2

US military lives, bodies, minds WASTED

Obama zero

shrub 5000+ and counting

pgardn
09-24-2015, 07:19 AM
The use of Stunet to ruin and make the Iranians change out their centrifuges was developed under Bush...

We could go on. It is always convenient to label good trends as your accomplishments, and pawn off bad trends as your predecessor's fault. Boots loves this game. Some of the good numbers are probably the fault/ accomplishment of neither as individuals. Congress, the Fed, the rest of the WORLD.... they actually play a significant role.

DarrinS
09-24-2015, 07:25 AM
Did Bush cause the financial crisis of 2007-2008?

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 08:11 AM
Did Bush cause the financial crisis of 2007-2008?

dubya's DoJ shut down 19 states' attempt to stop predatory (mortgage) lending, so, yes.

DarrinS
09-24-2015, 08:14 AM
dubya's DoJ shut down 19 states' attempt to stop predatory (mortgage) lending, so, yes.

And the Dems shut down the Fanny/Freddy regulator.

hater
09-24-2015, 08:16 AM
Did Bush cause the financial crisis of 2007-2008?

Is the sky blue?

DarrinS
09-24-2015, 08:20 AM
Is the sky blue?

Lol, simpleton

hater
09-24-2015, 08:25 AM
Is water wet?

Any other questions?

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 08:25 AM
And the Dems shut down the Fanny/Freddy regulator.

F & F deposit $50B/year into the general fund, is why even the Repugs refused to privatize F & F.

DMX7
09-24-2015, 10:23 AM
To get us started:
https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12049656_957087081051013_1392168113658655921_n.png ?oh=9a343b9cfa6c005244049325fc975c03&oe=56A84A52

That looks familiar from last week's Real Time with Bill Maher.

Ignignokt
09-24-2015, 10:36 AM
To get us started:
https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12049656_957087081051013_1392168113658655921_n.png ?oh=9a343b9cfa6c005244049325fc975c03&oe=56A84A52

If a large segment of the workforce has stopped looking for work, wouldn't the labor participation rate be a better indicator? Just a question.

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 11:06 AM
If a large segment of the workforce has stopped looking for work, wouldn't the labor participation rate be a better indicator? Just a question.

http://www.businessinsider.com/labor-force-participation-rate-falls-to-38-year-low-2015-7

better indicator of what?

Th'Pusher
09-24-2015, 12:13 PM
If a large segment of the workforce has stopped looking for work, wouldn't the labor participation rate be a better indicator? Just a question.

You realize baby boomers are retiring in droves now, right?

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 01:47 PM
You realize baby boomers are retiring in droves now, right?

retired people are considered part of participating laborers?

pgardn
09-24-2015, 02:33 PM
Is water wet?

Any other questions?

Is gasoline wet?

ChumpDumper
09-24-2015, 02:35 PM
Dude only has a little over a year left to destroy America. You think he would've been further along by now.

mingus
09-24-2015, 03:27 PM
There were more people looking for jobs/in work force under Bush by quite a bit. What other statistic is left out? What about urban employment rates? Debt?

Not a Bush defender, he fucked this country up the ass in foreign policy so badly and unforgivably. But cherry picking is cherry picking

Trill Clinton
09-24-2015, 03:47 PM
637660853286907904

Trill Clinton
09-24-2015, 03:48 PM
i'm not an obama fan but he's done a much better job than both bush's

ChumpDumper
09-24-2015, 04:01 PM
637660853286907904Not terribly weird tbh. Kinda cute.

Ignignokt
09-24-2015, 04:45 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/labor-force-participation-rate-falls-to-38-year-low-2015-7

better indicator of what?

people actually employed, or the administration's ability to get american's jobs.

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 04:56 PM
people actually employed, or the administration's ability to get american's jobs.

what? a righwingnut thinking it's govt's job to create jobs (and wealth)??

Don't you losers say ONLY private enterprise, and tax-avoiding/evading "job creators", create jobs and wealth?

Ignignokt
09-24-2015, 05:00 PM
what? a righwingnut thinking it's govt's job to create jobs (and wealth)??

Don't you losers say ONLY private enterprise, and tax-avoiding/evading "job creators", create jobs and wealth?

the burden of proof is on you. If you are making the assertion that the current administration is doing a good job at creating jobs, you have to prove your case.

Splits
09-24-2015, 07:16 PM
I have a friend who's family owns cherry orchards if you would like to do some more picking.

Please do provide the counter argument. Cherry pick all you want. Let's see some numbers.

Th'Pusher
09-24-2015, 07:44 PM
retired people are considered part of participating laborers?
Old people are dropping out of the labor force effectively lowering the participation rate.

TeyshaBlue
09-24-2015, 07:48 PM
Please do provide the counter argument. Cherry pick all you want. Let's see some numbers.

Probably absurdly easy to take the chart apart but Fabbs couldn't be bothered to link the source.

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 08:25 PM
Old people are dropping out of the labor force effectively lowering the participation rate.

it's a rate, a %age, not number. people retire, they reduce the total number of the labor force. and many boomers were screwed through their prime earning years, the pas 35+ years, by stagnate income and high health insurance, health costs, so Ms they are working well past retirement age.

Th'Pusher
09-24-2015, 08:36 PM
it's a rate, a %age, not number. people retire, they reduce the total number of the labor force. and many boomers were screwed through their prime earning years, the pas 35+ years, by stagnate income and high health insurance, health costs, so Ms they are working well past retirement age.

From the article you posted...

Part of that drop was in response to the economic crisis that started in 2008, and part of the drop comes from demographic factors like the aging of the US population and the retirement of the baby boomers.

Th'Pusher
09-24-2015, 08:38 PM
it's a rate, a %age, not number. people retire, they reduce the total number of the labor force. and many boomers were screwed through their prime earning years, the pas 35+ years, by stagnate income and high health insurance, health costs, so Ms they are working well past retirement age.

More: http://qz.com/286213/the-chart-obama-haters-love-most-and-the-truth-behind-it/

boutons_deux
09-24-2015, 08:39 PM
From the article you posted...

Part of that drop was in response to the economic crisis that started in 2008, and part of the drop comes from demographic factors like the aging of the US population and the retirement of the baby boomers.

how can a retired person be considered part of the labor force for the labor participation rate? they are voluntarily OUT of the labor force.

Jacob1983
09-24-2015, 11:06 PM
How many drone strikes have happened under Obama? Is Gitmo closed? Is the Patriot Act still in effect?

Fabbs
12-05-2015, 08:43 AM
How many drone strikes have happened under Obama? Is Gitmo closed? Is the Patriot Act still in effect?
A whole lot of bad guys taken out.

No it's still open.

Yes they still cheat. Are getting fattened up at 9-1 for another playoff loss.