Article: The Sinking Legacy of Kobe Bryant

[JohnnyMax]

http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/239283/The-Sinking-Legacy-Of-Kobe-Bryant

A random poll conducted on the RealGM Forums asked: “Out of the following active players, which are most likely to finish their career as Top 10 All-Time players?”

The choices were LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Stephen Curry, Kobe Bryant, Karl-Anthony Towns, Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Tim Duncan or Other. These choices gave a range of players at the beginning, middle and the end of their careers. Voters were given the option to choose up to three players of who they deemed most worthy of Top 10 status.

LeBron James was the runaway leader; followed by Tim Duncan who also received a healthy chunk of the votes. Third place was split between Anthony Davis and Kobe Bryant, but both behind James and Duncan by a very wide margin. Being that the RealGM Forums are made up of some of the most passionate and knowledgeable followers of basketball in the world, and the voting was so decisive, it is fair to say that a large percentage of people no longer consider Kobe Bryant a top-10 player in basketball history.

[Joseph Kony]

I post on RealGM a lot and there a fuckload of retards on the GB tbh

[Clipper Nation]

Role players don't have legacies.

[Infinite_limit]

Anthony Davis :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Role players don't have legacies.
This. That's why no one will remember Cedric Maxwell, Kawhi Leonard, and Andre Igguodala

[Killakobe81]

http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/239283/The-Sinking-Legacy-Of-Kobe-Bryant

A random poll conducted on the RealGM Forums asked: “Out of the following active players, which are most likely to finish their career as Top 10 All-Time players?”

The choices were LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Stephen Curry, Kobe Bryant, Karl-Anthony Towns, Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Tim Duncan or Other. These choices gave a range of players at the beginning, middle and the end of their careers. Voters were given the option to choose up to three players of who they deemed most worthy of Top 10 status.

LeBron James was the runaway leader; followed by Tim Duncan who also received a healthy chunk of the votes. Third place was split between Anthony Davis and Kobe Bryant, but both behind James and Duncan by a very wide margin. Being that the RealGM Forums are made up of some of the most passionate and knowledgeable followers of basketball in the world, and the voting was so decisive, it is fair to say that a large percentage of people no longer consider Kobe Bryant a top-10 player in basketball history.

Lol real gm is no better than here and recency bias is onvious in those poll results. Great thread!

[Raven]

as I said in the past, by the end of his career, we'll barely consider him a top 20 and after a few years, barely a top 30.

[Koolaid_Man]

Kobe was the Realest nigga since MJ to play in the league..its that simple...

[Clipper Nation]

This. That's why no one will remember Cedric Maxwell, Kawhi Leonard, and Andre Igguodala
Another shit take from TheGreatTranny.

[z0sa]

There's no room for second fiddles in the top 10.

[Killakobe81]

as I said in the past, by the end of his career, we'll barely consider him a top 20 and after a few years, barely a top 30.

And it is just a shitty of a take then as it is now ...

[TheGreatYacht]

lol doesnt mention porker pig
I know I didn't. I mentioned role players

[z0sa]

Kobes legacy has further sinking to do before it is right where it belongs and right where high IQ minds have had it for many years now.

[DMC]

Lol real gm is no better than here and recency bias is onvious in those poll results. Great thread!
Onvious? New word?

[hater]

Realgm and most knowledgeable in the same sentence :lmao :lol :lol :lol

[DAF86]

I don't get the butthurt by some Lakers fans. Thinking Kobe Bryant isn't a top 10 player of all-time is a pretty reasonable thought, in fact it's the correct thought, imho.

[TheGreatYacht]

if porker isnt a role player, then what is he?
The head of the snake. - Popovich

[SuperCam]

This. That's why no one will remember Cedric Maxwell, Kawhi Leonard, and Andre Igguodala


this :tu


Though that first and last name weren't carried by their PG, tbh

[LittleCriminal]

Im ecstatic to know this will be kobes last year...
That and it will be over either before (injury) or once the playoffs start. Good riddance!

[apalisoc_9]

Role players don't have legacies.

[Reck]

This. That's why no one will remember Cedric Maxwell, Kawhi Leonard, and Andre Igguodala

Role players dont win mvps or put teams on their backs either. Looks like you're wrong.

[Mitch]

Role players don't have legacies.

http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/12/31/07/2724335/5/628x471.jpg

[ElNono]

didn't he retire already?

[DMC]

The hype surrounding him has been the same since before he won the last 2 rings. He was given the crown prior to DNA testing, and Jerry is back and it's a negative.

[namlook]

http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/12/31/07/2724335/5/628x471.jpg

Exactly. If anyone has created fake legacies it's the Spurs retiring jerseys of multiple players that are undeserving of such an honor.

[Ashy Larry]

http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/12/31/07/2724335/5/628x471.jpg

Exactly. If anyone has created fake legacies it's the Spurs retiring jerseys of multiple players that are undeserving of such an honor.


Boston Celtics type BS ...... lol @ Real GM, Johnson, Bowen and one kidney Elliott. Not a Bean ball washer but he’s probably top ten especially being the second best two guard of all time.

[HarlemHeat37]

Kobe is unquestionably top 10 IMO, but it would be tough to argue against his legacy taking a hit with the embarrassment of the past few years and the emergence of new media that doesn't protect his image..

[DMC]

Avery Johnson, Bowen and Elliott have no business in the Spurs Rafters. You don't retire a guy's number who you traded.

[RD2191]

Lebron ain't top 10.

[HemisfairArena]

Avery Johnson, Bowen and Elliott have no business in the Spurs Rafters. You don't retire a guy's number who you traded.

Only 3 Spurs players should have retired numbers in the rafters,,,Gervin, Robinson, and Duncan,,,its not rocket science,,

[HemisfairArena]

Glad to see Kobricks lack of legacy catching up to him,,,,anyone with any sort of basketball IQ knew he was an overrated sidekick. No Shaq. No Gasol. No Chance.

[DMC]

Only 3 Spurs players should have retired numbers in the rafters,,,Gervin, Robinson, and Duncan,,,its not rocket science,,
Duncan is still playing. Makes some fucking sense sometimes.

[HemisfairArena]

Duncan is still playing. Makes some fucking sense sometimes.

No shit, princess,,,just stating when Duncan stops playing he should be up there with only Gervin and Robinson.

[DMC]

No shit, princess,,,just stating when Duncan stops playing he should be up there with only Gervin and Robinson.

That's not what you said. Are you fucking high?

[HemisfairArena]

Kobe was the Realest nigga since MJ to play in the league..its that simple...

Okafor

[HemisfairArena]

That's not what you said. Are you fucking high?

Are you stupid?

[DMC]

Are you stupid?
,,,,,blather spit choke blather,,,,,yap yap yap,,,,,,

That's you

[FromWayDowntown]

Introducing KOBE: A measure of shot quality (http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/09/28/introducing-kobe-a-measure-of-shot-quality/)



You might notice I’ve added two columns capturing a metric I’ve10 named SHAC, or “SHot Adjusted Capability,” which is simply the difference between the player’s expected points per shot as measured by KOBE and their actual points per shot for the season. SHAC has been included on both a per shot and total basis.

[xellos88330]

Lol real gm is no better than here and recency bias is onvious in those poll results. Great thread!

It just means that Kobe isn't even in the recently category. He is a has-been now.

[RsxPiimp]

Duncan is still playing. Makes some fucking sense sometimes.

:lmao

[Kool Bob Love]

Duncan is still playing. Makes some fucking sense sometimes.

Hemi isn't wrong DMC. Duncan jersey should already be up there. He's a living legend.

[pgardn]

Hemi isn't wrong DMC. Duncan jersey should already be up there. He's a living legend.

Its just that he wrote retired.

Duncan obviously at THE TOP of the list.

And agree with those 3.

Question: Should Ginobili join those 3?

Question: Should Parker join those 3?

Imo the worst up there is Moore.

[BD24]

Its just that he wrote retired.

Duncan obviously at THE TOP of the list.

And agree with those 3.

Question: Should Ginobili join those 3?

Question: Should Parker join those 3?

Imo the worst up there is Moore.
I think Gino should be hanging up there when he retires. Not sure about Parker though.

[HemisfairArena]

DMC knew what I meant,,,I'll make sure and call him out when he makes a mistake which is frequently,,,,

[LakerHater]

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[Splits]

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:lmao

[Kool Bob Love]

http://i.imgbox.com/yZvFMjKR.gif

:lol

[apalisoc_9]

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[spurraider21]

Role players don't have legacies.


Kobe is unquestionably top 10 IMO, but it would be tough to argue against his legacy taking a hit with the embarrassment of the past few years and the emergence of new media that doesn't protect his image..
the apple fell far from the tree