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Solid D
10-01-2015, 01:00 PM
I am not a personal friend of George, but I've sat with the Bums and any Spurs fan is a friend of George. May God bless his family and friends. This is posted on Spurs.com PLEASE READ.

http://www.nba.com/spurs/big-george-was-baseline-bums-ringleader-and-friend-spurs

Solid D
10-01-2015, 01:16 PM
If someone with admin priv. would pin this to the top of the board for a week, that would be a great tribute to this man.

Title should be "human being of the highest order."

SupremeGuy
10-01-2015, 01:19 PM
RIP fellow Spurfan. :toast

hater
10-01-2015, 01:28 PM
Rip

Was he a poster here?

TheDoctor
10-01-2015, 01:35 PM
Rip

Was he a poster here?

Spurtacular's last post on Jimmer's thread was 20 hours ago. Coincidence?

Proxy
10-01-2015, 01:36 PM
RIP

baseline bum
10-01-2015, 01:37 PM
Sad to hear about George, he was an amazing guy. Dude's brisket was legendary, the players used to come out to the Bums' BBQs for it and to hang with George. Nicest guy in the world too, one time on this site he saw me talking about how great his brisket was and offered to make me some over PM, but I was in LA at the time. I was talking to George Gervin one time and his face just lit up when I brought up George Valle and the Bums. The Bums had such great relationships with the players in the 80s and George was probably the biggest reason why. When I was a kid and in the Bums I used to talk to him before a lot of games and we'd always be talking about when David Robinson would be coming, how ridiculous the team was going to be with him and Alvin, and so on. The Spurs just lost probably their greatest fan. The Spurs games never felt the same without his giant Texas flag before the fourth quarter.

RIP George, it was a blast watching games with you.

Solid D
10-01-2015, 01:49 PM
Sad to hear about George, he was an amazing guy. Dude's brisket was legendary, the players used to come out to the Bums' BBQs for it. Nicest guy in the world too, one time on this site he saw me talking about how great his brisket was and offered to make me some over PM, but I was in LA at the time. I was talking to George Gervin one time and his face just lit up when I brought up George Valle and the Bums. The Bums had such great relationships with the players in the 80s and George was probably the biggest reason why. When I was a kid and in the Bums I used to talk to him before a lot of games and we'd always be talking about when David Robinson would be coming, how ridiculous the team was going to be with him and Alvin, and so on. The Spurs just lost probably their greatest fan. The Spurs games never felt the same without his giant Texas flag before the fourth quarter.

RIP George, it was a blast watching games with you.

Awesome comments! :tu

Silver&Black
10-01-2015, 01:49 PM
RIP

baseline bum
10-01-2015, 01:53 PM
Rip

Was he a poster here?

George did post here, but I think it was back when this site was FullSportPress. I don't think he has posted here in many years, and he mostly lurked I think.

ElNono
10-01-2015, 02:04 PM
RIP

MarCowMar
10-01-2015, 02:27 PM
“I was over at the Marriott, sitting with Utah coach-general manager Frank Layden and Jazz announcer Hot Rod Hundley and all that bunch, and someone said, 'Why are you sitting talking to these guys?” Valle said to the Denver Post in 1985. "I said the ballgame's over, and these are my friends."

Class.

rastaspur
10-01-2015, 03:00 PM
RIP. Sounds like a great guy and person.

When someone of his caliber dies he should be remembered. Hopefully someone picks up his sword and carries on to fill the shoes left vacant.

I will do my small part as well. No more Parker is fat comments. That's not something this class act would ever say. RIP george

RD2191
10-01-2015, 03:22 PM
Man, seems like people are going younger and younger. RIP

TheGreatYacht
10-01-2015, 03:47 PM
RIP

Robz4000
10-01-2015, 04:17 PM
RIP

DJR210
10-01-2015, 04:56 PM
what the fuck.. came here to offer my condolences to baseline bum, and it's some other shit

FkLA
10-01-2015, 07:54 PM
Seems like he was one of those really cool fat guys who's good nature is infectious. Most of us know someone like that. RIP.

btw how do you go about joining the bums, baseline bum?

Harry Callahan
10-01-2015, 07:57 PM
I remember seeing Big George as a new Spurs fan at the Hemisfair Arena - good times back in the day. 64 seems a lot younger to me now days.

Kool Bob Love
10-01-2015, 07:58 PM
RIP.

Harry Callahan
10-01-2015, 08:02 PM
The Baseline Bums actually had friendships with the players and coaches when they made a lot less money. Nowdays the players have "better" things to do rather than hanging with fans and knocking a few beers back.

baseline bum
10-01-2015, 08:03 PM
Seems like he was one of those really cool fat guys who's good nature is infectious. Most of us know someone like that. RIP.

btw how do you go about joining the bums, baseline bum?

You got me, I think now you have to do community service or something. Back in the 80s you just had to be a bum.

baseline bum
10-01-2015, 08:15 PM
The Baseline Bums actually had friendships with the players and coaches when they made a lot less money. Nowdays the players have "better" things to do rather than hanging with fans and knocking a few beers back.

Yeah, back then I used to talk to the players, rebound for them while they were shooting around, we'd bring them cakes in the locker room on their birthdays, stuff like that. I remember one time Kurt Rambis and James Worthy invited my dad and I to go grab some beers after a game. Of course he had to say no because I needed to get my ass in bed. :lol

I can't remember if it changed with Larry Brown in 1988 or when DRob, Sean, and TC came in 1989. I mean it was 100% understandable, the Spurs were becoming contenders again and they didn't need distractions from us, and that 1989-90 season was an amazing time to be a bum: the Spurs finally had that franchise bigman they had been looking for since 1973.

FkLA
10-01-2015, 08:32 PM
You got me, I think now you have to do community service or something. Back in the 80s you just had to be a bum.

Ah, damn I'll have to look into it. I've always thought it would be pretty badass to be a bum, and I'm planning on getting season tickets in a couple years so might try to get in. Hopefully Rique is gone by then tbh.

random21
10-01-2015, 08:43 PM
RIP. Spurs organization did the right thing by honoring somebody that supported them for many years!

spurs10
10-01-2015, 09:07 PM
RIP George :flag:

urunobili
10-01-2015, 09:45 PM
My condolences to his family, friends and beloved ones

wildbill2u
10-01-2015, 10:08 PM
It's a shame that the link to the NBA.com story above didn't have a picture of Big George waving the Texas flag and keeping the fans in the game. I used to date a lady who was in the Bums. I called her to make sure she knew about his passing, and she said there was a picture in the SA News today on the front page of the Sports section with George and some of the original Bums. Because I was dating her, I was sort of an honorary Bum and went to a lot of their parties, made the bus trips to Houston and Dallas and of course the legendary annual Bar-b-Q where Big George could strut his stuff, cooking for all. So I got to know him some and he was one of the best Spur fans you can imagine.

My favorite Big George story is about the time the Nets and the Spurs got into a real gang fight on the court of the old Hemisfair Arena in Game 4 in the playoffs. Back in the day, the game was a lot rougher. Picks would literally put a player on the floor and elbows flew. For some reason that particular night, tempers really flared when Rich Jones got a little rough on a Spur and a fight broke out. Then another and another as players emptied the benches. Little knots of players would mix it up, the refs and coaches would pull them apart and then they'd go at it again. This wasn't a 10 second deal. It seemed to go on and on.

Big George had time to come down from the Bums section and wanted to get in on the action. When he got down to the walkway around the court, George threw a cup of beer on Rich Jones. Now Rich had been the Spurs enforcer before he got traded to the Nets. He not only looked mean, he played mean, protecting his teammates and closing down the lane on opposing drivers. So throwing the beer on Rich was not a good idea. Which George realized when Jones turned around and started for him. George did the only sensible thing. He took off up the stairs, apparently thinking that height would save him, but Jones was chasing right behind him. The stairs between sections in the old Arena went straight up from the floor to the nosebleed seats at a steep angle. I was in pretty fair shape in those days and let me tell you a trip from the floor to the top was exhausting

Now imagine this 300 pound fan with his pants slipping so his crack was showing, pounding up those stairs with a snarling 6'8" professional athlete in great shape chasing him. And then a miracle occurred. Big George began pulling away. The entire Arena crowd was watching by this time and laughing like hell. About halfway up, Jones quit and gestured something at George's retreating back. I think Jones was thrown out of the game when order was restored. George made it back to the welcoming arms of the Bum as a hero. The Nets came back to SA for the 6th game and Jones was getting threats so the Nets didn't even let him suit up. They kept a starter out of the game which we won. I always thought that win was on account of Big George's Miracle Run.

RIP, Big Fella.

Nets, Spurs to revive old ABA rivalry - tribunedigital-chicagotribune
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2003-06-01/sports/0306010397_1_aba-championship-american-basketball-association-nba-finals

baseline bum
10-01-2015, 10:16 PM
It's a shame that the link to the NBA.com story above didn't have a picture of Big George waving the Texas flag and keeping the fans in the game. I used to date a lady who was in the Bums. I called her to make sure she knew about his passing, and she said there was a picture in the SA News today on the front page of the Sports section with George and some of the original Bums. Because I was dating her, I was sort of an honorary Bum and went to a lot of their parties, made the bus trips to Houston and Dallas and of course the legendary annual Bar-b-Q where Big George could strut his stuff, cooking for all. So I got to know him some and he was one of the best Spur fans you can imagine.

My favorite Big George story is about the time the Nets and the Spurs got into a real gang fight on the court of the old Hemisfair Arena in Game 4 in the playoffs. Back in the day, the game was a lot rougher. Picks would literally put a player on the floor and elbows flew. For some reason that particular night, tempers really flared when Rich Jones got a little rough on a Spur and a fight broke out. Then another and another as players emptied the benches. Little knots of players would mix it up, the refs and coaches would pull them apart and then they'd go at it again. This wasn't a 10 second deal. It seemed to go on and on.

Big George had time to come down from the Bums section and wanted to get in on the action. When he got down to the walkway around the court, George threw a cup of beer on Rich Jones. Now Rich had been the Spurs enforcer before he got traded to the Nets. He not only looked mean, he played mean, protecting his teammates and closing down the lane on opposing drivers. So throwing the beer on Rich was not a good idea. Which George realized when Jones turned around and started for him. George did the only sensible thing. He took off up the stairs, apparently thinking that height would save him, but Jones was chasing right behind him. The stairs between sections in the old Arena went straight up from the floor to the nosebleed seats at a steep angle. I was in pretty fair shape in those days and let me tell you a trip from the floor to the top was exhausting

Now imagine this 300 pound fan with his pants slipping so his crack was showing, pounding up those stairs with a snarling 6'8" professional athlete in great shape chasing him. And then a miracle occurred. Big George began pulling away. The entire Arena crowd was watching by this time and laughing like hell. About halfway up, Jones quit and gestured something at George's retreating back. I think Jones was thrown out of the game when order was restored. George made it back to the welcoming arms of the Bum as a hero. The Nets came back to SA for the 6th game and Jones was getting threats so the Nets didn't even let him suit up. They kept a starter out of the game which we won. I always thought that win was on account of Big George's Miracle Run.

RIP, Big Fella.

Nets, Spurs to revive old ABA rivalry - tribunedigital-chicagotribune
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2003-06-01/sports/0306010397_1_aba-championship-american-basketball-association-nba-finals

Oh my god, that is the funniest thing I have ever heard. I can just picture George doing that in my head right now. :lmao

baseline bum
10-01-2015, 10:22 PM
Spurs' Baseline Bums Just 120 Pro Basketball Fans Having Fun (http://articles.latimes.com/1985-04-28/sports/sp-21523_1_baseline-bums)
April 28, 1985|TERRY FREI | Denver Post

SAN ANTONIO, Tex. — They're loud, doggedly persistent and at times utterly tasteless.

They're bums.

Whether they're the member of the zoning board, the vice-squad captain, the short-order cooks, the nurses, or the co-owner of the hardware store, every last one of them sitting in section 20 in HemisFair Arena's northwest corner is a bum.

Don't believe it? Want to give the matronly nurse in the third row the benefit of the doubt?

She'll pull out her membership card and prove it.

She's one of about 120 certified, numbered and notorious Baseline Bums.

When you're one of the San Antonio Spurs' end-zone regulars, you get the card, cut-rate tickets, the occasional chance to wave the big Texas flag that hangs over the railing, a section of your very own--and part of a tradition that began when the American Basketball Assn.'s Dallas Chaparrals moved to San Antonio and gave the city its first major-league franchise.

The Baseline Bums are the friendly folks who hung then-Denver coach Larry Brown in effigy after he said the only thing good about San Antonio was the guacamole. "The ironic thing about it," says George Valle, the hardware store owner and one of the Bums' ringleaders, "was that when we hung him over the dressing-room door, the dummy had the same color pants and shirt Larry Brown had on that night. We didn't have any idea what he would be wearing, but we got it right."

When Chicago guard Quintin Dailey was playing his first game in San Antonio after pleading guilty to assaulting a nursing student, one of the Bums wore a nurse's uniform and ran on the floor--where another Bum "attacked" him-her.

After the home of Los Angeles center Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was gutted by fire, destroying his collection of jazz records and other valuable artifacts, the Bums proudly displayed melted records the next time the Lakers came to town.

"Jabbar was always badmouthing the Spurs and the Bums," says Valle. "But he's not a hustler. One time, he got hurt and we just razzed him something fierce.

"Two years ago, when Denver played here in the playoffs, Dan Issel went down with a hurt knee. When he got up, we gave him a standing ovation. That's one thing the Bums appreciate, hard work. We admire him for the way he plays. If he's on the court, he's not going to loaf on you, like Jabbar does."

Away from the court, the Bums have legendary, twice-yearly barbecues; run toys for tot campaigns and canned food drives; and warm up for the games as seriously as the players in saloons near the arena.

Yes, the Bums can be cruel. But, for the most part, they're just having fun. "They're only vicious in the verbal sense," says Nuggets assistant coach Allan Bristow, the former San Antonio forward and assistant coach who became an honorary Bum by going through the time-honored initiation: "You say something in Spanish, drink a shot of tequila and get an honorary Bums T-shirt, which I wear proudly."

Above all, and above the visiting-team entrance, they're always there. And they've been there since 1973.

Founders Larry Braun and David Boyle had a similar group of rabble-rousers, and ire-raisers, at the games of baseball's minor-league San Antonio Missions in 1972. The next year, the general manager of the Missions--John Begzos--moved into the front office of the city's new basketball team, and Braun and Boyle brought the Bums with them. Begzos sold them their seats for $1 apiece.

Twelve years and a 600% price hike later, the Bums still haunt the corner. The membership requirement is that a Bum must attend 80% of the home games and be a "vocal Spurs fan," says Valle.

These days, Richard Elizondo and Rudy Hettler run the organization. At least to visiting teams, Valle is the most visible of the Bums, not only because of his physique--he is, well, rotund--but because he is a regular in the bar of the hotel across from the arena, where most of the visiting teams stay. And the same man who helps lead the jeers for the visitors shares a drink or three with them afterwards.

On the final weekend of the regular season, for example, Valle became an adopted member of the Utah Jazz traveling party.

"I was over at the Marriott, sitting with (coach-general manager) Frank Layden and Hot Rod (Hundley, the announcer) and all that bunch," says Valle, "and someone said, 'Why are you sitting talking to these guys?'

"I said the ballgame's over, and these are my friends."

Valle also remains close to Bristow. The two men take fishing and hunting trips together in the offseason. Valle remains a big fan of Denver coach Doug Moe, the Spurs' charter NBA coach. Valle's partner in his Devine, Texas, hardware store is New Jersey coach Stan Albeck, who was with the Spurs from 1981-83.

"Allan Bristow's like a brother to me, but during the game, I hate him as much as the players," says Valle. "When Doug Moe was here, he was a good fan of the Bums. He'd drink a few beers with us."

Moe and Bristow aren't the only reasons this series ever so slightly divides the Bums' loyalties. The Nuggets' owner, of course, is San Antonio businessman Red McCombs, a former partner in the Spurs. McCombs used to tell the bartender in the Lone Star Pavilion across the street from the HemisFair Arena to give the Bums all the beer they wanted, and he would pick up the tab. "By game time," says Bristow, "they'd all be primed and ready." Or if the Bums found themselves shut out of team functions by some higher-up ("I used to crash them, but they ruined it for me one year by inviting me," said Valle), McCombs would either wave them in or tell the bartender to take care of the Bums.

Buy beer for a Bum, and you've got a friend for life.

baseline bum
10-01-2015, 10:41 PM
Nets, Spurs to revive old ABA rivalry - tribunedigital-chicagotribune
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2003-06-01/sports/0306010397_1_aba-championship-american-basketball-association-nba-finals

Oh man, when I was reading the article I posted about the bum who dressed up as a nurse, ran onto the court, and got "beaten down" by another bum I said to myself that it had to be Leon in the nurse's uniform, and sure enough the article you posted confirmed it was him. :lmao

baseline bum
10-01-2015, 10:48 PM
Here's the pic of George waving the Texas flag from the Express News article:

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/41/20/53/8719061/14/920x1240.jpg

wildbill2u
10-02-2015, 10:20 PM
Here's the pic of George waving the Texas flag from the Express News article:

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/41/20/53/8719061/14/920x1240.jpg
Thanks for postiing this. I can see some familiar faces and of course, Mom, Marie and her sister Janice. Those were the days my friend, I thought they'd never end...

wildbill2u
10-02-2015, 10:23 PM
Oh man, when I was reading the article I posted about the bum who dressed up as a nurse, ran onto the court, and got "beaten down" by another bum I said to myself that it had to be Leon in the nurse's uniform, and sure enough the article you posted confirmed it was him. :lmao

Been a long time. Was Leon the Bum with real black hair and black horn rim glasses. If he's the guy I'm describing he was batshit crazy at games.

baseline bum
10-02-2015, 11:11 PM
Been a long time. Was Leon the Bum with real black hair and black horn rim glasses. If he's the guy I'm describing he was batshit crazy at games.

Leon is the dude on the left. He was the funniest bum by far. When Chris Mullin got out of the Betty Ford clinic he dressed up as a beer. :lol

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/34/24/01/7422073/3/960x540.jpg

davidbowie
10-03-2015, 07:10 AM
please keep posting old pics and stories. they are tremendous.

seeing him wave that flag is forever burned into my memory from back when i used to go to games

i wish i was a bum in the 80's :depressed

RIP BIG DAWG

Harry Callahan
10-03-2015, 03:08 PM
Thanks for the info WildB and baseline bum.

Coach Moe, Allan Bristow, and guys like that were certainly down to earth people. Coach Moe was really a hoot - the NBA was a much smaller less commercialized universe back in the 70s and early 80s.

I think everyone remembered Big George after attending a Spurs game.

A live band - "Sound of the Spurs"

Cotton Eyed Joe at the end of the 3rd quarter? Good times as a kid.

baseline bum
10-03-2015, 04:31 PM
Coach Moe was really a hoot - the NBA was a much smaller less commercialized universe back in the 70s and early 80s.


Speaking of Doug Moe :lol

tyJ7zrCBHoo

Harry Callahan
10-03-2015, 04:53 PM
[QUOTE=baseline bum;8207658]Speaking of Doug Moe :lol

Wow! That was unvarnished stuff. Thanks! That's what I call cussin' :flag:

wildbill2u
10-03-2015, 09:55 PM
I used to hang out with George Karl & Coby Dietrich. This is a George Karl story about Doug Moe. They were playing out of town and one of the referees that always seemed to have in for the Spurs (Jess Kersey maybe) was making bad call after bad call. Moe kept hollering at him from the bench, but that only increased the bad calls.

Finally Moe had had enough. He. went out on the court and dropped the FU bomb. The referee Teed him up and told him one more word and he was out of the game. Moe replied "Fuck You" The ref pointed at the locker room and Moe said, "Fuck You". Another T. By this time the assistant coaches were dragging Moe off the court, but he tore away from them, looked back and hollered "Fuck You" again Another T. The coaches finally got him to walk away off the court and into the tunnel leading to the locker rooms and everyone heard a ghostly shout of "Fuck You" that rang out from nowhere. The Spurs players were laughing so hard they could hardly play and every so often someone on the bench would cover his mouth with his hand and another "Fuck You" wafted into the arena.

phxspurfan
10-03-2015, 10:55 PM
Speaking of Doug Moe :lol

tyJ7zrCBHoo

nice...



RIP too. No idea about the real old school Baseline Bums but seems like good people. And good times.

sammy
10-04-2015, 06:33 AM
RIP George Valle! He was the Bums! I noticed he wasn't at the games and he was missed! Prayers for his family!

xellos88330
10-04-2015, 07:50 AM
Seems like he was one of those really cool fat guys who's good nature is infectious. Most of us know someone like that. RIP.

btw how do you go about joining the bums, baseline bum?

The Baseline Bums usually have a table set up looking for new members. IIRC you have to purchase season tickets and be open and flexible with your schedule to help with community functions etc.

milkyway21
10-04-2015, 09:43 PM
REST in PEACE. :(

Frank Dux
10-05-2015, 10:33 AM
He was buddies with my old man. RIP to the big guy.

99 Problems
10-06-2015, 07:44 AM
Great stories.

rjv
10-06-2015, 03:42 PM
RIP. Sounds like a great guy and person.

When someone of his caliber dies he should be remembered. Hopefully someone picks up his sword and carries on to fill the shoes left vacant.

I will do my small part as well. No more Parker is fat comments. That's not something this class act would ever say. RIP george

This.

Aggie Hoopsfan
10-07-2015, 12:54 AM
Spurs' Baseline Bums Just 120 Pro Basketball Fans Having Fun (http://articles.latimes.com/1985-04-28/sports/sp-21523_1_baseline-bums)
April 28, 1985|TERRY FREI | Denver Post

SAN ANTONIO, Tex. — They're loud, doggedly persistent and at times utterly tasteless.

They're bums.

Whether they're the member of the zoning board, the vice-squad captain, the short-order cooks, the nurses, or the co-owner of the hardware store, every last one of them sitting in section 20 in HemisFair Arena's northwest corner is a bum.

Don't believe it? Want to give the matronly nurse in the third row the benefit of the doubt?

She'll pull out her membership card and prove it.

She's one of about 120 certified, numbered and notorious Baseline Bums.

When you're one of the San Antonio Spurs' end-zone regulars, you get the card, cut-rate tickets, the occasional chance to wave the big Texas flag that hangs over the railing, a section of your very own--and part of a tradition that began when the American Basketball Assn.'s Dallas Chaparrals moved to San Antonio and gave the city its first major-league franchise.

The Baseline Bums are the friendly folks who hung then-Denver coach Larry Brown in effigy after he said the only thing good about San Antonio was the guacamole. "The ironic thing about it," says George Valle, the hardware store owner and one of the Bums' ringleaders, "was that when we hung him over the dressing-room door, the dummy had the same color pants and shirt Larry Brown had on that night. We didn't have any idea what he would be wearing, but we got it right."

When Chicago guard Quintin Dailey was playing his first game in San Antonio after pleading guilty to assaulting a nursing student, one of the Bums wore a nurse's uniform and ran on the floor--where another Bum "attacked" him-her.

After the home of Los Angeles center Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was gutted by fire, destroying his collection of jazz records and other valuable artifacts, the Bums proudly displayed melted records the next time the Lakers came to town.

"Jabbar was always badmouthing the Spurs and the Bums," says Valle. "But he's not a hustler. One time, he got hurt and we just razzed him something fierce.

"Two years ago, when Denver played here in the playoffs, Dan Issel went down with a hurt knee. When he got up, we gave him a standing ovation. That's one thing the Bums appreciate, hard work. We admire him for the way he plays. If he's on the court, he's not going to loaf on you, like Jabbar does."

Away from the court, the Bums have legendary, twice-yearly barbecues; run toys for tot campaigns and canned food drives; and warm up for the games as seriously as the players in saloons near the arena.

Yes, the Bums can be cruel. But, for the most part, they're just having fun. "They're only vicious in the verbal sense," says Nuggets assistant coach Allan Bristow, the former San Antonio forward and assistant coach who became an honorary Bum by going through the time-honored initiation: "You say something in Spanish, drink a shot of tequila and get an honorary Bums T-shirt, which I wear proudly."

Above all, and above the visiting-team entrance, they're always there. And they've been there since 1973.

Founders Larry Braun and David Boyle had a similar group of rabble-rousers, and ire-raisers, at the games of baseball's minor-league San Antonio Missions in 1972. The next year, the general manager of the Missions--John Begzos--moved into the front office of the city's new basketball team, and Braun and Boyle brought the Bums with them. Begzos sold them their seats for $1 apiece.

Twelve years and a 600% price hike later, the Bums still haunt the corner. The membership requirement is that a Bum must attend 80% of the home games and be a "vocal Spurs fan," says Valle.

These days, Richard Elizondo and Rudy Hettler run the organization. At least to visiting teams, Valle is the most visible of the Bums, not only because of his physique--he is, well, rotund--but because he is a regular in the bar of the hotel across from the arena, where most of the visiting teams stay. And the same man who helps lead the jeers for the visitors shares a drink or three with them afterwards.

On the final weekend of the regular season, for example, Valle became an adopted member of the Utah Jazz traveling party.

"I was over at the Marriott, sitting with (coach-general manager) Frank Layden and Hot Rod (Hundley, the announcer) and all that bunch," says Valle, "and someone said, 'Why are you sitting talking to these guys?'

"I said the ballgame's over, and these are my friends."

Valle also remains close to Bristow. The two men take fishing and hunting trips together in the offseason. Valle remains a big fan of Denver coach Doug Moe, the Spurs' charter NBA coach. Valle's partner in his Devine, Texas, hardware store is New Jersey coach Stan Albeck, who was with the Spurs from 1981-83.

"Allan Bristow's like a brother to me, but during the game, I hate him as much as the players," says Valle. "When Doug Moe was here, he was a good fan of the Bums. He'd drink a few beers with us."

Moe and Bristow aren't the only reasons this series ever so slightly divides the Bums' loyalties. The Nuggets' owner, of course, is San Antonio businessman Red McCombs, a former partner in the Spurs. McCombs used to tell the bartender in the Lone Star Pavilion across the street from the HemisFair Arena to give the Bums all the beer they wanted, and he would pick up the tab. "By game time," says Bristow, "they'd all be primed and ready." Or if the Bums found themselves shut out of team functions by some higher-up ("I used to crash them, but they ruined it for me one year by inviting me," said Valle), McCombs would either wave them in or tell the bartender to take care of the Bums.

Buy beer for a Bum, and you've got a friend for life.

Damn. Sad news. Time to win six.

BatManu20
10-07-2015, 01:45 AM
Sounds like he was a good dude. RIP..

Biernutz
10-07-2015, 02:17 AM
Still remember him waving that Texas flag in the first row over the visitors
court tunnel entry at the old HemisFair arena.