View Full Version : NBA's new breed of forwards are a bunch of Divas
Kawhitstorm
10-04-2015, 03:30 AM
-Paul George is already saying he isn't cut out to play the 4 position only after one pre-season game
-KD doesn't like playing small ball 4 & gets manhandled in the post by guards
-Lebron doesn't want to guard players his own size
-Bosh is 6'11" / 240 but wants to play like a small forward
-LMA doesn't want to play center
-Love doesn't play any defense but complains when he gets benched
-Blake/Ibaka act like tough guys but get punked by everyone
Kawhi/Draymond Green are the only new breed of forwards that have a blue collar mentality.
kobyz
10-04-2015, 05:21 AM
Can't put Draymond and Kawhi on the same breed, Matt Barnes would not have happened to Draymond...
DeRozan m8
10-04-2015, 05:36 AM
Kawhi > Draymond.
By a mile too tbh
spursparker9
10-04-2015, 06:31 AM
Draymond was exposed in the Finals
YGWHI
10-04-2015, 06:54 AM
-Paul George is already saying he isn't cut out to play the 4 position only after one pre-season game
After West departure, the "logical" move for Bird and Vogel was to play George at PF, but like I said before, I have my doubts about his post-game. Also, George may has a good reason to not play 4, it's not the best, coming from a broken leg injury, to have to deal with bigger power fowards in the paint.
Bird makes me laugh when he says about George's comments "Paul doesn't make the decisions around here"...after West's interviews, we know how toxic is the franchise.
-KD doesn't like playing small ball 4 & gets manhandled in the post by guards
He doesn't like but OKC small ball spreading the floor and launching threes with Ibaka as center, is a dangerous lineup. It helps Westbrook penetrations and create more space for their 1-3 pick-and-roll.
Godbama
10-04-2015, 11:23 AM
basketball these days blahblahblahblahblahblah toughness blahblahblahblahblahblah
SuperCam
10-04-2015, 11:38 AM
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Kawdiva big timing the media, being an autistic fuck to little children, talking about me-first MVP awards, smh :depressed
HarlemHeat37
10-04-2015, 11:46 AM
^^ This shtick is really painful and way too recycled, tbh..
OP's points are nitpicking, though, along with "get off my lawn" shit:lol..nothing tops Scottie Pippen refusing to enter the game because the final play wasn't ran for him, perfect portrayal of the divas and criminals of the 90s..
tholdren
10-04-2015, 12:21 PM
-Paul George is already saying he isn't cut out to play the 4 position only after one pre-season game
-KD doesn't like playing small ball 4 & gets manhandled in the post by guards
-Lebron doesn't want to guard players his own size
-Bosh is 6'11" / 240 but wants to play like a small forward
-LMA doesn't want to play center
-Love doesn't play any defense but complains when he gets benched
-Blake/Ibaka act like tough guys but get punked by everyone
Kawhi/Draymond Green are the only new breed of forwards that have a blue collar mentality.
hahahahahah.
KL new breed of forward who can't back down a defender and get a bucket. Real Blue collar. Mid-range jumper, check, corner three, check, able to bang inside, not quite.
ElNono
10-04-2015, 12:30 PM
Surprised to read criticism of forwards and Carmelo is not on the list, tbh
Clipper Nation
10-04-2015, 12:31 PM
Draymond is a huge flopper and disappeared in the Finals, tbh.
apalisoc_9
10-04-2015, 12:36 PM
Every era has multiple divas tbh...
You have to remember these dudes were awkward dudes in HS without much money..So when they get the money and fame, it's goes out of control.
Kawhi grew up in an average family...he wasn't poor
He also had a bunch of genuine friends in HS..Grew up as a normal introverted kid.
Not sure about Draymond.
Sean Cagney
10-04-2015, 01:12 PM
Can't put Draymond and Kawhi on the same breed, Matt Barnes would not have happened to Draymond...
Yeah but does Draymond Green have a Finals MVP playing against Lebron James? I would say you can put them in the same breed and Kawhi is better.
Draymond is a huge flopper and disappeared in the Finals, tbh.
He is not on Kawhi's level that is for sure. Finals MVP >>>>>>> Disapearing in the finals.
SuperCam
10-04-2015, 01:39 PM
hahahahahah.
KL new breed of forward who can't back down a defender and get a bucket. Real Blue collar. Mid-range jumper, check, corner three, check, able to bang inside, not quite.
this :tu
Matt Barnes... now that's blue collar
UNT Eagles 2016
10-04-2015, 01:49 PM
Surprised to read criticism of forwards and Carmelo is not on the list, tbh
Carmelo literally fell off the map in the last 2 years. Like, who the fuck is that?
Raven
10-04-2015, 02:26 PM
meh
Gladney to see you
10-04-2015, 02:34 PM
Jabari just prefers eating.
Spurtacular
10-04-2015, 02:49 PM
The league is full of more soft forwards than I ever recall.
UNT Eagles 2016
10-04-2015, 03:44 PM
did he get hurt when he fell?
yep, he got AIDS
Kawhitstorm
10-04-2015, 04:59 PM
Surprised to read criticism of forwards and Carmelo is not on the list, tbh
Carmelo actually GUARDED D-West in the 2013 postseason & didn't complain about it unlike LeBron.
Kawhitstorm
10-04-2015, 05:07 PM
^^ This shtick is really painful and way too recycled, tbh..
OP's points are nitpicking, though, along with "get off my lawn" shit:lol..nothing tops Scottie Pippen refusing to enter the game because the final play wasn't ran for him, perfect portrayal of the divas and criminals of the 90s..
Pippen refusing to enter the game had nothing to do w/ what was going on the court (not wanting to guard anyone or play out of his natural position). He was legitimately upset like any other leader of a team that he didn't get the ball after carrying the team.
It's not the kids, it's the coaches who aren't pop. And remember before pop there was Jerry Sloan who lasted until a certain cancerous pg made him hang it up. One day, if pop coaches too long he'll get his own derron.
We can already see kawhi being petty in public. If he went to a big market that'd be multiplied by a thousand. So not to slight kawhi, out argue that his abilities aren't uncommon, but credit should be on pop and co for making him a quasi star. So yeah, the culture of the game is changing. The NBA bred this by establishing stars over teams. Owners established this by scapegoating coaches for bad performance
Kawhitstorm
10-04-2015, 05:36 PM
It's not the kids, it's the coaches who aren't pop. And remember before pop there was Jerry Sloan who lasted until a certain cancerous pg made him hang it up. One day, if pop coaches too long he'll get his own derron.
We can already see kawhi being petty in public. If he went to a big market that'd be multiplied by a thousand. So not to slight kawhi, out argue that his abilities aren't uncommon, but credit should be on pop and co for making him a quasi star. So yeah, the culture of the game is changing. The NBA bred this by establishing stars over teams. Owners established this by scapegoating coaches for bad performance
I agree w/ you on this a 100%. Lebron is basically the Queen of the whole movement.
YGWHI
10-04-2015, 05:44 PM
hahahahahah.
KL new breed of forward who can't back down a defender and get a bucket.
You're basically saying his post moves are mediocre and he has zero ability to post up...when his post-up game is elite, a huge part of his offensive repertoire?
hahahahaha
SAGirl
10-04-2015, 06:04 PM
You're basically saying his post moves are mediocre and he has zero ability to post up...when his post-up game is elite, a huge part of his offensive repertoire?
hahahahaha
He is a good midrange shooter, but he doesn't draw fouls at a good enough rate, which hurts him bc if he doesn't get it going early, he can put up low scoring nights, roleplayer level nights. He settles for jumpshots too often, sometimes when his defender is not on the level to really be able to contain him if he was determined to get his, you know what I mean? His decision making is still evolving.
YGWHI
10-04-2015, 06:13 PM
We can already see kawhi being petty in public.
He said "I don't do the media" during non-obligated pressers and that's petty...of course..he's Marshawn Lynch.
a quasi star
:lol
Since when top 10-15 players are not stars?
YGWHI
10-04-2015, 06:31 PM
He is a good midrange shooter, but he doesn't draw fouls at a good enough rate
Highest fouls drawn rate of his career last season. Obviously he doesn't get enough respect from refs but the media attention and his great performances will help to get calls.
He settles for jumpshots too often, sometimes when his defender is not on the level to really be able to contain him if he was determined to get his, you know what I mean?
There were some reasons for that:
-he has developed a strong mid-j game, when those shots are falling are a deadly weapon
-the congested space under the rim with Tim and Tiago in the paint.
YGWHI
10-04-2015, 06:40 PM
He is a good midrange shooter, but...
Anyway, my comment was about his post-up game, which is one of the best parts of his offensive arsenal.
tholdren
10-04-2015, 09:06 PM
Anyway, my comment was about his post-up game, which is one of the best parts of his offensive arsenal.
BWAHHAHAHAHAHAH - just no. IF this were true he could control pace, he cannot. Which is why he sucks in clutch situations, he would rather shoot a jumper. And I don't blame him, since his jumper is better than his post game.
HarlemHeat37
10-05-2015, 07:55 AM
I haven't checked to confirm, but I'm 90% sure tholdren wanted Splitter, Green and Leonard to all be benched during the 2014 playoff run, tbh(3 of the 6 best players during the title run):lol..not exactly the best judge of players, par for the course for old fans, though..
YGWHI
10-05-2015, 07:58 AM
:lol
YGWHI
10-05-2015, 08:32 AM
BWAHHAHAHAHAHAH - just no. IF this were true he could control pace, he cannot. Which is why he sucks in clutch situations, he would rather shoot a jumper. And I don't blame him, since his jumper is better than his post game.
Once he was fully recovered, San Antonio was registering 1.1ppp out of Kawhi pick and rolls, 1.06 ppp in isolation situations, and 1.2 ppp out of post-ups.
Yep...horrible post-up game.
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