Beisbol playoffs

[lefty]

I think I saw somebody move

[apalisoc_9]

I think I saw somebody move

:lol

[2pac > Kobe]

rangers gone win the championship cuh

[Splits]

:lmao

http://i.imgur.com/SRYTata.png

Holy shit.

:lol :rollin:rollin :lol

Who could possibly spend 5 hours watching nothing?

:lmao American Cricket

[lefty]

:lmao



Who could possibly spend 5 hours watching nothing?

54.4 years old white christians can spend days staring at walls, so it's not really surprising

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol lefty is on fire today, tbh..

I did watch some of the playoffs, though, can't lie..

[RD2191]

I think I saw somebody move

:lmao

[Reck]

:lol lefty is on fire today, tbh..

I did watch some of the playoffs, though, can't lie..

It would be more impressive if he himself didn't watch it. :lol

[spurraider21]

:lmao clayton kuckshaw

[AlexJones]

Definitely one of the least eventful postseason in recent years tbh. Pitching is just too good

[Splits]

Definitely one of the least eventful postseason in recent years tbh. Pitching is just too good

:lol "pitching"

[King Emmanuel]

:lol fat fucks trying to feel important
:lol wanting to feel like they are ATHLETES :cry
:lol wanting to feel like they areproficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise
:lol making money off of other fatasses that pay to watch this shit
:lol fatasses self-inserting as these fatasses who self-insert as real non-fatass athletes

[Reck]

:lol fatasses self-inserting as these fatasses who self-insert as real non-fatass athletes

That literally made no sense, asshole.

[King Emmanuel]

:lol fatgots

[Jodelo]

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao

http://i.imgur.com/SRYTata.png

Holy shit.

:lol :rollin:rollin :lol

Who could possibly spend 5 hours watching nothing?

:lmao American Cricket
Holy shit :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

652600760086233088

[td4mvp2k]

:lol sports without using your hands

[Jodelo]

652600760086233088

:lmao

:lolProfessional
:lolAthlete

[Splits]

652600760086233088

:lmao us cricket is worse than world cricket

[InRareForm]

Kershaw 1-6 postseason

[baseline bum]

:lmao clayton kuckshaw

:lmao Holy fuck this faggot is worthless in the postseason. I can't think of an NBA equivalent; he'd have to be LeBron in the regular season and Richard Jefferson in the playoffs.

[Pelicans78]

I wonder how many Futbol players can hit a baseball out of the infield or throw harder than 80 mph. Most Futbol players are generally weak in their upper bodies.

[TheGreatYacht]

I wonder how many Futbol players can hit a baseball out of the infield or throw harder than 80 mph. Most Futbol players are generally weak in their upper bodies.
Beisbol players are generally strong in their abdomen..

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol sports without using your hands

http://youtu.be/ZDlh6Z60HN4

:lol this 16yr old kid who hasn't even played professional yet is more athletically gifted than Beisbol's finest

[td4mvp2k]

:lol athleticism in kickball... very beta tbh

[313]

:lmao clayton kuckshaw

:lmao

[313]

I watched a little bit of the games i bet on but usually if the Tigers are out, I don't watch

[Pelicans78]

Beisbol players are generally strong in their abdomen..

Nah, baseball players are stronger than Futbol players across the board. Futbol players are some of the weakest athletes in sports.

[lefty]

I think I saw somebody move

Nevermind, it was a fan who was stretching after waking up from his nap.

[lefty]

I wonder how many Futbol players can hit a baseball out of the infield or throw harder than 80 mph. Most Futbol players are generally weak in their upper bodies.

I wonder how many snoozeball players can run for 90 minutes

[Pelicans78]

http://youtu.be/ZDlh6Z60HN4

:lol this 16yr old kid who hasn't even played professional yet is more athletically gifted than Beisbol's finest

Nah, Lorenzo Cain is as athletic as most Futbol players.

MJ is one of the GOAT athletes ever and struggled as a minor league player.

[td4mvp2k]

Nevermind, it was a fan who was stretching after waking up from his nap.ya its called the 7th inning :tu

[Pelicans78]

I wonder how many snoozeball players can run for 90 minutes

So Futbol players are basically marathon runners playing with a ball. Weak as fuck otherwise.

[td4mvp2k]

reason why kickball is the weakest sport in murica :hat

[lefty]

So Futbol players are basically marathon runners playing with a ball. Weak as fuck otherwise.

:lol ur superior athletes need steroids to hit that fucking ball

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol ur superior athletes need steroids to hit that fucking ball
:lol running straight on a lined square

[td4mvp2k]

:lol games ending in ties

[Pelicans78]

:lol ur superior athletes need steroids to hit that fucking ball

That was 10 years ago. The game has changed. Defense, speed, and power pitching is the norm even though home runs went up from last season. Teams like the Yankees which rely on HRs are becoming relics.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol fat cucks eating hot dogs and taking naps while they watch CC Sabathia chew tobacco for 5 hours

[td4mvp2k]

:cry I got shin bruise I need stretcher :cry

[TheGreatYacht]

http://youtu.be/fucyXv78WQw

:lmao fans don't even give a fuck about what's going on in the pitch.. They just came for the churros and hot dogs. Peep one of the top comments in that video "Saddest thing about it is this: that segment was infinitely more entertaining than the game they're watching." :rollin

[TheGreatYacht]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1804239

"Sammy Sosa, beisbol player, tore several ligaments in his back after a particularly violent sneeze"

:lmao

[td4mvp2k]

^ desperate mode in effect :tu

[TheGreatYacht]

^ No. You were laughing at a football player asking to get stretchered off because he got cleated on the shin.. Beisbol players get hurt sneezing and opening up mayo bottles (another fact)

[TheGreatYacht]

A couple of beisbol player injuries:

- Sammy Sosa, tore ligaments in his back while sneezing.
- Mark Buehrle, sliced his throwing hand open while trying to open a jar of mayo
- Joel Zumaya, once missed the playoffs because of a wrist injury caused by playing too much 'Guitar Hero'
- Adam Eaton, tried to open a DVD wrapper with a knife. Stabbed himself in the stomach.
- John Smoltz, burnt himself while ironing his shirt. He was still wearing it.
- Glenallen Hill, Injured for 15 days after falling out of bed. He was trying to escape from imaginary spiders.

[lefty]

:lol running straight on a lined square

I believe they call it diamond. You know, in a desperate attempt to make besibol sound cooler


:lol fat cucks eating hot dogs and taking naps while they watch CC Sabathia chew tobacco for 5 hours


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1804239

"Sammy Sosa, beisbol player, tore several ligaments in his back after a particularly violent sneeze"

:lmao


A couple of beisbol player injuries:

- Sammy Sosa, tore ligaments in his back while sneezing.
- Mark Buehrle, sliced his throwing hand open while trying to open a jar of mayo
- Joel Zumaya, once missed the playoffs because of a wrist injury caused by playing too much 'Guitar Hero'
- Adam Eaton, tried to open a DVD wrapper with a knife. Stabbed himself in the stomach.
- John Smoltz, burnt himself while ironing his shirt. He was still wearing it.
- Glenallen Hill, Injured for 15 days after falling out of bed. He was trying to escape from imaginary spiders.

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Robz4000]

Don't worry lefty, I'm sure one day soon they'll bring back your Expos and you can love beisbal once again.

[TheGreatYacht]

I believe they call it diamond. You know, in a desperate attempt to make besibol sound cooler
I heard that they even use this thing called "replay" now :wow

[lefty]

I heard that they even use this thing called "replay" now :wow

There is no replay, it's the fat asses's actual speed

[Biernutz]

Beisbol is slow? Has anyone sat thru a 0-0 kickball game when there was no riots
in the stands?

[jehawk81]

There is no replay, it's the fat asses's actual speed

ROTFLMAO :lmao :lmao :lmao

[DAF86]

Nah, baseball players are stronger than Futbol players across the board. Futbol players are some of the weakest athletes in sports.


http://colgadosporelfutbol.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Los-jugadores-m%C3%A1s-fuertes-del-mundo-del-f%C3%BAtbol.2.jpg
http://por-img.cimcontent.net/api/assets/bin-201310/e22766384b75d8d86d5f9c5d5da2559e.jpg

Futbol players work on their upper body strenght almost as much as on their lower body strenght to be able to fend off opposing players.

[TheGreatYacht]

There is no replay, it's the fat asses's actual speed
FAM :lmao

[K...]

The only thing dumber than baseball, it's forum posting. Bunch of fatty favgots.

[baseline bum]

:lol watching Bartolo Colon run in from the bullpen

[baseline bum]

My nigga Chase Utley

[AlexJones]

Based fucking Utley

I just need the Mets and the Cubs out, all I'm asking

[AlexJones]

AGONE

[Reck]

A couple of beisbol player injuries:

- Sammy Sosa, tore ligaments in his back while sneezing.
- Mark Buehrle, sliced his throwing hand open while trying to open a jar of mayo
- Joel Zumaya, once missed the playoffs because of a wrist injury caused by playing too much 'Guitar Hero'
- Adam Eaton, tried to open a DVD wrapper with a knife. Stabbed himself in the stomach.
- John Smoltz, burnt himself while ironing his shirt. He was still wearing it.
- Glenallen Hill, Injured for 15 days after falling out of bed. He was trying to escape from imaginary spiders.

While funny, these are self inflicted injuries by moronic people.

[Reck]

http://colgadosporelfutbol.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Los-jugadores-m%C3%A1s-fuertes-del-mundo-del-f%C3%BAtbol.2.jpg
http://por-img.cimcontent.net/api/assets/bin-201310/e22766384b75d8d86d5f9c5d5da2559e.jpg

Futbol players work on their upper body strenght almost as much as on their lower body strenght to be able to fend off opposing players.

Also the faggiest.

[Biernutz]

0-0 kick ball game...the only excitement was in the stands......:lol


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/kickball/n-SOCCER-GAME-large_zps88cb7fac.jpg

[Pelicans78]

Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders were more athletic than any Futbol player.

[Pelicans78]

http://colgadosporelfutbol.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Los-jugadores-m%C3%A1s-fuertes-del-mundo-del-f%C3%BAtbol.2.jpg
http://por-img.cimcontent.net/api/assets/bin-201310/e22766384b75d8d86d5f9c5d5da2559e.jpg

Futbol players work on their upper body strenght almost as much as on their lower body strenght to be able to fend off opposing players.

Fending off fellow Futbol players takes very little strength. Most of those guys are midgets.

[Pelicans78]

The majority of baseball players would beat the fuck out of Futbol players.

[apalisoc_9]

The majority of baseball players would beat the fuck out of Futbol players.

that's if they can catch them.

Most baseball players would be out of breath after a few seconds.

seriously..Fat people should never be considered athletes.

So many big Darts player..most of them would beat the F out futbol players too..Doesn't make their "sport" any more interesting.

Terrible logic.

[Reck]

that's if they can catch them.

Most baseball players would be out of breath after a few seconds.

seriously..Fat people should never be considered athletes.

So many big Darts player..most of them would beat the F out futbol players too..Doesn't make their "sport" any more interesting.

Terrible logic.

But despite the spurstalk retarded logic that's always in play here, the majority of Baseball players aren't fat.

You can maybe say 50 are fat but they dont even make up a third of the rest.

[apalisoc_9]

But despite the spurstalk retarded logic that's always in play here, the majority of Baseball players aren't fat.

You can maybe say 50 are fat but they dont even make up a third of the rest.

the point is that, if you xan be an elite player as a supreme fatso..then its embarrassing.

[midnightpulp]

But despite the spurstalk retarded logic that's always in play here, the majority of Baseball players aren't fat.

You can maybe say 50 are fat but they dont even make up a third of the rest.

:lol

Lorenzo Cain is more athletic than any divegrass player that has ever played that "sport." As is Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, Yasiel Puig, Bo Jackson, Vince Coleman, Deion Sanders, Ken Griffey Jr. etc, etc, the list goes on to hundreds. In fact, that little guy on the Rangers, Odor, was reaching 21 mph on the basepaths yesterday, faster than Ronaldo's top speed.

Check out Trout's box jump. Ungodly:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/20140117/4955021/mike-trout-jump-o.gif

As a contrast, this video evaluating Cristiano Ronaldo's athleticism was particularly funny:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCtI6uxbTho

A 17" no step vertical and 31" inch one step vertical :lmao

And :lol at the way the narrator spoke about his 31" vert with such awe. That's the kind of "athleticism" that impresses povertyball fans.

[Robz4000]

Preach, mid, preach.

[midnightpulp]

More:

Ronaldo's 25 meter (82 feet) sprint time:

3.6 seconds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9-hC0XwubI

Unathletic baseball player Dee Gordon's time running all 4 bases (90 feet apart, and which requires turning):

13.89 seconds, when divided by 4, equals 3.4 seconds per basepath.

Gordon ran .2 seconds faster, while having to travel an additional 8 feet.

Edit:

Fastest single time recorded this year for a run from home to first base:


GOODYEAR, Ariz. -- Reds leadoff man Billy Hamilton has always been a blur. Today he is a whisper.

Word from a couple quarters in Reds camp was that the switch-hitting Hamilton was clocked in a legend-creating 3.3 seconds on a run from home to first base on his drag bunt

And why do divegrass fans always go on about stamina? Firstly, 80 minutes of the game, players are lightly jogging, walking, or standing around. It's not like they're in a dead sprint 100% of the time. Secondly, stamina is the easiest thing to train up of all athletic attributes. Much harder to train up explosiveness and endurance (taking continuous body contact).

To demonstrate this point, think when you've played basketball? What was more fatiguing? Banging in the post or jogging/running around on the perimeter? The answer in obviously the former.

[midnightpulp]

[Extrapolating from his 25m time] It’s a safe estimate to say Cristiano could run the 40 yard dash between 4.64-4.70

:lmao

"Fat" American athletes easily run that time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6IEnIV6EzA\

Oh, Fatty Prince Fielder that povertyball fans love posting pics of ran the 60 yard dash in 6.8 seconds, meaning 3.4 seconds per 30 yards. Obviously, you gain speed in the latter yards, so we can put Fielder's 30yd time at around 3.6-3.7, which is still faster than Ronaldo's 25m time.

:lol Lightweight, shredded divegrass players with 3% body fat can't run faster than Prince Fielder.
:cry "B-But their stamina!"

[Reck]

LOL mid doing work. Sent the peasants home. :lol

[Kidd K]

A couple of beisbol player injuries:

- Sammy Sosa, tore ligaments in his back while sneezing.
- Mark Buehrle, sliced his throwing hand open while trying to open a jar of mayo
- Joel Zumaya, once missed the playoffs because of a wrist injury caused by playing too much 'Guitar Hero'
- Adam Eaton, tried to open a DVD wrapper with a knife. Stabbed himself in the stomach.
- John Smoltz, burnt himself while ironing his shirt. He was still wearing it.
- Glenallen Hill, Injured for 15 days after falling out of bed. He was trying to escape from imaginary spiders.

Carlos Boozer: Breaks hand answering the door at his home.
Amar'e: Breaks hand punching fire extinguisher in locker room.
Grant Hill: Tears knee ligament in layup line.
Greg Oden: Stands up while watching tv, fractures knee.
Charles Barkley: Burns a layer of cornea off with lotion during Eric Clapton concert.
Derrick Rose: Cuts arm with apple knife while in bed. . .and not even using the knife
Lionel Simmons: Gets tendonitis playing too many video games, misses 2 weeks.
Dirk Nowitzki: Sprains ankle putting shoe on.
Paul Pierce: Wheelchair.

etc. The list goes on tbh. Any sport has dumb stories like that

[Biernutz]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/kickball/scoocer3_zpsfdab1a53.png

[TheGreatYacht]

Carlos Boozer: Breaks hand answering the door at his home.
Amar'e: Breaks hand punching fire extinguisher in locker room.
Grant Hill: Tears knee ligament in layup line.
Greg Oden: Stands up while watching tv, fractures knee.
Charles Barkley: Burns a layer of cornea off with lotion during Eric Clapton concert.
Derrick Rose: Cuts arm with apple knife while in bed. . .and not even using the knife
Lionel Simmons: Gets tendonitis playing too many video games, misses 2 weeks.
Dirk Nowitzki: Sprains ankle putting shoe on.
Paul Pierce: Wheelchair.

etc. The list goes on tbh. Any sport has dumb stories like that
Damn it K :rollin

[TheGreatYacht]

wait... Did someone say beisbol players would beat the shit out of football players? :rollin

Must've never heard of Zlatan...

[lefty]

wait... Did someone say beisbol players would beat the shit out of football players? :rollin

Must've never heard of Zlatan...

Fatball fans with the desperate arguments :lol

[Pelicans78]

Midnightpulp ended this thread long ago.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm neutral here, definitely lean more towards soccer as a pure sport, but mp just destroyed the thread:lol..

[lefty]

:lol beisbol
:lol 10 hoir games
:lol fathletes need steroids to be able to grab their crotches and spit
:lol dem injuries
:lol people napping during games
:lol 10 hours games
:lol fake intensity
:lol "god bless america" song in the middle of World Series games with the speakers set to the max, in order to wake up 54.4 years old fat redneck fans who fall asleep during games, the FUCKING WORLD SERIES games.
:lol falling asleep during championship games, oh yeah what an exciting sport!
:lol Joe Buck
:lol fake intensity
:lol be@ners using the MLB to get their green cards
:lol cuckball

:lol Bud Selig
:lol lets players take steroids so they can hit a ball once on a while, otherwise the game would be more boring than it already is
:lol Desperateball

:lol fans and Joe Buck standing up and screaming their lungs out when someone finally hits the ball, because nothing happened during the 9 previous hours

[apalisoc_9]

:lol beisbol
:lol 10 hoir games
:lol fathletes need steroids to be able to grab their crotches and spit
:lol dem injuries
:lol people napping during games
:lol 10 hours games
:lol fake intensity
:lol "god bless america" song in the middle of World Series games with the speakers set to the max, in order to wake up 54.4 years old fat redneck fans who fall asleep during games, the FUCKING WORLD SERIES games.
:lol falling asleep during championship games, oh yeah what an exciting sport!
:lol Joe Buck
:lol fake intensity
:lol be@ners using the MLB to get their green cards
:lol cuckball

:lol Bud Selig
:lol lets players take steroids so they can hit a ball once on a while, otherwise the game would be more boring than it already is
:lol Desperateball

:lol fans and Joe Buck standing up and screaming their lungs out when someone finally hits the ball, because nothing happened during the 9 previous hours

:wow

[Caltex2]

Carlos Boozer: Breaks hand answering the door at his home.
Amar'e: Breaks hand punching fire extinguisher in locker room.
Grant Hill: Tears knee ligament in layup line.
Greg Oden: Stands up while watching tv, fractures knee.
Charles Barkley: Burns a layer of cornea off with lotion during Eric Clapton concert.
Derrick Rose: Cuts arm with apple knife while in bed. . .and not even using the knife
Lionel Simmons: Gets tendonitis playing too many video games, misses 2 weeks.
Dirk Nowitzki: Sprains ankle putting shoe on.
Paul Pierce: Wheelchair.

etc. The list goes on tbh. Any sport has dumb stories like that

OMG, is that true? That sounds totally made up and like a joke.

[Mitch]

Stickball isn't as much a sport as it is just a game of skill like Chess, checkers, Esports, etc.

[midnightpulp]

Stickball isn't as much a sport as it is just a game of skill like Chess, checkers, Esports, etc.

That's soccer, tbh. The greatest athlete ever seen in soccer (Ronaldo) has athletic stats that are subpar by American sports standards, baseball included. Like most soccer players, he excels through his skill rather than athleticism. Yes, he does beat a lot of his opponents through his superior athletic ability, only because the "athletes" he's playing against are such shit.

When two midgets are the 1 and 2 best players of all time (Maradona, Messi), you know you have a skill game first, sport second.

[midnightpulp]

:lol beisbol
:lol 10 hoir games
:lol fathletes need steroids to be able to grab their crotches and spit
:lol dem injuries
:lol people napping during games
:lol 10 hours games
:lol fake intensity
:lol "god bless america" song in the middle of World Series games with the speakers set to the max, in order to wake up 54.4 years old fat redneck fans who fall asleep during games, the FUCKING WORLD SERIES games.
:lol falling asleep during championship games, oh yeah what an exciting sport!
:lol Joe Buck
:lol fake intensity
:lol be@ners using the MLB to get their green cards
:lol cuckball

:lol Bud Selig
:lol lets players take steroids so they can hit a ball once on a while, otherwise the game would be more boring than it already is
:lol Desperateball

:lol fans and Joe Buck standing up and screaming their lungs out when someone finally hits the ball, because nothing happened during the 9 previous hours

:lol Povertyball
:lol The best "athlete" in the game runs a 4.7 40 and has a 31" vertical
:lol Povertyball fans are in "awe" of that
:lol Fat baseball players run faster
:lol Povertyball fans will always riot after a match, win or lose
:lol "Chant" throughout the entire game to entertain themselves from boredom as another 0-0 tie seems likely
:lol Literal midgets are the best players of all-time
:lol Most players look like crackheads with frail, sunken in bodies (see your avi)
:lol "It's a game of stamina!" 85 minutes are spent lightly jogging, walking, or standing
:lol Biting each other
:lol Throwing themselves to the grass like they've been shot by a sniper
:lol Sticking fingers up each other's asshole

http://libertycitys.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/copa-shocker.jpg

[lefty]

:lol Midnightpulp is mad the soccer is BY FAR the most popular sport in the World, andthat nobody gives a fuck about baseball except for Murica, 2 third world countries and some chinks

[midnightpulp]

:lol Midnightpulp is mad the soccer is BY FAR the most popular sport in the World, andthat nobody gives a fuck about baseball except for Murica, 2 third world countries and some chinks

:lmao sig shows a match that ended in a 0-0 tie

[lefty]

:lmao sig shows a match that ended in a 0-0 tie

still more exciting than a 10-9 beisbol game :lmao

Because there is still more action in a 0-0 soccer game than in a 10-9 Snoozeball game :lmao

[baseline bum]

:lol beisbol
:lol 10 hoir games
:lol fathletes need steroids to be able to grab their crotches and spit
:lol dem injuries
:lol people napping during games
:lol 10 hours games
:lol fake intensity
:lol "god bless america" song in the middle of World Series games with the speakers set to the max, in order to wake up 54.4 years old fat redneck fans who fall asleep during games, the FUCKING WORLD SERIES games.
:lol falling asleep during championship games, oh yeah what an exciting sport!
:lol Joe Buck
:lol fake intensity
:lol be@ners using the MLB to get their green cards
:lol cuckball

:lol Bud Selig
:lol lets players take steroids so they can hit a ball once on a while, otherwise the game would be more boring than it already is
:lol Desperateball

:lol fans and Joe Buck standing up and screaming their lungs out when someone finally hits the ball, because nothing happened during the 9 previous hours

lefty thinks they should sing salil sawarim at the 7th inning stretch

[DAF86]

:lol

Lorenzo Cain is more athletic than any divegrass player that has ever played that "sport." As is Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, Yasiel Puig, Bo Jackson, Vince Coleman, Deion Sanders, Ken Griffey Jr. etc, etc, the list goes on to hundreds. In fact, that little guy on the Rangers, Odor, was reaching 21 mph on the basepaths yesterday, faster than Ronaldo's top speed.

Check out Trout's box jump. Ungodly:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/20140117/4955021/mike-trout-jump-o.gif

As a contrast, this video evaluating Cristiano Ronaldo's athleticism was particularly funny:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCtI6uxbTho

A 17" no step vertical and 31" inch one step vertical :lmao

And :lol at the way the narrator spoke about his 31" vert with such awe. That's the kind of "athleticism" that impresses povertyball fans.


More:

Ronaldo's 25 meter (82 feet) sprint time:

3.6 seconds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9-hC0XwubI

Unathletic baseball player Dee Gordon's time running all 4 bases (90 feet apart, and which requires turning):

13.89 seconds, when divided by 4, equals 3.4 seconds per basepath.

Gordon ran .2 seconds faster, while having to travel an additional 8 feet.

Edit:

Fastest single time recorded this year for a run from home to first base:



And why do divegrass fans always go on about stamina? Firstly, 80 minutes of the game, players are lightly jogging, walking, or standing around. It's not like they're in a dead sprint 100% of the time. Secondly, stamina is the easiest thing to train up of all athletic attributes. Much harder to train up explosiveness and endurance (taking continuous body contact).

To demonstrate this point, think when you've played basketball? What was more fatiguing? Banging in the post or jogging/running around on the perimeter? The answer in obviously the former.


:lmao

"Fat" American athletes easily run that time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6IEnIV6EzA\

Oh, Fatty Prince Fielder that povertyball fans love posting pics of ran the 60 yard dash in 6.8 seconds, meaning 3.4 seconds per 30 yards. Obviously, you gain speed in the latter yards, so we can put Fielder's 30yd time at around 3.6-3.7, which is still faster than Ronaldo's 25m time.

:lol Lightweight, shredded divegrass players with 3% body fat can't run faster than Prince Fielder.
:cry "B-But their stamina!"

1) You are comparing Ronaldo's athletic stats (who for all we know isn't the fastest futbol player nor the one that jumps the highest, tbh) to the best atheltic marks recored in other sports.

2) You are nitpicking the atheltic traits you want to make your argument.

3) You are bringing up specific players. So the exception, not the norm. You can be an unathletic old fart fatso and still be a baseball superstar, you don't have a chance of making a carrer as a profesionall futbol player if you are not above average in pretty much every athletic trait there is.

4) You are bringing up players from other sports when this is a baseball thread.

5) None of those things you said negates the fact that baseball is a boring old ass sport that is only going to get less and less popular with time.

[Mitch]

That's soccer, tbh. The greatest athlete ever seen in soccer (Ronaldo) has athletic stats that are subpar by American sports standards, baseball included. Like most soccer players, he excels through his skill rather than athleticism. Yes, he does beat a lot of his opponents through his superior athletic ability, only because the "athletes" he's playing against are such shit.

When two midgets are the 1 and 2 best players of all time (Maradona, Messi), you know you have a skill game first, sport second.

The endurance thing is enough to debate soccer as a sport, I figure. Stickball is all skill, though.

[Reck]

1) You are comparing Ronaldo's athletic stats (who for all we know isn't the fastest futbol player nor the one that jumps the highest, tbh) to the best atheltic marks recored in other sports.

2) You are nitpicking the atheltic traits you want to make your argument.

3) You are bringing up specific players. So the exception, not the norm. You can be an unathletic old fart fatso and still be a baseball superstar, you don't have a chance of making a carrer as a profesionall futbol player if you are not above average in pretty much every athletic trait there is.

4) You are bringing up players from other sports when this is a baseball thread.

5) None of those things you said negates the fact that baseball is a boring old ass sport that is only going to get less and less popular with time.

So defensive. lol

People who dont like Baseball are doing the same thing in this very thread. Nitpicking players who are on the heavy side to make their case.

I dont agree that just any fatass can come into the major leagues and become proffesional. Do you know just how hard it is to make it there to begin with?

These guys start out when they're 10 years old.

You could argue and say that it's easier for Baseball players (Moreso pitchers) to let themselves go abit more because they run in stints and bursts.

But in general I do agree that an athlete should be in shape if he's playing a pro sport. But it doesn't really bother me if he's not Mr. 6 pack.

[lefty]

1) You are comparing Ronaldo's athletic stats (who for all we know isn't the fastest futbol player nor the one that jumps the highest, tbh) to the best atheltic marks recored in other sports.

2) You are nitpicking the atheltic traits you want to make your argument.

3) You are bringing up specific players. So the exception, not the norm. You can be an unathletic old fart fatso and still be a baseball superstar, you don't have a chance of making a carrer as a profesionall futbol player if you are not above average in pretty much every athletic trait there is.

4) You are bringing up players from other sports when this is a baseball thread.

5) None of those things you said negates the fact that baseball is a boring old ass sport that is only going to get less and less popular with time.

DAF wrecking this thread :lol

[AlexJones]

653375058283393024

OMFG :lmao

[lefty20]

Utley gone for 2 games. Well deserved, tbh.

[spurraider21]

:lol Midnightpulp is mad the soccer is BY FAR the most popular sport in the World, andthat nobody gives a fuck about baseball except for Murica, 2 third world countries and some chinks
yeah because of 3rd world countries

-daniel tosh

[Clipper Nation]

Mid absolutely DESTROYING the povertyball faggots and their cute little narratives ITT... holy shit :wow

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Midnightpulp is mad the soccer is BY FAR the most popular sport in the World

Literally only because it's cheap, takes little effort to play, and is a pussified excuse for a "sport," so third-world countries and lazy Eurocucks alike are drawn to it.

[HI-FI]

653375058283393024

OMFG :lmao
:rollin
damn

[Reck]

653375058283393024

OMFG :lmao

Fuck yeah, epic. :lmao

[HemisfairArena]

653375058283393024

OMFG :lmao

Fake as fuck. Bitch throws her head back and nigga says "women",,,,scripted. Don't be gullible, kids,,

[lefty]

653375058283393024

OMFG :lmao
:lmao holy shit


:lmao beisbol games are THAT boring

[midnightpulp]

1) You are comparing Ronaldo's athletic stats (who for all we know isn't the fastest futbol player nor the one that jumps the highest, tbh) to the best atheltic marks recored in other sports.

Ronaldo is the 4th fastest player in world soccer, reaching sprint speeds of close to 21 mph. Like I said, Odor on the Rangers was reaching similar speeds and he's probably not one of the top 20 fastest guys in the league. As for vertical jumps, I'd bet my house that the top leaper in baseball jumps higher than the top leaper in soccer.


2) You are nitpicking the atheltic traits you want to make your argument.

They're different sports that require different skill sets. We can't compare Ronaldo's bat speed to Mike Trout's ball control, can we? So all that's left are the core athletic traits to compare: sprint speed, strength, jumping, stamina, quickness and endurance (not the same thing as stamina). Baseball players, on average, perform better in the first three categories. Stamina and quickness is obviously soccer players. Endurance is irrelevant here since both sports aren't really contact sports.


3) You are bringing up specific players. So the exception, not the norm. You can be an unathletic old fart fatso and still be a baseball superstar, you don't have a chance of making a carrer as a profesionall futbol player if you are not above average in pretty much every athletic trait there is.

No. The players I'm referencing are pretty much the norm at their positions in terms of athleticism and skill. If you want to be a Major League outfielder, you essentially need NFL wide receiver tier athleticism and coordination. There's less athletic demands on infielders, but they're only a slight notch below. It's the soccer camp that brings up "specific" players of DHs and relief pitchers, which are highly specialized positions. And no "old fart fatso" is a baseball superstar in the current league.


4) You are bringing up players from other sports when this is a baseball thread.

:lol I mentioned one. Oh, the horror! Besides, I showed how one of those fatso baseball players runs faster than Ronaldo.


5) None of those things you said negates the fact that baseball is a boring old ass sport that is only going to get less and less popular with time.

And yet the MLB and NPB (Japanese professional baseball league) are worth more than the 3 most valuable povertyball leagues in the world combined :lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue

[Reck]

^
http://i.imgur.com/Gp1dG5v.gif

http://i.imgur.com/dCdwgH0.gif

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4604730/firstsoviethbomb1-o.gif

http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp181/replicators_album/gifs/1245782497777.gif

:lol

[Shastafarian]

Can you guys imagine what would happen if a soccer player took a 95 MPH fastball anywhere on his body? The whole team would fall down. :lol

[lefty]

:lmao the meltdown in this thread
:lmao truth hurts

:cry I just said "I think I saw somebody move"

[Biernutz]

Third world skill level game ..........

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/kickball/kickball5_zps7b23a476.jpg

[spurraider21]

:lmao the meltdown in this thread
:lmao truth hurts

:cry I just said "I think I saw somebody move"
:lmao "just said"
:lmao has most posts in the thread

[Reck]

:lmao "just said"
:lmao has most posts in the thread

:lol

[Mal]

Arent most beisbol players from Mexico, Dominican Republic, Wenezuela and Cuba ?

[Kidd K]

Damn it K :rollin

:lmao "Professional athletes" :lmao It's like that in every sport, it's hilarious



OMG, is that true? That sounds totally made up and like a joke.

It actually is true, lol. It was his initial knee injury after being drafted.

[Killakobe81]

I'm neutral here, definitely lean more towards soccer as a pure sport, but mp just destroyed the thread:lol..

Didnt come in because I enjoy both sports ... but damn, Mid did body some niccas on the box on this one.

For the record both sports are "slow". both have good and great athletes. both games have a nuance to them that if you dont follow on the regular you wont get the strategy and beauty of.

But carry on ...

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Povertyball faggots continuing to get Midslapped

[lefty]

:lol living rent-free in beisbol fans heafs
:lol look at them posting stats and shit
:lol desperateball

[Robz4000]

:cry MLB took away my Expos so fuck them and their sport :cry

[lefty]

:lol Expos
:lol beisbol
:lol empty stadium

[spurraider21]

:lol living rent-free in beisbol fans heafs
:lol look at them posting stats and shit
:lol desperateball
so you're living rent-free but ur the one starting this thread :lol

[DAF86]

Ronaldo is the 4th fastest player in world soccer, reaching sprint speeds of close to 21 mph. Like I said, Odor on the Rangers was reaching similar speeds and he's probably not one of the top 20 fastest guys in the league. As for vertical jumps, I'd bet my house that the top leaper in baseball jumps higher than the top leaper in soccer.

So, what you're telling me is that soccer and baseball players are more or less tied on the only athletic traits some baseball players (not all of them, not even most of them 'cause you only have three outfielders per team) need? Doesn't really help you case.



They're different sports that require different skill sets. We can't compare Ronaldo's bat speed to Mike Trout's ball control, can we? So all that's left are the core athletic traits to compare: sprint speed, strength, jumping, stamina, quickness and endurance (not the same thing as stamina). Baseball players, on average, perform better in the first three categories. Stamina and quickness is obviously soccer players. Endurance is irrelevant here since both sports aren't really contact sports.

Futbol not a contact sport? :lol If you are not used to it you would leave the field crying after the first glance (not even hit) to your shin (thing that happens like at the very least 10 times per game). And I'm not even talking about actual hard tackles nor the constant grabbing, shoving and pushing that happens on the upper body. There isn't a professional futbol player out there that doesn't have like a million bruises all over his body.

Baseball players are faster and jump higher than futbol players on average?

Take an entire baseball team and an entire futbol team and make them run a relay race. With a hand in your heart, who do you think would win? We all know the answer son.

Same thing happens with jumping, take an average of the jump height reached by an entire baseball team and entire futbol team. Who wins?



No. The players I'm referencing are pretty much the norm at their positions in terms of athleticism and skill. If you want to be a Major League outfielder, you essentially need NFL wide receiver tier athleticism and coordination. There's less athletic demands on infielders, but they're only a slight notch below. It's the soccer camp that brings up "specific" players of DHs and relief pitchers, which are highly specialized positions. And no "old fart fatso" is a baseball superstar in the current league.

http://cdn4.elmundoboston.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/David-Ortiz.jpg
http://itsaboutthemoney.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/cabrera2.jpg
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/PJ-BD407A_SP_FA_G_20111025184752.jpg
https://nbchardballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/cd0ymzcznguwzdbhnduynddiytjhm2yyzthlmtjjotqwyyznpw m5yjk4ndflzgqxmtc1zwizmduxyjqxnwizymu2ogyx.jpeg
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/10e1c087cb97408ca09ccfaf24a35ab37f4be95a/c=29-0-2589-1925&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/USATODAY/test/2013/11/20//1384999238000-2013-11-20-prince.jpg


And yet the MLB and NPB (Japanese professional baseball league) are worth more than the 3 most valuable povertyball leagues in the world combined :lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue

Still doesn't negate the fact that baseball is a boring ass sport that decreases on popularity every decade. :lol

[midnightpulp]

So, what you're telling me is that soccer and baseball players are more or less tied on the only athletic traits some baseball players (not all of them, not even most of them 'cause you only have three outfielders per team) need? Doesn't really help you case.

Moving the goal posts much? First, it was "baseball players aren't athletes!" I demonstrated to you that 3 positions in baseball require not just good athleticism, but world class athleticism near or on the level of NFL wide receivers and that players at those positions are overall more athletic than soccer players. And all infield positions aside from first base and catcher require a great deal of athleticism, coordination, and quickness. You can't seem to wrap your mind around the fact that different positions require different attributes. What you're doing is like me citing a goalie as an example of the general athleticism of soccer players.




Futbol not a contact sport? :lol If you are not used to it you would leave the field crying after the first glance (not even hit) to your shin (thing that happens like at the very least 10 times per game). And I'm not even talking about actual hard tackles nor the constant grabbing, shoving and pushing that happens on the upper body. There isn't a professional futbol player out there that doesn't have like a million bruises all over his body.

Not on the level of rugby, American football, basketball, etc. But I'll concede the point here. However, if we define endurance as the ability to play through wear and tear, both sports chew up their athletes at a similar rate, especially pitchers. Running 5 miles is easier to recover from the next day than throwing 100 pitches at 95mph.


Baseball players are faster and jump higher than futbol players on average? Take an entire baseball team and an entire futbol team and make them run a relay race. With a hand in your heart, who do you think would win? We all know the answer son.


Instead of that, let's have a decathlon. Something that measures all the core athletic traits. The Kansas City Royals starting 9 plus Dyson (who has sprinter speed) would decimate Real Madrid. Only event the soccer team would win would be the 1500. The baseball team would have the fastest sprinters, the faster hurdlers, and would sweep the shot put and Javelin by a ridiculous margin. I have no clue why you continue to prop up the athleticism of soccer players when real measurements show that Ronaldo, the best athlete the game has ever produced according to many, has subpar athletic traits compared to American Athletes, baseball included.


Same thing happens with jumping, take an average of the jump height reached by an entire baseball team and entire futbol team. Who wins?

See above.

I deleted your pics for space reasons, but only Pujols (Cardinals era) and Cabrera could be considered "superstars." Don't know why you insist on posting Fielder. It was already proven that he's faster than Ronaldo :lmao

Cabrera has lost 5 steps since gaining weight. Here's his prime form (not fat):

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/bd0552b03681fece7f2cb13ce2e2413478f53e9f/c=37-0-2962-3900&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/2015/02/18/USATODAY/USATODAY/635598714168264161-USATSI-8102635.jpg

And Pujols isn't fat. It's called "mass," something soccer players don't have, so I understand your confusion:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/muscfit_may07cover.jpg



Still doesn't negate the fact that baseball is a boring ass sport that decreases on popularity every decade. :lol

The MLB continues to take in record revenue and baseball continues to grow in its hot spots (Japan, South Korea, Caribbean, even growing in China). Oh, you're gonna link clickbait articles about "54 years old!" Too bad the real numbers, which can't be spun by journalists, don't support any of those opinions.


Major League Baseball (MLB) repeats as the most attended sports league in the world, reporting a 2013 regular season total of attendance of 74,026,895 (sixth highest total in its history).

The third most attended sports league in the world, Japan's Nippon Professional Baseball (NPB) saw attendance in 2013 grow 3.17% to 22,047,491, which was over 500,000 more than the highest non-baseball league/fourth most attended professional sport league in the world.

After four consecutive years of record attendance growth in the Korea Baseball Organization (KBO) -- which was jump-started by Team Korea's gold medal performance at the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games -- KBO saw a slight dip in 2013 to 6,743,940, after having brought in more than seven million spectators to the stadiums for the first time in 2012. In 2015, KBO will undergo expansion from nine teams to ten teams

The Chinese Professional Baseball League (CPBL) experienced a massive increase in ticket sales in 2013 to 1,459,072, with average match attendance increasing 149.86% from 2012.

[midnightpulp]

Oh, and it's easy to do the same thing for povertyball.

You can be skinny fat without an ounce of muscle mass and still be one of the best players in the world.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/15/article-1294872-0A5D21FD000005DC-798_306x438.jpg

[apalisoc_9]

Oh, and it's easy to do the same thing for povertyball.

You can be skinny fat without an ounce of muscle mass and still be one of the best players in the world.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/15/article-1294872-0A5D21FD000005DC-798_306x438.jpg

Rooney is nowhere near the best player in the world. That's like saying Parker is one of the best NBA players.

Midnight talking about things he has no idea about

[midnightpulp]

Rooney is nowhere near the best player in the world. That's like saying Parker is one of the best NBA players.

Midnight talking about things he has no idea about

Given the amount of people that play povertyball, even if Rooney is in the top 200 players in the world, that still makes him one of the elite or the elite.

[midnightpulp]

Another fine specimen.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/18/article-2280311-17A3A0D6000005DC-444_634x534.jpg

[Mitch]

Another fine specimen.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/18/article-2280311-17A3A0D6000005DC-444_634x534.jpg

To be fair, Midst, a lot of athletes really aren't physical specimens. Endurance, reaction time and coordination aren't really seen on a person's body. Here's a prime example. Although I do believe Soccer is borderline a skill based sport, but it is still heads and shoulders above stickball in this regards.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/OJ142/duncannn4kf.jpg

[Darth_Pelican]

Playoff baseball at Wrigley Field starts in a couple of hours... should be a good atmosphere.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/43e728fabbb88bbca689d8e865331d69/tumblr_munyj8d2901rvn2ylo1_400.gif (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRxqFQoTCN66yt3YvcgCFUeegAodU5gGJQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fyahoosports.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F6 4020549756%2F10-years-ago-today-we-met-steve-bartman&psig=AFQjCNHcRoMqNGEB5blCptIqAcUAcLx6dg&ust=1444765383470233)

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/sp/image/1427/76/1427763501603.gif

[midnightpulp]

To be fair, Midst, a lot of athletes really aren't physical specimens. Endurance, reaction time and coordination aren't really seen on a person's body. Here's a prime example. Although I do believe Soccer is borderline a skill based sport, but it is still heads and shoulders above stickball in this regards.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/OJ142/duncannn4kf.jpg

That exactly my point. Posting those pics is satirizing soccer fans' retarded idea that physique betrays skill or athleticism. Fat=/=unathletic as much as skinny and soft=/=unathletic.

Your last comment is vague. If you think soccer takes more skill than baseball, then I don't know what to say. The reason the game is so popular in the 3rd world is because of its relative cheap cost to play and ridiculously low learning curve.

I'm a fan of all the major North American sports about equally, but baseball has the highest barrier to entry of them all. Bo Jackson, maybe the greatest all around athlete of the 80's and 90's, was a baseball player first, thought of football as a hobby, but was better at the latter. Danny Ainge was a middling baseball player, went into the NBA, and became a borderline all-star. Deion Sanders was just an average baseball player. The game humbled Jordan, etc.

[Mitch]

That exactly my point. Posting those pics is satirizing soccer fans' retarded idea that physique betrays skill or athleticism. Fat=/=unathletic as much as skinny and soft=/=unathletic.

Your last comment is vague. If you think soccer takes more skill than baseball, then I don't know what to say. The reason the game is so popular in the 3rd world is because of its relative cheap cost to play and ridiculously low learning curve.

I'm a fan of all the major North American sports about equally, but baseball has the highest barrier to entry of them all. Bo Jackson, maybe the greatest all around athlete of the 80's and 90's, was a baseball player first, thought of football as a hobby, but was better at the latter. Danny Ainge was a middling baseball player, went into the NBA, and became a borderline all-star. Deion Sanders was just an average baseball player. The game humbled Jordan, etc.

Ah maybe I should have worded it better, I meant soccer requires more athleticism. Stickball is closer to golf in my eyes, but somewhat more athletic. I'd disagree that it had the highest barrier of entry, anybody might be able to pick up a golf club and enter a contest, but at a professional level there are far less competitive golfers than stickball players.

[spurraider21]

Bo Jackson, maybe the greatest all around athlete of the 80's and 90's, was a baseball player first, thought of football as a hobby, but was better at the latter. Danny Ainge was a middling baseball player, went into the NBA, and became a borderline all-star. Deion Sanders was just an average baseball player. The game humbled Jordan, etc.
yes and i'm sure there are plenty of baseball players that would suck in the NBA too

[Darth_Pelican]

Speaking of Beisbol playoffs, the Astros are in the process of a chokejob; up 6-2 to close out the series in the 8th, and now it's 6-6.

[baseline bum]

LOL now it's 9-6 Royals.

[apalisoc_9]

That exactly my point. Posting those pics is satirizing soccer fans' retarded idea that physique betrays skill or athleticism. Fat=/=unathletic as much as skinny and soft=/=unathletic.

Your last comment is vague. If you think soccer takes more skill than baseball, then I don't know what to say. The reason the game is so popular in the 3rd world is because of its relative cheap cost to play and ridiculously low learning curve.

I'm a fan of all the major North American sports about equally, but baseball has the highest barrier to entry of them all. Bo Jackson, maybe the greatest all around athlete of the 80's and 90's, was a baseball player first, thought of football as a hobby, but was better at the latter. Danny Ainge was a middling baseball player, went into the NBA, and became a borderline all-star. Deion Sanders was just an average baseball player. The game humbled Jordan, etc.


This is not true at all. We've seen baseball players and other sports start out in their teens and still make the pros..

you xan not do this in futbol..Heck even if you start young, you won't make it unless you join an academy at around 5-7 years old.

making an argument for learning curve in favour of baseball over futbol :lol

[Clipper Nation]

This is not true at all. We've seen baseball players and other sports start out in their teens and still make the pros..
Most of those guys are lying about their age and come from countries that aren't exactly the most reliable when it comes to birth certificates/documentation.


you xan not do this in futbol..Heck even if you start young, you won't make it unless you join an academy at around 5-7 years old.
Which is fucking creepy and makes Little League parents look sane.

[Biernutz]

Beisbol players shake hands after they score ...Kickball players ...just a little creepy

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/kickball/kickball14_zps455189c6.jpg

[midnightpulp]

This is not true at all. We've seen baseball players and other sports start out in their teens and still make the pros..

you xan not do this in futbol..Heck even if you start young, you won't make it unless you join an academy at around 5-7 years old.

making an argument for learning curve in favour of baseball over futbol :lol


Miroslav Klose worked as a builder and brick-layer before starting football, and while playing at FC Homburg at the ages of 19-20 (who were in the 5th division of Germany when he played) in 1999. After this initial phase of developing his foundations, his talents were fully fledged and demonstrated suddenly and dramatically on the world stage at the World Cup 2002, where he claimed the Golden Boot.


Didier Drogba for example. He signed his first pro contract when he was 21.
Wikipedia: “Former Le Mans coach Marc Westerloppe later remarked that “it took Didier four years to be capable of training every day and playing every week”. Furthermore, Drogba’s complicated family life meant that he had never attended a football academy and only began daily football training as a fully grown adult.

http://www.nickhumph.com/2011/11/05/how-to-be-a-pro-soccer-player-late-bloomer/#.Vhwka3pVhBc

To be sincere for a moment, modern training methods in EVERY sport are so efficient now, that a person blessed with world class athleticism and hand eye coordination along with a good work ethic, can pretty much be a professional at anything, even if he starts relatively later.

[apalisoc_9]

Most of those guys are lying about their age and come from countries that aren't exactly the most reliable when it comes to birth certificates/documentation.


Which is fucking creepy and makes Little League parents look sane.

Most countries are poor as fuk..they'd do anything to give their kids an edge in third world countries even if it means forcing them into academies.

It is what it is...It's exactly why it's one sport America has trouble dominating despite the major advantage they have in terms of facilities and money because parents Europe an South America don't believe in the BS "Kids should always only enjoy the childhood"..you shit countries like Argentina, ukraine being good at this sport for this sole reason...They allow their kids to grow up in academies. I realize that sounds brutal and abuse to the average North Americans but believe it or not, the kids do enjoy it.

[apalisoc_9]

http://www.nickhumph.com/2011/11/05/how-to-be-a-pro-soccer-player-late-bloomer/#.Vhwka3pVhBc

To be sincere for a moment, modern training methods in EVERY sport are so efficient now, that a person blessed with world class athleticism and hand eye coordination along with a good work ethic, can pretty much be a professional at anything, even if he starts relatively later.

Working 2nd jobs isn't the same as only started playing the sport in their teens.

That's different than your average American story..Started this sport in HS.

I repeat, you can not be a pro if in futbol if you're not doing moves at age 5-7...

I doubt you can say the same thing about most american sports..or most sports for that matter...Save maybe for Hockey.

Drogba and klose have been playing the sport since they were kids...like age 5 and shi

[DAF86]

Moving the goal posts much? First, it was "baseball players aren't athletes!" I demonstrated to you that 3 positions in baseball require not just good athleticism, but world class athleticism near or on the level of NFL wide receivers and that players at those positions are overall more athletic than soccer players. And all infield positions aside from first base and catcher require a great deal of athleticism, coordination, and quickness. You can't seem to wrap your mind around the fact that different positions require different attributes. What you're doing is like me citing a goalie as an example of the general athleticism of soccer players.


Instead of that, let's have a decathlon. Something that measures all the core athletic traits. The Kansas City Royals starting 9 plus Dyson (who has sprinter speed) would decimate Real Madrid. Only event the soccer team would win would be the 1500. The baseball team would have the fastest sprinters, the faster hurdlers, and would sweep the shot put and Javelin by a ridiculous margin. I have no clue why you continue to prop up the athleticism of soccer players when real measurements show that Ronaldo, the best athlete the game has ever produced according to many, has subpar athletic traits compared to American Athletes, baseball included.

You're the one that doesn't seem to be getting the point. Nobody is saying that all the baseball players are fat and/or unathletic, we're just saying that for a "professional sport" baseball seems to have an awful big number of those type of "athletes". Whereas in futbol you just can't make it as a professional if you are not at an elite level of fitness.

Yeah, baseball might have some players that are faster than the fastest futbol player. But baseball also has a lot of players that are comically slow, so slow that even bums from the street could beat them in a sprint. You don't get that on futbol.

You literally said on "average" and if you get the speed average of every professional futbol player in the World it is clearly going to be better than the speed average of every professional baseball player in the World. Because every position in futbol requires a very high level of athleticism.


I deleted your pics for space reasons, but only Pujols (Cardinals era) and Cabrera could be considered "superstars." Don't know why you insist on posting Fielder. It was already proven that he's faster than Ronaldo :lmao

Cabrera has lost 5 steps since gaining weight. Here's his prime form (not fat):

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/bd0552b03681fece7f2cb13ce2e2413478f53e9f/c=37-0-2962-3900&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/2015/02/18/USATODAY/USATODAY/635598714168264161-USATSI-8102635.jpg

And Pujols isn't fat. It's called "mass," something soccer players don't have, so I understand your confusion:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/muscfit_may07cover.jpg

Are you seriously going to use the semantics card? David Ortiz isn't a superstar? OK, let's just say very good players then.


The MLB continues to take in record revenue and baseball continues to grow in its hot spots (Japan, South Korea, Caribbean, even growing in China). Oh, you're gonna link clickbait articles about "54 years old!" Too bad the real numbers, which can't be spun by journalists, don't support any of those opinions.

Still boring as fuck and not as popular as it used to be.

[Mitch]

:lol needing to defend stickball to prop up soccer

[midnightpulp]

Working 2nd jobs isn't the same as only started playing the sport in their teens.

That's different than your average American story..Started this sport in HS.

I repeat, you can not be a pro if in futbol if you're not doing moves at age 5-7...

I doubt you can say the same thing about most american sports..or most sports for that matter...Save maybe for Hockey.

Drogba and klose have been playing the sport since they were kids...like age 5 and shi

Link?

Kicking the ball around in the park as a kid isn't necessarily "playing." The text is there in black and white, detailing their soccer careers. They didn't get serious until later and still became professionals.

American sports are the same way. Every kid grows up casually playing baseball, football, or basketball. Some take it more seriously and enter the equivalent of academies for those sports. There's always exceptions, like Tim Duncan who came late to the game at 15, but no American kid is a stranger to any of those sports.

[apalisoc_9]

Mid posted something about baseball in Japan..While it;s true that it's still the number one sport there.

Futbol leagues in Japan only started in 1995 and futbol in general is called the "new generation" sport. :lol

it's essential a major threat to beisbol as the older generations die out.

Name me a sport that can get this popular in a country that only started to have their pro league in 95...:lol

[Raven]

That's soccer, tbh. The greatest athlete ever seen in soccer (Ronaldo) has athletic stats that are subpar by American sports standards, baseball included. Like most soccer players, he excels through his skill rather than athleticism. Yes, he does beat a lot of his opponents through his superior athletic ability, only because the "athletes" he's playing against are such shit.

When two midgets are the 1 and 2 best players of all time (Maradona, Messi), you know you have a skill game first, sport second.

who told you that tbh? It's not even close to be true...

[apalisoc_9]

Link?

Kicking the ball around in the park as a kid isn't necessarily "playing." The text is there in black and white, detailing their soccer careers. They didn't get serious until later and still became professionals.

American sports are the same way. Every kid grows up casually playing baseball, football, or basketball. Some take it more seriously and enter the equivalent of academies for those sports. There's always exceptions, like Tim Duncan who came late to the game at 15, but no American kid is a stranger to any of those sports.

Did you even read your own post?

Nothing in your link says they started playing ball late in their age...

We know in most sports this is achievable..Specially in Griderion.

[Raven]

Link?

Kicking the ball around in the park as a kid isn't necessarily "playing." The text is there in black and white, detailing their soccer careers. They didn't get serious until later and still became professionals.

American sports are the same way. Every kid grows up casually playing baseball, football, or basketball. Some take it more seriously and enter the equivalent of academies for those sports. There's always exceptions, like Tim Duncan who came late to the game at 15, but no American kid is a stranger to any of those sports.


i'm neutral here, but I can easily tell you that most of them start at 5-7 in a club i mean. It's practically unfathomable to start after 12.

[apalisoc_9]

Learning curve in favour of beisbol..

funniest shit I've read in a while. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Most countries are poor as fuk..they'd do anything to give their kids an edge in third world countries even if it means forcing them into academies.

It is what it is...It's exactly why it's one sport America has trouble dominating despite the major advantage they have in terms of facilities and money because parents Europe an South America don't believe in the BS "Kids should always only enjoy the childhood"..you shit countries like Argentina, ukraine being good at this sport for this sole reason...They allow their kids to grow up in academies. I realize that sounds brutal and abuse to the average North Americans but believe it or not, the kids do enjoy it.
Those "academies" sound like Jerry Sandusky's dream set-up, tbh. There's a reason why we're not copying third-world shitholes.

[midnightpulp]

You're the one that doesn't seem to be getting the point. Nobody is saying that all the baseball players are fat and/or unathletic, we're just saying that for a "professional sport" baseball seems to have an awful big number of those type of "athletes". Whereas in futbol you just can't make it as a professional if you are not at an elite level of fitness.

But there's not an "awful lot of those type" of players in baseball. Your lot keeps posting the same handful of players over and over. I can easily say that there seems to be an awful lot of skinny fat midgets in soccer and whereas in baseball, you can't make it as a professional when you look like you smoke crack everyday. See how that works? You're arbitrarily defining "athlete" as something that only people with less than 10% body fat are capable of being. Prince Fielder, a player you love posting pics of, can bench 405 pounds. That's not "athletic?"


Yeah, baseball might have some players that are faster than the fastest futbol player. But baseball also has a lot of players that are comically slow, so slow that even bums from the street could beat them in a sprint. You don't get that on futbol.

See above. Speed isn't the only form of athleticism. Sure, there's some bums off the street that could beat David Ortiz in a footrace, but it's not likely one of them would be stronger than him, could throw harder than him. I can easily apply that logic to soccer. "Soccer has a lot of players that are comically weak, so weak that you could take a bum off the street and he would beat him in a strongman contest." Like basketball, American football, baseball has certain positions where speed and leaping ability are necessary over strength and where strength is necessary over speed and leaping.


You literally said on "average" and if you get the speed average of every professional futbol player in the World it is clearly going to be better than the speed average of every professional baseball player in the World. Because every position in futbol requires a very high level of athleticism.

I stand by that. The 4th fastest player in world football runs a "comically slow" 4.7 40 yard dash. You seem to think because soccer players are "lean and shredded" they're automatically faster. I also stand by baseball players being stronger on average and being able to jump higher on average. Furthermore, just because a baseball player plays a "non-athletic" position like pitcher it doesn't mean he's not athletic.

Pat here was drafted as pitcher by the Orioles:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE_-MoAUkAASHX8.jpg

Meanwhile, Ronaldo is tearing it up with his 31" vert, leaving the commentators in "awe." :lmao


Are you seriously going to use the semantics card? David Ortiz isn't a superstar? OK, let's just say very good players then.

He isn't anymore. You posted a pic of past his prime Ortiz. He was a lot leaner when he was a superstar. Besides, fat=/=unathletic.



[/QUOTE]Still boring as fuck and not as popular as it used to be.[/QUOTE]

Stats don't bear that out. Attendance is just as good as ever. If you're talking about television ratings, every sport (aside from Am. Football) isn't as "popular as it used to be" because there's more than 13 channels now.

I don't care if you find it boring. I totally understand that. If you didn't grow up with it, it's a hard game to come into. My issue is with the retarded arguments about athleticism put forth by soccer fans. They pretty much reduce it to stamina, which is the easiest thing to train for.

[td4mvp2k]

:lol @ comparing footsie a sport for boys to a sport for men

:lol would rather play tennis

[apalisoc_9]

So this beisbol? Honestly looks more like a shit taking contest to me...no wonder it's a dying a sport.

http://insidemedford.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/porrazzo.gif

[apalisoc_9]

who poos first?

[midnightpulp]

who told you that tbh? It's not even close to be true...

I don't care who it is. None of them would be near Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders, Jim Thorpe (played baseball) Mike Trout, etc. But Ronaldo is often celebrated as soccer's greatest all around athlete.

[midnightpulp]

i'm neutral here, but I can easily tell you that most of them start at 5-7 in a club i mean. It's practically unfathomable to start after 12.

It's unfathomable to start in baseball that late. There are rare exceptions, just like in soccer.

[TheGreatYacht]

So this beisbol? Honestly looks more like a shit taking contest to me...no wonder it's a dying a sport.

http://insidemedford.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/porrazzo.gif
:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

So this beisbol? Honestly looks more like a shit taking contest to me...no wonder it's a dying a sport.

http://insidemedford.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/porrazzo.gif

Soccer is gayer than Enrique Porker and ChumpDumper put together.

http://i.imgur.com/6aFwMi2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VWrXYG7.jpg

[midnightpulp]

So this beisbol? Honestly looks more like a shit taking contest to me...no wonder it's a dying a sport.

http://insidemedford.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/porrazzo.gif

This is soccer.

Look at the face of the dude in the red jersey. He's actually getting off on it.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/N_RLKKXbZg0/hqdefault.jpg

Trust me, Apa. You won't win a pic spam. There's so much gay shit that happens in soccer, we'd need a petabyte sized server to hold it all. Spurstalk would blow up before I got through posting 1% of soccer's faggotry.

[apalisoc_9]

Soccer is gayer than Enrique Porker and ChumpDumper put together.

http://i.imgur.com/6aFwMi2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VWrXYG7.jpg

There is no way something else is gayer than the bolded, IMO.

[Clipper Nation]

There is no way something else is gayer than the bolded, IMO.

The only thing gayer than Chump is Chump wearing a povertyball jersey, tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

The Football position with the least skill and athleticism, goalkeeper, is pretty comparable to a beisbol catcher tbh.... You stand still for 95% of the match, you catch balls, throw them forward, and you get to wear protective gloves :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Wow didn't know beisbol had amazing top 10 plays...Photos of said top plays.

http://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachments/photo/0436/7396/IMG_2142_medium.JPG

[midnightpulp]

http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ChiefFragrantDrafthorse1.gif

http://www.iwebstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/93.gif

http://i.imgur.com/bdLeQqh.gif

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rIlRKHFEXs0/hqdefault.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oxZaoPYJYLc/Ux4JBcDCc4I/AAAAAAACVBo/Y4R4ExuzAwM/s1600/soccer.jpg

[td4mvp2k]

:lol Footsie makes Jason Collins look straight

[apalisoc_9]

http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ChiefFragrantDrafthorse1.gif

http://www.iwebstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/93.gif



I see players running...This must not be baseball.

[Clipper Nation]

The Football position with the least skill and athleticism, goalkeeper, is pretty comparable to a beisbol catcher tbh.... You stand still for 95% of the match, you catch balls, throw them forward, and you get to wear protective gloves :lol

Catchers have to squat uncomfortably all game, actually catch the ball, call pitches, throw out runners, and frame pitches. Goaltenders just stand in front of a net scratching their balls while the game ends in a 0-0 tie.

[TheGreatYacht]

http://youtu.be/1FDrcWTSczs


http://youtu.be/wnDQkasEZWA

[Clipper Nation]

http://i.imgur.com/WwIn1yg.jpg

[midnightpulp]

Here's "diving" in baseball, which has a purpose other than to look like a faggot:

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/revere-catch-3.gif?w=1000

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/yasiel-puig-diving-catch-against-the-mets-a.gif?w=1000

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/8/2/8/132632828/062415_tor_donaldson_dive_medium_k3mg3afk.gif

[Raven]

I don't care who it is. None of them would be near Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders, Jim Thorpe (played baseball) Mike Trout, etc. But Ronaldo is often celebrated as soccer's greatest all around athlete.


well all those who say that, have not watched a game tbh. Theo Walcott runs a 10.30 100m. Martins used to do the whole field in frontflips without much effort. It's just never been about finding a niche in soccer/football, it's about resisting at levels above the threshold while combining the skills into it. Sure there are positions who are more exposed and others who are less, but still.

[apalisoc_9]

wow baseball is so boring that their TOP plays is of players jumping :lol

Any bodily action works as a top play in baseball I guess...

[Biernutz]

no yellow card for this.....


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/kickball/dump1_zps81466fe2.jpg

[TheGreatYacht]

Beisbol is so boring that fans fall asleep and accidentally fall off the top deck :wow

[lefty]

Mid posted something about baseball in Japan..While it;s true that it's still the number one sport there.

Futbol leagues in Japan only started in 1995 and futbol in general is called the "new generation" sport. :lol

it's essential a major threat to beisbol as the older generations die out.

Name me a sport that can get this popular in a country that only started to have their pro league in 95...:lol


Learning curve in favour of beisbol..

funniest shit I've read in a while. :lol


So this beisbol? Honestly looks more like a shit taking contest to me...no wonder it's a dying a sport.

http://insidemedford.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/porrazzo.gif

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[lefty20]

Kickball is so fucking boring fans have to bring fireworks to be entertained.

[AlexJones]

HarlemHeat37 watching the Jays game? Gibbons used David Price in relief, up 7-1, won't start him in game 5. :lmao Toronto coaches

[midnightpulp]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

That's wrong, Lefty. What would your boyhood hero Gary Carter think about you laughing at his position?

[Mitch]

Wouldn't be surprised if this was one of those knuckleheads in the stickball subforum

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8m70cftE01rvwq31o1_250.gif

[Reck]

:lmao

You dont want to get into a what's the gayer sport contest.

Soccer wins that hands down. There is gay shit going on on a minute to minute basis. :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

HarlemHeat37 watching the Jays game? Gibbons used David Price in relief, up 7-1, won't start him in game 5. :lmao Toronto coaches

Didn't watch it, but ya, not surprising..probably gonna go to game 5, though..

[AlexJones]

Didn't watch it, but ya, not surprising..probably gonna go to game 5, though..

:lol fuck, you were right about reddit too. These fucking morons think probability in a literal game of probabilities doesn't matter and support this move :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Fuking Jays..Lost 20 bucks already.

Should have never put money on toronto

[lefty]

That's wrong, Lefty. What would your boyhood hero Gary Carter think about you laughing at his position?

Rip Gary tbh

But lol beisbol

[DAF86]

But there's not an "awful lot of those type" of players in baseball. Your lot keeps posting the same handful of players over and over. I can easily say that there seems to be an awful lot of skinny fat midgets in soccer and whereas in baseball, you can't make it as a professional when you look like you smoke crack everyday. See how that works? You're arbitrarily defining "athlete" as something that only people with less than 10% body fat are capable of being. Prince Fielder, a player you love posting pics of, can bench 405 pounds. That's not "athletic?"



See above. Speed isn't the only form of athleticism. Sure, there's some bums off the street that could beat David Ortiz in a footrace, but it's not likely one of them would be stronger than him, could throw harder than him. I can easily apply that logic to soccer. "Soccer has a lot of players that are comically weak, so weak that you could take a bum off the street and he would beat him in a strongman contest." Like basketball, American football, baseball has certain positions where speed and leaping ability are necessary over strength and where strength is necessary over speed and leaping.



I stand by that. The 4th fastest player in world football runs a "comically slow" 4.7 40 yard dash. You seem to think because soccer players are "lean and shredded" they're automatically faster. I also stand by baseball players being stronger on average and being able to jump higher on average. Furthermore, just because a baseball player plays a "non-athletic" position like pitcher it doesn't mean he's not athletic.

Pat here was drafted as pitcher by the Orioles:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE_-MoAUkAASHX8.jpg

Meanwhile, Ronaldo is tearing it up with his 31" vert, leaving the commentators in "awe." :lmao



He isn't anymore. You posted a pic of past his prime Ortiz. He was a lot leaner when he was a superstar. Besides, fat=/=unathletic.


Stats don't bear that out. Attendance is just as good as ever. If you're talking about television ratings, every sport (aside from Am. Football) isn't as "popular as it used to be" because there's more than 13 channels now.

I don't care if you find it boring. I totally understand that. If you didn't grow up with it, it's a hard game to come into. My issue is with the retarded arguments about athleticism put forth by soccer fans. They pretty much reduce it to stamina, which is the easiest thing to train for.

You are basing a lot of your arguments either on personal opinions, individual examples or getting away from the topic of the thread.

You are making this more boring than baseball itself. The fuck are you even arguing? Baseball, physically, is a lot less demanding than pretty much any other sport in the World. This is common knowledge. That's why overweight people can play it (no matter how few of those players you claim to be now, they're still there. Try to find one fat futbol player) and why baseball has the highest age average of any major sport.

Yeah, the fastest baseball player might be faster than the fastest futbol player. Futbol players on average are still faster than baseball players.

Yeah, the baseball player with the highest leap might jump higher than the futbol player with the highest leap. Futbol players on average still jump higher than baseball players. (lol at the thought of all those fat and old DH and Pitchers trying to jump)

Yeah, strength might be in favour of baseball, I could give you that. Still, you're underrating futbol players strength, remember leg strenght is also strength. I doubt there are athletes with more leg strenght than futbol players. This is how midget futbol players look like:


http://www.blaugranas.com/media/galeria/25/2/0/3/0/n_f_c_barcelona_lionel_messi-6630302.jpeg

Endurance, no contest.

Stamina, lol.

What else is there? Quickness? Futbol players with all those fast first steps, stop and goes, turnarounds and quick little moves to drible past players makes this a no contest too.

Seriously, I don't know what you're arguing. Stop trying to win a lost battle and move on to more productive things like trolling Lakers fans, thing at which you're the GOAT son.

[apalisoc_9]

Seriously if you can still play at 45 and be fat at the same time..That speaks volume of how demanding that particular sport it.

[midnightpulp]

You are basing a lot of your arguments either on personal opinions, individual examples or getting away from the topic of the thread.

No, I'm basing my arguments on the stats I could provide that reasonably measure a few core athletic traits of the players in question. You're the one making qualitative arguments and reducing athleticism to your arbitrary definition of it ("uh, if you're not shredded with 10% body fat and can run 5 miles, you can't be a great athlete!")


Baseball, physically, is a lot less demanding than pretty much any other sport in the World. This is common knowledge. That's why overweight people can play it (no matter how few of those players you claim to be now, they're still there. Try to find one fat futbol player) and why baseball has the highest age average of any major sport.

Again, you're basing physicality on your narrow definition of it. I have no clue which sport sends players into retirement faster, but just because you don't run around for 5 miles during a game doesn't mean that baseball isn't physically demanding. Pitchers, without fail, will need surgery once, twice, sometimes multiple times throughout their career. And hitting imparts massive torque to your back, lower body, and hips. All you see is the 4 times the hitter bats in a game and not the countless hours of batting practice they put in. Average age is also a very poor indicator of how "demanding" a sport is. Boxing is probably the most demanding sport there is and there have been world champions in their late 30's and mid 40's. Hockey is another rough, demanding sport, and players routinely play into their 40's. Your argument doesn't hold water in this case.


Yeah, the fastest baseball player might be faster than the fastest futbol player. Futbol players on average are still faster than baseball players.

Where's the stats? Again, you see "fat" players and think they can't run, but American football has shown us that "fat" athletes can run under 5.0 seconds 40's.


Yeah, the baseball player with the highest leap might jump higher than the futbol player with the highest leap. Futbol players on average still jump higher than baseball players. (lol at the thought of all those fat and old DH and Pitchers trying to jump)

See above. And again with referencing the fat DHs and relief pitchers. They're a very small minority in the league, as much as minority as dough, skinny fat midgets/Lurches are in soccer that you know couldn't jump six inches in the air if their life depended on it.


Yeah, strength might be in favour of baseball, I could give you that. Still, you're underrating futbol players strength, remember leg strenght is also strength. I doubt there are athletes with more leg strenght than futbol players.

Most of your throwing and hitting power is generated from the legs, and if vertical leaps tell us anything, my bet is with baseball players having superior leg strength. Baseball players are also 20-30lb heavier on average (more weight on your frame=stronger), so you're really reaching here.


This is how midget futbol players look like:


http://www.blaugranas.com/media/galeria/25/2/0/3/0/n_f_c_barcelona_lionel_messi-6630302.jpeg

There's nothing impressive about Messi's physique from a musculature point of view (:lol That chest). His physique is primed for stamina over strength.


Endurance, no contest.

Each sport requires a different kind of endurance, so the comparison is fruitless.


Stamina, lol.

Yes, as I've admitted.


What else is there? Quickness? Futbol players with all those fast first steps, stop and goes, turnarounds and quick little moves to drible past players makes this a no contest too.

I've admitted quickness in favor of the soccer player, as well. But strength (lower and upper body), sprint speed, and leaping go to the baseball player.

Mike Trout is becoming the mold for the outfield position. 6'2" 230lb, 21mph top speed (faster than Ronaldo), 35" NO STEP vertical (check the box jump), and probably around a 350-400lb bench press. No soccer player on earth has attributes and a size to speed ratio like that.

The infield mold aside from 1st base and catcher is 180-190lp speedsters (sometimes faster than those outfielders) who can also leap and have to have world class hand eye coordination and throwing power. Dee Gordon here was once a highly recruited basketball player:

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/5/3/2/132705532/062415_mia_gordon_leapingcatch_med_ubjs6sc9.gif

And those players aren't "exceptions," they're becoming the rule. The fatties are the exception.

I don't care about those few "fatties." There's more than enough athleticism on an MLB roster to cover for their deficiencies in our mythical soccer players vs. baseball players decathlon meet. That's what you're not getting. Baseball is more specialized than soccer, the "fatties" can be fit into a limited role if they're good enough. That said, the whole "if fat people can play it, it must not be demanding" logic is nonsense.

Better endurance than any soccer player who's ever lived (even at that weight and age):

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/03/80/51/slideshow_651803_george-foreman.jpg

Yes, baseball isn't boxing, but if Messi tried to throw twenty 95mph like "fatty" Bartolo Colon, his arm would be in a sling. As easily as you say, "well, you'll never see a fat player in soccer," I can say, "You'll never see a 5'5" midget become a pitcher."



Seriously, I don't know what you're arguing. Stop trying to win a lost battle and move on to more productive things like trolling Lakers fans, thing at which you're the GOAT son.

And declaring victory for themselves is precisely what those Lakers fans do when they don't have a coherent rebuttal.

[TheGreatYacht]

http://youtu.be/a5P8-Rm5zkU
This is not an athlete.

The MLB turning a blind eye towards steroids to make the sport watchable is a fact.

[midnightpulp]

http://youtu.be/a5P8-Rm5zkU
This is not an athlete.

The MLB turning a blind eye towards steroids to make the sport watchable is a fact.

And yet that guy runs faster than Ronaldo :lol

This is not an athlete:

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/soccer-miss.gif

[midnightpulp]

The fuck?

http://i.imgur.com/XYDJP.jpg

[DAF86]

No, I'm basing my arguments on the stats I could provide that reasonably measure a few core athletic traits of the players in question. You're the one making qualitative arguments and reducing athleticism to your arbitrary definition of it ("uh, if you're not shredded with 10% body fat and can run 5 miles, you can't be a great athlete!")



Again, you're basing physicality on your narrow definition of it. I have no clue which sport sends players into retirement faster, but just because you don't run around for 5 miles during a game doesn't mean that baseball isn't physically demanding. Pitchers, without fail, will need surgery once, twice, sometimes multiple times throughout their career. And hitting imparts massive torque to your back, lower body, and hips. All you see is the 4 times the hitter bats in a game and not the countless hours of batting practice they put in. Average age is also a very poor indicator of how "demanding" a sport is. Boxing is probably the most demanding sport there is and there have been world champions in their late 30's and mid 40's. Hockey is another rough, demanding sport, and players routinely play into their 40's. Your argument doesn't hold water in this case.



Where's the stats? Again, you see "fat" players and think they can't run, but American football has shown us that "fat" athletes can run under 5.0 seconds 40's.



See above. And again with referencing the fat DHs and relief pitchers. They're a very small minority in the league, as much as minority as dough, skinny fat midgets/Lurches are in soccer that you know couldn't jump six inches in the air if their life depended on it.

Baseball rosters consists of around 30 to mid 30's number of players of which about 2/3 of the spots are occupied by pitchers. Just on that alone you have 2/3 of the baseball roster that is less athletic than all the players on a futbol roster. Then you have about 3 catchers, 2 1B's and 1 DH. Too many weak links. You would need all the remaining 10 spots to be filled with a mixture of Usain Bolt, Lebron James, Michael Phelps, Floyd Mayweather and whoever the highest leaper and best marothonist in the World are. And that would probably still wouldn't be enough.

Futbol players are trained to have a very high level of athleticism on every athletic trait there is and like you said baseball has too many specialist. Unless you don't know how averages work I don't know how can you say that a baseball roster would be more athletic on average than a football player.


Most of your throwing and hitting power is generated from the legs, and if vertical leaps tell us anything, my bet is with baseball players having superior leg strength. Baseball players are also 20-30lb heavier on average (more weight on your frame=stronger), so you're really reaching here.

Apparently the guy with the fastest fast ball is some guy named Chapman. His legs look very skinny to me.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Aroldis_Chapman_2010_%283%29.jpg

This is more or less how all futbol players legs look like:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c8/ae/c5/c8aec5f2da96da0a7fe1207fce44c0d2.jpg

Here's a midget legs

http://achikhasi.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/diego-maradona.jpg

Which look stronger to you? Either way, I don't care. I have already conceded strength.




Each sport requires a different kind of endurance, so the comparison is fruitless.

Outside of the staring pitcher, the only endurance baseball requires is the endurance of trying not to fall asleep during the slow ass, 5 hours games. GTFO. :lol



I've admitted quickness in favor of the soccer player, as well. But strength (lower and upper body), sprint speed, and leaping go to the baseball player.

Mike Trout is becoming the mold for the outfield position. 6'2" 230lb, 21mph top speed (faster than Ronaldo), 35" NO STEP vertical (check the box jump), and probably around a 350-400lb bench press. No soccer player on earth has attributes and a size to speed ratio like that.

The infield mold aside from 1st base and catcher is 180-190lp speedsters (sometimes faster than those outfielders) who can also leap and have to have world class hand eye coordination and throwing power. Dee Gordon here was once a highly recruited basketball player:

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/5/3/2/132705532/062415_mia_gordon_leapingcatch_med_ubjs6sc9.gif

And those players aren't "exceptions," they're becoming the rule. The fatties are the exception.

I don't care about those few "fatties." There's more than enough athleticism on an MLB roster to cover for their deficiencies in our mythical soccer players vs. baseball players decathlon meet. That's what you're not getting. Baseball is more specialized than soccer, the "fatties" can be fit into a limited role if they're good enough. That said, the whole "if fat people can play it, it must not be demanding" logic is nonsense.

Better endurance than any soccer player who's ever lived (even at that weight and age):

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/03/80/51/slideshow_651803_george-foreman.jpg

Yes, baseball isn't boxing, but if Messi tried to throw twenty 95mph like "fatty" Bartolo Colon, his arm would be in a sling. As easily as you say, "well, you'll never see a fat player in soccer," I can say, "You'll never see a 5'5" midget become a pitcher."

See the first part of my reply for the answer to this. Unathletic players aren't the exception, more than 2/3 of baseball rosters are made of pitchers, catchers, 1B's and DH. The athletic ones are the ones that are the exception. And no, just because a guy specializes on a specific athletic trait doesn't mean that he is more athletic than a guy that doesn't stand out on any athletic trait (although futbol players do stand out on stamina) but it's above average on every athletic trait there is.


And declaring victory for themselves is precisely what those Lakers fans do when they don't have a coherent rebuttal.

I think I'm giving you more than a coherent rebuttal, tbh. :lol

[midnightpulp]

Baseball rosters consists of around 30 to mid 30's number of players of which about 2/3 of the spots are occupied by pitchers. Just on that alone you have 2/3 of the baseball roster that is less athletic than all the players on a futbol roster. Then you have about 3 catchers, 2 1B's and 1 DH. Too many weak links. You would need all the remaining 10 spots to be filled with a mixture of Usain Bolt, Lebron James, Michael Phelps, Floyd Mayweather and whoever the highest leaper and best marothonist in the World are. And that would probably still wouldn't be enough.

Futbol players are trained to have a very high level of athleticism on every athletic trait there is and like you said baseball has too many specialist. Unless you don't know how averages work I don't know how can you say that a baseball roster would be more athletic on average than a football player.

Two errors here. An EPL roster is 25 deep. Since baseball uses their bench more, they need to have bigger rosters, so I can trim the fat to the best 25. I'm confident an MLB team would beat a top soccer team in 25 vs 25 decathlon meet. The other error is assuming that all DHs, 1st basemen, catchers, and pitchers don't have above average athleticism. 1st basemen and DHs (which wouldn't even be on the roster if an NL team competed) are the "power lifters" of the team and would clean up in our decathlon at the shot put, javelin, and discus. Odds are, the best soccer jav, discus, and shot put thrower would be worse than his worst MLB counterpart. The soccer players sweep the 1500m, but I don't think by enough of a margin to offset them getting trounced in the power events. Sprinting I'm going with the MLB players as well as long jump and high jump. Hurdles, even. Pole Vault, edge to the soccer players for being lighter. And not all soccer players are athletic freaks. There's very poor athletes out there (relatively speaking) in pro soccer who get by on stamina and skill. David Beckham comes to mind. Always looked like he was moving in pudding.



Which look stronger to you? Either way, I don't care. I have already conceded strength.

The only way to know this for a fact is through stats. Leg press stats, squats, etc. Although you know as well as I do that Maradona and Ronaldo's quads aren't typical? I can easily post the legs of top players that look more "normal." And yeah, Ronaldo probably beats Chapman in leg strength contest, but if you averaged it out over two rosters, the baseball players would have a higher mark, because their highest ten would be considerably higher than the soccer team's highest ten, just due to the fact that it's rare for a soccer team to have players weighing over 180lb, while a baseball roster will have many players weighing over 200lb that are shredded freaks.



Outside of the staring pitcher, the only endurance baseball requires is the endurance of trying not to fall asleep during the slow ass, 5 hours games. GTFO. :lol

You're discounting hours of batting practice. That shit chews up your body. Trust me. Look how many golfers have back and hip problems and such? Even Tiger's body is failing him, and he's a physical specimen.



Unathletic players aren't the exception, more than 2/3 of baseball rosters are made of pitchers, catchers, 1B's and DH. The athletic ones are the ones that are the exception. And no, just because a guy specializes on a specific athletic trait doesn't mean that he is more athletic than a guy that doesn't stand out on any athletic trait (although futbol players do stand out on stamina) but it's above average on every athletic trait there is.


See above. Again, you assume those guys aren't athletic. Albert Pujols bench presses 450lb. Can run fast for his size. Quick reflexes having to play first base. How isn't that "athletic?" Pujols is definitely above average in most athletic traits. And I know baseball players aren't known for their stamina, but we actually don't know how well conditioned they are. A couple of hours of batting practice works you out as if you were on a rowing machine for that amount of time. Running around isn't the only kind of aerobic exercise.



I think I'm giving you more than a coherent rebuttal, tbh. :lol

Your reply here was coherent. My goal with all of this is to dispel the assertion at the start of this thread that you don't need to be athletic to play baseball at a high level. You can find it slow, boring, whatever, I don't care, but baseball players need to be just as dedicated and "athletic" to succeed in the game as any other major sport. Posting the "fatties" is like posting Peter Crouch and saying if someone who looks like this can play soccer professionally, then it must not be a demanding sport. There's always exceptions.

[lefty]

:lol someone got to MP

[TheGreatYacht]

Dodgers/Mets 3.3 rating :rollin

[Killakobe81]

Dodgers/Mets 3.3 rating :rollin

Crazy number. That is two if the biggest markets I know it's a stretch :lol but imagine if the LAkers/Knicks played in a NBA Finals they would double that easy. Im pretty sure the mediocre MNF game last night beat the WS ...

[TheGreatYacht]

Crazy number. That is two if the biggest markets I know it's a stretch :lol but imagine if the LAkers/Knicks played in a NBA Finals they would double that easy. Im pretty sure the mediocre MNF game last night beat the WS ...
That POS MNF game with backup QB's put up an 8.5 rating

:lol beisbol
:lol what you're forced to watch when there's no NFL and NBA

[lefty]

Dodgers/Mets 3.3 rating :rollin


Crazy number. That is two if the biggest markets I know it's a stretch :lol but imagine if the LAkers/Knicks played in a NBA Finals they would double that easy. Im pretty sure the mediocre MNF game last night beat the WS ...


That POS MNF game with backup QB's put up an 8.5 rating

:lol beisbol
:lol what you're forced to watch when there's no NFL and NBA

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[Pelicans78]

The national ratings for baseball are never that great compared to the local TV ratings which are astronomical. That's why teams have monster TV deals making baseball teams the 2nd most profitable sports teams in this country behind the NFL.

[Pelicans78]

The Royals averaged 12.3 rating this season on their local telecasts.

[midnightpulp]

Crazy number. That is two if the biggest markets I know it's a stretch :lol but imagine if the LAkers/Knicks played in a NBA Finals they would double that easy. Im pretty sure the mediocre MNF game last night beat the WS ...

That wasn't the ratings for last night's game. Worth nothing, it's the 2nd game of a 1st round matchup on TBS, and under those circumstances, 3.3 is a strong number.

Beat last year's Game 7 (which always draw) between the Clippers and Spurs:


NBA Western Conference First Round Game 7: San Antonio at L.A. Clippers - 2.8

And the ratings for Game 7 between the Clippers and Rockets on ABC, two strong markets:


Game 7 of the Clippers/Rockets NBA playoff series drew a 4.4 final rating and 6.9 million viewers on ABC last Sunday,

Ratings from Game 1 of Cubs/Cardinals:


The Cubs/Cardinals game averaged 5,376,000 viewers, with a peak of seven million total from 9:00-9:15 PM. Overall, ratings for the game represented a 107% increase in total viewers,

[Bynumite]

:lmao Snoozeball

[Pelicans78]

:lmao Snoozeball

Describes the Lakers to be honest.

[td4mvp2k]

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:lol closet fan... gtfo

[DAF86]

:lol rulling out runs because the ball gets lost