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cheguevara
10-14-2015, 08:20 PM
that idiot Ash Carter put his foot in his mouth again. his comments regarding China's claims to the South china sea were taken badly by the Chinese...

China hits back at US in row over South China Sea

Asked about Mr Carter's comments, Ms Hua said: "I want to point out that some countries, in a region far from their own lands, have deployed offensive weaponry on a large scale and flexed their military muscles again and again in the South China Sea.

On Tuesday, US Defence Secretary Ash Carter expressed "strong concerns" over island-building, and defended Washington's plans.

"Make no mistake, the United States will fly, sail and operate wherever international law allows, as we do around the world, and the South China Sea will not be an exception," he said at a news conference with the Australian foreign and defence ministers.
"We will do that in the time and places of our choosing," he added, according to Reuters news agency.

and now the US put itself in a corner:

The US now has to decide whether to send in its ships and risk confrontation, or back down and look weak, our analyst says.


:lmao Ash Carter. now US not only getting shit pushed in by Russia in Syria but possibly Chine in the South China sea :lol

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-34529863

cheguevara
10-14-2015, 08:21 PM
Australia just bailed on US. they on their own on this :lol

Australia won't join US Navy patrols near Chinese atols in South China Sea

Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/politics/national/australia-wont-join-us-navy-patrols-near-chinese-atols-in-south-china-sea-20151014-gk8plz?stb=twt#ixzz3oayMi6in
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pgardn
10-14-2015, 08:52 PM
Australia makes no difference to us. The US will continue to operate in international waters just like the Chinese do. If the Chinese decide to make new boundaries, we will not observe them. It's very simple. Our ships will go where they have always gone. Just because the Chinese decide to build man made islands and claim them will not change the observed international boundaries. Simples.

And get get out of here with the Russians pushing anyone's shit in Syria. They just got themselves involved in a mess. Welcome to hell... Some of the most juvenile takes on international affairs we will ever read, like this is some sort of backyard, middle school, name calling contest.

That being said Ash Carter seems to be some sort of dweeb. Agree there. Clean up the rhetoric.

boutons_deux
10-15-2015, 05:08 AM
australia sells a lot of coal to China, Aussie conservatives destroying some of the Great Barrier Reef for deep water coal port for Chinese coal exports.

boutons_deux
10-15-2015, 05:11 AM
natural resources battles, wars will get worse as population adds Bs and resources deplete.

fresh water, land for food, minerals, fishing rights(fish stocks mostly collapsed already).

hater
10-15-2015, 06:14 AM
Lets see if Americans follow their bark with action. If they chicken out of this one boy it would be embarrasing

pgardn
10-15-2015, 06:47 AM
Lets see if Americans follow their bark with action. If they chicken out of this one boy it would be embarrasing

What action?

hater
10-15-2015, 08:03 AM
What action?

Read the article. They had planned to parade their warships through the disputed waters. Lets see if they do it or chicken out again.

boutons_deux
10-15-2015, 08:27 AM
u mean right wing clowns aka liberals..bunch of idiots

lol ethics and standards means jackshit when it comes to money

yeah, yeah, I know you upside down guys got your pol party names backwards, too.

in2deep
10-15-2015, 07:13 PM
LOL so the Australians stood by the US when planning the trip but decided not to send their ships? pussies

spurraider21
10-15-2015, 10:44 PM
ron paul's foreign policy >

hater
10-16-2015, 07:20 AM
what did you think happen last year when russia sent to 2 nuke ships of the coasts of australia when putin was here for a conference? lmao shitted themselves cause dumbass liberal leader wanting to fight him after that malaysian aeroplane was shot down in ukraine...

LOL

Australia is a country of wankers. They are basically a colony of the US. Even their people are like americans, only more ignorant, more racist and way fatter.

I been there many times and love the place but the people suck. Good thing the asians are taking over that chunk of land.

pgardn
10-16-2015, 07:23 AM
Read the article. They had planned to parade their warships through the disputed waters. Lets see if they do it or chicken out again.

This action will not make or break our use of international water.
Sideshow.

The real deal will be when different countries start to drill the areas in "dispute" for hydrocarbons.

pgardn
10-16-2015, 07:27 AM
natural resources battles, wars will get worse as population adds Bs and resources deplete.

fresh water, land for food, minerals, fishing rights(fish stocks mostly collapsed already).


Are you worried about China building man made islands on coral atolls?

Mark Celibate
10-16-2015, 07:31 AM
Aussies made a smart decision to stay away from the mess tbh. The strategic point lies in the East China sea, where China and Japan have territorial disputes. Meanwhile those Southeast Asian countries are irrelevant that no one gives a shit about.

pgardn
10-16-2015, 07:40 AM
Aussies made a smart decision to stay away from the mess tbh. The strategic point lies in the East China sea, where China and Japan have territorial disputes. Meanwhile those Southeast Asian countries are irrelevant that no one gives a shit about.

No they are not Franklin.

Oil. Oil in some of those now disputed areas.

hater
10-16-2015, 08:15 AM
This action will not make or break our use of international water.

they are not international waters to the chinese.



The real deal will be when different countries start to drill the areas in "dispute" for hydrocarbons.

If anyone will drill on it it will be China. If anyone else attempts to drill on it it will be War.

pgardn
10-16-2015, 08:20 AM
Correct.

Because they have dredged crap off the bottom and piled it on coral atolls and then claimed the new "Island" part of China.

pgardn
10-16-2015, 08:26 AM
they are not international waters to the chinese.



If anyone will drill on it it will be China. If anyone else attempts to drill on it it will be War.

I don't know about that. But I do agree with the next step for China. They will establish a military presence on the Islands and probably make it very difficult to drill for other countries by just getting in their way. China does not seek direct military conflict usually. They go to some extremes to avoid it. They would have already stormed Tiawan and other disputed Islands if they really wanted war.