NFL Week 6 Betting Thread

[Will Hunting]

Here's what I'm playing or teasing so far:
Cleveland +5: they've beat the spread in both games since losing to Oakland and are at home against a Denver team that's relied on defensive scoring to cover the spread.

New England -7: they're going to try to humiliate the colts this week. The colts d line sucks so not having solder won't be a big deal for this game.

New York Jets -6: coming off a bye week and couldn't ask for a better matchup at home.

Seahawks -7: don't trust them to cover but trust them to win so this is a great tease. Their season is essentially over if they lose, and all advanced metrics say carolinas record is fools gold.

Minnesota -3: Minnesota ATS against AFC teams has been good since last year and they're coming off a bye week against a team in shambles.


Games I'm staying away from:
Arizona -3 @ Pittsburg: don't trust Pitt with Vick starting and don't trust Arizona in an early start b2b road game.

atlanta -4 @ New Orleans: NO will probably have 2-3 random games this year where they overachieve and look like they're in 09 form like they did last year against Green Bay.

Chicago @ Detroit: Detroits schedule has been brutal so far and it's unclear how they'll look against another bad team.

Baltimore @ San Fran: Impossible to predict how this one turns out.

NY Giants @ philly: I'm still too scared to bet on any philly games. If NY is getting points and we find out Cruz, Odell and Randle are all playing then this game looks tempting.

[Avante]

NE has owned the Luck Colts.

2014..42-20 and 45-7
2013..43-22
2012..59-24

At no time did we see a worst Colts team than this one. Definate play!

The Jets are 1-6 ATS coming off a bye week, can't ignore that. That might change with new coaching but that's a ...? Pass.

The Panthers have played the Seahawks close with one exception. That Seahawks 0 line, yikes! Don't like the '"spor" from an ATS perspective.

The Vikes are 0-5 ATS coming off a bye week, maybe that will change with Zimmer. I can see ignoring the 0-5 because this Chiefs team is like you said in shambles. Might pull the Trigger on this one myself.

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Look at the GB game. The Chargers coming off a short week on the road vs a team at home "again". I get the number is huge but I can see 32-17, 28-10 as a very real possibility in this "spot". The Packers are hot the Chargers are not.

Chargers 4-6 in their last 10 road games, the Packers are 11-0 at home.

As of right now giving...

NE
GB

...some serious thought. Having a hard time finding good "spots" this week, a lot of games with too many...??? Might play that Vikes game.

The Lions are 5-0 ATS last five vs Bears in Detroit, the Bears are heading into a bye week, and....the Bears are 1-14 ATS coming off a non conference opponet. BUT....can we play a team 0-5 with coach vs QB problems?

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Those games you tossed out, yep, that's where ya start. Weeding out games, trying to widdle it down to 3-6 where you can find reasons/logic as to why one team should cover the number. If ya do the work you will hit 3 of 5, 6 of 10, that's all anyone can hope for.

Obviously, turnovers/injuries will alway fuck up the best laid plans. But you did know the right side.

[Will Hunting]

NE has owned the Luck Colts.

2014..42-20 and 45-7
2013..43-22
2012..59-24

At no time did we see a worst Colts team than this one. Definate play!

The Jets are 1-6 ATS coming off a bye week, can't ignore that. That might change with new coaching but that's a ...? Pass.

The Panthers have played the Seahawks close with one exception. That Seahawks 0 line, yikes! Don't like the '"spor" from an ATS perspective.

The Vikes are 0-5 ATS coming off a bye week, maybe that will change with Zimmer. I can see ignoring the 0-5 because this Chiefs team is like you said in shambles. Might pull the Trigger on this one myself.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Look at the GB game. The Chargers coming off a short week on the road vs a team at home "again". I get the number is huge but I can see 32-17, 28-10 as a very real possibility in this "spot". The Packers are hot the Chargers are not.

Chargers 4-6 in their last 10 road games, the Packers are 11-0 at home.

As of right now giving...

NE
GB

...some serious thought. Having a hard time finding good "spots" this week, a lot of games with too many...??? Might play that Vikes game.

The Lions are 5-0 ATS last five vs Bears in Detroit, the Bears are heading into a bye week, and....the Bears are 1-14 ATS coming off a non conference opponet. BUT....can we play a team 0-5 with coach vs QB problems?

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Those games you tossed out, yep, that's where ya start. Weeding out games, trying to widdle it down to 3-6 where you can find reasons/logic as to why one team should cover the number. If ya do the work you will hit 3 of 5, 6 of 10, that's all anyone can hope for.

Obviously, turnovers/injuries will alway fuck up the best laid plans. But you did know the right side.

I don't put much stock in the coming off bye week numbers from 2-3+ years ago. There's too much turnover in the NFL to look at a trends that dated, personnel/coaches change too frequently.

I'm tempted by the GB game but GB's offense has slowed down the last few weeks and the Chargers w/ Rivers are always a Jekyll & Hyde team that never blows anyone out but doesn't get blown out either. 11 points is lot to cover against a team with a good QB. IMO it's a game to include in a teaser but not a good straight up bet.

[Avante]

I don't put much stock in the coming off bye week numbers from 2-3+ years ago. There's too much turnover in the NFL to look at a trends that dated, personnel/coaches change too frequently.

I'm tempted by the GB game but GB's offense has slowed down the last few weeks and the Chargers w/ Rivers are always a Jekyll & Hyde team that never blows anyone out but doesn't get blown out either. 11 points is lot to cover against a team with a good QB. IMO it's a game to include in a teaser but not a good straight up bet.

Trust me, if a team has the same coach/QB you take into consideration any strong trends, sure, with a new coach, QB you start over.

Don't iignore any numbers like 6-0, there will always be a good reason for....6-0 or stronger trends.
GB is 8-0 ATS the last three seasons laying double digits. But....I do get where you're at on this. I rarely play a number like that.

With Andrew Luck or three seasons and five weeks if ya simply took the Colts ATS vs the division, you'd be....16-3-2.

[HarlemHeat37]

Not betting these games, but trying out a new system I've been tinkering with the past 2 years..so far, it's hitting at 76%, this season, which I highly doubt will be sustainable, tbh..expecting it will end up around 60%, which would be great..

Not going to bet them, though, just testing vs. the opening lines:

Saints +3(already hit)
Bengals -1
Browns +4.5
Bears +3.5
Jets -6
Dolphins +2
Packers -9.5
49ers +2.5
Patriots -7
Eagles -3.5

Strongest plays:
1. Packers
2. Jets
3. Patriots
4. Eagles
5. 49ers

[Avante]

Not betting these games, but trying out a new system I've been tinkering with the past 2 years..so far, it's hitting at 76%, this season, which I highly doubt will be sustainable, tbh..expecting it will end up around 60%, which would be great..

Not going to bet them, though, just testing vs. the opening lines:

Saints +3(already hit)
Bengals -1
Browns +4.5
Bears +3.5
Jets -6
Dolphins +2
Packers -9.5
49ers +2.5
Patriots -7
Eagles -3.5

Strongest plays:
1. Packers
2. Jets
3. Patriots
4. Eagles
5. 49ers

Talk me into why the Eagles are among the best plays in ths "spot"..?

[bigzak25]

Skins will be missing our starting pro bowl lt Trent Williams and our starting center. Lots of skins fans conceding this one...but hell, I never say die! Eff the jets!

[Avante]

This is something I use as another tool afte week 4, when we have some info.

http://www.nfl.com/standings

Look at NE, they are plus 73, now look at Indy at minus 14.

That is strong, dramatic! Something you can't ignore. Sure a plus 20 vs a mius 10...no big deal but a plus 73 vs a minus 14, this deserves a serious look.

Let me tell ya something, when I first started doing this I was like a lot of you, it was.....how can all that shit actually mean anything, talk about bullshit, there it is. Then I bought a book on beating the NFL point spread written by Wayne Allyn Root. He broke it all down and explained trends and tendancies, so I began using the techniques he used. What to look for, how to zero in on "spots". I'm telling ya there is a science to this, sure sure turnovers/injuries will fuck up any system, but yu aren't looking to win more than 60% of the time, anything else isn't realistic.

There is no way in hell anyone can win $$$$$ doing this without having some system, doing the work.

If I knew I wan't going to win there is no way I would do this here, knowing how all of you are dying to....YOU SUCK~~~~....while totally ignoring the wins, which is funny. But that's how it is on these boards. I do get a kick out of it.


Smart guys cool the...HAHA YOU SUCK....because it will always get easier, the first 8 weeks far harder to figure than the last 8 when we start seeing the playoff drive and those wanting the season to end.

Root
Sports handicapper[edit (http://www.spurstalk.com/w/index.php?title=Wayne_Allyn_Root&action=edit&section=3&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]Root's TV handicapping career began in New York City on WNBC (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/WNBC) radio (now WFAN (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/WFAN)) in the early 1980s. He moved onto NBC (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/NBC) "Source Radio Network" syndicated (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Radio_syndication) around the country in over 100 markets (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Media_market) as a sports talk host (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Talk_show). He later became one of the youngest anchormen (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Anchorman) and national TV hosts in America from 1989 through the early 1990s on Financial News Network (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Financial_News_Network) (FNN), now known as CNBC (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/CNBC).

This guy knows his stuff, I;m a student.

[Will Hunting]

Regarding my OP, wasn't able to get pats -7 so I bet them -10.

Bet the Hawks/packers as a 7 point teaser so Seahawks even and packers -4.

[HarlemHeat37]

Not betting these games, but trying out a new system I've been tinkering with the past 2 years..so far, it's hitting at 76%, this season, which I highly doubt will be sustainable, tbh..expecting it will end up around 60%, which would be great..

Not going to bet them, though, just testing vs. the opening lines:

Saints +3(already hit)
Bengals -1
Browns +4.5
Bears +3.5
Jets -6
Dolphins +2
Packers -9.5
49ers +2.5
Patriots -7
Eagles -3.5

Strongest plays:
1. Packers
2. Jets
3. Patriots
4. Eagles
5. 49ers

:lol this system is hitting at a ridiculous rate, tbh..gonna have to start betting it blindly, although I still expect serious regression soon..

[Will Hunting]

:lol this system is hitting at a ridiculous rate, tbh..gonna have to start betting it blindly, although I still expect serious regression soon..

PM me details about whatever system you're using :lol

[SuperCam]

Calling statistical variance a bonafide system result :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Another one..damn..

[HarlemHeat37]

I'll PM you the results for week 7 on Wednesday or Thursday..
PM me details about whatever system you're using :lol

[AlexJones]

I'll PM you the results for week 7 on Wednesday or Thursday..

How you feel about the weedman as prime minister, bro?

[313]

:lol this system is hitting at a ridiculous rate, tbh..gonna have to start betting it blindly, although I still expect serious regression soon..
Im new to sports betting. Those are the listed spreads from Sunday and you bet on or against them? or did you make up your own spreads?

[chunticakes]

:lol this system is hitting at a ridiculous rate, tbh..gonna have to start betting it blindly, although I still expect serious regression soon..

I want in on your system too. I was an atrocious 1-5 this week :bang

[313]

I want in on your system too. I was an atrocious 1-5 this week :bang
:wow what were your bets? It seems pretty easy

[chunticakes]

:wow what were your bets? It seems pretty easy

Actually I went 2-5. Didn't give myself enough credit.

Atlanta (doubled)
Houston
Kansas City
Arizona
New England
New York Giants

By far my worst week of the year. 20-15 thus far, tbh.

[AlexJones]

Hammering Jets +9 on Sunday

[HarlemHeat37]

Bills -4
Browns +6.5
Bucs +3.5
Cowboys +3.5
Lions +3
Patriots -9
Chargers -4
Panthers -3

[Will Hunting]

My bets:

Jets +16 and Browns +13 (7 point teaser)
Bills +1.5 and Falcons even (6 point teaser)
Chargers +2 and Colts +1.6 (6 point teaser)
Tampa Bay +3.5
Cardinals -9
Panthers -3

[SpursforSix]

Used HH list to confirm several of these that I was wobbling on.
Bucs +3.5
Cowboys +3.5
Lions +3
Patriots -9
Chargers -4
Panthers -3
Colts -5
Seahawks -7

Adding Atlanta...-7

[SpursforSix]

Bills -4
Browns +6.5
Bucs +3.5
Cowboys +3.5
Lions +3
Patriots -9
Chargers -4
Panthers -3

Did you accidentally post the opposite of the recommendations?

[HarlemHeat37]

Did you accidentally post the opposite of the recommendations?

:lol regression was expected, tbh..Patriots and Lions hurt the outcomes in the final minute, too..

Shouldn't blindly follow systems, though, as I said earlier..Chargers have a bid history vs. Oakland, 90% of the fans in their stadium are Raiders fans and week after the heartbreak vs. GB, for example, days systems don't take it into consideration..injuries and bye weeks, too, of course..

As I told Dok, teasers are the best options for NFL..Patriots/Cards was the only viable option this week, though IMO..

[SpursforSix]

:lol regression was expected, tbh..Patriots and Lions hurt the outcomes in the final minute, too..

Shouldn't blindly follow systems, though, as I said earlier..Chargers have a bid history vs. Oakland, 90% of the fans in their stadium are Raiders fans and week after the heartbreak vs. GB, for example, days systems don't take it into consideration..injuries and bye weeks, too, of course..

As I told Dok, teasers are the best options for NFL..Patriots/Cards was the only viable option this week, though IMO..

I liked several of those anyway. I'm thinking of making it all up on Panthers

[Will Hunting]

:lol regression was expected, tbh..Patriots and Lions hurt the outcomes in the final minute, too..

Shouldn't blindly follow systems, though, as I said earlier..Chargers have a bid history vs. Oakland, 90% of the fans in their stadium are Raiders fans and week after the heartbreak vs. GB, for example, days systems don't take it into consideration..injuries and bye weeks, too, of course..

As I told Dok, teasers are the best options for NFL..Patriots/Cards was the only viable option this week, though IMO..

Yeah all my teasers sucked this week but I went 2-0 on college so I should hopefully be around even.

This is looking like the week Vegas gets revenge for the first few weeks of the season.

[Will Hunting]

Classic Giants to outplay the other team the entire game but to never get separation.

[SpursforSix]

Yeah all my teasers sucked this week but I went 2-0 on college so I should hopefully be around even.

This is looking like the week Vegas gets revenge for the first few weeks of the season.

It makes me nervous about Carolina -3 which seems like a great bet.

[Will Hunting]

It makes me nervous about Carolina -3 which seems like a great bet.

Same. The reason I'm somewhat confident is that the -3 line seems like an overreaction to Philly's last two weeks when I view them as an inconsistent team that'll be up and down all year.

Carolina is also underrated at this point. They've been rolling since the end of last year and for all the talk about their offense they're scoring plenty of points this year.

[SpursforSix]

Same. The reason I'm somewhat confident is that the -3 line seems like an overreaction to Philly's last two weeks when I view them as an inconsistent team that'll be up and down all year.

That's how I see it as well. Hopefully plays out that way.

[pgardn]

This is something I use as another tool afte week 4, when we have some info.

http://www.nfl.com/standings

Look at NE, they are plus 73, now look at Indy at minus 14.

That is strong, dramatic! Something you can't ignore. Sure a plus 20 vs a mius 10...no big deal but a plus 73 vs a minus 14, this deserves a serious look.

Let me tell ya something, when I first started doing this I was like a lot of you, it was.....how can all that shit actually mean anything, talk about bullshit, there it is. Then I bought a book on beating the NFL point spread written by Wayne Allyn Root. He broke it all down and explained trends and tendancies, so I began using the techniques he used. What to look for, how to zero in on "spots". I'm telling ya there is a science to this, sure sure turnovers/injuries will fuck up any system, but yu aren't looking to win more than 60% of the time, anything else isn't realistic.

There is no way in hell anyone can win $$$$$ doing this without having some system, doing the work.

If I knew I wan't going to win there is no way I would do this here, knowing how all of you are dying to....YOU SUCK~~~~....while totally ignoring the wins, which is funny. But that's how it is on these boards. I do get a kick out of it.


Smart guys cool the...HAHA YOU SUCK....because it will always get easier, the first 8 weeks far harder to figure than the last 8 when we start seeing the playoff drive and those wanting the season to end.

Root
Sports handicapper[edit (http://www.spurstalk.com/w/index.php?title=Wayne_Allyn_Root&action=edit&section=3&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]

Root's TV handicapping career began in New York City on WNBC (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/WNBC) radio (now WFAN (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/WFAN)) in the early 1980s. He moved onto NBC (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/NBC) "Source Radio Network" syndicated (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Radio_syndication) around the country in over 100 markets (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Media_market) as a sports talk host (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Talk_show). He later became one of the youngest anchormen (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Anchorman) and national TV hosts in America from 1989 through the early 1990s on Financial News Network (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Financial_News_Network) (FNN), now known as CNBC (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/CNBC).

This guy knows his stuff, I;m a student.

Have you no shame?

You just suck.

[Avante]

Have you no shame?

You just suck.

Why do you CONSTANTLY try to talk about things you obviously know nothing about?

[Avante]

Used HH list to confirm several of these that I was wobbling on.
Bucs +3.5
Cowboys +3.5
Lions +3
Patriots -9
Chargers -4
Panthers -3
Colts -5
Seahawks -7

Adding Atlanta...-7

What a rookie, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SpursforSix]

What a rookie, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ya don't get it do ya slick. It's not about...this one week....it's about...last year I won $38,000...
and this season...yep...up 1500,00.25.
you pick your spots....got it? trends and knowing yours spots. they don't always win every time...never heard of someone who won EVERY BET????
sheeesh rookies

[Avante]

ya don't get it do ya slick. It's not about...this one week....it's about...last year I won $38,000...
and this season...yep...up 1500,00.25.
you pick your spots....got it? trends and knowing yours spots. they don't always win every time...never heard of someone who won EVERY BET????
sheeesh rookies


translation

Yep, I suck at this.

[SpursforSix]

Yep, I suck at this.

you suck at everything

[Avante]

you suck at everything

Up over $3000 right here since 2013 and can take all of you to school on the who,what, where and when pertaining to pro football. So you're wrong as usual.

Little man talk to me about Prentice Gautt, ok? Hahahaha, fucking rookie.

[SpursforSix]

Up over $3000 right here since 2013 and can take all of you to school on the who,what, where and when pertaining to pro football. So you're wrong as usual.

Little man talk to me about Prentice Gautt, ok? Hahahaha, fucking rookie.

talk to me about the karmic retribution you face for hurting those young children overseas

[Blake]

Up over $3000 right here since 2013

Sad delusional old fuck.

[HarlemHeat37]

Let's see if this system bounces back:

Patriots -8
Falcons -7.5
Vikings -1
Giants +3.5
49ers +9.5
Raiders +2.5
Seahawks -6

[Avante]

Sad delusional old fuck.

As this freak totally ignores my documented plus $2100 in that ...Avante Betting Thread...from 2014, and my picks right here this season. Poor little fuck simply can't deal with the fact I am what I said I was, yep....expert!

My picks will be right here, just pay attention.

[Avante]

talk to me about the karmic retribution you face for hurting those young children overseas

I'll go slow...

You walk in a bar in Hong Kong/Olongapo/Singapore/Bangkok/Tokyo, and here they come begging you to be with them. There ain't NOBODY, NOBODY the least bit concerned with..."well, how old are you"....hahaha!!!! What are you guy fucking retarded? They didn't give a shit, that's how they live over there. Been going on forever.

Dude, are you really this stupid?

Now think ya dumb fuck, who is going to be interested in some flat chested under developed "girl" over a full grown woman, well? Come on faggot stop acting like some retard over this, ok?

[Avante]

Let's see if this system bounces back:

Patriots -8
Falcons -7.5
Vikings -1
Giants +3.5
49ers +9.5
Raiders +2.5
Seahawks -6

There is no system that puts a blanket over games, you must look at the "individual" teams in whatever particular "spot" they are in that week, trust me!

Some teams shine coming off a bye, some suck. Some are great in these night games, others suck. There is no "one size fits all'.

[HarlemHeat37]

There is no system that puts a blanket over games, you must look at the "individual" teams in whatever particular "spot" they are in that week, trust me!

Some teams shine coming off a bye, some suck. Some are great in these night games, others suck. There is no "one size fits all'.

I'm aware of this, you and I have discussed betting many times over the years:lol..I said it earlier in the thread, too..

Successful statistical systems do help with leans and add another wrinkle to the thought process, which is the point..as I said earlier, they don't factor injuries, seasonal momentum, and random variables(like the Chargers being @ home, yet the Raiders having 80% of the fans in the stadium, for example)..

[Avante]

I'm aware of this, you and I have discussed betting many times over the years:lol..I said it earlier in the thread, too..

Successful statistical systems do help with leans and add another wrinkle to the thought process, which is the point..as I said earlier, they don't factor injuries, seasonal momentum, and random variables(like the Chargers being @ home, yet the Raiders having 80% of the fans in the stadium, for example)..

How much do you put into HF/RD etc?

This week Indy is a 6-12 RD(last 3 seasons) vs a Carolina team at 11-4 as a HF. That's a strong 23-10 trend favoring the Panthers. Do you look at that as one of your tools?

The Panthers being a plus 50 (points scored/given up) while the Colts are a minus 30. That's an 80 point difference.

[HarlemHeat37]

How much do you put into HF/RD etc?

This week Indy is a 6-12 RD(last 3 seasons) vs a Carolina team at 11-4 as a HF. That's a strong 23-10 trend favoring the Panthers. Do you look at that, as one of your tools?

I look at those trends when the teams involved have the same coaching staff and somewhat similar rosters over 2 years or more..in this case, both teams have been run by the same coaching staff/QBs/main players the past few seasons, so definitely meaningful..

It also helps that the Colts seem like they're on the verge of imploding with all the rumors of Pagano being fired soon..

[HarlemHeat37]

I also avoid betting vs. hot teams like the Dolphins tonight..I'd rather wait and see how they look tonight, it'll be their real test, since it's possible these past 2 games were a product of playing vs. bottom-feeders..

[Avante]

I look at those trends when the teams involved have the same coaching staff and somewhat similar rosters over 2 years or more..in this case, both teams have been run by the same coaching staff/QBs/main players the past few seasons, so definitely meaningful..

It also helps that the Colts seem like they're on the verge of imploding with all the rumors of Pagano being fired soon..

Yep, ya wanna look at that coach/QB combo, when it comes to putting a lot into trends. Once that changes ya start building new trends. Other than a few time tested like...home/road.....dome teams on grass........east coast teams flying west/west coast teams on the east coast.

I played one day game as a HSer, I hated it, and had a shit game, I liked being under those Friday night lights. Playing in a totally different time zone is a big deal.

Panthers are hot, at home "again" vs a Colts team like you said, a perfect "spot" to lay the number with Carolina, which I have.

[SpursforSix]

Packers -3.5
Falcons -7.5
Saints -3
Jets -3

[Pelicans78]

Packers -3.5
Falcons -7.5
Saints -3
Jets -3

If I wasn't a Saints fan, I would definitely take the Saints here, but I'm always doubtful when it comes to my teams.

[Avante]

Packers -3.5
Falcons -7.5
Saints -3
Jets -3

Any reasoning at all behind those plays?

Sell me on Saints - 3, come on man...why?

[SpursforSix]

If I wasn't a Saints fan, I would definitely take the Saints here, but I'm always doubtful when it comes to my teams.

Contrary to my solid lock thread, I like the Saints -3 better. Although I got beat up so bad last week I'm questioning all of them.

[Avante]

Contrary to my solid lock thread, I like the Saints -3 better. Although I got beat up so bad last week I'm questioning all of them.

Pay attention.

You are trying to do what so many others do, you really think you can win without doing any research/homework/trends/stats.......right? you will lose your ass, just like last week. You...MUST...understand the fundamentals, and realize there really is a science to this. But, you'll....yeah right...as you continue to lose while watching me win because I get how this is done.

Dude, the internet is full of info...USE IT!!!!!!!!....but you're too fucking lazy, right?

How do the Saints do in the role as a HF? How do the Giants do as a RD? How many points have the Saints scored/given up? How about the Giants? You start there.

[SpursforSix]

Pay attention.

You are trying to do what so many others do, you really think you can win without doing any research/homework/trends/stats.......right? you will lose your ass, just like last week. You...MUST...understand the fundamentals, and realize there really is a science to this. But, you'll....yeah right...as you continue to lose while watching me win because I get how this is done.

Dude, the internet is full of info...USE IT!!!!!!!!....but you're too fucking lazy, right?

How do the Saints do in the role as a HF? How do the Giants do as a RD? How many points have the Saints scored/given up? How about the Giants? You start there.

I use some advanced metrics I've developed since about lunch time.

[Avante]

I use some advanced metrics I've developed since about lunch time.

You try too hard to...see see me everyone, I'm funny, huh?.....why?

I bet real $$$$ on my plays, ok? I have to know all I can or I lose real $$$$. I have spent years working on how to win $$$$ at this. Why not drop your goofy bullshit and learn something? My teachers Wayne Allyln Root, Marc Lawrence, Jim Feist, the best in the biz at this.

I don't care how much ya know, the best ya can hope for...3 out of 5, 6 out of 10. And that's with all the angles/trends/stats.

GROW UP~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~

[SpursforSix]

You try too hard to...see see me everyone, I'm funny, huh?.....why?

I bet real $$$$ on my plays, ok? I have to know all I can or I lose real $$$$. I have spent years working on how to win $$$$ at this. Why not drop your goofy bullshit and learn something? My teachers Wayne Allyln Root, Marc Lawrence, Jim Feist, the best in the biz at this.

I don't care how much ya know, the best ya can hope for...3 out of 5, 6 out of 10. And that's with all the angles/trends/stats.

GROW UP~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~

hahahahah. you're such an asshole.

[Avante]

hahahahah. you're such an asshole.

Well actually I'm a guy who started betting on NFL games about 30 years ago, yep...lost my ass. So I set out to find out why I was losing my ass. So I did.

Why you have some need to act like some little retarded punk,...???

I'm the real deal little guy, why you fight it...???

[AlexJones]

Broncos +3, +130
49ers +300
Browns +5.5
Seahawks -5

[Avante]

Packers -3.5
Falcons -7.5
Saints -3
Jets -3

Dude, ya suck at this, ok?

[SpursforSix]

Dude, ya suck at this, ok?

hahaha...you thought that I....Falcons -7.5 when the trend says that they never cover more than 5 playing Tampa Bay when Tampa Bay come in with....and Jets -3?

my daughter wanted to see what this betting was all about and I told her about the fun I have on here messing with the rookies....I let her post her choices...I even laid $1 on each game for her...
wanted her to learn that this is tough business and it's not easy money....hopefully keep her away until she learns more about trends

Me...I'm 32-8 this season...yep....making some good $.

Sheesh...you thought I...Packers -3.5???? a sure thing? hahahhahahah