Week 6 thread sponsored by Seattle's judgment day

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

The Panthers beat the Jags/Texans/Bucs/Saints before having their most impressive win of the season today against a Seattle team suffering from a SB hangover. Beat the Packers and then we can talk.


:lol yet you pick a team that has a turnover machine at QB with a terrible defense in a weak division instead. Whatever man, ignore the fact that Carolina beat a team who is 28-2 at home with RW as a starter. Ignore that a team who doesn't have their best receiver beat a team full of all-Pro secondary members.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

marcus cannon injured... damn
we'll give you Tyron Smith for 5 weeks of Brady (until Romo returns). Deal?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

:lol yet you pick a team that has a turnover machine at QB with a terrible defense in a weak division instead. Whatever man, ignore the fact that Carolina beat a team who is 28-2 at home with RW as a starter. Ignore that a team who doesn't have their best receiver beat a team full of all-Pro secondary members.
with kelvin Benjamin you're basically the Seahawks of the last 2 years. Decent option QB, average oline, lousy receiving corps, great defense (especially in the secondary). Meh

[HemisfairArena]

:lol yet you pick a team that has a turnover machine at QB with a terrible defense in a weak division instead. Whatever man, ignore the fact that Carolina beat a team who is 28-2 at home with RW as a starter. Ignore that a team who doesn't have their best receiver beat a team full of all-Pro secondary members.

Scrub, your Panthers are undefeated and having a great season but lets be reasonable,,,you know and I know they have no chance of winning it all,,,

[Raven]

we'll give you Tyron Smith for 5 weeks of Brady (until Romo returns). Deal?


i don't care about the next 5 weeks, i only care about the team being healthy for the post season. We have the deepest and probably youngest offensive line, still it sucks when tackles get injured.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Scrub, your Panthers are undefeated and having a great season but lets be reasonable,,,you know and I know they have no chance of winning it all,,,
If The Ravens can win with a stout D and Trent Dilder at QB, we definitely can win it all.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

i don't care about the next 5 weeks, i only care about the team being healthy for the post season. We have the deepest and probably youngest offensive line, still it sucks when tackles get injured.
yeah Nate Solder has been with the team for like forever so that's a killer blow. Even with giant traffic cones for o-linemen Brady and the Pats would be just fine, tbh

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

with kelvin Benjamin you're basically the Seahawks of the last 2 years. Decent option QB, average oline, lousy receiving corps, great defense (especially in the secondary). Meh
Meh? That team went to the SB the past two years. KB > any Hawks receiver

[spurraider21]

If The Ravens can win with a stout D and Trent Dilder at QB, we definitely can win it all.
2000 Ravens D is probably one of the top 3 defenses of all time. top 5 at worst. panthers defense is strong, but not legendary like those guys

granted, newton > dilfer and olsen is probably close to as good as what shannon sharpe was at that age

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Meh? That team went to the SB the past two years. KB > any Hawks receiver
oops, I meant WITHOUT kelvin benjamin. My bad

[Raven]

well, that sucks.

[HemisfairArena]

If The Ravens can win with a stout D and Trent Dilder at QB, we definitely can win it all.

Different D's and head coaches,,,I would take Billick over Rivera and it wouldn't be close,,,

[HemisfairArena]

Here's how good that 1999 Raven Super Bowl winning defense was,,,they had Rex Ryan as D-Line coach,,,Jack Del Rio as linebacker coach and Marvin Lewis as Defensive coordinator,,,all head coaches in the NFL right now,,,,

[unleashbaynes]

Are you kidding me? Indy clearly recovered.

[Raven]

blount deflating the colts hopes :lol

[spurraider21]

blount deflating the colts hopes :lol
ugh

[HI-FI]

Funny how pats Oline is a patchwork and he still gets a shit load of time. that system is incredible.

[SuperCam]

Pats secondary has been a paper tiger all year. Dalton could finally make things interesting

[Will Hunting]

Funny how pats Oline is a patchwork and he still gets a shit load of time. that system is incredible.

Why didn't this "system" ever work in Cleveland?

[Will Hunting]

2000 Ravens D is probably one of the top 3 defenses of all time. top 5 at worst. panthers defense is strong, but not legendary like those guys

granted, newton > dilfer and olsen is probably close to as good as what shannon sharpe was at that age

The big reason why that comparison doesn't fly is all the rule changes between 2000 and now. The days of being able to Dilfer your way to a SB are over.

[Clipper Nation]

The big reason why that comparison doesn't fly is all the rule changes between 2000 and now. The days of being able to Dilfer your way to a SB are over.
I seem to recall a certain faggot Dilfering their way to a SB two years ago, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

Pats secondary has been a paper tiger all year. Dalton could finally make things interesting
:lmao Dalton

He'll shit his pants like always.

[Will Hunting]

As for this game, the Pats' secondary is going to prevent another SB unless a mid-season trade happens. McCourty has gone back to being the overrated, mediocre safety he was before he had Revis to make him look good, while all the corners sans Malcolm Butler fucking suck. Kinda sucks since this is the best offense they've had since '07 and their pass rush is no longer the liability it has been for close to a decade.

At least BB/Kraft can pat themselves on the back for playing hardball with Revis!

[Will Hunting]

I seem to recall a certain faggot Dilfering their way to a SB two years ago, tbh.

He made more plays than Dilfer had to :lol

[Raven]

Funny how pats Oline is a patchwork and he still gets a shit load of time. that system is incredible.

they are not blitzing though.. they prefer to double gronk all the time.

[lefty]

they are not blitzing though.. they prefer to double gronk all the time.

aaaaaaaaaaand

Gronk TD

[Raven]

well, i called it :lol

[Will Hunting]

they are not blitzing though.. they prefer to double gronk all the time.

:cry Brady gets all the time in the world when the other team only rushes 3 guys :cry

[Raven]

As for this game, the Pats' secondary is going to prevent another SB unless a mid-season trade happens. McCourty has gone back to being the overrated, mediocre safety he was before he had Revis to make him look good, while all the corners sans Malcolm Butler fucking suck. Kinda sucks since this is the best offense they've had since '07 and their pass rush is no longer the liability it has been for close to a decade.

At least BB/Kraft can pat themselves on the back for playing hardball with Revis!

he was the #1 ranked safety the year before revis came.

[lefty]

Passing the ball to Gronk = feeding Prime Shaq in the post :lol

[Will Hunting]

he was the #1 ranked safety the year before revis came.

#1 ranked by who? Be specific.

[Raven]

#1 ranked by who? Be specific.

i believe it was pff, not sure though. don't know if it was at the end of the year, but i'm sure he was at least top 3..

[Will Hunting]

i believe it was pff, not sure though. don't know if it was at the end of the year, but i'm sure he was at least top 3..

Oh ok so he might not have been "the #1 ranked safety" and you're not sure.

[Raven]

Devin McCourty (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5824/devin-mccourty) - DB - Patriots (http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/clubhouse/nfl/ne/patriots)


NFL.com's Albert Breer reports Patriots FS Devin McCourty (concussion) has been ruled out for Week 17.


Third-round rookie Duron Harmon will start in McCourty's place. McCourty is in the midst of a fine season, grading out as Pro Football Focus' No. 1 safety heading into Week 17. Whether it's a Wild Card or Divisional Round game, McCourty should be ready for the Patriots' first playoff game.

Source: Albert Breer on Twitter (https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/417311362306416640)
Sun, Dec 29, 2013 10:11:00 AM

[HemisfairArena]

Passing the ball to Gronk = feeding Prime Shaq in the post :lol

That is a great analogy,,,tbh

[Raven]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao

[benefactor]

What the fuck was Indy doing?:lol

[Will Hunting]

:lmao:lmao Cuck Pagano

[Raven]

that had to be the dumbest play of the year :lmao:lmao:lmao

[lefty]

Well that was funny

[lefty]

We stacked tbh

[Raven]

blount AGAIN :lmao:lmao:lmao

[lefty]

We da defending champs


Inflated ego FTW

[Raven]

blount : deflating indy's hearts since 2013

[Will Hunting]

that had to be the dumbest play of the year :lmao:lmao:lmao

I would only expect the stupidity on that play and the final play of Michigan vs. Michigan State to be once every 3-5 years, let alone on the same weekend.

[spurraider21]

:lol pff

[Clipper Nation]

As for this game, the Pats' secondary is going to prevent another SB unless a mid-season trade happens. McCourty has gone back to being the overrated, mediocre safety he was before he had Revis to make him look good, while all the corners sans Malcolm Butler fucking suck. Kinda sucks since this is the best offense they've had since '07 and their pass rush is no longer the liability it has been for close to a decade.

At least BB/Kraft can pat themselves on the back for playing hardball with Revis!
Elite Manning cucking Brady for the third time will be fun to watch, tbh. :toast

[spurraider21]

yeah, if u cant pick off Luck even once, thats the sign of a pretty shaky secondary :lol

[Clipper Nation]

yeah, if u cant pick off Luck even once, thats the sign of a pretty shaky secondary :lol
:lol Philo avoiding talking about Struggle Wilson like Enrique Porker avoids dieting.

[Silver&Black]

What the fuck was Indy doing?:lol

Can anybody please explain that play to me....

Were they trying to lure them offsides? Fake punt?

[jeebus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPwZ9H7x_NU

[jeebus]

I've watched it about a dozen times and I still don't know wtf they were trying to do.

[Raven]

Can anybody please explain that play to me....

Were they trying to lure them offsides? Fake punt?

has there been any deflated brain jokes, so far?

[spurraider21]

:lol Philo avoiding talking about Struggle Wilson like Enrique Porker avoids dieting.
not avoiding it. i pointed out how horrible their offense has been in the 2nd half last couple of weeks. cost them both games. not much else to say

[Clipper Nation]

not avoiding it. i pointed out how horrible their offense has been in the 2nd half last couple of weeks. cost them both games. not much else to say
:lol Lumping "their offense" together to deflect blame from the overpaid game manager

[djohn2oo8]

When are the colts going to.build an actual defense and put a oline around Luck?

[spurraider21]

:lol Lumping "their offense" together to deflect blame from the overpaid game manager
i'm not deflecting, the QB is the most important player of the offense. if i say "the offense" you can assume i'm assigning a large portion of the blame on the QB.

i do think they need to consider shaking up the RB spot. lynch has underwhelmed and rawls seemed like a good replacement option. wilson hasn't played poorly enough to warrant being benched, and its not like they have some rock star backup ready to spark the team anyway

[Clipper Nation]

i'm not deflecting, the QB is the most important player of the offense. if i say "the offense" you can assume i'm assigning a large portion of the blame on the QB.

i do think they need to consider shaking up the RB spot. lynch has underwhelmed and rawls seemed like a good replacement option. wilson hasn't played poorly enough to warrant being benched, and its not like they have some rock star backup ready to spark the team anyway
They need to shake up the QB spot, too. Struggle isn't getting it done. They need a real QB who can play in the pocket.

[spurraider21]

They need to shake up the QB spot, too. Struggle isn't getting it done. They need a real QB who can play in the pocket.
he needs to play better in the 2nd half of games. their backup qb is tarvaris jackson, so you can troll/over-exaggerate all you want, but Wilson will continue to be the QB of the seahawks for the foreseeable future.

i do like that he and jimmy graham really appeared to be on the same page for the first time all season. that connection should be enough to get their offense over the hump

[HemisfairArena]

They need to shake up the QB spot, too. Struggle isn't getting it done. They need a real QB who can play in the pocket.

Let me know when Philip Rivers has done anything,,,,

[Boston Pancake]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRpoyshUYAAUMJ-.jpg:large

[Raven]

i'm not deflecting, the QB is the most important player of the offense. if i say "the offense" you can assume i'm assigning a large portion of the blame on the QB.

i do think they need to consider shaking up the RB spot. lynch has underwhelmed and rawls seemed like a good replacement option. wilson hasn't played poorly enough to warrant being benched, and its not like they have some rock star backup ready to spark the team anyway


blaming lynch of all people :lol

[Silver&Black]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRpoyshUYAAUMJ-.jpg:large

:rollin :lmao :lol :rollin :lmao :lol :rollin

[Silver&Black]

BTW...I still haven't figured out WTF the Colts were doing on that 4th and 3 play.

[SuperCam]

BTW...I still haven't figured out WTF the Colts were doing on that 4th and 3 play.

Swinging gate...meant to draw encroachment. Snap was never supposed to happen

[spurraider21]

blaming lynch of all people :lol
there's more than one person to blame, tbh. i already stated i'm assigning a large portion of the blame on the QB. wilson has underperformed, especially in the 2nd half of the last 2 games

but yes, lynch has underperformed as well

[spurraider21]

:lol

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[Boston Pancake]

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[Will Hunting]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRpoyshUYAAUMJ-.jpg:large

:lmao

Whottt do you think of the idea of driving down to Houston for the game this year? I was out of town for the Dallas game, otherwise I would have hit you up.

[Chris]

Tonight's a good night for a grueling overtime tie :lol

[benefactor]

Manning...:lmao

[benefactor]

Bradford...:lmao

[SuperCam]

Are there even more than 6 or 7 good QBs left in the NFL? crofl

[Silver&Black]

Fletcher Cox....

My nigga.

[Holden_Caulfield]

I can't believe Bradford is my starting qb in fantasy :lol

[Chris]

Giants blew their load on the first drive

[HarlemHeat37]

Bradford is so mediocre, tbh..

[SuperCam]

What a shitshow. Way to run off Foles you fucking racist egomaniac :lol

[UNT Eagles 2016]

and just like that, Cowboys are back tied at the top of the NFC east with 2 less division losses. Murray finally being Murray...

[spurraider21]

What a shitshow. Way to run off Foles you fucking racist egomaniac :lol
how is he racist?

for replacing mccoy, a black running back, with murray and mathews, 2 black running backs?

for replacing desean and maclin, 2 black receivers (who get paid a pretty penny) with jordan matthews and nelson agholor, 2 black receivers?

or for replacing brandon boykin, a black corner, with byron maxwell, a black corner?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

how is he racist?

for replacing mccoy, a black running back, with murray and mathews, 2 black running backs?

for replacing desean and maclin, 2 black receivers (who get paid a pretty penny) with jordan matthews and nelson agholor, 2 black receivers?

or for replacing brandon boykin, a black corner, with byron maxwell, a black corner?

Lesean and Desean were more of the stereotypical "black ebonic unemancipated" type rather than the intellectual/emancipated type, like a Ray Lewis or Wilson or RG3 or something.

[LakerHater]

and just like that, Cowboys are back tied at the top of the NFC east with 2 less division losses. Murray finally being Murray...
What!?!
Cowgirls are 3rd

[spurraider21]

tied in the loss column

[UNT Eagles 2016]

tied in the loss column
yeah. lol win column... though in fairness, they still have to win games with Cassel at the helm for the next 4 (at least 2–2 and at least one of the division wins) to win the division.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Lesean and Desean were more of the stereotypical "black ebonic unemancipated" type rather than the intellectual/emancipated type, like a Ray Lewis or Wilson or RG3 or something.
They were team cancers

[UNT Eagles 2016]

They were team cancers
they were also good friends with each other, which partially explains the fall-off from the crazy good year (second half of 2013 season where they both went nuts on defenses, remember the blizzard game) to last year's relative mediocrity. Those (along with Foles and Maclin) were Andy Reid's guys, though. Kelly has what he wanted all along now, though he would probably prefer a QB with more legs. It's whatever

[Boston Pancake]

:lmao

Whottt do you think of the idea of driving down to Houston for the game this year? I was out of town for the Dallas game, otherwise I would have hit you up.

Man that would be wicked awesome but I really blew my wad on badass tickets to the game in Dallas, dont know if the old lady will approve a trip to Houston too.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I miss Mono, tbh..

[spurraider21]

I'm glad to see Tim Wright succeed in Detroit, the guy is soooo much better than he is given credit for. Easily a top 10 TE in the league.
:lol ur beloved PFF ranks him as the worst TE in the NFL this year through six weeks

[Raven]

:lol ur beloved PFF ranks him as the worst TE in the NFL this year through six weeks

that kinda happens when you have been an end of the bench player up until now.

[spurraider21]

that kinda happens when you have been an end of the bench player up until now.
negative grades dont mean you dont play. they mean you make bad plays. if he's on the end of the bench and doesnt get snaps, his rating would be 0. instead they have him at a big negative :lol

[Raven]

negative grades dont mean you dont play. they mean you make bad plays. if he's on the end of the bench and doesnt get snaps, his rating would be 0. instead they have him at a big negative :lol
you can get snaps and still not be considered . i'm not disputing his suckiness so far, i'm saying he is finding his niche and it takes time for a qb to consider him as a legit option instead of a last option choice. And plus his grade is always going to be terrible, considering he can't block.

[spurraider21]

inb4 tim wright revolutionized the position because he sucks at blocking

[Raven]

inb4 tim wright revolutionized the position because he sucks at blocking

well, he did win a superbowl, which i believe is more than your team has in all those years that you've been born.

[spurraider21]

well, he did win a superbowl, which i believe is more than your team has in all those years that you've been born.
irrelevant deflection is irrelevant

[JMarkJohns]

I'm not going to complain about Palmer. Cardinals have had so many shitty QBs in this history it's great to have a QB you expect will lead you to wins, and who fulfills them 7/10 times or better.

But I do wonder why he can't consistently be great.

He missed so many gimme throws today, and forced too many things when the offense seemed to be running smoothly, that I do wonder if very good and occasionally great but with several duds is going to be the ceiling?

The penalties across the entire team hurt just as much, but Palmer is the QB and needs to step up against bad teams with 2nd and 3rd string QBs when the defense has dominated for an entire half. Game should have been a 20+ lead at half.

Mental Midgetry. Whole lot of the team and staff.

This team doesn't have "it"...

[JMarkJohns]

The touchdown changes nothing.

Cardinals were up 19-0. They had opportunities to be up 27 and could capitalize. They floundered as an entire team. Even if they win tonight they have been exposed. Great teams don't let all the little shit snowball into epic fail.

[illmatic]

The touchdown changes nothing.

Cardinals were up 19-0. They had opportunities to be up 27 and could capitalize. They floundered as an entire team. Even if they win tonight they have been exposed. Great teams don't let all the little shit snowball into epic fail.

went into division rivals stadium and beat them. how does that crow taste "cardinals" fan?

[JMarkJohns]

went into division rivals stadium and beat them. how does that crow taste "cardinals" fan?

It is possible for this team to be both talented enough that out scored Seattle 19-0 to begin the game and 14-3 to end the game be inconsistent and mentally-stunted enough to be out scored 29-9 in the middle, including two consecutive strip-fumbles in the fourth quarter.

This wasn't ever about my fandom waning. It was about how my objectivity as a fan sees a talented but flawed team whose issues are still concerning a whole month after I was first concerned with them. Things haven't gotten better. Still sloppy, careless, and unable to maximize its game-changing opportunities.

The win is nice for the record, but you are not your record. Any given game these issues will bite them in the ass, and, this holds especially true vs better teams like those played in the Playoffs.

My main point:

It sure would be nice for this team to not give away points so often and stop playing only half the game due to mental lulls.

[pgardn]

It is possible for this team to be both talented enough that out scored Seattle 19-0 to begin the game and 14-3 to end the game be inconsistent and mentally-stunted enough to be out scored 29-9 in the middle, including two consecutive strip-fumbles in the fourth quarter.

This wasn't ever about my fandom waning. It was about how my objectivity as a fan sees a talented but flawed team whose issues are still concerning a whole month after I was first concerned with them. Things haven't gotten better. Still sloppy, careless, and unable to maximize its game-changing opportunities.

The win is nice for the record, but you are not your record. Any given game these issues will bite them in the ass, and, this holds especially true vs better teams like those played in the Playoffs.

My main point:

It sure would be nice for this team to not give away points so often and stop playing only half the game due to mental lulls.

This could describe any of the NFC playoff teams at this point.
The Cardinals look as good as any of them.

[Avante]

There is a chance Marshawn Lyncyh might be done for the season, will find out soon.

Now keep an eye on Thomas Rawls, the kid has some serious jets, No no no no not the power back Lynch is (ya think) but he has better speed and agility and he does run hard,

[JMarkJohns]

I hate being right. But everything I said in this thread is absolute truth and why the Cardinals almost lost last week and did lose this week.

I'm thankful to have a competitive NFL franchise. Cardinals were the Browns a mere 10-12 years ago, and the Clippers of the NFL farther back than that.

So, going to playoffs back to back years, and netting 10 or more wins for the last three, and setting franchise marks on offense is a huge step forward.

I'd not change the front office or coaching for just about anything.

But it's clear they need to focus on needs, not just talent.

They need OL and LB help. Badly. Their pass blocking was poor and pass rush worse.

Now, maybe Cooper/Humphries put it together and this helps, but they need at least one more impact veteran.

And they need at least one downhill edge rusher.

But, even more than talent, they need to take a look in the mirror and figure out why they can't seem to take advantage of game-changing plays.

Be it the Peterson muffed punt right when they were getting into the game, or Palmer's red zone special right when they could swing momentum before half.

Coaching, scheme, player execution, all need to be examined.

What a shitty way for the year to end.

I'm glad Arians said what he said.

It isn't a good year unless the confetti is falling for you.