Seahawks: one second-half drive that lasted longer than two minutes

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Tell me more about how Struggle is a franchise QB, spurraider21 Avante

[jeebus]

Struggle Wilson

[Struggle Wilson]

Struggle Wilson (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49641)

Our owner, GM, coaches, offensive line, wide receivers, running backs, tight ends, and defense all suck big-time!

[spurraider21]

their second halves have been disgusting tbh

[Clipper Nation]

their second halves have been disgusting tbh
The second half is where the franchise QBs step up and game managers wilt, tbh.

[Raven]

their second halves have been disgusting tbh

clutch wilson tbh

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Carolina has a good defense.. Give them credit

[Clipper Nation]

Carolina has a good defense.. Give them credit

I agree, they've really carried the Panthers' albatross of a QB. Imagine how scary Carolina would be with Based Anderson under center.

[SuperCam]

Carolina has a good defense.. Give them credit

Meh, 2nd half was a good showing but we gave away points to a underperforming offense. Seattle never should have scored on that Lockette drive, whether giving up the third and long in their territory or not getting the easy INT on that long TD pass. Then there was the drive on which Marshawn got the TD, didn't we let Graham assfuck us on that too? I may be mistaken.

I actually think we're better than the scored showed. If the goddamn missed PI -- fingers in Ginn's helmet for fucks sake -- along with the damn near INTs we should have picked up when Seattle was deep in their own territory... I think a lot of the 50/50 bounces went Seattle's way.


Seattle has 3 of 4 losses to undefeated teams... I still think they finish 8-8 or maybe 9-7, something close to that, probably not enough to win the division.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Frizzle now flip-flopping on cue, throwing the defense under the bus to prop up Cum
:lol Predictable

[HarlemHeat37]

Not surprising that their team fell off with Lynch's decline, tbh..

The Wilson agenda took away a 2nd SB, probably their last shot for a few years..

[Avante]

:lmao Tell me more about how Struggle is a franchise QB, spurraider21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483)

You will never ever figure it out will ya slick? Do I really have to show you all the great QB's first 4 years compared to RW's? Do you have any clue at all? Stupid, find any QB you want and lets look at RW's 4 career vs theirs ok? Come on little man, let's do that ok?

By the way how is Joe Flacco doing, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HarlemHeat37]

Avante, do you think Russ costing his team last year's SB is fucking with his head?

[Avante]

Avante, do you think Russ costing his team last year's SB is fucking with his head?


Nope, because it's not about him, it's about that offensive line and Quinn leaving. Now add no Kam for a couple games and today no Bobby Wagner.

That offensive like is sad.

I'm not one to over react early in any season, ya gotta give things some time. Well after six weeks it is time to start paying close attention. The Seahawks must beat my Niners and the Cowboys on the road in the next two weeks. That wil get them to their bye week, if they don't win both those games, they can pretty much forget the playoffs.

[Clipper Nation]

Damn, if only they didn't blow $87.6 million on a CFL backup QB. They'd probably be able to afford an O-line if not for that game manager and his contract.

[spurraider21]

Damn, if only they didn't blow $87.6 million on a CFL backup QB. They'd probably be able to afford an O-line if not for that game manager and his contract.
i agree that his contract is steep, but the problem is, that's the going rate for quarterbacks. there is a huge bubble when it comes to QB contracts... guys like Kraep, Dalton, Tannehill, Cutler, Flacco, Wilson, Eli, Stafford, Cam all got monster deals, and just about every one of those guys are overpaid (though Dalton suddenly looks like a good deal).

The only high paid QB's that are earning their checks are Rodgers, Ben, Rivers, Brady, and Romo

Right now, the landscape of the NFL dictates that FA qb's get paid ridiculous amounts. last time i remember a situation like this was before they instituted the rookie scale and guys like Sam Bradford got 6/80 right off the bat

So while I do think Wilson gets too much, when you compare his deal to the deals of other QB's around the league, it's nothing egregious

[Avante]

As of right now RW's comp % and passer rating FAR superior to Joe Flacco, hahaha!!!!!!!!

Only an idiot like CN wouldn't get how it works.

If RW never wins another game he has already done more than....

Philip Rivers
Andy Dalton
Matt Ryan
Dan Marino
Dan Fouts
Ken Anderson
Boomer Esaison
Sonny Jurgenson
Fran Tarkenton
Jim Kelly
John Unitas
Joe Namath
Warren Moon
Drew Brees
Andrew Luck

...ever did.

[spurraider21]

he's not in the same league as marino/fouts/unitas/kelly/brees/moon

[spurraider21]

he's not in the same league as marino/fouts/unitas/kelly/brees/moon... or just about any of those guys

more accomplished than Dalton, who by the way is playing at a ridiculously high level so far this season

[Aztecfan03]

As of right now RW's comp % and passer rating FAR superior to Joe Flacco, hahaha!!!!!!!!

Only an idiot like CN wouldn't get how it works.

If RW never wins another game he has already done more than....

Philip Rivers
Andy Dalton
Matt Ryan
Dan Marino
Dan Fouts
Fran Tarkenton
Jim Kelly
John Unitas
Joe Namath
Warren Moon
Drew Brees
Andrew Luck

...ever did.
Drew Brees? You have alzheimer's, old fuck?

[Avante]

he's not in the same league as marino/fouts/unitas/kelly/brees/moon

Why not spend a little time and Google those guys careers, check out what they did in their first three seasons compared to what RW has done. Check out that passer rating and that TD/INT ratio and, the wins.

Keep in mind RW started the first game of his rookie season and has never missed missed.

I saw all those you mentioned play many times, none were more impressive than Russell Wilson.

[spurraider21]

you didnt say "first 3 years" you said "ever did"

[Avante]

you didnt say "first 3 years" you said "ever did"

Now think just a little bit, ok?

He had a better start to his career than any of them and more SB success. So to say those guys were better when no they weren't at the same stage of a career, makes no sense.

[Clipper Nation]

Drew Brees? You have alzheimer's, old fuck?
The Old Faggot thinks Struggle's Dilferesque run of being dragged kicking and screaming to a ring by Lynch and the defense is such a high bar that nobody could ever clear it. Never mind the fact that Flacco's run the year before takes a wet shit all over Struggle's entire career.

[Avante]

Drew Brees? You have alzheimer's, old fuck?

What are you retarded bitch? RW has played in two SB;s, Brees only one and RW after three seasons is far superior to Brees after three seasons.

[Avante]

The Old Faggot thinks Struggle's Dilferesque run of being dragged kicking and screaming to a ring by Lynch and the defense is such a high bar that nobody could ever clear it. Never mind the fact that Flacco's run the year before takes a wet shit all over Struggle's entire career.

Then there's always the fact that nobody in the history of the league has had a better first three seasons than RW. Check out the stats ya dumb fuck. Look at Flacco after three seasons, what a joke, kinda like he is this season.

Why not look at this seasons stats idiot, tell me what you see?

[Clipper Nation]

Then there's alway the fact that nobody in the history of the league has had a better firt three seasons than RW. Check out the stats ya dumb fuck. Look at Flacoo after three seasons, what a joke, kinda like he is this season.
Flacco is a "joke" with a better overall career than Struggle.

[Avante]

Flacco is a "joke" with a better overall career than Struggle.

Stupid, now think.

Joe Montana after three seasons

TD/INT...35/21
He never had a passer rating over 88

RW....72/26 and never had a passer rating under 95.

I know...huh?

Stupid, you have to compare at the same stage of their caeers, ok ya fucking idiot? Joe Flacco nowhere remotely close to RW after his first three seasons, not even ball park.

[Mal]

:lmao Defense declined. Lynch declined or become mortal, Wilson did not improve his game, but took big money(cant blame him) so Seattle is fucked.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

He's not better than Cam Newton. That's not an insult.. He was a 4th rounder and has a great skill set. But as you can see, he isn't worth that contract. Can is worth that contract for Carolina because he does everything.

[Pelicans78]

Stupid, now think.

Joe Montana after three seasons

TD/INT...35/21
He never had a passer rating over 88

RW....72/26 and never had a passer rating under 95.

I know...huh?

Stupid, you have to compare at the same stage of their caeers, ok ya fucking idiot? Joe Flacco nowhere remotely close to RW after his first three seasons, not even ball park.

Wilson plays it safe. Doesn't make a lot of high risk throws and at the slightest trouble in the pocket will tuck it and run. He only makes safe throws which lead to his high efficiency. Overall though, he's really abysmal in the pocket. Its obvious he can't carry a team long-term.

[Pelicans78]

He's not better than Cam Newton. That's not an insult.. He was a 4th rounder and has a great skill set. But as you can see, he isn't worth that contract. Can is worth that contract for Carolina because he does everything.

Cam made some throws that Wilson could never make. Plus, Cam's defense isn't really playing all that well this season. Credit to Cam for how the Panthers are winnng.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Cam made some throws that Wilson could never make. Plus, Cam's defense isn't really playing all that well this season. Credit to Cam for how the Panthers are winnng.
Cam threw at the Kam/Sherman/Earl combo 28 times combined today. Wilson didn't throw once at Norman.

i think our D kept us in the game

[313]

Surprised Struggle doesn't get any cuck jokes made about him on here. He's raising Future's kid and said he isn't even having sex with Ciara because "God told him not to"

Cuckold behavior

[spurraider21]

:cry but but.... wilson had the best rating in the game according to PFF :cry

[Will Hunting]

:cry but but.... wilson had the best rating in the game according to PFF :cry

:lol

Imagine if he and Devin McCourty were on the same team :wow

[UNT Eagles 2016]

he's not in the same league as marino/fouts/unitas/kelly/brees/moon
Is it just me or is Brees far and away the most overrated QB in the history of SpursTalk?

[spurraider21]

Is it just me or is Brees far and away the most overrated QB in the history of SpursTalk?
just you

[SpursforSix]

Is it just me or is Brees far and away the most overrated QB in the history of SpursTalk?

Top 10 in just about every meaningful passing category. Top 5 in most of them. Plus a ring.
It's just you.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Top 10 in just about every meaningful passing category. Top 5 in most of them. Plus a ring.
It's just you.

I don't think Brees' is overrated, but stop with that shit. He used to throw the ball 35-40 times a game… his passing offense gave him those stats.

With that being said, he's legit and was elite, and it's not his fault that their team isn't great anymore.

I know this will be controversial, but SD made the right decision by sticking with Rivers over Brees.

[Raven]

Cam made some throws that Wilson could never make. Plus, Cam's defense isn't really playing all that well this season. Credit to Cam for how the Panthers are winnng.


cum was awful yesterday tbh.. he did what he had to do in the clutch, so props to him, but let's not start to make stuff up, he was under 200yd with 0-2 td-int until the last possession.

[SuperCam]

cum was awful yesterday tbh.. he did what he had to do in the clutch, so props to him, but let's not start to make stuff up, he was under 200yd with 0-2 td-int until the last possession.

Lol boxscore reading only, come on. If he leads a drive to the one that results in stewart punching it that doesn't go into the TD column despite Cam leading 95% of that drive. One int was his fault granted, the other was a hit on his elbow as he was throwing it because Remmers our RT fucked up big.

PFF noticed:


– It was a rough afternoon for RT Mike Remmers (-5.2), as he was beaten handily by Seattle DE Cliff Avril. Giving up six hurries (four to Avril, one was erased by penalty), Remmers proved mostly susceptible to the bull rush. The most damaging example being at 4:20 of the first quarter, where Avril drove through him to get a piece of Newton’s arm, sending a fluttering ball into the waiting arms of Kam Chancellor.

4 80+ yard drives against the LOB in Seattle, tbh :tu

[Raven]

Lol boxscore reading only, come on. If he leads a drive to the one that results in stewart punching it that doesn't go into the TD column despite Cam leading 95% of that drive. One int was his fault granted, the other was a hit on his elbow as he was throwing it because Remmers our RT fucked up big.

PFF noticed:



4 80+ yard drives against the LOB in Seattle, tbh :tu

I've seen the game, thank you, he was very bad.

[SpursforSix]

I don't think Brees' is overrated, but stop with that shit. He used to throw the ball 35-40 times a game… his passing offense gave him those stats.

With that being said, he's legit and was elite, and it's not his fault that their team isn't great anymore.

I know this will be controversial, but SD made the right decision by sticking with Rivers over Brees.

Anyone in a top 10 list is going to be there because of opportunities. You don't look at Payton, Smith, and Sanders and dismiss the amount of yards by saying, "well yeah...it's because they got a lot of carries".
That offense was viable in part because of Brees. You can't just put an average QB in there and get those numbers. QB's in that group are going to be elite for the most part. So it's a decent metric to use.

[SuperCam]

I've seen the game, thank you, he was very bad.


– QB Cam Newton (+4.9) posted his fourth game over +1.0 and a nice rebound out of the bye week after his lowest-graded game of the season in Week 4. Connecting eight times on throws aimed more than 10 yards downfield before taking advantage of the Seattle coverage bust on the game-winner, Newton was on target with the majority of his patented fastballs.


bandwaggon faggot, patriots and spurs? crofl

[Raven]

bandwaggon faggot, patriots and spurs? crofl


yeah using stats for the whole game is clearly related to what i've been saying.

[spurraider21]

PFF said Wilson was the best player in the Panthers/Seahawks game :lol

stop citing pff scores as gospel

[Raven]

PFF said Wilson was the best player in the Panthers/Seahawks game :lol

stop citing pff scores as gospel
citation? anyway, I believe it is good when it comes to defense, much less when it comes to offense.

[spurraider21]

citation? anyway, I believe it is good when it comes to defense, much less when it comes to offense.
i used to like PFF when they had their unique stats, like Yards Per Route Run for receivers, and other cool figures like that... but their general "player ratings" that people gravitate to, while good click bait (i still check them from time to time :lol) are incredibly subjective, flawed, and often times flat out wrong

also, my bad, wilson was 3rd behind Ryan Kalil and Kawann Short :lol

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/10/19/car-sea-grades-impressive-newton-throws-game-winner-to-drop-seahawks/

[Pelicans78]

cum was awful yesterday tbh.. he did what he had to do in the clutch, so props to him, but let's not start to make stuff up, he was under 200yd with 0-2 td-int until the last possession.

His stats weren't great but he had led two 80 yard drives before the last drive. Plus he was in a hostile environment and won the game when needed.

[Clipper Nation]

Surprised Struggle doesn't get any cuck jokes made about him on here. He's raising Future's kid and said he isn't even having sex with Ciara because "God told him not to"

Cuckold behavior

:lol Cuckell Wilson

[Hoops Czar]

As of right now RW's comp % and passer rating FAR superior to Joe Flacco, hahaha!!!!!!!!

Only an idiot like CN wouldn't get how it works.

If RW never wins another game he has already done more than....

Philip Rivers
Andy Dalton
Matt Ryan
Dan Marino
Dan Fouts
Ken Anderson
Boomer Esaison
Sonny Jurgenson
Fran Tarkenton
Jim Kelly
John Unitas
Joe Namath
Warren Moon
Drew Brees
Andrew Luck

...ever did.

Jim Kelly played in 4 straight SB's and if Norwood could kick straight, he'd have a SB ring.

[Avante]

How's Russell Wilson doing without BEAST MODE, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!