Joe Biden in?

[DMX7]

Vice President Joe Biden will enter the presidential race, according to media reports filed on Monday.

“Three sources close to @VP telling me he’s expected to announce he is running but the sources are all urging caution on 48-hr timeline,” chief White House correspondent Ed Henry tweeted.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/joe-biden-enter-presidential-race-fox-news-reports-185031529.html

[TheSanityAnnex]

If Biden does enter expect Obama's DOJ to tell Hillary she drops out of the race due to "health" problems or be prosecuted for her email scandal.

[Cry Havoc]

Good news for Bernie supporters, Biden pulls some of the old guard vote away from Clinton.

[hater]

Good news. Anything but the neocon woman.

[baseline bum]

I can't say I'm a Biden fan, but he's exponentially better than that fucking dyke.

[boutons_deux]

stretching it out melodramatically is bullshit.

[boutons_deux]

I can't say I'm a Biden fan, but he's exponentially better than that fucking dyke.

in policies, two peas in a pod, no diff whatsoever. Both old line establishment pols with no intention of touching the rigged status quo.

[spurraider21]

i wonder if incessant laughter will be a vialbe strategy in the presidential debate

[pgardn]

i wonder if incessant laughter will be a vialbe strategy in the presidential debate

Its worked for Trump.

[spurraider21]

Its worked for Trump.
referring to the 1 on 1 presidential debate, not the primary "debates"

[pgardn]

referring to the 1 on 1 presidential debate, not the primary "debates"

I think you are safe putting them all in quotes.

Anyways, I hope there is more than one.

[Th'Pusher]

i wonder if incessant laughter will be a vialbe strategy in the presidential debate

You were really affected by the fact that he dismantled Ryan in the VP debates in '12, huh?

[spurraider21]

You were really affected by the fact that he dismantled Ryan in the VP debates in '12, huh?
i just found it to be a very odd tactic

[Th'Pusher]

i just found it to be a very odd tactic

It wasn't a tactic. He was literally laughing at the ridiculous misinformation coming out of Paul Ryan's mouth.

[spurraider21]

It wasn't a tactic. He was literally laughing at the ridiculous misinformation coming out of Paul Ryan's mouth.
meh, go ahead and rewatch some of the segments. he would laugh as soon as ryan opened his mouth, let alone before he said anything that would be considered misinformation.

[Th'Pusher]

meh, go ahead and rewatch some of the segments. he would laugh as soon as ryan opened his mouth, let alone before he said anything that would be considered misinformation.

Link'em

[hater]

I would be for this if only for the comedic purposes of a potential Biden vs Trump election.campaign :lol

[cd021]

It wasn't a tactic. He was literally laughing at the ridiculous misinformation coming out of Paul Ryan's mouth.

Thats whats i assumed when i watched it

[hater]

:lol Biden already putting his foot in his mouth even before deciding to run :lmao

cnn:
Biden alters his role in bin Laden account
Vice president's latest remarks differ from his 'Don't go' version

[boutons_deux]

6 Things We Know About Biden's Chances

As the vice president mulls jumping into the 2016 race, here are the issues he'd face

Speculation swirling around Joe Biden's potential presidential bid reached a fever pitch Monday with multiple anonymous sources whispering in new organizations' ears that an announcement from the vice president could be expected within 48 hours, or perhaps over the weekend.

(http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/joe-biden-talks-tragedy-future-in-emotional-late-show-interview-20150911)Biden has opted out of a late-entry like this one at least once before, bowing out of a potential bid in '04 saying, "You just can't parachute into a presidential campaign." If he decides to jump in this time, he'll will have lot of ground to make up against frontrunners Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. Here's what he'll have to contend with.

Declining public demand

Public support for Joe Biden to enter the race has been steadily falling in recent months, according to a CNN/ORC poll (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/19/politics/cnn-orc-poll-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-democratic-debate/index.html) released Monday. In August, 53 percent of registered Democrats and left-leaning independents said they would support a Biden bid; that number fell to 47 percent after the first Democratic debate last week.

High favorability ratings...

The same poll shows that if Biden entered the race he'd hold an advantage over both of the top candidates in terms of favorability. Fifty one percent of Americans polled said they have positive feelings toward Biden, compared with 46 percent toward Clinton, and 41 percent toward Sanders.

Biden's unfavorability ratings are higher than Sanders', though — 37 percent of Americans polled have a negative opinion of him, compared to 29 percent for Sanders. Fully half of Americans polled, meanwhile, have negative feelings about Clinton.

...But low confidence in his abilities

According to that poll, Clinton is widely viewed as the most capable candidate to tackle every issue registered left-leaning voters were polled about: the economy, health care, race relations, climate change, foreign policy, gun policy and income inequality. She held an average 35-point advantage over Biden on those issues.

Big fundraising gap...

Draft Biden, the super PAC launched earlier this year to encourage a Biden run, was able to keep Biden in voters' minds during the recent Democratic debate with a well-placed advertising spot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=2RUNxejHftA), but as of late June (the most recent FEC disclosures (http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do) available), it had raised only $85,880. The super PAC is no doubt ramping up its efforts, and of course Biden has not yet announced if he'll run; but to put that number in perspective, between July and September the Clinton campaign raised $28.8 million, and the Sanders campaign $26.2 million. It's fair to say there's some catching up to do.

...But a long list of potential donors to tap

Democratic voters may be confident in Clinton on the issues, but the potentially good news for Biden is that top Democratic donors don't seem confident enough in the candidate to put their money where their mouths are — yet. Less than 10 percent of top donors to President Obama's campaign have solicited big donations on behalf of Clinton's campaign, according to a USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2015/10/18/hundreds-obama-bundlers-missing-clintons-elite-fundraising-ranks/74170182/) analysis. Just 76 out of the 833 donors who collected money for President Obama in 2012 are listed among those who have bundled at least $100,000 for Clinton this cycle — leaving a lot of donors, potentially, for Biden to swoop in and scoop up. At least one big Obama bundler, Jim Torrey, has met (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/424209/joe-biden-josh-alcorn) with members of Draft Biden about throwing his fundraising weight behind the candidate.

Stiff competition for key endorsements

One of the strongest indications Biden is serious about a run came last week when the VP called up Harold Schaitberger, president of the International Association of Fire Fighters, for a casual chat. The powerful union at one point appeared poised to endorse Clinton, but informed her campaign it was rethinking its support earlier this month. Clinton already has the support of seven national unions, but a number of labor groups — the United Steelworkers, the SEIU, the Teamsters and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, to name a few — still haven't endorsed a candidate.
If Biden wants to win their support, though, he'll face tough competition from Sanders, one of the most pro-labor mainstream candidates in recent memory. The Vermont senator has counted on strong support from unions his entire career — just take a gander at his list of top donors (https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00000528).

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/6-things-we-know-about-bidens-chances-20151020#ixzz3p8z5Z2Lo

[Fabbs]

Would Hillary go for a
Biden Prez
Hillary Vice (get a ton of the female vote)

gig?

Bernie Prez
Hillary Vice

gig?

[boutons_deux]

I don't think HRC would settle for veep. I'm pretty sure she's feels "entitled" to Pres, or nothing.

[Fabbs]

I think she could end up costing the Dems.
Has come across as real phony. The email thing, should have just said from Day 1 "I messed up."

[Will Hunting]

I don't think she has any big secrets she's hiding with the email thing but she's a hypocritical cunt when she wants to lynch Edward Snowden for telling Americans that their emails aren't being kept private while she's doing extra things to keep her emails private. If the NSA is allowed to spy on me then why the fuck isn't it allowed to spy on her?

[spurraider21]

i'd prefer him to shillary

[boutons_deux]

I'd say he's gonna run, talking to union people, and then this "I'm Presidential" stuff

Joe Biden offers a new account of his role in the Bin Laden raid

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-joe-biden-bin-laden-raid-20151020-story.html

But I think he'll be wasting his time, Hillary would beat him in so many demographics.

Policies? Joe and Hillary are the same, Hillary is probably more neocon/war-monger.

[boutons_deux]

Joe Biden Backed Bills To Make It Harder For Americans To Reduce Their Student Debt


As a senator from Delaware -- a corporate tax haven (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/01/business/how-delaware-thrives-as-a-corporate-tax-haven.html) where the financial industry is one of the state’slargest employers (http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2015/delaware-had-highest-share-of-employment-in-financial-activities-in-january-2015.htm) -- Biden was one of the key proponents of the 2005 legislation that is now bearing down on students like Ryan. That bill effectively prevents the $150 billion (http://www.ibtimes.com/americas-private-student-loan-debt-load-rising-despite-risks-costs-exceed-government-loans-1600860) worth of private student debt from being discharged, rescheduled or renegotiated as other debt can be in bankruptcy court.

Biden's efforts in 2005 were no anomaly. Though the vice president has long portrayed himself as a champion of the struggling middle class -- a man who famously commutes on Amtrak and mixes enthusiastically with blue-collar workers -- the Delaware lawmaker has played a consistent and pivotal role in the financial industry's four-decade campaign to make it harder for students to shield themselves and their families from creditors, according to an IBT review of bankruptcy legislation going back to the 1970s.

Biden's political fortunes rose in tandem with the financial industry's.

At 29, he won the first of seven elections to the U.S. Senate, rising to chairman (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/chairman/previous) of the powerful Judiciary Committee, which vets bankruptcy legislation. On that committee, Biden helped lenders make it more difficult for Americans to reduce debt through bankruptcy -- a trend that experts say encouraged banks to loan more freely with less fear that courts could erase their customers’ repayment obligations. At the same time, with more debtors barred from bankruptcy protections, the average American’s debt load went up (http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/09/how-americans-love-affair-with-debt-has-grown/63552/) by two-thirds over the last 40 years. Today, there is more than $10,000 of personal debt for every person in the country, as compared to roughly $6,000 in the early 1970s.

That increase -- and its attendant interest payments -- have generated huge profits for a financial industry that delivered more than $1.9 million (http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00001669&type=I) of campaign contributions to Biden over his career, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.

Student debt, which grew as Biden climbed the Senate ladder and helped lenders tighten bankruptcy laws, spiked from $24 billion (http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/10/07/the-growth-in-student-debt/) issued annually in 1990-91 to $110 billion in 2012-13, according to data from the Pew Research Center.

“Joe Biden bears a large amount of responsibility for passage of the bankruptcy bill,” Ed Boltz, president of the National Association of Consumer Bankruptcy Attorneys,

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-joe-biden-bin-laden-raid-20151020-story.html

BigFinance OWNS Biden and Hillary.

[spurraider21]

VP Joe Biden says he will not run for president in 2016 (http://news.yahoo.com/vp-joe-biden-not-run-president-2016-161838267--politics.html)

[boutons_deux]

VP Joe Biden says he will not run for president in 2016 (http://news.yahoo.com/vp-joe-biden-not-run-president-2016-161838267--politics.html)




good news. and way too late, but he got his ego stroked by generating the attention. fuck him. Hillary or Joe, same conventional center-right/neocon policies, owned by BigFinance.

[DMX7]

I prefer him to Hillary as well but it's better that Hillary doesn't have to waste all her money in the primary unless she has to against Bernie.

[tlongII]

Good news for Trump. He can beat Hillary.

[boutons_deux]

Good news for Trump. He can beat Hillary.

Trump could beat his meat, but that's all.

[boutons_deux]

Joe's old problem with women and blacks

Biden's 'Anita' problem

If the vice president runs, Clinton and other opponents could use his treatment of Anita Hill to erode his support among women and blacks.

Biden's done a lot over the past 24 years, including authoring the landmark Violence Against Women Act and leading its four reauthorizations. But that hasn't erased the memories of how Biden presided over those hearings as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, blamed for doing little to stop the attacks on Hill and opting not to call three other witnesses who would have echoed Hill's charges of sexual harassment. Biden almost apologetically gave Thomas the benefit of the doubt, critics say, and that stance helped put Thomas on the Supreme Court.

Ever since, for many women and blacks, Hill's name conjures an image of a black woman struggling under attack by a dozen powerful white men asking aggressive questions and questioning her character.

If Biden decides to run for president, his path to the Democratic nomination requires him to stand in the way of the woman who could be the first female president — and issues of sex and gender will be on the table (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/23/biden-and-anita-hill-revisited/?_r=0) whether either side likes it or not.

Moreover, Biden's campaign strategy, if he decides to run, will hinge on the South Carolina primary, where African-Americans make up enough of the Democratic electorate to decide the winner. And he'll need to capture a significant share of the black vote in other states as well to have a chance in what would likely be a long and tough fight for Democrats through next spring.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/biden-anita-hill-women-senate-clarence-thomas-213864#ixzz3pEdxmKhL

[spurraider21]

but but, i thought only republicans politicized tragedy :cry

[boutons_deux]

Joe Biden stayed out of 2016 race because he knew he couldn’t win: ‘I wouldn’t run against Hillary’
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/joe-biden-stayed-out-of-2016-race-because-he-knew-he-couldnt-win-i-wouldnt-run-against-hillary/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29