Was Andrew Luck prematurely anointed as the second coming?

[spurraider21]

Don't get me wrong, dude was the best QB prospect coming out of college in a long time, maybe since Elway. All the physical tools, the cerebral approach, the toughness and grit, the clutch wins, the pedigree...

- And then he had the task of replacing Peyton Manning and immediately guided the team to an 11-5 record and a playoff birth.
- He improved his numbers in his second year, and led the team to that amazing playoff comeback performance against the Chiefs.
- Then in his 3rd year he put up elite numbers, throwing for 40 TD's, 4,700 yards, etc.

At this point, people starting naming him among the elites in the league... in the offseason, frequently listing top QB's as (rodgers, brady, manning, luck, ben, etc)


But quite frankly, has he really been all that good, or have we just been victims of confirmation bias? Brushed off his mistakes as non-issues while praising everything he did right. Even his flaws are turned into complements... he throws a pick, and gets Brett Favre comparisons (HOF-er), etc.

I'm not suggesting he's not a good quarterback... and at this point I'd still take him over any QB under the age of 30 moving forward, but did we (NFL fan community) jump the gun a bit regarding his "eliteness?"

i'll just leave a bunch of stats from anonymous qb's as comparisons

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[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I always thought he was on par with Cam in a weak division. Guy has so many weapons. He's an elite gun slinger right now, like early Cutler. He'll get better but is way overhyped

[DPG21920]

So many weapons :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

No, Struggle Wilson was.

/thread

[Clipper Nation]

I always thought he was on par with Cam
http://i.imgur.com/2zpnHes.gif


Guy has so many weapons.
http://i.imgur.com/jN3lIsq.gif


He's an elite gun slinger right now, like early Cutler.
http://i.imgur.com/rARV4dQ.gif

[spurraider21]

No, Struggle Wilson was.

/thread
i dont think anybody on ST outside of the delusional avante ever anointed wilson as the second coming.

as always, i've firmly been on the Luck > Wilson wagon


but nice deflection. thread about luck? bring up wilson

just like upstairs. thread about kawhi? bring up parker

[spurraider21]

So many weapons :lmao
better than most

[SuperCam]

lmao, like moncrief/hilton aren't a borderline elite starting WR duo now that my nigga Donte has come into his own, tbh. Gore still has some left in the tank too...

[spurraider21]

hilton en route to his 3rd straight 1k season. andre johnson coming off 950+ yard season with atrocious QB play despite being the #2 receiver. started his career with reggie wayne who put up 1350 in luck's rookie year. hasselbeck's first game off the bench and fleener ends up with 80+ and a TD.

it's not an elite receiving group, but he certainly has weapons. similar in talent to the chargers receiving group

[J.T.]

I think this thread may be premature. Luck was 60% for 312 yards, 3 TDs and no turnovers yesterday. Are the Patriots an elite defense? No but he had been fumbling and throwing a ton of picks before this game. There were some throws that were too long or too short, which has always been one of his flaws (sailing the ball too much). But I think it's very clear that the problem with the 2015 Colts is bad coaching and no depth at many positions on the roster.

[Big Dog]

Good bump material here

[J.T.]

Let's also not forget to talk about the like 1000 yards of offense the Colts have had called back on holding penalties this year, which I guess I already covered when I said their biggest problem is bad coaching.

[Big Dog]

Let's also not forget to talk about the like 1000 yards of offense the Colts have had called back on holding penalties this year, which I guess I already covered when I said their biggest problem is bad coaching.
Coaching, injuries and just bad luck.

But really, don't mean to be a dick and I know its October, but when does the :cry I had cancer and fought it courageously so I get to keep my job despite my shittiness :cry finally wear off?

[Holden_Caulfield]

The only difference between bortles and luck is the throwing mechanics, tbh

[spurraider21]

this isn't to say luck can't become elite... i'm just asking if he was declared elite prematurely

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Pagano is a mediocre coach, but what he can do is get a team to rally behind him as he gives great speeches. Coaching is definitely the problem but I won't give all the blame to Chuck. I've heard numerous reports saying that GM Ryan Grigson has a say in personell and coaching staff. I can't stand Pep Hamilton, I'm pretty sure he is a Grigson guy and Chuck didn't really have a say.

Speaking of Ryan Grigson, if anything I hope he is the one to go. He's had 4 years to build up an O-line and it seems like it's just getting worse.

[Avante]

i dont think anybody on ST outside of the delusional avante ever anointed wilson as the second coming.

as always, i've firmly been on the Luck > Wilson wagon


but nice deflection. thread about luck? bring up wilson

just like upstairs. thread about kawhi? bring up parker

Wilson two SB's, Luck.....none!

Delusional?

Now check out their passer ratings for a career.

No QB in history compares to RW after three seasons, none! And he's done it with no stud/great receivers. No Calvin Johnson. Dez Bryant, Antonio Gates, Gronk, Antionio Brown.

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As far as Luck goes, he's good but he has played how many games vs Hous/Tenn/Jax?

[J.T.]

Coaching, injuries and just bad luck.

But really, don't mean to be a dick and I know its October, but when does the :cry I had cancer and fought it courageously so I get to keep my job despite my shittiness :cry finally wear off?

I've long been on the record saying Pagano will get a longer run and Indy than he deserves because the cancer thing. When the Colts were 0-2, I even suggested to a friend that it would take him getting cancer again for the team to make the playoffs this year.

[Clipper Nation]

this isn't to say luck can't become elite... i'm just asking if he was declared elite prematurely
Philo hedging his bets for future ownage bumps :lol

[spurraider21]

Philo hedging his bets for future ownage bumps :lol
It's not hedging. I've even said I'd take him over any qb under 30 going forward. He has the ability to be elite. Then again you're the one who calls qb's like Flacco and Eli elite :lol

[AlexJones]

This will be good bump material in 2 years

[Avante]

Philo hedging his bets for future ownage bumps :lol

Joe Flacco, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JoeTait75]

New-school Sonny Jurgenson: great QB hamstrung by shit personnel around him.

[Avante]

New-school Sonny Jurgenson: great QB hamstrung by shit personnel around him.

What?

When Jurgenson was at Philly he had HOFer Tommy McDonald and Pete Retslaff a great TE. At Washington he had the fantastic Bobby Mitchell who retired as the all time leading receiver.

[DPG21920]

Lucks offensive line & weapons are sub par. They have never had a run game, his TEs have always been average to below average & his WR while decent aren't even in the top 10 WR groups. It's laughable to suggest otherwise

[spurraider21]

This will be good bump material in 2 years
The thread won't be relevant in 2 years. This isn't a thread saying "luck will never be elite."

[DPG21920]

It's a pretty simple exercise. Is he as good as Rodgers? No. No one is right now. But if you put Luck on any other top team with good weapons seems pretty clear he's an upgrade. Or even easier - what other QB has enough talent to take these Colts (or last years) to the playoffs and get a win. List is probably 3 deep.

[spurraider21]

People were picking the Colts to make the superbowl this year. Luck struggles early in the season and then we start hearing about how terrible the team is.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

It's a pretty simple exercise. Is he as good as Rodgers? No. No one is right now. But if you put Luck on any other top team with good weapons seems pretty clear he's an upgrade. Or even easier - what other QB has enough talent to take these Colts (or last years) to the playoffs and get a win. List is probably 3 deep.

Cam would no doubt.

How would he (Luck) do in Carolina?

[spurraider21]

Cam would no doubt.

How would he (Luck) do in Carolina?
Pretty sure he could gone 7-9 last year in Carolina

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Pretty sure he could gone 7-9 last year in Carolina

:lol Could he have gone 5-0 this year though?

PS: That's debatable. Give him a fractured rib and offseason surgery.

[Clipper Nation]

Joe Flacco, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:lmao Alice Smith
:lmao Struggle Wilson

[DPG21920]

People were picking the Colts to make the superbowl this year. Luck struggles early in the season and then we start hearing about how terrible the team is.

There's a lot of idiots. And part of the reason they picked IND is because how great Luck was with such a bad team. The fact that they added any talent (even though old & past prime) was enough to make people believe.

[Avante]

:lmao Alice Smith
:lmao Struggle Wilson

Little man....


Avante..Alex Smith is a middle of the pack QB.
Avante...RW just had the best first three seasns we have ever seen from any QB.

CN...Joe Flacco is an elite QB,

I was right, you are wrong.

[J.T.]

People were picking the Colts to make the superbowl this year. Luck struggles early in the season and then we start hearing about how terrible the team is.

Tbh most of the people talking about the Colts struggles this year think the problems are coming from the top. Don't get me wrong, I see what you see when you made this thread and Luck may very well have a "down" season even after accounting for the 2 less games he'll play than everyone else... but it's not Andrew Luck's fault his GM went all in on his talent and didn't sign enough players to create CB depth this offseason, burning another 1st on a WR, failed to continue developing the LB corps after getting a few decent players in his first year as GM, etc.

It's not Andrew Luck's fault his head coach runs stupid shit like that 4th and 3 play because he's afraid of Belichick. He has some things he can work on for sure but I'd say Luck's struggles are only half of why the Colts are 3-3 right now.

[Lebron4MVP]

The Colts front office is the main issue. They fail to improve that defense and o-line year in and year out. They traded a 1st round pick for fucking Trent Richardson. The run they had last year was pure fools gold. They played the Bengals and a declining Broncos team. They added old talent to the roster and hope that it will all pan out. The Colts should already be a loaded team with multiple stars they drafted rather than having the roster they have now.

[Vokun]

Luck is WAY overrated.

[Vokun]

I've been trying to tell people for the longest that Luck is the most overrated stat padder in the NFL.

Since 2013 Luck is...

15-0 vs AFC South

10-14 vs non-divisional

Luck is undefeated in the horrible AFC south. He has a losing record in non-divisional games and is horrible against winning teams. Cam Newton is as much of a winner as Andrew Luck is, and in fact wins with less on offense. Wilson blows out Luck in pretty much every statistic too. Luck is a turnover machine. Luck is Matthew Stafford reincarnated. Throw the ball a lot, compile a lot of stats but never get anywhere. And that gets boring and the coach gets fired. Luck isn't even capable of maintaining a 60% completion, yet he is this "accurate" passer.

[spurraider21]

the saints? lol

[DPG21920]

the saints? lol

But, but all those talented WR's can't beat the Saints secondary 1v1????

[spurraider21]

But, but all those talented WR's can't beat the Saints secondary 1v1????
doesnt matter when he's throwing it to the wrong guys.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-orleans-saints/0ap3000000564808/Colts-Andrew-Luck-intercepted-by-Saints-Stefon-Anthony

an elite QB wouldn't need elite weapons to beat up on the saints

[Pelicans78]

But, but all those talented WR's can't beat the Saints secondary 1v1????

I think the Saints defense will get better every week. A lot of young/rookie playmakers.

[DPG21920]

doesnt matter when he's throwing it to the wrong guys.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-orleans-saints/0ap3000000564808/Colts-Andrew-Luck-intercepted-by-Saints-Stefon-Anthony

an elite QB wouldn't need elite weapons to beat up on the saints

Ok

[spurraider21]

glad we're in agreement

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Was Andrew Luck prematurely anointed as the second coming
Yes.

[DPG21920]

Shhhhhh, girl

- Andrew Luck; 10/25/2015 2:45 p.m.

[spurraider21]

Shhh, girl

- TY Hilton

https://i.gyazo.com/897fc08880b2b11208bcf889dafa3067.gif



is the 20 yard separation good enough for you, DPG?

[unleashbaynes]

The defender slipped and fell down.....just stop....

[spurraider21]

is this one enough separation?

https://i.gyazo.com/9fb959fc7b1f5ad11e47ee2606273267.gif

[DPG21920]

:lmao So when the WR's are getting beasted 1v1 it's on Luck. When they finally get open it's all them :

[spurraider21]

:lmao So when the WR's are getting beasted 1v1 it's on Luck. When they finally get open it's all them :
your'e doing the same shit. luck struggles and you start crying about the WR's

TY breaks wide open twice and you say "shhhh"

can't have your cake and eat it too. i'm not saying Luck doesn't deserve credit for those plays, just pointing out how hypocritical you're being

[DPG21920]

No. You are not looking at the game just the box score. Luck did play bad, but was under immense pressure and his guys weren't winning one on one battles. What's he supposed to do? Rush for 344 yards? He didn't help, but a lot was on him having to do too much.

He's stayed composed and if they can have a good drive here he has them with a chance to win. You are the one that keeps bringing up all the talent they have and I have kept showing you how that's just not true.

[Clipper Nation]

Philo's hatred for Luck to prop up Wilson is rivaling No Lyfe Faggot's non-stop fluffing of Cum Newton.

[spurraider21]

i have been watching the game, so dont give me that crap. he's missed throws and thrown bad INT's. one in the red zone when they needed points at the end of the half. the pick that came before it was just staring the receiver down and ignoring covereage

and your'e the one who brought up his weapons as a way to shift blame

[spurraider21]

Philo's hatred for Luck to prop up Wilson is rivaling No Lyfe Faggot's non-stop fluffing of Cum Newton.
except that makes no sense since i've ALWAYS said Luck > Wilson... so any time i try to "bring luck down" i'm only pushing wilson down further

[DPG21920]

i have been watching the game, so dont give me that crap.

and your'e the one who brought up his weapons as a way to shift blame

:lmao If you say you were watching the game and then say I am brining up his weapons to "deflect" you are either lying or dumb. Because the entire game even the announcers were lamenting how IND skill players were losing one on one all game.

[spurraider21]

:lmao If you say you were watching the game and then say I am brining up his weapons to "deflect" you are either lying or dumb. Because the entire game even the announcers were lamenting how IND skill players were losing one on one all game.
you've been bringing up his weapons every since i starting criticizing him, not speaking specifically about today. and yes the announcers were also mentioning how amazing breaux has been all season

[Will Hunting]

Not taking blame away from Luck at all since he has played like shit, but when a team starts every game digging itself a hole the way the Colts do, I assume there's also a coaching problem.

[DPG21920]

Great throw by Luck, TY should have had that, but great defensive play too

[DPG21920]

Tremendous drive and response by Luck and the Colts. Hopefully he gets one more shot.

[spurraider21]

Tremendous drive and response by Luck and the Colts. Hopefully he gets one more shot.
shades of the colts-chiefs playoff game from a few years back

[DPG21920]

shades of the colts-chiefs playoff game from a few years back

:lol They should have the ball back but just missed it.

[spurraider21]

:lol They should have the ball back but just missed it.
inb4 luck recovers a fumble for a TD :lol

[DPG21920]

inb4 luck recovers a fumble for a TD :lol

:lmao

[DPG21920]

This is a massive 3rd down. You have Brees and I think you go for it and try and ice it. But if they run it here and don't get it..

[DPG21920]

There it is - great call.

[Darth_Pelican]

Rob Ryan is the worst D Coordinator in the NFL when it comes to protecting a lead and stepping on a team's throat. He went to a prevent soft zone the entire 4th quarter instead of sticking to what was working the entire game, which was putting pressure on Luck and forcing him to make bad decisions. I'm glad we held on.

[spurraider21]

from what i read about Luck this year is that he has been uncharacteristically bad against the blitz, where he used to excel. tbh thats a hallmark of the great QB's. peytons passer rating against the blitz was always godly

[DPG21920]

from what i read about Luck this year is that he has been uncharacteristically bad against the blitz, where he used to excel. tbh thats a hallmark of the great QB's. peytons passer rating against the blitz was always godly

Yup. It's true he's been bad there. But it's a combo of the guys not getting as open and pressure being way worse too. Then you couple Luck's shaky moments and presto you have that stat.

[pgardn]

At this rate Luck won't last two years. He gets hit way too much.

[Aztecfan03]

Rob Ryan is the worst D Coordinator in the NFL when it comes to protecting a lead and stepping on a team's throat. He went to a prevent soft zone the entire 4th quarter instead of sticking to what was working the entire game, which was putting pressure on Luck and forcing him to make bad decisions. I'm glad we held on.
he's not the only one.

[DPG21920]

he's not the only one.

Seems pretty common in the NFL. Coaches play the "game" vs what was actually working. Baffles, but this is a league of copy cats and slow change.

[Avante]

I saw Luck play alot while at Stanford and a lot of his NFL games, there is something wrong with him physically now. I can see it, it's real obvious he doesn't have the same zip. I'm guessing he's bullshitting about being ok because he wants to play. So I can't hold those INT's against him, he needs more time off.

[IronMexican]

Rob Ryan is the worst D Coordinator in the NFL when it comes to protecting a lead and stepping on a team's throat. He went to a prevent soft zone the entire 4th quarter instead of sticking to what was working the entire game, which was putting pressure on Luck and forcing him to make bad decisions. I'm glad we held on.

You don't have to tell any Raider fan about this. We all thought it was AL, he maybe nktnot.

[spurraider21]

according to Jay Glazer he's been dealing with broken ribs since week 3

[spurraider21]

i want to say the ribs are affecting his throwing, but he was running fine today. just some really curious decisions

[Avante]

The guy is obviouisly hurt, time to lay off him until he's better.

My knock on him is that he gets six games a season in that weakass division. Who wouldn't look great?

[Mal]

according to Jay Glazer he's been dealing with broken ribs since week 3

Pagano fighting for his job, Luck in contract year. Of course this is recipe for disaster. GM or owner shoudl intervene

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

The guy is obviouisly hurt, time to lay off him until he's better.

My knock on him is that he gets six games a season in that weakass division. Who wouldn't look great?

You better not praise NE for the past 10 years then

[spurraider21]

This year Luck has been taking 2.87 seconds to get rid of the ball, 4th longest in the NFL. Hasselbeck was getting rid of the ball in 2.28 seconds.

Luck has thrown 6 of his interceptions while under pressure. The other 6 have come from clean pockets.

If his rib injury is the cause of his poor play, he needs to sit for the better of the team.

[Trill Clinton]

The guy is obviouisly hurt, time to lay off him until he's better.

My knock on him is that he gets six games a season in that weakass division. Who wouldn't look great?


luck gets every benefit of the doubt there is. rg3 played on a bum knee and got cruficied.

[Avante]

luck gets every benefit of the doubt there is. rg3 played on a bum knee and got cruficied.

I'm no Andrew Luck fan, the guy looks goofy. I just know when something just isn't right. I mentioned above there is something wrong with him, yep...cracked ribs as we just found out.

The guy didn't all of a sudden get bad. Keep in mind I'm that...RW is better than Luck....guy, so I should be....see see see..but I can't, because the guy is hurting.

I said...Kirk Cousins will end up the starter...when he and RGIII were rookies.

[Trill Clinton]

I'm no Andrew Luck fan, the guy looks goofy. I just know when something just isn't right. I mentioned above there is something wrong with him, yep...cracked ribs as we just found out.

The guy didn't all of a sudden gt bad.

I said...Kirk Cousins will end up the starter...when he and RGIII were rookies.

gotcha. cam had broken ribs last year too and still made the playoffs. if luck's ribs are that much of a problem he needs to sit and let hassellback start. the team played much better with hassellback at qb anyways.

[Avante]

gotcha. cam had broken ribs last year too and still made the playoffs. if luck's ribs are that much of a problem he needs to sit and let hassellback start. the team played much better with hassellback at qb anyways.

Bingo~~~~~~

The Colts can win that shitty divsion with Hassellback. Save Luck for the playoffs. Maybe let him play after the division is wrapped up.

[Trill Clinton]

Bingo~~~~~~

The Colts can win that shitty divsion with Hassellback. Save Luck for the playoffs. Maybe let him play after the division is wrapped up.

:tu

[spurraider21]

55 interceptions in 54 career games :wow

Pre-superbowl Favre

[DPG21920]

Fantastic game (facing tons of pressure) against an elite defense.

[HarlemHeat37]

He was really impressive and finally made great decisions, tbh..

[spurraider21]

Good to see him getting back into form.

[Avante]

THIS....is why ya don't play this...good game he's great...bad game he sucks....hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

GIVE THINGS SOME TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was under the assumption Luck was hurt, well if he was he appears to be ok now.

[Avante]

People...

I've seen some of you.....he sucks...over a pass thrown in a game, ha~~~~~ Then in the same game....great pass...ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ya wait until a season is over ok? Then he had a great/good/sucky season, ok rookies? Ya don't play this silliness game to game, ok?

Sheesh~~~~~~~~~

My stance on Luck was ...he's nursing an ailment....and it's obvious.

[Avante]

LSU's Leonard Fournette sucks, he did nothing vs Alabama.

Ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Trill Clinton]

haven't heard anything about his ribs so i'm guessing he's back at 100%

[Avante]

haven't heard anything about his ribs so i'm guessing he's back at 100%

I've had sore ribs (football) can't imagine thrying to throw a football.

[Blake]

People...

I've seen some of you.....he sucks...over a pass thrown in a game, ha~~~~~ Then in the same game....great pass...ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ya wait until a season is over ok? Then he had a great/good/sucky season, ok rookies? Ya don't play this silliness game to game, ok?

Sheesh~~~~~~~~~

My stance on Luck was ...he's nursing an ailment....and it's obvious.

I don't normally care what people post but I honestly wish your computer would break.

[Avante]

I don't normally care what people post but I honestly wish your computer would break.

translation

Damn that Avantre, he tells it like it really is, yep, we need to criticize a season not game to game, yep, rookie! I follow him around for this reason, he knows the game.

[spurraider21]

haven't heard anything about his ribs so i'm guessing he's back at 100%
i'm sure if he struggles in his next couple of games they'll conveniently be hurting again

[Avante]

i'm sure if he struggles in his next couple of games they'll conveniently be hurting again

Wow! Dude, you couldn't see he was hurting before, come on guy.

[spurraider21]

Wow! Dude, you couldn't see he was hurting before, come on guy.
i remember he got hurt and missed some games. but he wasn't playing any different before or after the injury, imo

but he just turned in his best game of the season against the best defense in the league, so maybe its a sign of things to come

[Avante]

i remember he got hurt and missed some games. but he wasn't playing any different before or after the injury, imo

but he just turned in his best game of the season against the best defense in the league, so maybe its a sign of things to come

Wrong again. He didn't have the same zip and it was obvious.

Look, ya know I'm a RW is better than Luck guy so I should be ..see see...right? I can't because it was real obvious the guy wasn't right.

[spurraider21]

i still have luck > wilson, that hasn't changed

[Avante]

i still have luck > wilson, that hasn't changed

Ya also had the Rams winning a road game vs a team with a winning record, ha~~~~~~~

[spurraider21]

Ya also had the Rams winning a road game vs a team with a winning record, ha~~~~~~~
and it was an overtime game decided by a field goal. non-issue

[Avante]

and it was an overtime game decided by a field goal. non-issue

I think I said that once over some ATS play, with you....."ya lost, own it, ok?"

[spurraider21]

yep, it was the wrong pick. and you went 2-3 this week. shit happens. and you once blamed voodoo for losing :lol

[Avante]

yep, it was the wrong pick. and you went 2-3 this week. shit happens. and you once blamed voodoo for losing :lol

As you totally ignore plus $1000, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dude, I'm not losing a dime, ok? I never do, as you have seen, I play with their $$$$., ok?

Plus $3100 the last two seasons, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~

Stupid, you dumb enought to think anyone would actually blame voodoo, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

[spurraider21]

As you totally ignore plus $1000, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Stupid, you dumb enought to think anyone would actually blame voodoo, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
you sure did. you also blamed mason once :lol

[Avante]

you sure did. you also blamed mason once :lol

Dummy, so I just all of a sudden figured it out, just how dumb are you? Since I said.."ok now my legit picks"...plus $3100.

I'm ahead of where I was in 2014 after nine weeks.

[Aztecfan03]

It must suck for Mason to have a Pedo as a father.

[HarlemHeat37]

It must suck for Mason to have a Pedo as a father.

:wow

[Avante]

It must suck for Mason to have a Pedo as a father.

Sailors in bars, idiot, ok? Nobody at all interested in kids, ok moron. TONS of full grown women there.

Fucking idiot~~~

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Play calling was the difference in this game. Luck got rid of the ball much quicker. Receivers ran shorter routes and Chud utilized the TEs more. Colts fans have been screaming for this for a couple years now.

Also it's time to bench Andre Johnson. Dude is done and his snaps need to go to Griff Whalen.

[spurraider21]

Luck out 2-6 weeks with a lacerated kidney

[Avante]

Luck out 2-6 weeks with a lacerated kidney

They can still win that shit division without Luck.

[Raven]

well deserved, he was monkeying all over againt the broncos.

[Canyonero]

Colts will be fine with Hasselbeck.

[spurraider21]

Colts will be fine with Hasselbeck.
Obviously. The real question is if they'll be fine when Luck gets back. :downspin:

[Canyonero]

Obviously. The real question is if they'll be fine when Luck gets back. :downspin:

Yes

[HarlemHeat37]

My $250 fantasy league team has Luck, Keenan Allen and Dion Lewis..smh..

[HI-FI]

lacerated kidney doesn't sound good but I'm sure Irsay can hook Luck up with drugs.

[SuperCam]

TOSB Hasselbeck making things go with the same Indy personnel is quite a bad look for Luck, tbh :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol damn, bad look for Luck, tbh..

[spurraider21]

if the colts carry this win streak, do they go back to luck?

[Avante]

Andrew Luck is going to be a great QB, if the Colts plan on being set there for the next decade at QB, it would be best if they simply shut him down for 2015. Do the best they can with what they have. If they bring back Luck and he's not ready or gets hurt again..........

[DPG21920]

if the colts carry this win streak, do they go back to luck?

Of course. Comparing a healthy Matt to an injured Luck is just the first level. Have to look at schedule (who they beat vs whom Luck lost to, etc..). It's a no brainer you go back to Luck.

[Raven]

if the colts carry this win streak, do they go back to luck?

:lol yes.

[spurraider21]

yeah... hasselbeck basically needed to play flawless to keep luck off the field, not happening

[J.T.]

Colts should hopefully be able to beat the Jags without Luck again...not sure what kind of shape Hasselbeck is in but I'm sure the league will let the Colts play offense with 13 men so that they can run the "Weekend at Bernie's" formation if they need to.