Preseason: Spurs vs Suns -- Tuesday (10/20) - 7:30pm CST

[cd98]

Yeah, I'm not saying we made a mistake there...we had to let him go. I just hope we get a decent replacement by the trade deadline.

We'll be buyout shoppers. ESP for PG. We need a steal like the Rockets got.

[SuperCam]

kiwi iso bullshit is getting this team killed :bang

[NASpurs]

Pop giving DG that tough love again. Fucking idiot.

[cd98]

I was always a fan, tbh

Speaking generally, not you specifically.

[TEXICAN]

Alright Simmons show us something

[SPURt]

Danny getting benched lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Another turnover for Kiwi. Shit passer

[SAGirl]

Pop coaching Leonard hard!

[Texas_Ranger]

I hope the Spurs are playing these games like shit on purpose cause if this is the way they'll play the season this will be really bad.

[TheGreatYacht]

Pop coaching Leonard hard!
Finally no more cookie cutter treatment

[SuperCam]

Can't run the offense through a passer as bad as Kiwi, just can't, tbh.

[Hoops Czar]

matador defense

[ace3g]

slomo dunk

[SAGirl]

Lol Anderson Slam! :lmao

[TEXICAN]

Bye bye Simmons

[SAGirl]

Anderson drawing fouls!

[SpurPadre]

We'll be buyout shoppers. ESP for PG. We need a steal like the Rockets got.

Yeah, maybe Bud can do us another solid and give us Sefolosha.

[NASpurs]

This is horrendous :lol

[r0drig0lac]

simmons is crap today

[DeRozan m8]

Tony is known for being efficient.

Meanwhile...

595685549630988289

Tony WAS known for being efficient, now as much as I hate to say it, he's looking like a cancer basically.

Stop living the past, dickhead

[SAGirl]

The duel is Reggie vs. Simmons TBH

[FkLA]

Kawhi and Danny make a mistake: benched
Rique shoots 30% all pre-season: still out there sucking

[TheGreatYacht]

MVParker with 7 assists, Kiwi with 7TO's :wakeup

[Kawhitstorm]

Seems like this is tryout game for Simmons/Williams before Pop makes his cuts since they are getting early PT.

[loveforthegame]

Kawhi and Danny make a mistake: benched
Rique shoots 30% all pre-season: still out there sucking

[cd98]

Pop coaching Leonard hard!

He can now that Leonard is locked in for a long term contract. He can't leave now .

[spursgu]

Simmons about to get Toro'd or waived.

[NASpurs]

Simmons has a -16 in 9 minutes... amazing.

[TEXICAN]

If only Anderson was fast...Another slow player in the rotation isn't what we need

[ElNono]

Seems like this is tryout game for Simmons/Williams before Pop makes his cuts since they are getting early PT.

exactly what i was thinking

[SPURt]

I can't hear him, but MC Nuggetz looks like he's killing it

[GreggPopAsnitch]

Aldridge hasn't showed anything impressive all preseason tbh

[Chinook]

Simmons has a -16 in 9 minutes... amazing.

It's Jimmer bad. Keeping Williams over Simmons would cost the team an ass-ton of money, but they just might do it.

[random21]

Simmons in the summer league had the ball in his hands a whole lot with a bunch of scrubs watching him.... He is now playing in a system with lots of ball movement and he is struggling....

[apalisoc_9]

Jesus Pop...Why do you hate your wing players so much. Green made one mistake and instantly on the bench :lol..Kawhi makes one errand pass and he's benched

That's just going to make them feel hesitant with every move they make..

I thought Green's three wasn't the worse either :lol

[NASpurs]

Manu being Manu :lol

[r0drig0lac]

nice pass

[NASpurs]

Sick pass by fat head to LMA

[TheDoctor]

Kyle's a beast

[SAGirl]

What a pass by Anderson!

[cd98]

Jesus Pop...Why do you hate your wing players so much. Green made one mistake and instantly on the bench :lol..Kawhi makes one errand pass and he's benched

That's just going to make them feel hesitant with every move they make..

I thought Green's three wasn't the worse either :lol

Naw, preseason is the time to send messages. No dumb turnovers.

[SuperCam]

MVParker with 7 assists, Kiwi with 7TO's :wakeup

:wow

MVParker gonna have to will this team to victory once again, tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

Kyle has that backup 3 spot secured. No one has looked impressive in the 3rd unit

[SAGirl]

Kyle's a beast
SAve us from all these Isos Kyle!
:flag:

[RD2191]

-11 :lol porker

[NASpurs]

Homeless Harden >>>>>> Simmons

[SAGirl]

Simmons steps out for Reggie and we make a run... What does that say about Simms?

[SPURt]

Good for Williams.

[TheGreatYacht]

:wow

MVParker gonna have to will this team to victory once again, tbh
Head of the snake. Stats prove it :tu

[RD2191]

Head of the snake. Stats prove it :tu

Like him being -11? That stat?

[apalisoc_9]

West was wide open for layup and he decides to pass :lol

[spursgu]

Getting outplayed by Reggie Williams. Bad news. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Like him being -11? That stat?
Oh, now +/- matters?

[Hoops Czar]

Two three point shooters on the team, smh.

[Chinook]

Simmons steps out for Reggie and we make a run... What does that say about Simms?

That he really doesn't have a place on the team. I don't see how time in Austin would fix that.

[apalisoc_9]

Can people please stop quoting TGY..Trying to avoid his stupidity but it's hard if people consistently quote him

[LittleCriminal]

Its BOBAN time! Put his big ass in the game already POP!

[FkLA]

Jesus Pop...Why do you hate your wing players so much. Green made one mistake and instantly on the bench :lol..Kawhi makes one errand pass and he's benched

That's just going to make them feel hesitant with every move they make..

I thought Green's three wasn't the worse either :lol

They're shooting too well brah. Perimeter players have to shoot sub 30% to have their minutes guaranteed tbh.

[apalisoc_9]

That he really doesn't have a place on the team. I don't see how time in Austin would fix that.

By maybe learning how to play off the ball?

[GreggPopAsnitch]

Nothing has been accomplished from this preseason game at all.

Aldridge still uncomfortable
Parker still straight booty
2nd unit looking decent

same since the first game.

[NASpurs]

I hope we get to see Jimmer Tebow one last time.

[DarrinS]

Can people please stop quoting TGY..Trying to avoid his stupidity but it's hard if people consistently quote him

Really screws up that ignore feature.

[TheGreatYacht]

Don't know how anyone can take that pinoy nerd Apo serious. Wants to fuck his aunt, wants to trade Kawhi for Ariza and Beal, makes a thread about going bald :sleep

[Fireball]

it was premature to think that the Spurs could gel in preseason ... and these weird rotations do not help ... Manu should not play more minutes than Green

[Kawhitstorm]

Kyle has that backup 3 spot secured. No one has looked impressive in the 3rd unit Won't have to worry about which scrub (Williams/Simmons) makes the team esp. w/ Manu looking spry. Butler can also play wing minutes so the scrubs were going to be relegated to garbage time minute anyways. Ray looks like a decent backup so won't have to worry about the guard rotation.

[NASpurs]

:wow Kyle actually blew by someone

[apalisoc_9]

A few weeks ago people were arguing Simmons vs Anderson :lol

[RD2191]

They're shooting too well brah. Perimeter players have to shoot sub 30% to have their minutes guaranteed tbh.

Fuck Pop if he doesn't bench Porker this season tbh.

[r0drig0lac]

Kyle increasingly confident

[SAGirl]

That he really doesn't have a place on the team. I don't see how time in Austin would fix that.
I think it really is time for Pop to trim the roster TBH. The guys who are really playing in the RS need to get their act together and all this testing is throwing everyone off.

[SAGirl]

A few weeks ago people were arguing Simmons vs Anderson :lol
I was always in the Anderson camp. One of the brave few. lol

[spurraider21]

nice play ray

[NASpurs]

Ray Mac showing his game tonight.

[FkLA]

Ray>>>Rique

Spurs just gotta develop him. Dude has nice athleticism.

[TheGreatYacht]

Won't have to worry about which scrub (Williams/Simmons) makes the team esp. w/ Manu looking spry. Butler can also play wing minutes so the scrubs were going to be relegated to garbage time minute anyways. Ray looks like a decent backup so won't have to worry about the guard rotation.
Kyle started slow in the SL and in the preseason. Hopefully time in Austin will do Simms good like it did with Cojo as well? Jarell Eddie deserved a try out over any of these scrubs tbh...

Ray looks much better playing with good players, what do you know. Dude was destined to fail playing with Thomas, Simmons, Boban, and Butler

[Kawhitstorm]

Reggie looks like an NBA player on offense so he's most likely making the team over Simmons.

[ElNono]

Manu got his workout, shut him down for the night...

[Chinook]

By maybe learning how to play off the ball?

His whole development has been the opposite. He can't shoot -- not even if he has time. So if he's going to be an off-the-ball player, he's going to be on in Europe.

[ElNono]

What I noticed about LMA is that we're just not using him... not looking to post him, etc...

Might just be the plan during preseason

[cd98]

I hope we get to see Jimmer Tebow one last time.

Tebowesque only if he plays horrible throughout the fourth but hits his last 5 threes.

[Chinook]

I think it really is time for Pop to trim the roster TBH. The guys who are really playing in the RS need to get their act together and all this testing is throwing everyone off.

Yeah. Pulling Kawhi and Danny was hopefully not something he considers in the regular season. It's so obvious that the team needs them to play big minutes.

[Splits]

Don't know how anyone can take that pinoy nerd Apo serious. Wants to fuck his aunt, wants to trade Kawhi for Ariza and Beal, makes a thread about going bald :sleep

:lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

Kyle started slow in the SL and in the preseason. Hopefully time in Austin will do Simms good like it did with Cojo as well? Jarell Eddie deserved a try out over any of these scrubs tbh... Ray looks much better playing with good players, what do you know. Dude was destined to fail playing with Thomas, Simmons, Boban, and Butler Simmons is already 26, CoJo was like 19. Eddie is just a shooter like Butler/Reggie so his skillses wasn't a need esp. w/ a healthy Patty & Manu post Lasik surgery. He is also a terrible defender to be a rotation player.

[ElNono]

:lol this 3 guard lineup
:lol Pop

[SuperCam]

CIA Pop keeping the playbook closed on LMAlpha until the stakes are much higher. Genius :tu

[TheDoctor]

Reggie Williams slowly putting his foot on Simmons' throat.

[NASpurs]

Didn't West dribble, stopped and dribble again? :lmao

[SpurPadre]

Ray's looking good. I know some of you guys aren't high on him but he's got the tools to be a solid backup along with some underrated athleticism.

[SuperCam]

5 fkn turnovers from Kiwi already :bang

[Hoops Czar]

Take a seat West. You're pretty useless.

[TheGreatYacht]

Teletobitch still killing us per par

[SAGirl]

What I noticed about LMA is that we're just not using him... not looking to post him, etc...

Might just be the plan during preseason
I agree we need to get him more involved. We got him bc we need him to be beasting offensively and he's lost. I don't think posting up possession after possession is necessary but he needs to get into a different mindset. I think he's deferring too much, sometimes even hesitating to shoot. For all the criticism he's gotten, he's looked unsure what to do at times.

[ElNono]

I might have to downgrade the outlook of this team from 68 wins to 65 wins, tbh...

[NASpurs]

Makes you wonder what these bums were practicing during training camp :lol

[SpurPadre]

Fucking Television loves playing against the Spurs, doesn't he?

[spurraider21]

I might have to downgrade the outlook of this team from 68 wins to 65 wins, tbh...
i'm here at 64, slitting my wrists, tbh

[SuperCam]

This spectrum mfer going for 10 turnovers :lol

[Kawhitstorm]

I agree we need to get him more involved. We got him bc we need him to be beasting offensively and he's lost. I don't think posting up possession after possession is necessary but he needs to get into a different mindset. I think he's deferring too much, sometimes even hesitating to shoot. For all the criticism he's gotten, he's looked unsure what to do at times.

He's clearly not trying to shoot w/o thinking about "good to great"

[TheDoctor]

I might have to downgrade the outlook of this team from 68 wins to 65 wins, tbh...

Geez that's turrible :toast

[ElNono]

i'm here at 64, slitting my wrists, tbh

There's no Alpha Berlin this preseason, but hard to spin 1-4, tbh

[SpurPadre]

I might have to downgrade the outlook of this team from 68 wins to 65 wins, tbh...

You can bump it back to 68 after the trade deadline and buyout deadline, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Didn't Marqueef Morris want out of Phoenix?

[ace3g]

https://s.yimg.com/sr/imgv1/1/2b5f8bb7-deb2-3015-858e-806c3013ed4c

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[spurraider21]

:lmao this rebounding

[cd98]

Why is pop playing starters in the 4th quarter of a preseason game?

[TheGreatYacht]

These land whales yelled air ball at LMAlpha, booed West's and one.... Ungrateful fucks

[r0drig0lac]

simmons!

[RD2191]

-13:lol

[GreggPopAsnitch]

I agree we need to get him more involved. We got him bc we need him to be beasting offensively and he's lost. I don't think posting up possession after possession is necessary but he needs to get into a different mindset. I think he's deferring too much, sometimes even hesitating to shoot. For all the criticism he's gotten, he's looked unsure what to do at times.

We do need to get him more involved but we can't force him possessions. Most of the time he is just jammed up in the middle with no way to get the ball. His positioning seems awkward.

[spurraider21]

:lmao kiwi

[NASpurs]

WTF Kawhi :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

KAWHI BLOCKED BY THE RIM :lmao

[urunobili]

It feels as if he athletic trainer today really run them down...

[cd98]

Kawhoops

[apalisoc_9]

Aldridge is so slow :lol

Kawhi blocked by the rim :lmao

[spursistan]

Unfocused shit performance by Kawhi..

[ace3g]

those camera angles with the silver dancers, lol

[Fireball]

-13:lol

better than -33,912 tbh

[Spur|n|Austin]

Were these guys in the weight room today or something, wtf?

[NASpurs]

I just hope this is a sign of a veteran team waiting for the regular season to start.

[spurraider21]

:lmao the chat on one of these streams

https://i.gyazo.com/8ef58f21e4936005bc91a85862008359.png

[SAGirl]

We have chemistry issues, its going to be a long season. If it weren't for throwback Manu, some of these games would have been a disaster. Anderson has been a revelation, in that for as little experience as he's had, I think he will play a role in our season. His passing talent is elite even by NBA level, and the team has too many iso guys. When Manu is resting, God save us.
:downspin:

[ElNono]

Simms had a couple good plays in that stretch

[Spur|n|Austin]

KAWHI BLOCKED BY THE RIM :lmao

How is this comment different than you complaining about the fans at the ATTC?

[ElNono]

We have chemistry issues, its going to be a long season. If it weren't for throwback Manu, some of these games would have been a disaster. Anderson has been a revelation, in that for as little experience as he's had, I think he will play a role in our season. His passing talent is elite even by NBA level, and the team has too many iso guys. When Manu is resting, God save us.
:downspin:

Coasting, Non-Issue

[NASpurs]

Pop's going to start Patty, Jimmer, Simmons, Fat Head and West against the Rockets.

[Splits]

:lol LaMarsha

[spurraider21]

nice steal by tony

does simmons ever just take the open jumper? always pumps and drives

[Splits]

:lol LaMarsha again

:lol LaMarsha AGAIN!

[spursistan]

just hope we don't lose too much ground early on in the season as we iron out things..

[Hoops Czar]

Damn, Spurs starters are getting pwned by Sun's reserves.

[TheDoctor]

lol this is ugly.

[SuperCam]

:lmao the chat on one of these streams

https://i.gyazo.com/8ef58f21e4936005bc91a85862008359.png

:lmao

[GreggPopAsnitch]

Like a remedial science student, we have no chemistry.

[TheGreatYacht]

KD and chimps gonna kill us... :depressed

[cd98]

2/9 from Threes. This team is going to have some big shooting issues. Losing Beli is going to be painful. Obviously with Patty out, it hurts. But tonight, no real outside shooting.

[NASpurs]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/9868/popovich-wants-spurs-to-improve-transition-defense

Popovich wants Spurs to improve transition defense

SAN ANTONIO -- Offensive chemistry generated headlines and conversations regarding the San Antonio Spurs over the summer, but coach Gregg Popovich admitted before Tuesday’s matchup against the Phoenix Suns that defense is the team’s emphasis in the preseason.

Namely, transition defense, which is an area of Spurs deficiency that doomed the team last season in the first round of the Western Conference playoffs.

“Transition D has still been a problem,” Popovich said. “Our transition D still looks like it did in Game 6 and 7 against the Clippers last [season] in the first round. Worst transition defense in the history of basketball in those two games.”

How bad was it? Well, the Clippers outscored the Spurs 33-4 on the break in Game 6 and Game 7.

“So it’s been an emphasis to start this season,” Popovich said. “Because if we’re gonna be one of the worst offensive rebounding teams in the league, which we always are, we better be one of the best transition defense teams. Usually we are. But we weren’t last year in general, and it really showed in the last couple of games in the Clippers series.”

The Spurs outscored the Sacramento Kings 19-17 on the break in the exhibition opener, but have been bested in that category by the rest of their opponents throughout the preseason. Opponents have outscored San Antonio 82-65 through the first four games of the preseason.

“That’s the whole truth and nothing but the truth. ‘Can you handle the truth?’ I ask the players,” Popovich said. “So then, we do what we do and try to take care of it, right?”

Back to the drawing board, Pop.

[TheGreatYacht]

How is this comment different than you complaining about the fans at the ATTC?
LMA and West took pay cuts. They need to learn respect

[cd98]

I'm surprised that Fredette and Sykes aren't getting burn in a blow out. I guess Pop really wanted to see Manu and Parker play in a blow out.

[urunobili]

Last year Manu started the season with 20 points and stellar play and ended it looking slow. I much rather him starting slow and finishing awesome TBH.

Tony looking fast again.

TD awesome.

Don't get what's going on with Greens minutes.

LMA will make all the easy ones he's been missing.

Kawhi keep doing what you're doing.

Diaw has plenty left in the tank.

West will get meaner and tougher.

Patty will be awesome this season.

Kyle may get former Bellinellis minutes and role

[NASpurs]

17 minutes, -27

So long Simmons.

[spursgu]

I'm surprised that Fredette and Sykes aren't getting burn in a blow out. I guess Pop really wanted to see Manu and Parker play in a blow out.

More like they're getting cut. That Jimmer thread has lost fire since it became inevitable.

[spursgu]

Is Teletovic auditioning for the Spurs? They love picking up players that own them.

[FkLA]

Tony looking fast again.


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[itzsoweezee]

This bench is pretty bad without Patty

[r0drig0lac]

lol simms c'mon

[ajh18]

2/9 from Threes. This team is going to have some big shooting issues. Losing Beli is going to be painful. Obviously with Patty out, it hurts. But tonight, no real outside shooting.

Why do you think we're going to have "big shooting issues"? I miss Marco too, but he made 1.4 3s a game last year. We basically lost him and got Anderson, but also replaced a terrible shooting big in Tiago with a big who has range in Aldridge. We also didn't have Patty most of last year, and now he looks healthy. Cojo, Baynes... none of the other departures were good shooters. So where do the "big problems" come from? It looks like a pretty similar team shooting-wise to last year.

[cd98]

I think Williams and Simmons make the team and the rest get cut. I can't see Spurs taking a 36 year old Butler over one of these two young guys. Sure they will spend a lot of time in the D-league working on their games, but youth over age...I just see them going where the upside is.

[cd98]

Why do you think we're going to have "big shooting issues"? I miss Marco too, but he made 1.4 3s a game last year. We basically lost him and got Anderson, but also replaced a terrible shooting big in Tiago with a big who has range in Aldridge. We also didn't have Patty most of last year, and now he looks healthy. Cojo, Baynes... none of the other departures were good shooters. So where do the "big problems" come from? It looks like a pretty similar team shooting-wise to last year.

Three point shooting.

[SAGirl]

Simmons with a -27. I have never disliked him, but I was more cautious than most with all the hype about him. I missed the first half of the game, and the second has had lag at moments for me, so some plays I have missed, but Reggie outplaying him is a wake up call. He's only looked good for a min or two here or there, and that is sandwiched in between a lot more minutes of sucking. His confidence is shot.

Reggie is taking the banner and running along with it.

[cd98]

Why do you think we're going to have "big shooting issues"? I miss Marco too, but he made 1.4 3s a game last year. We basically lost him and got Anderson, but also replaced a terrible shooting big in Tiago with a big who has range in Aldridge. We also didn't have Patty most of last year, and now he looks healthy. Cojo, Baynes... none of the other departures were good shooters. So where do the "big problems" come from? It looks like a pretty similar team shooting-wise to last year.

Anderson is not in the same conversation with Beli and shooting.

[ajh18]

Three point shooting.

Again, we lost 1.4 3pointers a game in Marco. We got back a healthy Patty. And added Anderson. Where's the big drop off?

[ElNono]

Time for some cuts, and solidify the rotation, tbh

[cd98]

[QUOTE=ajh18;8227813]Again, we lost 1.4 3pointers a game in Marco. We got back a healthy Patty. And added Anderson. Where's the big drop off?

Ask Pop, I'm quoting him.

[Gladney to see you]

Anderson was awesome with the -19

[Kawhitstorm]

2/9 from Threes. This team is going to have some big shooting issues. Losing Beli is going to be painful. Obviously with Patty out, it hurts. But tonight, no real outside shooting.

Patty/Butler didn't play & Danny barely played. That's basically the top 3 shooters on the team.

[SpurPadre]

When Jimmer gets cut, someone should post that gif of Kawhi taunting him at college.

[Gladney to see you]

He couldn't do any worse that most anyone out there tonight that is for sure.

[GreggPopAsnitch]

62 win max

[LittleCriminal]

LMA and West took pay cuts. They need to learn respect

Right now they are playing like they took paycuts..

[Kawhitstorm]

Simmons with a -27. I have never disliked him, but I was more cautious than most with all the hype about him. I missed the first half of the game, and the second has had lag at moments for me, so some plays I have missed, but Reggie outplaying him is a wake up call. He's only looked good for a min or two here or there, and that is sandwiched in between a lot more minutes of sucking. His confidence is shot.

Reggie is taking the banner and running along with it.

Reggie plays w/ an irrational confidence Simmons meanwhile sulks when he makes a mistake.

[Hoops Czar]

Again, we lost 1.4 3pointers a game in Marco. We got back a healthy Patty. And added Anderson. Where's the big drop off?

Anderson is just as bad defensively and nowhere near the shooter Beli was. Zero point guard depth and slim pickens at SF after Kawhi.

[SAGirl]

Time for some cuts, and solidify the rotation, tbh
Agree. An athletic fast gunning team in OKC is waiting to welcome us to the season. We can't be dilly-dallying with the end of the bench guys.

[GreggPopAsnitch]

Anderson is just as bad defensively and nowhere near the shooter Beli was. Zero point guard depth and slim pickens at SF after Kawhi.


Ka is not just as bad on Defense than Beli, that's a reach. Anderson actually gets blocks. they both have slow feet but KA makes up for it with length.

[Chinook]

Simmons with a -27. I have never disliked him, but I was more cautious than most with all the hype about him. I missed the first half of the game, and the second has had lag at moments for me, so some plays I have missed, but Reggie outplaying him is a wake up call. He's only looked good for a min or two here or there, and that is sandwiched in between a lot more minutes of sucking. His confidence is shot.

Reggie is taking the banner and running along with it.

That's really what it is. From the interviews and articles I read about him after the summer league, the dude seemed pretty fragile. It's possible that Pop's effusive praise of him during training camp was because he wanted to build Simmons' confidence. It's not a doubly bad thing for Simmons to have confidence issues, because he's GOING to make mistakes playing the way he does. He needs to have a short memory like Manu does. I think he lacks some critical skills to be a real NBA player, but if he could even fix his mindset, he'd at least be able to have some good moments.

[LakerHater]

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[Hoops Czar]

Agree. An athletic fast gunning team in OKC is waiting to welcome us to the season. We can't be dilly-dallying with the end of the bench guys.

Um, most, if not all the guys who played are making the team.

[SpurPadre]

That's really what it is. From the interviews and articles I read about him after the summer league, the dude seemed pretty fragile. It's possible that Pop's effusive praise of him during training camp was because he wanted to build Simmons' confidence. It's not a doubly bad thing for Simmons to have confidence issues, because he's GOING to make mistakes playing the way he does. He needs to have a short memory like Manu does. I think he lacks some critical skills to be a real NBA player, but if he could even fix his mindset, he'd at least be able to have some good moments.

Marbury will welcome him with open arms in China, tbh.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

That was fucking unwatchable.

[ChumpDumper]

That was fucking unwatchable.But we all watched it.

[BillMc]

have to say I am getting nervous about that opener in OKC. Thunder looking strong...

[Chinook]

Ask Pop, I'm quoting him.

Eh, that only means so much. People have to understand that Pop doesn't tend to give real team analysis in interviews. If Pop had cared about shooting so much, he would have lobbied for a decent shooter to come into camp instead of picking up detritus like Butler and Jimmer. Or he would have signed Eddie, who was the top d-league shooter last season.

[Robz4000]

Time to blow it up?

[ElNono]

Time to blow it up?

https://media.giphy.com/media/mhXEQ2SrpjGWQ/giphy.gif

[Kawhitstorm]

have to say I am getting nervous about that opener in OKC. Thunder looking strong...

There are going to be some growing pains for a couple of weeks so I won't be surprised if they get smashed by an OKC team playing w/ a chip on their shoulders.

[FkLA]

656663296242618368

:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

That was fucking unwatchable.

It's pre-season & Pop was playing mad scientist...you shouldn't be tuning in to a pre-season game expecting to be entertained.

[Chinook]

Also, btb.


:lmao if Jimmer STILL can't get minutes.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[GreggPopAsnitch]

Why is it even a debate? We start the season 0-1 no doubt.

[random21]

Keep calm... This team will be fine... Fuckin preseason meltdown

[MAxEric]

I think the first match against Thunder will be a big blowout game....
Spurs will lose by 20 at least i think

[look_at_g_shred]

But we all watched it.
:lmao

[ace3g]

656672967670173697

[LakerHater]

dont those kids have school tomorrow?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

https://s.yimg.com/sr/imgv1/1/2b5f8bb7-deb2-3015-858e-806c3013ed4c
"You see anything here about a team option?"

[Kawhitstorm]

656672967670173697

LMA coastin'

[aal04]

have to say I am getting nervous about that opener in OKC. Thunder looking strong...

Miami Big Three. Started off cold as ice for first quarter of the season.
Cavs Full roster of pick 1s started off as if they were going for 0-82.

Both teams basically "should have" won the ring in their respective first year despite being totally laughable.

The first 2 months is going to be chaotic and knowing spurstalk we will probably hire assassins for all our starters and bench and their moms too

[TheDoctor]

656663296242618368

That sums up the game tonight.

[Old School 44]

Miami Big Three. Started off cold as ice for first quarter of the season.
Cavs Full roster of pick 1s started off as if they were going for 0-82.

Both teams basically "should have" won the ring in their respective first year despite being totally laughable.

The first 2 months is going to be chaotic and knowing spurstalk we will probably hire assassins for all our starters and bench and their moms too
The big difference is the Cavs and the Heat play in the Eastern Conference. Any Eastern conference team with LeBron pretty much has a free pass to at least the Eastern Conference Finals. There's not much room for error in the Western Conference, play poorly for a month and you can find yourself fighting for the 8th playoff spot with 4+ teams in the last week of the season.

[szkorhetz]

LMA coastin'
I love LMA, but these fucking no lift jumpers make me scretch the wall.

[Splits]

656672967670173697


dont those kids have school tomorrow?

That Pinoy is not a kid, he's 38 years old.

[Splits]

Pop rounding into regular season form:

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/teams/spurs/2015/10/21/1445398775347-pop1020.mp4-69000

[JMarkJohns]

Preseason Champs!

I'll be accepting kudos and congratulations all season from tonight's result.

Aldridge? We don't need no stinking Aldridge!

[GreggPopAsnitch]

I don't think its possible for people to politely disagree on this site.

[DenialTwist]

I love LMA, but these fucking no lift jumpers make me scretch the wall.

Um..that's also how I feel about Parker's no lift jumpers.

[spurtech09]

Keep calm... This team will be fine... Fuckin preseason meltdownI know lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Preseason Champs!

I'll be accepting kudos and congratulations all season from tonight's result.

Aldridge? We don't need no stinking Aldridge!
Summer League

[JMarkJohns]

Summer League

Preseason Championship Of Eternity (http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400830106)

[GreggPopAsnitch]

Um..that's also how I feel about Parker's no lift jumpers.
I noticed the no lift too, you think it's cause he gained weight? lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Preseason Championship Of Eternity (http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400830106)
:lol

[LakerHater]

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[Ditty]

Didn't see the game, but from what I can see from the box score and every ones comments, Parker and Simmons were horrible. Looks like it was true that Simmons was struggling in training camp. He's on the ropes of possibly getting cut, hopefully he plays well Friday against Houston.

[Kawhi 5-0]

Pop rounding into regular season form:

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/teams/spurs/2015/10/21/1445398775347-pop1020.mp4-69000

Pop...telling it like it is. He trumps Trump. Pop for President!!!

[ceperez]

What I noticed about LMA is that we're just not using him... not looking to post him, etc...

Might just be the plan during preseason

It was like he wasn't even on the court. But its preseason, it is practice and the goal is not necessarily to win the game but to work out plays.

[ceperez]

Why do you think we're going to have "big shooting issues"? I miss Marco too, but he made 1.4 3s a game last year. We basically lost him and got Anderson, but also replaced a terrible shooting big in Tiago with a big who has range in Aldridge. We also didn't have Patty most of last year, and now he looks healthy. Cojo, Baynes... none of the other departures were good shooters. So where do the "big problems" come from? It looks like a pretty similar team shooting-wise to last year.

Correct observation. It is preseason and Pop likely has asked the team to limit 3 point shooting.

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Preseason-long trend: Spurs can't shoot 3s. They're 1 for 8 tonight.

[Mnky]

I love LMA, but these fucking no lift jumpers make me scretch the wall.

He shouldn't be jumping high as his reach is already high. Getting too high in a jump shot is actually bad for consistency.

That's why guys like rose and Westbrook brick shots all the time. Shorter guys have to jump to get to that sweet point.

[Reck]

Damn that fat ass Tony played 30 minutes and only had 6 points?

Between him and Manu, they will cost the Spurs so many games.

[Bartleby]

im interested in the pants

that's not surprising.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Didn't see the game, but from what I can see from the box score and every ones comments, Parker and Simmons were horrible. Looks like it was true that Simmons was struggling in training camp. He's on the ropes of possibly getting cut, hopefully he plays well Friday against Houston.

Parker wasn't even trying. But a good sign was his mid range jumper was falling last night.

Simmons On the other hand was downright horrible. Pop has a lot of film to go over with Simmons after last night's game. Simmons isn't getting cut. He is the most athletic guy on the team and he shown he is a capable defender, better than Butler or Williams. But he made a lot of mistakes last night. Remember, it's a learning curve for this guy right now. And he has a long way to go before he becomes a standard player in the Spurs rotation at this point.

[ceperez]

Parker wasn't even trying. But a good sign was his mid range jumper was falling last night.

Simmons On the other hand was downright horrible. Pop has a lot of film to go over with Simmons after last night's game. Simmons isn't getting cut. He is the most athletic guy on the team and he shown he is a capable defender, better than Butler or Williams. But he made a lot of mistakes last night. Remember, it's a learning curve for this guy right now. And he has a long way to go before he becomes a standard player in the Spurs rotation at this point.

Spurs are already challenged athletically, absolutely no way Spurs sign a 36 year old Butler or Williams. Team is already slow to begin with!

[Old School 44]

Not the best defense, but the Suns were shooting lights out. I remember looking up at the scoreboard and they were shooting 57% from 3 in the third quarter.

[ceperez]

What you saw in this game appears to be the regular rotation with exception of Mills.

Williams really was playing in place of Mills.

What was interesting was the combinations on the floor.

Honestly, the team was terrible... I hate all the ISOs.... Leonard, West, Aldridge ... stinks!!!!

[LakerHater]

hey looking at the pants, is there 2 versions of it? porkers doesnt have cuffs at the ankles compared to turnobolis and duncan...im interested in the pants

Beli used to stick his pants in his socks, could be what theyre doin here.

[SAGirl]

What you saw in this game appears to be the regular rotation with exception of Mills.

Williams really was playing in place of Mills.

What was interesting was the combinations on the floor.

Honestly, the team was terrible... I hate all the ISOs.... Leonard, West, Aldridge ... stinks!!!!
The team needs mire quality passing from their perimeter players. I saw a couple of successful PnR in the highlights between Aldridge and Anderson. They don't even play or practice together much, but already Anderson is running some PnR with LMA better than guys in the first unit. When Aldridge is in the second unit, guys actively look for him. The first unit is out of whack. The only real passer, talented passer in that unit is Tim.

[daledondale]

that's not surprising.
:lmao

[tholdren]

Leonard, Anderson and McCallum looked like dog poop

[james evans]

Didn't see the game, but from what I can see from the box score and every ones comments, Parker and Simmons were horrible. Looks like it was true that Simmons was struggling in training camp. He's on the ropes of possibly getting cut, hopefully he plays well Friday against Houston.
it's preseason

[james evans]

Leonard, Anderson and McCallum looked like dog poop
it's preseason

[SAGirl]

Leonard, Anderson and McCallum looked like dog poop
Basically all our youngest players and the man who is supposed to take us to a title and keep us in the loop for the next few years...

:lmao

[GSH]

I'm not a fan of people using +/- to try and analyze basketball games and players. But there are times that it has some meaning. Jonathan Simmons was a staggering -29 in this game. And he played right at 20 minutes, which means that the Spurs just got the living shit kicked out of them when he was on the floor.

It's usually a combination of players, but the next worst for the Spurs was Kyle Anderson at -18 in 24 minutes. I know it's pre-season, but that's bad enough to just say, "HOLY SHIT Simmons was bad!" You can't always learn much from +/- but you really have to dig through some box scores to find other -29 nights.

[SAGirl]

I'm not a fan of people using +/- to try and analyze basketball games and players. But there are times that it has some meaning. Jonathan Simmons was a staggering -29 in this game. And he played right at 20 minutes, which means that the Spurs just got the living shit kicked out of them when he was on the floor.

It's usually a combination of players, but the next worst for the Spurs was Kyle Anderson at -18 in 24 minutes. I know it's pre-season, but that's bad enough to just say, "HOLY SHIT Simmons was bad!" You can't always learn much from +/- but you really have to dig through some box scores to find other -29 nights.
Anderson spent a lot of minutes next to Simmons though which affected his +/- like you mention, and when Simmons sat and Williams came from the bench, the team made a bit of a run and stopped the bleeding. He had his own bad plays in jumpshots he forced or missed badly, but he's not a star to overcome Simmons' bad play IMO. Simmons bad defense also caused breakdowns in the team's defense.

[tholdren]

Anderson spent a lot of minutes next to Simmons though which affected his +/- like you mention, and when Simmons sat and Williams came from the bench, the team made a bit of a run and stopped the bleeding. He had his own bad plays in jumpshots he forced or missed badly, but he's not a star to overcome Simmons' bad play IMO. Simmons bad defense also caused breakdowns in the team's defense.
Yet Chinook says Simmons defense is da bomb

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Preseason-long trend: Spurs can't shoot 3s. They're 1 for 8 tonight.

No surprise. They couldn't shoot 3s last season too. Well compared to their 2013-2014 season. The Warriors and Rockets led the league in 3s attempted and made. Hope it improves this season.