27 Wins!!!

[Buddy Mignon]

Really? Only 6 more than last year is what you losers are giving us? As I scour the net to find some optimism for my beloved team all I find is hate. Its like people are paying us back for for being so good over the years. Its like all of these sports writers are related to that girl up in Colorado. Its like the nerds are in control now.

"Jim Buss An Atrocity"
"The Lakers Have Fallen And Won't Get Up"
"What's Left Of The Lakers"
"Are Any Of The Lakers Worth Drafting"

These are all titles of articles circling around the world these days about my team. You know... I'm going to make a promise to this board. If we don't make the playoffs this season I will regulate myself to just posting only. I will not start any threads... EVER!

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You guys will do better. You guys just seem to get whatever big FA name you can get and don't look at fit - which is fine considering LA is not attractive right now.


but remember, 3 rookies are starting. You won't be good for a few years without a big signing.


31-51 and that's judging on Kobe becoming a playmaker which is looking likely.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Hubert is a great pick up though.. Need that D in the West

[Mr Bones]

They're just not a very good team. There's no conspiracy.

[Spur-Addict]

"Fallen and won't get up" :lol

[Buddy Mignon]

You guys will do better. You guys just seem to get whatever big FA name you can get and don't look at fit - which is fine considering LA is not attractive right now.


but remember, 3 rookies are starting. You won't be good for a few years without a big signing.


31-51 and that's judging on Kobe becoming a playmaker which is looking likely.

You have that record backwards. We beat your prediction even without Kobe. You do realize we were in tank mode all of last season, right? We have 2 rookies starting and one that's on record stating that he can't be guarded by the guy who got the most first place defensive player of the year votes last season.

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[Killakobe81]

I think 30-32 is reasonable, good season ... 35 would be great anything close to 40 amazing, but highly unlikely.

[Medvedenko]

I'm looking at 35 wins with this current team. If no one important gets hurt, we can over achieve and get up to 40 wins. We have talent and players like Randle and Clarkson are NBA ready from what I see.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Sorry guys, Utah had a shit ton of talent and they are just now expected to break out. Hibbert and Bass are good pieces though. But growing pains will happen.

[TheGreatYacht]

Hope you guys miss out on the Top-3 protected pick :rollin

[Ashy Larry]

I think 30-32 is reasonable ... 35 would be amazing.


yup

[Buddy Mignon]

I think the West is overrated. Our biggest obstacle will be health to Kobe. That shitty Dallas team won 50 games last season. We're better than them.

[Ashy Larry]

I think the West is overrated. Our biggest obstacle will be health to Kobe. That shitty Dallas team won 50 games last season. We're better than them.

Not last year. 35 games would be a success for this squad ……. And the West will always be tough. If it were overrated, I think we would have had 30 wins last year. We’ll see how Bryant holds up physically and how the rest of the squad holds up mentally.

[TheGreatYacht]

Duncan, Aldridge, Leonard, Green, Parker
Bogut, Green, Barnes, Thompson, Curry
Howard, Jones, Ariza, Harden, Lawson
Kanter, Ibaka, Durant, Waiters, Westbrook
Jordan, Griffin, Pierce, Reddick, Paul
Gasol, Randolph, Green, Lee, Conley
Asik, Davis, Pondexter, Gordon, Holiday
McGee, Nowitzki, Parsons, Matthews, Williams
Cauley-Stein, Cousins, Gay, Belinelli, Rondo
Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Burks, Burke
Towns Jr, Garnett, Wiggins, Martin, Rubio
...
...
Plumlee, Leonard, Aminu, Henderson, Lillard
...
Hibbert, Randle, Bryant, Clarkson, Russell

[Killakobe81]

Duncan, Aldridge, Leonard, Green, Parker
Bogut, Green, Barnes, Thompson, Curry
Howard, Jones, Ariza, Harden, Lawson
Kanter, Ibaka, Durant, Waiters, Westbrook
Jordan, Griffin, Pierce, Reddick, Paul
Gasol, Randolph, Green, Lee, Conley
Asik, Davis, Pondexter, Gordon, Holiday
McGee, Nowitzki, Parsons, Matthews, Williams
Cauley-Stein, Cousins, Gay, Belinelli, Rondo
Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Burks, Burke
Towns Jr, Garnett, Wiggins, Martin, Rubio
...
...
Plumlee, Leonard, Aminu, Henderson, Lillard
...
Hibbert, Randle, Bryant, Clarkson, Russell

I think Utah and Minny are overrated. I love Towns but I dont see w\how they are better than us if both teams are healthy. Utah is the Phx of 2013-2014. Everyone expected a "leap" after a strong finish the year before ...never happened. I am calling it right now ... when they fail to take that leap the coach will be fired or more likely, a major trade will happen.

You heard it here first and they will NOT make the playoffs this year. Without a major move.

[HarlemHeat37]

They are going to be worse than people expect IMO..Hibbert and Kobe is the most inefficient duo in the NBA, and they are playing for the worst offensive coach in the league:lol..

No perimeter defense, as well..horribly constructed team with little talent and an atrocious coach..can't even envision a scenario where they crack 30 wins..

Their bench will be decent, though..

[Killakobe81]

They are going to be worse than people expect IMO..Hibbert and Kobe is the most inefficient duo in the NBA, and they are playing for the worst offensive coach in the league:lol..

No perimeter defense, as well..horribly constructed team with little talent and an atrocious coach..can't even envision a scenario where they crack 30 wins..

Their bench will be decent, though..

So make a prediction on a win range instead of making a open comment like that ...

27?
25?

[HarlemHeat37]

So make a prediction on a win range instead of making a open comment like that ...

27?
25?

23-24 wins IMO..

[ambchang]

Why does the OP just create opportunities to welsh?

That said, I don't see how they can win more than 35 games.

Minimal outside shooting, no inside scoring, reliant on mid range jumpers, doesn't seem to be that good defensively (everybody outside of Hibbert actually looks horrible), terrible coaching, there really isn't one thing to like.

At least the Wolves got upside, what does the lakers have?

[Killakobe81]

Why does the OP just create opportunities to welsh?

That said, I don't see how they can win more than 35 games.

Minimal outside shooting, no inside scoring, reliant on mid range jumpers, doesn't seem to be that good defensively (everybody outside of Hibbert actually looks horrible), terrible coaching, there really isn't one thing to like.

At least the Wolves got upside, what does the lakers have?

They do have more upside on paper two #1 overall picks plus Lavine screams upside. Upside doesnt win in the NBA talent experience and coaching does. Lakers dont have elite talent but have more than last year and added some solid vets. Like I said if healthy 32 wins is my prediction with a 35 win ceiling 30 win floor. There is enough talent for 30 wins. you guys are underestimating some of it.

Playoffs?! LOL in my Jim Mora voice ...are you kidding me? Playoffs?!

BTW for the OP I quoted or Amb ... if healthy (meaning no major injuries to Randle/Kobe/Clarkson ...willing to make a sig, avvy or ELE bet that Lakers finish ahead of Minny.

It will suck because they will probably also keep their pick and we may not ...

[Killakobe81]

BTW I am already counting on another fluke win vs the Spurs this season. And it will be awesome the meltdown retaliation posts were epic ... and when the Spurs finish as the #2 or #3 seed by one game .... it will be even sweeter.

I know, how the mighty have fallen, blah blah blah but when you are at the bottom gotta take aim at the top dogs.

[Buddy Mignon]

Duncan, Aldridge, Leonard, Green, Parker
Bogut, Green, Barnes, Thompson, Curry
Howard, Jones, Ariza, Harden, Lawson
Kanter, Ibaka, Durant, Waiters, Westbrook
Jordan, Griffin, Pierce, Reddick, Paul
Gasol, Randolph, Green, Lee, Conley
Asik, Davis, Pondexter, Gordon, Holiday
McGee, Nowitzki, Parsons, Matthews, Williams
Cauley-Stein, Cousins, Gay, Belinelli, Rondo
Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Burks, Burke
Towns Jr, Garnett, Wiggins, Martin, Rubio
...
...
Plumlee, Leonard, Aminu, Henderson, Lillard
...
Hibbert, Randle, Bryant, Clarkson, Russell

Put us above Memphis.

[HarlemHeat37]

I would actually be a little surprised if the Lakers are any better than the 2nd worst team in the West, tbh..

[Medvedenko]

I would actually be a little surprised if the Lakers are any better than the 2nd worst team in the West, tbh..

Thanks for your BS analysis per par.

[HarlemHeat37]

Thanks for your BS analysis per par.

:lol probably hit 80% or so of my shit here if I had to guess IMO..

There is my Lakers analysis from last year:


I still can't believe there are people that believe/believed they can make the playoffs..their roster is really, really fucking bad..

There's a very solid chance that they're going to be the worst team in the West, tbh..


I still can't believe so many old-media analysts(Wilbon, etc) and fans with antiquated views/opinions on basketball actually believe the Lakers can be good this season, tbh:lmao..

On paper, they have one of the 3 worst rosters in the NBA..throw in arguably the worst coach in the league, and ya, you have the 2014-2015 Lakers:lol..

:lmao hyping 3rd string caliber players like Boozer and Lin

Vs. the analysis from the man with highlights in his hair that predicted the Lakers would have a shot at the playoffs and that Kobe was accurately ranked as a top 40 player..if I want advice on 90s White Boy hairstyles, I'll ask you, otherwise, keep browsing the forum rather than posting, tbh..

[Killakobe81]

:lol probably hit 80% or so of my shit here if I had to guess IMO..

There is my Lakers analysis from last year:





Vs. the analysis from the man with highlights in his hair that predicted the Lakers would have a shot at the playoffs and that Kobe was accurately ranked as a top 40 player..if I want advice on 90s White Boy hairstyles, I'll ask you, otherwise, keep browsing the forum rather than posting, tbh..

I was with you even BEFORE the injuries ...but my biy Amb insisted Lakers should win more. not sure how. this team is not as bad as that team HH ...

[UNT Eagles 2016]

would you honestly rather win 35 and get another shitty rookie next year?

[Will Hunting]

:lol probably hit 80% or so of my shit here if I had to guess IMO..

There is my Lakers analysis from last year:





Vs. the analysis from the man with highlights in his hair that predicted the Lakers would have a shot at the playoffs and that Kobe was accurately ranked as a top 40 player..if I want advice on 90s White Boy hairstyles, I'll ask you, otherwise, keep browsing the forum rather than posting, tbh..

:lmao Medvedenko routinely getting shat on per par

[Chucho]

Kobe is a broken down shit bag and it will be miraculous if he averages more than 16 per with 40% shooting. He will probably average 18 on 23 shots per game in a 10 game sample before he breaks agin.

the rest of this roster is 1 rookie the future is hinged on and a bunch of hot fucking garbage.

Yup, sounds like another typical new-par Lakers season. Fucking cesspool of a team that is the perfect metaphor for a cesspool of a city. Seriously, LA is one filthy shithole. Picture the dirtiest parts of San Antonio's West side....now picture that blown up times a thousand in a toxic, smoggy dirty landscape and you got LA. Just a lot more black people too. Just ugh.

[benefactor]

Damn...Harlem breaking out the vintage Harlem goods.

[Killakobe81]

would you honestly rather win 35 and get another shitty rookie next year?

Lakers got two rookies with potential wtfu taking bout?

[BD24]

Your terrible troll attempt is getting played out Naruto.

Anywhere from 30-35 sounds about right to me. They will be better than last year, but not by a whole hell of alot.

[ambchang]

They do have more upside on paper two #1 overall picks plus Lavine screams upside. Upside doesnt win in the NBA talent experience and coaching does. Lakers dont have elite talent but have more than last year and added some solid vets. Like I said if healthy 32 wins is my prediction with a 35 win ceiling 30 win floor. There is enough talent for 30 wins. you guys are underestimating some of it.

Playoffs?! LOL in my Jim Mora voice ...are you kidding me? Playoffs?!

BTW for the OP I quoted or Amb ... if healthy (meaning no major injuries to Randle/Kobe/Clarkson ...willing to make a sig, avvy or ELE bet that Lakers finish ahead of Minny.

It will suck because they will probably also keep their pick and we may not ...

Lakers got no talent, horrible coaching and the worst kinds of experience.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Lakers got two rookies with potential wtfu taking bout?
randle is horrible, dangelo will be one of those streaky good but not great players like a brandon jennings or michael redd or something

[Killakobe81]

Lakers got no talent, horrible coaching and the worst kinds of experience.

So lets bet Lakers no talent squad vs minny and their upside ...if Lakers win less avvy, sig or ele bet. Dont be a pussy back up your shit with a gentleman's bet. Harlem same offer obviously if you both win one would have to choose which prize you want ...

[Killakobe81]

Ill even take out barringmajor injury just a straight bet on win total.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

OP has his panties in a twist.

Lakers aren't good. 27 wins is low balling but they aren't eclipsing .500 mark at season's end.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Damn...Harlem breaking out the vintage Harlem goods.
And beenafaggot breaking out vintage beenafaggot

[Killakobe81]

OP has his panties in a twist.

Lakers aren't good. 27 wins is low balling but they aren't eclipsing .500 mark at season's end.

agreed anything close to 40 wins is almost a minor "miracle"

[StrengthAndHonor]

They'll do better than 21, I have them at 32 this year.

[Medvedenko]

:lol probably hit 80% or so of my shit here if I had to guess IMO..

There is my Lakers analysis from last year:
.




Vs. the analysis from the man with highlights in his hair that predicted the Lakers would have a shot at the playoffs and that Kobe was accurately ranked as a top 40 player..if I want advice on 90s White Boy hairstyles, I'll ask you, otherwise, keep browsing the forum rather than posting, tbh..


I guess your predictions took into consideration all of the injuries. Whatever, I've been on this board too long to continue posting and discussing anything of substance when it comes to bball acumen. You never had it and don't have it yet

[Mori Chu]

Shit coach, shit roster, shit "star" ... Shit team.

Lakers won't be able to rebuild until the curse of Mr. .373 goes away.

If they knew what they were doing, they would have avoided signing all those decrepit old vets and bottomed out to keep that top-3 pick. As it is, they'll probably get like the 5th-worst record and give away their pick and their future.

[Buddy Mignon]

And beenafaggot breaking out vintage beenafaggot

Is that his nickname? I missed that one. I always thought of him as midnight-treat... lol.

[Buddy Mignon]

Shit coach, shit roster, shit "star" ... Shit team.

Lakers won't be able to rebuild until the curse of Mr. .373 goes away.

If they knew what they were doing, they would have avoided signing all those decrepit old vets and bottomed out to keep that top-3 pick. As it is, they'll probably get like the 5th-worst record and give away their pick and their future.

You see that's why we have many many many titles... and you have none, 0, zilch, nada.

[Joseph Kony]

:lol narutofag really thinking the Lakers will win 35 games in the West. Your dumpster fire team and franchise will be fighting for "not last" in the conference, lucky to win 25-30 games AT BEST. you're smoking some good shit or have been on a 3 day naruto binge again with no sleep if you think that shitsquad is winning 35 games

[Buddy Mignon]

:lol narutofag really thinking the Lakers will win 35 games in the West. Your dumpster fire team and franchise will be fighting for "not last" in the conference, lucky to win 25-30 games AT BEST. you're smoking some good shit or have been on a 3 day naruto binge again with no sleep if you think that shitsquad is winning 35 games

I got us at 45-48 games.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I got us at 45-48 games.

Put down the 2016K controller.

[Killakobe81]

They'll do better than 21, I have them at 32 this year.

I said the same in another thread 35 is possible but 32 is probable.

[Killakobe81]

Just like I thought ... Pussy. Harlem or Amb let's make it interesting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5eVcXhHN9U

[BD24]

Just like I thought ... Pussy. Harlem or Amb let's make it interesting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5eVcXhHN9U
I'll take you up on your bet. Honestly they both are going to be shitty. I just think Minnesota will be a bit less shitty. I'm good with an avy or sig bet.

[Killakobe81]

I'll take you up on your bet. Honestly they both are going to be shitty. I just think Minnesota will be a bit less shitty. I'm good with an avy or sig bet.

A man with balls. Its a bet.

[BD24]

A man with balls. Its a bet.
:toast I like LA to win 30-35 and Minny to win 35-43, such a wide range for Minny because they are so young and obviously health issues. .

I think Minny has alot of good pieces. Between Wiggins, Towns, Lavine, and Dieng they have some great young talent.

A few proven vets, not stars by any means, but decent players in Martin, Rubio, and Pekovic. Then I like guys like Payne and Muhammed could step up and be decent role players off the bench.

[Buddy Mignon]

A man with balls. Its a bet.

Nigga has no balls... he's just incredibly stupid.

[BD24]

Nigga has no balls... he's just incredibly stupid.
You want to bet as well naruto? Doubtful as you don't believe the shit your selling even. Now step up to the plate or shut the fuck up and go watch your gay cartoon porn.

[ambchang]

So lets bet Lakers no talent squad vs minny and their upside ...if Lakers win less avvy, sig or ele bet. Dont be a pussy back up your shit with a gentleman's bet. Harlem same offer obviously if you both win one would have to choose which prize you want ...

You have serious comprehension issues. I said wolves have upside while the lakers have nothing and horrible anything. It doesn't mean wolves > lakers this season although I think the wolves have a chance at a better record.

[Killakobe81]

You have serious comprehension issues. I said wolves have upside while the lakers have nothing and horrible anything. It doesn't mean wolves > lakers this season although I think the wolves have a chance at a better record.

Never said you said that directly you gave a bunch of reasons why we suck and said minny has upside ...so I asked you to bet. If you want it offer still stands ...but you can puss out its up 2 you.

[Sean Cagney]

35-38 wins for this LA team.

[Mori Chu]

I think 27 wins is about right. High, if anything. Gonna be a long year for LakerFan.

[Killakobe81]

LOL, suns. I won't lie Tyson is a great "get". But your shitty-ass team aint winning shit or making the playoffs either. and IF tyson goes down ... they may win as few as games us tbh ...

[ambchang]

Never said you said that directly you gave a bunch of reasons why we suck and said minny has upside ...so I asked you to bet. If you want it offer still stands ...but you can puss out its up 2 you.

Why would I bet the lakers will have a worse record than Minny this year if I'm on the fence about it?

Hey, wanna bet how many games the Spurs will win this year? I have them at over 12 wins. You must bet under or else you are wussing out.

[Killakobe81]

Why would I bet the lakers will have a worse record than Minny this year if I'm on the fence about it?

Hey, wanna bet how many games the Spurs will win this year? I have them at over 12 wins. You must bet under or else you are wussing out.

Stupid analogy. I didnt write a long paragraph saying the Spurs have no talent etc. And 12 wins doesnt even make any sense in your example. So is it CLEAR the Lakers will win more than Minny? So clear like the spurs winning more than 12 games? If you stand behind what you wrote about the lakers and feel Minny has upside what is the big deal to make a bet? it costs you nothing except an avvy/sig change or ELE for a month ...Stand behind your analysis. Unless you were just talking out your ass ... if you are on the fence what does it hurt it costs you no money and the odds are 50/50 if you are "on the fence".

And yes I think if someone writes a paragraph on how this Lakers team sucks says that they are worse than the worst team in the NBA last year... But yet the minny gets the best player in the draft for two straight years, plus Lavine ... I dont see why this is a such big risk on your part. :rolleyes Russell and Randle are busts.

So put up or shutup or you goddman right you are a pussy.

Ok if you wont stand behind that I got the Lakers winning one game vs. the Spurs this year. Same stakes a month of avvy, ELE or sig. Lakers must win at least one game vs these well coached spurs Led by top 4 GOAT level player DPOTY and a top 3 GOAT coach.

We have a cancer, an antiquated coach and offense. Shitty metrics and two more rookie busts to add to Randle and the overrated Clarkson.

So Lakers less wins than Minny or Lakers take at least one game from Spurs. Pick one or both. you can drive me from this place for two months or Kobe bash to your heart's content on my profile for the same amount of time.

(BTW, Elfslyaer you good for a month)

[BD24]

(BTW, Elfslyaer you good for a month)
A month works for me. We can do sig or avy. Which ever you prefer tbh.

[Killakobe81]

A month works for me. We can do sig or avy. Which ever you prefer tbh.

Bet. See I appreciate you stepping up like a man does. You said about 32 for Lakers 35 for Minny no huge gap between the teams you could say you are almost on the "fence" ...but you had a take and stand behind that with a friendly wager. That's what real men do.

[BD24]

Bet. See I appreciate you stepping up like a man does. You said about 32 for Lakers 35 for Minny no huge gap between the teams you could say you are almost on the "fence" ...but you had a take and stand behind that with a friendly wager. That's what real men do.
Honestly don't know why you let AMB drag you into these arguements lol. I mean don't get me wrong, I hate Kobe and the Lakers both, think Kobe is one of the most overrated players of all time. AMB takes it to a whole new level though, spinning all sorts of stupid shit to justify arguements.

[ambchang]

Stupid analogy. I didnt write a long paragraph saying the Spurs have no talent etc. And 12 wins doesnt even make any sense in your example. So is it CLEAR the Lakers will win more than Minny? So clear like the spurs winning more than 12 games? If you stand behind what you wrote about the lakers and feel Minny has upside what is the big deal to make a bet? it costs you nothing except an avvy/sig change or ELE for a month ...Stand behind your analysis. Unless you were just talking out your ass ... if you are on the fence what does it hurt it costs you no money and the odds are 50/50 if you are "on the fence".

And yes I think if someone writes a paragraph on how this Lakers team sucks says that they are worse than the worst team in the NBA last year... But yet the minny gets the best player in the draft for two straight years, plus Lavine ... I dont see why this is a such big risk on your part. :rolleyes Russell and Randle are busts.

So put up or shutup or you goddman right you are a pussy.

Ok if you wont stand behind that I got the Lakers winning one game vs. the Spurs this year. Same stakes a month of avvy, ELE or sig. Lakers must win at least one game vs these well coached spurs Led by top 4 GOAT level player DPOTY and a top 3 GOAT coach.

We have a cancer, an antiquated coach and offense. Shitty metrics and two more rookie busts to add to Randle and the overrated Clarkson.

So Lakers less wins than Minny or Lakers take at least one game from Spurs. Pick one or both. you can drive me from this place for two months or Kobe bash to your heart's content on my profile for the same amount of time.

(BTW, Elfslyaer you good for a month)


Did I say Minny doesn't suck? When did I say that?

Minny got good players but they need development. I think Minny will likely get a better record than the lakers in 2 years or so but right now? I think they suck. That said, the lakers are in the general vicinity of them, and I can't realistically see the two worst teams in the west will both have over 30 wins. I'd say both teams will win in the mid to high 20s

Not only do you have serious comprehension issues, you have serious logical issues. Saying the lakers suck means they will have a worse record than the wolves? What kind of logic is that? It has nothing to do with anything. Which was the Spurs bet was about, you run into irrelevant conclusions from nowhere.

[Killakobe81]

Honestly don't know why you let AMB drag you into these arguements lol. I mean don't get me wrong, I hate Kobe and the Lakers both, think Kobe is one of the most overrated players of all time. AMB takes it to a whole new level though, spinning all sorts of stupid shit to justify arguements.

But I actually enjoy arguing with Amb ... especially calling him out on his bullshit. I dont even argue Kobe with him anymore. It's funny last year we were arguing the opposite as he was trying to pin the Lakers won loss record on Kobe and said we had 35-40 win talent ... when anyone could see that team was trash. Now he admits the team is trash but as of now still wont take on the Lakers on either bet. But instead is arguing semantics, comprehension etc. I find it funny ...

[Killakobe81]

Did I say Minny doesn't suck? When did I say that?

Minny got good players but they need development. I think Minny will likely get a better record than the lakers in 2 years or so but right now? I think they suck. That said, the lakers are in the general vicinity of them, and I can't realistically see the two worst teams in the west will both have over 30 wins. I'd say both teams will win in the mid to high 20s

Not only do you have serious comprehension issues, you have serious logical issues. Saying the lakers suck means they will have a worse record than the wolves? What kind of logic is that? It has nothing to do with anything. Which was the Spurs bet was about, you run into irrelevant conclusions from nowhere.

Okay. I have comprehension issues and you don't ... but yet you still did not take either bet. You said you were on the fence (that means 50/50) on who will be better ... so take the bet! Fine. You did not ask for it I threw it to you as a challenge based on your Lakers feedback.

Amb, do you only make bet with friends (oh and by now we are friends at least internet ones) you are 100% sure on? You never take bets with less than overwhelming odds in your favor?

Forget Minny...take the other bet that Spurs will sweep the horrible Lakers ..if not then ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5eVcXhHN9U

[Killakobe81]

Why does the OP just create opportunities to welsh?

That said, I don't see how they can win more than 35 games.

Minimal outside shooting, no inside scoring, reliant on mid range jumpers, doesn't seem to be that good defensively (everybody outside of Hibbert actually looks horrible), terrible coaching, there really isn't one thing to like.

At least the Wolves got upside, what does the lakers have?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5eVcXhHN9U

[BD24]

But I actually enjoy arguing with Amb ... especially calling him out on his bullshit. I dont even argue Kobe with him anymore. It's funny last year we were arguing the opposite as he was trying to pin the Lakers won loss record on Kobe and said we had 35-40 win talent ... when anyone could see that team was trash. Now he admits the team is trash but as of now still wont take on the Lakers on either bet. But instead is arguing semantics, comprehension etc. I find it funny ...
Yea I don't think Kobe moves the needle either way on the Lakers win loss tbh, pretty shit team. He is probably going to hinder the growth of some of their young players though.

[ambchang]

Honestly don't know why you let AMB drag you into these arguements lol. I mean don't get me wrong, I hate Kobe and the Lakers both, think Kobe is one of the most overrated players of all time. AMB takes it to a whole new level though, spinning all sorts of stupid shit to justify arguements.

What stupid shit? Care to elaborate?

[ambchang]

But I actually enjoy arguing with Amb ... especially calling him out on his bullshit. I dont even argue Kobe with him anymore. It's funny last year we were arguing the opposite as he was trying to pin the Lakers won loss record on Kobe and said we had 35-40 win talent ... when anyone could see that team was trash. Now he admits the team is trash but as of now still wont take on the Lakers on either bet. But instead is arguing semantics, comprehension etc. I find it funny ...

So wait, last year I said the lakers were good enough to win 35 games. This year, they lost Lin, boozer, Davis and replaced them with rookies and you said they are 32 win team, i said they are bad, maybe mid to high twenties (pretty close assessment) and you are saying I'm not willing to take a bet that they will have more wins than the wolves? What kind of crap logic is that?

First off, my assessment of them last year and this is similar 35 vs 28 or so wins with essentially comparable players, so I'm actually on track.

Second, you had them at 32 which is somewhere between what I had them last year and his year with mostly lateral moves of the roster. So I don't get why my predictions Are such sins against nature.


Third, I never said the wolves had a great roster or coaching or anything, I just said they have a future. So I don't know what we are supposed to be betting.

[ambchang]

Okay. I have comprehension issues and you don't ... but yet you still did not take either bet. You said you were on the fence (that means 50/50) on who will be better ... so take the bet! Fine. You did not ask for it I threw it to you as a challenge based on your Lakers feedback.

Amb, do you only make bet with friends (oh and by now we are friends at least internet ones) you are 100% sure on? You never take bets with less than overwhelming odds in your favor?

Forget Minny...take the other bet that Spurs will sweep the horrible Lakers ..if not then ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5eVcXhHN9U


Another horrible jump in logic. Just because the lakers are bad and the Spurs are clearly better doesn't mean that the Spurs will sweep. These are pro teams and things happen, especially on a game to game basis. That's why they play seven game series to determine the better team instead of one offs.

I can see the lakers will be one of the bottom four teams in the west (people are really over estimating the Blazers right now, they have potential to be the worst in the west) and Phoenix can end up being pretty bad if a few things fall apart for them. Wolves and lakers are terrible now.

Besides, I don't bet. I am a mathematician and unless I have great odds at winning then it is not worth it to bet, especially in one offs because of randomness of future events. Betting without full on odds isn't chicken, it's just the smart thing to do.

Oh wait, did you call me pussy? You just lost the argument it seems

[ambchang]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5eVcXhHN9U

So what does the lakers have?

Or are you saying Russell randle and clarkson has more upside than towns Wiggins and lavine?

[Killakobe81]

Another horrible jump in logic. Just because the lakers are bad and the Spurs are clearly better doesn't mean that the Spurs will sweep. These are pro teams and things happen, especially on a game to game basis. That's why they play seven game series to determine the better team instead of one offs.

I can see the lakers will be one of the bottom four teams in the west (people are really over estimating the Blazers right now, they have potential to be the worst in the west) and Phoenix can end up being pretty bad if a few things fall apart for them. Wolves and lakers are terrible now.

Besides, I don't bet. I am a mathematician and unless I have great odds at winning then it is not worth it to bet, especially in one offs because of randomness of future events. Betting without full on odds isn't chicken, it's just the smart thing to do.

Oh wait, did you call me pussy? You just lost the argument it seems

I lost how cuz you say so? Didnt you bitch at someone else that declared himself victor in another one of your never ending battles? And you may be great at math but your excuses still smell like pussy ...but ill leave you be.

Good luck on the season Amb. But before i go Full Force has a message for you ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs39_dGIlWo

[ambchang]

Never said you said that directly you gave a bunch of reasons why we suck and said minny has upside ...so I asked you to bet. If you want it offer still stands ...but you can puss out its up 2 you.

You said a bunch of things abou Russell having potential ...so I'm asking you for a bet that he will be MVP this year. If you want it offer still stands ...but you can puss out its up 2 you.

[ambchang]

I lost how cuz you say so? Didnt you bitch at someone else that declared himself victor in another one of your never ending battles? And you may be great at math but your excuses still smell like pussy ...but ill leave you be.

Good luck on the season Amb. But before i go Full Force has a message for you ...


https://youtu.be/xs39_dGIlWo

You lost the battle by applying your own rules. Did you hit your head lately? You seem to become forgetful and illogical.

[Killakobe81]

You lost the battle by applying your own rules. Did you hit your head lately? You seem to become forgetful and illogical.

Great comeback!!! Seriously if last nights drubbing couldnt convince you to make a bet you are on the fence on ...then pussy ...still stands. Why dont you crunch the numbers in that big brain of yours and take the bet?

But you won't cuz I smell something ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs39_dGIlWo

[Killakobe81]

You said a bunch of things abou Russell having potential ...so I'm asking you for a bet that he will be MVP this year. If you want it offer still stands ...but you can puss out its up 2 you.

huh? That doesn't make any sense. how many rookies have won MVP? But again, I never said I was "on the fence" that Russell was MVP. You say I have faulty logic but your comebacks and examples are pretty moronic tbh and beneath you. You keep using ridiculous scenarios that dont even apply. We were talking Wolves vs. Lakers and later spurs vs. Lakers. I asked you to back up your analysis with a wager and you declined.

But despite all of this we are still cool ... I never let pussy get in the way of friendship.

[ambchang]

Great comeback!!! Seriously if last nights drubbing couldnt convince you to make a bet you are on the fence on ...then pussy ...still stands. Why dont you crunch the numbers in that big brain of yours and take the bet?

But you won't cuz I smell something ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs39_dGIlWo

Did my math and it's not worth it. Both are horrible teams just that ones for great upside and another doesn't.


huh? That doesn't make any sense. how many rookies have won MVP? But again, I never said I was "on the fence" that Russell was MVP. You say I have faulty logic but your comebacks and examples are pretty moronic tbh and beneath you. You keep using ridiculous scenarios that dont even apply. We were talking Wolves vs. Lakers and later spurs vs. Lakers. I asked you to back up your analysis with a wager and you declined.

But despite all of this we are still cool ... I never let pussy get in the way of friendship.

Again you are getting concepts confused. My examples are to show how illogical you were using extreme circumstances. How you would take unrelated concepts and lead to irrelevant conclusions.

At this point, I don't even know why I was challenged for a bet, I never said lakers < wolves, so why would I take that bet on? If I said so and you challenged me to a bet then I backed off, then I can understand the pussy jabs, but I am not backing out of anything so how is that a pussy move? It's like someone come to you and say flip a coin on $1000. You didn't think it was worth it so you backed off, does that make you a pussy?

And what analysis did I do that I have to back up with a wager? The wolves have upside is an observation not an analysis, the Spurs are a much better team than the lakers and that's pretty much a given. If you want to bet whether the Spurs or lakers have a better record then I'm all for it. If you want me to bet who will be better in two years wolves or lakers then I'm all for it.

[Killakobe81]

Why does the OP just create opportunities to welsh?

That said, I don't see how they can win more than 35 games.

Minimal outside shooting, no inside scoring, reliant on mid range jumpers, doesn't seem to be that good defensively (everybody outside of Hibbert actually looks horrible), terrible coaching, there really isn't one thing to like.

At least the Wolves got upside, what does the lakers have?

That post alone should make you consider either bet ... did you miss-speak? did you exaggerate? Since you like analogies. IF a gambling insider told you there are reports from practice that this year's UCLA team was horrible at defense outside of their center, takes to many mid range jumpers horrible from 3 horrible in the paint terrible coaching but USC had 2 freshman and a redshirt soph with tremendous upside who would you bet on? In pre-season, both are equally ranked at the bottom of the conference. They play each other game one ... who do you place your money on?

[ambchang]

That post alone should make you consider either bet ... did you miss-speak? did you exaggerate? Since you like analogies. IF a gambling insider told you there are reports from practice that this year's UCLA team was horrible at defense outside of their center, takes to many mid range jumpers horrible from 3 horrible in the paint terrible coaching but USC had 2 freshman and a redshirt soph with tremendous upside who would you bet on? In pre-season, both are equally ranked at the bottom of the conference. They play each other game one ... who do you place your money on?

You are trying to pull two different concepts into the same conversation. And you've been trying to do it for weeks.

In you analogy, the answer is I don't know because those things do not relate. It's not like I have to choose one or the other. Why am I forced to choose one?

The lakers are what I described, what was said that wasn't generally the consensus on them?

[Killakobe81]

You are trying to pull two different concepts into the same conversation. And you've been trying to do it for weeks.

In you analogy, the answer is I don't know because those things do not relate. It's not like I have to choose one or the other. Why am I forced to choose one?

The lakers are what I described, what was said that wasn't generally the consensus on them?

Dude this thread died already ...are you feeling lonely or bored?

[ambchang]

Dude this thread died already ...are you feeling lonely or bored?

I replied it died, you replied and it's all cool?

[Spurtacular]

Really? Only 6 more than last year is what you losers are giving us? As I scour the net to find some optimism for my beloved team all I find is hate. Its like people are paying us back for for being so good over the years. Its like all of these sports writers are related to that girl up in Colorado. Its like the nerds are in control now.

"Jim Buss An Atrocity"
"The Lakers Have Fallen And Won't Get Up"
"What's Left Of The Lakers"
"Are Any Of The Lakers Worth Drafting"

These are all titles of articles circling around the world these days about my team. You know... I'm going to make a promise to this board. If we don't make the playoffs this season I will regulate myself to just posting only. I will not start any threads... EVER!

Your team sucks. Why are you in total denial? This is nothing new.

[Killakobe81]

I replied it died, you replied and it's all cool?

You didnt answer my question but your response is telling ...

[ambchang]

You didnt answer my question but your response is telling ...

Because your question was wrongly phrased. You only gave me two choices and neither were the answers.

[HarlemHeat37]

Thanks for your BS analysis per par.

:lmao 35 wins, this trash team :lmao

[Medvedenko]

:lmao 35 wins, this trash team :lmao

So if they would have won this game, you'd concede the 35 wins? You're an idiot.

Regardless, this team is in transition. Enjoy your Spurs and another failure to win a ring this year.

[BD24]

I got us at 45-48 games.
:lolNaruto Faggot:lol
:downspin:

[Arcadian]

I think the West is overrated. Our biggest obstacle will be health to Kobe. That shitty Dallas team won 50 games last season. We're better than them.

Lube up your booty hole. It's a gonna need it this season.

[Darth_Pelican]

Really? Only 6 more than last year is what you losers are giving us? As I scour the net to find some optimism for my beloved team all I find is hate. Its like people are paying us back for for being so good over the years. Its like all of these sports writers are related to that girl up in Colorado. Its like the nerds are in control now.

"Jim Buss An Atrocity"
"The Lakers Have Fallen And Won't Get Up"
"What's Left Of The Lakers"
"Are Any Of The Lakers Worth Drafting"

These are all titles of articles circling around the world these days about my team. You know... I'm going to make a promise to this board. If we don't make the playoffs this season I will regulate myself to just posting only. I will not start any threads... EVER!

Thanks

[ambchang]

So if they would have won this game, you'd concede the 35 wins? You're an idiot.

Regardless, this team is in transition. Enjoy your Spurs and another failure to win a ring this year.

Transition to what?

[HarlemHeat37]

They are going to be worse than people expect IMO..Hibbert and Kobe is the most inefficient duo in the NBA, and they are playing for the worst offensive coach in the league:lol..

No perimeter defense, as well..horribly constructed team with little talent and an atrocious coach..can't even envision a scenario where they crack 30 wins..

Their bench will be decent, though..


I would actually be a little surprised if the Lakers are any better than the 2nd worst team in the West, tbh..

Accurate analysis, yet they are somehow even worse than I thought :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Lakers fans predicting 30 wins is fine, everybody can be a homer sometimes, but non-Lakers fans that thought they could win 30 wins is just strange IMO..this team has virtually no impact players on either side of the ball..

[Splits]

Lakers fans predicting 30 wins is fine, everybody can be a homer sometimes, but non-Lakers fans that thought they could win 30 wins is just strange IMO..this team has virtually no impact players on either side of the ball..

And their FO as well... http://deadspin.com/lakers-baffled-that-free-agents-dont-like-their-bad-bas-1715364369

[spursistan]

Yep.. they will be struggling to win 20 games as fellow bottom dwellers look to have a pulse against all pre-season expectations (Minny, Denver, Portland..)

[spurraider21]

2-11

last in the west

[Reck]

You guys will do better. You guys just seem to get whatever big FA name you can get and don't look at fit - which is fine considering LA is not attractive right now.


Hubert is a great pick up though.. Need that D in the West

Taking care of your cats is your forte. Stick to that.

[midnightpulp]

6th seed! :lmao

[nowitzkikopf]

Really? Only 6 more than last year is what you losers are giving us? As I scour the net to find some optimism for my beloved team all I find is hate. Its like people are paying us back for for being so good over the years. Its like all of these sports writers are related to that girl up in Colorado. Its like the nerds are in control now.

"Jim Buss An Atrocity"
"The Lakers Have Fallen And Won't Get Up"
"What's Left Of The Lakers"
"Are Any Of The Lakers Worth Drafting"

These are all titles of articles circling around the world these days about my team. You know... I'm going to make a promise to this board. If we don't make the playoffs this season I will regulate myself to just posting only. I will not start any threads... EVER!

holy shit- this is too good to be true. i hope you are a man/woman of your word

[Killakobe81]

well the tank is in Full effect. Kobe wow just wow. Those 10 early points was fool's gold. he just keeps shooting & shooting and we keep losing and losing. We are like the Rox with McHale at the "helm" but with less proven talent. Shitty coaching, shitty star play.

I say roll out Black/Randle/Nance/russell/Clarkson ...spacing be damned. If we gonna lose at least let the young guys lose and develop together.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Taking care of your cats is your forte. Stick to that.

How can one be so irrelevant with 17k posts?

At least I had balls to make a prediction.

[spurraider21]

How can one be so irrelevant with 17k posts?

At least I had balls to make a prediction.
the hairballs your cats cough up dont count, tbh

[Splits]

I'm looking at 35 wins with this current team. If no one important gets hurt, we can over achieve and get up to 40 wins. We have talent and players like Randle and Clarkson are NBA ready from what I see.


I would actually be a little surprised if the Lakers are any better than the 2nd worst team in the West, tbh..


Thanks for your BS analysis per par.


:lol probably hit 80% or so of my shit here if I had to guess IMO..

There is my Lakers analysis from last year:


Vs. the analysis from the man with highlights in his hair that predicted the Lakers would have a shot at the playoffs and that Kobe was accurately ranked as a top 40 player..if I want advice on 90s White Boy hairstyles, I'll ask you, otherwise, keep browsing the forum rather than posting, tbh..

:lmao HH landing truth haymakers on the board's only Pre-Pau Laker fan

[Silver&Black]

:lol-7 vs. the Western Conference this year

[spurraider21]

:lol-7 vs. the Western Conference this year
2-11 vs the NBA :lol

[Silver&Black]

That too...

:lol Lakers have played 13 games....and are 12 games out of 1st.

[Medvedenko]

Pile it on.....

[midnightpulp]

You have that record backwards. We beat your prediction even without Kobe. You do realize we were in tank mode all of last season, right? We have 2 rookies starting and one that's on record stating that he can't be guarded by the guy who got the most first place defensive player of the year votes last season.

8690Z0_jfb4

:lmao

[Silver&Black]

I got us at 45-48 games.

:rollin

[Buddy Mignon]

Really? Only 6 more than last year is what you losers are giving us? As I scour the net to find some optimism for my beloved team all I find is hate. Its like people are paying us back for for being so good over the years. Its like all of these sports writers are related to that girl up in Colorado. Its like the nerds are in control now.

"Jim Buss An Atrocity"
"The Lakers Have Fallen And Won't Get Up"
"What's Left Of The Lakers"
"Are Any Of The Lakers Worth Drafting"

These are all titles of articles circling around the world these days about my team. You know... I'm going to make a promise to this board. If we don't make the playoffs this season I will regulate myself to just posting only. I will not start any threads... EVER!


That is not happening... and it doesn't mean I'm not a man of my word... it just ain't happening.

[midnightpulp]

That is not happening... and it doesn't mean I'm not a man of my word... it just ain't happening.

You mean you think the Lakers will still make the playoffs?

I also don't mind you welching. We like when your threads backfire.

And

:lmao 6th seed

[BD24]

Good bump. Are all Lakers fans welchers? At least Killa will probably be a man of his word when he loses the bet to me.

[Reck]

I'm going to make a promise to this board. If we don't make the playoffs this season I will regulate myself to just posting only. I will not start any threads... EVER!

All packed and ready, faggot? :lmao

[Reck]

27 Was being overly gracious. :lmao :lmao

[Robz4000]

:lmao

[benefactor]

:lol

[Splits]

Really? Only 6 more than last year is what you losers are giving us? As I scour the net to find some optimism for my beloved team all I find is hate. Its like people are paying us back for for being so good over the years. Its like all of these sports writers are related to that girl up in Colorado. Its like the nerds are in control now.

"Jim Buss An Atrocity"
"The Lakers Have Fallen And Won't Get Up"
"What's Left Of The Lakers"
"Are Any Of The Lakers Worth Drafting"

These are all titles of articles circling around the world these days about my team. You know... I'm going to make a promise to this board. If we don't make the playoffs this season I will regulate myself to just posting only. I will not start any threads... EVER!

:lmao Every one of those article titles were accurate

[Darth_Pelican]

http://i.imgur.com/6UP6OAd.png

[Splits]

:lol on pace for 16-17

:lol http://i.imgur.com/HtD1Cbj.png

[spurraider21]

:lmao thinking they'd get 27 wins
:lmao "we don't be sneaking"
:lmao in the last 3 seasons COMBINED the lakers have 64 wins
:lmao the spurs have 65 wins this season

[BD24]

solid bump :toast
I'm assuming Naruot will welch on this. I wonder if there is any Naruto episodes about welchers.

[Splits]

:lmao in the last 3 seasons COMBINED the lakers have 64 wins
:lmao the spurs have 65 wins this season

That's my shit, get... errrr, continue to use it without attribution :lmao

L:lolkers

[Silver&Black]

You know... I'm going to make a promise to this board. If we don't make the playoffs this season I will regulate myself to just posting only. I will not start any threads... EVER!

:hat

[manufan10]

Stop making threads, you gay cartoon watching motherfucker.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao Cucky Mignon

[Silver&Black]

I would actually be a little surprised if the Lakers are any better than the 2nd worst team in the West, tbh..


Thanks for your BS analysis per par.

:lol Med

And I think HH will admit that he really didn't go out on a limb with that prediction.

[HarlemHeat37]

Lakers under 30 wins was arguably the easiest bet I have ever made, tbh..

[ElNono]

Lakers under 30 wins was arguably the easiest bet I have ever made, tbh..

what do you see for them this season, tbh? I think the West is a bit weaker overall..