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tbdog
07-11-2021, 10:08 PM
NBA is increasingly about individual play, 3 point shooting & guard play. Whereas international play is more team based and a big man's game where physicality, rebounding & interior scoring is more needed. USA likely will struggle at times as a result. They don't have enough big men or physical players on this roster.

It's sad that once in the 90s, the nba was far more physical and took nba players time to adjust. It's now the opposite.

MultiTroll
07-12-2021, 12:10 AM
I thought that's why Durbeta was there, to set the tone

https://youtu.be/JWlAxHYLt5c?t=5

Russ
07-12-2021, 07:17 AM
Headed to LV today to see US-Australia and US-Argentina.

My suggestion for this US team is to press from the opening tip and throw players at the opposition in waves. 3-4 minutes each wave.

Pop tells the guys their only objective is expend energy on defense -- just get tired and don't worry about anything else.

Press em in the backcourt and see if they can go over the top. Try to keep em in their own end and get easy buckets.

Use your roster advantage to intimidate the other side.

The way it is now plays right into the the opposition's hands -- a gentlemanly 3-point shooting contest. With the short game and short porch you can't be assured you'll consistently win those.

Gotta shake things up and reestablish that fear of the US roster.

cd98
07-12-2021, 08:24 AM
I know the loss was an embarrassment, but I'm not convinced it's anything but an outlier. This team has barely been together and they just finished a grueling NBA season. A lot of those guys were in rigorous playoff series like three weeks ago. They have probably not really practiced together in a year and probably for not very long. Basically, they are relying on talent of continuity. That allows them to get beat in a game like this. But once they get a little bit of continuity, they will likely be killing it. I still don't think this is near their best roster, but they still have a ton of firepower. They will play much better in the next game.

Dex
07-12-2021, 08:52 AM
Headed to LV today to see US-Australia and US-Argentina.

My suggestion for this US team is to press from the opening tip and throw players at the opposition in waves. 3-4 minutes each wave.

Pop tells the guys their only objective is expend energy on defense -- just get tired and don't worry about anything else.

Press em in the backcourt and see if they can go over the top. Try to keep em in their own end and get easy buckets.

Use your roster advantage to intimidate the other side.

The way it is now plays right into the the opposition's hands -- a gentlemanly 3-point shooting contest. With the short game and short porch you can't be assured you'll consistently win those.

Gotta shake things up and reestablish that fear of the US roster.

I agree 100%. The best way for the US team to match the physicality of FIBA basketball is to play bully ball themselves...hound the ball, get steals, generate transition opportunities, and just run it down their throats. That PLUS their talent advantage should open up some easy wins.

That said...I'm not sure if the guys are going to be willing to push it that hard in the exhibition games. It's human nature to let down a bit for a match that doesn't really matter, and they all want to make sure they make it to the Olympics and through the tournament without getting injured...which is why it looked like they were just going through the motions against Nigeria.

It's up to Pop and the coaching staff to decide when they need to flip the switch...and waiting until the games count could lead to another upset if the switch doesn't work.

John B
07-12-2021, 11:53 AM
It's a wake up call not to take these teams lightly or they will get embarrassed

John B
07-12-2021, 12:57 PM
Is this the final roster? I'm not so impressed. Where is Curry, Ja Morant, Trae, Zion, Kyrie, PG13, Harden? I understand some players are banged-up, but Kevin Love??



Player
NBA team


Bam Adebayo
Miami Heat


Bradley Beal
Washington Wizards


Devin Booker
Phoenix Suns


Kevin Durant
Brooklyn Nets


Jerami Grant
Detroit Pistons


Draymond Green
Golden State Warriors


Jrue Holiday
Milwaukee Bucks


Zach LaVine
Chicago Bulls


Damian Lillard
Portland Trail Blazers


Kevin Love
Cleveland Cavaliers


Khris Middleton
Milwaukee Bucks


Jayson Tatum
Boston Celtics

SpursDynasty85
07-12-2021, 01:41 PM
Is this the final roster? I'm not so impressed. Where is Curry, Ja Morant, Trae, Zion, Kyrie, PG13, Harden? I understand some players are banged-up, but Kevin Love??



Player
NBA team


Bam Adebayo
Miami Heat


Bradley Beal
Washington Wizards


Devin Booker
Phoenix Suns


Kevin Durant
Brooklyn Nets


Jerami Grant
Detroit Pistons


Draymond Green
Golden State Warriors


Jrue Holiday
Milwaukee Bucks


Zach LaVine
Chicago Bulls


Damian Lillard
Portland Trail Blazers


Kevin Love
Cleveland Cavaliers


Khris Middleton
Milwaukee Bucks


Jayson Tatum
Boston Celtics




Kevin Love could be a great asset around top talent. Versatile post up, 3-point threat, with great passing ability (especially in the fast break). Probably a good counter to Draymond plus veteran experience.

Dex
07-12-2021, 01:57 PM
Is this the final roster? I'm not so impressed. Where is Curry, Ja Morant, Trae, Zion, Kyrie, PG13, Harden? I understand some players are banged-up, but Kevin Love??



Player
NBA team


Bam Adebayo
Miami Heat


Bradley Beal
Washington Wizards


Devin Booker
Phoenix Suns


Kevin Durant
Brooklyn Nets


Jerami Grant
Detroit Pistons


Draymond Green
Golden State Warriors


Jrue Holiday
Milwaukee Bucks


Zach LaVine
Chicago Bulls


Damian Lillard
Portland Trail Blazers


Kevin Love
Cleveland Cavaliers


Khris Middleton
Milwaukee Bucks


Jayson Tatum
Boston Celtics



A lot of guys bailed because they are banged up (Curry, Kyrie, Harden, Zion, Kawhi) or just probably wanted a break after the bubble+short offseason+condensed season and playoffs. Or they are just babies like LeBron and would rather take a vacation and promote their stupid movie instead of helping the USA win gold.

The Kevin Love choice still boggles my mind...seemed like a charity pick based on his "previous experience". If Bam and Love are the best centers the USA can come up with, then USA basketball is in a sad state.

Also, Middleton and Holiday and Booker won't even join the team for another couple weeks and are going to still be worn down from playing in the Finals.

But yeah, I said it before. This team is very top-heavy and gets much weaker at the bottom end, and is built much like the 2004 team...a bunch of athletic wings and forwards who are good scorers but don't play well with others. No truly gifted point guard or playmakers, and no one to really lean on if and when the going gets tough other than maybe Durant. Not nearly as talented as the 2012 or 2016 teams from top-to-bottom.

GAustex
07-12-2021, 04:29 PM
Seems like they can be had by someone who can "go hard in the paint".

Russ
07-12-2021, 04:53 PM
I'm sitting center court, four rows up. Scola cut his hair. He looks like a different human being. Leningrad Marxist to Orange County Republican .

RC_Drunkford
07-12-2021, 06:47 PM
Flopovich in full effect tbh. Exactly what I expected

Russ
07-12-2021, 06:47 PM
I swear there's some guy who looks like Giddey warming up.

Budkin
07-12-2021, 07:09 PM
Will FIBA Patty go in raw on Pop tonight?

ace3g
07-12-2021, 07:20 PM
Keldon just hit a 3

daslicer
07-12-2021, 07:22 PM
Keldon looks good in this game.

Degoat
07-12-2021, 07:26 PM
Keldon looks huge out there lol

slick'81
07-12-2021, 07:31 PM
Lillard looking much better soo far. Lets go boys! Put a hurting on dem aussies

ace3g
07-12-2021, 07:35 PM
Keldon just bodied Patty for the runner.

ace3g
07-12-2021, 07:37 PM
https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1414745480702185476

Degoat
07-12-2021, 07:39 PM
Tatum acting like he’s Kobe out there chunking a bunch lmao

ace3g
07-12-2021, 07:44 PM
boxscore/livestats

https://www.usab.com/news-events/live-stats/2021/mnt/7-12-21-usa-vs-aus-box.aspx

ace3g
07-12-2021, 07:44 PM
https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1414745887277043714

slick'81
07-12-2021, 07:49 PM
https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1414745887277043714


Ex-teammate:lol

pop unleashing his secret weapon-KJ

Dejounte
07-12-2021, 07:55 PM
Great experience for Keldon. Rising star, baby

GAustex
07-12-2021, 08:23 PM
Them Boomers

Dejounte
07-12-2021, 08:26 PM
Keldon playing really good big man defense

Uriel
07-12-2021, 08:30 PM
Really happy Keldon is getting such a great experience. Wish Lonnie, Derrick, Dejounte could've been there too.

slick'81
07-12-2021, 08:37 PM
draymond green doing shit as usual

team usa going to have to come from behind yet again

Uriel
07-12-2021, 08:38 PM
Patty is so elite in international competition. If he consistently played like that in the NBA, he'd be an all-star.

slick'81
07-12-2021, 08:40 PM
Hope baynes is ok after that early exit

GAustex
07-12-2021, 08:41 PM
Draymond is the key
Screener and passer tough guy

Dejounte
07-12-2021, 08:41 PM
Patty taking it to Kevin Durant :lmao :lmao

sign Patty to the max

slick'81
07-12-2021, 08:41 PM
Fiba patty baaaby!

hopefully patty fools another team in taking him the fck outta sa

Russ
07-12-2021, 08:42 PM
This is like basketball heaven. The best players in the world in a pickup game and I'm courtside.

Uriel
07-12-2021, 08:42 PM
Watching Patty vs. Durant is giving me nightmarish flashbacks.

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/72/60/21/15402075/3/1200x0.jpg

GAustex
07-12-2021, 08:43 PM
Tatum standing around with his thumb in his butt.
If that was Lonnie Poop would go off

Uriel
07-12-2021, 08:43 PM
But this time, Patty's winning :lol

slick'81
07-12-2021, 08:44 PM
Patty going jordan on dem usa scrubs

Uriel
07-12-2021, 08:44 PM
Patty taking it to Kevin Durant :lmao :lmao

sign Patty to the max
Not good he's doing this right in front of Pop, who actually has the authority to make that decision :(

Dejounte
07-12-2021, 08:44 PM
Tatum standing around with his thumb in his butt.
If that was Lonnie Poop would go off

that was fucking terrible. This game and the last is really exposing players who don’t know how to play within a team concept

TheGreatYacht
07-12-2021, 08:46 PM
Popofraud getting flamed all over twitter and by the national media. I love it. :lmao

Dejounte
07-12-2021, 08:46 PM
Tatum let his man score on him again. Send this guy home. Let Keldon play

Uriel
07-12-2021, 08:48 PM
Popofraud getting flamed all over twitter and by the national media. I love it. :lmao
To be fair, he's not the one missing all those wide open 3's.

Uriel
07-12-2021, 08:49 PM
Sloppy late game execution, wow.

slick'81
07-12-2021, 08:49 PM
Losing is becoming a trend fast for usa basketball

LeBowen
07-12-2021, 08:50 PM
CIA Pop raising Patty's value...so he can give him another 50.

slick'81
07-12-2021, 08:51 PM
Mills,ingles,and thybulle ftw!

GAustex
07-12-2021, 08:51 PM
OK Boomers!

slick'81
07-12-2021, 08:52 PM
Pop really going to retire if these horrific performances continue!?

GAustex
07-12-2021, 08:52 PM
Is the ship sinking?

cd98
07-12-2021, 08:53 PM
Well I'm not crazy about Pop, but coaches can't make those guys not turn the ball over and miss shots badly.

SayTown
07-12-2021, 08:53 PM
Keys Great Grandpa!

slick'81
07-12-2021, 08:53 PM
Is the ship sinking?

Pop will kiss pattys ass on the podium after this L

Dverde
07-12-2021, 08:53 PM
Yikes…pop is a really bad coach for this team.

Mugen
07-12-2021, 08:54 PM
:lmao the whole world can finally realize the absolute garbage coach that the old man has become. What a joke.

Uriel
07-12-2021, 08:54 PM
Gotta love seeing Pop smile after a loss :lmao

GAustex
07-12-2021, 08:54 PM
Teamwork and tough defense appears to be USA team kryptonite

slick'81
07-12-2021, 08:54 PM
USA0-2 start in '21

Mugen
07-12-2021, 08:54 PM
Yikes…pop is a really bad coach for this team.

Pop is a terrible coach for any professional basketball team since 2015 tbh :lol

slick'81
07-12-2021, 08:55 PM
Teamwork and tough defense appears to be USA team kryptonite


20-21 spurs tbh

Mugen
07-12-2021, 08:57 PM
-Kawhi/Dennis eating his old man lunch
-Missing the playoffs two years in a row
-Literally zero top assistants want to coach under him
-Almost all of his assistants jumping ship as soon as they can

And now add being absolutely embarrassed on a global level.....

And some of you still want this old man coaching a bunch of 20 somethings for the next few years, jesus f'n christ :lmao

paperboy77
07-12-2021, 08:57 PM
Popofraud getting flamed all over twitter and by the national media. I love it. :lmao

Yeah but you still have those fools on Twitter making excuses.

Budkin
07-12-2021, 08:58 PM
Will FIBA Patty go in raw on Pop tonight?

Yep!

Robz4000
07-12-2021, 08:58 PM
-Kawhi/Dennis eating his old man lunch
-Missing the playoffs two years in a row
-Literally zero top assistants want to coach under him
-Almost all of his assistants jumping ship as soon as they can

And now add being absolutely embarrassed on a global level.....

And some of you still want this old man coaching a bunch of 20 somethings for the next few years, jesus f'n christ :lmao

:lmao

GAustex
07-12-2021, 08:58 PM
Rolling with Forbes
Letting Morris steal his lunch money
And for goodness sake signing Carroll who can’t run or jump

John B
07-12-2021, 08:59 PM
I think we can S&T FIBA Patty we could get a high lottery pick :lol:lol

slick'81
07-12-2021, 09:00 PM
Pop returning along with mills,and derozan resigning would be the ultimate slap in the face:lol

John B
07-12-2021, 09:02 PM
Metu wasn’t bad as well not in Spurs jersey tbh

GAustex
07-12-2021, 09:03 PM
Pop sucks without Duncan

slick'81
07-12-2021, 09:03 PM
These games dont count but god fckn damn this is sad

slick'81
07-12-2021, 09:04 PM
Pop sucks without Duncan

and tony,manu,robinson etc

Mugen
07-12-2021, 09:04 PM
Pop returning along with mills,and derozan resigning would be the ultimate slap in the face:lol

I mean Pop is literally the biggest and most obvious issue. He literally coaching some of the best players in the world and he's making USA look like a 3rd world country. :lol

It's not even funny how much modern basketball has passed him by at this point tbh

Uriel
07-12-2021, 09:04 PM
In other news, Keldon played really well. Great sign for us :tu

slick'81
07-12-2021, 09:07 PM
In other news, Keldon played really well. Great sign for us :tu

bright spots remain- white,murray,vassell,kj,12th pick. Even pop can fck that up right?

Mugen
07-12-2021, 09:07 PM
Why didn't Team USA just send Jim Fucking Boylen to coach the team? I guarantee his dumbass would have beaten Nigeria :lol

daslicer
07-12-2021, 09:09 PM
bright spots remain- white,murray,vassell,kj,12th pick. Even pop can fck that up right?

Keldon can also console Team USA and say losing is part of the culture when playing for Pop.

Uriel
07-12-2021, 09:10 PM
Honestly, I feel like Team USA's playing style--ISO basketball, one-on-one play--has become emblematic of American society more generally. Too much individualism and emphasis on star power. Less emphasis on the group, the collective, and the unit as a whole.

Robz4000
07-12-2021, 09:11 PM
I mean Pop is literally the biggest and most obvious issue. He literally coaching some of the best players in the world and he's making USA look like a 3rd world country. :lol

It's not even funny how much modern basketball has passed him by at this point tbh

:lol it kinda is tbh

Uriel
07-12-2021, 09:13 PM
When the going got tough, you saw players try to take matters into their own hands and chuck 3's heroball style, rather than playing within the team concept.

cd98
07-12-2021, 09:16 PM
They could fire Pop now and have Eric spoelstra take over.

GAustex
07-12-2021, 09:18 PM
As far as talent goes US team had every player more talented.
The “legendary” coach cannot figure out how to get the most out of the best players

TheGreatYacht
07-12-2021, 09:18 PM
-Kawhi/Dennis eating his old man lunch
-Missing the playoffs two years in a row
-Literally zero top assistants want to coach under him
-Almost all of his assistants jumping ship as soon as they can

And now add being absolutely embarrassed on a global level.....

And some of you still want this old man coaching a bunch of 20 somethings for the next few years, jesus f'n christ :lmao
Players demanding buyouts every year :lmao To think this guy still has supporters, even if they do have autism.. but still...

John B
07-12-2021, 09:19 PM
When the going got tough, you saw players try to take matters into their own hands and chuck 3's heroball style, rather than playing within the team concept.

Very Spurs-esque lately tbh

TheGreatYacht
07-12-2021, 09:20 PM
Honestly, I feel like Team USA's playing style--ISO basketball, one-on-one play--has become emblematic of American society more generally. Too much individualism and emphasis on star power. Less emphasis on the group, the collective, and the unit as a whole.
Y'all gotta stop blaming the players bruh. We see ISO hero ball here in his own team as well :lmao Change your profile pic, can't see those frauds any longer

slick'81
07-12-2021, 09:22 PM
Y'all gotta stop blaming the players bruh. We see ISO hero ball here in his own team as well :lmao Change your profile pic, can't see those frauds any longer


No shit. See patty chucks alot,and defrozen this year. The only diff is pop actually picked his pets on the sours

SayTown
07-12-2021, 09:23 PM
Why didn't Team USA just send Jim Fucking Boylen to coach the team? I guarantee his dumbass would have beaten Nigeria

He would've forgotten Durant was on the team and USA still would've won.

TheGreatYacht
07-12-2021, 09:24 PM
1414756106317017090

Sounds familiar :lmao

BatManu20
07-12-2021, 09:26 PM
Harder to win without Timmy than it looks.

slick'81
07-12-2021, 09:28 PM
Harder to win without Timmy than it looks.


Add trading kawhi for demar,tbh

daslicer
07-12-2021, 09:28 PM
Harder to win without Timmy than it looks.

Tim was the ultimate cheat code for Pop.

TheGreatYacht
07-12-2021, 09:31 PM
Short bus has left the forum completely :lmao not even lurking anymore

SpurPadre
07-12-2021, 09:47 PM
Why didn't Team USA just send Jim Fucking Boylen to coach the team? I guarantee his dumbass would have beaten Nigeria :lol

But Boylen would forget to put in Durant in the 2nd half.

SpurPadre
07-12-2021, 09:54 PM
Mills shitting on USA must have impressed Pop enough to keep playing him heavy minutes next season.

slick'81
07-12-2021, 09:57 PM
Mills shitting on USA must have impressed Pop enough to keep playing him heavy minutes next season.


4/48 coming up. Gotta make sure fatty makes $100 mil in his playing career,tbh

K...
07-12-2021, 10:23 PM
I know slagging on pop is the topic of the day, but what does it say of durant , that he came up short at UT, okc, brooklyn and, and now USA.? Dude cant win without curry holding his hand

TheGreatYacht
07-12-2021, 10:24 PM
I know slagging on pop is the topic of the day, but what does it say of durant , that he came up short at UT, okc, brooklyn and, and now USA.? Dude cant win without curry holding his hand
Dude just had some of the most dominant playoff performances of all time lol watch a game bro

ElNono
07-12-2021, 11:12 PM
Coach K had KD taking selfies with a gold medal by halftime... this whole thing about the players is ridiculous...

ElNono
07-12-2021, 11:14 PM
I mean, freaking Argentina, who sucks in this day and age, only lost by 3 to this Aussie team two nights ago on a buzzer beater from Paddy...

BatManu20
07-12-2021, 11:39 PM
Mills shitting on USA must have impressed Pop enough to keep playing him heavy minutes next season.


PATFO about to offer him $15M/yr and retire his jersey after that performance tbh.

slick'81
07-13-2021, 12:10 AM
https://youtu.be/0A5dBrMZUaY

99 Problems
07-13-2021, 12:29 AM
Patty is a beast at FIBA ball. The little Champ running around All Stars looking like prime Penny. Pop would bring home da Gold if he had PatStacks.

tbdog
07-13-2021, 12:32 AM
This is a product of Silver's nba. The stars are not use to physical team work.

timtonymanu
07-13-2021, 12:35 AM
This is a product of Silver's nba. The stars are not use to physical team work.

Pretty much why I don’t feel sympathy for these guys.

timtonymanu
07-13-2021, 12:36 AM
This roster may be worse than 04 tbh

tmtcsc
07-13-2021, 01:00 AM
https://youtu.be/0A5dBrMZUaY

Gregg is such a dick to reporters. Complete asshole. Doesn't let the guy finish his question, talks over him, tries to intimidate him and then gives a bullshit answer. "You're saying we've blown out other teams. That's not accurate." Hey Gregg, USA beat Nigeria by 83 points nine years ago and by 44 in 2016. Don't act like the question wasn't warranted. Plus, he wasn't even asking you, he was addressing Dame. Dude is such a control freak.

tmtcsc
07-13-2021, 01:03 AM
This is a product of Silver's nba. The stars are not use to physical team work.

They seriously need to fix that. Things have swayed so much in favor of the offense that it has made the games uninteresting.

tbdog
07-13-2021, 01:06 AM
They seriously need to fix that. Things have swayed so much in favor of the offense that it has made the games uninteresting.

Then hope USA fail this Olympics. It's probably the only hope at this stage. When the ingredient for NBA success is to get two stars and surround them with 3&D's - then the game becomes uninteresting. Unless you cheer for the team with two stars surrounded by 3&D's

ElNono
07-13-2021, 01:09 AM
They seriously need to fix that. Things have swayed so much in favor of the offense that it has made the games uninteresting.

Don't disagree but it's a copout... Coach K had this same emo NBA players dominating pretty much every team in their path.

Larry Brown used to bitch about the same back in '04, and turns out he was wrong.

slick'81
07-13-2021, 01:14 AM
Don't disagree but it's a copout... Coach K had this same emo NBA players dominating pretty much every team in their path.

Larry Brown used to bitch about the same back in '04, and turns out he was wrong.


Truth

daslicer
07-13-2021, 02:29 AM
Don't disagree but it's a copout... Coach K had this same emo NBA players dominating pretty much every team in their path.

Larry Brown used to bitch about the same back in '04, and turns out he was wrong.

Agreed. I live in NC so I have watched Coach K for years. He has a history of handling high maintenance guys before they enter the NBA. He knows how to deal with huge egos and still get them to buy into his game plan and win. Pop has always been terrible with dealing with young guys.

Rummpd
07-13-2021, 04:09 AM
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31808700/team-usa-falls-0-2-olympic-exhibitions-loss-australia

LoL all on retired in place Pop - quit both jobs and go drink your wine and disappear please

dbestpro
07-13-2021, 06:03 AM
Pop should dominate this but is coaching like it's the NBA. The issue comes down to team ball vs iso ball and the lack of defense that is played in the NBA. The fault lies with the idea of the NBA modern game being better.

Dex
07-13-2021, 08:24 AM
Then hope USA fail this Olympics. It's probably the only hope at this stage. When the ingredient for NBA success is to get two stars and surround them with 3&D's - then the game becomes uninteresting. Unless you cheer for the team with two stars surrounded by 3&D's

The problem is that the NBA doesn't give a shit about FIBA Basketball. They are not going to change their product just so the USA team can dominate a tournament that the majority of NBA fans doesn't even really watch.

This is going to be up to the USA Basketball program to fix. Whatever happened to holding players accountable and making them commit to the program like they did after 2004? They used to make guys actually commit to working with USAB, playing in the Worlds and qualifiers so that they actually know what FIBA basketball looks and feels like, and stick to their promise to play for the USA.

Now they just throw a team together at the last minute of the guys who can actually be bothered to show up, and that's how you end up with this ragtag bunch of borderline All-Stars instead of the dream teams. The writing was on the wall in the 2019 World Cup when the biggest star on the team was Kemba fucking Walker.

Maybe they just need to revamp the program and put together a team of guys solely dedicated to FIBA basketball instead of just relying on players who treat it like some sort of free vacation.

D-Robinson 50 fan
07-13-2021, 08:50 AM
that was fucking terrible. This game and the last is really exposing players who don’t know how to play within a team concept

You ain’t never lied!!

team defense is bad because most of the players are poor defenders and on their NBA team aren’t asked to really defend. Too much isolation on offense because the players are so used to doing it on their NBA team. USA has great individual talent overall but has no clue how to play together.

Pop is going to have to coach this team and hurt some superstar players feelings. He is gonna have to play guys like Bam and Grant more over guys with higher NBA cache.

superbigtime
07-13-2021, 09:13 AM
embarassing

lefty
07-13-2021, 09:16 AM
Pop should dominate this but is coaching like it's the NBA. The issue comes down to team ball vs iso ball and the lack of defense that is played in the NBA. The fault lies with the idea of the NBA modern game being better.
Or maybe the World is just catching up

Dex
07-13-2021, 09:23 AM
You ain’t never lied!!

team defense is bad because most of the players are poor defenders and on their NBA team aren’t asked to really defend. Too much isolation on offense because the players are so used to doing it on their NBA team. USA has great individual talent overall but has no clue how to play together.

Pop is going to have to coach this team and hurt some superstar players feelings. He is gonna have to play guys like Bam and Grant more over guys with higher NBA cache.

Funny you mention that, because Grant looked pretty good with the starting unit yesterday. Was playing solid defense and picking his spots well.

Keldon Johnson also looked good in his limited time, and the US had a comfortable lead at that point.

Then the going got tough in the 2nd half, the "stars" came in and tried hero-balling their way out of it, and suddenly they were down by almost double-digits.

I actually really like Lillard...but I'm starting to see why his Portland teams never get over the hump. His response to everything is to try to take a 30-footer to stop the bleeding.

cd98
07-13-2021, 09:25 AM
The world caught up a while ago. The US still has the most abundant amount of talent, but how many foreign players were in the MVP discussion this year? It's not just that talent around the world is making the NBA, they are high quality players in the NBA. There is no guaranteed gold anymore. The US will be the favorite to win because of the depth of talent, but no doubt continuity and the fact that the best players are just weeks removed from grueling playoff series where they were the main players and were playing heavy minutes will factor into how they play for these exhibition games.

The US depth of talent is deep. Imagine that players such as Curry, Kawhi, George, Lebron, and Davis are not there. And I'm sure there are others. This is not the best team USA has fielded or could field.

D-Robinson 50 fan
07-13-2021, 09:37 AM
Funny you mention that, because Grant looked pretty good with the starting unit yesterday. Was playing solid defense and picking his spots well.

Keldon Johnson also looked good in his limited time, and the US had a comfortable lead at that point.

Then the going got tough in the 2nd half, the "stars" came in and tried hero-balling their way out of it, and suddenly they were down by almost double-digits.

I actually really like Lillard...but I'm starting to see why his Portland teams never get over the hump. His response to everything is to try to take a 30-footer to stop the bleeding.

i watched the game last night and by mid to late 3rd quarter I knew USA would lose because Pop stuck with the “star” players way too long when the lead evaporated.

to be fair to Pop and the coaching staff though. Coach K years before knew which players would play in the Olympics and they had way longer to prepare for the Olympics. They even had them play in FIBA tournaments to help with seeding and gel as a team. The last few tournaments were G-League guys who actually did well because they built a team not a bunch of individuals. The reason they started it the way they did with Coach K and Colangelo running shit is due to the NBA losing in past Olympics because they were just throwing teams together at the last minute. This situation is very similar to that. I know most folks who are complaining and bashing Pop don’t want to hear that though. Lol.

Pop definitely deserves some blame for them losing these 2 games though. He is going to have to bruise egos by benching some of these guys if they don’t buy into a more team concept. These guys are gonna have to play defense also. Too many times I seen players not even closing out hard on shooters in the first 2 exhibitions or not talking defensively. I honestly think Middleton, Holiday, and Booker will help a lot because they all are good offensively and good (Booker is getting better) defensively.

They are gonna need guys who play both sides of the ball to win gold and Pop is going to have to roll sometimes with lesser players in name recognition to win gold.

TheGreatYacht
07-13-2021, 09:39 AM
Folks really hyping up a Patty Mills led team and acting like a team with KD, Lillard, and Tatum is weak :lmao Spurm fans man...

SpursDynasty85
07-13-2021, 10:04 AM
None of these games even matter yet. Every year the international teams are going to get better and this is not the strongest USA team. Gotta put things into context besides "Pop sucks". He also has a world class coaching staff as well so why aren't they to blame? The team is just not ready for teams that have been practicing more lately and itching to get out there while most these guys' bodies are ready for vacation after that grueling season. Not to mention not a lot of practice time.

John B
07-13-2021, 10:05 AM
Or maybe the World is just catching up
Truth. The last two MVP’s are foreign players, and not including Doncic who will be in the years to come. That Nigerian team did not look anything like what Barkeley used elbow around. That block by Achiuwa on Durant was unreal :lol

Dex
07-13-2021, 10:07 AM
Folks really hyping up a Patty Mills led team and acting like a team with KD, Lillard, and Tatum is weak :lmao Spurm fans man...

I mean...they lost to a Patty Mills led team who also lost their starting center (and NBA player) in the first quarter, so....

cd98
07-13-2021, 10:40 AM
Every game Team USA plays, their opponent is going to give everything to win. For them, beating Team USA is like winning the gold. That’s true even in exhibition games that the US players probably don’t even care about other than not wanting to be trolled.

TimDunkem
07-13-2021, 10:45 AM
Pop should dominate this but is coaching like it's the NBA. The issue comes down to team ball vs iso ball and the lack of defense that is played in the NBA. The fault lies with the idea of the NBA modern game being better.

There was a time when Poop could adjust. Not anymore. Not without Tim holding his hand.

TimDunkem
07-13-2021, 10:46 AM
Every game Team USA plays, their opponent is going to give everything to win. For them, beating Team USA is like winning the gold. That’s true even in exhibition games that the US players probably don’t even care about other than not wanting to be trolled.

That's enough. KD has multiple burners because he hates being trolled.

Russ
07-13-2021, 11:05 AM
Pop is going to have to coach this team and hurt some superstar players feelings. He is gonna have to play guys like Bam and Grant more over guys with higher NBA cache.

That's where KJ could come in. Pop could give KJ a role (he looked good) and then coach him hard (like Duncan). That might allow him to coach the other guys. Right now I think Pop is scared of his players. That's not his comfort zone.

Dex
07-13-2021, 11:21 AM
That's where KJ could come in. Pop could give KJ a role (he looked good) and then coach him hard (like Duncan). That might allow him to coach the other guys. Right now I think Pop is scared of his players. That's not his comfort zone.

Well, his players just lost their first two exhibition games so they deserve to be yelled at a bit now.

Mugen
07-13-2021, 11:58 AM
Well, his players just lost their first two exhibition games so they deserve to be yelled at a bit now.

Good ol' ass chewing from Jerry Sloan 2.0 should really whip them into shape tbh :lol

rjv
07-13-2021, 12:37 PM
Truth. The last two MVP’s are foreign players, and not including Doncic who will be in the years to come. That Nigerian team did not look anything like what Barkeley used elbow around. That block by Achiuwa on Durant was unreal :lol

i agree and will add that the first dream team shouldn't be compared to any present day american team for several reasons. first, international competition was nowhere near what it is now. second, there will never be a team as stacked as those first few dream teams were. third, the NBA's decisions to create an offense friendly set of rules has players having to adopt to the international level of play. international players are more physical while NBA players are conditioned to look for calls when on offense and back off the opposing players when on defense. and one has to wonder about selecting players who are iso players and not generally used to passing the ball, another construct of the current NBA.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
07-13-2021, 12:39 PM
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daslicer
07-13-2021, 12:48 PM
Truth. The last two MVP’s are foreign players, and not including Doncic who will be in the years to come. That Nigerian team did not look anything like what Barkeley used elbow around. That block by Achiuwa on Durant was unreal :lol

Nigeria looked nothing like it's past two incarnations which was the '12 and '16 team. 11 out of 12 of those kids on team Nigeria are US citizens that grew up in the US. Nigeria if anything got smarter with it's recruiting. Those kids would play on Team USA if they were considered but are second to third tier NBA talent so they ended up doing the second best thing which is playing for the country of their parents and family ancestry.

With that being said Pop should have still found a way to beat them.

Russ
07-13-2021, 01:07 PM
Nigeria looked nothing like it's past two incarnations which was the '12 and '16 team. 11 out of 12 of those kids on team Nigeria are US citizens that grew up in the US. Nigeria if anything got smarter with it's recruiting. Those kids would play on Team USA if they were considered but are second to third tier NBA talent so they ended up doing the second best thing which is playing for the country of their parents and family ancestry.



Anything goes in the Olympics. Becky played for Russia.

daslicer
07-13-2021, 01:10 PM
Anything goes in the Olympics. Becky played for Russia.

Yes I know hence why the final part of my quote which you omitted which said "With that being said Pop should have still found a way to beat them."

paperboy77
07-13-2021, 01:29 PM
Every game Team USA plays, their opponent is going to give everything to win. For them, beating Team USA is like winning the gold. That’s true even in exhibition games that the US players probably don’t even care about other than not wanting to be trolled.

You're 100% right about opponents efforts vs USAB. My issue is that our team doesn’t give a shit and act like they’re better. If that’s the case this is a shitty team that was put together. The selection processed needs to be revamped.

SayTown
07-13-2021, 01:50 PM
Well, his players just lost their first two exhibition games so they deserve to be yelled at a bit now.

If Pop yelled at these divas some of them would quit.

Dex
07-13-2021, 01:54 PM
If Pop yelled at these divas some of them would quit.

Good. Pop's not out there trying to build the next superteam or coddle egos. If they want to quit, get the fuck out.

But if the US doesn't win gold, I don't want to hear a single one of them make excuses about how "we didn't play hard enough" or :cry "Pop yelled at me" :cry

rjv
07-13-2021, 01:55 PM
Every game Team USA plays, their opponent is going to give everything to win. For them, beating Team USA is like winning the gold. That’s true even in exhibition games that the US players probably don’t even care about other than not wanting to be trolled.

pippen's comments about KD looking pretty on point at the moment.

rjv
07-13-2021, 01:55 PM
Every game Team USA plays, their opponent is going to give everything to win. For them, beating Team USA is like winning the gold. That’s true even in exhibition games that the US players probably don’t even care about other than not wanting to be trolled.

pippen's comments about KD looking pretty on point at the moment.

Russ
07-13-2021, 02:26 PM
Yes I know hence why the final part of my quote which you omitted which said "With that being said Pop should have still found a way to beat them."

?

Rummpd
07-13-2021, 02:33 PM
Durant has to take some blame as supposed greatest NBA player in game right now. He has never won without stacked teams and time for Diva to man up.

TheGreatYacht
07-13-2021, 03:28 PM
Good. Pop's not out there trying to build the next superteam or coddle egos. If they want to quit, get the fuck out.

But if the US doesn't win gold, I don't want to hear a single one of them make excuses about how "we didn't play hard enough" or :cry "Pop yelled at me" :cry
So far, Pop is definitely there to coddle egos lmao. He literally wiped his lips off after talking about begging, getting on his knees, and giving a little sucky sucky to KD to join the squad. His tough guy act shit he pulls on Lonnie will definitely not be tried on a strong black player like Draymond, I’ll tell you that. He’s going to let Donkey scrub it up out there until donkey checks himself out.

rjv
07-13-2021, 03:47 PM
daly went golfing with jordan in the midst of the pistons/bulls rivalry and the rumors that jordan and pippen had something to do with isaiah being left off the squad. of course these coaches are there to coddle egos.

Dex
07-13-2021, 03:51 PM
So far, Pop is definitely there to coddle egos lmao. He literally wiped his lips off after talking about begging, getting on his knees, and giving a little sucky sucky to KD to join the squad. His tough guy act shit he pulls on Lonnie will definitely not be tried on a strong black player like Draymond, I’ll tell you that. He’s going to let Donkey scrub it up out there until donkey checks himself out.

You should use some more inflammatory words in your posts, tbh. I'm not sure your point is coming across

DAF86
07-13-2021, 04:32 PM
Pop should just stop tainting his legacy and just call it quits.

MultiTroll
07-13-2021, 04:35 PM
Durant has to take some blame as supposed greatest NBA player in game right now. He has never won without stacked teams and time for Diva to man up.
Durbetta got a little less hateable in the Bucks series when he actually stepped up without a stacked team and Kome level reffing.

But ya anyone who swallows the *Best Player in NBA* swill.......mission accomplished by ABC/Disney/NBA marketing shills.

MultiTroll
07-13-2021, 04:37 PM
Pop should just stop tainting his legacy and just call it quits.
June 2014.

I actually say Summer 2005 but know no way Spurs Inc would have pulled that off.

Russ
07-13-2021, 04:44 PM
So sitting here before the game. This is going to be a punk job (strike that) a big win for Team USA. :)

rjv
07-13-2021, 05:09 PM
much better ball movement so far and much better effort on the boards.

Sugus
07-13-2021, 05:58 PM
I mean, freaking Argentina, who sucks in this day and age, only lost by 3 to this Aussie team two nights ago on a buzzer beater from Paddy...

You clearly know little of Argentina's NT and their capabilities, TBH, they tend to do very well in international competitions and reached the Finals (or was it Semis? Forgetting...) the last world cup. They're lacking on the frontcourt, but hardly "suck". Get better info...

KobesAchilles
07-13-2021, 06:12 PM
You clearly know little of Argentina's NT and their capabilities, TBH, they tend to do very well in international competitions and reached the Finals (or was it Semis? Forgetting...) the last world cup. They're lacking on the frontcourt, but hardly "suck". Get better info...
Idk why but I thought NoNo was from Argentina for some reason. Like I know he lives in Cali but has ties to Argentina. Weird mistake by me.

Kurik
07-13-2021, 06:16 PM
I have to give credit to Beal, he’s been playing with a motor in each game going after every rebound or loose ball. Becoming one of my favorite non-Spurs players.

Sugus
07-13-2021, 06:16 PM
Idk why but I thought NoNo was from Argentina for some reason. Like I know he lives in Cali but has ties to Argentina. Weird mistake by me.

Plenty of Argies know jack shit about our basketball NT, since football (soccer) is all the hype around these parts (obligatory tag DAF86 SOMOS CAMPEONES PAPAAAA!!!!!!), but I'd expect more out of someone specifically posting in a basketball forum.

In any case, sadly Argentina isn't putting up the fight I'd expect them to, today. Why'd the USA team have to wake up right now, man? Can't y'all have sucked for one more game? Smh

GAustex
07-13-2021, 06:19 PM
Nigeria kicked Argies ass yesterday

Sugus
07-13-2021, 06:30 PM
Nigeria kicked Argies ass yesterday

Yeah, they have a great frontcourt, my guy Precious is honestly a revelation in this tourney. They also kicked USA's assess too a few days ago, so no bragging rights to y'all :lol

Dejounte
07-13-2021, 06:37 PM
Is it possible Keldon makes it on the main team after these exhibition games??

Mugen
07-13-2021, 06:55 PM
Jerry Sloan 2.0 probably racking his brain to figure out how to get Josh Maggette on the final roster :lol

MultiTroll
07-13-2021, 07:22 PM
They also kicked USA's assess too a few days ago, so no bragging rights to y'all :lol
Nigeria 90 USA 87
Nigeria 94 Argie 71


USA 108 Argie 80

Sorry porks but the common opponent and head to head show that Argie relatively sucks. Might have some good players but this year not 5 at once.

TheGreatYacht
07-13-2021, 07:25 PM
Jerry Sloan 2.0 probably racking his brain to figure out how to get Josh Maggette on the final roster :lol
His John Stockton :lol

Sugus
07-13-2021, 07:30 PM
Nigeria 90 USA 87
Nigeria 94 Argie 71


USA 108 Argie 80

Sorry porks but the common opponent and head to head show that Argie relatively sucks. Might have some good players but this year not 5 at once.

Yeah, three exhibition matchups are most certainly definitive proof, nevermind any kind of analysis of roster compositions and how they might favor one team or the other, and also nevermind team USA coming out of the gates blazing with hunger after getting punked twice in a row...

The kind of analysis I'd expect from ST experts, tbh, kinda missed it :wakeup

MultiTroll
07-13-2021, 07:32 PM
The kind of analysis I'd expect from ST experts, tbh, kinda missed it :wakeup
We'll check back with your expert analysis at the end of the tourney, right?

Sugus
07-13-2021, 07:36 PM
We'll check back with your expert analysis at the end of the tourney, right?

Of course. I can tell you right now that USA ain't winning gold. Argentina ain't winning it either, but that's beside the point :lol

MultiTroll
07-13-2021, 07:52 PM
Of course. I can tell you right now that USA ain't winning gold. Argentina ain't winning it either, but that's beside the point :lol
Pretty sure Vegas or some house will take Anyone But USA with at least 8-1 odds.

Ice009
07-13-2021, 07:54 PM
pippen's comments about KD looking pretty on point at the moment.

Wow. Just saw that Team USA lost their first two exhibition games. This does not look good at all. Hopefully they can turn it around.

What are the comments that Pippen said?

BatManu20
07-13-2021, 08:32 PM
Lol at Kevin Love being in this roster.

DAF86
07-13-2021, 08:35 PM
I mean, freaking Argentina, who sucks in this day and age, only lost by 3 to this Aussie team two nights ago on a buzzer beater from Paddy...

Dude, Argentina are the current WC finalists. :lol

Dex
07-13-2021, 08:38 PM
Is it possible Keldon makes it on the main team after these exhibition games??

Not without an injury or one of the main players dropping out. The only reason he is playing with the USAB team right now is because Booker, Middleton, and Holiday are still finishing the Finals.

DAF86
07-13-2021, 08:39 PM
Nigeria 90 USA 87
Nigeria 94 Argie 71


USA 108 Argie 80

Sorry porks but the common opponent and head to head show that Argie relatively sucks. Might have some good players but this year not 5 at once.

Argentina are the current WC finalists, having beat Jokic's Serbia and Gobert's France, and on this ocassion they have even more talent. I haven't been watching the friendlies so I can't tell what's going on, but I expect (hope) for them to do a lot better when the real games begin.

MultiTroll
07-13-2021, 08:53 PM
Argentina are the current WC finalists, having beat Jokic's Serbia and Gobert's France, and on this ocassion they have even more talent. I haven't been watching the friendlies so I can't tell what's going on, but I expect (hope) for them to do a lot better when the real games begin.
So maybe they are coasting / resting players?
Unlike Pop, who simply sucks.

Any houses you know taking Anyone But USA so Sugus can bank?

Dex
07-13-2021, 08:55 PM
So maybe they are coasting / resting players?
Unlike Pop, who simply sucks.

Any houses you know taking Anyone But USA so Sugus can bank?

Sky is red,

Grass is blue,

Just because you say it,

Does not make it true.

MultiTroll
07-13-2021, 09:00 PM
Are you talking to me or Sugus?

Btw I'm happily married if you are trying to swoon me with your poetry.

R. DeMurre
07-13-2021, 09:27 PM
Nigeria heads to the Olympics ranked 22nd in the FIBA world rankings... They look like they have a good shot at being in the top 5 now. What a story it'd be if they won the Gold.

ElNono
07-13-2021, 09:31 PM
You clearly know little of Argentina's NT and their capabilities, TBH, they tend to do very well in international competitions and reached the Finals (or was it Semis? Forgetting...) the last world cup. They're lacking on the frontcourt, but hardly "suck". Get better info...

They're not a contending team anymore. There's no expectation that they'll win anything. Yes, they reached the final last WC and got their asses handed to them by Spain...

Sorry, the fact that Scola is still playing with that team says everything that needs to be said.

ElNono
07-13-2021, 09:33 PM
Idk why but I thought NoNo was from Argentina for some reason. Like I know he lives in Cali but has ties to Argentina. Weird mistake by me.

You are right actually...

ElNono
07-13-2021, 09:34 PM
Plenty of Argies know jack shit about our basketball NT, since football (soccer) is all the hype around these parts (obligatory tag DAF86 SOMOS CAMPEONES PAPAAAA!!!!!!), but I'd expect more out of someone specifically posting in a basketball forum.

In any case, sadly Argentina isn't putting up the fight I'd expect them to, today. Why'd the USA team have to wake up right now, man? Can't y'all have sucked for one more game? Smh

I know plenty about Argentina's NT. I'm just not a blind homer.

ElNono
07-13-2021, 09:35 PM
Dude, Argentina are the current WC finalists. :lol

And? See my post above.

Robz4000
07-13-2021, 10:11 PM
If USA plays to their potential they'll win gold relatively comfortably, but that's a big if. Pop coaching only exacerbates the problem, albeit FIBA basketball is more up his alley than modern NBA ball.

SpurPadre
07-13-2021, 10:30 PM
If USA plays to their potential they'll win gold relatively comfortably, but that's a big if. Pop coaching only exacerbates the problem, albeit FIBA basketball is more up his alley than modern NBA ball.

Nah, dude. Mills is gonna shit all over USA again. Their coach won't have him defend Durant like Pop loves to do, either.

Sugus
07-13-2021, 10:51 PM
They're not a contending team anymore. There's no expectation that they'll win anything. Yes, they reached the final last WC and got their asses handed to them by Spain...

Sorry, the fact that Scola is still playing with that team says everything that needs to be said.

You're either hyperbolizing to hell and back in either your previous post or this one, or trolling me with this. I mean, I know you're a troll, but it's more entertaining if I take your word at face value on this.

How can the same team that went to the WC Finals and lost to a great Spain team, be "shit" and have no expectation of winning anything? Plain bullshit. Yeah, of course they aren't favorites to win gold medal, but they're certainly contending - especially with Campazzo now in the NBA and new young blood like Vildoza and Lapro. Scola isn't in his prime anymore but it's stupidly disingenuous to say that his presence alone "says everything"; not only did he have quite the productive game today, he was eating big men alive last WC and has been for years. Hell, LeBron is 36 and still arguably on top of the NBA :lol age ain't the end-all be-all that it once was.

The team lacks quality big men to replace Luifa, but it's still a great team that can aspire to make a lot of noise and get any of the medals, you paint an absolutely wrong picture of it, which is strange given you're apparently so well-tied to Argentina and such. Guess it's the inescapable American superiority complex, still alive and well even in this day and age...

Sugus
07-13-2021, 10:53 PM
Nah, dude. Mills is gonna shit all over USA again. Their coach won't have him defend Durant like Pop loves to do, either.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the US upset in this tourney, by Australia or any other team. Everyone keeps expecting them to "kick it up a notch", and while they won today, it was hardly in impressive fashion. They're more paper tigers this year than maybe ever before tbh

DAF86
07-13-2021, 11:20 PM
And? See my post above.

So you have to be a blind homer to think the current WC finalists aren't shit? :lol

DAF86
07-13-2021, 11:22 PM
They're not a contending team anymore. There's no expectation that they'll win anything. Yes, they reached the final last WC and got their asses handed to them by Spain...

Sorry, the fact that Scola is still playing with that team says everything that needs to be said.

Scola outplayed the likes of Jokic and Gobert in the last WC. :lol

ElNono
07-13-2021, 11:24 PM
You're either hyperbolizing to hell and back in either your previous post or this one, or trolling me with this. I mean, I know you're a troll, but it's more entertaining if I take your word at face value on this.

How can the same team that went to the WC Finals and lost to a great Spain team, be "shit" and have no expectation of winning anything? Plain bullshit. Yeah, of course they aren't favorites to win gold medal, but they're certainly contending - especially with Campazzo now in the NBA and new young blood like Vildoza and Lapro. Scola isn't in his prime anymore but it's stupidly disingenuous to say that his presence alone "says everything"; not only did he have quite the productive game today, he was eating big men alive last WC and has been for years. Hell, LeBron is 36 and still arguably on top of the NBA :lol age ain't the end-all be-all that it once was.

The team lacks quality big men to replace Luifa, but it's still a great team that can aspire to make a lot of noise and get any of the medals, you paint an absolutely wrong picture of it, which is strange given you're apparently so well-tied to Argentina and such. Guess it's the inescapable American superiority complex, still alive and well even in this day and age...

I didn't say "shit". I said "sucks" and there might be some hyperbole to that, but the reality is that they reached the WC final after Serbia beat a very pedestrian Team USA, which had nowhere near the roster this Team USA had.

And let's be honest, Lapro couldn't cut it in the NBA, Garino couldn't either, I love Deck but his game is rough as hell, and as good Campazzo has become he's not really that complicated to game plan against. Not going to ask anything else of Luifa, and we should not, he's well past his prime.

When you're a contender you don't go "make some noise". That's what we did before the golden generation, and we came back empty handed, which is what our expectation with this roster should be.

ElNono
07-13-2021, 11:27 PM
So you have to be a blind homer to think the current WC finalists aren't shit? :lol

I meant the "contending" post.


Scola outplayed the likes of Jokic and Gobert in the last WC. :lol

Scola is two years older, and we're still having to trot him out there because, let's face it, there's nobody else.

Team USA basically sent scrubs to that WC. That's not what this competition is going to look like.

DAF86
07-13-2021, 11:31 PM
I meant the "contending" post.



Scola is two years older, and we're still having to trot him out there because, let's face it, there's nobody else.

Team USA basically sent scrubs to that WC. That's not what this competition is going to look like.

I don't care who the US or any other NT sends, that's not the issue here. You said this current Argentina team sucks, it doesn't. That's the whole debate here. :lol

MultiTroll
07-13-2021, 11:34 PM
Anyone think it's crazy for Durbetta to be putting this many miles on his Achilles?

Klanus just ruled out another 6 months.

ElNono
07-13-2021, 11:43 PM
I don't care who the US or any other NT sends, that's not the issue here. You said this current Argentina team sucks, it doesn't. That's the whole debate here. :lol

:lol of course it is when your claim that Argentina doesn't suck it's because it was a finalist in the last WC two years ago... the least you can do is acknowledge it's not the same level of competition they'll face now.

And look, let's see how it works out. Feel free to bump this if they medal.

DAF86
07-13-2021, 11:57 PM
:lol of course it is when your claim that Argentina doesn't suck it's because it was a finalist in the last WC two years ago... the least you can do is acknowledge it's not the same level of competition they'll face now.

And look, let's see how it works out. Feel free to bump this if they medal.

I don't care the level of competition and I don't care if they medal or not, they do not suck. It's simple as that. :lol

ElNono
07-14-2021, 12:08 AM
I don't care the level of competition and I don't care if they medal or not, they do not suck. It's simple as that. :lol

What you care or not about is immaterial. Compared to other Argentina teams before them, this Argentina team literally sucks. It’s not even close.

DAF86
07-14-2021, 12:13 AM
What you care or not about is immaterial. Compared to other Argentina teams before them, this Argentina team literally sucks. It’s not even close.

Ok, the WC finalists suck, son. You win. :lol

ElNono
07-14-2021, 12:20 AM
Ok, the WC finalists suck, son. You win. :lol


:lol of course it is when your claim that Argentina doesn't suck it's because it was a finalist in the last WC two years ago...

:lol too easy

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-14-2021, 11:49 AM
Nigeria looks like the best team, far and away, in this Vegas tourney.

daslicer
07-14-2021, 12:13 PM
Nigeria looks like the best team, far and away, in this Vegas tourney.

Australia beat them by 39 the other night. No team is truly dominant from watching all these exhibition games.

rjv
07-14-2021, 03:52 PM
Nigeria 90 USA 87
Nigeria 94 Argie 71


USA 108 Argie 80

Sorry porks but the common opponent and head to head show that Argie relatively sucks. Might have some good players but this year not 5 at once.

the logic of the common opponent is a slippery slope. for instance, it took a last second three for australia to beat argentina, argentina then lost to nigeria by 23 and nigeria got demolished by australia yesterday (at one point they were down by more than 40). that being said, the argies are not a very good squad this go around.

ace3g
07-14-2021, 07:32 PM
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AP source: USA Basketball guard Bradley Beal has entered the health and safety protocols in Las Vegas, raising the possibility that he may not be able to attend the Tokyo Games. There is nothing definitive about that at this point.
7:09pm · 14 Jul 2021 (https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1415463511833124868) · Twitter Web App (https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/how-to-tweet#source-labels)

Dex
07-14-2021, 08:57 PM
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AP source: USA Basketball guard Bradley Beal has entered the health and safety protocols in Las Vegas, raising the possibility that he may not be able to attend the Tokyo Games. There is nothing definitive about that at this point.
7:09pm · 14 Jul 2021 (https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1415463511833124868) · Twitter Web App (https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/how-to-tweet#source-labels)

Interesting development. If multiple USA players end up being affected, this could get ugly real fast.

Maybe Vegas wasn't the best place to take everybody before sending them all to Tokyo.

John B
07-14-2021, 09:30 PM
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AP source: USA Basketball guard Bradley Beal has entered the health and safety protocols in Las Vegas, raising the possibility that he may not be able to attend the Tokyo Games. There is nothing definitive about that at this point.
7:09pm · 14 Jul 2021 (https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1415463511833124868) · Twitter Web App (https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/how-to-tweet#source-labels)

I mean do people still get it if they’re vaccinated? Can I assume he’s not? I can’t really understand why people still won’t get vaccinated, especially if you’re going to be around people.

Dex
07-14-2021, 09:34 PM
I mean do people still get it if they’re vaccinated? Can I assume he’s not? I can’t really understand why people still won’t get vaccinated, especially if you’re going to be around people.

Yes, people can still contract COVID or one of the variants even if they are vaccinated.

Chris Paul was vaccinated and still ended up testing positive which caused him to miss a few games during the playoffs.

No vaccine is 100% effective, but yes...people still need to go get vaccinated. It's a numbers game, and we need to get on the right side of the numbers.

Seventyniner
07-14-2021, 10:14 PM
Yes, people can still contract COVID or one of the variants even if they are vaccinated.

Chris Paul was vaccinated and still ended up testing positive which caused him to miss a few games during the playoffs.

No vaccine is 100% effective, but yes...people still need to go get vaccinated. It's a numbers game, and we need to get on the right side of the numbers.

Well, contracting Covid is not the same as testing positive. With how sensitive many of the tests are, the false positive rate is and has been nowhere near trivial.

Dex
07-14-2021, 10:34 PM
Well, contracting Covid is not the same as testing positive. With how sensitive many of the tests are, the false positive rate is and has been nowhere near trivial.

True. I'm not a doctor, but I also don't think they would have kept Paul out of multiple critical games for one false positive on a test.

Just saying...being vaccinated doesn't mean you are invincible. It just dramatically helps your chances.

Robz4000
07-14-2021, 10:39 PM
True. I'm not a doctor, but I also don't think they would have kept Paul out of multiple critical games for one false positive on a test.

Just saying...being vaccinated doesn't mean you are invincible. It just dramattically helps your chances.

If you get vaccinated you can still contract the virus, but it'll keep you from developing any serious illness (or any symptoms 95% of the time). Problem is you can still spread it to other people, including those not vaccinated.

Seventyniner
07-14-2021, 10:39 PM
True. I'm not a doctor, but I also don't think they would have kept Paul out of multiple critical games for one false positive on a test.

Just saying...being vaccinated doesn't mean you are invincible. It just dramattically helps your chances.

Fair enough. :bobo

It's possible that the NBA's protocols are just that strict and the importance of the games doesn't matter. I would actually give the league props if that's the case.

The opposite leads to the famous Tark quote "The NCAA was so mad at Kentucky they gave Cleveland State two more years of probation."

koriwhat
07-15-2021, 01:12 PM
I mean do people still get it if they’re vaccinated? Can I assume he’s not? I can’t really understand why people still won’t get vaccinated, especially if you’re going to be around people.

:lmao

koriwhat
07-15-2021, 01:12 PM
No vaccine is 100% effective, but yes...people still need to go get vaccinated.

:lmao

Dex
07-15-2021, 01:12 PM
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This is going well. :downspin:

Dex
07-15-2021, 03:57 PM
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Another wing/shooter?

How about like...a point guard?

Also, some unsubstantiated rumors that Love may be out as well. KJ may end up going to Tokyo after all just so they have enough warm bodies.

slick'81
07-15-2021, 05:45 PM
1415740862395465736

Another wing/shooter?

How about like...a point guard?

Also, some unsubstantiated rumors that Love may be out as well. KJ may end up going to Tokyo after all just so they have enough warm bodies.


This is my thought. They will surely have to call up an alternate now,KJ going to Japan baaaby!

MultiTroll
07-15-2021, 09:04 PM
Please tell me this is just fake news:

Trae Young got rejected for a spot.

Trae Young Has Honest Reaction To Latest Team USA Basketball News (thespun.com) (https://thespun.com/nba/atlanta-hawks/trae-young-has-honest-reaction-to-latest-team-usa-basketball-news)

slick'81
07-15-2021, 09:10 PM
Please tell me this is just fake news:

Trae Young got rejected for a spot.

Trae Young Has Honest Reaction To Latest Team USA Basketball News (thespun.com) (https://thespun.com/nba/atlanta-hawks/trae-young-has-honest-reaction-to-latest-team-usa-basketball-news)

apparently they are looking at tobias harris to replace beal. Not sure who replaces grant

MultiTroll
07-15-2021, 10:47 PM
apparently they are looking at tobias harris to replace beal. Not sure who replaces grant
No i mean on the original selections.
Trae rejected by Popped and Colangelold.

Dex
07-16-2021, 08:07 AM
No i mean on the original selections.
Trae rejected by Popped and Colangelold.

I saw one article that insinuated Trae had a falling out with Lloyd Pierce, who is one of the coaching assistants.

I'm all for team unity and what not, but that seems dumb to let petty differences keep you from recruiting one of the best available talents.

K...
07-16-2021, 08:54 AM
Which is more true? Australia canceled the scrimmage to avoid embarrassing POp or that pop was scared of FiBA Patty and went full chickenshit?.

Texas_Ranger
07-16-2021, 11:15 AM
Looks like Keldon will be #12 guy.

Dejounte
07-16-2021, 11:16 AM
Fuck yeah!!

BatManu20
07-16-2021, 11:55 AM
Officially official. Big Body has made the USA Olympic Roster. Good for him tbh.

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TimDunkem
07-16-2021, 12:39 PM
:lmao

Dex
07-16-2021, 02:04 PM
Officially official. Big Body has made the USA Olympic Roster. Good for him tbh.

1416078483168665606

Good shit from a Spurs standpoint. Bad news for team USA as a whole...

This team will be lucky to medal at all at this rate.

Mugen
07-16-2021, 02:09 PM
:lol hanging on for like 3 more years as a coach so you can get to the Olympics only to have it completely derailed by a global pandemic.

Phenomanul
07-16-2021, 03:30 PM
Pretty much... sad.

BackHome
07-17-2021, 01:07 PM
Man Pop is getting killed on ESPN by Perkins - If Pop looses any games the press is going to come at him hard they not your NBA journalist so they don’t give a fuck about Pop. And if Pop still continues to act like an arrogant ass they will crucify him in a heart beat.

Mr. Body
07-17-2021, 01:15 PM
Man Pop is getting killed on ESPN by Perkins - If Pop looses any games the press is going to come at him hard they not your NBA journalist so they don’t give a fuck about Pop. And if Pop still continues to act like an arrogant ass they will crucify him in a heart beat.

Who gives a shit what ESPN has to say?

Bojo
07-17-2021, 01:42 PM
Who gives a shit what ESPN has to say?

to be more specific, who gives a shit what Perkins has to say...terrible take machine.

Dex
07-17-2021, 02:56 PM
Man Pop is getting killed on ESPN by Perkins - If Pop looses any games the press is going to come at him hard they not your NBA journalist so they don’t give a fuck about Pop. And if Pop still continues to act like an arrogant ass they will crucify him in a heart beat.

Well, the first problem would be listening to any dumbass take Kendrick Perkins has to take. Dude can barely form a complete sentence.

Perkins was lucky to be in the backseat of one championship ride and wants to act like he knows better than one of the greatest coaches the NBA has ever seen. Calling him a poor-man's Stephen A. Smith would be an insult so SAS, and I don't even like SAS.

Even RJ and Nichols dog him regularly on The Jump because his "analysis" consists of trying to string together 6 words in a loud voice and acting like he is right all the time.

mikec
07-18-2021, 02:46 PM
Team USA v Spain today. Last exhibition game before heading to Tokyo. I think we win by 10.

Degoat
07-18-2021, 08:33 PM
Dude idk how USA sucks so hard lmao the Spain bigs are making Bam Adebajo look like a scrub

GB20
07-18-2021, 08:35 PM
Pop’s system is not working anymore.

GAustex
07-18-2021, 08:37 PM
Tatum is an inattentive defender

Degoat
07-18-2021, 08:38 PM
Pop’s system is not working anymore.

Ain’t pops fault USA can’t score lol

Dejounte
07-18-2021, 08:39 PM
Lilliard is sooo bad at defense wow

mikec
07-18-2021, 08:42 PM
Finally 3s are starting to fall

GB20
07-18-2021, 08:47 PM
Ain’t pops fault USA can’t score lol
Team USA has to move the ball, like last game against Argentina.

Uriel
07-18-2021, 08:50 PM
How good would Team Spain be if they played in the NBA? Would they be a playoff team?

Uriel
07-18-2021, 09:14 PM
I love Keldon’s energy.

Dejounte
07-18-2021, 09:14 PM
Beautiful read by Keldon to make that pass to Draymond

mikec
07-18-2021, 09:17 PM
Keldon wtf

Dejounte
07-18-2021, 09:18 PM
Lilliard is seriously stinking it up. This guy wants a better Portland team, but what will he do with it when he doesn’t know how to play with other stars like this

Dejounte
07-18-2021, 09:21 PM
BOOM KELDON

Uriel
07-18-2021, 09:22 PM
Big Body!

mikec
07-18-2021, 09:22 PM
Keldon!:hungry:

GAustex
07-18-2021, 09:22 PM
Keldon might be just fine for team USA. They need someone to bump into people and rebound and scrap. He can do that.

Dejounte
07-18-2021, 09:23 PM
Keldon man handling Garuba lmao

Dejounte
07-18-2021, 09:26 PM
KELDON AGAIN AND AGAIN

Floyd Pacquiao
07-18-2021, 09:28 PM
Keldon looks so good not playing with a ball stopper who can’t shoot

mikec
07-18-2021, 09:28 PM
OMG Keldon

Uriel
07-18-2021, 09:28 PM
Keldon shitting on his haters :lmao

Trill Clinton
07-18-2021, 09:29 PM
KJ balling. I remember a lot of ST dummies complaining about him making the squad too smh.

Dejounte
07-18-2021, 09:29 PM
My kid Barkley growing up before my very eyes

SpursDynasty85
07-18-2021, 09:30 PM
Picking up Keldon was a smart move by Pop for Team USA. So versatile and is doing all the garbage work that this team needs. No way we lose the Gold.

ace3g
07-18-2021, 09:30 PM
Keldon shitting on his haters :lmao

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