Official "OKC Loss" Meltdown Thread

[BatManu20]

Season's over. Time to tank. Discuss.

[Richie]

Diaw/West was horribly undersized and got murdered, should have put Marjanovic in. The starters didn't finish well but the bench unit consistently gave up leads.

[spursistan]

not meltdown but i thought we coughed up a winnable game in a historically difficult arena to get ones ..H2H vs West Elite teams are going to be massive in final standings and seeding purposes..That's how i see it..

[Darius Bieber]

Season is over. No real chance of the playoffs.

[unleashbaynes]

Felt like the Spurs controlled the game until the end. Went away from what worked in the final 5 minutes and were forcing shit. Parker basically got murdered by whoever he guarded.

[TE]

Diaw/West was horribly undersized and got murdered, should have put Marjanovic in. The starters didn't finish well but the bench unit consistently gave up leads.
Wouldn't have hurt to put Boban in. At least for a few mins to see how he'd match up with OKC's bigs.

[BillMc]

not meltdown but i thought we coughed up a winnable game in a historically difficult arena to get ones ..H2H vs West Elite teams are going to be massive in final standings and seeding purposes..That's how i see it..

That's fair.

[Mugen]

Team looked great tbh. There's obviously some issues, none unforeseen, but the Thunder are a top 3 team in the league tbh.

[crc21209]

Felt like the Spurs controlled the game until the end. Went away from what worked in the final 5 minutes and were forcing shit. Parker basically got murdered by whoever he guarded.

They did control most of the game. Up 97-90 with about 4 mins left and then they went cold.

[Diego20]

Manu should have played last minutes instead of TP, I don't know how Pop didn't see that..

[dg7md]

:lol

Going to be a fun season here on SpursTalk.

[fresnodog]

Good game. God i hate okc.

[Darius Bieber]

Just Spurs being Spurs. Can't close out games.

[Vokun]

This one is going to piss me off when it comes to final standings. This choke is going to wind up screwing us over.

[cjw]

Diaw/West was horribly undersized and got murdered, should have put Marjanovic in. The starters didn't finish well but the bench unit consistently gave up leads.

Pop needs to figure the rotations out, but I imagine that eventually their minutes together will be minimal - Aldridge or Duncan will be on the court at all times.



not meltdown but i thought we coughed up a winnable game in a historically difficult arena to get ones ..H2H vs West Elite teams are going to be massive in final standings and seeding purposes..That's how i see it..

Stinks that we won't get to see them against OKC again until the last month of the season. Aldridge looked fine for game 1 with a new team. If they play like this, they should beat most of the league night in, night out. Will have to step it up against the other top 7 teams (CLE + top 6 in west).

[SPURt]

I'd be more worried if the nuggets blew the Spurs out by 20

[Kawhi]

At least we're not the Rockets

[Mugen]

:lol Spurs are going to luck out in some games, it'll even out over a long ass season. Maybe don't lose to the Knicks/Lakers his upcoming year tbh

[BatManu20]

Diaw/West was horribly undersized and got murdered, should have put Marjanovic in. The starters didn't finish well but the bench unit consistently gave up leads.

This is my only real concern. If Bobby struggles and cannot be relied on, we have a really big hole at the backup Center position. Our rebounding really falls off with that 2nd unit. OKC is also a great team though with a lot of bigs so we should fair better against most other teams.

[ceperez]

Size was the problem.

West and Diaw are too small too protect the rim.
You can't hide Parker against the Thunder.

Thunder played a good game and it was like they were exploiting Spurs defensive weakness.

Spurs by contrast didn't force Durant to defend. Also did not exploit mismatches whenever they had one. If you got Duncan and Aldrige on the court, then obviously one is playing against a weaker defender.

I also kind of hate this post-up offense when against a decent defender like Ibaka. Maybe to get him in foul trouble, but not late in the game.

[HarlemHeat37]

Lost in the last minute, on the road, vs. a top 4 team in the NBA:lol..a Spurs team that is changing their entire system..relax..

There are things to take away from the game, such as the lack of size in the 2nd unit's frontcourt, for example, but there is a ton of room for improvement..

This game should have been a lot more lopsided, too, considering Kawhi was so hot..

[Ice009]

Wouldn't have hurt to put Boban in. At least for a few mins to see how he'd match up with OKC's bigs.

How many people here don't realize that he was in a suit sitting next to Simmons. Pop took him off the active roster a day or two ago and put Bonner on it instead. They need to dump him and look for a rim protecting big or true backup PG to fill his spot. If McCallum can't play PG, then maybe they should look at trading him for someone that can.

[Harry Callahan]

Honestly, tell me the teams that will be able to bottle up Leonard and LMA on a consistent basis. The Spurs will wear teams out with those two guys. Leonard was a better player than durant tonight and the whistle had to bail out OKC tonight in the fourth.

[r0drig0lac]

#TankForSimmons

[urunobili]

Started the season against one of our toughest match ups on the road and barely lost. It hurts but I'll take it

[Ditty]

Washington is the only tough game really out of our next 10 games, so I think we will be fine.

[Budkin]

TBH I thought we were going to get steamrolled tonight. I'll take it.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

The only long-term takeaways I saw were: Kawhi is legit, and the 2nd unit is going to have a bad rebounding problem.

[Dancelot]

I'd be more worried if the nuggets blew the Spurs out by 20
This

[Dex]

Spurs had their shot at it. Came down to a couple 50/50 balls that they couldn't come up with...the rebound on Durant's brick, and the awkward bounce off the rim that Aldridge missed after that forced shot from Danny.

Scheduled loss, imo. Still 81 games to right the ship. Defense looked stout, Aldridge looked comfortable, Kawhi beasted, and Duncan and Manu still look to have their legs.

Not worried.

[Dex]

The only long-term takeaways I saw were: Kawhi is legit, and the 2nd unit is going to have a bad rebounding problem.


This...the one crack on West and Diaw is that they are both undersized and not great rebounders, and that really showed tonight.

[Harry Callahan]

This...the one crack on West and Diaw is that they are both undersized and not great rebounders, and that really showed tonight.

I think Boban could lend some size and rebounding to the bench. He also can be defensive presence against bigger (and hopefully slower) players.

[SAGirl]

Diaw/West was horribly undersized and got murdered, should have put Marjanovic in. The starters didn't finish well but the bench unit consistently gave up leads.
+1
they can be better than this.

[kobyz]

Losing 7 points lead with very little time left, that horrible pattern by most naive coach of all time continue of course, just so frustrate to be a fan, 20 years of most naive team yet no one will put that man in his place, coach is such a soft ass bitch...

[DeRozan m8]

Small ball did get murdered at one point, which isn't surprising as big men is one of OKCs strengths tbh

[BatManu20]

Losing 7 points lead with very little time left, that rare pattern by most versatile coach of all time continue of course, just so lucky to be a fan, 20 years of most successful team yet no one needs to put that man in his place, coach is such a nice, gentle man...

FIFY

[spurtech09]

I don't understand....Spurs were winning throughout mostly the whole game intill the end and and blew the lead....Its not like the spurs got blown out.....Even with the spurs leading the they were not really in sync ......Spurs still have room for improvement .....Just wait intill the spurs get it together and start to gel.....Spurs are going to get better...

[kobyz]

FIFY

lol rare, how much blind a person can be just cause a coach for some reason gives him a hard on?? Losing big leads, losing late leads, most bizarre loses, most heartbreaking loses happen time after time after time for 20 years with this most naive coach of all time, it is even happened in a title game and yet nobody put him in his place to cause him to change his naive ways... Most successful team? Most underachiever team more currect!!! Thanks to this soft ass bitch!!

[kobyz]

I don't understand....Spurs were winning throughout mostly the whole game intill the end and and blew the lead....Its not like the spurs got blown out.....Even with the spurs leading the they were not really in sync ......Spurs still have room for improvement .....Just wait intill the spurs get it together and start to gel.....Spurs are going to get better...
It doesn't matter, even if spurs would be twice as good as the other team, pop will always find ways to lose games that should have been won, It's a pattern!!

[TheDoctor]

Just released:

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[313]

It doesn't matter, even if spurs would be twice as good as the other team, pop will always find ways to lose games that should have been won, It's a pattern!!
:tu truth bomb tbh

[pookenstein]

I don't understand why Pop didn't put Manu in for Danny after the TO when we were down two. 21s to play and Manu had a good gam, both i scoring and distributing.

[Fireball]

no meltdown, just pissed about the loss ... the ceiling is enormous for this team tbh

[davidbowie]

lol i fell asleep during the 4th quarter :sleep

woke up and saw manu's "we couldve played better" tweet

oh well

[Maddog]

Team looked great tbh. There's obviously some issues, none unforeseen, but the Thunder are a top 3 team in the league tbh.


I'd be more worried if the nuggets blew the Spurs out by 20


Lost in the last minute, on the road, vs. a top 4 team in the NBA:lol..a Spurs team that is changing their entire system..relax..

There are things to take away from the game, such as the lack of size in the 2nd unit's frontcourt, for example, but there is a ton of room for improvement..

This game should have been a lot more lopsided, too, considering Kawhi was so hot..


Started the season against one of our toughest match ups on the road and barely lost. It hurts but I'll take it


The only long-term takeaways I saw were: Kawhi is legit, and the 2nd unit is going to have a bad rebounding problem.

I think the second unit will only struggle against really big ultra athletic teams such as this..
I'm disappointed, but a narrow loss on the road against a top team early in the season with new players and to some extent new offensive strategies being incorporated...

[daledondale]

Started the season against one of our toughest match ups on the road and barely lost. It hurts but I'll take it
This.

[disciple]

I'm getting bored with ST. You are all so predictable.

Watch for TJL.

[ceperez]

I don't understand....Spurs were winning throughout mostly the whole game intill the end and and blew the lead....Its not like the spurs got blown out.....Even with the spurs leading the they were not really in sync ......Spurs still have room for improvement .....Just wait intill the spurs get it together and start to gel.....Spurs are going to get better...

Wait... isn't this typical Spurs behavior... giving away leads after a great focused performance?

[ceperez]

I think the second unit will only struggle against really big ultra athletic teams such as this..
I'm disappointed, but a narrow loss on the road against a top team early in the season with new players and to some extent new offensive strategies being incorporated...

It's all about efficiency... Spurs looked quite efficient with the exception of some plays that were obviously forced.

OKC with Kanter and Adams were also pretty big on the second unit. Spurs have an extreme luxury of talented players and may have to spread out the talent out. Honestly, I don't think Leonard/Aldridge or Duncan/Aldridge works out since on the offensive end they practically have the same role.

[random21]

New lineups take a while to mesh the last few minutes of a game... Spurs controlled the 44 mins before they lost it the last 4 or so... No big deal, just learn how to finish... Easy to cleanup

[TXstbobcat]

Not that concerned. Spurs lost to a top contender in the west on the road and Verde had one of his off nights. Leonard had a great offensive and defensive game.

[Brazil]

Lost in the last minute, on the road, vs. a top 4 team in the NBA:lol..a Spurs team that is changing their entire system..relax..

There are things to take away from the game, such as the lack of size in the 2nd unit's frontcourt, for example, but there is a ton of room for improvement..

This game should have been a lot more lopsided, too, considering Kawhi was so hot..

:lol I agree tbh... no need to be mad at this game

Offensively Spurs played good enough scoring 106 points
Transition defense that has been a big issue since last year was superb especially against a very athletic and quick team like OKC... Spurs only gave up 7 points on transition which is one of best total since months :lol
Turnovers were not an issue which is also remarkable knowing this team has a lot of new pieces
We lost because OKC shot a bit better from 3s and got some extra freebies which is to be expected
Yes execution late in the fourth sucked but again there are more positives to take away from this game than negatives tbh

People should chill a bit and put stuff in perspective

[kobyz]

Wait... isn't this typical Spurs behavior... giving away leads after a great focused performance?

Yes and that should be the number 1 something to think about how to fix this!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Maddog]

:lol I agree tbh... no need to be mad at this game

Offensively Spurs played good enough scoring 106 points
Transition defense that has been a big issue since last year was superb especially against a very athletic and quick team like OKC... Spurs only gave up 7 points on transition which is one of best total since months :lol
Turnovers were not an issue which is also remarkable knowing this team has a lot of new pieces
We lost because OKC shot a bit better from 3s and got some extra freebies which is to be expected
Yes execution late in the fourth sucked but again there are more positives to take away from this game than negatives tbh

People should chill a bit and put stuff in perspective

Agreed.
I'm normally a glass half empty kind of guy- but after last night I'm looking at things as half full.
Our old guys looked good (even Tony). Boris is in decent shape, LaMarcus has bought into the system (passing playing D). It needs to be tweaked but not bad..
OKC in addition to being a top 4 team they are a match up problem for the Spurs.

[I. Hustle]

Hot damn Kawhi was playing like a beast. I hope dude keeps it up and gets an all star appearance.

I think the game went better than I expected it to. The Thunders have had some time to play together in meaningful games and LA and D West just needed to get that real game out of the way. The more they play the better they will fit in.

I don't count the pre season games for them because Pop was trying to see who he was going to keep out of all the D leaguers. LOL @ letting them all go anyway.

[Brazil]

Agreed.
I'm normally a glass half empty kind of guy- but after last night I'm looking at things as half full.
Our old guys looked good (even Tony). Boris is in decent shape, LaMarcus has bought into the system (passing playing D). It needs to be tweaked but not bad..
OKC in addition to being a top 4 team they are a match up problem for the Spurs.

fwiw I think Spurs match quite well against OKC... on paper we have all the tools and personnel to play them.

We have the long SF capable to defend KD... few teams can say the same
With LMA, we are more mobile on the perimeter to chase Ibaka JS
We can hide Parker on waiters, robertson
Green is a capable dude to defend as much as possible RW
Our second unit is way stronger than theirs even tho west/diaw pairing is an issue
...

[I. Hustle]

I don't understand....Spurs were winning throughout mostly the whole game intill the end and and blew the lead....Its not like the spurs got blown out.....Even with the spurs leading the they were not really in sync ......Spurs still have room for improvement .....Just wait intill the spurs get it together and start to gel.....Spurs are going to get better...

I cant' wate intill you're next post.

[Brazil]

Hot damn Kawhi was playing like a beast. I hope dude keeps it up and gets an all star appearance.

I think the game went better than I expected it to. The Thunders have had some time to play together in meaningful games and LA and D West just needed to get that real game out of the way. The more they play the better they will fit in.

I don't count the pre season games for them because Pop was trying to see who he was going to keep out of all the D leaguers. LOL @ letting them all go anyway.

don't forget also it was the first time, Boris played meaningful minutes of the season

[ceperez]

Agreed.
I'm normally a glass half empty kind of guy- but after last night I'm looking at things as half full.
Our old guys looked good (even Tony). Boris is in decent shape, LaMarcus has bought into the system (passing playing D). It needs to be tweaked but not bad..
OKC in addition to being a top 4 team they are a match up problem for the Spurs.

Pop was just going through the motions in this game. No real fancy substitutions.

It is of course obvious where OKC weakness is. Just post up Kevin Durant. Let him work on defense and tire him out.

As far as Westbrook, Duncan knows how to anticipate his drives, so you just have a guy like Green lock him up at the perimeter.

[I. Hustle]

don't forget also it was the first time, Boris played meaningful minutes of the season

Yeah. I am not worried about this game. I think it will only get better by next the Nets game. Pop just needed some video and something to yell at them about.

The only thing that made me mad was Danny's 3 point shot with a million seconds left on the shot clock.

[Kawhi 5-0]

I'd be more worried if the nuggets blew the Spurs out by 20

Or the Knicks by 30.

[Kawhi 5-0]

This is my only real concern. If Bobby struggles and cannot be relied on, we have a really big hole at the backup Center position. Our rebounding really falls off with that 2nd unit. OKC is also a great team though with a lot of bigs so we should fair better against most other teams.

Some weird numbers in this game: Diaw had highest PER on the Spurs, but had 0 rebounds. Green was 0 for 5 from 3, but had 8 rebounds.

[Kawhi 5-0]

Spurs had their shot at it. Came down to a couple 50/50 balls that they couldn't come up with...the rebound on Durant's brick, and the awkward bounce off the rim that Aldridge missed after that forced shot from Danny.

Scheduled loss, imo. Still 81 games to right the ship. Defense looked stout, Aldridge looked comfortable, Kawhi beasted, and Duncan and Manu still look to have their legs.

Not worried.

Yeah, those two missed boards were key.

[Kawhi 5-0]

Yeah. I am not worried about this game. I think it will only get better by next the Nets game. Pop just needed some video and something to yell at them about.

The only thing that made me mad was Danny's 3 point shot with a million seconds left on the shot clock.

Haha! Yeah, maybe Pop just needed some legit footage for film session. You're right about that last shot. The plan may have been to go for 3. The plan may have been to take an early shot. But I can't imagine the plan was to take an early, contested 3. Pop looked confused...like, "What just happened?" Maybe not the best decision by Green. Gotta give Adams credit for a nice recovery though.

[Brazil]

Haha! Yeah, maybe Pop just needed some legit footage for film session. You're right about that last shot. The plan may have been to go for 3. The plan may have been to take an early shot. But I can't imagine the plan was to take an early, contested 3. Pop looked confused...like, "What just happened?" Maybe not the best decision by Green. Gotta give Adams credit for a nice recovery though.

Green took a fucked up shot but put also a bit of blame on LMA... dude had the rebound, should have been an easy tip in to tie with 16 sec to go

[JWest596]

Fire Pop, Trade Tim, LMA, Kawhi, et al.....rebuild. The season's over. Keep Parker

[TD 21]

Diaw/West was horribly undersized and got murdered, should have put Marjanovic in. The starters didn't finish well but the bench unit consistently gave up leads.

In fairness to them, there is no other Kanter types in the league, off the bench (that could change, depending on the Timberwolves' big rotation when Pekovic returns). Some might say Motiejunas, but he's more finesse than power oriented, in the post and he's not the rebounder Kanter is.

Marjanovic wasn't even active and even if he was, he has zero chance at usurping either, even in specific match-ups. The only meaningful minutes he'll get, will be when they're either giving one of the rotation bigs a game off or when one is injured.

As I said in the summer, going away from the Diaw/West pairing isn't as simple as many seem to think and they'll probably only be limited/abolished against a few select opponents/in the playoffs.

This is why the West signing was bittersweet. On the one hand, they couldn't have possibly gotten a better fourth big for the minimum. On the other hand, he's a poor fit and too credible a name to where they'll limit him to spot minutes.

[SAGirl]

As I said in the summer, going away from the Diaw/West pairing isn't as simple as many seem to think and they'll probably only be limited/abolished against a few select opponents/in the playoffs.

This is why the West signing was bittersweet. On the one hand, they couldn't have possibly gotten a better fourth big for the minimum. On the other hand, he's a poor fit and too credible a name to where they'll limit him to spot minutes.

I agree with this on West. Terrific player and we could not have gotten anyone better for what he took to be here, but his fit is not the best in the second unit. He is similar to Diaw in size/rebounding/defense tools, but you can't trade Diaw out, bc Diaw in many ways is the engine of that bench, at times more so than Ginobili. Without Diaw in it, the bench would not perform as well as it does. What we need West to provide, he's not the best at. he's playing out of position and it showed, in this game, and possibly against others. There are the Bismark Biyombo, Tristan Thomsons of the world. Many young bigs make their mark as hustle/rebounder guys and even if they are not as talented as West, if they consistently get OBoards or easy shots at the rim, it will become a problem. He also didn't seem like the best big in the small ball style the bench played.

The really experimental lineup was the Boban,Diaw,Kyle lineup. In preseason we tried an even lesser lineup with Rasual Butler instead of Diaw, and still they did very well. Granted, it was preseason, and OKC is a very tough team, and Kanter/Adams are offensive/defensive big men who have started in this league and quite good at their particular strengths. But it feels like if you want to go full perimeter to get the better of them, the Diaw/West combo isn't it. Make them come out and guard Anderson and Diaw, make them deal with Boban inside. That is a really unproven proposition but if you want to truly go perimeter, go all in. The Diaw/West combo isn't fast or perimeter enough to punish big lineups and they get murdered inside by big men with size/hustle. I wouldn't even call them fully a perimeter lineup. Food for thought.

[TD 21]

I agree with this on West. Terrific player and we could not have gotten anyone better for what he took to be here, but his fit is not the best in the second unit. He is similar to Diaw in size/rebounding/defense tools, but you can't trade Diaw out, bc Diaw in many ways is the engine of that bench, at times more so than Ginobili. Without Diaw in it, the bench would not perform as well as it does. What we need West to provide, he's not the best at. he's playing out of position and it showed, in this game, and possibly against others. There are the Bismark Biyombo, Tristan Thomsons of the world. Many young bigs make their mark as hustle/rebounder guys and even if they are not as talented as West, if they consistently get OBoards or easy shots at the rim, it will become a problem. He also didn't seem like the best big in the small ball style the bench played.

The really experimental lineup was the Boban,Diaw,Kyle lineup. In preseason we tried an even lesser lineup with Rasual Butler instead of Diaw, and still they did very well. Granted, it was preseason, and OKC is a very tough team, and Kanter/Adams are offensive/defensive big men who have started in this league and quite good at their particular strengths. But it feels like if you want to go full perimeter to get the better of them, the Diaw/West combo isn't it. Make them come out and guard Anderson and Diaw, make them deal with Boban inside. That is a really unproven proposition but if you want to truly go perimeter, go all in. The Diaw/West combo isn't fast or perimeter enough to punish big lineups and they get murdered. I wouldn't even call them fully a perimeter lineup. Food for thought.

Since Baynes is a low IQ player, I'm not a fan, but in an ideal world, his type would have been a perfect fourth big on this team. A roller, solid rebounder, serviceable enough defender (considering the role) and a guy without clout or the expectation of playing more than true fourth big minutes most games or being in the playoff rotation.

West is obviously better than Hansbrough, but he's as miscast playing center as him and the Raptors got murdered with a similarly limited Patterson-Hansbrough backup big combo last season.

Obviously, the Spurs are a much better team and they'll win a lot of games just based on that, but in the grand scheme of things, if the top three bigs stay relatively healthy, West may hurt more than help.

[SAGirl]

Since Baynes is a low IQ player, I'm not a fan, but in an ideal world, his type would have been a perfect fourth big on this team. A roller, solid rebounder, serviceable enough defender (considering the role) and a guy without clout or the expectation of playing more than true fourth big minutes most games or being in the playoff rotation.

West is obviously better than Hansbrough, but he's as miscast playing center as him and the Raptors got murdered with a similarly limited Patterson-Hansbrough backup big combo last season.

Obviously, the Spurs are a much better team and they'll win a lot of games just based on that, but in the grand scheme of things, if the top three bigs stay relatively healthy, West may hurt more than help.
ha ha. Great minds think alike. I am with you on Baynes. Low IQ player but I actually liked what he provided for the bench. He was tough, he set hard screens, he rolled to the hoop with intention and was a serviceable 4th big. He was strong enough to box out hard. He would not get the board himself necessarily but the hustle/rebounder guy on the other team was effectively out of the play, and he could hit the occasional mid-range jumpshot. He would not make the cute extra pass, but he would take the shot without hesitation if he was open and got a nice percentage on those shots last year. He was turning into a nice roleplayer for us. His playing time depended entirely on how well he performed on the rebounding and defensive department and he knew it.

West should be better, but I watched him, and he sometimes doesn't even box out at all. It's like he loses track of his man entirely. You may think I am kidding, but Anderson has better rebound fundamentals. He boxes out his man every time if the guy has the intention to grab an O board. He's skinny unfortunately and a kid still, but most of the time he has track of his guy and knows to box him out. West has been very disappointing in that department.

It will be rehashed. I hope Pop gives some minutes to Boban here or there. I would rather see some Boban, than some Bonner TBH. Neither would have played in this game regardless, but Boban at least has potential to provide something the bench needs in rim protection.

[Spurtacular]

I had work late. I tuned in at about 5 min mark with the Spurs up 97-96 after an OKC score; and it didn't feel right. OKC did their best to allow us to win though.

[tenbeersbold]

Okc was bailed out by the refs two distinct times in the 2nd half,along with swallowing the whistles on behalf of the Spurs.It was predictable,as soon as the Spurs pushed ahead by 7 pts or so,OKC got whistles.Fucking sports entertainment

[moisaenz]

this is it... this team is bound for doom.. let's tank..

[TD 21]

ha ha. Great minds think alike. I am with you on Baynes. Low IQ player but I actually liked what he provided for the bench. He was tough, he set hard screens, he rolled to the hoop with intention and was a serviceable 4th big. He was strong enough to box out hard. He would not get the board himself necessarily but the hustle/rebounder guy on the other team was effectively out of the play, and he could hit the occasional mid-range jumpshot. He would not make the cute extra pass, but he would take the shot without hesitation if he was open and got a nice percentage on those shots last year. He was turning into a nice roleplayer for us. His playing time depended entirely on how well he performed on the rebounding and defensive department and he knew it.

West should be better, but I watched him, and he sometimes doesn't even box out at all. It's like he loses track of his man entirely. You may think I am kidding, but Anderson has better rebound fundamentals. He boxes out his man every time if the guy has the intention to grab an O board. He's skinny unfortunately and a kid still, but most of the time he has track of his guy and knows to box him out. West has been very disappointing in that department.

It will be rehashed. I hope Pop gives some minutes to Boban here or there. I would rather see some Boban, than some Bonner TBH. Neither would have played in this game regardless, but Boban at least has potential to provide something the bench needs in rim protection.

Whether Marjanovic outplays West or not, West is not being dropped from the rotation. Pop might ultimately limit his time next to Diaw and thereby his overall minutes (at least based on the match-up), but he won't go away from him entirely. He'd go down to three big before he'd insert Marjanovic into the rotation.

Marjanovic was brought in for depth/insurance and to see if they can develop him into the backup C for next season, should he prove worthy of the opportunity and West leave, of course.

[SAGirl]

Whether Marjanovic outplays West or not, West is not being dropped from the rotation. Pop might ultimately limit his time next to Diaw and thereby his overall minutes (at least based on the match-up), but he won't go away from him entirely. He'd go down to three big before he'd insert Marjanovic into the rotation.

Marjanovic was brought in for depth/insurance and to see if they can develop him into the backup C for next season, should he prove worthy of the opportunity and West leave, of course.
Agree with you. I really think West's problem is playing out of position and will need to be staggered or limited in minutes.

[kobyz]

Wait... isn't this typical Spurs behavior... giving away leads after a great focused performance?


Yes and that should be the number 1 something to think about how to fix this!!!!!!!!!!!!

What it takes pop until you start to handle the situation, what? You fucking soft pussy!!

[kobyz]

Losing 7 points lead with very little time left, that horrible pattern by most naive coach of all time continue of course, just so frustrate to be a fan, 20 years of most naive team yet no one will put that man in his place, coach is such a soft ass bitch...


lol rare, how much blind a person can be just cause a coach for some reason gives him a hard on?? Losing big leads, losing late leads, most bizarre loses, most heartbreaking loses happen time after time after time for 20 years with this most naive coach of all time, it is even happened in a title game and yet nobody put him in his place to cause him to change his naive ways... Most successful team? Most underachiever team more currect!!! Thanks to this soft ass bitch!!


It doesn't matter, even if spurs would be twice as good as the other team, pop will always find ways to lose games that should have been won, It's a pattern!!


Wait... isn't this typical Spurs behavior... giving away leads after a great focused performance?


What it takes pop until you start to handle the situation, what? You fucking soft pussy!!

Didn't learn anything from first game of season, pathetic...

[SAGirl]

Visible from the firs game of the season that we needed more Boban less D west. D west agreeing to join the Spus last season leaving so much in Indy was the kiss of death. Without him Pop so I pd have developed Bogan, Dias would not have been allowed to coast... just ughhh so many saw this coming it's not even funny.