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[spursistan]

Getting buttfucked by 30 at home against an Irving-less Cavs on B2B :lmao..I have a sneaky feeling they are going to be quite disappointment record-wise unless they make trade and fix their shooting woes....the team and the core have clearly plateaued..

[HarlemHeat37]

They're always a disappointment, tbh:lol..nostalgia from fans and media that grew up watching conventional teams..

[SuperCam]

King James OWNED the west last year when he had his whole team, tbh, after the NY trades. 14-1 with full team. This ain't new, tbh

[100%duncan]

The Bulls of the West

[spursistan]

The Bulls of the West

[TheCultOfPersonality]

:lol Grizzlies
:lol Still can't shoot and still don't defend the 3 point line
:lol Need shooting, but continues to pursues mediocre at best players who can't shoot.
:lol Matt Barnes getting owned by Richard Jefferson
:lol Mike Conley getting raped by both Mo Williams and Matthew Dellavedova
:lol Jeff Green still sucks
:lol Dave Joerger: W-w-we're going to try to be nasty this season

[spurraider21]

:lol lefty
:lol 90's

:wakeup

[spursistan]

They're always a disappointment, tbh:lol..nostalgia from fans and media that grew up watching conventional teams..
what i meant is their regular season record..they are projected as mid-50s win team; i think they could be struggling to get to 50..Remember last year they got off to fluky start and kept pace with warriors early on before the Jeff Green trade....

[hater]

I can see the Cavs doing this in many cities in the West. Not to mention they had the advantage of this being their 2nd game of the season already and coming of a painful loss.

Don't see what the big deal is.

Cavs are best team in the league and its not close once aIrving comes back. Nobody is taking their ring from them.

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I can see the Cavs doing this in many cities in the West. Not to mention they had the advantage of this being their 2nd game of the season already and coming of a painful loss.

Don't see what the big deal is.

Cavs are best team in the league and its not close once aIrving comes back. Nobody is taking their ring from them.

...Last time they had a ring you took it from them,,,then gave the damn thing back.

[hater]

...Last time they had a ring you took it from them,,,then gave the damn thing back.

When was this?

[spankadelphia]

Our bench is pathetic. No legit bench shooters for 5 years and we go out and trade for Matt Barnes? That's the answer? Chris Wallace should be fired.

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When was this?

Don't even start.

[HarlemHeat37]

what i meant is their regular season record..they are projected as mid-50s win team; i think they could be struggling to get to 50..Remember last year they got off to fluky start and kept pace with warriors early on before the Jeff Green trade....

True..I still think they'll get the 6 seed and 50 wins, though, the bottom of the West is pretty bad after the top 6, tbh..

[UNT Eagles 2016]

True..I still think they'll get the 6 seed and 50 wins, though, the bottom of the West is pretty bad after the top 6, tbh..
1. Warriors, 63–19
2. Clippers, 59–23
3. Rockets, 57–25
4. Thunderefs, 56–26
5. Grizzlies, 53–29
6. Pelicans, 52–30 + TB
7. Spurs, 52–30 - TB
8. Jazz, 44–38 OR Mavs, similar record

tbh

[HarlemHeat37]

^^ Pelicans are ravaged by injuries, they won't get anywhere near 52 wins IMO..

[TheGreatYacht]

When are we going to discuss Fat Gasol being considered a top 10 player, and starting all star games over Cousins who almost single handedly beat the Clips

[spursistan]

:lmao curbstompted by 50 in what should be revenge game for WCSF

[HarlemHeat37]

They have looked deflated, tbh..probably time to make some moves..

[Killakobe81]

They have looked deflated, tbh..probably time to make some moves..

I know it sounds crazy but they could actually use a guy like Swaggy P ... their 3 point shooting is horrible so they get NO spacing for their bigs. Sad thing is as shitty as LAkers have been this year Young has been our best player outside of Randle.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ya, they have needed shooting and a secondary perimeter creator for years, but the elephant in the room is Randolph..he's a huge liability on defense, which means he needs to put up around 20 on the other end to negate it, which he can no longer do vs. defenders like Draymond..

[Raven]

good move trading rudy gay :lmao

[Killakobe81]

Ya, they have needed shooting and a secondary perimeter creator for years, but the elephant in the room is Randolph..he's a huge liability on defense, which means he needs to put up around 20 on the other end to negate it, which he can no longer do vs. defenders like Draymond..

I must say I am really curious to see if Draymond can hold up vs. spurs front-line. Bogut will take Tim and be solid but can Green stop LMA? And if they go small can Barnes check LMA? Iggy will also have to match up with Kiwi. I think the most interesting matchups would be the big 4 Gstate, LAC, OKC and SAS With rox just outside of that once healthy. I know people are dismissing seeding but you are right after the top 5 the West is mediocre. Getting the 1/8 and winner of 4/5 is part of why the Dubs were "lucky" last year. 1 seed will have a good advantage on the field ...though Cavs will have it even easier.

[apalisoc_9]

I must say I am really curious to see if Draymond can hold up vs. spurs front-line. Bogut will take Tim and be solid but can Green stop LMA? And if they go small can Barnes check LMA? Iggy will also have to match up with Kiwi. I think the most interesting matchups would be the big 4 Gstate, LAC, OKC and SAS With rox just outside of that once healthy. I know people are dismissing seeding but you are right after the top 5 the West is mediocre. Getting the 1/8 and winner of 4/5 is part of why the Dubs were "lucky" last year. 1 seed will have a good advantage on the field ...though Cavs will have it even easier.

Draymonf is short but hes oK lk against most bigs. He does well enough against Davis. I guess against the spurs, their starting lineup should be good enough to beat the addition of aldridge. I dont know draymond number against aldridge, but its probably not too bad. Draymond usually just gives away jumpers to bigs that can shoot. I think he does it on purpose.

[hater]

Zbo gasol pairing has been beat to death tbh.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I must say I am really curious to see if Draymond can hold up vs. spurs front-line. Bogut will take Tim and be solid but can Green stop LMA? And if they go small can Barnes check LMA? Iggy will also have to match up with Kiwi. I think the most interesting matchups would be the big 4 Gstate, LAC, OKC and SAS With rox just outside of that once healthy. I know people are dismissing seeding but you are right after the top 5 the West is mediocre. Getting the 1/8 and winner of 4/5 is part of why the Dubs were "lucky" last year. 1 seed will have a good advantage on the field ...though Cavs will have it even easier.

Don't think the LMA vs Draymond matchup would be the most decisive one. If LMA's shot is falling then Green can't do much to stop him, but it still wouldn't be enough to beat GS because someone has to match the Curry/Thompson production. Kawhi can do some of it but someone else would have to step up and Parker can no longer be that guy. I think the Spurs would try to take Thompson away, like they tried with Reddick, as he's not exactly a proven playoff performer. Still, GS seem like the clear favourite currently.

[spankadelphia]

The Grizz are in a tough spot. They owe two future 1st round picks so they can't exactly just blow it up.

It's amazing to me that Chris Wallace essentially made no moves this off season. Teams that were already better than us made moves or at least attempted to improve their rosters and we simply stood pat. Wallace must think we're fucking Golden State or something. Should have entertained any and all trade offers for anyone not named Gasol or Conley. Pera made a huge mistake putting CW back in charge of the FO. He should be looking over his shoulder and worrying about his job security instead of worrying about how much General Tso's he's going to stuff on his plate at the next buffet.

[spursistan]

Marcol Gasol acting soft and never brandishing a threat to leave Grizzlies in his free agency shows, unlike Pau, how not ambitious enough he is about winning a Championships..He's stuck in Bulls situation without the big market and in a cut-throat conference..I mean, seriously, a FO thinking an overrated borderline cancer like Jeff Green and and a done Vince Carter are going to take them to the next level :lol..

[spankadelphia]

Small time city, small time franchise, small time management. They care more about selling yellow towels and Grindfather T-shirts than they do making sure we don't lose any more draft picks.

[ElNono]

maybe Hollinger needs a new calculator, tbh

[Robz4000]

Don't think the LMA vs Draymond matchup would be the most decisive one. If LMA's shot is falling then Green can't do much to stop him, but it still wouldn't be enough to beat GS because someone has to match the Curry/Thompson production. Kawhi can do some of it but someone else would have to step up and Parker can no longer be that guy. I think the Spurs would try to take Thompson away, like they tried with Reddick, as he's not exactly a proven playoff performer. Still, GS seem like the clear favourite currently.

Over the past few matchups Kawhi has all but taken Thompson out of the game, limiting him to less than 10 points while Green has done well enough on Curry (something like 18 PPG iirc, maybe closer to 20). If Kawhi and Green can combine for 30+ points on the other end the rest of the team can easily outscore GS. The main issues will come down to health (like usual) and whether or not Pop tries to let Parker guard Curry from the get-go.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

:lol lost by 50

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Over the past few matchups Kawhi has all but taken Thompson out of the game, limiting him to less than 10 points while Green has done well enough on Curry (something like 18 PPG iirc, maybe closer to 20). If Kawhi and Green can combine for 30+ points on the other end the rest of the team can easily outscore GS. The main issues will come down to health (like usual) and whether or not Pop tries to let Parker guard Curry from the get-go.
Parker on Curry :lol one high screen, easy 3, chest bumps, etc

[spursistan]

:lol losing by 20 to this Blazers team..Some rumblings about Joerger position could be in jeopardy by mid season, which is pathetic, tbh..It is roster/talent issue, first and foremost..

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[spankadelphia]

Chris Wallace is the one that needs to be fired. He has botched every single draft he's been apart of.

And yeah, it's time to blow this sucker up.

[spursistan]

Here it is..A Marc Stein sources confirm that Joerger will be in the hotseat soon if this slow start persists and that Owner Robert Pera may reach out to hire Thibs..


Joerger’s “old” comment, meanwhile, reads like a thinly veiled critique of the recent choices from Memphis’ front-office tag team of Chris Wallace and John Hollinger, from trades (Jeff Green (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3209/jeff-green)) and signings (Vince Carter (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/136/vince-carter) and Matt Barnes (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1765/matt-barnes)) that haven’t had the desired effect to the drafting of Adams over Rodney Hood (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2581177/rodney-hood) to a longstanding need for more shooting that persists.
The biggest source of vulnerability for Joerger, of course, is the fact that Pera has internally questioned Joerger's leadership in the past and nearly fired him once before, only to patch things up in a stunning about-face in May 2014 when Joerger, deep in talks with the Minnesota Timberwolves (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/min/minnesota-timberwolves), got a new three-year contract. Another potential complication: Pera is known to be a huge fan of Tom Thibodeau, has pursued him before and could be moved to make a run at Thibs before someone else does.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/4048/son-of-weekend-dime

[LkrFan]

They're always a disappointment, tbh :lol..nostalgia from fans and media that grew up watching conventional teams..

Not always: http://www.nba.com/playoffs/2011/westseries1/

:rollin :lmao :rollin

[HarlemHeat37]

Not always: http://www.nba.com/playoffs/2011/westseries1/

:rollin :lmao :rollin

They weren't expected to win that series, Jose..

[TheCultOfPersonality]

I'm not a fan of Dave Joerger, but I'm not a fan of Thibs either.

But Chris Wallace does need to be the first to go.

[LkrFan]

They weren't expected to win that series, Jose..:lol

[spursistan]

At what point would should they consider blowing it up? tbh

[SpursIndonesia]

At what point would should they consider blowing it up? tbh

Will gladly take Courtney Lee off their roster, tbh.

[spursistan]

need to avoid them at all costs :lmao
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[Raven]

Dat rudy gay trade lol

[Raven]

Will gladly take Courtney Lee off their roster, tbh.

Bleh

[DMC]

Getting rid of Hollins was a mistake. It made no sense.

[spankadelphia]

It's got nothing to do with Joerger or Hollins, just like Golden State's 24-0 record has nothing to do with Josh Pastner's butt buddy Luke Walton. It's a player's league. Grit and Grind has been ground to a halt.

[tonight...you]

It's got nothing to do with Joerger or Hollins, just like Golden State's 24-0 record has nothing to do with Josh Pastner's butt buddy Luke Walton. It's a player's league. Grit and Grind has been ground to a halt.
True. Age is catching up to this team faster than the Spurs.
ZBo looks even slower than ever as does Gasol and Allen is slowing too.

They are going to have to make some major moves in the next year- two at the max to remain competitive.

[spursistan]

I wonder if they max out Conley in free agency..he has been sort of underwhelming this season and has probably hit his ceiling at 28 yo..If i were Memphis, i would try to find something on the cheap and upgrade the roster in other areas..something has to be drastically shaken up there..

[tonight...you]

I wonder if they max out Conley in free agency..he has been sort of underwhelming this season and has probably hit his ceiling at 28 yo..If i were Memphis, i would try to find something on the cheap and upgrade the roster in other areas..something has to be drastically shaken up there..
I am a big fan of Conley, but that team needs to do some real hard staring at the mirror and be honest with themselves.
They are not a contender unless an unprecedented amount of injuries happen throughout the league.

They aren't even close.

They need to move some guys they might have considered untouchable to change the dynamic of them as a whole and provide themselves with an avenue of progress, not stagnation.

[spursistan]

I am a big fan of Conley, but that team needs to do some real hard staring at the mirror and be honest with themselves.
They are not a contender unless an unprecedented amount of injuries happen throughout the league.

They aren't even close.

They need to move some guys they might have considered untouchable to change the dynamic of them as a whole and provide themselves with an avenue of progress, not stagnation.
they are similar to the Jazz of D' Will-Boozer of late 2000s..one lucky-ish trip to WCF but never good enough to challenge Lakers..That team ended up disbanding and rebuilding..Conley is a very solid PG but he doesn't have an elite feature that makes him untouchable while nearing his 30s..I think letting go of him isn't that risky of a quasi-rebuilding strategy.."Gasol + fill in the roster" should be the summer forward thinking move..

[spankadelphia]

The fact is the FO sent out multiple future first round draft picks in "win now" moves the last few years, and now we are staring at a rebuild. Not a good situation to be in for a small market franchise.

[tonight...you]

they are similar to the Jazz of D' Will-Boozer of late 2000s..one lucky-ish trip to WCF but never good enough to challenge Lakers..That team ended up disbanding and rebuilding..Conley is a very solid PG but he doesn't have an elite feature that makes him untouchable while nearing his 30s..I think letting go of him isn't that risky of a quasi-rebuilding strategy.."Gasol + fill in the roster" should be the summer forward thinking move..
I can definitely see (and not argue with) this happening.
The fans will probably consider that era a failure, but really they did great for a good, long time with what they had, in totality.
Their climb is definitely uphill from here.

[tonight...you]

The fact is the FO sent out multiple future first round draft picks in "win now" moves the last few years, and now we are staring at a rebuild. Not a good situation to be in for a small market franchise.
I feel for you brother. It's a tough thing to have a team that's borderline in contender-type talent and also age.
You want to do everything you can to get past that hump, but the risk is an utter collapse looming.
The Spurs have walked that line better than any team I have ever seen for many years and a lot of that has to be attributed to luck on top of the endless work the team puts in.

Memphis looks like they don't have that kind of luck right now.

Good luck going forward friend. I've always liked your team.

[Raven]

laughably, their last pick that panned out, was mike conley in 2007. And they even passed on guys like kevin love to get oj mayo, harden curry and others to pick thabeet, bledsoe, bradley, whiteside to pick xavier henry, draymond green, kris middleton to pick tony wroten and so on. i don't know if they suck more at developing or drafting, but that's that.

[tonight...you]

laughably, their last pick that panned out, was mike conley in 2007. And they even passed on guys like kevin love to get oj mayo, harden curry and others to pick thabeet, bledsoe, bradley, whiteside to pick xavier henry, draymond green, kris middleton to pick tony wroten and so on. i don't know if they suck more at developing or drafting, but that's that.
Probably both, like 90% of the teams out there.

[spursistan]

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they have been slipping at a fast rate in what is the basic element of 'Grit'n Grind' without compensating on the other end...the core got old and this pretty natural result for standing pat..

[Dex]

Getting rid of Hollins was a mistake. It made no sense.

Some GMs looking really stupid at this point.

Hollins got Memphis to perennially over-achieve and got canned after reaching the WCF, and they haven't made it past round 2 since. Houston did the same with McHale who, despite his obvious defensive limitations, still got a lot done with that oft-injured Rockets club.

The changeup in Houston riled up the team for what...2 games? Now they continue to look like garbage, and the same thing is going to happen in Memphis. Thibs may fit their "grind-game" philosophy, but he still has the same old and tired roster to work with.

[spursistan]

:wow

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The classic scapegoat move that won't change anything in big picture..

[spankadelphia]

Joerger is a good coach. He's being thrown under the bus. Minnesota should snatch him up.