The Thunder went to Dion Waiters in the clutch...

[FkLA]

and they have Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook on their team.

In other words whoever is guarded by Rique is a better offensive option than two of the Top 5 players in the game. Rique is the weak link.

[RD2191]

Dude is just a shit defender. Not his fault tbh but damn, Spurs need some youth at the PG position.

[dabom]

and they have Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook on their team.

In other words whoever is guarded by Rique is a better offensive option than two of the Top 5 players in the game. Rique is the weak link.

WOW :wow




Piece of shit dion waiters is the better 1vs1 option with 2 top 5 players in the league(1 MVP). :lmao

[MI21]

Tony Parker is a below average NBA defender.

I have yet to hear this discussed on SpursTalk, thanks man.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Embarrassing

[KL2]

Tony Parker is a below average NBA defender.

I have yet to hear this discussed on SpursTalk, thanks man.

Below average is far too generous, he just may be the worst defender in the league this year, he was close last year.

[dabom]

Below average is far too generous, he just may be the worst defender in the league this year, he was close last year.

[FkLA]

Tony Parker is a below average NBA defender.

I have yet to hear this discussed on SpursTalk, thanks man.

below average is putting it generously

He is one of the worst 5 defenders in the league. You know you suck when they go at you with a bench player over KD and Russ.

[Arcadian]

Dude is just a shit defender. Not his fault tbh but damn, Spurs need some youth at the PG position.

They have Ray McCallum, fwiw

[jag]

Spurs need some youth at the PG position.

Solid take. You're in midseason form.

Patty Mills - 27
Ray McCallum - 24

[Ice009]

Solid take. You're in midseason form.

Patty Mills - 27
Ray McCallum - 24

Neither are true PGs.

[jag]

Neither are true PGs.

True PG? Oh you mean like Avery Johnson?

[dabom]

Didn't know tony was a true pg. :lmao

[jag]

"True PG"

unlike Tony, Westbrook, Curry...

This isn't the 90's, PGs score.

[FkLA]

isame pos who wouldnt put up and arm to defend a bottle flying to his head, what makes you think he put an arm to play defense?

:lol

[Mikeanaro]

We need an athletic true PG in the likes of Stockton/CP3/Laimbeer.

[K...]

So Tony isn't as good as green, and kawhi. Got it..Will reevaluate my life based upon this mammoth revelation. Big changes will happen.

[K...]

We need an athletic true PG in the likes of Stockton/CP3/Laimbeer.

Ok, let's just dial up a hof hotline and ask them to send us an all time great.

[DarrinS]

and they have Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook on their team.

In other words whoever is guarded by Rique is a better offensive option than two of the Top 5 players in the game. Rique is the weak link.


TP has never been a good defender, but it was easily overlooked when he could beat people to the rim.

[Mikeanaro]

lol letting cory joseph go...not a good ballhandler and decision make, but dude had no ego problems, can play defense, feed the ball to the hot hand and attack the rim or pull up for a jumper...

spurs fail
And now Cory seems to play great without pressure and out of Enrique shadow.

[Mikeanaro]

Ok, let's just dial up a hof hotline and ask them to send us an all time great.
Done, but I want him in mint condition and a return policy is required.

[rudwick]

We need an athletic true PG in the likes of Stockton/CP3/Laimbeer.
Yeah, that Laimbeer was an athletic little SOB.

[Mikeanaro]

Yeah, that Laimbeer was an athletic little SOB.
:lmao

[sasaint]

TP has never been a good defender, but it was easily overlooked when he could beat people to the rim.

No quicks to the hoop, no floater make no D a lot more obvious. No decent O for D trade-off makes Parker a net liability. I thought his floater and his mid-range game were money, but those floaters float like a butterfly and land like a brick these days.

[MI21]

below average is putting it generously

He is one of the worst 5 defenders in the league. You know you suck when they go at you with a bench player over KD and Russ.

I don't disagree, but this isn't anything that hasn't been discussed ad nauseam. He is overmatched defensively most of the time.

But... Waiters made a few jumpshots, good for him.. Despite him being a bench player there is no doubt that he is a somewhat talented isolation scorer and tbh, a lot of PG's defender a swingman like Waiters would have given up the same looks to him and it's down to whether he makes them or not. Tip your hat and move on.

But I do agree this is going to be an issue and there is going to be some situations where the opposition puts out these all offense lineups in the clutch and Pop is going to have to figure out his lineups when this happens.

[Mikeanaro]

8m vs 13m .... spurs failed big time

pop fails at telling enrique or subbing him off cause he doesnt want to hurt his ego, it was the perfect opportunity to let him go instead gives pos a loyalty contract for basically doing nothing in t he last 3 years...
And kills the whole purpose of building a great team by having a fat pseudo mexican PG who cant defend nor score, agreed this is on Pops.

[Ice009]

8m vs 13m .... spurs failed big time

pop fails at telling enrique or subbing him off cause he doesnt want to hurt his ego, it was the perfect opportunity to let him go instead gives pos a loyalty contract for basically doing nothing in t he last 3 years...

That contract stinks. I hate seeing it every time it's brought up. They should have waited to see how he played last season. They had to option to do so, but I have no idea why they didn't.

[james evans]

Tony Parker is a below average NBA defender.

I have yet to hear this discussed on SpursTalk, thanks man.
BELOW AVERAGE???? HE FUCKING SUCKS!!!

[sasaint]

Tony Parker is a below average NBA defender.

I have yet to hear this discussed on SpursTalk, thanks man.

:lol Please, no sarcasm on ST. :lol

[MI21]

BELOW AVERAGE???? HE FUCKING SUCKS!!!

Please, you seem like someone with great ability to analyse basketball. Can you share with me your thoughts on other Spurs players defensive abilities, I truly believe you have a great eye and can really break it down for me.

[apalisoc_9]

ive been calling this pos out from day 1 and u clowns still g ive him the benefit of the doubt about his defense

same pos who wouldnt put up and arm to defend a bottle flying to his head, what makes you think he put an arm to play defense?

:lmao

[urunobili]

DJ Augustine > Patty

[LongtimeSpursFan]

I don't disagree, but this isn't anything that hasn't been discussed ad nauseam. He is overmatched defensively most of the time.

But... Waiters made a few jumpshots, good for him.. Despite him being a bench player there is no doubt that he is a somewhat talented isolation scorer and tbh, a lot of PG's defender a swingman like Waiters would have given up the same looks to him and it's down to whether he makes them or not. Tip your hat and move on.

But I do agree this is going to be an issue and there is going to be some situations where the opposition puts out these all offense lineups in the clutch and Pop is going to have to figure out his lineups when this happens.

Any opposing coach would happily take a jump shot from a role player instead of a play from their superstar. It's risky play calling because if it doesn't work then players are going to turn on coach.

[FkLA]

DJ Augustine > Patty


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0v57JKPRDE

[cjw]

The real issue is Mills sucks defensively too unless he's drawing charges. This is where the team misses a guy like CoJo (though he was too expensive to keep) when leading down the stretch.

Slightly off topic, but Anderson also sucks defensively. Total liability out there with his speed.

[Clipper Nation]

same pos who wouldnt put up and arm to defend a bottle flying to his head, what makes you think he put an arm to play defense?

http://i.imgur.com/XbNz4u4.gif

[james evans]

Please, you seem like someone with great ability to analyse basketball. Can you share with me your thoughts on other Spurs players defensive abilities, I truly believe you have a great eye and can really break it down for me.
So you're saying parker can actually defend someone? If so, who. Reggie Jackson used to kill him. Mccallum killed him. Mills in practice probably is told to hold back from giving him 20 on the regular. He simply can't guard anyone. David West played like shit defensively tonight too.

[FkLA]

I don't disagree, but this isn't anything that hasn't been discussed ad nauseam. He is overmatched defensively most of the time.

But... Waiters made a few jumpshots, good for him.. Despite him being a bench player there is no doubt that he is a somewhat talented isolation scorer and tbh, a lot of PG's defender a swingman like Waiters would have given up the same looks to him and it's down to whether he makes them or not. Tip your hat and move on.

But I do agree this is going to be an issue and there is going to be some situations where the opposition puts out these all offense lineups in the clutch and Pop is going to have to figure out his lineups when this happens.

You make some valid points. Still, it's pretty frustrating that going at Rique is considered a better option than giving the ball to KD/Russ. Just emphasizes just how much Rique sucks. You're right that it shouldn't be a surprise though...I remember when that retard Mark Jackson was able to win a playoff game in SA by going at Rique with Harrison Barnes for the entire 4th Qtr. Wingstop of course was busy shutting down Curry/Thompson.

[james evans]

Any opposing coach would happily take a jump shot from a role player instead of a play from their superstar. It's risky play calling because if it doesn't work then players are going to turn on coach.
nothing is risky with parker guarding a man 1 on 1. That shit is damn near automatic. He offers no resistance. And the shit is like that on nba2k. I can't even hide him on defense on the game. Guys online always find him and destroy him

[BatManu20]

Parker's defense is awful, and it's only accentuated by the fact that he was defending Russell Westbrook, who's the best slasher in the entire league. This alone why OKC is such a nightmare matchup, because of Westbrook vs Parker + their depth of big men.

[FkLA]

Westbrook destroying Rique isn't a big deal. He won't even defend him in the playoffs so that doesn't even matter. It's his propensity to make guys like Dion Waffers, Joey Galloway and Ray McCallum look like Michael Jordan that is the problem.

[apalisoc_9]

Who we playing in the PG position next game? :lol

I am worried

[spurtech09]

They have Ray McCallum, fwiwI would like to see what Ray can do....

[SupremeGuy]

They went to whoever TP was guarding...

Dammit and that's cause he had a decent game but fuck his defense killed us.

[HI-FI]

8m vs 13m .... spurs failed big time

pop fails at telling enrique or subbing him off cause he doesnt want to hurt his ego, it was the perfect opportunity to let him go instead gives pos a loyalty contract for basically doing nothing in t he last 3 years...
truth bombs but Pop sees Rique as a son.

If teams continue to exploit the chucker might as well put that nig McCallum or Patty out there.

[SpursBig3s]

Omg... ITS THE FIRST GAME

[MI21]

You make some valid points. Still, it's pretty frustrating that going at Rique is considered a better option than giving the ball to KD/Russ. Just emphasizes just how much Rique sucks. You're right that it shouldn't be a surprise though...I remember when that retard Mark Jackson was able to win a playoff game in SA by going at Rique with Harrison Barnes for the entire 4th Qtr. Wingstop of course was busy shutting down Curry/Thompson.

Yeah and this is where the coach needs to come up with some solutions to these issues. Sometimes it is going to be better leaving Parker on the star player and offering extra help and living with those results. You would much rather Dion Waters spotting up and shooting versus isolating a weak defender, that is his strength.

[urunobili]

:lol Please, no sarcasm on ST. :lol

Avatar from my hometown? wtf

[TheDoctor]

And kills the whole purpose of building a great team by having a fat pseudo mexican PG who cant defend nor score, agreed this is on Pops.

:rollin :lmao

[kawhidoyoudothistome]

Someone put on here that we wanted Waiters taking those shots, and that's correct. Nice to know that we scared them into not giving the rock to Durant, who was getting beasted on all game. Denied Westbrook as well. Good overall smart decision, scrub got lucky as shit. Move on.

[Brazil]

:lmao

I was looking for the daily thread where the krew would suck each other... I found it :lol

:cheer

[sasaint]

Avatar from my hometown? wtf

Used es de Punta del Este?

[jermaine]

It was just a simple good chest move by the coach at the right time. Nothing more, nothing less. Season just started. Its chest guys, not checkers!

[Agloco]

Neither are true PGs.

They don't really make those anymore tbh.

[Canyonero]

Yes, he sucks at defense.

[I. Hustle]

It was just a simple good chest move by the coach at the right time. Nothing more, nothing less. Season just started. Its chest guys, not checkers!

I love chest moves. Like when they jiggle a little bit when chicks are running? Or when they are bouncing in front of your face . Those are the best kind of chest moves.

[urunobili]

Used es de Punta del Este?

Si. Me crié ahí.

[I. Hustle]

Si. Me crié ahí.

Meias suor na porta significa que eu estou

[JeffDuncan]

And now Cory seems to play great without pressure and out of Enrique shadow.

Great??

Cory Joseph vs Pacers last night: minutes 27:43, points 3, turnovers 3, assists 1, rebounds 2.

Get a grip, people.

[td4mvp2k]

Dude is just a shit defender. Not his fault tbh but damn, Spurs need some youth at the PG position.:( cojo still a FA?

[snickles]

Yeah, that Laimbeer was an athletic little SOB.

obviously he meant Laettner.

[Mikeanaro]

obviously he meant Laettner.
Bill Laimbeer, greatest point guard ever.

[Mikeanaro]

Great??

Cory Joseph vs Pacers last night: minutes 27:43, points 3, turnovers 3, assists 1, rebounds 2.

Get a grip, people.
Had a couple of great games in the preseason thats more than Enrique can offer right now, tbh.

[KL2]

Someone put on here that we wanted Waiters taking those shots, and that's correct. Nice to know that we scared them into not giving the rock to Durant, who was getting beasted on all game. Denied Westbrook as well. Good overall smart decision, scrub got lucky as shit. Move on.

At this point it's not just a matter of a scrub going off, players know Parker is the weak link and are going at him. McCallum, Galloway, Rivers, Peyton, etc. all exposed him last year and it looks like the same thing this year. He needs to be replaced asap.

The Spurs even have a history of combo guards and pg's going off against them, and it was generally Parker's man. Duncan used to cover up most of the team's defensive flaws, but with his decline Parker is being exposed out there.

[jermaine]

I love chest moves. Like when they jiggle a little bit when chicks are running? Or when they are bouncing in front of your face . Those are the best kind of chest moves.

Lmmfao, shut up. You know what I meant. Chess move!!!

[I. Hustle]

Lmmfao, shut up. You know what I meant. Chess move!!!

Not half as cool as chest moves.