Derrick Rose or Tony Parker [Archive]

FkLA

11-04-2015, 06:18 PM

Rose can be the better role player but he has to accept that he's no longer a star first. Until he does that Rique > Rose.

JohnnyMax

11-04-2015, 06:18 PM

How about a Rose for Parker swap?

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letmk

11-04-2015, 06:22 PM

How about a Rose for Parker swap?

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Which team on the earth would want Rose?

K...

11-04-2015, 06:25 PM

No thanks, but try prigoni and see who bites

Robz4000

11-04-2015, 06:28 PM

I'll stick with Porker tbh.

DarrinS

11-04-2015, 06:33 PM

Porker

dabom

11-04-2015, 06:33 PM

Rose still thinks he's a superstar. Pass. Lol

Kawhitstorm

11-06-2015, 03:43 PM

Don't ever compare Rose to Porker after Rose destroyed the same Anus Kanter than Porker didn't even bother attacking on switches. Rose outplayed Westbrook meanwhile Porker couldn't even outplay Dion Butters:lmao

lefty

11-06-2015, 03:45 PM

Rose is a regular season MVP

Porker won FMVP playing 4 games againt fucking Boobie Gibson :lol

spursistan

11-06-2015, 03:46 PM

Would still take Tony any day....

Kawhitstorm

11-06-2015, 03:47 PM

Rose is a regular season MVP

Porker won FMVP playing 4 games againt fucking Boobie Gibson :lol

Rose on one leg is better than double chin Porker.

Kawhitstorm

11-06-2015, 03:48 PM

Would still take Tony any day....

You would take Tony's dick any day.....it's common knowledge

spurtech09

11-06-2015, 03:50 PM

As of right now I would take Rose...Yes he is injury prone but Rose can play...

spursistan

11-06-2015, 03:51 PM

You would take Tony's dick any day.....it's common knowledge
you know what...that's unfunny...

K...

11-06-2015, 03:52 PM

Rose is a regular season MVP

Porker won FMVP playing 4 games againt fucking Boobie Gibson :lol

Rose on one leg is better than double chin Porker.

These two idiots are using isolated events from their careers. The thread is tosb Parker vs tosb rose. It's an easy call even for a Parker hater.

The career one is a bit less clear, but Parker> rose is the right call.

K...

11-06-2015, 03:53 PM

Rose was, was, was, mvp

apalisoc_9

11-06-2015, 03:58 PM

Porker>Gangbanger

apalisoc_9

11-06-2015, 04:00 PM

Kawhitstorm

11-06-2015, 04:02 PM

Obviously rose is better, but he is a shitty fit imo..he takes way too many shots

He would fit right in w/ the new ISO ball offense & he won an MVP playing w/ Deng/Boozer (Kawhi/LMA). Pop is always scream at his players to shoot....Fuckin' tired of Porker not attacking mismatches & being intimidated by Westbrook or shot blocker such as Ibaka/Jordan. Rose is more Manu that Porker.

Kawhitstorm

11-06-2015, 04:04 PM

These two idiots are using isolated events from their careers. The thread is tosb Parker vs tosb rose. It's an easy call even for a Parker hater.

Idiot, I'm EXACTLY comparing tosb Parker & tosb Rose.

Clipper Nation

11-06-2015, 04:13 PM

Rose on one leg is better than double chin Porker.

Kawhitstorm

11-06-2015, 04:17 PM

The career one is a bit less clear, but Parker> rose is the right call.
:lmao

Head2Head: http://bkref.com/tiny/a5CPF

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beirmeistr

11-06-2015, 05:03 PM

no, yhanks. Rose is a bigger ball hog than parker. Rose yhinks he is kobe.
sorry for typos.

K...

11-06-2015, 07:13 PM

:lmao

Head2Head: http://bkref.com/tiny/a5CPF

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uh so an 8 game sample is determinative? News flash, their careers don't match up. PArker 2004-2015 Rose 2008 - 2015 * sat out 2 yrs like a fucking loser

oh and....

Parker 4 Rose 0

Kawhitstorm

11-06-2015, 07:17 PM

uh so an 8 game sample is determinative? News flash, their careers don't match up. PArker 2004-2015 Rose 2008 - 2015 * sat out 2 yrs like a fucking loser

oh and....

Parker 4 Rose 0

Parker was in his prime when baby Rose destroyed him just like Westbrook abuses him nowadays.

-21-

11-06-2015, 08:11 PM

Rose can be the better role player but he has to accept that he's no longer a star first. Until he does that Rique > Rose.

This. Rose could be an elite role player/3rd option but he is still trying to get back to his MVP level, which is unfortunately not possible.

Parker on the other hand, although a "worse" (for lack of a better word) player than Rose, has accepted a smaller role.

Also, Parker's contract > Rose's contract.

xtremesteven33

11-06-2015, 08:44 PM

I think its a trade that Chicago might want to do, but I dont see the Spurs giving it any thought really due to loyalty to Parker and his corporate knowledge that no other player could learn or ever know. If Pop had the chance to coach Rose on the Spurs, and Rose actually wanted to be coached by Pop. Game Over for the rest of the league.

Ice009

11-06-2015, 08:54 PM

I would seriously consider it if it were on the table. The salaries might be too far off though?

exstatic

11-06-2015, 09:06 PM

Roses knee is on the DWade track with the multiple surgeries already.

SpursIndonesia

11-06-2015, 09:24 PM

Is this a damn cucking thread or what ? Useless discussion.

Now, you bring things like Trey Burke or LaVine for Parker trade discussion to the table - If you are really hell bent for Parker banishment one way or another, then we can go somewhere, at least.

SpursIndonesia

11-06-2015, 09:26 PM

Wishing Rose to become a better human being or at least a better winner is the same as wishing for a unicorn, lol. :lol

gilmor

11-06-2015, 09:27 PM

haha u motherfuckers will be bitching Rose never pass to Kawhi..

xtremesteven33

11-06-2015, 09:43 PM

I personally think Lillard would make a better fit than Rose but thats just a pipedream.

ducks

11-06-2015, 11:19 PM

Rose is averaging 10/5 on 33% FG after 5 games
Parker is averaging 10/3 on 54% FG after 4 games

but tp according to you has the worse nba contract

Kawhitstorm

11-06-2015, 11:23 PM

but tp according to you has the worse nba contract

Rose was playing w/ a fractured orbital, face mask & blurred vision. Porker was playing w/ a pot belly & double chin. Porker got outplayed by Dion Butters meanwhile Rose outplayed Westbrook.

weeks

11-06-2015, 11:27 PM

I personally think Lillard would make a better fit than Rose but thats just a pipedream.
Could you imagine Aldridge's face if we signed Lillard :lol

ducks

11-06-2015, 11:44 PM

Rose was playing w/ a fractured orbital, face mask & blurred vision. Porker was playing w/ a pot belly & double chin. Porker got outplayed by Dion Butters meanwhile Rose outplayed Westbrook.

he is talking about his contract said it was worse in the nba

CGD

11-06-2015, 11:59 PM

I'd definitely kick the tires in two years when his contract is up.

FlAVaK

11-07-2015, 12:08 AM

http://assets.sport1.de/imagix/filter2/jpeg/_set=gallery_item_large/imagix/6c5b6005-7fc0-11e5-acef-f80f41fc6a62

Injured Derrick Rose for Halloween :lmao:lmao:lmao

Othyus Lalanne

11-07-2015, 01:45 AM

Rose still thinks he's a superstar. Pass. Lol

Is he? Parker did not even look like a good Spurs role player this year when playing for France. We have no idea based on the current sample size.

Kawhitstorm

11-07-2015, 02:00 AM

I'd definitely kick the tires in two years when his contract is up.

I'm wondering if they will buy him out next season if they can't trade him just like Nets did w/ Deron Williams but refused to buyout Joe Johnson b/c they still think he has trade value. They did buyout Boozer when they couldn't trade him but that was via the amnesty clause.

Kawhitstorm

11-07-2015, 02:05 AM

he is talking about his contract said it was worse in the nba

Rose got his contract after he won the MVP, Porker's extension kicked in after the worst season of his career.

Johnny RIngo

11-07-2015, 04:12 AM

but tp according to you has the worse nba contract

They're both bad contracts. Rose is owed $40 million over the next two years while TP will make $45 million over the next three. At least the Bulls can be free and clear of their cancer after only two seasons. Spurs will still be stuck with TP for an extra year.

Johnny RIngo

11-07-2015, 04:18 AM

On topic, my preference would be neither. They're both terrible players that are a poor fit for any contender in the modern NBA. At least Rose has the injury excuse on his side but he was never particularly intelligent before he blew out his knees either. And his MVP award was a sham(just like Parker's Finals MVP was a joke). As far as head to head, I remember Rose shitting on Parker nearly every time they played one another when both were in their "primes". Just a really bad matchup for TP as far I recall.

If I was forced to choose one, it'd have to be TP. Current Rose is just awful to watch and one of the mains reasons why Chicago struggles on offense.

cd98

11-07-2015, 08:52 AM

If Rose's body had not broken down, he'd be in the top 10 all time point guard discussions. He was physically imposing to guards like LeBron to 3s and Shaq to 5s. Alas, even if he is better than Parker this year (it's too early to tell with either player) Rose is too much of an injury concern to ever trust, esp at his price tag. Parker has also had nagging injuries, but that's expected at his age and he plays through them. And if people here complain about how much Parker makes, just image Rose.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

11-07-2015, 09:12 AM

PARKER NEVER BEEN A MVP PLAYER

Delusional.

TXstbobcat

11-07-2015, 11:29 AM

Isn't rose due for his yearly season ending injury????

Stabula

11-07-2015, 05:44 PM

PARKER NEVER BEEN A MVP PLAYER

2013 says hello, faggot.

Spurtacular

11-07-2015, 05:49 PM

Mills is my answer. Get this man 30 mpg; and stop pandering to a broken down Frenchie.

Diego20

11-07-2015, 06:00 PM

2013 says hello, faggot.

Went to look how many MVP awards TP had and guess what? found none..

TheMulletMan3000

11-07-2015, 07:19 PM

tony>>>>>rose

BatManu20

11-08-2015, 11:09 AM

Mike Conley, tbh.

daledondale

11-08-2015, 12:11 PM

Mike Conley, tbh.
:lol

kaji157

11-08-2015, 01:18 PM

I´d take Derrick Rose any day of the week.
Shorter contract, younger, has more tools than Parker, and almost the same stats in shitty chicago offense.
Parker is playing alongside 3 players that attract more atention than him, in one of the best offenses in the league.

For me if it really is an option is a no brainer. You´d have a core of Rose, Leonard and Aldridge. And even if Rose is injury prone, Pop would never do a thin like playing him 40 minutes as Thibs did.

Kikoluna

11-08-2015, 05:43 PM

Can I have mills and cory Joseph instead

100%duncan

11-08-2015, 06:26 PM

Rose sucks

Kawhitstorm

11-08-2015, 06:41 PM

Rose sucks

Porky blows

100%duncan

11-08-2015, 06:44 PM

Porky blows

I know but fuck Rose.

Kawhitstorm

11-08-2015, 06:45 PM

I know but fuck Rose.

Dude plays for the Bulls, he could suck all he wants.

SASdynasty!

11-08-2015, 07:06 PM

One's a regular-season MVP, one's a Finals MVP. Pretty much puts them above almost every other Spurs or Bulls player except for a couple.

Diego20

11-08-2015, 07:08 PM

One's a regular-season MVP, one's a Finals MVP. Pretty much puts them above almost every other Spurs or Bulls player except for a couple.

No, just no.

Kawhitstorm

11-08-2015, 07:26 PM

One's a regular-season MVP, one's a Finals MVP. Pretty much puts them above almost every other Spurs or Bulls player except for a couple.

You should be using PAST TENSES. Porker was FMVP almost a decade ago:lol

SASdynasty!

11-08-2015, 07:28 PM

You should be using PAST TENSES. Porker was FMVP almost a decade ago:lol
And Duncan even longer! Hahahaha!

SASdynasty!

11-08-2015, 07:32 PM

You should be using PAST TENSES. Porker was FMVP almost a decade ago:lol
And for the record, every FMVP is past-tense.

Kawhitstorm

11-08-2015, 07:36 PM

And for the record, every FMVP is past-tense.

There is such a thing as reigning champion

SASdynasty!

11-08-2015, 08:04 PM

There is such a thing as reigning champion
Yep, and it's no one on the Spurs.

Kawhitstorm

11-08-2015, 08:22 PM

Yep, and it's no one on the Spurs.

You are the one that brought up shyt that happened more than a season ago.

Yuixafun

11-09-2015, 09:06 AM

Mike Conley if anybody... A defensive distributor pg...

I remember reading an article where he has like a clock in his head about his guys and their touches, how to get his guys on fire and keep them invested and happy.

He doesn't care about scoring but will hit some shots and score if that's what's available.

Kawhitstorm

11-09-2015, 04:58 PM

HarlemHeat37

11-09-2015, 05:00 PM

Rose has been an atrocious player since the 2012 injury, tbh, but part of that is because he was drafted by his hometown..they are way too attached to him, the organization gives him way too much power on the court, they still treat him like he's a superstar..if he had been drafted elsewhere, there would have been a reality check, by now, IMO..

The Bulls essentially rely on Rose's terrible jump shot to win games:lol..when he's hot like he was vs. OKC the other night, they'll win vs. good teams, but when he isn't, which is most of the time, they won't be going anywhere..

TD 21

11-09-2015, 07:56 PM

Rose makes more and is a more damaging player, since he has a far bigger ego, far less basketball IQ and is significantly younger and not far removed (in terms of the amount of games he's played since) from an MVP season. He clearly still thinks he's that caliber of player and will continue to for the immediate future.