Andrew Wiggins

[TheCultOfPersonality]

My goodness the guy sucks.

[SuperCam]

He was pretty terrible last year too, tbh. Volume stats high usage, horrible shooting across the board with no playmaking at all but no one cared because the fucking timberwolves. And now he looks even worse :lol


King James saw how terrible he was and had him shipped out first chance he got :lmao :worthy:

[apalisoc_9]

It's tougher for him to get anything because Towns and the other bigs are all lane clogger. Not to mention this shitty organization are still playing Garnet and Prince extended minutes.

I've always said that he was overrated and was laughing my ass off with all the defensive hype he was getting last year, but he can't be blamed alone for his own offensive struggles.

It's hard to get any separation any sort of space playing with Prince and Garnet.

[DeRozan m8]

My goodness the guy sucks.


I'd have a crack at your av though, I really rate hot rangas

[Raven]

he'll be fine. I don't get why he's playing guard though.

[Kawhitstorm]

He's a post-up player being forced to score from the perimeter. He could be a decent slasher but his handles aren't that great.

[Raven]

He was pretty terrible last year too, tbh. Volume stats high usage, horrible shooting across the board with no playmaking at all but no one cared because the fucking timberwolves. And now he looks even worse :lol


King James saw how terrible he was and had him shipped out first chance he got :lmao :worthy:
yeah dat Love max contract is totally working out for them and they clearly are better off with dick jefferson:lol:lol:lol

[apalisoc_9]

He's a post-up player being forced to score from the perimeter. He could be a decent slasher but his handles aren't that great.

Also this..and when you add the personnel around him like Prince and Garnet..It gets even worse.

[-21-]

He's a post-up player being forced to score from the perimeter. He could be a decent slasher but his handles aren't that great.

Sounds a little bit like Kawhi when you put it like that. At least Pop knows how to develop/utilize talent correctly.

[Kawhitstorm]

Sounds a little bit like Kawhi when you put it like that. At least Pop knows how to develop/utilize talent correctly.

Except Wiggins has the shooting touch of Tony Allen:lol

[noob cake]

Low bball IQ, lack of alpha mentality, poor handles, and probably questionable work ethic.

Giant bust

[HarlemHeat37]

Very overrated, tbh..

Wolves are an embarrassment, though..starting Garnett and Prince in 2015 is fucking pathetic, and an organization that allows that should be contracted..

[313]

lol 2014 draft class

[TheCultOfPersonality]

No doubt that Tayshaun Prince and Kevin Garnett getting any playing time let alone starting is beyond moronic. Especially Prince. The guy has been a liability on both ends for quite some time.

Doesn't excuse Wiggins for being terrible beyond 5 feet from the basket, and not excelling in any other category.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

I'd have a crack at your av though, I really rate hot rangas
Love me some Leanna Decker.

[Mugen]

who's the redhead, Cult

[TheCultOfPersonality]

who's the redhead, Cult
Leanna Decker.

[apalisoc_9]

No doubt that Tayshaun Prince and Kevin Garnett getting any playing time let alone starting is beyond moronic. Especially Prince. The guy has been a liability on both ends for quite some time.

Doesn't excuse Wiggins for being terrible beyond 5 feet from the basket, and not excelling in any other category.

of course..like I said, I've always said he was overrated but having prince and Garnet out there just makes it worse for him to get any baskets.

[Mugen]

Leanna Decker.

brb.

[Kawhitstorm]

Leanna Decker.

Whose bitch dis is?

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Whose bitch dis is?
I think she's an adult model.

[Kawhitstorm]

I think she's an adult model.

A butterface IG model from Kentucky, YUCK!:donkey

[Buddy Mignon]

I told you this boy was a scrub.

[Kawhitstorm]

I told you this boy was a scrub.

Nobody asked you about D'Bust

[Seventyniner]

Very overrated, tbh..

Wolves are an embarrassment, though..starting Garnett and Prince in 2015 is fucking pathetic, and an organization that allows that should be contracted..

That's a very different approach to tanking than the Sixers are taking.

[Killakobe81]

He's a post-up player being forced to score from the perimeter. He could be a decent slasher but his handles aren't that great.

Dude is a more athletic less reliable shooting Harrison Barnes

[Kawhitstorm]

Dude is a more athletic less reliable shooting Harrison Barnes

Barnes isn't a good perimeter defender unlike Wiggins.

[xtremesteven33]

Wiggins is still very raw and has alot of potential. His improving defense alone is going to keep him in the league for a long time.

[Killakobe81]

Barnes isn't a good perimeter defender unlike Wiggins.

Barnes is not as good but solid on defense and should get credit his ability to play 4 when Draymond goes to center is a key to their small ball lineups. Although not as good on the perimeter he defends the post better than Wiggins

[Kawhitstorm]

Barnes is not as good but solid on defense and should get credit his ability to play 4 when Draymond goes to center is a key to their small ball lineups. Although not as good on the perimeter he defends the post better than Wiggins

Barnes is more like a poorman's Milsap, Wiggins is a poorman's Kawhi

[StrengthAndHonor]

It's Sam Mitchell

[spursistan]

He is going HAM on the Bulls as we speak :lol

[HemisfairArena]

Only idiots wrote this kid off early,,,

[noob cake]

Only idiots wrote this kid off early,,,

Only idiots think that this kid is good after an one game explosion

[SuperCam]

He's barely above 50% tbh, probably gonna finish below. A few of the threes he chucked going in doesn't make him good :lol

[HemisfairArena]

Only idiots think that this kid is good after an one game explosion

Youngster has had more than a one game explosion,,,,

[Raven]

he'll be fine. I don't get why he's playing guard though.

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[HarlemHeat37]

Only idiots wrote this kid off early,,,

I'm not writing him off..I'm a big fan of him as a person, and I'm actually friends with a few guys that are close and grew up with his older brother:lol..

His potential is evident, but I think he's definitely overrated right now..he currently has minimal impact on the game, can't shoot 3s, and he hasn't shown the elite defense that he was expected to bring..

To be fair, he's playing for a terrible franchise, currently being coached by the 2nd worst coach in the NBA IMO..a team with Sam Mitchell at coach + KG/Prince in the starting lineup is not going to help a young player elevate his game:lol..

Wolves should trade Lavine to anybody that would take him, though..he's absolutely garbage..

[HemisfairArena]

I'm not writing him off..I'm a big fan of him as a person, and I'm actually friends with a few guys that are close and grew up with his older brother:lol..

His potential is evident, but I think he's definitely overrated right now..he currently has minimal impact on the game, can't shoot 3s, and he hasn't shown the elite defense that he was expected to bring..

To be fair, he's playing for a terrible franchise, currently being coached by the 2nd worst coach in the NBA IMO..a team with Sam Mitchell at coach + KG/Prince in the starting lineup is not going to help a young player elevate his game:lol..

Wolves should trade Lavine to anybody that would take him, though..he's absolutely garbage..

Agreed,,,,great post,,,I overrate him knowing the talent he has,,,its still a question mark if he can tap into and be a badass in the NBA,,,

[HarlemHeat37]

Had the chance for the game winner with a PF guarding him..takes a fadeaway 20-foot jump shot..smh..

Crazy athletic, take that shit inside..

[HarlemHeat37]

Finally has his first good game of the season, hopefully he builds on it..he completely dominated Jimmy Butler from start to finish, on both ends, tbh..

[TheCultOfPersonality]

It's just stunning that Wiggins came into this season with absolutely no improvement to his raw game, but this was the best game of the season for him.

[HemisfairArena]

Its only 6 games in and remember this kid is only 20,,,the sky is the limit,,,and as Harlem said, he plays for a pathetic franchise and how many times have we seen that ruin a great talent?

[Kawhitstorm]

Finally has his first good game of the season, hopefully he builds on it..he completely dominated Jimmy Butler from start to finish, on both ends, tbh..

It seems like he only gets up for the big boys somewhat like Kawhi. I remember last season him have his best games against LeBron & Kawhi. Today he took it to Jimmy...

[JohnnyMax]

Jimmy owned him last year. It was his most difficult matchup.

[Kool Bob Love]

Low bball IQ, lack of alpha mentality, poor handles, and probably questionable work ethic.

Giant bust

Canadians eh?

[Shane27]

Only idiots think that this kid is good after an one game explosion

"an one" sounds so dumb, but I guess it is technically correct. Fuck the English language.

[Kawhitstorm]

http://ballislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/wiggins.jpg

[Raven]

well. he woke up.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol thinking Cavs got the better deal...

[BD24]

Wiggins and the pups looking good so far :toast

[Stevie Johnson]

HarlemHeat37 with shitful take after shitful take. He's probably mad that his steroid cheating self could never amount to balling out like Wiggins.

[HarlemHeat37]

HarlemHeat37 with shitful take after shitful take. He's probably mad that his steroid cheating self could never amount to balling out like Wiggins.

:lol I like Wiggins..he's still overrated, though..

[RsxPiimp]

He just lacks aggression and he seems pretty happy playing second fiddle even when he was in Kansas which is why he'll probably won't live up to his #1 pick expectation. Things could change but I don't see him exceeding projections. 23/6/5 career with solid defense is probably his ceiling which is nothing to sneeze at but he won't reach Durant/Lebron status

[sook]

needs to goto a team where he can chuck away.

[Killakobe81]

He has been very good the past two games ...I may have underrated him a bit ...but overall i agree with Harlem ...he is overrated.

[100%duncan]

He just lacks aggression and he seems pretty happy playing second fiddle even when he was in Kansas which is why he'll probably won't live up to his #1 pick expectation. Things could change but I don't see him exceeding projections. 23/6/5 career with solid defense is probably his ceiling which is nothing to sneeze at but he won't reach Durant/Lebron status

That's a very good statline tbh.

Wiggins still not gonna be that nigga, he shoots long 2's most of the time right

[JohnnyMax]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/scoring-per-game/sort/avgPoints/year/2016/seasontype/2

He's 10th in the league in scoring.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Looks like my thread motivated him.

[spursistan]

2 games against us in a space of week..nothing really special about this kid..just too inefficient with suspect BB IQ ..his D is the probably most overrated thing about high prospect in the last few years..he doesn't have neither the the shooting stroke nor the handling to thrive from the perimeter..he is still young though, a coaching change in Minny and some dead wood cutting in that roster may help him in the future..

[spursistan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy8w0VmVQAAaC0p.jpg

As I have said in another thread, his career is mirroring Gay/Derozan so far..He is actually been a shittier defender :lol..

[Kawhitstorm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy8w0VmVQAAaC0p.jpg

As I have said in another thread, his career is mirroring Gay/Derozan so far..He is actually been a shittier defender :lol..

The Wolves wouldn't be blowing all those leads if Wiggins had an alpha mentality like Rudy, tbh:

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[spursistan]

this nigga fouled Kyle with 20 sec left so his overrated ass could statpad in 16 points game :lol..

GM Lebron TBH :lol

[DMC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy8w0VmVQAAaC0p.jpg

As I have said in another thread, his career is mirroring Gay/Derozan so far..He is actually been a shittier defender :lol..

Derozan is averaging like 28ppg. Elite scorer.

[spursistan]

The Wolves wouldn't be blowing all those leads if Wiggins had an alpha mentality like Rudy, tbh:

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Honestly, out of the Wolves "Big 3" members, LaVine seems be the one who has more of the "it" factor, which is bad news for them..

That was also a terrible mental game by KAT who hasn't made any kind of leap so far in his sophomore year..

[Raven]

that was some sad stuff.. if tibs has balls he should start him in the next game and sub him out for the day after 5 secs.

[spursistan]

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[apalisoc_9]

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Wow...:lol

Thats bad. Is it effort?

[JohnnyMax]

He doesn't belong on this team . He's a sub par defender . Brings nothing to the team but ISO scoring . He's Playing hero ball . Look at last night . Lavine was hot . 3rd qrt Wiggins shots the team into a grave missing like 6 in a row . Lavine doesn't get a shot all qrt . Wiggins at this point isn't better than Lavine .

Wiggins is the broken part of the team . If he doesn't go 60% from field he shots them into grave .

Lavine is the most consistent player on this team shooting around 48 % from the field with efg on the team .

Wiggins can't do anything better than Lavine at this point but rebound . Lavine is becoming a better all arpund player and his offense is better for the team to score . With the motion and pick and pop play he provides . The ISO days are over for Wiggins . He's gots to go !
It's changing of the guard and exposing the weak . Lavine is now better than wig .
But wig still thinks he's number one . Guy can't create for anyone but himself .

[Raven]

He doesn't belong on this team . He's a sub par defender . Brings nothing to the team but ISO scoring . He's Playing hero ball . Look at last night . Lavine was hot . 3rd qrt Wiggins shots the team into a grave missing like 6 in a row . Lavine doesn't get a shot all qrt . Wiggins at this point isn't better than Lavine .

Wiggins is the broken part of the team . If he doesn't go 60% from field he shots them into grave .

Lavine is the most consistent player on this team shooting around 48 % from the field with efg on the team .

Wiggins can't do anything better than Lavine at this point but rebound . Lavine is becoming a better all arpund player and his offense is better for the team to score . With the motion and pick and pop play he provides . The ISO days are over for Wiggins . He's gots to go !
It's changing of the guard and exposing the weak . Lavine is now better than wig .
But wig still thinks he's number one . Guy can't create for anyone but himself .

they don't play the same role, lavine is a pg/sg while wiggins is a sg/sf. plus, it's not like they have much of a choice. another high lottery pick will do them good, they need to find another defender.

[RsxPiimp]

they don't play the same role, lavine is a pg/sg while wiggins is a sg/sf. plus, it's not like they have much of a choice. another high lottery pick will do them good, they need to find another defender.

:lmao how many more high lottery draft picks do they need

[Canyonero]

I remember him sharing Canada's team with some dude named Scrubb :lol

[Kawhitstorm]

806923938399944704

Poor-man's DeFrozen.:rollin

[JoeTait75]

Got to wonder what kind of arc Wiggins's career would have had he stayed in Cleveland. Playing with LeBron and Kyrie he wouldn't have been asked to be a primary scorer. I'd imagine that he would have been taught to be a defender first to give LeBron a break at that end of the floor. His offense would have come in time.

Where you go to start your career can be so important. You can develop bad habits playing for a bad team. Kyrie was in the same situation at the start of his career. Would Kawhi Leonard be the same caliber of player he is now had he been drafted by Minnesota as opposed to the Spurs? Probably not.

[Kawhitstorm]

Where you go to start your career can be so important. You can develop bad habits playing for a bad team. Kyrie was in the same situation at the start of his career. Would Kawhi Leonard be the same caliber of player he is now had he been drafted by Minnesota as opposed to the Spurs? Probably not.

Kawhi had a similar career trajectory as Paul George & Jimmy Butler who weren't drafted by the overrated Spurs' front-office.:wakeup

[140]

:wakeup

[Ghazi]

:wakeup

[Joseph Kony]

:lol billed as a defender whose offense would develop but plays no defense and is an iso chucker

[whitemamba]

regret picking him up so bad on my fantasy. fucking canada.

[313]

I called it. Me.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237509&highlight=Hype+Wiggins (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237509&page=2&highlight=Hype+Wiggins)

[spursistan]

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[apalisoc_9]

I'm not going to go on Wiggins for not rebouunding. It's pretty clear form watching the games that team wants to give the bigs that responsibility...So you find him mostly away from the basket in the perimter.

His problem is that, teams dont respect enough. His scoring doesnt break the defense. He doesnt get enough respect that opens up opportunities for his team.

[100%duncan]

I'm not going to go on Wiggins for not rebouunding. It's pretty clear form watching the games that team wants to give the bigs that responsibility...So you find him mostly away from the basket in the perimter.

His problem is that, teams dont respect enough. His scoring doesnt break the defense. He doesnt get enough respect that opens up opportunities for his team.

Worse than lack of respect imho, they( opponents) really want him to shoot or have a high usage :lol

[Raven]

I'm not going to go on Wiggins for not rebouunding. It's pretty clear form watching the games that team wants to give the bigs that responsibility...So you find him mostly away from the basket in the perimter.

His problem is that, teams dont respect enough. His scoring doesnt break the defense. He doesnt get enough respect that opens up opportunities for his team.

his problem is that him and lavine have awful shot selection. the difference from our spurs is so staggering you facepalm through the whole game. they do have the tools.

[DMC]

This is what happens when top talent gets poor development and when the hired help has more control over their role than the boss does.

[spursistan]

Maybe because we aren't paying attention to their games, but this nigga is a straight lazy bum ass even on Thibs watch :lol...

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[SAGirl]

^^ I don't watch the Wolves at all other than their matches with the Spurs. Thanks for sharing that.... wow seems straight up lazy...

[Raven]

^^ I don't watch the Wolves at all other than their matches with the Spurs. Thanks for sharing that.... wow seems straight up lazy...

I can confirm, it happens a lot even in games where his shooting is good. He just takes plays off but doesn't get benched for it.

[spursistan]

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[spursistan]

Even the highlights dude isn't impressed with his empty 40-point game..:lol

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[140]

:lol

[140]

DTB is the best highlight channel anyways tbh

[apalisoc_9]

Wiggins is so lazy its unreal..

[TheCultOfPersonality]

1 rebound and 2 assist. Other than the 41 points basically just another day at the office for Wiggins.

[Kawhitstorm]

Even the highlights dude isn't impressed with his empty 40-point game..:lol

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Even Rudy Gay laughed.:lol

[dfens]

another low skill low iq monkey getting exposed tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

that whole team... = bunch of draft busts posting up empty stats...

[lefty]

:worthy: GM LeBron