spurs go on a 36-6 run starting ath the 7 minute mark of the third

[apalisoc_9]

What happend?

[GB20]

What happend?
Parker got benched

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol that's cold, bro..

[vander]

the ignore feature isn't strong enough tbh, it should completely hide the threads and posts

[hater]

Parker is having a strong season so far. this game was a fluke tbh

[RD2191]

Parker is having a strong season so far. this game was a fluke tbh

:lol

[Kuvai]

We will go as far as MVParker gets benched....

[UNT Eagles 2016]

We will go as far as MVParker gets benched....
Typical MVParker, showing up only against good teams and playing lazy and slow against shitty teams from the least and bottom of the west. Parker will be fine going forward if he stays healthy

[HarlemHeat37]

Typical MVParker, showing up only against good teams and playing lazy and slow against shitty teams from the least and bottom of the west. Parker will be fine going forward if he stays healthy

The Spurs have only played against 1 good team, so far..

[Cry Havoc]

Typical MVParker, showing up only against good teams and playing lazy and slow against shitty teams from the least and bottom of the west. Parker will be fine going forward if he stays healthy

:lmao just close the thread.

[apalisoc_9]

Oh parker got benched? I would have never guessed

[UNT Eagles 2016]

The Spurs have only played against 1 good team, so far..
yeah, and we would have won that if we hadn't have committed 20 turnovers, over half of them unforced and almost all of them live-ball. The Beal GW was the icing on the cake

[HarlemHeat37]

yeah, and we would have won that if we hadn't have committed 20 turnovers, over half of them unforced and almost all of them live-ball. The Beal GW was the icing on the cake

Wizards aren't a good team:lol..they're average, at best..

[Hoops Czar]

The Spurs have only played against 1 good team, so far..

Boston and supposedly Washington (by seasons end) are above average teams. Not sure what you're definition of good is.

[spursgu]

Parker was absolutely terrible. Can't even defend that game.

[HarlemHeat37]

Boston and supposedly Washington (by seasons end) are above average teams. Not sure what you're definition of good is.

They are both average teams, 7 or 8 seeds in the East(if they even make the playoffs)..Celtics won 40 games, last year, and didn't make any significant moves(although adding David Lee is probably a net negative)..

Wizards lost Pierce, didn't add anybody significant, and Gortat/Nene look like they can't move anymore.

[midnightpulp]

Great win. Looked like they were in for a gutless worm performance when the Hornets went up 6 in the 3rd and they just turned it on into overdrive. We could easily be undefeated if not for some shaky crunch time play, which will iron itself out as this team's chemistry builds.

Parker getting burnt by athletic PGs remains a concern, though.

[cjw]

I'm as even keeled as anyone when it comes to this civil war, but Parker was getting torched by Kemba. Kemba got gassed and Manu/Kawhi took over. At least Parker's not Jeremy Lin (-37).

Lin must have mirrored Diaw, Manu and Patty's minutes.



Wizards lost Pierce, didn't add anybody, and Gortat/Nene look like they can't move anymore..

Just because they didn't add anybody doesn't mean they can't be as good if not better than last year. Wall / Beal / Porter (25 / 22 / 22) all should take a significant step forward this year. Beal is shooting like Steph right now.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Wizards aren't a good team:lol..they're average, at best..
then who is?

obviously not OKC, they suck, they would be 2–4 if not for a buttload of lucky shots at the end of that one road game

[Kawhi 5-0]

I started watching right about this point in the game. Spurs looked great! I believe Parker had six assists. Not bad! He made a nice play on a break to get the ball to change sides of the court (to Leonard for a 2pt FG). The big run was a team effort. Manu and Patty were on fire. West was probably player of the game--a very Boris Diaw stat line for DW. Great win Spurs!!!

[Perry Mason]

All the new nonsense aside, the key is that the whole starting unit needs to develop chemistry and habits to run the offense from the post. It has relied on TP penetration for 5 years.

Danny has never played in any other Spurs offense, nor Kawhi.

The reason the offense tanks is because it never had great spacing to begin with, rather it relied on elite speed and finishing of TP. Those guys don't know yet how to play well using an inside out game.

Yes, TP "sucks" in that he too needs to work on not doing half ass probing moves, as those go nowhere. Instead, he should work to feed the post in creative ways and make cuts to give options and force the defense to make decisions. And then occasionally he can go hard in the paint.

But the other guys "suck" too because they aren't moving enough to get position and hesitate on open shots. This is why when Tony sits and Manu is in, the Spurs are better on O. The team can still play the beautiful game with him. But those guys need to learn new roles now with a reduced TP.

When clicking, the inside out game is simple. Take quick shots when you have an opening. It won't be the beautiful game, but it's effective and with cuts and chemistry it can open up the long ball and ball movement.

it could be great. The starters come in and play tough D and a grindy offense, with transition points from stops, and the second unit comes in and plays the 2014 game. Hope Pop figures it out, and hope that the players develop the right instincts to play an inside out game at the highest level.

[dabom]

Porker was done last year. Nothing new.

[Hoops Czar]

They are both average teams, 7 or 8 seeds in the East(if they even make the playoffs)..Celtics won 40 games, last year, and didn't make any significant moves(although adding David Lee is probably a net negative)..

Wizards lost Pierce, didn't add anybody significant, and Gortat/Nene look like they can't move anymore.

But, both those teams are very capable of beating any team in their building. It would have been a pair of quality wins had the Spurs not blow another 4th quarter lead in Washington.

[Mr. Body]

All the new nonsense aside, the key is that the whole starting unit needs to develop chemistry and habits to run the offense from the post. It has relied on TP penetration for 5 years.

Danny has never played in any other Spurs offense, nor Kawhi.

The reason the offense tanks is because it never had great spacing to begin with, rather it relied on elite speed and finishing of TP. Those guys don't know yet how to play well using an inside out game.

Yes, TP "sucks" in that he too needs to work on not doing half ass probing moves, as those go nowhere. Instead, he should work to feed the post in creative ways and make cuts to give options and force the defense to make decisions. And then occasionally he can go hard in the paint.

But the other guys "suck" too because they aren't moving enough to get position and hesitate on open shots. This is why when Tony sits and Manu is in, the Spurs are better on O. The team can still play the beautiful game with him. But those guys need to learn new roles now with a reduced TP.

When clicking, the inside out game is simple. Take quick shots when you have an opening. It won't be the beautiful game, but it's effective and with cuts and chemistry it can open up the long ball and ball movement.

it could be great. The starters come in and play tough D and a grindy offense, with transition points from stops, and the second unit comes in and plays the 2014 game. Hope Pop figures it out, and hope that the players develop the right instincts to play an inside out game at the highest level.

I was wondering over the summer if the so,it ion was to bring either Aldridge or Duncan off the bench, but obviously that will never happen. It may amount to just Aldridge learning to make his moves faster and read when to move it instead. Could be potentially lethal but not yet.

[KaiRMD1]

Spurs started hitting threes

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Bottom line... this one wasn't about Parker vs. Leonard; this was about the bench foreign legion tonight. Manu of course the catalyst as per par. GSG!

[TheDoctor]

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[apalisoc_9]

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Wow..what was diferent in the third? Lineup change?

[TXstbobcat]

Bottom line... this one wasn't about Parker vs. Leonard; this was about the bench foreign legion tonight. Manu of course the catalyst as per par. GSG!

Manu and Mills making it rain with the 3333333's

[K...]

Wow..what was diferent in the third? Lineup change?

So you didn't watch the game,?

[HI-FI]

Parker is having a strong season so far. this game was a fluke tbh
:lol
never change.

[sasaint]

I was wondering over the summer if the so,it ion was to bring either Aldridge or Duncan off the bench, but obviously that will never happen. It may amount to just Aldridge learning to make his moves faster and read when to move it instead. Could be potentially lethal but not yet.

I think this is the ultimate solution. I expected to see quite a bit of high-low game between TD and LMA, but we have seen none. They both cannot play low on the left side of the lane...

[Mikeanaro]

Porker ate bench and Manu and his krew shined thats what happened.

[Spurs9]

Great run, was at the game tbh

[ceperez]

The first team just doesn't have spacing and can't seem to create separation from even mediocre teams.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

Portland managed to create consistently one of the best offenses in the league with LMA in the post and getting space through that. Kawhi on top of that should simply be a great a thing but of course the real problem is what someone like Lillard is capable of vs all the shortcomings of Parker.

[Kawhitstorm]

Portland managed to create consistently one of the best offenses in the league with LMA in the post and getting space through that. Kawhi on top of that should simply be a great a thing but of course the real problem is what someone like Lillard is capable of vs all the shortcomings of Parker.

Patty is a mini-version of Lillard

[spursistan]

Portland managed to create consistently one of the best offenses in the league with LMA in the post and getting space through that. Kawhi on top of that should simply be a great a thing but of course the real problem is what someone like Lillard is capable of vs all the shortcomings of Parker.
yep..no real title contender has a business starting a PG in Parker current shape unless you have peak Lebron to cover you (Chalmers)...Kawhi isn't that good..the only hope is Pop's leash at this point barbecue Tony name/ego is just too big to be benched...

[Bender]

The first team just doesn't have spacing and can't seem to create separation from even mediocre teams.
I hate watching the starters, they stink so far. they get in big holes, and the 2nd unit bails the team out.

and Green can't hit the ocean now.

[ChumpDumper]

15-2 Spurs run when the Hornets ran Lin and Walker together in the backcourt before Walker was taken out. Walker didn't come back in for about 6:30 in game time and by then they were down by 22.

[DarrinS]

15-2 Spurs run when the Hornets ran Lin and Walker together in the backcourt before Walker was taken out. Walker didn't come back in for about 6:30 in game time and by then they were down by 22.

That helped. Also helped that we had a good floor general on the court.

[SpurSwag]

What happend?

Dude i'm sorry, but you're a fuckin bitch honestly. It's one thing to not like a player, its another thing to completely obsess about your disdain for that player and to post thread after thread bashing someone. Do you think it's new information to anyone on here that Tony has fallen off? No. But we dont' fuckin bash him every waking second of our lives like you do because a) he has done great things for this franchise and is still trying his best to do so (while becoming far more of a team player and leader in the process) and b) because he is a spur, as spurs fans, we should root for our starting PG to play well and to help lead us to a championship.

By constantly bitching about him, it's pretty obvious to me that you aren't a Spurs fan in the slightest, and rather just some dude who jerks off to Kawhi every second you get. Just enjoy the fucking team for what it is man, if we lose at the end of the year and it's clearly Tony's fault then sure, some bitching is allowed. But Tony wasn't the reason we lost last year, and so far he hasn't been the reason we've lost any games this year.

[ChumpDumper]

That helped. Also helped that we had a good floor general on the court.Nobody mentioned the opposing lineup at all.

Not once.

Some real pro analysts here.

[SpurSwag]

Posters like OP and the many other "player fans" have destroyed this site tbh it's literally impossible to talk basketball anymore. I joined this site initially cuz I love the spurs and I love talking basketball. That has almost become impossible thanks to this bitch of an OP and all the other player threads turning every spurs game into "notice how much the lead has grown without Tony.." "notice Kawhi only has 1 assist..." etc.

[Spurtacular]

Parker is down to 27 mpg, 8.8 fga on 52.8 FGA. That's reasonable to non player fans.

[dweaver99027]

Scoring 5 straight threes is not sustainable and any opponent would wilt under such barrage at that point in the game. What I liked was the ball movement the team showed when it was obvious that they were brimming with confidence after the run. Just like Tim said, when they're not overthinking the offense works, shots going in or not.

[Blue Duck]

I'm not a fan of the player bashing either, in fact I always said that Bonner got allot more than he deserved, but very few ran to his defense. That said, I think it's still possible to have the basketball discussions y'all crave while also discussing the game to game flaws and deficiencies of even our most beloved players, as well as their positive contributions. I have a parker jersey, hanging next to my duncan and ginobili, my kid likes to throw on the Kawhi when we go to the games. But, last year's playoff loss had allot to do with parkers performance and that should be obvious to all of us. I'm still rooting for him and the team, but we can have these discussions objectively, I think. P.s. manu is my favorite, but yeah, I realize he occasionally turns into "turnobili", it's just the truth, but I love the guy cuz no one has his heart, except maybe for patty, just sayin.........objectivity. GO SPURS

[SAGirl]

Nobody mentioned the opposing lineup at all.

Not once.

Some real pro analysts here.
Spencer Hawes was terrible for them. Had TO of his own and low BBIQ plays. Other than Lin trying to make stuff happen in that stretch, they had nothing, and Lin was guilty of leaving Patty unconvered for 3 pt shots. Their second unit was atrocious truth be told.

That said, it coincided with a barrage of 3s from Manu and Patty.

Moral of the story, you can't count on a barrage of 3s to win a game. Sure it will happen occasionally, but when it doesn't you are in trouble and in close game situations that could go either way like the Knicks (until Porzingis got hurt), the Celtics, and the Wiz.

Still it was good to see Lamarcus hit some shots and had some offense run through him in a short stretch and he did very well. There were some encouraging signs from everyone, but Tony. I am not a Tony hater, but he missed Lamarcus on mismatches and called his own number twice on the 3rd Q, when Kaminsky was on Anderson in transition, and Lamarcus was guarded by a SF. That should not happen. One of those times, he drew a foul, but the other one was a TO on a moving screen by TD. It is things like that which make me angry at Tony. He doesn't run the offense for others as much as he should, even at this point.

[DarrinS]

17 assists between Manu, Diaw, Mills, and West. That second unit is going to be fun to watch.

That unit is the key to blowing teams out, tbh.

[lefty]

:lol Porker cocksuckers hiding

[SASdynasty!]

Mills & Manu outplayed another bench! Wahoo!!

[YGWHI]

There were some encouraging signs from everyone, but Tony. I am not a Tony hater, but he missed Lamarcus on mismatches and called his own number twice on the 3rd Q, when Kaminsky was on Anderson in transition, and Lamarcus was guarded by a SF. That should not happen. One of those times, he drew a foul, but the other one was a TO on a moving screen by TD. It is things like that which make me angry at Tony. He doesn't run the offense for others as much as he should, even at this point.

After the game against Wizards I said Parker opted to make plays for himself and lost the ball, when LMA was guarded by a scrub like Dudley several minutes in the second half, and the same shit with Beal on Kawhi.

And he didn't exploit huge mismatches against the Hornets, again.

It's hard to believe that a coach doesn't show his starting point guard in the film sessions, all the mismatches he ignored...

It's interesting, Parker said it's LMA and Kawhi team now but they were getting better looks with him off the court.
Pop wants LMA to get involved at Duncan prime level so Parker will play a lot more of pick and rolls with him but there is still the problematic dynamic between him and Kawhi on the court.

Kawhi gets more opportunites to create for himself and his teammates when Parker's off the court.
In the last game he didn't get the ball until the last 3 minutes of the first quarter, against the Wizards he made one shot early in the 4th quarter and then he didn't touch the ball until the last seconds of the game.
After four seasons Parker couldn't build chemistry with Kawhi on the court, a bad sign if Kawhi is supposedly the future of the franchise and Parker is the starting point guard for the next three seasons or more.

Parker's going to need to re-invent himself and that's not easy.
He's a scoring point guard not a true playmaker, at this point of his career he doesn't have all the tools necesary to fill his new role.

[ChumpDumper]

In the last game he didn't get the ball until the last 3 minutes of the first quarterlol completely false.

[YGWHI]

lol completely false.

Of course...it's just ChumpDumb

[ChumpDumper]

Of course...ChumpDumbOf course it's completely false -- you don't even have to look at the game tape to know you're wrong.

[YGWHI]

To be more specific, he didn't shot the ball until 3:38 remaining on the clock in the first quarter.

[ChumpDumper]

To be more specific, he didn't shot the ball until 3:38 remaining on the clock in the first quarter.lol which game log are you getting this from?

Link it up.

[YGWHI]

Link it up... :lol

It will snow in hell before I'm gonna do something what ChumpDumb wants.

[ChumpDumper]

Link it up... :lol

It will snow in hell before I'm gonna do something what ChumpDumb wants.So you know you're wrong.

lol

No problem.

Why would you like about something so easily proved wrong?

[Clipper Nation]

Mills & Manu outplayed another bench! Wahoo!!

Porker can't outplay his own backups when it counts! Wahoo!!

[YGWHI]

Deflection ChumpDumb's posts.

Someone says Tony isn't a true playmaker or have chemistry issues with Kawhi on the court, and Chump immediately becomes defensive...I wonder why.

[ChumpDumper]

Deflection ChumpDumb's posts.

Someone says Tony isn't a true playmaker or have chemistry issues with Kawhi on the court, and Chump immediately becomes defensive...I wonder why.Actually I just said you were completely wrong on a matter of fact regarding Kawhi's shooting.

Don't get so pissy about it.

[apalisoc_9]

Deflection ChumpDumb's posts.

Someone says Tony isn't a true playmaker or have chemistry issues with Kawhi on the court, and Chump immediately becomes defensive...I wonder why.

Clipprernation told me chump got cucked in real life. Not surprised why he acts so defensive. According to clippernation, hes been cheated on 5 times

[ChumpDumper]

Clipprernation told me chump got cucked in real life. Not surprised why he acts so defensive. According to clippernation, hes been cheated on 5 timesCupper Nation knows nothing about me but it's no surprise that you have to resort to this when I am simply talking about matters of fact.

Your having to hide behind other posters is completely pathetic.

[YGWHI]

Actually I just said you were completely wrong on a matter of fact regarding Kawhi's shooting.

So..I was wrong about the 4th quarter of the game in Washington?

I guess I wasn't completely wrong about Kawhi taking a shot remaining 3 minutes in the 1st quarter last game, he didn't get the ball before except for a corner three...

The obsession of some guys wanting to limit Kawhi role on offense to a spot up three point shooter parking in the corner...smh.

[ChumpDumper]

I guess I wasn't completely wrong about Kawhi taking a shot remaining 3 minutes in the 1st quarter last game, he didn't get the ball before except for a corner three...That makes you completely wrong.

Completely.

[YGWHI]

Obviously not.

[ChumpDumper]

Obviously not.Obviously.

This is a simple matter of fact. You are either right or wrong.

There is no shade of right here.

You were completely wrong. You can't spin it, but it's hilarious to watch you try.

[YGWHI]

Obviously.

This is a simple matter of fact. You are either right or wrong.

There is no shade of right here.

You were completely wrong.

If someone is right or wrong, that's all...why someone is completely wrong and other is not completely wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

If someone is right or wrong, that's all...why someone is completely wrong and other is not completely wrong.On this simple matter of fact, you are completely wrong. There is no degree of rightness to be declared, so your wrongness here is complete.

You're getting hung up on being completely wrong.

Tough.

Don't be completely wrong on a simple matter of fact next time.

[YGWHI]

On this simple matter of fact, you are completely wrong. There is no degree of rightness to be declared, so your wrongness here is complete.

You didn't answer my question. I asked why "someone" is completely wrong and other is not completey wrong if you says a person is just right or wrong.

[YGWHI]

People, actions, can be more than just right or wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

You didn't answer my question. I asked why "someone" is completely wrong and other is not completey wrong if you says a person is just right or wrong.You can be wrong and completely wrong.

Which you are.

[ChumpDumper]

People, actions, can be more than just right or wrong.We're not talking about that. We're talking about the simple matter of fact you got completely wrong.

And wrong.

Completely.

Now you're going to keep whining about being completely wrong about a simple matter of fact thinking if you whine enough it will somehow make you look less wrong.

lol

[YGWHI]

You can be wrong and completely wrong.

But we hear way too often "he isn't completely wrong after all"...

It means people can be wrong, completely wrong, and not completely wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

But we hear way too often "he isn't completely wrong after all"...

It means people can be wrong, completely wrong, and not completely wrong.You were completely wrong on this simple matter of fact.

You can't change that.

[YGWHI]

You were completely wrong on this simple matter of fact.

You can't change that.

Do you think I want to change something here? I have legit questions that you didn't answer.

[YGWHI]

We're not talking about that.

Why not? We can talk about whatever we want.

I want to talk about why Parker doesn't recognize mismatches, you want to talk about I'm wrong.

Well...Why I'm wrong about Parker?

He passed the ball to LMA when he was guarded by Dudley? We have a deadly frontcourt to play small ball so why LMA didn't get the ball with that lineup?

If Pop said he wants to post Kawhi more and more, why he didn't get the ball in the post when Beal was on him there? Beal on Kawhi isn't a favorable mismatch for the Spurs?

I just want to know why.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you think I want to change something here? I have legit questions that you didn't answer.Of course you want to change the fact you were completely wrong on a simple matter of fact. You will do your damndest to distract from that. -- but it won't change that you were completely wrong on a simple matter of fact.


Why not? We can talk about whatever we want.

I want to talk about why Parker doesn't recognize mismatches, you want to talk about I'm wrong.

Well...Why I'm wrong about Parker?

He passed the ball to LMA when he was guarded by Dudley? We have a deadly frontcourt to play small ball so why LMA didn't get the ball with that lineup?

If Pop said he wants to post Kawhi more and more, why he didn't get the ball in the post when Beal was on him there? Beal on Kawhi isn't a favorable mismatch for the Spurs?

I just want to know why.Told ya.

lol losing your shit over a simple matter of fact you got completely wrong.

Just don't be so wrong next time -- is that so difficult for you to accept?

[YGWHI]

Of course you want to change the fact you were completely wrong on a simple matter of fact. You will do your damndest to distract from that.

I don't want to distract from nothing. My original post was about Parker's lack of ability to identify mismatches and still talking about it.

But it seems like you're a bit reluctant to talk about that. I wonder why...



losing your shit over a simple matter of fact you got completely wrong.


Don't get this...tbh.
You said if I was wrong on Kawhi numbers of shots in the first quarter of last game, then Parker ignoring LMA/Kawhi mismatches in the last two games...never happened?

I can't see how those facts are related...or they're related in ChumpDumb unambiguous way?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't want to distract from nothing. My original post was about Parker's lack of ability to identify mismatches and still talking about it.

But it seems like you're a bit reluctant to talk about that. I wonder why...I just brought up how completely wrong you were on a simple matter of fact. All you had to do was accept it and move on. Yet, here you are, still butthurt about it.




Don't get this...you said if I was wrong on Kawhi numbers of shots in the first quarter of last game, then Parker ignoring LMA/Kawhi mismatches in the last two games never happened?

I can't see how those facts are related...or they're related in ChumpDumb unambiguous way?You got one simple fact completely wrong.

You are still losing your shit over it.

Quit losing your shit over it. It wasn't a big deal until you made it a big deal.

Do you understand this?

[YGWHI]

You got one simple fact completely wrong.
So...I wasn't wrong about Parker didn't exploit mismatches or what?


Do you understand this?
NO. That's why I ask the same question over and over until I get a reasonable answer.

[spurraider21]

as long as he maintains his a fg% higher than 45

[SAGirl]

Parker's going to need to re-invent himself and that's not easy. He's a scoring point guard not a true playmaker, at this point of his career he doesn't have all the tools necesary to fill his new role.

I agree with you. Behind closed doors, he probably genuinely wants to reinvent himself, otherwise, hypocrisy would not fly with this group. He's just not able to so far. He has done something for so long in his career, that to now operate in a completely different state of mind is really a challenge. He misses things, call them opportunities. I do think he sees every opportunity for himself because that is his talent. He's now learning that the things he sees for himself don't always turn out like they used to, since he's lost speed, but that is beside the point. The point is that he now has to train himself to spot every opportunity available for others: every mismatch, every cut. That is not something he does naturally and we are in a jam at this point because we do need him to take care of the basketball. I would expect Pop to indeed clear the air in film session and hold him accountable.

[Gutter92]

ITT: People arguing semantics...smh

[MaNu4Tres]

They are both average teams, 7 or 8 seeds in the East(if they even make the playoffs)..Celtics won 40 games, last year, and didn't make any significant moves(although adding David Lee is probably a net negative)..

Wizards lost Pierce, didn't add anybody significant, and Gortat/Nene look like they can't move anymore.

Wizards improved by internal improvement w/ Beal & Porter. Plus, getting rid of Pierce's minutes and giving more minutes to Porter is +EV on both ends, especially on defense.

[ChumpDumper]

So...I wasn't wrong about Parker didn't exploit mismatches or what?That's a matter of opinion.



NO. That's why I ask the same question over and over until I get a reasonable answer.So you just want to hear something that will comfort you in your time of of being completely wrong.

I can't understand things for you. It's possible you are just incapable of understanding something so simple. You certainly couldn't get a simple fact right.

[YGWHI]

It's possible you are just incapable of understanding something so simple.

Starting to feel a bit misunderstood...

[ChumpDumper]

Starting to feel a bit misunderstood... it's not my problem that you can't understand a simple concept. Good luck.

[YGWHI]

it's not my problem that you can't understand a simple concept.
Why not? You try to simplify a concept, which is not that simple. Sorry, but not everyone have to share your perceptions or your view.

[ChumpDumper]

Why not? You try to simplify a concept, which is not that simple. Sorry, but not everyone have to share your perceptions or your view.Of course not. There is no requirement for you to be intelligent or to understand anyrhing.

[jyra]

PopcornMachine's game flows are a nice tool to look at runs like these:

http://www.popcornmachine.net/gf?date=20151107&game=CHASAS

The Hornets bench unit was just atrocious.